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Title: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on December 04, 2015, 08:00:50 AM
I thought I would start a thread on Brian’s 2016 tour dates. I suppose I’ll lump all of the “legs” together for now.

With the exception of one benefit show, it appears that all shows are being billed as "Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary" shows, featuring the full "Pet Sounds" album in one set, along with a second set of additional songs. (Setlists will of course vary in length; the multi-act "festival" gigs Brian is playing in particular may feature shorter setlists).

Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin are noted in the tour's press release as joining the tour, but their appearance at every tour stop may not be certain.

Please of course correct any mistakes below and post with any additional shows that pop up.

(http://i.imgur.com/e9FXPTQ.jpg)

AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND

March 26, 2016 – Auckland, New Zealand – Civic Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/civic-theatre-auckland-new-zealand-7bf00e84.html)

March 28, 2016 – Tyagarah, Australia – Tyagara Tea Tree Farm (Bluesfest)
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/tyagarah-tea-tree-farm-byron-bay-australia-5bf07fb4.html)

March 29, 2016 - Sydney, Australia - Sydney Opera House, Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/concert-hall-sydney-opera-house-sydney-australia-1bf07518.html)

March 31, 2016 - Sydney, Australia - Sydney Opera House, Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/concert-hall-sydney-opera-house-sydney-australia-4bf06746.html)

April 3, 2016 – Melbourne, Australia – Palais Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/palais-theatre-melbourne-australia-43f053c7.html)

April 5, 2016 – Hindsmarsh, Australia – Adelaide Entertainment Centre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/adelaide-entertainment-centre-adelaide-australia-13f04529.html)

April 7, 2016 – Perth, Australia – Riverside Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/pcec-riverside-theatre-perth-australia-73f1ba05.html)

JAPAN

April 12, 2016 – Tokyo, Japan – Tokyo International Forum
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/tokyo-international-forum-tokyo-japan-5bf19bc4.html)

April 13, 2016 – Tokyo, Japan – Tokyo International Forum
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/tokyo-international-forum-tokyo-japan-33f190bd.html)

April 15, 2016 – Osaka, Japan – Orix Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/orix-theater-osaka-japan-33f18409.html)

NORTH AMERICA


April 18, 2016 – Las Vegas, NV – The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel (Private Show)
(SETLIST - Not Available)

April 28, 2016 – Jackson, MS – Thalia Mara Hall (Benefit Show, Non-Pet Sounds Show)
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/thalia-mara-hall-jackson-ms-13f13115.html)

May 1, 2016 – Grand Prairie, TX – Verizon Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/verizon-theatre-at-grand-prairie-grand-prairie-tx-53f11f41.html)

EUROPE

May 15, 2016 - Bristol, England - Colston Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/colston-hall-bristol-england-7bf1523c.html)

May 17, 2016 - Birmingham, England - Symphony Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/symphony-hall-birmingham-england-2bf14492.html)

May 18, 2016 - Cardiff, Wales - St. Davids Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/st-davids-hall-cardiff-wales-13febdd9.html)

May 20, 2016 - London, England - Palladium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-4bfeb316.html)

May 21, 2016 - London, England - Palladium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-2bfea8d2.html)

May 22, 2016 - London, England - Palladium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-33fea005.html)

May 24, 2016 - Manchester, England - 02 Apollo
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/o2-apollo-manchester-manchester-england-1bfe95e8.html)

May 26, 2016 - Edinburgh, Scotland - Usher Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/usher-hall-edinburgh-scotland-33fe8879.html)

May 27, 2016 - Glasgow, Scotland - Royal Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/royal-concert-hall-glasgow-scotland-73fe8665.html)

May 29, 2016 - Newcastle, England - Sage Gateshead
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-sage-gateshead-england-43fef76b.html)

May 31, 2016 - Liverpool, England - Philharmonic Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/philharmonic-hall-liverpool-england-43feeb3b.html)

June 1, 2016  - Nottingham, England - Royal Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/royal-concert-hall-nottingham-england-43fee31f.html)

June 4, 2016  - Barcelona, Spain - Primavera Sound Festival
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/parc-del-forum-barcelona-spain-3fecdb7.html)

June 8, 2016  - Tel Aviv-Yafo, Israel - Raanana Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/raanana-park-amphitheater-tel-aviv-israel-3bfe2c78.html)

June 10, 2016 - Oporto, Portugal - NOS Primavera Sound Festival
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/parque-da-cidade-oporto-portugal-1bfe195c.html)

NORTH AMERICA

June 12, 2016 – Brooklyn, NY - Northside Festival
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/mccarren-park-brooklyn-ny-3bfe04c8.html)

June 14, 2016 – Burlington, VT - Flynn Center for the Performing Arts
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/flynn-center-for-the-performing-arts-burlington-vt-5bfe07d4.html)

June 15, 2016 – Portland, ME - Merrill Auditorium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/merrill-auditorium-portland-me-63fe028f.html)

June 17, 2016 – Boston, MA - Symphony Hall w/Boston Pops Orchestra
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/symphony-hall-boston-ma-23fe74af.html)

June 18, 2016 – Boston, MA - Symphony Hall w/Boston Pops Orchestra
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/symphony-hall-boston-ma-3bfe6cc4.html)

June 19, 2016 – Lenox, MA - Tanglewood - Koussevitzky Music Shed
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/tanglewood-music-center-lenox-ma-6bfe6ae6.html)

June 30, 2016 – Del Mar, CA - San Diego County Fair
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/del-mar-fairgrounds-del-mar-ca-73ff9a79.html)

July 1, 2016 – Las Vegas, NV - The Joint at Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-joint-at-hard-rock-hotel-las-vegas-nv-7bff8efc.html)

July 3, 2016 – Ottawa, ON - Confederation Park Jazz Fest
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/confederation-park-ottawa-on-canada-bff85ae.html)

July 4, 2016 – Toronto, ON - Massey Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/massey-hall-toronto-on-canada-73ff8691.html)

July 6, 2016 – Burlington, VT - Flynn Center for the Performing Arts
(SETLIST - Not Available)

July 7, 2016 – Montreal, QC - Montreal Jazz Fest
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/salle-wilfrid-pelletier-montreal-qc-canada-3bffecfc.html)

July 9, 2016 – Phoenix, AZ - Celebrity Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/celebrity-theatre-phoenix-az-33ffe495.html)

July 10, 2016 – Los Angeles, CA - Hollywood Bowl
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/hollywood-bowl-hollywood-ca-3bffdc88.html)

July 15, 2016 – Elizabeth, IN - Horseshoe Casino
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/horseshoe-southern-indiana-elizabeth-in-7bff3e2c.html)

July 16, 2016 – Chicago, IL - Pitchfork Festival
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/union-park-chicago-il-43ff377f.html)

July 17, 2016 – Council Bluffs, IA - Horseshoe Casino
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/harrahs-stir-cove-council-bluffs-ia-63ff2ec7.html)

July 20, 2016 – Kansas City, MO - Muriel Kauffman Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/kauffman-center-for-performing-arts-kansas-city-mo-7bff1ad0.html)

July 21, 2016 – St. Charles, MO - Family Arena
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/family-arena-saint-charles-mo-3bff0cbc.html)

July 22, 2016 – Tunica, MS - Horseshoe Casino
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/horseshoe-tunica-bluesville-robinsonville-ms-4bff075e.html)

July 23, 2016 – Bossier City, LA - Horseshoe Casino
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/riverdome-at-horseshoe-casino-and-hotel-bossier-city-la-2bff7c5a.html)

July 29, 2016 – Paso Robles, CA - California Mid-State Fair
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/chumash-grandstand-arena-paso-robles-ca-4bff7f42.html)

August 16, 2016 – Bowling Green, KY - Southern Kentucky Performing Arts Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/skypac-bowling-green-ky-1bfce5e0.html)

August 18, 2016 – Asheville, NC - Thomas Wolfe Auditorium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/thomas-wolfe-auditorium-asheville-nc-3bfcd834.html)

August 19, 2016 – Raleigh, NC - Duke Energy Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/duke-energy-center-for-the-performing-arts-raleigh-nc-7bfcd6bc.html)

August 20, 2016 – Roanoke, VA - Elmwood Park
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/elmwood-park-roanoke-va-53fccffd.html)

August 22, 2016 – Newport News, VA - Ferguson Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/ferguson-center-for-the-arts-newport-news-va-23fcc09b.html)

August 23, 2016 – Baltimore, MD - Hippodrome Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/hippodromethe-france-merrick-performing-arts-center-baltimore-md-4bfc3f8a.html)

August 25, 2016 – Pittsburgh, PA - Benedum Center
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/benedum-center-pittsburgh-pa-2bfc30b2.html)

August 27, 2016 – Atlantic City, NJ - Caesars Atlantic City
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/circus-maximus-theater-atlantic-city-nj-73fc26a9.html)

August 28, 2016 – Gilford, NH - Bank of New Hampshire Pavilion
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/bank-of-new-hampshire-pavilion-at-meadowbrook-gilford-nh-bfc19de.html)

August 29, 2016 – Syracuse, NY - Great New York State Fair
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/new-york-state-fairgrounds-syracuse-ny-3bfc085c.html)

EUROPE

September 1, 2016 – Randers, Denmark - Vaerket
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/vaerket-randers-denmark-4bfc072a.html)

September 3, 2016 – Brighton, England - Preston Park (Together the People Festival)
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/preston-park-brighton-england-23fc7883.html)

September 4, 2016 – Southend-on-Sea, England - Cliffs Pavilion
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/cliffs-pavilion-southend-on-sea-england-13fc7139.html)

September 6, 2016 – Reykjavik, Iceland - Harpa Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/harpa-reykjavik-iceland-43fc6b6b.html)

NORTH AMERICA

September 9, 2016 – Atlanta, GA - Fox Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/fox-theater-atlanta-ga-73fc56b9.html)

September 10, 2016 – St. Augustine, FL - St. Augustine Amphitheatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/st-augustine-amphitheatre-st-augustine-fl-bfc4946.html)

September 11, 2016 – Sarasota, FL - Van Wezel Performing Arts Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/van-wezel-performing-arts-centre-sarasota-fl-6bfc461e.html)

September 13, 2016 – St. Petersburg, FL - Mahaffey Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/mahaffey-theater-st-petersburg-fl-63fdbaef.html)

September 14, 2016 – Hollywood, FL - Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/hard-rock-live-hollywood-fl-7bfdb268.html)

September 16, 2016 – Nashville, TN - Ryman Auditorium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/ryman-auditorium-nashville-tn-23fda433.html)

September 17, 2016 – Nashville, TN - Ryman Auditorium
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/ryman-auditorium-nashville-tn-73fda219.html)

September 19, 2016 – Charlotte, NC - Blumenthal PAC
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/belk-theater-at-blumenthal-performing-arts-center-charlotte-nc-5bfd9790.html)

September 20, 2016 – Bethesda, MD - The Music Center at Strathmore
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-music-center-at-strathmore-north-bethesda-md-23fd8cd3.html)

September 21, 2016 – Red Bank, NJ - Count Basie Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/count-basie-theatre-red-bank-nj-53fd8739.html)

September 23, 2016 – Philadelphia, PA - Tower Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/tower-theatre-upper-darby-pa-3bfdf81c.html)

September 24, 2016 – New York, NY - Beacon Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/beacon-theatre-new-york-ny-63fdf6fb.html)

September 25, 2016 – Easton, PA - State Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/state-theatre-easton-pa-33fdecdd.html)

September 27, 2016 – Wallingford, CT - Toyota Presents at Oakdale
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/toyota-presents-the-oakdale-theatre-wallingford-ct-6bfde2e2.html)

September 28, 2016 – Buffalo, NY - University at Buffalo - Center for the Arts
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/university-at-buffalo-center-for-the-arts-buffalo-ny-2bfdd876.html)

September 30, 2016 – Detroit, MI - Fox Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/fox-theatre-detroit-mi-13fdcd19.html)

October 1, 2016 – Chicago, IL - Chicago Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/chicago-theatre-chicago-il-3bfdc0a8.html)

October 2, 2016 – Minneapolis, MN - Orpheum Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/orpheum-theatre-minneapolis-mn-33fdc029.html)

October 4, 2016 – Denver, CO - Paramount Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/paramount-theatre-denver-co-7bfd3a1c.html)

October 5, 2016 – Salt Lake City, UT - Abravanel Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/abravanel-hall-salt-lake-city-ut-33fd3045.html)

October 7, 2016 – Portland, OR - Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/arlene-schnitzer-concert-hall-portland-or-5bfd2b34.html)

October 8, 2016 – Seattle, WA - Paramount Theatre
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/paramount-theatre-seattle-wa-33fd20d1.html)

October 10, 2016 – Arcata, CA - Humboldt State University - Van Duzer Theatre
(SETLIST - Not Available)

October 12, 2016 – San Francisco, CA - The Masonic
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/nob-hill-masonic-auditorium-san-francisco-ca-4bfd073a.html)

October 13, 2016 – San Francisco, CA - The Masonic
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/nob-hill-masonic-auditorium-san-francisco-ca-13fd7da1.html)

October 14, 2016 – Stateline, NV - Harrah's Casino
(SETLIST - Not Available)

October 15, 2016 – Sacramento, CA - Sacramento Community Center Theater
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/sacramento-community-center-theater-sacramento-ca-43fd6f97.html)


EUROPE

October 28, 2016 – London, England - Royal Albert Hall
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/royal-albert-hall-london-england-1bfa9148.html)

October 30, 2016 – Paris, France - Salle Pleyel
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/salle-pleyel-paris-france-5bfa8750.html)

October 31, 2016 – Basel, Switzerland - Messe Eventhalle
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/event-halle-basel-switzerland-bfaf962.html)

November 3, 2016 – Dubai, UAE - The Irish Village
(SETLIST - Not Available)

November 6, 2016 – Oslo, Norway - Oslo Spektrum
(SETLIST - Not Available)

November 7, 2016 – Malmo, Sweden - Malmo Live
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/malmo-live-konserthus-malmo-sweden-43fa331b.html)

NORTH AMERICA

December 1, 2016 – Monterrey, Mexico - Auditorio Pabellon M
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/auditorio-pabellon-m-monterrey-mexico-2bfb8c92.html)

December 3, 2016 – Acapulco, Mexico - Tropico Festival
(SETLIST - http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/hotel-pierre-mundo-imperial-acapulco-mexico-7bfb8200.html)

For 2017 tour dates, the "Pet Sounds - The Final Performances" tour, see the 2017 tour thread here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,24485.0.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TonyW on December 04, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
March 29,2016 - Sydney, Australia - Sydney Opera House, Concert Hall

The gap is dates between the Sydney (29 March) and Melbourne (April 3) potentially means other dates could be added, possibly adding a Brisbane show or extra shows in Sydney and/or Melbourne. Sydney show is almost sold out.

Newcastle and Wollongong shows are also possibilities.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on December 04, 2015, 12:51:41 PM
Much as I welcome another tour of Pet Sounds I cant help but think id love to see and hear another tour of SMILE.. .This subject never comes up and im not pooh poohing  the new PS tour.. I wonder if BW is avoiding the issue.. It has been over 10 yrs since SMILE was played live.. Just sayin and asking..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on December 04, 2015, 01:08:52 PM
Much as I welcome another tour of Pet Sounds I cant help but think id love to see and hear another tour of SMILE.. .This subject never comes up and im not pooh poohing  the new PS tour.. I wonder if BW is avoiding the issue.. It has been over 10 yrs since SMILE was played live.. Just sayin and asking..

I never got the impression doing a full old album in concert was going to be a regular thing. He did two years of "Smile" touring in a row. Other than a small number of PS 40th anniversary shows and a couple random performances of PS on the 2013 tour,  he hasn't done any old albums in full in concert since then. I would imagine, if Brian is still touring in 2017, they might try for a 50th Smile tour. Would be cool to finally hear Al sing on some of the "Smile" stuff (beyond the stuff that's already in Brian/BB setlists).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on December 04, 2015, 01:09:08 PM
Much as I welcome another tour of Pet Sounds I cant help but think id love to see and hear another tour of SMILE.. .This subject never comes up and im not pooh poohing  the new PS tour.. I wonder if BW is avoiding the issue.. It has been over 10 yrs since SMILE was played live.. Just sayin and asking..

Keep in mind 2017 could be regarded as Smile's anniversary… as could 2021… and 2024…


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fall Breaks on December 04, 2015, 02:24:02 PM

April 29, 2016 – Austin, TX – Carson Creek Ranch (Levitation Festival)

Levitation Festival? Let the speculation about an appearance by Mike begin!  :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on December 04, 2015, 02:48:58 PM

March 28, 2016 – Tyagarah, Australia – Tyagara Tea Tree Farm (Bluesfest)


Interestingly, Brian happens to be sharing the bill for this gig with (amongst a million other acts) a fellow goes by the name of Mike Love  :lol

Not our Mike Love of course, just some guy with a beard offering healing and inspiration through his music.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GoodVibrations33 on December 05, 2015, 05:52:46 AM
New header on the VIP packages site for next year's tour:  http://tickets.artistarena.com/BrianWilson (http://tickets.artistarena.com/BrianWilson)

(http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r585/goodvibrations33/Screen%20Shot%202015-12-05%20at%208.40.12%20AM_zpsbdvej1xr.png)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on December 05, 2015, 06:41:58 AM
Great! Last night Blondie went on and on about how much he enjoyed the present tour and that he'd love to keep on going.
So now it looks to be confirmed - Blondie and Al.
Hate to be greedy as some of you missed seeing the group this year, but hope and pray I can somehow see them at least one more time


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: acedecade75 on December 05, 2015, 07:44:18 AM
I just wish David would join the tour now.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 05, 2015, 09:17:22 AM
First time I've seen this mentioned as "Final performance in its entirety" or have I just been out of the loop?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on December 05, 2015, 03:24:34 PM
First time I've seen this mentioned as "Final performance in its entirety" or have I just been out of the loop?

Pretty sure it's been mentioned before on there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 05, 2015, 05:33:45 PM
At the risk of apperaing an a**hole, does anyone who bought tickets to the 'final' performances in 2006 now feel shafted?

Mr. Wilson has said that this tour will be the last that includes full performances of "Pet Sounds."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/19/arts/19weekahead.html?_r=0



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 05:43:32 PM
I would never feel shafted for buying tickets to see BW (unless he came out, performed one song, then left).

Besides, that was over 9 years ago...did anyone really think he'd be still performing in this 70s?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 05, 2015, 06:00:55 PM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?


I'll get my own hat.....


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 05, 2015, 06:10:06 PM
:lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on December 05, 2015, 06:41:02 PM
I wonder what they mean by rare cuts?  Probably just PR spin, but it would be cool to bring out some stuff they rarely do. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: acedecade75 on December 05, 2015, 06:52:28 PM
I would never feel shafted for buying tickets to see BW (unless he came out, performed one song, then left).

Besides, that was over 9 years ago...did anyone really think he'd be still performing in this 70s?

 I agree with you completely.  Anytime you get to see Brian Wilson perform, it's a gift.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: John Stivaktas on December 06, 2015, 04:08:46 AM
Much as I welcome another tour of Pet Sounds I cant help but think id love to see and hear another tour of SMILE.. .This subject never comes up and im not pooh poohing  the new PS tour.. I wonder if BW is avoiding the issue.. It has been over 10 yrs since SMILE was played live.. Just sayin and asking..

I agree. I regret not seeing the SMiLE shows in 2004. I console myself with playing the Live show from the Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE DVD every now and then .(Wow...Currently $99 on Amazon!)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 06, 2015, 12:20:01 PM
Thanks for the info on the Smile DVD. Just did a 'buy now' on a auction here in NZ for $11 for new. ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on December 06, 2015, 04:48:01 PM
I wish the band could get it's stuff together and have a full band PSGV50 tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Aegir on December 07, 2015, 05:54:32 AM
Brian & co randomly unannouncedly played all of Pet Sounds when I saw them in 2013


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on December 07, 2015, 06:28:50 AM
At the risk of apperaing an a**hole, does anyone who bought tickets to the 'final' performances in 2006 now feel shafted?

Mr. Wilson has said that this tour will be the last that includes full performances of "Pet Sounds."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/19/arts/19weekahead.html?_r=0


I just don't think it's a particularly actionable offense. Dunno if the statute of limitations would allow for suing Brian or his tour promoter for a 2006/2007 incident.

And actually, when the November 2006 tour dates were announced as the "last" PS tour, that was before the three January 2007 dates were announced. So he may have reneged on that mere months later. And, as others have mentioned, they did the full PS album on at least two dates on the 2013 tour. Does that count? It wasn't a PS tour.

I'd also be curious to know if any actual promotional materials (as opposed to Brian or someone else just saying in interviews or conversation that it was the last PS tour) such as posters for those 40th anniversary dates actual stated it was the final PS tour.

My question is, how many fans went to those PS 40th shows SOLELY because it was the last performance? So if they would have left that *one* detail out, and everything else was the same, are there people that wouldn't have gone?

But no, I don't feel shafted having gone to one of the Brian/Al PS shows in January 2007, and if someone really complains about how a show was promoted a decade ago because Brian is doing *another* tour now, then they indeed would not probably get a lot of empathy.

Live shows generally have to warranty very little as far as setlist and things like that. Pretty much, if you buy a ticket for an artist and the artist shows up and performs something on stage, they're covered. Countless bands have said a tour is their last tour and then gone on to do more.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on December 07, 2015, 06:34:29 AM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?


I'll get my own hat.....

I never saw Mike walking out on the reunion as "keeping his word." He never *promised* to NEVER do another reunion show. Going back to a previous status quo isn't really keeping one's word.

There was a Rolling Stone article back in 1999 or 2000, concerning the injunctions against Al's "Family & Friends" and whatnot, where it was either Elliott Lott or one of BRI's attorneys stating that Mike only had a few years of touring left (the implication being that his license shouldn't be infringed upon because he only had a few years of income left to generate from the license). That was 15 or 16 years ago.

Clearly, all of these guys have had more longevity than even they themselves thought they would 15 or 20 years ago.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Micha on December 07, 2015, 09:10:11 AM

April 29, 2016 – Austin, TX – Carson Creek Ranch (Levitation Festival)

Levitation Festival? Let the speculation about an appearance by Mike begin!  :-D

He'll fly in as a special guest! :wink

Lucky Australian bastards! I wanna see the show too! Can't afford to go to Australia AGAIN! (I don't have to work between March 18 and April 3 though...) German dates please!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on December 07, 2015, 09:14:01 AM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?


I'll get my own hat.....

I never saw Mike walking out on the reunion as "keeping his word." He never *promised* to NEVER do another reunion show. Going back to a previous status quo isn't really keeping one's word.

There was a Rolling Stone article back in 1999 or 2000, concerning the injunctions against Al's "Family & Friends" and whatnot, where it was either Elliott Lott or one of BRI's attorneys stating that Mike only had a few years of touring left (the implication being that his license shouldn't be infringed upon because he only had a few years of income left to generate from the license). That was 15 or 16 years ago.

Clearly, all of these guys have had more longevity than even they themselves thought they would 15 or 20 years ago.

Hey Jude - your second sentence is a double negative.  You do know what that means?  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on December 07, 2015, 09:17:03 AM
At the risk of apperaing an a**hole, does anyone who bought tickets to the 'final' performances in 2006 now feel shafted?

Mr. Wilson has said that this tour will be the last that includes full performances of "Pet Sounds."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/19/arts/19weekahead.html?_r=0



"Farewell" Tours of any kind are rarely a true farewell.  The Who, Ozzy Osbourne, Black Sabbath, Kiss, The Eagles, Scorpions, Judas Priest, etc etc have all been touring well beyond their original "farewells." 

I think any announced "final" performance of an album, a song, or by an artist has to be taken with a grain of salt. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on December 07, 2015, 09:34:04 AM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?


I'll get my own hat.....

I never saw Mike walking out on the reunion as "keeping his word." He never *promised* to NEVER do another reunion show. Going back to a previous status quo isn't really keeping one's word.

There was a Rolling Stone article back in 1999 or 2000, concerning the injunctions against Al's "Family & Friends" and whatnot, where it was either Elliott Lott or one of BRI's attorneys stating that Mike only had a few years of touring left (the implication being that his license shouldn't be infringed upon because he only had a few years of income left to generate from the license). That was 15 or 16 years ago.

Clearly, all of these guys have had more longevity than even they themselves thought they would 15 or 20 years ago.

Hey Jude - your second sentence is a double negative.  You do know what that means?  :lol

Yes, that was the whole point. There was an assertion that *not* doing something that was *never* promised was an example of keeping one's word. There was no word to speak of. Hence, the exaggeration for effect. He indeed never made a promissory statement in which he said he would never do another reunion show.

By that measure, my not running for president is "keeping my word" as well. I never said I was in the first place.

I'd also recommend not complaining about people "derailing threads" when you're happy to offer one-line grammatical corrections with no on-topic content. Your post is more of a thread derailment than the posts you've been complaining about.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on December 07, 2015, 09:41:27 AM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?

I'll get my own hat.....

I never saw Mike walking out on the reunion as "keeping his word." He never *promised* to NEVER do another reunion show. Going back to a previous status quo isn't really keeping one's word.

There was a Rolling Stone article back in 1999 or 2000, concerning the injunctions against Al's "Family & Friends" and whatnot, where it was either Elliott Lott or one of BRI's attorneys stating that Mike only had a few years of touring left (the implication being that his license shouldn't be infringed upon because he only had a few years of income left to generate from the license). That was 15 or 16 years ago.

Clearly, all of these guys have had more longevity than even they themselves thought they would 15 or 20 years ago.

Hey Jude - your second sentence is a double negative.  You do know what that means?  :lol

Yes, that was the whole point. There was an assertion that *not* doing something that was *never* promised was an example of keeping one's word. There was no word to speak of. Hence, the exaggeration for effect. He indeed never made a promissory statement in which he said he would never do another reunion show.

By that measure, my not running for president is "keeping my word" as well. I never said I was in the first place.

I'd also recommend not complaining about people "derailing threads" when you're happy to offer one-line grammatical corrections with no on-topic content. Your post is more of a thread derailment than the posts you've been complaining about.
An old judge I used to swim with, used to often say, "I am not unimpressed" about this, that, or the other thing...

You do know that once I sorted out that double negative, I figured out that it meant "I am impressed."

A double negative is a positive.   :lol



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on December 07, 2015, 12:11:05 PM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?

I'll get my own hat.....

I never saw Mike walking out on the reunion as "keeping his word." He never *promised* to NEVER do another reunion show. Going back to a previous status quo isn't really keeping one's word.

There was a Rolling Stone article back in 1999 or 2000, concerning the injunctions against Al's "Family & Friends" and whatnot, where it was either Elliott Lott or one of BRI's attorneys stating that Mike only had a few years of touring left (the implication being that his license shouldn't be infringed upon because he only had a few years of income left to generate from the license). That was 15 or 16 years ago.

Clearly, all of these guys have had more longevity than even they themselves thought they would 15 or 20 years ago.

Hey Jude - your second sentence is a double negative.  You do know what that means?  :lol

Yes, that was the whole point. There was an assertion that *not* doing something that was *never* promised was an example of keeping one's word. There was no word to speak of. Hence, the exaggeration for effect. He indeed never made a promissory statement in which he said he would never do another reunion show.

By that measure, my not running for president is "keeping my word" as well. I never said I was in the first place.

I'd also recommend not complaining about people "derailing threads" when you're happy to offer one-line grammatical corrections with no on-topic content. Your post is more of a thread derailment than the posts you've been complaining about.
An old judge I used to swim with, used to often say, "I am not unimpressed" about this, that, or the other thing...

You do know that once I sorted out that double negative, I figured out that it meant "I am impressed."

A double negative is a positive.   :lol



Scottish joke:

Teacher to English language class: "in the English language, a double negative can turn a sentence into a positive, but a double positive can never be a negative."

Sarcastic Scot's voice from back of class: "Aye, right!"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on December 07, 2015, 12:48:35 PM
Two American dates added for the Pet Sounds tour:

http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on December 07, 2015, 12:50:22 PM
Three American dates added for the Pet Sounds tour:

http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/

Cool!!  Maybe these are the first dates of a Summer Tour in the US.  It seems to be around the same time the tour started this past summer. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on December 07, 2015, 12:51:52 PM
Three American dates added for the Pet Sounds tour:

http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/

Cool!!  Maybe these are the first dates of a Summer Tour in the US.  It seems to be around the same time the tour started this past summer. 

Nothing can beat a Brian Wilson summer US tour! I look forward to more dates being announced.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: skabandit22 on December 07, 2015, 01:00:19 PM
I'm so excited to see him at Levitation. Those who saw him tour the album back in '04, what were the sets like? I wonder if Blondie will play for all of the album? Going to be interesting for sure. Lots and lots of people going to be indulging in the drugs that contributed to his rough times.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on December 07, 2015, 01:07:12 PM
I'm so excited to see him at Levitation. Those who saw him tour the album back in '04, what were the sets like? I wonder if Blondie will play for all of the album? Going to be interesting for sure. Lots and lots of people going to be indulging in the drugs that contributed to his rough times.

I can't say anything about the '04 tour, but I'm guessing Blondie won't be on stage for the Pet Sounds section, which I believe is what happened for the 2013 gigs when they pulled out PS during the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 07, 2015, 01:08:28 PM
At the risk of apperaing an a**hole, does anyone who bought tickets to the 'final' performances in 2006 now feel shafted?

Mr. Wilson has said that this tour will be the last that includes full performances of "Pet Sounds."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/19/arts/19weekahead.html?_r=0


I just don't think it's a particularly actionable offense. Dunno if the statute of limitations would allow for suing Brian or his tour promoter for a 2006/2007 incident.

And actually, when the November 2006 tour dates were announced as the "last" PS tour, that was before the three January 2007 dates were announced. So he may have reneged on that mere months later. And, as others have mentioned, they did the full PS album on at least two dates on the 2013 tour. Does that count? It wasn't a PS tour.

