Brian Pics 72-74

[C.Miller]

Hey guys,

This is my first topic here, but I've been lurking for a good while. I have a lot of interest in Brian during the years 1972-75. It find it interesting how much his musical sensibilities and voice changed. His appearance during this time also interests me. However, I've only found a handful of photos of this period (most of them from 72), so if anyone could post any they have, I would very much appreciate it.

I'd like to eventually make a photo montage of this period, if I do manage to do that I'll be sure to share it with you all.

Thanks!

[MBE]

Here are a number of them. The two where Brian is heavy and wearing a white shirt is summer 1975. The one where he is wearing a red shirt is spring 75. The Mickey Mouse shirt photo is from early 1972 (he hadn't put on weight yet). The one where he has long hair and a suede jacket is from summer 72. The one where he is drumming is from early 1973.

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He did change a lot and to me never seemed the same again. As late as fall of 1974 he still sounded the same as before. The first picture I saw him looking really changed was a pic with Jim Pewter from 74 and him holding the Endless sumer record in his pool also in 1974. There are plenty of 1974 pics in the Beach Boys 1975 tour book.

[C.Miller]

Thanks a ton for those. I had some of them, bu the info was very helpful.

I have two I'm a little unsure of the dates on.

I'm thinking 73 here:


And this one is supposedly 74. It pretty amazing how different it is from the former.

[C.Miller]

Also, there's that pic in Peter's book of Brian playing baseball that's dated as 69, but he looks so heavy it looks more likely to be from 73ish. Does anyone know if he had a sudden weight gain then loss around 69?

[MBE]

The baseball was 68 and from 64-72 he would get a gut and loose it. Pretty quickly too. Check out Girls On The Beach and then Ed Suilvan to show you how early on he went up and down. Your first pic is 71 Carnie and Wendy are too little for 73 and his hair is too short. The second is from 74

[C.Miller]

Thanks again for the help.

[Ebb and Flow]

Does anyone know if he had a sudden weight gain then loss around 69?

Brian looked really thin and healthy around '69-'70.  Look at these pictures from around that era...

[C.Miller]

I know, that's what so amazing about it.

Here he is in 68:



Then 69 he's really chubby.

And in 1970 he's about as slim as he ever was.

[Harmonymeister]

Murry died in the summer of 1973. Could the drastic weight gain and overall depression be attributed to that? His way of dealing with the pain. Another interesting weight gain is 1991 or so to his wedding in 1995.

[C.Miller]

Murry died in the summer of 1973. Could the drastic weight gain and overall depression be attributed to that? His way of dealing with the pain. Another interesting weight gain is 1991 or so to his wedding in 1995.

That's a generally excepted theory for both Brian and Dennis' declines.

I still can't get over how crazy it would have been to see Brian in 74 with his 76 and on look, but with his old voice.

And does anyone have any pics of him in 74 mid beard growth?

[MBE]

The only thing I saw is the IJWMFTT doc had a home movie from I think early 74 or so where he looked hairstyle wise like the old Brian no beard but is huge. I am a picture buff and have really studied them.  From 61 to early 63 he was really thin. Mid 63-spring 64 a normal weight. Mid 64-mid 72 up and down but never truly skinny, or obese. Mid-72-early73 bigger then before maybe 250. Mid73-74 seemes to be a gap in photos. Mid 74-mid 76 very overweight. Mid 76-mid 78 in fairly decent shape especially around the early summer of 77. Mid 78-early79 very big again Early-mid 79 relatively normal. Mid 79-early 83 worst he ever looked bigger and bigger by the month. Mid83-through 1990 skinny as he was when the group first started. 1991-95 got heavier and heavier until by his wedding he was well over 250. Since 1996 it's been like 1964-72, big sometimes relatively slim others. I think those are his normal weight patterns being between 200-220.

[MBE]

I also think the change in Dennis is interesting. In 1974 he looked like a movie star by 1979 he was a wreck. I think 1977 was the turning point look at how he looks on POB compared to 15 Big Ones.

[C.Miller]

Again, I very much appreciate your help on this MBE. When you look at Dennis beardless in 75 he looks great, if he hadn't  grown the beard he probably would have looked even better through 77. And his change in voice is kind of like Brian's also. I was shocked to hear him speak on the 77 rehearsal and Endless Harmony River Song videos on YouTube, his speaking voice sounded normal even though his sing voice started sounding very raspy around then.

I'll definitely check out that vid in Times, sounds very interesting, maybe make a screen cap of it.

And here's another interesting one:


The shorter beard seems to place it around early 74 perhaps?

[MBE]

I think his hair is too short for 74. 76-78 probably

[Harmonymeister]

I really like the black and white photo of him with the dark suede jacket. I've heard quite a few women say they thought he was quite handsome during the Surf's Up-Holland period. I think Dennis's downfall started when he shaved his POB beard for the POB promo tour. He did look pretty good in those Ed Roach photos from Hawaii mid 78.