I'd also be curious to know if any actual promotional materials (as opposed to Brian or someone else just saying in interviews or conversation that it was the last PS tour) such as posters for those 40th anniversary dates actual stated it was the final PS tour.

My question is, how many fans went to those PS 40th shows SOLELY because it was the last performance? So if they would have left that *one* detail out, and everything else was the same, are there people that wouldn't have gone?

But no, I don't feel shafted having gone to one of the Brian/Al PS shows in January 2007, and if someone really complains about how a show was promoted a decade ago because Brian is doing *another* tour now, then they indeed would not probably get a lot of empathy.

Live shows generally have to warranty very little as far as setlist and things like that. Pretty much, if you buy a ticket for an artist and the artist shows up and performs something on stage, they're covered. Countless bands have said a tour is their last tour and then gone on to do more.


http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,3255.msg56630.html#msg56630

http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger2/2822/4215/1600/755856/BrianWilson_email.jpg



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 07, 2015, 01:14:05 PM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?


I'll get my own hat.....

I never saw Mike walking out on the reunion as "keeping his word." He never *promised* to NEVER do another reunion show. Going back to a previous status quo isn't really keeping one's word.




What are you talking about? Mike agreed to 50 shows, later extended to 73. He did them all so he kept his word.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on December 07, 2015, 03:43:19 PM
I never expected him to be performing in his 40s!

Still.....A pitch was made in 2006 and now reneged. Didn't a certain lead singer get some negative comment in 2012 and for 3 years since after actually keeping his word?


I'll get my own hat.....

I never saw Mike walking out on the reunion as "keeping his word." He never *promised* to NEVER do another reunion show. Going back to a previous status quo isn't really keeping one's word.




What are you talking about? Mike agreed to 50 shows, later extended to 73. He did them all so he kept his word.

It's obviously more semantics. The statement above suggested Mike caught flak for keeping his word. I don't think anyone complained that he did the 73 shows. They complained because he refused to do more. Refusing to do more wasn't "keeping his word." He kept his word by doing contracted shows, not by refusing to do more. There is no contract I'm aware of where Mike outlined that he would never do another reunion show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on December 07, 2015, 04:14:46 PM
Going back to doing what they had been doing pre-C50, as they all agreed to according to Mike, would be keeping their word.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on December 07, 2015, 04:24:53 PM
In any case, it's irrelevant.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on December 07, 2015, 04:25:03 PM
Going back to doing what they had been doing pre-C50, as they all agreed to according to Mike, would be keeping their word.

Didn't the advertisements state they were getting together "one last time"?  But come on guys, let's not derail the thread two pages into it.  :lol  The original comment about C50 was meant to be a joke anyway.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on December 07, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
It's all in good fun but OT so I'll withdraw from the field.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 18thofMay on December 07, 2015, 05:28:39 PM
For all the doubters of Brian's pulling power, he just sold out the Sydney Opera House in a few days!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on December 07, 2015, 05:44:31 PM
For all the doubters of Brian's pulling power, he just sold out the Sydney Opera House in a few days!!

Really cool.

I don't see him having trouble moving tickets for this tour anywhere.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 07, 2015, 08:17:25 PM
Pet Sounds will be an easy sell, and with the first two US dates being in Maine and Vermont, one would assume that it's going to be rather extensive, well as extensive as a Brian Wilson tour will be.

I'd like to think he'll be back down in my neck of the woods late June/ early July. Pier Six Pavilion in our harbor would be the perfect place for this show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on December 07, 2015, 08:47:49 PM
Pet Sounds will be an easy sell, and with the first two US dates being in Maine and Vermont, one would assume that it's going to be rather extensive, well as extensive as a Brian Wilson tour will be.

I'd like to think he'll be back down in my neck of the woods late June/ early July. Pier Six Pavilion in our harbor would be the perfect place for this show.

Pier Six would be cool.  But I was thinking that The Modell Lyric in Baltimore would be perfect for Brian and his band.  Either way, if it's within 100 miles, I'll be there. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 07, 2015, 10:16:39 PM
Pet Sounds will be an easy sell, and with the first two US dates being in Maine and Vermont, one would assume that it's going to be rather extensive, well as extensive as a Brian Wilson tour will be.

I'd like to think he'll be back down in my neck of the woods late June/ early July. Pier Six Pavilion in our harbor would be the perfect place for this show.

Pier Six would be cool.  But I was thinking that The Modell Lyric in Baltimore would be perfect for Brian and his band.  Either way, if it's within 100 miles, I'll be there. 

The absolute best would be Meyerhoff w/ the BSO...one can dream, eh?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TonyW on December 07, 2015, 10:30:48 PM
For all the doubters of Brian's pulling power, he just sold out the Sydney Opera House in a few days!!

There's room in the schedule for a second Sydney show. The Enmore maybe?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 08, 2015, 02:37:48 AM
So... looks like the promised Spring UK/Europe 2016 tour is narrowing down late February/early March, maybe late April/May or... ah, that's it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on December 08, 2015, 02:40:43 AM
So... looks like the promised Spring UK/Europe 2016 tour is narrowing down late February/early March, maybe late April/May or... ah, that's it.

Did they say it was going to be spring at all? The original announcement said "He will be back in the UK and Europe in 2016 with a string of concerts to mark the 50th Anniversary of his seminal album Pet Sounds, which will be his final European tour." -- did they clarify since?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on December 08, 2015, 02:52:07 AM
Well I'll be goshdarned... all this time I've been misreading "string" as "spring". Anyone here is free to berate me for being, unquestionably, a complete idiot in this respect. Next thing you know, I'll be forgetting... uh... something... it'll come to me.  :old


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on December 08, 2015, 08:23:08 AM
I'm so excited to see him at Levitation. Those who saw him tour the album back in '04, what were the sets like? I wonder if Blondie will play for all of the album? Going to be interesting for sure. Lots and lots of people going to be indulging in the drugs that contributed to his rough times.

I can't say anything about the '04 tour, but I'm guessing Blondie won't be on stage for the Pet Sounds section, which I believe is what happened for the 2013 gigs when they pulled out PS during the show.

Blondie thus far, in both 2013 and 2015, has usually only been on stage for the songs he sings leads ("Sail on Sailor", "Wild Honey", and in 2015 "Sail Away"), and then he comes back out for a few of the encore songs. On the 2013 tour shows he attended, I believe he also joined in on backing vocals for one or two of the Jeff Beck songs that a few BW band guys came out for.

So I would assume he won't be on stage for the PS section of 2016 shows. I'm really hoping they find *something* else for Blondie to sing, whether it's "Funky Pretty" or "Hold on Dear Brother", or they could get adventurous and have him sing "River Song" or something. Considering they haven't even done "Funky Pretty", that seems highly unlikely of course. But if Dave can sing "Forever" (which he did at a few 2013 shows with Brian and Al), certainly Blondie can sing "River Song."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on December 08, 2015, 08:52:20 AM
I'm so excited to see him at Levitation. Those who saw him tour the album back in '04, what were the sets like? I wonder if Blondie will play for all of the album? Going to be interesting for sure. Lots and lots of people going to be indulging in the drugs that contributed to his rough times.

I can't say anything about the '04 tour, but I'm guessing Blondie won't be on stage for the Pet Sounds section, which I believe is what happened for the 2013 gigs when they pulled out PS during the show.

Blondie thus far, in both 2013 and 2015, has usually only been on stage for the songs he sings leads ("Sail on Sailor", "Wild Honey", and in 2015 "Sail Away"), and then he comes back out for a few of the encore songs. On the 2013 tour shows he attended, I believe he also joined in on backing vocals for one or two of the Jeff Beck songs that a few BW band guys came out for.

So I would assume he won't be on stage for the PS section of 2016 shows. I'm really hoping they find *something* else for Blondie to sing, whether it's "Funky Pretty" or "Hold on Dear Brother", or they could get adventurous and have him sing "River Song" or something. Considering they haven't even done "Funky Pretty", that seems highly unlikely of course. But if Dave can sing "Forever" (which he did at a few 2013 shows with Brian and Al), certainly Blondie can sing "River Song."

Considering they did Hold On Dear Brother during the BW&Friends show, I'm surprised it never showed up in a setlist. 

I'd love to have Leaving This Town in the set. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Peter Pumpkinhead on December 08, 2015, 09:25:25 AM
So... looks like the promised Spring UK/Europe 2016 tour is narrowing down late February/early March, maybe late April/May or... ah, that's it.

Sounds realistic! Based in Germany, I really hope for shows in Berlin and Hamburg, maybe even Frankfurt and Munich. We'll see.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on December 08, 2015, 10:45:01 AM
Please add:
6/14 - Burlington, VT
6/15 - Portland, ME

I wonder if there will be a show on 5/16 - of course, it would have to be in LA!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 08, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
Since I need a little breather from the Philosophy final paper I'm working on...I put together a realistic Pet Sounds tour setlist!  :lol

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Help Me Rhonda (Al Jardine)
Then I Kissed Her (Al Jardine)
Dance, Dance, Dance (Al Jardine)
Please Let Me Wonder
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Till I Die
Sail on Sailor (Blondie Chaplin)
Funky Pretty (Blondie Chaplin)
Wild Honey (Blondie Chaplin)
INTERMISSION
Wouldn't it Be Nice (Al Jardine)
You Still Believe in Me (Al Jardine)
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Matt Jardine)
I'm Waiting for The Day
Let's Go Away For Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There's An Answer (Al Jardine)
Here Today (Blondie Chaplin!!!) How rockin' could THIS be!?!
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No
Lights out...no one leaves the stage
ENCORE
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations


NO NO NO: All Summer Long, Babrara Ann, Surfin' USA, Fun Fun Fun, Car Songs blah de blah de BLAH!  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on December 08, 2015, 11:26:59 AM
I'm so excited to see him at Levitation. Those who saw him tour the album back in '04, what were the sets like? I wonder if Blondie will play for all of the album? Going to be interesting for sure. Lots and lots of people going to be indulging in the drugs that contributed to his rough times.
I can't say anything about the '04 tour, but I'm guessing Blondie won't be on stage for the Pet Sounds section, which I believe is what happened for the 2013 gigs when they pulled out PS during the show.
Blondie thus far, in both 2013 and 2015, has usually only been on stage for the songs he sings leads ("Sail on Sailor", "Wild Honey", and in 2015 "Sail Away"), and then he comes back out for a few of the encore songs. On the 2013 tour shows he attended, I believe he also joined in on backing vocals for one or two of the Jeff Beck songs that a few BW band guys came out for.

So I would assume he won't be on stage for the PS section of 2016 shows. I'm really hoping they find *something* else for Blondie to sing, whether it's "Funky Pretty" or "Hold on Dear Brother", or they could get adventurous and have him sing "River Song" or something. Considering they haven't even done "Funky Pretty", that seems highly unlikely of course. But if Dave can sing "Forever" (which he did at a few 2013 shows with Brian and Al), certainly Blondie can sing "River Song."

Considering they did Hold On Dear Brother during the BW&Friends show, I'm surprised it never showed up in a setlist. 

I'd love to have Leaving This Town in the set. 
Leaving This Town - the jewel in the crown.   ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 08, 2015, 11:58:42 AM
Since I need a little breather from the Philosophy final paper I'm working on...I put together a realistic Pet Sounds tour setlist!  :lol

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Help Me Rhonda (Al Jardine)
Then I Kissed Her (Al Jardine)
Dance, Dance, Dance (Al Jardine)
Please Let Me Wonder
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Till I Die
Sail on Sailor (Blondie Chaplin)
Funky Pretty (Blondie Chaplin)
Wild Honey (Blondie Chaplin)
INTERMISSION
Wouldn't it Be Nice (Al Jardine)
You Still Believe in Me (Al Jardine)
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Matt Jardine)
I'm Waiting for The Day
Let's Go Away For Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There's An Answer (Al Jardine)
Here Today (Blondie Chaplin!!!) How rockin' could THIS be!?!
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No
Lights out...no one leaves the stage
ENCORE
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations


NO NO NO: All Summer Long, Babrara Ann, Surfin' USA, Fun Fun Fun, Car Songs blah de blah de BLAH!  :lol


For his tour to NZ and Australia PS is down for the first part of the show. If that goes well I would expect the rest of the tour would be the same.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/CU1511/S00353/brian-wilson-performing-pet-sounds-one-nz-show-only.htm

BRIAN WILSON PERFORMING PET SOUNDS AND HIS GREATEST HITS

50th Anniversary Celebration Of Pet Sounds And Final Performances In Its Entirety

Brian Wilson performing Pet Sounds is a rare, unforgettable live music experience spanning two parts: ACT 1: Pet Sounds and ACT 2: His Greatest Hits and will feature his incredible band including original Beach Boys member Al Jardine and long-term member Blondie Chaplin. Bluesfest Festival Director Peter Noble has described bringing Brian Wilson to Australasia to perform Pet Sounds as a "pinch me, I must be dreaming moment".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 08, 2015, 12:32:29 PM
That's interesting! I missed that!

I cannot once think of an artist using that sequencing before, that includes Brian himself!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Micha on December 08, 2015, 12:37:53 PM
So... looks like the promised Spring UK/Europe 2016 tour is narrowing down late February/early March, maybe late April/May or... ah, that's it.

Sounds realistic! Based in Germany, I really hope for shows in Berlin and Hamburg, maybe even Frankfurt and Munich. We'll see.

Hannover, please. PLEASE!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on December 08, 2015, 01:00:20 PM
Pinch me, I must be dreaming!

I never thought I'd see Brian live, and now I will.  Just to be near that man's presence is enough.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on December 08, 2015, 01:06:48 PM
That's interesting! I missed that!

I cannot once think of an artist using that sequencing before, that includes Brian himself!
Brian did it with the Gershwin tour in 2011, and Arthur Lee did it with the Forever Changes tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Micha on December 08, 2015, 01:09:51 PM
long-term member Blondie Chaplin.

I wouldn't call 2 years a "lφng term", but I may translate "long term" wrong.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on December 08, 2015, 01:22:19 PM
Pinch me, I must be dreaming!

I never thought I'd see Brian live, and now I will.  Just to be near that man's presence is enough.



Enjoy Bonnie.  And the fact that he's got two other Beach Boys with him, and a terrific band is just icing on the cake. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on December 08, 2015, 04:43:49 PM
Can he please announce the Europe dates already, I'm so hyped about these shows it is unreal.

If it's my last time seeing Brian, what a way to go out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fall Breaks on December 08, 2015, 09:37:23 PM
Here Today with a Blondie lead is a great suggestion.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: orange22 on December 08, 2015, 09:56:10 PM
Here Today with a Blondie lead is a great suggestion.

Heartily agreed, and also the recommendation to play Leaving This Town- yes! I absolutely love that song, and of course we know how much the In Concert version rocks. To be honest, there aren't many more songs I'd like to see them add.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on December 08, 2015, 11:10:27 PM
Here Today with a Blondie lead is a great suggestion.

Heartily agreed, and also the recommendation to play Leaving This Town- yes! I absolutely love that song, and of course we know how much the In Concert version rocks. To be honest, there aren't many more songs I'd like to see them add.

Agree with all these suggestions. Would also love to see Blondie and Al get the chance to showcase one or two of their own solo songs. Doubt it would happen but they're both fine artists in their own right.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on December 09, 2015, 09:03:33 AM
It seems like I'm alone on this, but at a Brian Wilson show, I want to hear Brian Wilson sing as many leads as he possibly can (meaning songs that are in his range and if they weren't originally sung by someone else on stage - example - Sail On Sailor - I get why Blondie has this). So, no, I wouldn't want to hear Blondie on Here Today, I'd want to hear Brian on that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on December 09, 2015, 09:13:36 AM
It seems like I'm alone on this, but at a Brian Wilson show, I want to hear Brian Wilson sing as many leads as he possibly can (meaning songs that are in his range and if they weren't originally sung by someone else on stage - example - Sail On Sailor - I get why Blondie has this). So, no, I wouldn't want to hear Blondie on Here Today, I'd want to hear Brian on that.

I would have said that before I saw Brian and Al last year doing a hits show. After seeing that, what I want is to see Brian *singing lead on those songs that enthuse him*, and someone else (Al, preferably, because of that great voice) taking the other leads. There were points in the show I saw where Brian was clearly either bored with the show or having other issues, and having Al take some of the leads in those sections stopped the show slumping and meant Brian could keep focus throughout the show (and he did the best Heroes & Villains and God Only Knows I've ever heard from him).
Also, for me at least, I've seen Brian twelve times (counting the reunion tour), Al only four, and Blondie not at all, so that would make a difference for me. And personally, I wouldn't be thinking of a Brian/Al/Blondie tour as being "a Brian Wilson show" but as a Beach Boys show in all but name.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on December 09, 2015, 09:55:13 AM
Personally, I'd like to see this:

Wouldn't It Be Nice - Al w/ Brian on bridge
You Still Believe In Me - Matt J
That's Not Me - Brian
Don't Talk - Matt J
I'm Waiting For The Day - Brian
Let's Go Away
Sloop John B - Al and Brian
God Only Knows - Brian
I Know There's An Answer - Al and Brian
Here Today - Brian
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times - Brian
Pet Sounds
Caroline No - Matt J

Our Prayer
Heroes & Villains
Do It Again
California Girls
I Get Around
Please Let Me Wonder
Then She Kissed Me
The Little Girl I Once Knew
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake The World into something else Al sings
The Night Was So Young
One Kind Of Love
Wild Honey
Sail On Sailor
Surf's Up
Good Vibrations

Help Me Rhonda
Surfin' USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love & Mercy



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on December 09, 2015, 09:56:41 AM
While Blondie does bring a different, rocking energy to the shows, I'd be surprised to see him on stage during the Pet Sounds portion of the show.  

I could be wrong, but I would think Brian and his band would prefer a precise tight arrangement of Pet Sounds, would likely wouldn't allow for much of Blondie's improvised guitar work.  

I would see we'd see Blondie do some songs similar to the way he did on the NPP, to come out, sing lead on a few.  Then, come back for the encores.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Douchepool on December 09, 2015, 10:01:48 AM
Maybe with Foskett finally gone from the band we'll see more Love You songs included in the setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on December 09, 2015, 10:22:29 AM
It seems like I'm alone on this, but at a Brian Wilson show, I want to hear Brian Wilson sing as many leads as he possibly can (meaning songs that are in his range and if they weren't originally sung by someone else on stage - example - Sail On Sailor - I get why Blondie has this). So, no, I wouldn't want to hear Blondie on Here Today, I'd want to hear Brian on that.

I don't look at this as a Brian Wilson show, and after seeing him two weeks ago...I certainly do not really ever need to hear him sing anything that Mike Love sang lead on from about 1962-1965. All of those car & surf songs were incredibly under tempo and Brian still had trouble getting the words out. That part was sad. Now, hand those leads over to Al, and it would make the world of difference. It is, after all, billed as Brian Wilson with Special Guests Al Jardine & Blondie Chaplin...and those special guests are somewhat under used right now.

Yeah, it would be weird to have Blondie out during Pet Sounds but...why not? The Pet Sounds tours have been done before. I haven't seen them, but add something fresh to it. There's nothing to gain in going through the motions one more time...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on December 16, 2015, 11:25:25 AM
New date:  http://nysmusic.com/2015/12/16/brian-wilson-to-perform-pet-sounds-at-tanglewood/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on December 16, 2015, 12:36:50 PM
New date:  http://nysmusic.com/2015/12/16/brian-wilson-to-perform-pet-sounds-at-tanglewood/

Brian AND the Boston Pops? Damn, that sounds like it'll be the highlight of the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: J.G. Dev on December 19, 2015, 05:25:14 AM
The first two summer dates announced (Burlington VT,Portland ME) are already sold out. Glad I got my Portland tix...3rd row!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on December 19, 2015, 05:35:53 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/e9FXPTQ.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/udI6x1a.gif)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on December 19, 2015, 04:29:23 PM
:D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on December 19, 2015, 06:06:29 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/e9FXPTQ.jpg)



Something tells me I'll enjoy these shows  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TonyW on December 23, 2015, 10:48:12 AM
Second Sydney show on sale now at the Sydney Opera House on Thursday 31 March - the first show is the Tuesday night so the stars have aligned for a get together on the Wednesday night - I'm on to it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 23, 2015, 05:06:47 PM
UK date announced? Tanglewood June 19

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/entertainment/ci_29298634/brian-wilson-chris-botti-join-tanglewood-2016-lineup

Berkshire....That's England right?

Edit

Ahhh Massachusetts. You yanks confuse us sometimes! ;D



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on December 23, 2015, 05:38:58 PM
UK date announced? Tanglewood June 19

http://www.berkshireeagle.com/entertainment/ci_29298634/brian-wilson-chris-botti-join-tanglewood-2016-lineup

Berkshire....That's England right?

Edit

Ahhh Massachusetts. You yanks confuse us sometimes! ;D

Remain calm, wait and see.  Patience is everything, I've learned...Well, maybe I haven't learned it, but just wait.  It's really early.





Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on December 27, 2015, 08:10:46 PM
Got my tickets for 26th of March 2016, the Civic, Auckland, New Zealand. A dream come true. Can't wait!!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on December 29, 2015, 02:23:38 AM
 No Auckland 26th or Bluesfest (Aust) 28th mention on Brian's tour page? Strange  :o


http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on January 01, 2016, 02:12:29 AM
No Auckland 26th or Bluesfest (Aust) 28th mention on Brian's tour page? Strange  :o


http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/

I noticed that, it is weird isn't it?!  ???


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on January 01, 2016, 09:40:11 AM
Any insider knowledge on a European tour. Looks to be not happening this summer or sooner.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: brian on January 01, 2016, 12:08:54 PM
Do you guys think he'll add any Canadian dates?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 02, 2016, 01:02:58 PM
I wouldn't make too much of Brian's website missing dates. They NEVER added the 2004 San Francisco Smile date to the site. I went to it, it did happen!  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 02, 2016, 02:44:10 PM
Barely acceptable for a music site listing tours ie RS. Its just sloppy, unprofessional, and amateurish for his own website.....oh wait ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Coda Hall on January 02, 2016, 03:28:51 PM
If Kiss Me, Baby is in the set, I will shed tears.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveMC on January 02, 2016, 07:08:45 PM
I saw the last Pet Sounds tour with the orchestra & band. It was excellent. Curious how this one is.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 02, 2016, 07:47:53 PM
Probably not a lot different from this clip last year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Zwo_wCoIU

Several other PS clips from 2015 are available so a good indication.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 04, 2016, 06:59:51 AM
I saw the last Pet Sounds tour with the orchestra & band. It was excellent. Curious how this one is.

I saw a 2007 "Pet Sounds" gig with Al in attendance, and the only difference from the 2000 PS tour was that Al took on * a few* lead vocal parts. They played "WIBN" in the lower key Brian did in 2000, and Al took the second verse. (I'm guessing they won't do that variation on the upcoming tour, perhaps just giving the lead to Matt or Al in the higher key). Al also sang part of "Sloop" (Brian and Al have been trading off different parts of that song across all the gigs they've done together), and sang his original part on "I Know There's an Answer" (which was perhaps the coolest part of Al's input on the PS set).

In more recent times, they had Foskett singing "Don't Talk", so they may toss that one to Matt.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 21, 2016, 07:09:11 AM
Added the June 4th Barcelona gig to the schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Real Barnyard on January 25, 2016, 03:21:31 AM
Brian Wilson announces 2016 Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary World Tour with new dates in the UK
http://www.brianwilson.com/news


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 25, 2016, 03:35:30 AM
Oh, look, the venues have changed...  ;D

Seriously, someone's been thinking with their brains (and I think I know who), looks like a fine tour.

Waiting for the first bitch, of course - "too soon/too far away/too many/too few/(your plaint here)".  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 25, 2016, 04:04:49 AM
Oh, look, the venues have changed...  ;D

Seriously, someone's been thinking with their brains (and I think I know who), looks like a fine tour.

Waiting for the first bitch, of course - "too soon/too far away/too many/too few/(your plaint here)".  :lol

Yep. Those are good venues. I'll be going to at least Manchester and Liverpool, and possibly others depending on family commitments. Looking forward to this. Do we know if Al and Blondie will be on these dates?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on January 25, 2016, 04:11:15 AM
I see Stainforth's been left out again… what are we going to do with all the unsold milk chocolate digestives bought in anticipation?

Guess it's gonna be maybe Manchester and/or Glasgow… is Bank Holiday weekend a wise choice?

Moan moan moan bloody moan… ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 25, 2016, 04:11:38 AM
I'd lay a modest wager they will be, given other overseas dates.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Loaf on January 25, 2016, 04:11:47 AM
I'll do my best to get to Bristol.

The Colston Hall's website says Al and Blondie are part of the band.

The tickets don't go on sale for 4 more days. Does anyone know if there are any presales?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 25, 2016, 04:15:56 AM
I'd lay a modest wager they will be, given other overseas dates.

Good. Al was a highlight of the last Brian show I saw, and I've never seen Blondie live. Very excited for this.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pacific Ocean Blue on January 25, 2016, 04:17:36 AM
I'll be getting tickets for Glasgow, will he literally just do Pet Sounds?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on January 25, 2016, 04:20:45 AM
I'll be getting tickets for Glasgow, will he literally just do Pet Sounds?

The last Pet Sounds tour here (2002!) started with a chunk of hits and deeper cuts, interval, Pet Sounds, encore.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 25, 2016, 04:37:21 AM
For the farewell UK tour, a good schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 25, 2016, 04:38:09 AM
I'll be getting tickets for Glasgow, will he literally just do Pet Sounds?

The last Pet Sounds tour here (2002!) started with a chunk of hits and deeper cuts, interval, Pet Sounds, encore.

Yep, and that's been the format of all his "full album" shows, whether Smile, That Lucky Old Sun, or Gershwin (though Gershwin started with the album and then had the hits, for some reason).
I'd guess about forty songs in total, a set like http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2015/sunrise-theater-fort-pierce-fl-7bf2fa28.html but with Pet Sounds as the second half. What I'm really hoping for is something like the June 2002 setlists -- http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2002/carling-apollo-hammersmith-london-england-1bdb8dc8.html , but I suspect the shows will be shorter and more hit-heavy than that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on January 25, 2016, 04:48:54 AM
Kudos to someone too for (seemingly) releasing all the dates simultaneously, instead of piecemeal. Very much appreciated.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on January 25, 2016, 05:32:08 AM
I've been to the Strathmore before (which is in North Bethesda Maryland, not DC but digress  :lol)

Small but GREAT acoustics. Perfect venue for Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on January 25, 2016, 06:08:25 AM
YESSS!!!!! WOO HOO!!!!!!

 Liverpool and Manchester for me! A really good set of dates and venues. I also second John when I say it's great all the info is out straight away.

 On the BW site it has VIP sections for USA and Japan. Do we think it'll be offered before Friday in Europe or not at all? I'd hate to buy  a good seat only to have passed up on  a reserved one with the VIP...




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 25, 2016, 06:57:38 AM
I'm a little surprised by no Chicago date. I wonder if Saturday, October 1, in Chicago may happen (in between Detroit and Minneapolis)???

Either way, I'm probably going to hit the September 30 show in Detroit. I'm debating doing the VIP, again.

Ultimate VIP Package is $499 and Includes:
A Premium Reserved Seat in the first 5 Rows
Access to a Meet & Greet with Brian Wilson
Individual Photo with Brian Wilson
Exclusive Soundcheck Experience
Early Entry into the venue
First Access Merch Shopping
One Signed 50th Anniversary Pet Sounds poster
One Signed lead sheet of 'God Only Knows'
One Commemorative VIP Laminate

I know that $500 is a lot of money, but I actually think the value is there. I'm curious why there is no mention of Al or Blondie for the meet & greet and photo??? That could actually be a deciding factor for me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on January 25, 2016, 07:23:16 AM
The nearest show is four hours away from me.  :(  I'm going to hold out and hope something closer is added.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on January 25, 2016, 07:40:37 AM
I'm excited on 2 fronts:  I was hoping to get to the UK in May for a dear friend's birthday anyway, and I know she won't be missing these shows, so I'm hoping (my husband's health and mine willing) to make some of those dates.

Ironically, I was also talking to my musician/Brian fan son-in-law just Sat evening (our belated family Holiday celebration) about Brian's tour this year and saying I kind of thought he'd make it to Kansas City and Omaha.  Don't ask me why - it's been a very long time - but now I have myself and family/friends attending here - probably both places (Omaha shows as Council Bluffs, IA- across the river).

It's all so wonderful.

Many thanks to Brian.

For those anywhere near Kansas City, the Muriel Kauffman Theater doesn't have a bad seat for sound and it is magnificent, as is the building itself and the dining venue there - one of the best views in the city.  I heard Randy Newman there last year with the KC Symphony, and it was sublime, as well as other concerts.  Don't miss it if you can make it at all - a perfect venue - seriously.  Or, if you want cheaper dining. Las Tulles across the street has inexpensive, great Mexican food and Margaritas, so you can't lose...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 07:49:06 AM
I guess I would go for San Francisco in October (don't like buying tickets for shows 8-9 months ahead of time; assuming the October dates go on sale this week), but it also looks like there's a big gap in the schedule at the beginning of July where I'd have to assume they'll be adding a Los Angeles area show. So I'm wondering if any other west coast dates will be filled in there. Hrmmmm.....

Any Bay Area folks have any intel on when the SF show might go on sale and/or any other shows in July or October.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on January 25, 2016, 07:49:54 AM
I'm a little surprised by no Chicago date. I wonder if Saturday, October 1, in Chicago may happen (in between Detroit and Minneapolis)???
I'm hoping for a July date at Ravinia.  I don't believe that Ravinia allows dates to be released until they put out their entire schedule in March (with few exceptions - I know the Tony Bennett/Lady Gaga shows last year were announced early).  

What surprises me - no SoCal dates.  But the site does say that more dates will be added.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 07:50:58 AM
Updated the tour schedule at the top of the thread as well, of course.

Not sure whether it's safe to say Al and Blondie will be at all gigs. The press release implies this I think, but then the schedule at the bottom of the press release has an asterisk for one show that features Blondie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 25, 2016, 07:59:58 AM
I'll do my best to get to Bristol.

The Colston Hall's website says Al and Blondie are part of the band.

The tickets don't go on sale for 4 more days. Does anyone know if there are any presales?

The press release says there will be, on Wednesday. There's a presale on the O2 website for the Manchester show, but I've not seen any other presales yet. Oddly the Liverpool show isn't listed by Ents24 and isn't showing on the venue website...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 08:06:38 AM
Does everyone really anticipate that all or most of the US dates will go on sale this week? There's little evidence online at all of many of these shows (which make sense since it was just announced), so I'm wondering if especially the September and October dates will go on sale before the end of January.

Really hoping they fill in any more gaps in the schedule as soon as possible. I don't want to snag October tickets if he hits somewhere closer in that big gap between June 20 and July 14 that currently only has two dates scheduled. I would have to assume a few more west coast dates will appear there, including LA and maybe San Diego. He also doesn't have some Midwest areas on there yet like Chicago.

I'm wondering if he's going to hit the Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA again in June or July. I'd prefer that to the Masonic in SF I think.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: elnombre on January 25, 2016, 08:11:33 AM
Will try to save for the Manchester show. Fingers crossed there'll still be good tix in a few weeks.

It's a shame the Leeds show from last year wasn't rescheduled but the trip will be worth it for a much nicer and smaller venue.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurfinNJ on January 25, 2016, 08:13:19 AM
I'm going to try an catch the show at Red Bank NJ - will be my first Brian Wilson show, I'm very excited.

I can't find ticket prices posted anywhere though, can anyone give me an idea of what General Admition prices might be, or what the cheap seats might go for?

Also, if anyone else is going to the NJ show and wants to meet up, PM me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 25, 2016, 08:18:59 AM
Does everyone really anticipate that all or most of the US dates will go on sale this week? There's little evidence online at all of many of these shows (which make sense since it was just announced), so I'm wondering if especially the September and October dates will go on sale before the end of January.

From http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/ :

BRIAN WILSON "PET SOUNDS 50TH ANNIVERSARY WORLD TOUR

• DATES TO BEGIN IN MARCH WITH U.S. TOUR KICKING OFF IN JUNE. ADDITIONAL SHOWS BEING ADDED.
• TICKET PRESALE STARTS JANUARY 27. OFFICIAL ONSALE JANUARY 29.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alex on January 25, 2016, 08:30:15 AM
I knew I shouldn't have waoted... Burlington is sold out, goddammit!  >:( :'(
A trip to Boston may be in order.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ninten on January 25, 2016, 08:36:20 AM
Nothing in Canada?  >:(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 08:49:02 AM
Does everyone really anticipate that all or most of the US dates will go on sale this week? There's little evidence online at all of many of these shows (which make sense since it was just announced), so I'm wondering if especially the September and October dates will go on sale before the end of January.

From http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/ :

BRIAN WILSON "PET SOUNDS 50TH ANNIVERSARY WORLD TOUR

• DATES TO BEGIN IN MARCH WITH U.S. TOUR KICKING OFF IN JUNE. ADDITIONAL SHOWS BEING ADDED.
• TICKET PRESALE STARTS JANUARY 27. OFFICIAL ONSALE JANUARY 29.

I did of course read that in the press release. I'm just curious if they're really going to have a pre-sale up for *every* date on that schedule only 48 hours from now. The shows are not all sold through the same ticketing agencies, etc. Different venues and ticketing websites do different forms of presales, etc.

The press release reads: "Ticket presales begin January 27 with the official onsale January 29 in most markets."

I would think maybe the most far-out dates in September and October might be the strongest candidates for taking a little longer to get up and ready for sales.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 25, 2016, 10:00:38 AM
FFS! First concert Auckland, AUSTRALIA

I may get banned, but those behind BW.com are idiots.

 :thud :thud :thud


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on January 25, 2016, 10:38:57 AM
Well, I see the usual trolls are out doing their jobs.  In the mean time, the rest of us will be booking our tickets and enjoying the shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GuyO on January 25, 2016, 10:49:01 AM
I'm really hoping for some more Mainland European shows (Holland, Belgium, Germany), otherwise I'll consider a flight to London, Newcastle or Bristol.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fall Breaks on January 25, 2016, 10:52:35 AM
Okay, somebody will raise the question so it might as well be me. The last concert with Pet Sounds performed in its entirety by its main creator will be in Lake Tahoe ... so, will Mike be there?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: coco1997 on January 25, 2016, 10:58:21 AM
Really disappointed by the lack of a Chicago show. Not really sure I want to travel 7 hours to Indiana or Iowa for this.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on January 25, 2016, 11:02:28 AM
I'll be going to The Sage, Gateshead in Newcastle, Australia...

Someone ought to tell 'em...  ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 25, 2016, 11:03:45 AM
Does everyone really anticipate that all or most of the US dates will go on sale this week? There's little evidence online at all of many of these shows (which make sense since it was just announced), so I'm wondering if especially the September and October dates will go on sale before the end of January.

From http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/ :

BRIAN WILSON "PET SOUNDS 50TH ANNIVERSARY WORLD TOUR

• DATES TO BEGIN IN MARCH WITH U.S. TOUR KICKING OFF IN JUNE. ADDITIONAL SHOWS BEING ADDED.
• TICKET PRESALE STARTS JANUARY 27. OFFICIAL ONSALE JANUARY 29.

I did of course read that in the press release. I'm just curious if they're really going to have a pre-sale up for *every* date on that schedule only 48 hours from now. The shows are not all sold through the same ticketing agencies, etc. Different venues and ticketing websites do different forms of presales, etc.

The press release reads: "Ticket presales begin January 27 with the official onsale January 29 in most markets."

I would think maybe the most far-out dates in September and October might be the strongest candidates for taking a little longer to get up and ready for sales.

I guess I just took the statement at face value--I certainly wasn't trying to be a smartass. I know I'm not excited about laying out a good amount of money for a concert at the end of September, but it isn't that unusual.

Okay, somebody will raise the question so it might as well be me. The last concert with Pet Sounds performed in its entirety by its main creator will be in Lake Tahoe ... so, will Mike be there?

I wouldn't be surprised to see this tour extended into November and December, especially if it proves to be a brisk seller. Also, guessing there is a good chance Mike & Bruce are on the road themselves at that time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 25, 2016, 11:13:14 AM
Well, I see the usual trolls are out doing their jobs.  In the mean time, the rest of us will be booking our tickets and enjoying the shows.

Is that directed at me and my 'idiots' comment?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 11:21:40 AM
Okay, somebody will raise the question so it might as well be me. The last concert with Pet Sounds performed in its entirety by its main creator will be in Lake Tahoe ... so, will Mike be there?

Mike has never appeared at one of Brian's shows, so I don't see why he would start appearing now. As others have said, he may well be on tour at that time. Even if he isn't, I don't see any reason to expect he'd show up at a Brian gig. I would imagine at some point in the last 17 years he has been free and able to go to a Brian gig somewhere, and he never has.

We also don't know for sure that the Tahoe date will be the last, as they may be adding more dates.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 11:23:51 AM
Really disappointed by the lack of a Chicago show. Not really sure I want to travel 7 hours to Indiana or Iowa for this.

There are a few large holes in the tour schedule. As previously mentioned, they only have two shows scheduled between June 20th and July 14th thus far. While those could easily just be down times, I would imagine more dates in key cities like Los Angeles and somewhere in the Chicago area are likely.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 11:32:42 AM
It may or may not be worth noting that, according to the tour press release, more than 70 dates are "confirmed."

My rough quick count shows 54 dates on the current schedule. Assuming "more than 70" constitutes at least 71, do we have as many as 17 more dates yet to be announced?

The press release mentions two regions not yet on the schedule: Israel and Portugal.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 25, 2016, 12:38:32 PM
FFS! First concert Auckland, AUSTRALIA

I may get banned, but those behind BW.com are idiots.

 :thud :thud :thud


Now corrected I see.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on January 25, 2016, 12:44:07 PM
Well, I see the usual trolls are out doing their jobs.  In the mean time, the rest of us will be booking our tickets and enjoying the shows.

Is that directed at me and my 'idiots' comment?

It wasn't directed an anyone specifically.  If you're a troll, it's directed at you, I guess.  SS is just very predictable.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 25, 2016, 12:51:20 PM
Not a troll but Auckland is my home town. Prior to todays announcement Auckland was not even listed on the tour page despite selling tickets for at least 3 months here. Even the 'World Tour' press release today isn't correct.

Concert stops include dates in Australia, Japan, United Kingdom, Spain, Israel, and Portugal followed by a full U.S. tour later this Summer and Fall.

also...

MAY 27 FRI
Royal Concert Hall
Glasgow, United Kingdom

MAY 29 SUN
Sage Gateshead
Newcastle, Australia

MAY 31 TUE
Philharmonic Hall
Liverpool, United Kingdom

Brian flying from the UK back to Australia then returning to the UK in the space of 3 days? Yeah right!




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 25, 2016, 03:01:41 PM
An LA Times article mentions:

No Southern California dates have been announced, but Wilson’s manager told The Times on Monday, “There will be a great one,” for which details are still being finalized.

I'm just very wary of getting October tickets if he's going to hit somewhere else in the Bay Area in June or July (or any other point for that matter).

Not a big fan of announcing most, but not all of the tour dates and immediately putting shows on sale that aren't happening for eight or nine months.

Seems it would have made more sense to announced the March-June Australia/Japan/Europe dates and put those on sale, and then wait to fill in the rest of the North American dates before putting them all on sale.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on January 25, 2016, 03:43:02 PM
Slightly surprised (but pleased) to see that not only is there a Minneapolis show after a couple years without, but that the primary local paper included mention of the show both in the arts section as a blog entry and the front-page online feed of top stories. The local angle (Bill Pohlad) was mentioned, so perhaps that helped.

Also interesting, the writer was the younger critic who often covers modern music, not the one who usually covers most of the nostalgia acts.

This is a few hundred bucks I'll have to spend. Might be the last time, after all--plus I wasn't able to see the first Pet Sounds tour (though it was one of the things that actually got me deep into BW/BBs).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on January 25, 2016, 04:32:38 PM
Really, no Irish show  :(

Sucks.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on January 25, 2016, 05:25:13 PM
Not a troll but Auckland is my home town. Prior to todays announcement Auckland was not even listed on the tour page despite selling tickets for at least 3 months here. Even the 'World Tour' press release today isn't correct.

Concert stops include dates in Australia, Japan, United Kingdom, Spain, Israel, and Portugal followed by a full U.S. tour later this Summer and Fall.

also...

MAY 27 FRI
Royal Concert Hall
Glasgow, United Kingdom

MAY 29 SUN
Sage Gateshead
Newcastle, Australia

MAY 31 TUE
Philharmonic Hall
Liverpool, United Kingdom

Brian flying from the UK back to Australia then returning to the UK in the space of 3 days? Yeah right!




Okay, I'm happy you're not a troll.  Good for you, living in Auckland.  I understand it's gorgeous.

I'm thinking it's pretty obvious that there was a typo.  The venue in Newcastle, England is clear, even though someone's computer's correct-type screwed up.  I know this upsets people, but let's just work with all the info we have.  It won't be that hard to validate.

He's clearly not advertising himself and his band as the C50 Beach Boys.  I think that's a plus for him.  Don't you?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 37!ws on January 25, 2016, 05:33:44 PM
Okay, somebody will raise the question so it might as well be me. The last concert with Pet Sounds performed in its entirety by its main creator will be in Lake Tahoe ... so, will Mike be there?

Call me skeptical, but in 2006 Brian said he was retiring Pet Sounds after that tour, saying it was time to move on. Just sayin'.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 25, 2016, 05:44:43 PM
Not a troll but Auckland is my home town. Prior to todays announcement Auckland was not even listed on the tour page despite selling tickets for at least 3 months here. Even the 'World Tour' press release today isn't correct.

Concert stops include dates in Australia, Japan, United Kingdom, Spain, Israel, and Portugal followed by a full U.S. tour later this Summer and Fall.

also...

MAY 27 FRI
Royal Concert Hall
Glasgow, United Kingdom

MAY 29 SUN
Sage Gateshead
Newcastle, Australia

MAY 31 TUE
Philharmonic Hall
Liverpool, United Kingdom

Brian flying from the UK back to Australia then returning to the UK in the space of 3 days? Yeah right!




Okay, I'm happy you're not a troll.  Good for you, living in Auckland.  I understand it's gorgeous.

I'm thinking it's pretty obvious that there was a typo.  The venue in Newcastle, England is clear, even though someone's computer's correct-type screwed up.  I know this upsets people, but let's just work with all the info we have.  It won't be that hard to validate.

He's clearly not advertising himself and his band as the C50 Beach Boys.  I think that's a plus for him.  Don't you?

It's all good Debbie. I have already clicked on one story today that links to Brian's tour page and it just seems sloppy. Brian was a perfectionist making Pet Sounds and the last hurrah should be accorded the same standard.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on January 25, 2016, 05:54:51 PM
An LA Times article mentions:

No Southern California dates have been announced, but Wilson’s manager told The Times on Monday, “There will be a great one,” for which details are still being finalized.

I'm just very wary of getting October tickets if he's going to hit somewhere else in the Bay Area in June or July (or any other point for that matter).

Not a big fan of announcing most, but not all of the tour dates and immediately putting shows on sale that aren't happening for eight or nine months.

Seems it would have made more sense to announced the March-June Australia/Japan/Europe dates and put those on sale, and then wait to fill in the rest of the North American dates before putting them all on sale.



I think what's already on the table - Pet Sounds & "GV" 50th anniversary shows, two autobiographies and a full-on TV special reunion in October* - is more than we could realistically ask for, greedy herberts that we are.

[* - OK, there's a chance I might not be being entirely honest about this bit...]

AGDs post in jest...but wouldn't it be nice to put 2 and 2 together and get 4 just once!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on January 26, 2016, 03:03:59 AM
A couple of questions - this is billed as the last time Brian will be playing Pet Sounds in its entirety in Europe, but is it the last time he'll come here does anyone know?

Also, I know we're all not sure what pre-sales are active tomorrow but are there any passwords going round for this yet? How on earth are we meant to know how to get pre-sale, or whether we qualify for one?!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 26, 2016, 03:39:13 AM
A couple of questions - this is billed as the last time Brian will be playing Pet Sounds in its entirety in Europe, but is it the last time he'll come here does anyone know?

Also, I know we're all not sure what pre-sales are active tomorrow but are there any passwords going round for this yet? How on earth are we meant to know how to get pre-sale, or whether we qualify for one?!

It was stated last year when they cancelled the UK tour that this year's tour would be his last.

There's a pre-sale for the Manchester show at https://priority.o2.co.uk/offers?type=all&category=tickets . To register, you need to have (or have access to) an O2 mobile phone, but there are no other requirements. I suspect other venues will have different presale deals.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 26, 2016, 08:29:09 AM
Well, as long as everything goes OK with the presale tomorrow, I'll be driving to Bethesda on Tuesday, September 20th. 

Can't wait. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on January 26, 2016, 10:19:30 AM
They added a June 8th Israel gig on Brian's website, so I've added that to the top post.

Probably not going to be able to make it to the October San Francisco gig (can't blow $250-$300 for two tickets knowing I probably can't make it), so hoping another Bay Area show might pop up in the June-July gap alongside the inevitable L.A.-area gigs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 26, 2016, 10:23:59 AM
Does anybody on here know how to obtain the presale codes for tomorrow morning?

For the NPP Tour, I was emailed a code just before the presale.  I think I'd signed up for it when I registered for the BW Forum. 

I put something on the BW Forum to confirm whether or not I would get a similar email but my, and other similar, questions are being unanswered. 

I just want to make sure I'm not shut out as the venue I'm shooting for is not a big one. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on January 26, 2016, 10:42:37 AM
Could not figure out how to access Pre-sale codes either. A lot of the seats were locked out if you did not have code.

But I got two tickets for the Horseshoe show in July!

Can't wait, this will be our first BW concert!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 26, 2016, 10:46:38 AM
Could not figure out how to access Pre-sale codes either. A lot of the seats were locked out if you did not have code.

But I got two tickets for the Horseshoe show in July!

Can't wait, this will be our first BW concert!

Wow, a Pet Sounds performance will be your first BW show.  Awesome. 

Enjoy!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: J.G. Dev on January 26, 2016, 11:16:25 AM
Does anybody on here know how to obtain the presale codes for tomorrow morning?

For the NPP Tour, I was emailed a code just before the presale.  I think I'd signed up for it when I registered for the BW Forum. 

I put something on the BW Forum to confirm whether or not I would get a similar email but my, and other similar, questions are being unanswered. 

I just want to make sure I'm not shut out as the venue I'm shooting for is not a big one. 

I have no idea if pre sale codes are different for each venue but the Portland Maine show was Pet Sounds


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on January 26, 2016, 11:32:25 AM
Really, no Irish show  :(

Sucks.

Yes, But what will you say on your 6000th Post, Shady?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 26, 2016, 11:37:17 AM
Does anybody on here know how to obtain the presale codes for tomorrow morning?

For the NPP Tour, I was emailed a code just before the presale.  I think I'd signed up for it when I registered for the BW Forum. 

I put something on the BW Forum to confirm whether or not I would get a similar email but my, and other similar, questions are being unanswered. 

I just want to make sure I'm not shut out as the venue I'm shooting for is not a big one. 


I have no idea if pre sale codes are different for each venue but the Portland Maine show was Pet Sounds

I just checked the website for the Strathmore in Bethesda, and there is no mention at all of a Brian Wilson concert. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on January 26, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
Could not figure out how to access Pre-sale codes either. A lot of the seats were locked out if you did not have code.

But I got two tickets for the Horseshoe show in July!

Can't wait, this will be our first BW concert!

Wow, a Pet Sounds performance will be your first BW show.  Awesome.  

Enjoy!!

Thanks! I wasn't aware of the tour until today, saw it on Bing and the tickets due to go on sale at 10:00am.
Really floored that she said don't worry about the price get the best seats you can.

I don't think I have fully taken in the import of today's good fortune.

It will hit me when I see the cc statement, no doubt.  ;)

BTW there are 4 Horseshoe Casinos on the Tour and we will be at the Elizabeth, IN one.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 26, 2016, 11:53:50 AM
Could not figure out how to access Pre-sale codes either. A lot of the seats were locked out if you did not have code.

But I got two tickets for the Horseshoe show in July!

Can't wait, this will be our first BW concert!

Wow, a Pet Sounds performance will be your first BW show.  Awesome.  

Enjoy!!

Thanks! I wasn't aware of the tour until today, saw it on Bing and the tickets due to go on sale at 10:00am.
Really floored that she said don't worry about the price get the best seats you can.

I don't think I have fully taken in the import of today's good fortune.

It will hit me when I see the cc statement, no doubt.  ;)

BTW there are 4 Horseshoe Casinos on the Tour and we will be at the Elizabeth, IN one.



When I saw Horseshoe, I was hoping he'd be at the one in Baltimore.  But I don't think our Horseshoe has a concert venue. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on January 26, 2016, 12:08:25 PM


He's clearly not advertising himself and his band as the C50 Beach Boys.  I think that's a plus for him.  Don't you?

And this has exactly what to do with this conversation?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fall Breaks on January 26, 2016, 12:50:54 PM
Could not figure out how to access Pre-sale codes either. A lot of the seats were locked out if you did not have code.

But I got two tickets for the Horseshoe show in July!

Can't wait, this will be our first BW concert!

Wow, a Pet Sounds performance will be your first BW show.  Awesome.  

Enjoy!!

Thanks! I wasn't aware of the tour until today, saw it on Bing and the tickets due to go on sale at 10:00am.
Really floored that she said don't worry about the price get the best seats you can.

I don't think I have fully taken in the import of today's good fortune.

It will hit me when I see the cc statement, no doubt.  ;)

BTW there are 4 Horseshoe Casinos on the Tour and we will be at the Elizabeth, IN one.


My first BW show was also a PS one, back in January 2002. Still keep the t-shirt I bought in everyday rotation. :-) Great show, great memories.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: BriansBack on January 26, 2016, 03:26:14 PM
Has anyone figured out what site is selling tickets to the 7/17 and 7/18 Boston Symphony Hall shows w/ The Boston Pops?  I assume they will go on presale tomorrow, but haven't even found a stub for the show on Ticketmaster or anything...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurfRiderHawaii on January 26, 2016, 11:22:51 PM
We are all lucky that Brian is giving us Pet Sounds live a final time. And making it back to the UK as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 02:09:39 AM
We are all lucky that Brian is giving us Pet Sounds live a final time. And making it back to the UK as well.

We are. Just got my ticket for the Manchester Apollo -- Row F. I'll be buying one for Liverpool on Friday, probably with the VIP option...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on January 27, 2016, 02:23:09 AM
We are all lucky that Brian is giving us Pet Sounds live a final time. And making it back to the UK as well.

We are. Just got my ticket for the Manchester Apollo -- Row F. I'll be buying one for Liverpool on Friday, probably with the VIP option...

Hi Andrew,
Did you get to see the price ranges for tickets? I'm wondering how much The Palladium shows will be and how much the VIP options are
Thanks


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 02:41:42 AM
We are all lucky that Brian is giving us Pet Sounds live a final time. And making it back to the UK as well.

We are. Just got my ticket for the Manchester Apollo -- Row F. I'll be buying one for Liverpool on Friday, probably with the VIP option...

Hi Andrew,
Did you get to see the price ranges for tickets? I'm wondering how much The Palladium shows will be and how much the VIP options are
Thanks

Only for the Manchester show. The tickets were, if I recall, forty-six to sixty-four pounds, but I imagine the London tickets will be more. VIP options aren't available til Friday, so no idea about their cost yet.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on January 27, 2016, 02:42:34 AM
Just got my tickets for manchester row G so purty pleased!  Waiting on VIP package details on Friday but I'm definitely going for it...May be our last chance


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on January 27, 2016, 02:50:11 AM
Going off the US VIP prices I'm thinking somewhere in the region of £300???


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 03:05:42 AM
Going off the US VIP prices I'm thinking somewhere in the region of £300???

There seem to be two tiers of VIP package -- one with everything at around three hundred quid, and one with just the soundcheck and a poster at around one hundred -- for most shows. I will only be purchasing the cheaper VIP option, if that's available. Having been lucky enough to meet Brian twice before, I can't see paying an extra two hundred for that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on January 27, 2016, 03:20:35 AM
We are all lucky that Brian is giving us Pet Sounds live a final time. And making it back to the UK as well.

We are. Just got my ticket for the Manchester Apollo -- Row F. I'll be buying one for Liverpool on Friday, probably with the VIP option...

Hi Andrew,
Did you get to see the price ranges for tickets? I'm wondering how much The Palladium shows will be and how much the VIP options are
Thanks

Only for the Manchester show. The tickets were, if I recall, forty-six to sixty-four pounds, but I imagine the London tickets will be more. VIP options aren't available til Friday, so no idea about their cost yet.
Thanks Andrew-I agree, the London shows will be more-just wanted a ball park figure. Not sure I can justify the VIP packages although the soundcheck one does sound promising!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on January 27, 2016, 03:22:35 AM
Going off the US VIP prices I'm thinking somewhere in the region of £300???

There seem to be two tiers of VIP package -- one with everything at around three hundred quid, and one with just the soundcheck and a poster at around one hundred -- for most shows. I will only be purchasing the cheaper VIP option, if that's available. Having been lucky enough to meet Brian twice before, I can't see paying an extra two hundred for that.

Yeh I noticed the 2 tiers, I've never had the pleasure of meeting him before so this will be a once in a lifetime for me... Only thing is I may have to sell by signed drum skin to fund it....decisions decisions!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 03:29:44 AM
Going off the US VIP prices I'm thinking somewhere in the region of £300???

There seem to be two tiers of VIP package -- one with everything at around three hundred quid, and one with just the soundcheck and a poster at around one hundred -- for most shows. I will only be purchasing the cheaper VIP option, if that's available. Having been lucky enough to meet Brian twice before, I can't see paying an extra two hundred for that.

Yeh I noticed the 2 tiers, I've never had the pleasure of meeting him before so this will be a once in a lifetime for me... Only thing is I may have to sell by signed drum skin to fund it....decisions decisions!

Frankly, I'd advise against it if meeting Brian, specifically, is the main draw for you. Brian's *band* are all lovely people (Probyn and Nelson in particular are two of the friendliest people you'll ever meet, but they're all nice), and Al the one time I met him was very nice, but Brian on both occasions I've met him (both at meet and greets before they started charging for them) was fairly unresponsive with everyone -- signing things and being polite, but clearly not paying attention and wanting to be elsewhere. I'm very glad I had the opportunity to meet him, and treasure the memory, but had it been something I'd paid a lot of money for, rather than something I was lucky enough to get thanks to the generosity of friends with contacts, I'd probably have been disappointed.

(That said, my most recent experience of meeting Brian was in 2004. Possibly those who've been to more recent meet-and-greets have had different experiences?)

If the draw is meeting Al or the band members, on the other hand, that would be a different matter.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on January 27, 2016, 03:35:36 AM
The signed lithograph and god only knows lead sheet also appeals... I've got visions of them in a cool display frame taking pride of place in my new extension!!  Obv the main draw for me though would be the chance of a meet and possibly a photo with him?? Not sure on the etiquette around photos at these things though if I'm honest...I've heard mixed things?..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on January 27, 2016, 03:41:00 AM
That plus Al is cool!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 03:49:21 AM
The signed lithograph and god only knows lead sheet also appeals... I've got visions of them in a cool display frame taking pride of place in my new extension!!  Obv the main draw for me though would be the chance of a meet and possibly a photo with him?? Not sure on the etiquette around photos at these things though if I'm honest...I've heard mixed things?..

I'm pretty sure the meet and greet package includes a photo taken with Brian -- and I think Al and Blondie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on January 27, 2016, 03:51:46 AM
The signed lithograph and god only knows lead sheet also appeals... I've got visions of them in a cool display frame taking pride of place in my new extension!!  Obv the main draw for me though would be the chance of a meet and possibly a photo with him?? Not sure on the etiquette around photos at these things though if I'm honest...I've heard mixed things?..

I'm pretty sure the meet and greet package includes a photo taken with Brian -- and I think Al and Blondie.

Interestingly on the US VIP packages it mentions the photo specifically but no mention of it on the worldwide VIP package page on the BW website.... Maybe it's just me reading too much into it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on January 27, 2016, 05:44:51 AM
How does the presale for the US VIP packages work? Do I need a password or can I just click the presale link on Brian's site?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KC41 on January 27, 2016, 07:03:32 AM
Can someone explain why in the list of tour dates posted  on Brianwilson.com,  for the July 23 show at the Horseshoe Casino it specifically includes an asterisk indicating that this show "features Blondie Chaplin" ?
Blondie is part of the entire tour. Why is this the only show that has Blondie specifically singled out ?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 27, 2016, 07:09:57 AM
Can someone explain why in the list of tour dates posted  on Brianwilson.com,  for the July 23 show at the Horseshoe Casino it specifically includes an asterisk indicating that this show "features Blondie Chaplin" ?
Blondie is part of the entire tour. Why is this the only show that has Blondie specifically singled out ?

It is very strange. I'm going with a typo. It is clearly stated on the tour page that Al and Blondie are featured at all shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on January 27, 2016, 07:21:56 AM
Any know of a Glasgow pre-sale please?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 27, 2016, 07:23:03 AM
I secured a front row seat for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. Last time I was stage left and right in front of Brian. This time I am stage right (though I tried for stage left), assuming a similar setup, I should be right in front of Al. Huge thanks to my wife, who rolled her eyes last night when I mentioned going to my third Brian Wilson show within an 18 month span.

I did some searching on the ticketmaster seat locator and it appears the rows 1 and 2 are set aside for the VIP soundcheck and meet & greet, which totals 44 tickets. Rows 3 and 4 are set aside for the VIP soundcheck only and total 42 tickets. I found this interesting since the top level VIP offer stipulates a ticket within the first 5 rows.

I'll bit interested to hear initial reports on how the meet & greets are conducted. I'm crossing my fingers to have at least one outside item signed (beyond the poster and sheet music), as I would like to complete my Rolling Stone cover already signed by Mike and Bruce. Also, it's not explicitly stated that Al and Blondie will participate, but I assume they will.

How did everyone else do?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 37!ws on January 27, 2016, 07:45:17 AM
Can someone explain why in the list of tour dates posted  on Brianwilson.com,  for the July 23 show at the Horseshoe Casino it specifically includes an asterisk indicating that this show "features Blondie Chaplin" ?
Blondie is part of the entire tour. Why is this the only show that has Blondie specifically singled out ?

Probably for the same reason the web site specifically said that the St. Charles, IL show in 2011 would include a performance of the Gershwin album in its entirety until just a few days before the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on January 27, 2016, 08:03:20 AM
I secured a front row seat for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. Last time I was stage left and right in front of Brian. This time I am stage right (though I tried for stage left), assuming a similar setup, I should be right in front of Al. Huge thanks to my wife, who rolled her eyes last night when I mentioned going to my third Brian Wilson show within an 18 month span.

I did some searching on the ticketmaster seat locator and it appears the rows 1 and 2 are set aside for the VIP soundcheck and meet & greet, which totals 44 tickets. Rows 3 and 4 are set aside for the VIP soundcheck only and total 42 tickets. I found this interesting since the top level VIP offer stipulates a ticket within the first 5 rows.