[MBE]

Weighing in on Dennis I would say that in every photo through 73 he looks terrific. By 74-5 on most he looks great but a few show him looking a bit rougher I point out the new group photo included in Spirit Of America or the one on the back of the 1975 Good Vibrations comp. The first nine months of 1976 he looked pretty good. It's a more lived in look but mostly it worked. A few pics from then show him looking a bit hungover (the back of the John Tobler 1978 book) but again he looked ok. Last few months of 76 (I'm thinking the Love You cover) starting to look worn. The eyes look much dimmer. Not horrible yet but he was aging rapidly. 1977 I think a few pictures have him looking good and I actually think he looked decent without the beard but look at the cover of P.O.B. he looks really rough. A lot of the concert footage from around this time Central Park etc he looks beat. Not a complete mess but again he just looks older and older. In 1978 there he still looks semi together at times but is pretty strung out by then. He just looks like he is getting rather ill. 1979 well he looked horrible by then unwashed, drunk, totally untogether. Over the next four years he rarely looked anything approaching good. Once in a while he would take a decent photo or get a little cleaned up but I think it's terribly sad how poor he looked in the last years. The eyes again are what give it away. 

[Harmonymeister]

He looks great with Karen Lamm in those Peter Reum pictures. Pretty studly at Brian's 34th birthday party. And I am completely hetero, but I have to say he looks pretty Adonis-like on the P.O.B. cover. Got the whole Dionysusian shag thing going on. He looked an established young millionaire rock star (think the Ed Roach POB promo film). Man, I can smell the sinsemilia just looking at that cover shot. Cruising Pacfic Coast Highway in Ferrari Daytona.

[MBE]

He looks great with Karen Lamm in those Peter Reum pictures. Pretty studly at Brian's 34th birthday party. And I am completely hetero, but I have to say he looks pretty Adonis-like on the P.O.B. cover. Got the whole Dionysusian shag thing going on. He looked an established young millionaire rock star (think the Ed Roach POB promo film). Man, I can smell the sinsemilia just looking at that cover shot. Cruising Pacfic Coast Highway in Ferrari Daytona.

Do you mean the ones of the New Years eve party included in Love You? Very good at Brian's party agreed. P.O.B. promo a little rough hewn but ok, but that cover to me he just looks dead in the eyes. "sinsemilia" more likely snow was falling.

[XY]

Here's a nice group shot from around 1973:

[MBE]

This is a good pic. I am almost positive, despite Keith Badman saying otherwise, that this is a 1974 shot at Caribou. In the 1975 tour book they are wearing these outfits at studio shots that I assume were done there. Also look at Al's hairline and Dennis slight roughness, not to mention the picture I included in the download of Brian from early 73 where he still looked like a slightly bigger version of his old self. Ricky and Blondie are gone too. Any more pics from this "lost" era would be GREAT.

[Harmonymeister]

Quote from: Harmonymeister on May 23, 2007, 03:35:25 PM
He looks great with Karen Lamm in those Peter Reum pictures. Pretty studly at Brian's 34th birthday party. And I am completely hetero, but I have to say he looks pretty Adonis-like on the P.O.B. cover. Got the whole Dionysusian shag thing going on. He looked an established young millionaire rock star (think the Ed Roach POB promo film). Man, I can smell the sinsemilia just looking at that cover shot. Cruising Pacfic Coast Highway in Ferrari Daytona.

Do you mean the ones of the New Years eve party included in Love You? Very good at Brian's party agreed. P.O.B. promo a little rough hewn but ok, but that cover to me he just looks dead in the eyes. "sinsemilia" more likely snow was falling.

Naw not snow, my own sinsemilia from back during my college days. The Karen/Dennis picture I was referring to appears in the Gaines' "Heroes & Villains" bio. Black & White, They are standing next to each other with the beach in the background. Might be a Peter Reum or Guy Webster photo (can't remember and I'm going from memory).

[Harmonymeister]

I always thought Dennis looked pretty dead in almost every photo from about 1980 onward ( actually from 82 or so onward after he cut his hair and beard and had the stubble and bloat).

[C.Miller]

Well heres some 75 ones:













I was actually quite surprised to find so many for 75. I have much less luck with 73 or 74.

[MBE]

I think most of those are 76 once the 15 Big Ones sessions commenced.. the ones where he was REAL heavy are probably from Janurary. The few I know for certain are from 1975 were taken at the Anaheim show.

[MBE]

Quote from: Harmonymeister on May 23, 2007, 03:35:25 PM
He looks great with Karen Lamm in those Peter Reum pictures. Pretty studly at Brian's 34th birthday party. And I am completely hetero, but I have to say he looks pretty Adonis-like on the P.O.B. cover. Got the whole Dionysusian shag thing going on. He looked an established young millionaire rock star (think the Ed Roach POB promo film). Man, I can smell the sinsemilia just looking at that cover shot. Cruising Pacfic Coast Highway in Ferrari Daytona.

Do you mean the ones of the New Years eve party included in Love You? Very good at Brian's party agreed. P.O.B. promo a little rough hewn but ok, but that cover to me he just looks dead in the eyes. "sinsemilia" more likely snow was falling.

Naw not snow, my own sinsemilia from back during my college days. The Karen/Dennis picture I was referring to appears in the Gaines' "Heroes & Villains" bio. Black & White, They are standing next to each other with the beach in the background. Might be a Peter Reum or Guy Webster photo (can't remember and I'm going from memory).

Oh I see. Yeah the pic in that book is nice. Probably from 1976