I'll bit interested to hear initial reports on how the meet & greets are conducted. I'm crossing my fingers to have at least one outside item signed (beyond the poster and sheet music), as I would like to complete my Rolling Stone cover already signed by Mike and Bruce. Also, it's not explicitly stated that Al and Blondie will participate, but I assume they will.

How did everyone else do?

I was gifted the soundcheck package (very generous!). For my venue, the first five rows (a/k/a the pit) was reserved for super duper VIP and the first two actual theatre seat rows were set aside for the soundcheck VIP. I went with the first row of theatre seats, right center, where presumably Brian will be facing. I'm actually concerned I'll be TOO close, as I don't want to experience the piano blockage of Brian's face, but it's totally worth the risk. I was dreading having to do the whole TicketBastard/LiveNation try-to-grab-tickets-the-moment-they-go-on-sale-and-see-if-you-can-actually-get-one. It's frustrating.

I love dealing with non-LiveNation venues that actually open up all of their seats (or most of them, anyway), and don't stagger on sale times, don't play games, and charge reasonable fees. Not sure why Ticketmaster can't do some version of the same.

Anyway, the eight month countdown begins. Super psyched!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 27, 2016, 08:04:05 AM
No information on the 9/20 show at the Strathmore in Bethesda. 

There's nothing on the Strathmore website about the show, and there's no link in BW's website about it. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 27, 2016, 08:11:33 AM
If you aren't doing one of the VIP packages for the Fox Theatre in Detroit, I got an e-mail this morning stating they have a  presale beginning Thursday morning at 10am and the password is ICONIC.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 37!ws on January 27, 2016, 10:00:29 AM
I secured a front row seat for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. Last time I was stage left and right in front of Brian. This time I am stage right (though I tried for stage left), assuming a similar setup, I should be right in front of Al. Huge thanks to my wife, who rolled her eyes last night when I mentioned going to my third Brian Wilson show within an 18 month span.

I was at stage right in New Buffalo. (My wife and I complimented you on your shirt. :)  ) Let me warn you: if the stage is as high up as it was in New Buffalo, this is what your view of Brian will look like:

(http://www.banana-and-louie.org/images/wilsoniswilson.jpg)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on January 27, 2016, 10:25:12 AM
I wish he would ditch the white grand piano. It would make it a lot easier to see him.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 27, 2016, 11:12:07 AM
I wish he would ditch the white grand piano. It would make it a lot easier to see him.

I had the same issue at Montgomery College in November.  Got a second row seat and saw the top of Brian's head for most of the show. 

I'd like to see him bring back the black keyboard he's used in the past. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on January 27, 2016, 11:34:00 AM
I had a seat in Row 2 at a show in Newcastle during the SMiLE shows.  Brian had the keyboard.  N fortunately all I could see were his legs as the Teleprompter he used to use was covering his face.  At least I knew what he looked liked as it was about the third or fourth show I'd been at on that tour in 2004!

Edit:  prices are now up for VIP packages on Brian's website.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on January 27, 2016, 11:44:16 AM
The Strathmore is a great choice for Brian...SO there on 9/20. I'll probably opt for a seat one tier up just so I don't play the 'Brian's bobbing head game' over the piano from the floor! :lol  Besides, after the 2nd row seats at Montgomery College (and a SUPER view of Brian), I'd like a more aerial approach to see the whole band, especially on a masterpiece such as Pet Sounds.

But alas, the Maryland show is the ONLY one that does NOT have a ticket link up yet.........


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on January 27, 2016, 12:24:24 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 12:49:18 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!

On the page for the Worldwide VIP tickets, it says "* This package does NOT include a ticket to the show. You must also have a ticket to show in order to purchase this package."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 27, 2016, 12:51:14 PM
The Strathmore is a great choice for Brian...SO there on 9/20. I'll probably opt for a seat one tier up just so I don't play the 'Brian's bobbing head game' over the piano from the floor! :lol  Besides, after the 2nd row seats at Montgomery College (and a SUPER view of Brian), I'd like a more aerial approach to see the whole band, especially on a masterpiece such as Pet Sounds.

But alas, the Maryland show is the ONLY one that does NOT have a ticket link up yet.........

I was informed, from a poster on the BW Forum who called the Strathmore, that tickets for the 9/20 don't go on sale until Friday, March 4th. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on January 27, 2016, 01:06:16 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!

On the page for the Worldwide VIP tickets, it says "* This package does NOT include a ticket to the show. You must also have a ticket to show in order to purchase this package."

Thanks Andrew.

I notice that too but it only says it after package 2 and says "this package" instead of "these packages" as it should if referring to both 1 and 2 packages.  Also there is a star in the text above referring to shows in NZ/AUS/JPN.

That's why I wanted clarification.  I suspect you need a ticket first but how does that work.  The US VIP includes front row seats but I don't think the UK does.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 01:28:00 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!

On the page for the Worldwide VIP tickets, it says "* This package does NOT include a ticket to the show. You must also have a ticket to show in order to purchase this package."

Thanks Andrew.

I notice that too but it only says it after package 2 and says "this package" instead of "these packages" as it should if referring to both 1 and 2 packages.  Also there is a star in the text above referring to shows in NZ/AUS/JPN.

That's why I wanted clarification.  I suspect you need a ticket first but how does that work.  Others have said the VIP includes front row seats but if I need to buy a ticket first how do I get those ones?

Clicking through to the pages to buy VIP tickets where they're on sale (the Japan and Australia dates), the sale pages all say that the ticket isn't included.

I *think* what happens is that you buy your normal ticket  and then the VIP packege gives you an upgrade to a reserved seat in the front few rows. So in other words I have a ticket for row F for Manchester. Were I to buy a VIP package for Manchester, I would have a seat in maybe row D or E, but I'd only be able to take that seat with my row F ticket.
Which makes no sense, because it would mean there would definitely be empty seats...
Is this how it works, anyone who's done this before?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on January 27, 2016, 01:37:13 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!

On the page for the Worldwide VIP tickets, it says "* This package does NOT include a ticket to the show. You must also have a ticket to show in order to purchase this package."

Thanks Andrew.

I notice that too but it only says it after package 2 and says "this package" instead of "these packages" as it should if referring to both 1 and 2 packages.  Also there is a star in the text above referring to shows in NZ/AUS/JPN.

That's why I wanted clarification.  I suspect you need a ticket first but how does that work.  Others have said the VIP includes front row seats but if I need to buy a ticket first how do I get those ones?

Clicking through to the pages to buy VIP tickets where they're on sale (the Japan and Australia dates), the sale pages all say that the ticket isn't included.

I *think* what happens is that you buy your normal ticket  and then the VIP packege gives you an upgrade to a reserved seat in the front few rows. So in other words I have a ticket for row F for Manchester. Were I to buy a VIP package for Manchester, I would have a seat in maybe row D or E, but I'd only be able to take that seat with my row F ticket.
Which makes no sense, because it would mean there would definitely be empty seats...
Is this how it works, anyone who's done this before?

And someone else could have had your Row F seat.  I don't understand it either.  Hopefully someone can explain it to us.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on January 27, 2016, 01:38:24 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!

On the page for the Worldwide VIP tickets, it says "* This package does NOT include a ticket to the show. You must also have a ticket to show in order to purchase this package."

Thanks Andrew.

I notice that too but it only says it after package 2 and says "this package" instead of "these packages" as it should if referring to both 1 and 2 packages.  Also there is a star in the text above referring to shows in NZ/AUS/JPN.

That's why I wanted clarification.  I suspect you need a ticket first but how does that work.  Others have said the VIP includes front row seats but if I need to buy a ticket first how do I get those ones?

Clicking through to the pages to buy VIP tickets where they're on sale (the Japan and Australia dates), the sale pages all say that the ticket isn't included.

I *think* what happens is that you buy your normal ticket  and then the VIP packege gives you an upgrade to a reserved seat in the front few rows. So in other words I have a ticket for row F for Manchester. Were I to buy a VIP package for Manchester, I would have a seat in maybe row D or E, but I'd only be able to take that seat with my row F ticket.
Which makes no sense, because it would mean there would definitely be empty seats...
Is this how it works, anyone who's done this before?

Hmm… makes sense to the vendor who's sold two products to one person - seats might not be filled but his wallet is.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 27, 2016, 02:09:56 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!

On the page for the Worldwide VIP tickets, it says "* This package does NOT include a ticket to the show. You must also have a ticket to show in order to purchase this package."

Thanks Andrew.

I notice that too but it only says it after package 2 and says "this package" instead of "these packages" as it should if referring to both 1 and 2 packages.  Also there is a star in the text above referring to shows in NZ/AUS/JPN.

That's why I wanted clarification.  I suspect you need a ticket first but how does that work.  Others have said the VIP includes front row seats but if I need to buy a ticket first how do I get those ones?

Clicking through to the pages to buy VIP tickets where they're on sale (the Japan and Australia dates), the sale pages all say that the ticket isn't included.

I *think* what happens is that you buy your normal ticket  and then the VIP packege gives you an upgrade to a reserved seat in the front few rows. So in other words I have a ticket for row F for Manchester. Were I to buy a VIP package for Manchester, I would have a seat in maybe row D or E, but I'd only be able to take that seat with my row F ticket.
Which makes no sense, because it would mean there would definitely be empty seats...
Is this how it works, anyone who's done this before?

Hmm… makes sense to the vendor who's sold two products to one person - seats might not be filled but his wallet is.

Yeah, but they could, instead, have sold the VIP thing, ticket included, for the price of the current ticket+VIP, and still had the row F ticket to sell to someone else.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on January 27, 2016, 03:41:23 PM
Can anyone confirm that if you buy a VIP package (1 or 2) a ticket for the show is included, or is it just additional to what you have already paid?  For example VIP1 is £275 but doesn't mention a ticket.  It doesn't say you need to buy one either!

On the page for the Worldwide VIP tickets, it says "* This package does NOT include a ticket to the show. You must also have a ticket to show in order to purchase this package."

Thanks Andrew.

I notice that too but it only says it after package 2 and says "this package" instead of "these packages" as it should if referring to both 1 and 2 packages.  Also there is a star in the text above referring to shows in NZ/AUS/JPN.

That's why I wanted clarification.  I suspect you need a ticket first but how does that work.  Others have said the VIP includes front row seats but if I need to buy a ticket first how do I get those ones?

Clicking through to the pages to buy VIP tickets where they're on sale (the Japan and Australia dates), the sale pages all say that the ticket isn't included.

I *think* what happens is that you buy your normal ticket  and then the VIP packege gives you an upgrade to a reserved seat in the front few rows. So in other words I have a ticket for row F for Manchester. Were I to buy a VIP package for Manchester, I would have a seat in maybe row D or E, but I'd only be able to take that seat with my row F ticket.
Which makes no sense, because it would mean there would definitely be empty seats...
Is this how it works, anyone who's done this before?

Hmm… makes sense to the vendor who's sold two products to one person - seats might not be filled but his wallet is.

Yeah, but they could, instead, have sold the VIP thing, ticket included, for the price of the current ticket+VIP, and still had the row F ticket to sell to someone else.

Cheers Andrew, that's what I meant!  :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on January 27, 2016, 06:42:54 PM
I secured a front row seat for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. Last time I was stage left and right in front of Brian. This time I am stage right (though I tried for stage left), assuming a similar setup, I should be right in front of Al. Huge thanks to my wife, who rolled her eyes last night when I mentioned going to my third Brian Wilson show within an 18 month span.

I was at stage right in New Buffalo. (My wife and I complimented you on your shirt. :)  ) Let me warn you: if the stage is as high up as it was in New Buffalo, this is what your view of Brian will look like:

(http://www.banana-and-louie.org/images/wilsoniswilson.jpg)



SOON  :o


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Don't Back Down on January 27, 2016, 07:11:01 PM
How does the internet presale work? Do we get a code from the Brian Wilson Fan Club email list?
(Sorry if this has already been asked)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on January 27, 2016, 09:08:47 PM
Which show? Seems like the venues themselves are sending out the codes.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 28, 2016, 12:35:04 AM
How does the internet presale work? Do we get a code from the Brian Wilson Fan Club email list?
(Sorry if this has already been asked)

The presales are working differently for each venue. For example the Manchester O2 Apollo presale was for only those people with a mobile phone on the O2 network -- you had to sign up on O2's website and they'd text you a registration code -- and started at 10AM yesterday. On the other hand the Liverpool Philharmonic's presale was only for venue members -- people who've paid £32 a year to get priority access for shows -- and started at 5PM yesterday.
Brian's website seems to be listing these at the top of the page now, but only as they find out about them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on January 28, 2016, 01:05:30 AM
I subscribed to the Palladium newsletter and they've just notified us that there'll be no pre sale today and that all tickets would go on sale tomorrow. Annoying as I had got up early to make sure I wasn't driving when they came online! It will be a free for all tomorrow.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on January 28, 2016, 04:24:29 AM
So, based on the email I received, the idea is existing ticket holders get the chance to upgrade to a VIP before the VIP packages are made available to the great unwashed (who in Melbourne are myriad).

"As an existing ticket holder you have the first opportunity to purchase either of these strictly limited upgrades. The VIP Upgrade Packages will be available to the general public on Friday 29th January 2016 at 9:00am (AEDT)."

There are 2 offerings for "my" gig:

Royale with Cheese:

    4pm start
    On-site Concierge
    First Access Merch Shopping
    Exclusive Soundcheck Experience
    Meet & Greet with Brian Wilson
    One Signed, 50th Anniversary Pet Sounds Lithograph (numbered/limited print)
    One Signed, lead sheet of "God Only Knows"
    One VIP Commemorative laminate

or
Sound check pack:

    4pm start           
    On-site Concierge           
    First Access Merch Shopping
    Exclusive Soundcheck Experience
    50th Anniversary Pet Sounds Lithograph (numbered/limited print NOT SIGNED)
    1 Brian Wilson Soundcheck Rubber Wristband

Whilst the lure of a rubber wristband is almost irresistible, I must be good and stick with my bog-standard row 4 centre seats for now. 
 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Don't Back Down on January 28, 2016, 05:26:44 AM
Which show? Seems like the venues themselves are sending out the codes.

The Ryman Auditorium show


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 28, 2016, 05:52:11 AM
I subscribed to the Palladium newsletter and they've just notified us that there'll be no pre sale today and that all tickets would go on sale tomorrow. Annoying as I had got up early to make sure I wasn't driving when they came online! It will be a free for all tomorrow.

"circumstances beyond our control"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on January 28, 2016, 07:06:29 AM
Which show? Seems like the venues themselves are sending out the codes.

The Ryman Auditorium show

I believe the password is PETSOUNDS


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Don't Back Down on January 28, 2016, 07:22:18 AM
Which show? Seems like the venues themselves are sending out the codes.

The Ryman Auditorium show

I believe the password is PETSOUNDS

Awesome, thank you! How do I search for tickets that aren't VIP/Soundcheck packages?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on January 28, 2016, 07:25:22 AM
The non-VIP tickets go on sale at 10AM. You and I along with many others will be competing!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on January 28, 2016, 08:39:17 AM
Q: If your tickets cost are equal or greater than the VIP level 2 ($250) does that mean you can attend the soundcheck ? Havent been to a show in a long awhile all these options are not familiar to us.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 28, 2016, 10:32:59 AM
Q: If your tickets cost are equal or greater than the VIP level 2 ($250) does that mean you can attend the soundcheck ? Havent been to a show in a long awhile all these options are not familiar to us.

No. You have to buy the VIP package separately from your tickets.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on January 28, 2016, 11:10:03 AM
Ok thanks, Andrew

We can just hang out in Starbux or something until they open the doors.
Or maybe hit some jackpots on the slots... yeah right!

I hope the stage is low enough to get a better perspective than the pic posted.

Brian should wear his keyboard, use one of those strap-on jobs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on January 28, 2016, 11:19:02 AM
Things have certainly changed

In my younger days we just walked into Sound Warehouse to buy tix or purchased GA at the gate.

Of course the concerts were $6.50-$8.00 to see acts like Zappa, Tull or Led Zeppelin.

Bands like Nektar were $5.00 and went to tons of Free or $1.00 shows to see acts like Black Oak Arkansas and Head East.

I just spent more yesterday than ALL the dozens of fantastic bands of the Seventies.

And they say the Jimmy Carter years were bad ones.... :p ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on January 28, 2016, 12:56:23 PM
I secured a front row seat for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. Last time I was stage left and right in front of Brian. This time I am stage right (though I tried for stage left), assuming a similar setup, I should be right in front of Al. Huge thanks to my wife, who rolled her eyes last night when I mentioned going to my third Brian Wilson show within an 18 month span.

How did everyone else do?

I got front row Detroit as well..  But by Brian.  Which excites me to no end!
I'm so nervous about meeting him, even though I know it will be awkward.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on January 28, 2016, 01:04:08 PM
Anyone else gonna try for the tier 1 VIP package in manchester? I sure am!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on January 28, 2016, 02:26:30 PM
I secured a front row seat for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. Last time I was stage left and right in front of Brian. This time I am stage right (though I tried for stage left), assuming a similar setup, I should be right in front of Al. Huge thanks to my wife, who rolled her eyes last night when I mentioned going to my third Brian Wilson show within an 18 month span.

How did everyone else do?

I got front row Detroit as well..  But by Brian.  Which excites me to no end!
I'm so nervous about meeting him, even though I know it will be awkward.
I'm sure it will be awkward, but am also sure it will be filled with meaning for you. Have a great time.   :)





Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on January 28, 2016, 03:05:43 PM
I think I've finally worked this out!  There are no mention of upgrades for VIP tickets outside of  the US.

Basically, you buy a ticket. Let's say Row F.  You then purchase a VIP package.  You go to the soundcheck etc but still go to the Row F seat when the show starts.

No upgraded seats meaning original seat not left unsold/empty!  ;D

No reserved seats means anyone can get in first and get front row etc.

Edit:  The US packages seem to be better value for money as premium seats are included, as well as a photo.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: chrs_mrgn on January 28, 2016, 09:38:53 PM
I really hope that there was only a reserved amount of tickets available for the pre-sale. I really want to go to the show in Seattle but it says no two tickets are available next to each other. :(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on January 29, 2016, 01:02:38 AM
Just to 100% confirm before the rush gives me a heart attack, if you want VIP tickets for the UK shows you have to buy a standard ticket first, correct?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on January 29, 2016, 02:11:26 AM
The Palladium booking site isn't working for me!!!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on January 29, 2016, 02:19:51 AM
And ticket master seems to have none available already :/

How's others getting on.  I'm at work and have to go out in a sec as well dammit


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on January 29, 2016, 02:26:34 AM
The Palladium booking site isn't working for me!!!!!


Yeah, their site failed utterly.  Try Seetickets or Stargreen.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 29, 2016, 02:48:26 AM
The Palladium booking site isn't working for me!!!!!


Try calling.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on January 29, 2016, 03:01:42 AM
Anyone else gonna try for the tier 1 VIP package in manchester? I sure am!

I've got it buddy! Will I see you there?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 29, 2016, 03:14:21 AM
Anyone  from here got tickets for the 21st, say hello and it will be my pleasure to be condescending and rude to you. Gotta keep the image intact.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on January 29, 2016, 03:19:41 AM
Right, my head is spinning. I am so so happy yet poor. Nice of the tickets to go on sale on my payday  ;D

 I've got a VIP meet and Greet Tier 1 for 24th in Manchester

 also

 Normal tickets for Nottingham on the 1st.

 Happy to meet up with anyone for a pint pre these dates if anyone so fancies.

 If anyone needs me I'll be eating beans on toast by candelight


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on January 29, 2016, 03:39:18 AM
Well, not only did my girlfriend become a member of Bristol Colston Hall yesterday just to buy tickets for my birthday but they have just come through the letterbox-Stalls Row F

Just sorting out Palladium tickets, hope BW adds the Sunday and maybe get the VIP package to boot



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 29, 2016, 03:45:27 AM
Right, my head is spinning. I am so so happy yet poor. Nice of the tickets to go on sale on my payday  ;D

 I've got a VIP meet and Greet Tier 1 for 24th in Manchester

 also

 Normal tickets for Nottingham on the 1st.

 Happy to meet up with anyone for a pint pre these dates if anyone so fancies.

 If anyone needs me I'll be eating beans on toast by candelight

I've got Tier 2 (no meet and greet, but soundcheck) for Manchester, and a standard ticket for Liverpool.
Generally before Manchester Apollo shows, people meet up for drinks at the Apsley Cottage pub, just by the stage door (the brewery is Wilson's, aptly enough). If anyone wants to know who I am to avoid me there, I'm the one in my icon who isn't MIke or Bruce.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on January 29, 2016, 04:03:38 AM
Got my ticket! :) It was a bit of a nightmare getting it but very good seats so can't complain! Now I am massively umm-ing and ahh-ing about whether to get VIP tickets. From other posters' own experiences are these worth the £££££? The soundcheck is tempting and isn't 'too' dear but the meet and greet is always going to be wonderful but at £275? Eek.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on January 29, 2016, 04:19:49 AM
Right, my head is spinning. I am so so happy yet poor. Nice of the tickets to go on sale on my payday  ;D

 I've got a VIP meet and Greet Tier 1 for 24th in Manchester

 also

 Normal tickets for Nottingham on the 1st.

 Happy to meet up with anyone for a pint pre these dates if anyone so fancies.

 If anyone needs me I'll be eating beans on toast by candelight

I've got Tier 2 (no meet and greet, but soundcheck) for Manchester, and a standard ticket for Liverpool.
Generally before Manchester Apollo shows, people meet up for drinks at the Apsley Cottage pub, just by the stage door (the brewery is Wilson's, aptly enough). If anyone wants to know who I am to avoid me there, I'm the one in my icon who isn't MIke or Bruce.

That sounds like a plan Andrew. When I first joined the board, your kind PM convinced me to attend Mikes show and I had a wonderful evening. I'll be there and so will a pint with your name on it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on January 29, 2016, 04:53:57 AM
Thanks Andrew and Fire Wind.  The site kicked into gear at the final moment so got a pair for the Friday.  Found 3 pairs had found their way into my basket in various locations once I finally got there.  Commotion indeed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: BiNNS on January 29, 2016, 06:07:42 AM
So tier 1 $500 packages (non U.S.) DON'T include a premium reserved seat in the first 5 rows and a photo with Brian. Am I understanding this correctly? I'm waiting to see if they add a Canadian date to the tour. Preferably Toronto.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on January 29, 2016, 06:21:32 AM
So tier 1 $500 packages (non U.S.) DON'T include a premium reserved seat in the first 5 rows and a photo with Brian. Am I understanding this correctly? I'm waiting to see if they add a Canadian date to the tour. Preferably Toronto.

They don't include a premium reserved seat. They say nothing about photos one way or another, but I've never heard of a meet and greet where photos weren't at least a possibility.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: BiNNS on January 29, 2016, 06:31:25 AM
I'm just a bit confused because on the U.S. package it states, "Individual photo with Brian", whereas the non U.S. package makes no mention of a photo, just a meet and greet.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on January 29, 2016, 08:53:02 AM
I'd like to take the opportunity to express my deep hatred for ticket-buying bots, resellers, Ticketmaster, and everything else related to major-venue ticket sales. For the first time in my life, I was really going to be on the ball about getting tickets. Most bands I like don't play major venues, or attract all that much attention, so it hasn't ever been an issue. I don't think I've ever bothered to even get tix on the first day, much less immediately, and I've very rarely even had issues getting the seats I'd want, much less any seats at all.

My goal for Pet Sounds in Minneapolis was 4 tickets, floor level, as good seats as I could get (but not VIP stuff, which I'm not into). Logged in at 10 a.m., ready to go, I selected four great seats ... only to be told they'd been purchased. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Probably half a dozen times. At this point--maybe 10:05--the seat chart showed almost no decent seats available. I tried the best available option, while simultaneously checking StubHub, where I found plenty of seats, mostly at about double or more the list price. Minneapolis is a good music town, but there is no way in the world that many people were that amped up to buy this tickets that quickly during a workday. (I worked from home specifically to be able to get tickets, actually.) No, it's bots and resellers. They suck. Price gouging, plain and simple.

I bought two tickets in the balcony--good seats in the balcony, at least--for about the price of the four, front, floor-level seats I had in mind. I'm glad I'll get the chance to see Pet Sounds, as I didn't on previous tours. But I'm also glad I don't have to bother with this kind of bullshit more often.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on January 29, 2016, 09:32:34 AM
I'd like to take the opportunity to express my deep hatred for ticket-buying bots, resellers, Ticketmaster, and everything else related to major-venue ticket sales. For the first time in my life, I was really going to be on the ball about getting tickets. Most bands I like don't play major venues, or attract all that much attention, so it hasn't ever been an issue. I don't think I've ever bothered to even get tix on the first day, much less immediately, and I've very rarely even had issues getting the seats I'd want, much less any seats at all.

My goal for Pet Sounds in Minneapolis was 4 tickets, floor level, as good seats as I could get (but not VIP stuff, which I'm not into). Logged in at 10 a.m., ready to go, I selected four great seats ... only to be told they'd been purchased. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Probably half a dozen times. At this point--maybe 10:05--the seat chart showed almost no decent seats available. I tried the best available option, while simultaneously checking StubHub, where I found plenty of seats, mostly at about double or more the list price. Minneapolis is a good music town, but there is no way in the world that many people were that amped up to buy this tickets that quickly during a workday. (I worked from home specifically to be able to get tickets, actually.) No, it's bots and resellers. They suck. Price gouging, plain and simple.

I bought two tickets in the balcony--good seats in the balcony, at least--for about the price of the four, front, floor-level seats I had in mind. I'm glad I'll get the chance to see Pet Sounds, as I didn't on previous tours. But I'm also glad I don't have to bother with this kind of bullshit more often.

Captain,

They were talking about this very issue when I was listening to local sports talk radio the other day.  Major sports leagues such as the NFL and MLB, are actually sponsored by brokers......let's call a spade a spade, they're SCALPERS.   This is a troubling trend, as I'm sure these scalping websites are able to purchase tickets well before they go on sale to the public, then sell them at an inflated rate. 

So, the sports leagues, venues, etc still make their money.  The scalping sites make a huge profit.  And fans get to suffer. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 29, 2016, 09:40:11 AM
I'd like to take the opportunity to express my deep hatred for ticket-buying bots, resellers, Ticketmaster, and everything else related to major-venue ticket sales. For the first time in my life, I was really going to be on the ball about getting tickets. Most bands I like don't play major venues, or attract all that much attention, so it hasn't ever been an issue. I don't think I've ever bothered to even get tix on the first day, much less immediately, and I've very rarely even had issues getting the seats I'd want, much less any seats at all.

My goal for Pet Sounds in Minneapolis was 4 tickets, floor level, as good seats as I could get (but not VIP stuff, which I'm not into). Logged in at 10 a.m., ready to go, I selected four great seats ... only to be told they'd been purchased. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Probably half a dozen times. At this point--maybe 10:05--the seat chart showed almost no decent seats available. I tried the best available option, while simultaneously checking StubHub, where I found plenty of seats, mostly at about double or more the list price. Minneapolis is a good music town, but there is no way in the world that many people were that amped up to buy this tickets that quickly during a workday. (I worked from home specifically to be able to get tickets, actually.) No, it's bots and resellers. They suck. Price gouging, plain and simple.

I bought two tickets in the balcony--good seats in the balcony, at least--for about the price of the four, front, floor-level seats I had in mind. I'm glad I'll get the chance to see Pet Sounds, as I didn't on previous tours. But I'm also glad I don't have to bother with this kind of bullshit more often.

If it's any consolation, I saw BW twice last year, and really enjoyed the perspective from the balcony. He has so many musicians on stage, it gives you a wonderful sense of everything that's going on. Yes, the resale market sucks.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on January 29, 2016, 09:42:03 AM
I'd like to take the opportunity to express my deep hatred for ticket-buying bots, resellers, Ticketmaster, and everything else related to major-venue ticket sales. For the first time in my life, I was really going to be on the ball about getting tickets. Most bands I like don't play major venues, or attract all that much attention, so it hasn't ever been an issue. I don't think I've ever bothered to even get tix on the first day, much less immediately, and I've very rarely even had issues getting the seats I'd want, much less any seats at all.

My goal for Pet Sounds in Minneapolis was 4 tickets, floor level, as good seats as I could get (but not VIP stuff, which I'm not into). Logged in at 10 a.m., ready to go, I selected four great seats ... only to be told they'd been purchased. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Four more. Same. Probably half a dozen times. At this point--maybe 10:05--the seat chart showed almost no decent seats available. I tried the best available option, while simultaneously checking StubHub, where I found plenty of seats, mostly at about double or more the list price. Minneapolis is a good music town, but there is no way in the world that many people were that amped up to buy this tickets that quickly during a workday. (I worked from home specifically to be able to get tickets, actually.) No, it's bots and resellers. They suck. Price gouging, plain and simple.

I bought two tickets in the balcony--good seats in the balcony, at least--for about the price of the four, front, floor-level seats I had in mind. I'm glad I'll get the chance to see Pet Sounds, as I didn't on previous tours. But I'm also glad I don't have to bother with this kind of bullshit more often.

If it's any consolation, I saw BW twice last year, and really enjoyed the perspective from the balcony. He has so many musicians on stage, it gives you a wonderful sense of everything that's going on. Yes, the resale market sucks.

Oh, I know the view and sound will still be great: I saw the TLOS show I think in that same venue from the balcony. Just was hoping--with this quite possibly my last BW show (since he's getting up there in years and doesn't stop here all the time even when he does tour)--to take a few more people and really make an experience of it. Oh well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on January 29, 2016, 10:28:32 AM
ABC news and NBC news both ran stories last night about how legal scalping has gotten out of hand, leaving many fans in the lurch, so the issue is now getting national attention.

Brian hasn't announced a show in my area yet, but I was able to score a couple of good tickets to see Alabama Shakes by calling my local venue's box office right as tix went on sale. I've generally had much better luck getting tickets by dealing with a live person than by using a computer. Your mileage may vary.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on January 29, 2016, 11:03:55 AM
I secured a front row seat for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. Last time I was stage left and right in front of Brian. This time I am stage right (though I tried for stage left), assuming a similar setup, I should be right in front of Al. Huge thanks to my wife, who rolled her eyes last night when I mentioned going to my third Brian Wilson show within an 18 month span.

How did everyone else do?

I got front row Detroit as well..  But by Brian.  Which excites me to no end!
I'm so nervous about meeting him, even though I know it will be awkward.

Congrats, I kept getting locked out of the stage left tickets I clicked on, so I tried stage right. I know my view of Brian will be obstructed during the show, but I'll make up for that in the soundcheck. If you set proper expectations for the meet & greet, you will do fine. Don't expect Brian to say much, if anything. I found his assistant (Paul?) a little rude (he would probably say protective)--he emphasized limited time, being efficient, following the rules, etc.

I know others might disagree, but I really feel you get your moneys worth. Would be happy to discuss my reasoning via PM with anyone.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on January 29, 2016, 11:11:34 AM
Well, that was fun this morning.

Managed to get a fairly decent seat for Bristol Colston Hall, but I swear it took way less than an hour to sell out.
Also got a ticket for Cardiff St David's (nice small venue) BUT why not the Motorpoint Arena which Brian has usually always filled.

PS I am not any of the bods in Andrew Hickeys icon  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on January 29, 2016, 11:12:31 AM
Glasgow here I come!!!!!  ;D ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on January 29, 2016, 11:32:13 AM
I will be attending the May 21st show in London with my father. He has never heard any BW material live. It's gonna be a blast. Maybe we run into some SmileySmiler or other there. :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on January 29, 2016, 12:50:44 PM
Thank you for the note about the March 4th onsale for MD show, KDS!  :rock


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Tony S on January 29, 2016, 01:30:31 PM
Very pleased that I purchased my ticket for the Basie in NJ during pre sale on Wednesday. I picked up 8th row center, and when I checked today, the show is close to selling out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 29, 2016, 01:46:09 PM
I will be attending the May 1st show in London with my father. He has never heard any BW material live. It's gonna be a blast. Maybe we run into some SmileySmiler or other there. :)

If you turn up on May first, you're in for quite a wait.  :)

However, if you mean the 21st, I'd be delighted to make your acquaintance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 29, 2016, 01:48:40 PM
Managed to get a fairly decent seat for Bristol Colston Hall, but I swear it took way less than an hour to sell out.
Also got a ticket for Cardiff St David's (nice small venue) BUT why not the Motorpoint Arena which Brian has usually always filled.

Given he's never played Wales before, I'd seriously doubt he's always sold out at the Motorpoint.

Ah, do I detect a tongue planted in that cheek ?  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on January 29, 2016, 01:50:08 PM
Got tickets for Glasgow but a looooong way back. From the RCH's own website. Ticketmaster had none which I suspect just means they've either sold them to one of their own resale sites to sell at a mark-up or they're going to release them later once the sh*t seats have sold. Ticketmaster is one scummy outfit for sure. And that's based on my own foundless assumptions so it must be true.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: PS on January 29, 2016, 09:31:31 PM
One last round, after nearly a lifetime of devoted listening.

Second Row Center, VIP Tier 1, Paramount, Denver, October 4.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on January 30, 2016, 02:00:34 AM
Got tickets for Glasgow but a looooong way back. From the RCH's own website. Ticketmaster had none which I suspect just means they've either sold them to one of their own resale sites to sell at a mark-up or they're going to release them later once the sh*t seats have sold. Ticketmaster is one scummy outfit for sure. And that's based on my own foundless assumptions so it must be true.

I agree John, it's a disgrace.  There should have been a pre-sale for genuine fans.  I' m going to the Glasgow and Edinburgh shows.  Tickets were practically sold out in the stalls 15 mins after going on sale.  The Edinburgh show I phoned and got Row M (best I could do at the time).  5 hours later from See Tickets I could get Row F.  If anyone wants a Row M ticket let me know!  Will be a good view of Brian and plenty leg room.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on January 30, 2016, 09:56:32 AM
I will be attending the May 1st show in London with my father. He has never heard any BW material live. It's gonna be a blast. Maybe we run into some SmileySmiler or other there. :)

If you turn up on May first, you're in for quite a wait.  :)

However, if you mean the 21st, I'd be delighted to make your acquaintance.
Typo corrected!

I'll keep that in mind!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on January 30, 2016, 10:22:25 AM
I'll be the dude who looks like a poor man's version of Jeff Bridges. See ya there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on January 30, 2016, 10:24:20 AM
I will be attending the May 1st show in London with my father. He has never heard any BW material live. It's gonna be a blast. Maybe we run into some SmileySmiler or other there. :)

If you turn up on May first, you're in for quite a wait.  :)

However, if you mean the 21st, I'd be delighted to make your acquaintance.
Typo corrected!

I'll keep that in mind!

Hey now, that hits close to home. While I am known (and mocked) for my punctuality by friends, I once surprised and REALLY annoyed them by getting us to a Prince concert about 25 hours early...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: BBLB on January 30, 2016, 12:36:11 PM
I've been to the Strathmore before (which is in North Bethesda Maryland, not DC but digress  :lol)

Small but GREAT acoustics. Perfect venue for Brian.

Oh yeah!  Saw Mike and Bruce there a few years ago in a show that included several cuts from the Christmas album that I never thought I would ever hear live.

Got my ticket for the September show.  Definitely hoping for Blondie to be there as he missed the Brian/Beck show at the Warner in DC.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GuyO on January 31, 2016, 01:21:15 AM
I have seats for me and my girfriend for the London show on the 21st. Waaaaay back in row I on the second balcony, but luckily two of the last 10 seats left available.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Don't Back Down on January 31, 2016, 01:02:29 PM
The non-VIP tickets go on sale at 10AM. You and I along with many others will be competing!

Got my tickets ordered for Nashville and I can't wait!! :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on January 31, 2016, 11:21:15 PM
Got tix for the 4/15 show in Osaka--very excited!  I'll be curious to see what else gets played besides Pet Sounds of course. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on February 01, 2016, 05:21:33 AM
I've been to the Strathmore before (which is in North Bethesda Maryland, not DC but digress  :lol)

Small but GREAT acoustics. Perfect venue for Brian.

Oh yeah!  Saw Mike and Bruce there a few years ago in a show that included several cuts from the Christmas album that I never thought I would ever hear live.

Got my ticket for the September show.  Definitely hoping for Blondie to be there as he missed the Brian/Beck show at the Warner in DC.

Did you get tickets for the Strathmore?  I thought they weren't on sale until March 4th. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on February 01, 2016, 06:00:38 AM
Is it probably quite likely that the meet and greet (at least in the UK) will just be like the 50th? Where you literally just stand behind them and have a photo taken? Will it even include Al or Blondie?

I am so tempted to get one of the VIP packages, but can't decide which. If they were much cheaper I'd go for the meet and greet without hesitation!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 37!ws on February 01, 2016, 10:14:23 AM
Got my tickets ordered for Nashville and I can't wait!! :)

See you there. :)  (The Mrs. got us tickets to that show in case they didn't announce a show for our neck of the woods...but word on the street is they WILL be soon. We hope it's Ravinia!)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Don't Back Down on February 01, 2016, 11:40:00 AM
Got my tickets ordered for Nashville and I can't wait!! :)

See you there. :)  (The Mrs. got us tickets to that show in case they didn't announce a show for our neck of the woods...but word on the street is they WILL be soon. We hope it's Ravinia!)

Awesome! I look forward to it :) (Very cool, good luck on a closer show!)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: alf wiedersehen on February 01, 2016, 12:42:09 PM
Has there been any news of the supposed Los Angeles show?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on February 01, 2016, 01:26:03 PM
Anyone here a member of State Theatre (Easton, PA) club that lets you get tickets before the general public?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on February 01, 2016, 01:31:09 PM
Is it probably quite likely that the meet and greet (at least in the UK) will just be like the 50th? Where you literally just stand behind them and have a photo taken? Will it even include Al or Blondie?

I am so tempted to get one of the VIP packages, but can't decide which. If they were much cheaper I'd go for the meet and greet without hesitation!

If I knew a photo was involved and Al and Blondie were included I'd go for the Meet and Greet package (UK).  I don't so i don't want to risk it.  I'm very fortunate to have met Brian 4 times (and would love to do so again) but it's a lot of money.  I'm also going to two shows and taking my wife and 7 year old to her first concert.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on February 01, 2016, 09:18:24 PM
The info on the Japan shows indicates that both Al and Blondie will be there...  don't know about other countries tho! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on February 01, 2016, 11:34:15 PM
The info on the Japan shows indicates that both Al and Blondie will be there...  don't know about other countries tho! 

UK data shown here:

http://www.withguitars.com/brian-wilson-announces-2016-pet-sounds-50th-anniversary-world-tour-dates/

Indicates Al and Blondie also.

Sorry I can't link direct to the poster shown as am posting via my phone which can't pic up the pic's URL…


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on February 01, 2016, 11:44:41 PM
The info on the Japan shows indicates that both Al and Blondie will be there...  don't know about other countries tho! 

UK data shown here:

http://www.withguitars.com/brian-wilson-announces-2016-pet-sounds-50th-anniversary-world-tour-dates/

Indicates Al and Blondie also.

Sorry I can't link direct to the poster shown as am posting via my phone which can't pic up the pic's URL…

Yeah, we know Al and Blondie are at the shows. I think mabewa was replying to the question about photos at the meet-and-greets.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Moz from Oz on February 02, 2016, 12:15:41 AM
Regarding the meet and greet package, I've bought one for April 3 in Melbourne, but noticing there was no mention of a photo with the worldwide package as opposed the the U.S packages, I emailed the local promoter. They responded today by saying they'd been in touch with Brian's management about it and management has said it will depend on Brian on the given evening. So the photo opportunity may be hit and miss. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on February 02, 2016, 05:17:14 AM
Regarding the meet and greet package, I've bought one for April 3 in Melbourne, but noticing there was no mention of a photo with the worldwide package as opposed the the U.S packages, I emailed the local promoter. They responded today by saying they'd been in touch with Brian's management about it and management has said it will depend on Brian on the given evening. So the photo opportunity may be hit and miss.  

Interesting that Brian has a say in the non-US packages, but they say a picture IS included in the US packages.

With no picture, what do you do at a meet & greet?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 37!ws on February 02, 2016, 07:26:27 AM
Has there been any news of the supposed Los Angeles show?

BW's Facebook page recently said something like, "Don't worry, fans in Chicago, NY, and LA -- we'll be announcing dates soon"...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bhw on February 02, 2016, 10:05:02 AM
I'm glad I scooped up tix for this show in addition to Tanglewood.   He can still sell tickets...

http://buffalo.com/2016/02/01/featured/brian-wilson-show-at-ub-sells-out-in-record-time/?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalyticsl (http://buffalo.com/2016/02/01/featured/brian-wilson-show-at-ub-sells-out-in-record-time/?utm_campaign=Contact+SNS+For+More+Referrer&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=snsanalyticsl)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on February 02, 2016, 11:49:27 AM
The info on the Japan shows indicates that both Al and Blondie will be there...  don't know about other countries tho! 

UK data shown here:

http://www.withguitars.com/brian-wilson-announces-2016-pet-sounds-50th-anniversary-world-tour-dates/

Indicates Al and Blondie also.

Sorry I can't link direct to the poster shown as am posting via my phone which can't pic up the pic's URL…

Yeah, we know Al and Blondie are at the shows. I think mabewa was replying to the question about photos at the meet-and-greets.

Spot on Andrew!  I would love a picture with the three Beach Boys!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Moz from Oz on February 02, 2016, 01:52:22 PM
Regarding the meet and greet package, I've bought one for April 3 in Melbourne, but noticing there was no mention of a photo with the worldwide package as opposed the the U.S packages, I emailed the local promoter. They responded today by saying they'd been in touch with Brian's management about it and management has said it will depend on Brian on the given evening. So the photo opportunity may be hit and miss.  

Interesting that Brian has a say in the non-US packages, but they say a picture IS included in the US packages.

With no picture, what do you do at a meet & greet?

Seems strange to me, but that's the explanation I got by his management through the promoter . I guess I'll wait and see


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on February 02, 2016, 11:04:47 PM
Regarding the meet and greet package, I've bought one for April 3 in Melbourne, but noticing there was no mention of a photo with the worldwide package as opposed the the U.S packages, I emailed the local promoter. They responded today by saying they'd been in touch with Brian's management about it and management has said it will depend on Brian on the given evening. So the photo opportunity may be hit and miss.  

Interesting that Brian has a say in the non-US packages, but they say a picture IS included in the US packages.

With no picture, what do you do at a meet & greet?

Meet people and greet them? I'd imagine (given my experience of similar events but without paying for them) you'd get a chance to talk to Brian's band, and maybe Al and Blondie, and then Brian will come in, you'll get a chance to shake his hand and maybe get an autograph, maybe exchange a few words.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on February 03, 2016, 03:10:48 AM
I'm not sure if this has been posted already, in which case I apologise, but another date has been added to the London Palladium. It's half sold out already by the looks of it, so if you want to get a ticket, or an extra one, then check it out quickly!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on February 03, 2016, 10:49:38 AM
Sorry if asked already but anyone know if there is any chance of more European dates? 3 days between Nottingham & Barcelona, 4 between Barcelona & Israel.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on February 03, 2016, 11:08:59 AM
Regarding the meet and greet package, I've bought one for April 3 in Melbourne, but noticing there was no mention of a photo with the worldwide package as opposed the the U.S packages, I emailed the local promoter. They responded today by saying they'd been in touch with Brian's management about it and management has said it will depend on Brian on the given evening. So the photo opportunity may be hit and miss.  

Interesting that Brian has a say in the non-US packages, but they say a picture IS included in the US packages.

With no picture, what do you do at a meet & greet?

Meet people and greet them? I'd imagine (given my experience of similar events but without paying for them) you'd get a chance to talk to Brian's band, and maybe Al and Blondie, and then Brian will come in, you'll get a chance to shake his hand and maybe get an autograph, maybe exchange a few words.

This is not how the NPP tour VIP souncheck and meet & greets were conducted. It was much more formal, Brian and Al (and Blondie, if he was playing the show) would be at a table. You would be ushered into the room, they would sign the Love & Mercy sheet music plus one additional small item. You would then stand behind them for a quick snap with your camera/phone. Very little time for chitchat. The backing band was not involved in the meet & greet portion, just the soundcheck.

I bought the VIP meet & greet going on the assumption that this is how the Pet Sounds tour would most likely be conducted. If I recall, the Beck tour was similar. I question if they will allow one small item to be signed in addition to the GOK sheet music and poster. If not, I'm hopeful I could forgo having one of those items signed and instead get my Rolling Stone magazine cover signed. We shall see, I'm sure there will be plenty of anecdotes posted from both the international and US shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 03, 2016, 11:14:53 AM
Added the extra London Palladium show to the top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on February 03, 2016, 11:58:56 AM
Regarding the meet and greet package, I've bought one for April 3 in Melbourne, but noticing there was no mention of a photo with the worldwide package as opposed the the U.S packages, I emailed the local promoter. They responded today by saying they'd been in touch with Brian's management about it and management has said it will depend on Brian on the given evening. So the photo opportunity may be hit and miss.  

Interesting that Brian has a say in the non-US packages, but they say a picture IS included in the US packages.

With no picture, what do you do at a meet & greet?

Meet people and greet them? I'd imagine (given my experience of similar events but without paying for them) you'd get a chance to talk to Brian's band, and maybe Al and Blondie, and then Brian will come in, you'll get a chance to shake his hand and maybe get an autograph, maybe exchange a few words.

This is not how the NPP tour VIP souncheck and meet & greets were conducted. It was much more formal, Brian and Al (and Blondie, if he was playing the show) would be at a table. You would be ushered into the room, they would sign the Love & Mercy sheet music plus one additional small item. You would then stand behind them for a quick snap with your camera/phone. Very little time for chitchat. The backing band was not involved in the meet & greet portion, just the soundcheck.

I bought the VIP meet & greet going on the assumption that this is how the Pet Sounds tour would most likely be conducted. If I recall, the Beck tour was similar. I question if they will allow one small item to be signed in addition to the GOK sheet music and poster. If not, I'm hopeful I could forgo having one of those items signed and instead get my Rolling Stone magazine cover signed. We shall see, I'm sure there will be plenty of anecdotes posted from both the international and US shows.

Yeah, that's how I'd assume the meet and greets will go for places where there are photos -- and I suspect that will be all or most of them. I was just talking about what might happen in a meet and greet situation *without* the photo.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on February 03, 2016, 12:17:57 PM
Meet people and greet them? I'd imagine (given my experience of similar events but without paying for them) you'd get a chance to talk to Brian's band, and maybe Al and Blondie, and then Brian will come in, you'll get a chance to shake his hand and maybe get an autograph, maybe exchange a few words.

The meet & greet is advertised with Brian only.
Does Brian seem like the type who wants to exchange a few words?  I don't think so.
The picture would actually be kind of a goal/finale to get your butt out of there for the next person.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on February 03, 2016, 01:55:38 PM
Meet people and greet them? I'd imagine (given my experience of similar events but without paying for them) you'd get a chance to talk to Brian's band, and maybe Al and Blondie, and then Brian will come in, you'll get a chance to shake his hand and maybe get an autograph, maybe exchange a few words.

The meet & greet is advertised with Brian only.
Does Brian seem like the type who wants to exchange a few words?  I don't think so.
The picture would actually be kind of a goal/finale to get your butt out of there for the next person.

I agree. Taking a quick photo and ushering you out of the room takes much less effort than a "relaxed" mingling atmosphere.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on February 04, 2016, 03:49:01 AM


The ticket business in UK is such a fucking travesty. 
Every time I swear I won't ever get involved again but every time Brian comes back I'm forced to play this shitty game again. 
How is this not illegal I will never know.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on February 04, 2016, 03:50:31 AM


The ticket business in UK is such a fucking travesty. 
Every time I swear I won't ever get involved again but every time Brian comes back I'm forced to play this shitty game again. 
How is this not illegal I will never know.

Quite :-/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on February 04, 2016, 04:47:31 AM


The ticket business in UK is such a fucking travesty. 
Every time I swear I won't ever get involved again but every time Brian comes back I'm forced to play this shitty game again. 
How is this not illegal I will never know.

Quite :-/

For the London Sunday show, I was on 4 different ticket sellers the moment they the sale started and the stalls were already sold out as well as most of of the circle.
But what do you know, plenty of tickets immediately available from re-sellers at 3-4 times the face value.
Disgusting.
I miss the old times when you could trust honest scalpers outside the venue.






Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on February 06, 2016, 12:36:34 AM


The ticket business in UK is such a fucking travesty. 
Every time I swear I won't ever get involved again but every time Brian comes back I'm forced to play this shitty game again. 
How is this not illegal I will never know.

Quite :-/

For the London Sunday show, I was on 4 different ticket sellers the moment they the sale started and the stalls were already sold out as well as most of of the circle.
But what do you know, plenty of tickets immediately available from re-sellers at 3-4 times the face value.
Disgusting.
I miss the old times when you could trust honest scalpers outside the venue.

I miss the old times when you bought tickets from the venue.

Had to catch a bus into town at the weekend to buy a ticket for Darts at Halifax Civic… had to ost off a cheque (cadged off Dad) for tickets to Knebworth 1980.

Be nice to see some honesty return to the system but as a species we're evolving past it - survival of the greediest.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: alf wiedersehen on February 09, 2016, 10:59:23 AM
Brian's playing the Hollywood Bowl on July 10th.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on February 09, 2016, 11:49:09 AM
Brian's playing the Hollywood Bowl on July 10th.

Thanks!  Great to know, Bubbly Waves.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on February 09, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Brian's playing the Hollywood Bowl on July 10th.

Oh boy, that's where I first saw him perform. With VDP conducting the symphony prelim. I wonder if I can win the Lotto in time to buy n' fly…?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SteveJ1980 on February 10, 2016, 10:49:41 AM
Hey, is anyone on here doing the tier 1 meet and greet in the UK??


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on February 12, 2016, 10:44:51 AM
More dates announced!

7/6 - Burlington, VT
9/9 - Atlanta
9/10 - St. Augustine, FL
9/11 - Sarasota, FL
9/16 - Nashville (2nd date)
10/5 - Salt Lake City
10/12 - San Francisco (2nd date)
10/15 - Sacramento

Still waiting for a Chicago date!  But I do love that this tour keeps growing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 12, 2016, 11:27:02 AM
Added the additional dates to the top post. Anyone let me know if I missed any, as the BW website didn't tag which dates were the new ones, so I just scrolled and tried to catch them all....


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on February 12, 2016, 01:58:34 PM
Atlanta is the Fox Theater.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: joe_blow on February 15, 2016, 12:19:03 PM
Does anyone know if there is a way to know when tickets will be on sale for Seattle? I suppose checking in everyday is one option.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on February 15, 2016, 09:54:55 PM
Anybody going to the second (a month after the first) show at the Flynn in Burlington on July 6 and have a pre-sale password? The first show sold out without any promotion; it's really great of Brian to return for another. Especially considering that, as far as I know, he's never played a show anywhere in Vermont before, neither as a solo act nor with the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on February 15, 2016, 10:51:16 PM
Does anyone know if the Atlanta show is confirmed to have Blondie and Al as well?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: catlag on February 16, 2016, 09:15:04 AM
Anybody going to the second (a month after the first) show at the Flynn in Burlington on July 6 and have a pre-sale password? The first show sold out without any promotion; it's really great of Brian to return for another. Especially considering that, as far as I know, he's never played a show anywhere in Vermont before, neither as a solo act nor with the Beach Boys.

I have super nice tickets for the first show (june 14) but now I'm wondering if I should buy tickets for the second also. It will be my first time going to a BW show (I've never been to BB's either) and I don't know what to expect except it will be great and I'll get to see Brian "in person". I'm dragging my friend there but she's only a casual fan and she won't go a second time, for sure. Isn't there an app to locate BB fans? There should be.

It was fairly easy to get tickets the first time, so, Sonora, I wouldn't worry. Just be ready at 10 a.m. on friday!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on February 16, 2016, 09:41:19 AM
Anybody going to the second (a month after the first) show at the Flynn in Burlington on July 6 and have a pre-sale password? The first show sold out without any promotion; it's really great of Brian to return for another. Especially considering that, as far as I know, he's never played a show anywhere in Vermont before, neither as a solo act nor with the Beach Boys.

I have super nice tickets for the first show (june 14) but now I'm wondering if I should buy tickets for the second also. It will be my first time going to a BW show (I've never been to BB's either) and I don't know what to expect except it will be great and I'll get to see Brian "in person". I'm dragging my friend there but she's only a casual fan and she won't go a second time, for sure. Isn't there an app to locate BB fans? There should be.

It was fairly easy to get tickets the first time, so, Sonora, I wouldn't worry. Just be ready at 10 a.m. on friday!

If you can afford to go a second time, I would. You may not have many more chances to see Brian live, and he and his band are extraordinarily good. You'll be kicking yourself coming out of the first show if you haven't bought tickets for the second.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: catlag on February 16, 2016, 10:02:02 AM
Anybody going to the second (a month after the first) show at the Flynn in Burlington on July 6 and have a pre-sale password? The first show sold out without any promotion; it's really great of Brian to return for another. Especially considering that, as far as I know, he's never played a show anywhere in Vermont before, neither as a solo act nor with the Beach Boys.

I have super nice tickets for the first show (june 14) but now I'm wondering if I should buy tickets for the second also. It will be my first time going to a BW show (I've never been to BB's either) and I don't know what to expect except it will be great and I'll get to see Brian "in person". I'm dragging my friend there but she's only a casual fan and she won't go a second time, for sure. Isn't there an app to locate BB fans? There should be.

It was fairly easy to get tickets the first time, so, Sonora, I wouldn't worry. Just be ready at 10 a.m. on friday!

If you can afford to go a second time, I would. You may not have many more chances to see Brian live, and he and his band are extraordinarily good. You'll be kicking yourself coming out of the first show if you haven't bought tickets for the second.

Yes, that's exatcly what I'm afraid of! Thanks for the advice.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on February 16, 2016, 10:47:11 AM
Anybody going to the second (a month after the first) show at the Flynn in Burlington on July 6 and have a pre-sale password? The first show sold out without any promotion; it's really great of Brian to return for another. Especially considering that, as far as I know, he's never played a show anywhere in Vermont before, neither as a solo act nor with the Beach Boys.

I have super nice tickets for the first show (june 14) but now I'm wondering if I should buy tickets for the second also. It will be my first time going to a BW show (I've never been to BB's either) and I don't know what to expect except it will be great and I'll get to see Brian "in person". I'm dragging my friend there but she's only a casual fan and she won't go a second time, for sure. Isn't there an app to locate BB fans? There should be.

It was fairly easy to get tickets the first time, so, Sonora, I wouldn't worry. Just be ready at 10 a.m. on friday!

You will absolutely love seeing Brian at the Flynn. I was born in Burlington and remember seeing many great shows and performers there, as well as movies. Wouldn't be surprised if he made some changes to the "hits" part the second time around, so I'd also encourage you to go again, if you can swing it.

I'm actually seeing Brian three nights after the second Burlington show, in Phoenix (in an even smaller and more "intimate" venue), but I've talked my older brother into going to the second Flynn show, if he can score tickets. He's a member but wasn't even aware of the first show until I told him... too late.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: catlag on February 16, 2016, 11:59:19 AM
I guess I was just hoping a date in Montreal would be announced... Does anyone think there's a chance that will happen at this point?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on February 16, 2016, 01:01:46 PM
So Marty, for which venue have you purchased those VIP tickets?  I have people asking about them at various venues.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on February 16, 2016, 07:49:16 PM
So Marty, for which venue have you purchased those VIP tickets?  I have people asking about them at various venues.
If that was directed to me, I bought VIP for the Fox Theatre in Detroit. I did VIP in New Buffalo back in November. Do you have a question? I'll try to help...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on February 16, 2016, 10:03:31 PM
Not a PS show but a benefit gig.

Jackson Mis April 28

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/life/intune/2016/02/16/beach-boys-brian-wilson-coming-jackson/80469394/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on February 16, 2016, 11:23:39 PM
Does anyone know if the Atlanta show is confirmed to have Blondie and Al as well?
I got an email from the promoter of the concert with presale information and Al and Blondie are definitely on the bill, as expected.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: astroray on February 17, 2016, 07:11:30 AM
Second row just now Atlanta GA! Sept 9th can not get here soon enuff!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on February 17, 2016, 08:47:11 AM
I ended up buying row L seats during the presale, which is a bummer. They're aisle seats, which is nice, but immediately after purchasing them someone released better tickets from their cart. I'm currently sitting with 3rd row tickets in my cart, but can't decide if it's worth the hassle to attempt to resell the others, since there's been a Groupon type deal on tickets for the past 3 atlanta shows (which kills resale value).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on February 17, 2016, 09:06:36 AM
I ended up buying row L seats during the presale, which is a bummer. They're aisle seats, which is nice, but immediately after purchasing them someone released better tickets from their cart. I'm currently sitting with 3rd row tickets in my cart, but can't decide if it's worth the hassle to attempt to resell the others, since there's been a Groupon type deal on tickets for the past 3 atlanta shows (which kills resale value).

If you're to the right of the stage (stage left), I would think about sticking with row L.

I'm not sure how that venue is, but I got stage left 2nd row tickets for a fall show, and could only see Brian's forehead above the piano. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on February 17, 2016, 09:27:22 AM
I ended up buying row L seats during the presale, which is a bummer. They're aisle seats, which is nice, but immediately after purchasing them someone released better tickets from their cart. I'm currently sitting with 3rd row tickets in my cart, but can't decide if it's worth the hassle to attempt to resell the others, since there's been a Groupon type deal on tickets for the past 3 atlanta shows (which kills resale value).

If you're to the right of the stage (stage left), I would think about sticking with row L.

I'm not sure how that venue is, but I got stage left 2nd row tickets for a fall show, and could only see Brian's forehead above the piano. 

That's what I was afraid of. For now, at least, I'm sticking with Row L. It's a bit further back, but it being an aisle seat is a bit of a plus. I'm probably going to have a few drinks and don't want to be THAT guy that makes an entire row stand up 4 times.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 17, 2016, 10:30:09 AM
I guess I'm just getting old and don't need extra reasons for frazzled nerves. I passed on the first SF show at the Masonic in October due to a mixture of possible schedule conflicts (the main reason), the ridiculous concept of selling tickets to a show nine months in advance, and hoping they'd book a return to the Mountain Winery in Saratoga earlier in the tour in June or July.

But I went ahead and bit for the second (now earlier) show just added at the Masonic. I guess I'll just have to make it work for my schedule come October. I just did the presale on the Live Nation website and got it over with ( :lol ) and got good enough seats. Floor seats are good enough. Balcony always just feels too distanced. I think this will be show #11 (or 12?) for me, going all the way back to 1999 at the Warfield Theatre in SF.

I will say I haven't seen BW tickets eaten up and sold out with this voraciousness in quite some time, if ever. One of the reasons I just secured a couple seats for a show; for whatever reason, even though BW did two shows in the Bay Area in 2015 and neither was a 100% sell out (perhaps pretty close though), he's selling out and doing multiple night runs for this 2016 tour. I guess the "Pet Sounds" theming is really perking up ticket sales.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: joe_blow on February 17, 2016, 02:53:23 PM
It turns out the Seattle show sold out before I even realized they went on sale. From anyone's experience, do ticket brokers sometimes drop their prices if the demand isn't as large as they had hoped? It seems bots are buying up as much as they can these days. I am still hoping to get tickets, but the online prices are atrocious.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 17, 2016, 03:38:56 PM
It turns out the Seattle show sold out before I even realized they went on sale. From anyone's experience, do ticket brokers sometimes drop their prices if the demand isn't as large as they had hoped? It seems bots are buying up as much as they can these days. I am still hoping to get tickets, but the online prices are atrocious.


Don’t know how much brokers/scalpers drop prices. If anything, I’ve sometimes seen broker websites leave tickets up for sale *after* the show has occurred, apparently indicating once they have the tickets, they set a price and list them and don’t look at it again.

Maybe individual eBay sellers might be a better shot?

What I have heard is that sometimes at the last minute extra tickets will be put back in circulation at the box office/Ticketmaster (or whatever the online channel is) due to the band members/associates not needing any more of the “comped” tickets that were set aside, and also perhaps any VIP package tickets that were not sold.

But yeah, these dates are selling out with vigor, in some markets anyway. After booking overly-large venues in the UK last year, did Brian perhaps book some cities with overly-small venues? Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather see him in a 3,000 seat theater than a 15,000 seat amphitheater, but demand seems very high on this tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: joe_blow on February 17, 2016, 04:27:01 PM
It turns out the Seattle show sold out before I even realized they went on sale. From anyone's experience, do ticket brokers sometimes drop their prices if the demand isn't as large as they had hoped? It seems bots are buying up as much as they can these days. I am still hoping to get tickets, but the online prices are atrocious.


Don’t know how much brokers/scalpers drop prices. If anything, I’ve sometimes seen broker websites leave tickets up for sale *after* the show has occurred, apparently indicating once they have the tickets, they set a price and list them and don’t look at it again.

Maybe individual eBay sellers might be a better shot?

What I have heard is that sometimes at the last minute extra tickets will be put back in circulation at the box office/Ticketmaster (or whatever the online channel is) due to the band members/associates not needing any more of the “comped” tickets that were set aside, and also perhaps any VIP package tickets that were not sold.

But yeah, these dates are selling out with vigor, in some markets anyway. After booking overly-large venues in the UK last year, did Brian perhaps book some cities with overly-small venues? Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather see him in a 3,000 seat theater than a 15,000 seat amphitheater, but demand seems very high on this tour.

Thanks Hey Jude. I e-mailed the theatre and they told me there may be some late ticket releases but nothing is guaranteed. I will keep snooping around. I would guess the Pet Sounds tour sells better than greatest hits.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on February 18, 2016, 06:32:52 AM
I wonder if there's a possibility of shows being moved to nearby bigger venues due to higher than expected demand. 

I remember when Roger Waters announced his 1999 Tour, his first in 12 years, he was slated to play Pier 6 in Baltimore, but the demand was so high, the show was relocated to the Baltimore Arena.  Turned out to the a good thing as it rained cats and dogs that night. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 18, 2016, 07:30:53 AM
Total guess, but I would think the team booking this tour is using a specific strategy, which is to book moderately-sized, relatively intimate venues, sell tickets far in advance, and have sell outs and overall strong sales even at venues that don't literally sell out. It's a strong guarantee of selling all the tickets, and agents and managers and booking agents love to publicize sell-outs. If you look at some "tour rider" contracts that float around (there are some BB and Jardine riders on the Smoking Gun website I believe), one of the items in the riders you sometimes see is that the venue or booking agency is required to report sell-outs to industry trade publications (e.g. Pollstar).

I don't see them canceling shows and moving to bigger venues (and I'm sure we all prefer more intimate venues). It looks like their strategy is to book second nights in select cities.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on February 19, 2016, 10:32:12 AM
Brian will be playing Pitchfork Festival in Chicago on July 16th.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on February 19, 2016, 11:17:07 AM
Bit the bullet and became a member of the Strathmore so I could get my tickets for Sept 20th.  Seven months and one day!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on February 20, 2016, 08:03:21 AM
I just got 2 tickets for St Augustine FL Sept 30.

Compared to the last show I went to in Ft Pierce in December, the upcoming show is selling faster in a bigger venue.

Demand is obviously higher for this tour vs the previous one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on February 20, 2016, 08:18:20 AM
I just got 2 tickets for St Augustine FL Sept 30.

Interesting.. I have Detroit tickets for that same day.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on February 20, 2016, 08:22:17 AM
I just got 2 tickets for St Augustine FL Sept 30.

Interesting.. I have Detroit tickets for that same day.

I would assume a typo - St. Augustine is Sept 10, Detroit Sept 30.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on February 20, 2016, 08:25:33 AM
I just got 2 tickets for St Augustine FL Sept 30.

Interesting.. I have Detroit tickets for that same day.

I would assume a typo - St. Augustine is Sept 10, Detroit Sept 30.

Yup, Sept. 10. Typing skills !


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jim McShane on February 20, 2016, 01:45:46 PM
Brian will be playing Pitchfork Festival in Chicago on July 16th.

Ugh. It would be very difficult to pick a worse place to perform Pet Sounds. It's noisy, likely to be very hot and/or raining (in 2015 they had to evacuate the site due to storms coming in), crowded... what a terrible choice.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on February 20, 2016, 02:32:38 PM
Brian will be playing Pitchfork Festival in Chicago on July 16th.

Ugh. It would be very difficult to pick a worse place to perform Pet Sounds. It's noisy, likely to be very hot and/or raining (in 2015 they had to evacuate the site due to storms coming in), crowded... what a terrible choice.

I think you're correct in terms of the actual conditions for the sound. But conversely it's a great choice, commercially. It's (yet another) opportunity to reach a young-skewing audience. The Pitchfork Festival is certainly one of the half-dozen or so most influential festivals for youngish crowds of the type who may be most interested in Wilson. I love that every decade or so there seems to be a new generation (or is that a half-generation?) people who seem to connect. If you're an audiophile or even just the kind of guy who'd rather be in a comfortable, smaller theater (ahem, me), the environment will suck. But for some people? Hey, go for it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on February 20, 2016, 04:11:20 PM
Brian will be playing Pitchfork Festival in Chicago on July 16th.

Ugh. It would be very difficult to pick a worse place to perform Pet Sounds. It's noisy, likely to be very hot and/or raining (in 2015 they had to evacuate the site due to storms coming in), crowded... what a terrible choice.

Yeah, definitely not the best place. Maybe he'll play an indoor Chicago show in October around the Minneapolis date?

I did buy a pass for Pitchfork just to see Brian, but I worry about how the show will go.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 20, 2016, 10:14:57 PM
I'm would imagine they're doing the festival gigs for the cool factor and good press they'll get for doing the shows for the younger-skewing audience. It's a good thing I think, but I'm sure an intimate indoor show would sound better and be a better experience. But the festival gigs serve an interesting purpose. Still blows my mind to hear the Bonnaroo Festival gig from C50 where the audience goes nuts for "Heroes and Villains" more than most of the car/surf songs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jim McShane on February 21, 2016, 08:32:42 AM
I'm would imagine they're doing the festival gigs for the cool factor and good press they'll get for doing the shows for the younger-skewing audience. It's a good thing I think, but I'm sure an intimate indoor show would sound better and be a better experience. But the festival gigs serve an interesting purpose. Still blows my mind to hear the Bonnaroo Festival gig from C50 where the audience goes nuts for "Heroes and Villains" more than most of the car/surf songs.

I know what you mean and I think for a typical greatest hits/few deep cuts performance it would be fine. But I just can't envision trying to perform songs like Caroline No or Don't Talk in the middle of that maelstrom of noise. I keep thinking back to the first time I heard PS live in the Chicago Theater in 2000. It was so quiet you could hear a pin drop; I remember looking at the other people sitting in my row and I saw grown men with tears rolling down their faces; I heard a Dad say to his young son to "listen carefully, we might never hear anything like this again". That was an experience I'll NEVER forget!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on February 21, 2016, 09:25:23 AM
I live in Chicago, and I'm kinda thrilled to see mentions of Brian at Pitchfork on facebook by friends whom I never would think would be excited about Brian or Pet Sounds.

Pet Sounds was made by a young person about things that all young people experience - longing, frustration, crushes, hopes, dreams.  I'm glad that Brian was booked for a venue where more young people can get exposed to Pet Sounds.  A few years ago, I saw Paul McCartney at Outside Lands - some guy near me screamed to his friend, "We're watching a [foda-ing] legend!!!!!" during "Hey Jude".  So yeah, it's like that.

Festivals are my cuppa, but it's Brian and it's close to home.  The tix weren't that expensive, and I can probably easily unload them on StubHub if need be.  I'm planning travels around two other shows, so it's all good.  I agree that a nice show at a place like the Chicago Theatre would be nifty for October.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on February 22, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
Just to let anyone interested in the Boston shows know the tickets are almost completely sold out already and they just went on sale today. I was lucky to get tickets for both nights in the upper balcony by the side of the stage but there is so much demand it crashed their site so just a heads up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 25, 2016, 04:19:02 PM
Pollstar is showing a 6/10 Portugal show, so I've added that to the top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on February 25, 2016, 11:45:56 PM
Looking at those dates, can't help feeling that continental Europe needs attending to.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on February 29, 2016, 03:33:06 PM
Two new dates for Brian, Al, and Blondie:
July 4 -- Toronto, ON, Canada (Massey Hall)
Aug. 20 -- Roanoke, VA (Elmwood Park)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 29, 2016, 03:39:03 PM
Added and added....

Okay, so now we see a VERY CLEAR pattern of Brian *not* playing in the US on July 4th when July 4th falls in the middle of one of his tours.

Does he have some agreement with BRI *not* to book a live gig on the 4th of July within the USA?

Also interesting that it appears that late July through early September gap will not be all time off, as that 8/20 show falls right in the midst of what previously appeared to be a break. I wonder how many additional dates will be added during that gap.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: carolinablonde on February 29, 2016, 07:57:21 PM
I got a presale notification today that Brian and crew will be at the Duke Energy Center in Raleigh, NC on 8/19.  Tickets go on sale Thursday.  .


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 01, 2016, 06:14:37 AM
Another Carolina date:

Aug. 18, Asheville, NC at the Thomas Wolfe Auditorium


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 02, 2016, 12:48:38 PM
Now I'm wondering if there'll be another date closer to Baltimore than September 20th...they're coming right up the coast...and of course tickets go on sale this Friday for Strathmore.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 02, 2016, 12:53:06 PM
Now I'm wondering if there'll be another date closer to Baltimore than September 20th...they're coming right up the coast...and of course tickets go on sale this Friday for Strathmore.

I wound up springing for the $65 to become a "Strathmore Star" so that I could buy tickets on February 18th.  I'm not as close as I was in Philly or Rockville, but I got decent seats. 

Since I went through that, I wouldn't be surprised if a date closer to Baltimore get added. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 02, 2016, 12:54:50 PM
I'm still hoping for a date in or near Cincinnati.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Tim Wilford on March 02, 2016, 01:15:27 PM
Per a radio station in Dallas. Brian will be at the Verizon Theater in Grand Prairie (suburb in DFW). On May 1.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 02, 2016, 01:19:40 PM
Now I'm wondering if there'll be another date closer to Baltimore than September 20th...they're coming right up the coast...and of course tickets go on sale this Friday for Strathmore.

I wound up springing for the $65 to become a "Strathmore Star" so that I could buy tickets on February 18th.  I'm not as close as I was in Philly or Rockville, but I got decent seats. 

Since I went through that, I wouldn't be surprised if a date closer to Baltimore get added. 

Do you happen to remember how the price breakdown went? As you know, none of that can be viewed without being a Strathmore Star...which I have no interest in being! In nine years of going to concerts this is the first time The Strathmore has popped up on my radar! :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 02, 2016, 01:25:11 PM
Now I'm wondering if there'll be another date closer to Baltimore than September 20th...they're coming right up the coast...and of course tickets go on sale this Friday for Strathmore.

I wound up springing for the $65 to become a "Strathmore Star" so that I could buy tickets on February 18th.  I'm not as close as I was in Philly or Rockville, but I got decent seats.  

Since I went through that, I wouldn't be surprised if a date closer to Baltimore get added.  



Do you happen to remember how the price breakdown went? As you know, none of that can be viewed without being a Strathmore Star...which I have no interest in being! In nine years of going to concerts this is the first time The Strathmore has popped up on my radar! :lol

Tickets range from $45 - $165.  

I got tickets in orchestra tier for $99 each.  The good thing is there's no service charges.  

I normally wouldn't do that Star thing, but with it being a small venue, I didn't want to take any chances.   I probably jumped the gun.  It's not thing I've heard or read one advertisement for the show locally.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: fishcane on March 02, 2016, 02:51:53 PM
This is one ambitious tour!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 03, 2016, 02:09:30 PM
Added a May 1st show in Grand Prairie, TX to the top post, which has appeared on Brian's website tour schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 04, 2016, 06:28:32 AM
Got our tix for Pet Sounds at The Strathmore! We're the first seats in the first box up top! Should be excellent...thinking of a nice bed-sheet type banner to drape over the edge at the end of the concert  :hat


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 04, 2016, 06:32:47 AM
Got our tix for Pet Sounds at The Strathmore! We're the first seats in the first box up top! Should be excellent...thinking of a nice bed-sheet type banner to drape over the edge at the end of the concert  :hat

I'm glad tickets were available today.  Although I'm sorry I talked myself into paying that additional $65.  But, I'm a Strathmore Star......whatever that means.

Now, for the 6 1/2 month wait. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on March 04, 2016, 06:58:19 AM
Buying tickets over 6 mos in advance is a long time to wait.  Got mine the day after the St Augustine FL show went on sale and I was surprised how many seats were already gone within 24 hrs. Good demand for this tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 04, 2016, 07:10:35 AM
Try 8 1/2 pushing almost 9 months for the end-of-tour shows near mid-October; that was my main gripe with how tickets went on sale during the first big on-sale push. For a number of financial and logistical reasons, I didn't find that very fan-friendly.

Sometimes folks don't know their schedule 8-9 months ahead of time for a specific day. I also in general just don't like fronting money for something that far in advance. It also creates a problem for people waiting for the possibility of additional shows being added that were better for one's schedule or geographical location.

Especially for shows in, say, October, it would be nice to perhaps *announce* the shows in January or February and then wait until maybe April or May for them to go on sale.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 04, 2016, 07:10:57 AM
Buying tickets over 6 mos in advance is a long time to wait.  Got mine the day after the St Augustine FL show went on sale and I was surprised how many seats were already gone within 24 hrs. Good demand for this tour.

Yeah, six months is a long time.  

My only concern is the number of dates.  I hope Brian doesn't burn himself out before we get to September.  He did a ton of dates in 2012 with The Beach Boys, and those were 2.5 hour shows, so hopefully everything goes well.  

You think this is a long time, a friend of mine bought tickets for Black Sabbath back in October last year.  The show's not until September of this year - 11 months!!!  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 04, 2016, 07:15:35 AM
Try 8 1/2 pushing almost 9 months for the end-of-tour shows near mid-October; that was my main gripe with how tickets went on sale during the first big on-sale push. For a number of financial and logistical reasons, I didn't find that very fan-friendly.

Sometimes folks don't know their schedule 8-9 months ahead of time for a specific day. I also in general just don't like fronting money for something that far in advance. It also creates a problem for people waiting for the possibility of additional shows being added that were better for one's schedule or geographical location.

Especially for shows in, say, October, it would be nice to perhaps *announce* the shows in January or February and then wait until maybe April or May for them to go on sale.

I agree.  Also, I find it a little odd how shows keep getting added here and there.  Why not wait until the entire tour itinerary is finalized before putting tickets on sale?   

I bought tickets for Bethesda, MD on a Tuesday night.  I'd hate for a show to randomly get announced for, say, Baltimore, on a Friday or Saturday night after I've already plunked down the money for the Bethesda show. 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 04, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
You wanna hear about a long wait? September 2014 I buy tickets for The Who's 50th Ann. Tour stop in DC on November 1st 2015. It was then rescheduled for March 24th 2016....so far...we're still on!  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 04, 2016, 09:15:34 AM
You wanna hear about a long wait? September 2014 I buy tickets for The Who's 50th Ann. Tour stop in DC on November 1st 2015. It was then rescheduled for March 24th 2016....so far...we're still on!  :lol

I almost bought tickets for that tour.   Big Who fan. 

But I've seen The Who three times since 2000.  The last time was the Quadrophenia Tour in 2012, and there's really not much Who material that I really want to hear live that I've not heard before. 

Maybe if they do a Tommy 50th in a couple years, I'll consider it. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 04, 2016, 09:27:56 AM
You wanna hear about a long wait? September 2014 I buy tickets for The Who's 50th Ann. Tour stop in DC on November 1st 2015. It was then rescheduled for March 24th 2016....so far...we're still on!  :lol

I almost bought tickets for that tour.   Big Who fan. 

But I've seen The Who three times since 2000.  The last time was the Quadrophenia Tour in 2012, and there's really not much Who material that I really want to hear live that I've not heard before. 

Maybe if they do a Tommy 50th in a couple years, I'll consider it. 

This is my first (and probably only) time seeing them. I was in St. Louis for McCartney when they came in '12...and I had some kind of commitment in '08 but it's been so long I don't remember!  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 04, 2016, 09:39:09 AM
You wanna hear about a long wait? September 2014 I buy tickets for The Who's 50th Ann. Tour stop in DC on November 1st 2015. It was then rescheduled for March 24th 2016....so far...we're still on!  :lol

I almost bought tickets for that tour.   Big Who fan. 

But I've seen The Who three times since 2000.  The last time was the Quadrophenia Tour in 2012, and there's really not much Who material that I really want to hear live that I've not heard before. 

Maybe if they do a Tommy 50th in a couple years, I'll consider it. 

This is my first (and probably only) time seeing them. I was in St. Louis for McCartney when they came in '12...and I had some kind of commitment in '08 but it's been so long I don't remember!  :lol

You'll enjoy it.  They still put on a high quality show. 

If money were no object, I'd gladly see them one more time before they call it a day. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on March 05, 2016, 07:04:43 PM
Kind of ironic there won't be a performance on the exact 50th anniversary of Pet Sounds.

Maybe Brian, Al, and the rest of the band will have a little party at Mike's house to celebrate  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jim V. on March 05, 2016, 11:44:51 PM
Got my tickets for the St. Augustine show! This will be my fourth Brian Wilson show and my fifth time seeing him in general, as I also saw him in 2012 with The Beach Boys.

So psyched to soon be able to say that I saw Brian play Pet Sounds live. Seeing him and company do SMiLE in 2004 was amazing, but I think Pet Sounds will top it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 06, 2016, 09:58:40 AM
Got my tickets for the St. Augustine show! This will be my fourth Brian Wilson show and my fifth time seeing him in general, as I also saw him in 2012 with The Beach Boys.

So psyched to soon be able to say that I saw Brian play Pet Sounds live. Seeing him and company do SMiLE in 2004 was amazing, but I think Pet Sounds will top it!

There's no doubt in my mind that you'll love it, having seen this band last summer.  Having seen several of the "Pet Sounds" shows in the past with the orchestra (spectacular), I'm really excited about these new shows with whatever new takes this amazing band will have on it today.  We have Al, Matt and Blondie, with Brian and band, so I think we'll see Brian's new view of it all. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 06, 2016, 04:04:24 PM
The Strathmore gig is already sold out...I would not be surprised if another area gig were added in August as they come up the coast.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bluesno1fann on March 06, 2016, 06:16:08 PM
So Brian's coming to Melbourne very soon as part of this tour. I would love to see him and all that, though unfortunately I'll have to give it a pass. I'm already going to see Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden with friends, and I can't spend too much money on concerts. In any case I've already seen Brian with The Beach Boys during the C50 tour, so I think that'll be enough. If I do get enough money to go to another concert this year, priorities would go to Eric Burdon And The Animals


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 07, 2016, 05:43:09 AM
So Brian's coming to Melbourne very soon as part of this tour. I would love to see him and all that, though unfortunately I'll have to give it a pass. I'm already going to see Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden with friends, and I can't spend too much money on concerts. In any case I've already seen Brian with The Beach Boys during the C50 tour, so I think that'll be enough. If I do get enough money to go to another concert this year, priorities would go to Eric Burdon And The Animals

Jealous of you getting a Maiden show in your neck of the woods.  I don't think we'll be getting a Book of Souls show in DC/MD until 2017. 

I saw Brian twice last year, but there was no way I was missing out on Pet Sounds live. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 08, 2016, 03:06:38 AM
The Strathmore gig is already sold out...I would not be surprised if another area gig were added in August as they come up the coast.

I totally stuffed up getting tickets for Strathmore, as a gift for my mother's birthday (I blame getting the on-sale time wrong from fifteen timezones away).  Anyone know a good legitimate non-scalpery source for tickets at this point?

Mutter grumble gnash,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 08, 2016, 09:52:28 PM
Added 6/30 San Diego show to the top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 09, 2016, 12:20:57 AM
Would have been pretty cool if that concert could have been in the zoo somehow.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 09, 2016, 05:26:47 AM
The Strathmore gig is already sold out...I would not be surprised if another area gig were added in August as they come up the coast.

I totally stuffed up getting tickets for Strathmore, as a gift for my mother's birthday (I blame getting the on-sale time wrong from fifteen timezones away).  Anyone know a good legitimate non-scalpery source for tickets at this point?

Mutter grumble gnash,
Jon Blum

Since the Strathmore doesn't go through Ticketmaster or Ticketfly, that may be difficult. 

Hate to say it, but if you weren't able to get a ticket for this show, you might have to rely on a scalping site (ie. Stubhub). 

Or, you can also see if there are tickets left for Philly on Fri 9/23.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on March 09, 2016, 11:12:40 AM
The Strathmore gig is already sold out...I would not be surprised if another area gig were added in August as they come up the coast.

Well Wolf Trap is not far away (Vienna, VA.) I think there's even a metro stop that has a shuttle that goes right to the arena.

Edit: My bad, his Virginia date is in Roanoke. Guess once I get down there, I'll have to go the StubHub route.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 10, 2016, 06:34:17 AM
Brian has just been announced as the headliner for Brooklyn, NY's Northside Festival at McCarren Park on June 12th.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on March 10, 2016, 08:19:00 PM
Brian has just been announced as the headliner for Brooklyn, NY's Northside Festival at McCarren Park on June 12th.

Kacey Musgraves will also be at the festival.  I wonder if we'll be hearing the first ever live performance of "Guess You Had to Be There".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 14, 2016, 08:47:12 AM
Added new shows for 8/23 and 8/25.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 14, 2016, 08:56:56 AM
Added new shows for 8/23 and 8/25.

Baltimore on 8/23??  You've got to be kidding me.  

This is why I wish they'd announce the whole tour at once.  I already bought tickets for a bunch more inconvenient location in Bethesda for September 20th. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 14, 2016, 07:32:35 PM
Added new shows for 8/23 and 8/25.

Baltimore on 8/23??  You've got to be kidding me.  

This is why I wish they'd announce the whole tour at once.  I already bought tickets for a bunch more inconvenient location in Bethesda for September 20th. 


Here we go...didn't we say this would happen??? Ridiculousness...totally agreed. Why can't they announce it all at once???...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 14, 2016, 07:44:55 PM
After checking out the ticket prices...I think I'll be happier with our arrangement at the Strathmore. We've got really cool box-style seats at the top near the front of the stage and it's a new venue to me that looks totally gorgeous. If you're not at the front of either the top or bottom level at the Hippodrome, you're at a high risk of having a decent view.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bluesno1fann on March 14, 2016, 07:48:23 PM
So Brian's coming to Melbourne very soon as part of this tour. I would love to see him and all that, though unfortunately I'll have to give it a pass. I'm already going to see Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden with friends, and I can't spend too much money on concerts. In any case I've already seen Brian with The Beach Boys during the C50 tour, so I think that'll be enough. If I do get enough money to go to another concert this year, priorities would go to Eric Burdon And The Animals

Jealous of you getting a Maiden show in your neck of the woods.  I don't think we'll be getting a Book of Souls show in DC/MD until 2017. 

I saw Brian twice last year, but there was no way I was missing out on Pet Sounds live. 

So I found out that a mate of mine is going to see Brian Wilson in Perth..... I'd be lying if I wasn't festering in jealousy aha


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 15, 2016, 05:16:12 AM
After checking out the ticket prices...I think I'll be happier with our arrangement at the Strathmore. We've got really cool box-style seats at the top near the front of the stage and it's a new venue to me that looks totally gorgeous. If you're not at the front of either the top or bottom level at the Hippodrome, you're at a high risk of having a decent view.

I know the prices for the band Ghost at the Hippodrome were a little on the high side for a newer band.

Turns out a former business associate who I haven't talked to in years (other than Happy Birthday / Merry Xmas messages) offered me a free pair to the Baltimore show.  I must be posting a lot of BB/BW stuff on Facebook because when we worked together, I never once mentioned Brian or the BB. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 15, 2016, 08:06:19 AM
After checking out the ticket prices...I think I'll be happier with our arrangement at the Strathmore. We've got really cool box-style seats at the top near the front of the stage and it's a new venue to me that looks totally gorgeous. If you're not at the front of either the top or bottom level at the Hippodrome, you're at a high risk of having a decent view.

I know the prices for the band Ghost at the Hippodrome were a little on the high side for a newer band.

Turns out a former business associate who I haven't talked to in years (other than Happy Birthday / Merry Xmas messages) offered me a free pair to the Baltimore show.  I must be posting a lot of BB/BW stuff on Facebook because when we worked together, I never once mentioned Brian or the BB. 


NICE!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Myra on March 15, 2016, 08:34:36 PM
I got the ticket for the show in Brooklyn, NY.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 16, 2016, 05:21:47 AM
I got the ticket for the show in Brooklyn, NY.

Awesome


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on March 16, 2016, 06:31:49 AM
I got the ticket for the show in Brooklyn, NY.

Awesome
Me too! Very excited.

Interesting festival to be headlining -- looks like a lot of hipsterish contemporary bands. Should be a young crowd. Is it safe to assume the show is standing-room-only?



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 17, 2016, 05:55:55 AM
Two new BW and friends dates announced:
July 3 - Ottawa, ON, Canada - Confederation Park, Jazz Fest
Aug. 16 - Bowling Green, KY - Southern Kentucky Performing Arts Center


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 17, 2016, 07:19:45 AM
Added the two new dates to the top post. If my impromptu count is correct, it's up to 79 shows now. More than C50.

And again, does anyone have any idea why Brian appears to specifically go out of his way to NOT perform in the US on July 4th during years when he's on tour in July? I'm still wondering if it's some agreement with BRI to not "compete" on that day in the US or something. Or does Brian just really not like fireworks?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 17, 2016, 08:15:54 AM
Bowling Green.... closer, but still over three hours away.  Hopefully that date means they'll add something closer to me in the days before that concert.  Can't imagine they'd do Bowling Green, but not Louisville, Cincinnati, Columbus, etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: southbay on March 17, 2016, 09:48:41 AM
Got my tickets for the St. Augustine show! This will be my fourth Brian Wilson show and my fifth time seeing him in general, as I also saw him in 2012 with The Beach Boys.

So psyched to soon be able to say that I saw Brian play Pet Sounds live. Seeing him and company do SMiLE in 2004 was amazing, but I think Pet Sounds will top it!

Not a huge fan of seeing Brian live, but I will say that seeing him and Al do the entirety of Pet Sounds together at UCLA's Royce Hall back about 10 years ago was no doubt one of my all time Beach Boys-related highlights. Al's vocals on the PS material were incredible (I Know There's An Answer, I Guess I Just Wasn't Made For These Times, et al.) It was better than Brian's Roxy shows that I attended which were recorded for the Live CD.  I am sure this tour will be a good one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 17, 2016, 09:53:22 AM
I saw Al and Brian together do "Pet Sounds" in January '07 in Oakland. Al unfortunately but understandably didn't sing a great deal of leads during the PS set. But the moments he joined in, especially of course on "I Know There's An Answer", were worth it.

During that short PS 40th tour, they did "Wouldn't It Be Nice" in the lower key Brian had been doing it on his solo tours, and Al took the second verse. I think Al also came in on parts of "Sloop John B" and the overlapping tag on "IJWMFTT" (as he did on C50).

It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 18, 2016, 09:10:51 AM
This Billboard article says Billy Hinsche will be joining Brian.  I wonder if it will be for the whole tour, or just a few dates.  It also suggests that the tour continue into 2017.  Great news!

http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/7263743/brian-wilson-pet-sounds-tour


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 18, 2016, 09:52:47 AM
I saw Al and Brian together do "Pet Sounds" in January '07 in Oakland. Al unfortunately but understandably didn't sing a great deal of leads during the PS set. But the moments he joined in, especially of course on "I Know There's An Answer", were worth it.

During that short PS 40th tour, they did "Wouldn't It Be Nice" in the lower key Brian had been doing it on his solo tours, and Al took the second verse. I think Al also came in on parts of "Sloop John B" and the overlapping tag on "IJWMFTT" (as he did on C50).

It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?

Seeing that this is being billed as the last PS tour, I'd hope that most of the album's leads by Brian will be sung by him. Whether or not they'll be in the original key seems unimportant.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on March 18, 2016, 10:55:10 AM
Bowling Green.... closer, but still over three hours away.  Hopefully that date means they'll add something closer to me in the days before that concert.  Can't imagine they'd do Bowling Green, but not Louisville, Cincinnati, Columbus, etc.

The Horseshoe Casino - Elizabeth, IN show is just over the river from Louisville.

Couldn't have been closer to us!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 18, 2016, 11:06:48 AM
That Billboard article mentions a list of touring band musicians, including Darian, Scott, as well as Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin. So I dunno if they're just listing a bunch of musicians that have played in the band over the years, or they're indicating that Darian and/or Scott will miss runs of shows? I can't imagine them needing four keyboard/piano players.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on March 18, 2016, 11:10:00 AM
No VIP

But we will be at the steak bar while the soundcheck thing is happening.

Ya never know some of the band might get hungry for a ribeye!

 I'll tote a BB CD along just in case I bump into somebody...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 18, 2016, 12:26:08 PM
Bowling Green.... closer, but still over three hours away.  Hopefully that date means they'll add something closer to me in the days before that concert.  Can't imagine they'd do Bowling Green, but not Louisville, Cincinnati, Columbus, etc.

The Horseshoe Casino - Elizabeth, IN show is just over the river from Louisville.

Couldn't have been closer to us!

I don't know how I missed that after all this time.  :lol  However, I wouldn't be able to attend since I'm not 21.  Plus, it looks like I wouldn't be able to afford it anyway.  $252 for a ticket seven rows back.  Maybe if I was buying just one ticket, but I'm also buying two others. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 18, 2016, 01:50:24 PM
That Billboard article mentions a list of touring band musicians, including Darian, Scott, as well as Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin. So I dunno if they're just listing a bunch of musicians that have played in the band over the years, or they're indicating that Darian and/or Scott will miss runs of shows? I can't imagine them needing four keyboard/piano players.

If there is talk of this tour going into next year then possibly band members have other pre arranged commitments. Some fill-ins would be required if that is the case.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 18, 2016, 10:12:19 PM
It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?

Well I'm late to the party but after saying the C50 was my last Beach Boy related concert, I will be there on opening night here in Auckland in 7 days. While not one to sit there with pen and paper I will try to remember to answer these and any other questions the day after.

I blame Blondie for this change of heart. :) I've never seen him play live and I suggested here that he should cut loose on his tracks such as 'Wild Honey' when he first joined Brian. I'm not taking any credit but, what do you know, he did, so it would be rude not to acknowledge that in person. Also the fact so many artists, many younger, have left us in the last 6 months or so, these guys deserve a full house and appreciation for their continued efforts.

This should be the last time though.....but then again there is still Ricky! ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 19, 2016, 10:00:14 AM
If there is talk of this tour going into next year then possibly band members have other pre arranged commitments. Some fill-ins would be required if that is the case.

That's exactly the case -- this tour has a lot more dates than other BW shows and some of the "regulars" are not available for all the shows. Even Al will be missing one show due to a date conflict.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 19, 2016, 10:41:11 AM
If there is talk of this tour going into next year then possibly band members have other pre arranged commitments. Some fill-ins would be required if that is the case.

That's exactly the case -- this tour has a lot more dates than other BW shows and some of the "regulars" are not available for all the shows. Even Al will be missing one show due to a date conflict.

Can you share which date this is? Brian's website has not mentioned Al missing a show; he's listed on the main tour literature/logos/banners (not sure what to call them).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on March 19, 2016, 11:18:42 AM
If there is talk of this tour going into next year then possibly band members have other pre arranged commitments. Some fill-ins would be required if that is the case.

That's exactly the case -- this tour has a lot more dates than other BW shows and some of the "regulars" are not available for all the shows. Even Al will be missing one show due to a date conflict.

Can you share which date this is? Brian's website has not mentioned Al missing a show; he's listed on the main tour literature/logos/banners (not sure what to call them).
Al has a date scheduled with the Surf City All Stars on July 23rd and it's a private gig which makes me think the people requested Al be there, so he's probably gonna miss Brian's date in Louisiana. Again this is a guess based on a quick look at the schedules but idk.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 19, 2016, 11:26:01 AM
It is mentioned on Brian's website's tour dates:

Jul 23
Sat
Horseshoe Casino *(featuring Blondie Chaplin)
Bossier City, LA

Note the part that says "featuring Blondie Chaplin."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ignatius on March 19, 2016, 09:21:53 PM
Any Smiley Smilers going to Bluesfest in Byron Bay March 28th? I will be volunteering for most of the festival but will be front row for Brian's set. If anyone wants to meet PM me :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rich Panteluk on March 19, 2016, 09:31:42 PM
Howdy Folks,
I have two wonderful tickets to Brian Wilson (With Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin) on Friday July 1, 2016 in Las Vegas at The Joint in The Hard Rock that I can't use due to a maddening work conflict.  I bought tickets to Massey Hall a few days later in Toronto instead (now it seems I may not be able to use those either...ugh).  Anyhow, I believe the show is now sold out.  I am not a scalper and am just looking to recoup what I paid.  The seats are great.  They are in the Gold2 section Row KK (the two seats are together, of course) which is 11th row centre on the floor in the orchestra section.  This is prime seating as if you are much closer you may not see Brian with his white piano obscuring his body and head.  This has happened to me before so these seats are up close but not too close.  Anyhow please contact me if you are interested.
 
richp20@hotmail.com

I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and these are hard tickets in my current possession, not sketchy e-tickets.  Buyer pays shipping.

Is this the right place to post a message like this?  Just curious if there are any dedicated pages out there in the Brian Wilson / Beach Boys messages boards that focus on Tickets for sale or trade.  Might it be useful to have a thread or section dedicated to that?  Apologies if this exists and I am out of the loop, or if this post is best placed elsewhere.  Any help is much appreciated.

Also if you are interested in the 2 Massey Hall tickets for The July 4 Toronto show, let me know as I may have to give those up as well. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 20, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
Brian's Facebook page posted a few of pictures of them rehearsing Pet Sounds.  Brian was singing That's Not Me in one of them.  By the looks of it I'd say there will definitely be some sort of documentary. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on March 20, 2016, 02:40:43 PM
They just posted a picture of Blondie at rehearsal and the caption "Funky Pretty" !!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 20, 2016, 03:15:08 PM
Oh Yeah!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on March 20, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
They just posted a picture of Blondie at rehearsal and the caption "Funky Pretty" !!!
Now that's worth the price of admission right there!!! Of course that album he's playing isn't bad either 😂😂


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on March 20, 2016, 03:40:42 PM
Just posted a picture of Al with "Hokin' Down the Highway" as part of the caption.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 20, 2016, 06:18:59 PM
Al also posted pics yesterday mentioning that they "recorded Pet Sounds" for Spotify at Capitol studio. Sounds like they recorded the full album live in studio for Spotify?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 20, 2016, 06:20:25 PM
It is mentioned on Brian's website's tour dates:

Jul 23
Sat
Horseshoe Casino *(featuring Blondie Chaplin)
Bossier City, LA

Note the part that says "featuring Blondie Chaplin."


Ah, I see. What a weird way of saying "not featuring Al Jardine."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GuyO on March 20, 2016, 10:40:47 PM
I see Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin in these recent pictures, but no Scott Bennett.... Anyone have info on this? I recall a post on FB from Scott which seemed sad and out of character, bit it'sgone.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wirestone on March 20, 2016, 11:07:51 PM
Scott posted a pic of Brian and Al in the studio yesterday and said it was a fun day. So I would wager that he's present.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 21, 2016, 01:39:30 AM
Just posted a picture of Al with "Hokin' Down the Highway" as part of the caption.

YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 21, 2016, 03:33:58 AM
'Funky Pretty' and 'Honkin' Down the Highway' are indeed big news...  I like that weird 1970's stuff!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 21, 2016, 05:29:17 AM
Scott posted a pic of Brian and Al in the studio yesterday and said it was a fun day. So I would wager that he's present.

Looked like Brian got a haircut. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 21, 2016, 06:45:43 AM
This is really shaping up to be something special...even beyond the Pet Sounds!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 21, 2016, 07:23:13 AM
Scott posted a pic of Brian and Al in the studio yesterday and said it was a fun day. So I would wager that he's present.

My guess as to Gary Griffin's presence would be either that they simply wanted his accordion on some PS songs for the Spotify session, and/or they're having Griffin join in on some rehearsals if indeed he may step in for some of the tour dates due to scheduling conflicts of someone else (most likely presumably Darian or Scott).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on March 21, 2016, 07:25:48 AM
I'd like two to three from "Love You", not just Honkin'


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 21, 2016, 07:25:52 AM
I wonder if the giraffe that showed up on the Facebook photos yesterday will be an onstage prop for the tour.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 21, 2016, 07:44:31 AM
I'd like two to three from "Love You", not just Honkin'

Yeah, they should bring back The Night Was So Young, and maybe add in Airplane or Solar System (and maybe Ding Dang, since Brian seems to like that one). But I'm happy to see *anything* from Love You added.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 21, 2016, 07:50:22 AM
Unless the extend the length of the shows quite a bit compared to last year, I wouldn't count on a *ton* of rare, "deep" cuts.

Setlists last year were around 32-33 songs. So that leaves about 20 after PS. I would assume they're probably going to do the "Rhonda/Barbara Ann/Surfin' USA/Fun Fun Fun/Love and Mercy" show closer, or something along those lines (they seem to be quite fond of "All Summer Long" lately as well). So that gets it down to 15 or so, and there are probably a few other likely cuts ("California Girls", one or two Al cuts like "Cottonfields, "Then I Kissed Her, etc., a car song or two, probably at least "One Kind of Love" off of NPP).

But I could see them making the setlist a bit longer, especially if they do break the show up with an intermission.

If they could get to around 40 songs or so, that would leave more room for some "new" deep cuts. But it looks like we're at least going to get a few "new" old songs. I'm still hoping for something weird like "Goin' On" or "Don't Go Near the Water" or something.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 21, 2016, 08:21:00 AM
Unless the extend the length of the shows quite a bit compared to last year, I wouldn't count on a *ton* of rare, "deep" cuts.

Setlists last year were around 32-33 songs. So that leaves about 20 after PS. I would assume they're probably going to do the "Rhonda/Barbara Ann/Surfin' USA/Fun Fun Fun/Love and Mercy" show closer, or something along those lines (they seem to be quite fond of "All Summer Long" lately as well). So that gets it down to 15 or so, and there are probably a few other likely cuts ("California Girls", one or two Al cuts like "Cottonfields, "Then I Kissed Her, etc., a car song or two, probably at least "One Kind of Love" off of NPP).

But I could see them making the setlist a bit longer, especially if they do break the show up with an intermission.

If they could get to around 40 songs or so, that would leave more room for some "new" deep cuts. But it looks like we're at least going to get a few "new" old songs. I'm still hoping for something weird like "Goin' On" or "Don't Go Near the Water" or something.

Don't forget the Blondie portion of the set which will likely include an extended Wild Honey.   I also figure Heroes and Villains and Darlin will remain.

I wouldn't mind trimming some of the car songs (ie. Little Deuce Coupe, Shut Down, Drive In) to make room for some more 67-73 material.   I'd love to hear Til I Die make the setlist. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on March 21, 2016, 09:17:11 AM
I'd like two to three from "Love You", not just Honkin'

Yeah, they should bring back The Night Was So Young, and maybe add in Airplane or Solar System (and maybe Ding Dang, since Brian seems to like that one). But I'm happy to see *anything* from Love You added.

Oh my, Airplane..

Can you imagine that one live, it would be incredible.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 21, 2016, 03:37:20 PM
Unless the extend the length of the shows quite a bit compared to last year, I wouldn't count on a *ton* of rare, "deep" cuts.

Setlists last year were around 32-33 songs. So that leaves about 20 after PS. I would assume they're probably going to do the "Rhonda/Barbara Ann/Surfin' USA/Fun Fun Fun/Love and Mercy" show closer, or something along those lines (they seem to be quite fond of "All Summer Long" lately as well). So that gets it down to 15 or so, and there are probably a few other likely cuts ("California Girls", one or two Al cuts like "Cottonfields, "Then I Kissed Her, etc., a car song or two, probably at least "One Kind of Love" off of NPP).

But I could see them making the setlist a bit longer, especially if they do break the show up with an intermission.

If they could get to around 40 songs or so, that would leave more room for some "new" deep cuts. But it looks like we're at least going to get a few "new" old songs. I'm still hoping for something weird like "Goin' On" or "Don't Go Near the Water" or something.

What I'm hoping -- though not necessarily expecting -- is that we get something closer to the fifty-odd song setlists that Brian did when he toured Pet Sounds in 2002


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 21, 2016, 04:21:19 PM
I really hope they drop a lot of those early songs. They just don't go off with Brian's voice these days and they are so down tempo you can't even clap to them...Little Deuce Coupe was a total drag in November. That being said, the deeper early tracks (or one's without a Mike Love lead) do sound superb with this band, and obviously anything post Pet Sounds is spot on. I just wish they'd focus on that more. Any fans coming out for a full-fledged "Pet Sounds" performance are probably way more interested in the material that succeeds the album rather than precedes the album. I'll be shocked if they keep the "No Pier Pressure" songs around for this run.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 21, 2016, 04:47:56 PM
I don't mind a duo or trio of car songs, like "I Get Around" and "Little Deuce Coupe" and/or "Shut Down." I like the idea of those more as a way to throw Al a few leads. But if they give him some other leads, they could dispense with another of these.

Thing is, I think they still did some "meat and potatoes" numbers last year because the tour was perhaps pitched to a slightly more broad audience where they would feel they have to do some of those "meat and potatoes" tracks.

But a PS tour is clearly tuned more towards the hardcore/indie/hipster/nerd fans, so I'm hoping they can dispense with any pretense that this isn't a "deep cuts" crowd. Either way, they still end up doing some "recognizable" songs. California Girls, Good Vibrations, the final four of five "encore" songs, etc.

It'll be interesting to see what survives from the NPP album. I'd guess "One Kind of Love" is quite possible, and maybe not much else. Certainly "Sail Away" and "The Right Time" might still make the cut, but perhaps they'll replace those with "Honkin'" and "Funky Pretty."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on March 21, 2016, 08:06:01 PM
http://iconosquare.com/p/1184139975131254831_183520627 A clip from Carnie Wilson's instagram of honkin rehearsals.

edit: I just noticed how old that was. It was from a month ago.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 22, 2016, 01:15:04 AM
http://iconosquare.com/p/1184139975131254831_183520627 A clip from Carnie Wilson's instagram of honkin rehearsals.

edit: I just noticed how old that was. It was from a month ago.

Yeah, that'll be rehearsals for the Wild Honey tribute show, where Al also did that one..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GuyO on March 22, 2016, 05:04:24 AM
Again, on FB pictures from rehearsels with Gary Griffin and Billy Hinsche, but no Scott Bennett...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on March 22, 2016, 05:28:35 AM
I don't mind a duo or trio of car songs, like "I Get Around" and "Little Deuce Coupe" and/or "Shut Down." I like the idea of those more as a way to throw Al a few leads. But if they give him some other leads, they could dispense with another of these.

Thing is, I think they still did some "meat and potatoes" numbers last year because the tour was perhaps pitched to a slightly more broad audience where they would feel they have to do some of those "meat and potatoes" tracks.

But a PS tour is clearly tuned more towards the hardcore/indie/hipster/nerd fans, so I'm hoping they can dispense with any pretense that this isn't a "deep cuts" crowd. Either way, they still end up doing some "recognizable" songs. California Girls, Good Vibrations, the final four of five "encore" songs, etc.

It'll be interesting to see what survives from the NPP album. I'd guess "One Kind of Love" is quite possible, and maybe not much else. Certainly "Sail Away" and "The Right Time" might still make the cut, but perhaps they'll replace those with "Honkin'" and "Funky Pretty."

From NPP, I would imagine Sail Away still makes the setlist since it features Blondie. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on March 22, 2016, 05:43:31 AM
Great group* picture - giraffe included - now on Brian's Facebook page. Aaahh, this is going to be great..


*Again sans Bennett.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 22, 2016, 06:35:13 AM
Given that Scott Bennett posted some rehearsal photos three days ago, and is named in the Billboard piece, I imagine he'll be on at least part of the tour.
Remember that this is by far the longest tour Brian has *ever* done in his solo career, by a long way -- longer than the reunion tour in 2012, even. And a few of Brian's band members were unhappy about that, and being away from family and other commitments for so long, so I imagine the same is true here, too -- especially if, as the Billboard piece suggested, the tour continues into 2017 and includes another European leg.
So it would make sense that there would be some swapping about of musicians as the tour goes on, to give people who need it a break.
(That said, I do hope Scott is on the tour when it hits the UK -- all of the band, including Gary and Billy, are very good musicians and singers, but Scott, Probyn, and Nelson are the best *performers* in the band, and add as much in stage presence as they do in musicianship...)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on March 22, 2016, 06:41:08 AM
Given that Scott Bennett posted some rehearsal photos three days ago, and is named in the Billboard piece, I imagine he'll be on at least part of the tour.
Remember that this is by far the longest tour Brian has *ever* done in his solo career, by a long way -- longer than the reunion tour in 2012, even. And a few of Brian's band members were unhappy about that, and being away from family and other commitments for so long, so I imagine the same is true here, too -- especially if, as the Billboard piece suggested, the tour continues into 2017 and includes another European leg.
So it would make sense that there would be some swapping about of musicians as the tour goes on, to give people who need it a break.
(That said, I do hope Scott is on the tour when it hits the UK -- all of the band, including Gary and Billy, are very good musicians and singers, but Scott, Probyn, and Nelson are the best *performers* in the band, and add as much in stage presence as they do in musicianship...)
Yup, that's probably it. :) The 'preventative' addition of Billy Hinsche and Garry Griffin also points to that.

This really is a long-a** tour for Brian.... :o :rock



They just posted a picture of Blondie at rehearsal and the caption "Funky Pretty" !!!
:love


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 23, 2016, 11:07:38 PM
I really hope they drop a lot of those early songs. They just don't go off with Brian's voice these days and they are so down tempo you can't even clap to them...Little Deuce Coupe was a total drag in November. That being said, the deeper early tracks (or one's without a Mike Love lead) do sound superb with this band, and obviously anything post Pet Sounds is spot on. I just wish they'd focus on that more. Any fans coming out for a full-fledged "Pet Sounds" performance are probably way more interested in the material that succeeds the album rather than precedes the album. I'll be shocked if they keep the "No Pier Pressure" songs around for this run.


I agree here.  I hope they don't fill the rest of the show up with those car and surf songs, which to me seeing Brian do know, sounds dated and does not even suit him vocally.  he sounds really bored doing them.  It would be good if he pulled out 'surfer moon' again, or the lower key 'don't worry baby' for Brian to sing. No one can claim this song but Brian, no matter who else tries. 
I'd like to see some of these return from his 2002 Melbourne concert I was at:
You're Welcome
Wonderessence
imagination
til I die
melt away
good timin
little girl I once knew
this whole world
meant for you / friends
Marcella
I was in tears through this concert. hearing these live were really special


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 23, 2016, 11:28:42 PM
Only two more days til' I see BRIAN WILSON. Pinching myself  :o  :angel:  ;D  :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 23, 2016, 11:34:43 PM
lucky bugger!   full details upon your return ok?
some photo's, how about a setlist as well?  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 23, 2016, 11:38:04 PM
lucky bugger!   full details upon your return ok?
some photo's, how about a setlist as well?  ;D

Can do! :D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 23, 2016, 11:40:45 PM
you da man!   ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kiwi surfer on March 24, 2016, 01:23:42 AM
The 'preventative' addition of Billy Hinsche and Garry Griffin also points to that.

I believe Billy is not part of the first leg of the tour. I wish he was.

Less than 48 hours to go.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wantsomecorn on March 25, 2016, 09:36:02 AM
First show is today! Is anyone from here going?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TonyW on March 25, 2016, 10:59:02 AM
From across the ditch to our Kiwi cuzzie bros ... enjoy today!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 25, 2016, 12:47:14 PM
First show is today! Is anyone from here going?

Yo!

Noel Gallaghers band cancelled last night supposedly because their guitars got held up in Chile. Didums! Madonna was 2 hours late and pretty average a few weeks back. Expecting better things from the professionals tonight! :lol

https://www.facebook.com/officialbrianwilson/photos/a.452661542240.241240.34250497240/10154040605287241/?type=3&theater

edit: Just reading todays entertainment section in the paper and there is an interview with Al. Nothing new but a good line about the L&M movie.

"I had no idea I was that tall or good looking!"  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 25, 2016, 03:38:42 PM
Currently in Christchurch airport on my way to Auckland!! Can't believe this is happening :O


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 25, 2016, 06:16:34 PM
First show is today! Is anyone from here going?

Sure am :D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 01:13:45 AM
Brian hits the stage in a couple of hours!  New Zealand is the kickoff.  he has a touchdown photo on his website, he is looking pretty cool at 74.
have a good show Bri.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibw6UJzEWXA

does anyone have access to this?


Title: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:07:20 AM
It was everything I'd ever dreamed. Brian was amazing, Al was back in 1965, Matt blew the roof off. I am now an official Blondie disciple. Nothing can top that ever. For those curious aside from Pet Sounds they played:

Wake the World
Honkin Down The Highway
Funky Pretty
Wild Honey
In My Room
Don't Worry Baby (Matt)
Shut Down (Al)
Little Deuce (Al)
Barbara Ann
All Summer Long
California Girls
GV
Heroes and Villains (Bicycle Rider)
Our Prayer (Opened the show, I wept)
Love and Mercy
Surfin USA
One Kind of Love
I Get Around
 


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 03:13:17 AM
oh well!  nice!  that's great!  glad to hear the addition of some of those tracks.  look forward to those!
how was Brian going?


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:14:27 AM
oh well!  nice!  that's great!  glad to hear the addition of some of those tracks.  look forward to those!


I can't describe how incredible it was. The whole thing was awe inspiring. It'll most likely be the only time in my life I will see him and I'll treasure it forever


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:15:59 AM
Brian did stop a few times as expected but he often kept singing until Matt was forced to take the higher notes, his heart was definitely in it. Love and Mercy for me was better then amy version I'd ever heard. Blondie murdered the guitar too


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 03:16:27 AM
well done!  that'll be with you forever. To think you've seen the great Brian Wilson in person. It's a cool thing!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 03:17:54 AM
yeah Brian is Brian.  some nights he is ok, some nights, not so flash, sometimes just killer! 
depending on the song too makes a big difference to his performance.  He is up and down. Still, who cares. It's him!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:19:45 AM
well done!  that'll be with you forever. To think you've seen the great Brian Wilson in person. It's a cool thing!

I have so many great photos and videos too. This really is childlike joy for me. Al was so appreciative of the reception. Funny thing is (now I 100% am not starting a Mike argument here please) but when Al was singing Shut Down I had this sad twinge of sadness that the whole band wasn't together with Mike and Bruce there too even tho Al nailed it.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 03:22:25 AM
the setlist was posted on bw.com, did they do wild honey or leaving this town? as it was a choice on the list between the two.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:23:06 AM
the setlist was posted on bw.com, did they do wild honey or leaving this town? as it was a choice on the list between the two.

They did Wild Honey, the guitar solo's were almost metallic it was unreal


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 03:24:03 AM
great to hear that mate.  anybody missing from the band or any additional members you noticed?


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:26:27 AM
I also meet and spoke with Neil Finn afterward. He was near me in the crowd!!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:27:15 AM
great to hear that mate.  anybody missing from the band or any additional members you noticed?

Not that I noticed, Blondie didn't join until Sail On Sailor however (whoops forgot that one!)


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 03:30:24 AM
how many fans of Brian's who are big names are gonna be at his shows?  Many I know! even big stars have their heroes.
can't wait to see some pictures and or audio from tonight.  Awesome dude!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:35:29 AM
how many fans of Brian's who are big names are gonna be at his shows?  Many I know! even big stars have their heroes.
can't wait to see some pictures and or audio from tonight.  Awesome dude!

I'd post videos or photos from my phone if I could but I'm still on my phone at the Hostel :P travelled all the way from the deep south for the big fella! Should be able to post some clips tomorrow!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 26, 2016, 03:43:50 AM
The setlist posted on the bw.com site:

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u176/remmym/20160326_225146%20-%20Copy_zpshvaah2vg.jpg)


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: HeyJude on March 26, 2016, 03:45:22 AM
Might be better for future archival purposes to move this all over to the 2016 tour thread.....


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:46:55 AM
Might be better for future archival purposes to move this all over to the 2016 tour thread.....

My excitement got the better of me haha


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 26, 2016, 03:47:03 AM
As mentioned elsewhere, the not went to "Wild Honey" for this show. But very cool that "Leaving this Town" is in the rotation.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 26, 2016, 03:54:02 AM
Oh I'm so happy for you! And so glad that the tour got off to a wonderful start.

Will be seeing BW and co. in a little over a month - getting giddy already.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 03:54:09 AM
Ok. First show is done and dusted. A few quick notes before hitting the sack.

Opened with Prayer/ Heroes.
First half ended with Blondie hat- trick. Funky Pretty, Honey, SOS. No PS until second half so initial publicity of it being first half ditched. Also in first 'Honkin'. Good. but more volume needed on Als mic. FP good and Blondie called out "Its getting there!" Audience blown away by Matt doing DWB. Also a WTF was that with Blondie's set, but in a good way. It was totally unexpected for most.

Second half straight into PS then GV. Exit then encore with band intro. Standard closing songs plus L&M.

Nil NPP songs.
Did 'One Kind Of Love'
Matt and Brian shared leads and did dual leads on the PS songs. Al took a few lines plus Sloop. Blondie wandered on and off with tambourine. Matt on WIBN.
All leads during show by Brian, Al, Matt and Blondie.
I may be wrong but Al looked like he was expecting to sing parts of Add Some Music but Brian did the lot.


I didn't count or make a setlist but about 50 songs. Brian strong. Better than C50, Seemed fresh compared to 04 and the last Smile show for that year.. Al in white suit. Blondie was Blondie. Finally got to see him.

Tour program. Mike and Bruce are gone from the SD zoo shoot. Shame the bad blood has come to this.
Thanked Probyn in the foyer and wished him luck for the rest of the tour.

Thats about it for now. Probably more tomorrow and will look for a setlist from any other sites.
Great show and band as usual.

Edit.

Just noticed a setlist now up. Interesting about 'Town' was an option.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:54:23 AM
As mentioned elsewhere, the not went to "Wild Honey" for this show. But very cool that "Leaving this Town" is in the rotation.

Yup! It was Wild Honey for tonights show in Auckland. Still a few kinks in songs such as Honkin' and in parts of Wake The World (Al seemed to forget where hes cue to sing was XD )


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:55:14 AM
Oh I'm so happy for you! And so glad that the tour got off to a wonderful start.

Will be seeing BW and co. in a little over a month - getting giddy already.

Thanks man! It was truly just fantastic. I spent quite a sum to get here and I'd do it 100 times again


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 03:56:55 AM
Just noticed a dedicated thread so some notes from me already on the tour thread.

Ok. First show is done and dusted. A few quick notes before hitting the sack.

Opened with Prayer/ Heroes.
First half ended with Blondie hat- trick. Funky Pretty, Honey, SOS. No PS until second half so initial publicity of it being first half ditched. Also in first 'Honkin'. Good. but more volume needed on Als mic. FP good and Blondie called out "Its getting there!" Audience blown away by Matt doing DWB. Also a 'WTF was that?' with Blondie's set, but in a good way. It was totally unexpected for most.

Second half straight into PS then GV. Exit then encore with band intro. Standard closing songs plus L&M.

Nil NPP songs.
Did 'One Kind Of Love'
Matt and Brian shared leads and did dual leads on the PS songs. Al took a few lines plus Sloop. Blondie wandered on and off with tambourine. Matt on WIBN.
All leads during show by Brian, Al, Matt and Blondie.
I may be wrong but Al looked like he was expecting to sing parts of Add Some Music but Brian did the lot.


I didn't count or make a setlist but about 50 songs. Brian strong. Better than C50, Seemed fresh compared to 04 and the last Smile show for that year.. Al in white suit. Blondie was Blondie. Finally got to see him.

Tour program. Mike and Bruce are gone from the SD zoo shoot. Shame the bad blood has come to this.
Thanked Probyn in the foyer and wished him luck for the rest of the tour.

Thats about it for now. Probably more tomorrow and will look for a setlist from any other sites.
Great show and band as usual.

Edit.

Just noticed a setlist now up. Interesting  'Leaving This Town' was an option. About 40 songs, not 50.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:00:05 AM

All leads during show by Brian, Al, Matt and Blondie.
I may be wrong but Al looked like he was expecting to sing parts of Add Some Music but Brian did the lot.

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I noticed that too. Al seemed ready to come in on the "At a movie..." But Brian kept going haha  :lol


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 04:02:07 AM
great to hear that mate.  anybody missing from the band or any additional members you noticed?

Not that I noticed, Blondie didn't join until Sail On Sailor however (whoops forgot that one!)

Blondie joined at FP. Griffin, but no Scott or Billy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 04:03:22 AM
Oh yeah. He was at the mic with his mouth open. :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:06:16 AM
Oh yeah. He was at the mic with his mouth open. :lol

How great was Blondies guitar work with Nicky tho?!! Good lord that gave the show a serious rock push!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:07:11 AM
great to hear that mate.  anybody missing from the band or any additional members you noticed?

Not that I noticed, Blondie didn't join until Sail On Sailor however (whoops forgot that one!)

Blondie joined at FP. Griffin, but no Scott or Billy.

We knew no Billy before the show tho right?


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 04:09:21 AM
He was at the rehearsal prior to leaving the US, as was Griffin, but I didn't know who was making the trip until tonight.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 04:11:35 AM
how long was the gig?


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:11:49 AM
He was at the rehearsal prior to leaving the US, as was Griffin, but I didn't know who was making the trip until tonight.

Yes quite right. I thought that there might be a playing of "Right Time" seeing as Al was there and they had no other NPP songs. No biggie tho show was epic enough without it!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:12:22 AM
how long was the gig?

Roughly 2 hours 15 right Funky?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:17:53 AM
Also Al won over my opinion of "Honkin". I really liked it even tho before the concert it was tied for my least favourite Love You track. Kudos  :-D


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 04:18:52 AM
With the break that sounds about right. Still amazed at Blondie. Wow! What is he, coming up 65? Put the ROCK into Roll tonight.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:25:22 AM
With the break that sounds about right. Still amazed at Blondie. Wow! What is he, coming up 65? Put the ROCK into Roll tonight.

Legitimate super impressed. All that time with the Stones paid off!! Notice how Brian was completely blank faced as Blondie ripped his solo's while walking around tho?


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 26, 2016, 04:42:02 AM
Thanks to our New Zealand smilers for telling us how awesome the show was! 8)


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:51:19 AM
Thanks to our New Zealand smilers for telling us how awesome the show was! 8)

If tonight was the standard you are going to love it!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on March 26, 2016, 05:11:14 AM
Brian hits the stage in a couple of hours!  New Zealand is the kickoff.  he has a touchdown photo on his website, he is looking pretty cool at 74.
have a good show Bri.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibw6UJzEWXA

does anyone have access to this?

Yes!  Thank you for the heads up!  6h50m to go.


Can anyone easily grab the stream?



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 26, 2016, 05:57:43 AM
Exactly what I expected going into this...and that is NOT a bad thing! I still think they need to clear out some of those early hits...sure, keep "I Get Around" but the other car songs? Meh...and "Dance, Dance, Dance" has got to go, go, go......

Still, this is incredible that this is happening with these guys in 2016. Wishing them much love and mercy as it is a LONG road ahead this year!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: the captain on March 26, 2016, 07:13:35 AM
Great, and only six months or so until I get to see this show.

Wait, that's a long time.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Debbie KL on March 26, 2016, 07:28:54 AM
Great, and only six months or so until I get to see this show.

Wait, that's a long time.

Imagine how good and tight they'll be then, with Brian more comfortable and settled.  This was the first night and it was amazing, it appears!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Debbie KL on March 26, 2016, 07:43:17 AM
With the break that sounds about right. Still amazed at Blondie. Wow! What is he, coming up 65? Put the ROCK into Roll tonight.

Legitimate super impressed. All that time with the Stones paid off!! Notice how Brian was completely blank faced as Blondie ripped his solo's while walking around tho?

Yeah, Brian gets lost in the "listening" sometimes when it isn't his time to perform.  He isn't missing a thing in what's going on musically, and it often shows in his face, well, that way.  I'm pretty glad Brian's skill set is musical genius/genuine presence when he performs.  Brian will never be one of those slickster performers, thank heavens.  He can leave that to a Bill Murray parody.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on March 26, 2016, 08:58:37 AM
Funky Pretty? Honkin Down The Highway? H&V w/Bicycle Rider?! Lucky you! I need to get some tickets ASAP!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 26, 2016, 09:04:34 AM
It will of course be interesting to see how the setlist evolves over 80-plus dates. I would think "Cotton Fields" might come back for the UK. Hopefully it won't bump "Honkin'."


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: the captain on March 26, 2016, 09:09:38 AM
Great, and only six months or so until I get to see this show.

Wait, that's a long time.

Imagine how good and tight they'll be then, with Brian more comfortable and settled.  This was the first night and it was amazing, it appears!

Fair enough. And conversely, I believe the first show of the U.S. Smile tour in '04 was here, so I was on the leading end that time around.

My fingers are crossed to see some of these rarities: Honkin', Funky Pretty, etc. I'd also like to get some NPP stuff. Not that I'm greedy... (Yes, I am greedy.)


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: HeyJude on March 26, 2016, 09:13:07 AM
Promise I won't keep doing this, but how about moving discussion to the actual 2016 tour thread? That way, five years from now people will be able to find the discussion of this show by searching. Nobody will know to search for "Brian blew my mind" when they want to find out how opening night of the tour was.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 26, 2016, 09:17:46 AM
Exactly what I expected going into this...and that is NOT a bad thing! I still think they need to clear out some of those early hits...sure, keep "I Get Around" but the other car songs? Meh...and "Dance, Dance, Dance" has got to go, go, go......

Still, this is incredible that this is happening with these guys in 2016. Wishing them much love and mercy as it is a LONG road ahead this year!

"Dance Dance Dance" for some reason often gets played too slowly. Not sure why. That's one that often gets rotated out as a tour progresses, though.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: barsone on March 26, 2016, 10:17:42 AM
Good Lord, the October 8th show in Seattle seems like forever after reading your comments......enjoy this evenings show and can't wait to read your feedback


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 26, 2016, 12:22:14 PM
Brian hits the stage in a couple of hours!  New Zealand is the kickoff.  he has a touchdown photo on his website, he is looking pretty cool at 74.
have a good show Bri.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibw6UJzEWXA

does anyone have access to this?

Yes!  Thank you for the heads up!  6h50m to go.


Can anyone easily grab the stream?



If anyone is waiting on this, March 26th was yesterday in New Zealand.  There won't be any live stream because the concert already happened.  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on March 26, 2016, 12:29:30 PM
Brian hits the stage in a couple of hours!  New Zealand is the kickoff.  he has a touchdown photo on his website, he is looking pretty cool at 74.
have a good show Bri.

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibw6UJzEWXA

does anyone have access to this?

Yes!  Thank you for the heads up!  6h50m to go.


Can anyone easily grab the stream?



If anyone is waiting on this, March 26th was yesterday in New Zealand.  There won't be any live stream because the concert already happened.  :)


Yeah..  it looked like the link was working fine but at the time of start of the show (local NZ time) the streaming never started..


So, anyone who managed to grab the stream?







Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on March 26, 2016, 12:49:22 PM
Tour program. Mike and Bruce are gone from the SD zoo shoot. Shame the bad blood has come to this.

He probably knows Mike and Bruce would sue him for using their "likeness."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 26, 2016, 12:53:07 PM
Tour program. Mike and Bruce are gone from the SD zoo shoot. Shame the bad blood has come to this.

He probably knows Mike and Bruce would sue him for using their "likeness."

I believe it's been done before. ::)  Anyway, many of us won't care.  In fact some may be pleased.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Emdeeh on March 26, 2016, 01:09:47 PM
"Funky Pretty" -- very cool!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Lonely Summer on March 26, 2016, 02:19:44 PM
It was everything I'd ever dreamed. Brian was amazing, Al was back in 1965, Matt blew the roof off. I am now an official Blondie disciple. Nothing can top that ever. For those curious aside from Pet Sounds they played:

Wake the World
Honkin Down The Highway
Funky Pretty
Wild Honey
In My Room
Don't Worry Baby (Matt)
Shut Down (Al)
Little Deuce (Al)
Barbara Ann
All Summer Long
California Girls
GV
Heroes and Villains (Bicycle Rider)
Our Prayer (Opened the show, I wept)
Love and Mercy
Surfin USA
One Kind of Love
I Get Around
 
This is the band that should be called The Beach Boys. They play BB's music and 3 of the core guys are there. It's not a BW solo show, not with Al and Blondie there, and they're not playing BW solo tracks.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 02:49:24 PM
It was everything I'd ever dreamed. Brian was amazing, Al was back in 1965, Matt blew the roof off. I am now an official Blondie disciple. Nothing can top that ever. For those curious aside from Pet Sounds they played:

Wake the World
Honkin Down The Highway
Funky Pretty
Wild Honey
In My Room
Don't Worry Baby (Matt)
Shut Down (Al)
Little Deuce (Al)
Barbara Ann
All Summer Long
California Girls
GV
Heroes and Villains (Bicycle Rider)
Our Prayer (Opened the show, I wept)
Love and Mercy
Surfin USA
One Kind of Love
I Get Around
 
This is the band that should be called The Beach Boys. They play BB's music and 3 of the core guys are there. It's not a BW solo show, not with Al and Blondie there, and they're not playing BW solo tracks.

I consider myself blessed that I got to see 3 (technically) Beach Boys and some of Brians solo stuff, truly this was such a well thought out setlist.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Wrightfan on March 26, 2016, 03:03:20 PM
Here's some video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45sY0g9oRCw

Man, Matt's falsetto is unreal. Know it's been said before but damn.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 03:08:43 PM
Here's some video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45sY0g9oRCw

Man, Matt's falsetto is unreal. Know it's been said before but damn.

Don't Worry Baby was unbelievable.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 03:42:29 PM
It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?

Not guaranteed definitive but from memory...

'Don't Talk'     Brian and Matt
'WIBN'           Matt
'Sloop'             Al
'Caroline'        Brian only

others

'Believe'         Brian and Matt
'Thats Not'     Brian and Matt
'Waiting'        Brian and Matt
'GOK'             Brian only
'I Know'         Brian only?
'I Just Wasn't' Brian and Matt (Al during final exchange)

As my wife said, he was doing "God' and 'Caroline' solo no matter what!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 04:00:20 PM
L&M (thanks to Martin Renner from the BW board for posting)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQV_bEl_jOE

Liked Blondie's extra vocal on this.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Emily on March 26, 2016, 04:32:24 PM
I'm even more excited for next month having read this. Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 04:32:45 PM
It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?

Not guaranteed definitive but from memory...

'Don't Talk'     Brian and Matt
'WIBN'           Matt
'Sloop'             Al
'Caroline'        Brian only

others

'Believe'         Brian and Matt
'Thats Not'     Brian and Matt
'Waiting'        Brian and Matt
'GOK'             Brian only
'I Know'         Brian only?
'I Just Wasn't' Brian and Matt (Al during final exchange)

As my wife said, he was doing "God' and 'Caroline' solo no matter what!

I was fairly sure I heard Al sing a verse in I Know There's An Answer?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 26, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
L&M (thanks to Martin Renner from the BW board for posting)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQV_bEl_jOE

Liked Blondie's extra vocal on this.

Yes.  Maybe someday I can share how special this link was.  Perhaps, not.  In any case, many thanks.  It was a perfect treasure to me today.

Edit:  I too, loved Blondie's vocal.  I was one of the lucky ones who heard him with Flame.  He's an amazing talent to this very day.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Debbie KL on March 26, 2016, 05:54:13 PM
Here's some video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45sY0g9oRCw

Man, Matt's falsetto is unreal. Know it's been said before but damn.

Oh my - I'm sorry, but nobody sounds this good on the first night of a tour!  But this is Brian's brilliant band - many long-time members who know his every move and nuance, and other members who are intuitively perfect for him - Al, Matt and Blondie.  May I say, I have loved Blondie Chaplin since 1969?  Near perfection out of the gate, it appears.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 26, 2016, 06:11:56 PM
It was everything I'd ever dreamed. Brian was amazing, Al was back in 1965, Matt blew the roof off. I am now an official Blondie disciple. Nothing can top that ever. For those curious aside from Pet Sounds they played:

Wake the World
Honkin Down The Highway
Funky Pretty
Wild Honey
In My Room
Don't Worry Baby (Matt)
Shut Down (Al)
Little Deuce (Al)
Barbara Ann
All Summer Long
California Girls
GV
Heroes and Villains (Bicycle Rider)
Our Prayer (Opened the show, I wept)
Love and Mercy
Surfin USA
One Kind of Love
I Get Around
 
This is the band that should be called The Beach Boys. They play BB's music and 3 of the core guys are there. It's not a BW solo show, not with Al and Blondie there, and they're not playing BW solo tracks.

 :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhh!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Shady on March 26, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
Incredible, thanks so much for the reports everyone..

I am so excited for this show  :-D


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Debbie KL on March 26, 2016, 06:56:18 PM
It was everything I'd ever dreamed. Brian was amazing, Al was back in 1965, Matt blew the roof off. I am now an official Blondie disciple. Nothing can top that ever. For those curious aside from Pet Sounds they played:

Wake the World
Honkin Down The Highway
Funky Pretty
Wild Honey
In My Room
Don't Worry Baby (Matt)
Shut Down (Al)
Little Deuce (Al)
Barbara Ann
All Summer Long
California Girls
GV
Heroes and Villains (Bicycle Rider)
Our Prayer (Opened the show, I wept)
Love and Mercy
Surfin USA
One Kind of Love
I Get Around
 
This is the band that should be called The Beach Boys. They play BB's music and 3 of the core guys are there. It's not a BW solo show, not with Al and Blondie there, and they're not playing BW solo tracks.

 :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhh!

Oops - how did I miss that quote!?  Thanks OSD.  This band is glorious - saw them last July.  I can't imagine anyone coming close.  And I'm serious.  Look at all the actual BBs who still have talent and make music on this stage, with the family organic sound - gorgeous vocals.  I'm thrilled with this and can't wait to see all the shows I booked.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: donald on March 26, 2016, 07:47:56 PM
Looking at that tour schedule I am astounded that BW would take that on at this point.     


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: donald on March 26, 2016, 08:02:25 PM
amazed that BW is still doing this and glad he has the support of that fantastic vocal and musical crew.     glad for those of you who are able to see this level of excellence from BW and company.    I've had the good fortune of seeing BW and many of these people several times since 2000 at the original PS tours.    I may never get to experience that again but so glad some of you are able to experience this at this late date


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 08:06:04 PM
amazed that BW is still doing this and glad he has the support of that fantastic vocal and musical crew.     glad for those of you who are able to see this level of excellence from BW and company.    I've had the good fortune of seeing BW and many of these people several times since 2000 at the original PS tours.    I may never get to experience that again but so glad some of you are able to experience this at this late date

I'm glad we all get to see Brian!! Who would have guessed this back in 1980?!!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 08:16:21 PM
who would have guessed back in 1990?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 26, 2016, 08:45:42 PM
It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?

Not guaranteed definitive but from memory...

'Don't Talk'     Brian and Matt
'WIBN'           Matt
'Sloop'             Al
'Caroline'        Brian only

others

'Believe'         Brian and Matt
'Thats Not'     Brian and Matt
'Waiting'        Brian and Matt
'GOK'             Brian only
'I Know'         Brian only?
'I Just Wasn't' Brian and Matt (Al during final exchange)

As my wife said, he was doing "God' and 'Caroline' solo no matter what!

I was fairly sure I heard Al sing a verse in I Know There's An Answer?

You'd think they'd have Al sing on IKTAA, as he sings on the original, and he should be able to hit the high notes. 

Also, I wonder if Al is singing all of 'Sloop,' or alternating with Brian?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 26, 2016, 08:50:09 PM
Anyway, pretty awesome setlist.  I really hope that 'Honkin' Down the Highway,' 'and 'Wake The World' in particular, makes it to the Japan shows. 

If that's the setlist they end up playing, I'm going to be very happy--about the only thing I could ask for is 'Surf's Up,' 'California Saga' and one of the songs on side two of 'Today.'  But I suppose with two songs from 'Holland' already, having 'California Saga:  California' in there would be a bit much.

Also, it seems that they are really concentrating on stuff Brian wrote or co-wrote, hence we aren't getting stuff like 'California' or 'Leaving This Town.' 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on March 26, 2016, 08:52:14 PM
Anyway, pretty awesome setlist.  I really hope that 'Honkin' Down the Highway,' 'and 'Wake The World' in particular, makes it to the Japan shows. 

If that's the setlist they end up playing, I'm going to be very happy--about the only thing I could ask for is 'Surf's Up,' 'California Saga' and one of the songs on side two of 'Today.'  But I suppose with two songs from 'Holland' already, having 'California Saga:  California' in there would be a bit much.

Also, it seems that they are really concentrating on stuff Brian wrote or co-wrote, hence we aren't getting stuff like 'California' or 'Leaving This Town.' 

I wouldn't be surprised at all if any of the songs you mentioned pop-up at some point in the tour, or even become regulars!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kiwi surfer on March 26, 2016, 09:10:13 PM
Civic Theatre review

http://13thfloor.co.nz/reviews/concert-reviews/brian-wilson-civic-theatre-march-26-2016/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 09:27:20 PM
Civic Theatre review

http://13thfloor.co.nz/reviews/concert-reviews/brian-wilson-civic-theatre-march-26-2016/

Great review I thought. I was a bit worried that Brian might have gotten a poor review by some here in NZ that were unaware of his style, heard some murmurs throughout the crowd from casual listeners who seemed confused by his stop and start piano playing. Nevermind tho I loved it as I knew I would and its gotten some great reviews :D


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 09:30:59 PM
who would have guessed back in 1990?

Quite true! Gah I honestly haven't felt this fulfilled in a long time! What an experience  :angel:


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 09:33:39 PM
It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?

Not guaranteed definitive but from memory...

'Don't Talk'     Brian and Matt
'WIBN'           Matt
'Sloop'             Al
'Caroline'        Brian only

others

'Believe'         Brian and Matt
'Thats Not'     Brian and Matt
'Waiting'        Brian and Matt
'GOK'             Brian only
'I Know'         Brian only?
'I Just Wasn't' Brian and Matt (Al during final exchange)

As my wife said, he was doing "God' and 'Caroline' solo no matter what!

I was fairly sure I heard Al sing a verse in I Know There's An Answer?


Also, I wonder if Al is singing all of 'Sloop,' or alternating with Brian?

Damned if I can remember! Al started it  (Sloop) which surprised and threw me. Was expecting Brian. Will have to see if any YouTube clips appear.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 26, 2016, 09:34:36 PM
It'll be interesting to see how much of the PS leads Brian hands off to others on the upcoming tour. Foskett sang "Don't Talk" in its original key on its few 2013 performances. Will Matt sing it in the original key on the upcoming tour? Or will they lower it and have Brian sing it as he did in the past? Will Matt sing WIBN, or will Al? Or Brian? Will Matt fill in some falsetto bits (e.g the end of "Caroline, No")?

Not guaranteed definitive but from memory...

'Don't Talk'     Brian and Matt
'WIBN'           Matt
'Sloop'             Al
'Caroline'        Brian only

others

'Believe'         Brian and Matt
'Thats Not'     Brian and Matt
'Waiting'        Brian and Matt
'GOK'             Brian only
'I Know'         Brian only?
'I Just Wasn't' Brian and Matt (Al during final exchange)

As my wife said, he was doing "God' and 'Caroline' solo no matter what!

I was fairly sure I heard Al sing a verse in I Know There's An Answer?


Also, I wonder if Al is singing all of 'Sloop,' or alternating with Brian?

Damned if I can remember! Al started it which surprised and threw me. Was expecting Brian. Will have to see if any YouTube clips appear.

I have a video of the start of every song and bits and pieces of others I took from my phone. I'll post them at some point!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 09:37:05 PM
Civic Theatre review

http://13thfloor.co.nz/reviews/concert-reviews/brian-wilson-civic-theatre-march-26-2016/

Pretty much the way I saw it. Pleased for the group that it's positive.

Some more clips.

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLnzIZIYt8BIvg8WvyH7ZmjcXHBZBRJ8m


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 26, 2016, 09:37:37 PM
I know!  :o  It's Brian F&n! Wilson!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on March 26, 2016, 10:42:28 PM
Two questions:
1. Was Beaumont the Giraffe on stage?
2. What's the merch like?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 26, 2016, 11:25:39 PM
1 No
2 Check out the BW.com thread  ' Auckland Show Setlist Plus Photos'

http://www.brianwilson.com/community/



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kiwi surfer on March 27, 2016, 12:16:47 AM
Another, somewhat less informed, review.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11612499

While Funky Pretty has never done much for me and last night did nothing to change my mind, Wild Honey was an absolute highlight and Sail On Sailor wasn't far behind. The early 20s hipster in front of me audibly gasped when he heard the first note and had to wipe some tears away.

A few observations. I have seen Brian 6 or 7 times solo and around 10 times with the Beach Boys and I have never seen him so relaxed and dare I say, so happy.

There were lots of teens and 20 something's and they were right into it. Very knowledgeable and respectful too.

The merchandise stall had queues before, during and at least 30 minutes after the show. I wanted a Help Me Rhonda shirt but couldn't be bothered standing in line for so long.

From where I was the theatre appeared full (2300 plus) and ticket prices were the equivalent of around $135 US. They say the UK audiences are hip, well I reckon NZ and Australian audiences are too.

Don't Worry Baby was simply breath taking.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 12:31:27 AM
Another, somewhat less informed, review.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11612499

While Funky Pretty has never done much for me and last night did nothing to change my mind, Wild Honey was an absolute highlight and Sail On Sailor wasn't far behind. The early 20s hipster in front of me audibly gasped when he heard the first note and had to wipe some tears away.

A few observations. I have seen Brian 6 or 7 times solo and around 10 times with the Beach Boys and I have never seen him so relaxed and dare I say, so happy.

There were lots of teens and 20 something's and they were right into it. Very knowledgeable and respectful too.

The merchandise stall had queues before, during and at least 30 minutes after the show. I wanted a Help Me Rhonda shirt but couldn't be bothered standing in line for so long.

From where I was the theatre appeared full (2300 plus) and ticket prices were the equivalent of around $135 US. They say the UK audiences are hip, well I reckon NZ and Australian audiences are too.

Don't Worry Baby was simply breath taking.

All this and more!! I got a t-shirt and a poster (no Help Me Rhonda shirt although I wanted one!) I also may have been that early 20's hipster :P


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 12:34:22 AM
When they started with Our Prayer I was holding back tears my lord


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 27, 2016, 12:36:17 AM
Incredible experience alright Surfer.  I'm still coming down from the total thrill of it all.

Big thanks to Brian and the boys for starting the tour here in paradise.   :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 27, 2016, 01:10:44 AM
Hey Bonnie. Thanks for uploading those clips. Don't suppose you got Matt doing DWB?

edit: Oops. Got it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUkYZc6eKhs


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 27, 2016, 01:13:34 AM


Matt was amazing


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 27, 2016, 01:16:28 AM
Snap. Corrected, as above.

Audience taken by surprise don't you think? ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 27, 2016, 01:21:13 AM
You know, I was so absorbed I didn't even notice the rest of the audience!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 27, 2016, 01:27:57 AM
I was up in the gods and heard the crowd go off up there.

Also a correction to my PS leads thanks to you. 'Thats Not Me' Brian only I think. Not a shared lead with Matt as I thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqH32CmXVmg


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 01:37:09 AM
I was up in the gods and heard the crowd go off up there.

Also a correction to my PS leads thanks to you. 'Thats Not Me' Brian only I think. Not a shared lead with Matt as I thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqH32CmXVmg

Where abouts PF? I was also up top, also an emotional hipsterish looking early 20's year old!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 27, 2016, 01:43:41 AM
Check out Blondie rocking it out! 

https://youtu.be/zCZLAgFAhIY



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kiwi surfer on March 27, 2016, 02:00:40 AM
Snap. Corrected, as above.

Audience taken by surprise don't you think? ;)

I was downstairs and heck yes, the collective gasps all around me when Matt started DWB were quite staggering. I heard Matt several times in the late 80's and early 90's and I don't think he's lost anything.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 27, 2016, 02:03:14 AM
Listening to the audience reaction that clip says it all.

Blew me away.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 02:06:28 AM
Listening to the audience reaction that clip says it all.

Blew me away.

He absolutely nailed it, I've always preferred him over Foskett (not saying Foskett was anything to scoff at of course)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The_Holy_Bee on March 27, 2016, 02:12:31 AM
Hi guys, Funky Pretty and Kiwi Surfer have it pretty much covered but a couple of my own reactions to last night's show:

I thought Brian was, indeed, pretty relaxed and into it (for Brian). I last saw him at the very end of the 2004 Smile Tour, when they did comedy bits with the band in the first set and any onstage banter from Brian seemed scripted and occasionally reluctant. Last night, as he and Al struggled to define 'In My Room' and 'You Still Believe In Me' (settling, in the first instance, for a 'very pretty rock ballad' and, in the second, as somewhere between a 'ballad' and a (soft?) rock ballad) his comments seemed much more natural and unrehearsed. A lot less of what one of the band members once described to me as Brian's 'Sinatra moments' - 'Oh YEAH!'s and 'Rock ON's - and the trademark arm movements were comparatively restrained. Compared to twelve years ago, Brian seemed to me much more comfortable - and indeed, quite keen on - being recognised as the leader of the band, the man in the centre of things. 'Probably the best song I ever wrote', he confidently announced before singing (beautifully, though the closing round got a bit muddled) 'God Only Knows'.

This said - and perhaps because of a renewed (post-2012?) sense of place and purpose on the stage - I thought I felt a couple of moments of tension in Brian when other players pulled focus. During Blondie's strutting and soloing, for instance, Brian went quite slack; and this isn't just a result, I think, of his physical manner when not singing or playing the keys, because during the two Pet Sounds instrumentals he stayed much more erect and alert, appearing to engage with the music even while not actually playing on it. And there was a strange, slightly manic laugh during the opening verse of 'Don't Talk' which I thought might have been a reaction to a lack of applause to his previous (very committed) vocal on 'It's Not Me'. (It wasn't that the audience didn't enjoy the number, it just segued directly into 'Don't' and people weren't sure if they were meant to applaud. Same thing happened to Al at the end of 'Wake the World'.) A couple of the hand offs from Brian to Matt for the high parts seemed a bit terse too, but this was probably just a result of it being the first concert of the tour, and will be smoothed out in coming weeks. (Speaking of which, Brian did do a couple of lines in WIBN, I think the beginning of the bridge.)

But that stuff is nothing, really. When Brian was good (and he very often was, and sometimes very good), I thought he sang with a confidence and verve and sensitivity that exceeded what I heard from him over a decade ago. 'I Just Wasn't Made for These Times' was hugely moving. His rock and roll voice on 'I Get Around' was great. 'Heroes' - with Bicycle Rider! - was astonishing. GOK, as I said above, was spine-tingling in places, and 'One Kind of Love' and 'Love and Mercy'' genuinely beautiful. And the band, of course, was incredible as always, not only musically but in the pure love they showed to each other, Brian, Al and Blondie. Jokes and grooving and hugs throughout. A particular favourite moment: Nelson's grinning glee as he squeezed the bicycle horn at the end of 'You Still Believe in Me'.

Let's put it this way: I'm That Sort of Person who loathes 'Barbara Ann' with all of my being. After two hours in the company of these amazing musicians, I was singing along and jiving like a maniac to every 'Ba-Ba-Ba'.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and wanna follow what others have said before me: both Jardines were, of course, phenomenal.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 27, 2016, 02:18:28 AM
One for you Funky Pretty.  Wish I'd got the whole song

https://youtu.be/igVmT7Zy0aw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 02:22:57 AM

Let's put it this way: I'm That Sort of Person who loathes 'Barbara Ann' with all of my being. After two hours in the company of these amazing musicians, I was singing along and jiving like a maniac to every 'Ba-Ba-Ba'.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and wanna follow what others have said before me: both Jardines were, of course, phenomenal.


Exactly the same re Barbara Ann, possibly my least favourite BB song. One Kind of Love, L&M and Don't Talk were sung with such strong conviction from Brian it was beautiful. He really did seem to be trying to make a great start to the tour!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 27, 2016, 05:26:58 AM
My utter loathing for "Barbara-f******-Ann" is well known in these circles, and eclipsed only by my hatred of that twat Morrissey.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: J.G. Dev on March 27, 2016, 05:56:35 AM
Tour merchandise up on BW.com

http://brianwilson.shop.livenation.com/store/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on March 27, 2016, 06:01:46 AM
It's so exciting hearing the reports from Auckland, from the "young'uns".

Now on to Australia, where it's turning to Monday now. Learning the differences in time zones from US Central Time-  18 hours difference from Auckland, 16 hours from Byron Bay and Sydney. He goes on around 18.45 today (Monday)

Keep the reports coming. Looking forward to seeing them next month. Will even happily endure 'Barbara Ann'!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 27, 2016, 07:38:52 AM
It was everything I'd ever dreamed. Brian was amazing, Al was back in 1965, Matt blew the roof off. I am now an official Blondie disciple. Nothing can top that ever. For those curious aside from Pet Sounds they played:

Wake the World
Honkin Down The Highway
Funky Pretty
Wild Honey
In My Room
Don't Worry Baby (Matt)
Shut Down (Al)
Little Deuce (Al)
Barbara Ann
All Summer Long
California Girls
GV
Heroes and Villains (Bicycle Rider)
Our Prayer (Opened the show, I wept)
Love and Mercy
Surfin USA
One Kind of Love
I Get Around
 
This is the band that should be called The Beach Boys. They play BB's music and 3 of the core guys are there. It's not a BW solo show, not with Al and Blondie there, and they're not playing BW solo tracks.

 :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh yeahhhhhhh!

Oops - how did I miss that quote!?  Thanks OSD.  This band is glorious - saw them last July.  I can't imagine anyone coming close.  And I'm serious.  Look at all the actual BBs who still have talent and make music on this stage, with the family organic sound - gorgeous vocals.  I'm thrilled with this and can't wait to see all the shows I booked.

Ain't Nothin' Like The Real Thing, huh Deb?? Now, about that license...


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Ang Jones on March 27, 2016, 08:05:59 AM
Three Beach Boys and a Beach Boy's son. It's not THE Beach Boys but it's the closest we can get.

Thanks to those who've posted reviews!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 27, 2016, 08:12:13 AM
I need to see this tour! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 27, 2016, 10:01:23 AM
Tour merchandise up on BW.com

http://brianwilson.shop.livenation.com/store/

Wow! In Auckland the program was $20 and the poster $10 I believe. (About 15 and 7 US)

SurferDownUnder. Row S dead centre. Could see Brian's foot tapping.

Bonnie. Thanks again for the clips.

Holy Bee. Yes it was a bit of a work in progress on the night, but as someone else said it was proof that this was a real band and not some backing track. I loved it as those guys switched instruments between songs and called out 'l'm not ready yet' or 'Wait' as they moved around.
Not sure about the comment about Brian and Blondie. Looking at clips from past shows he looks disinterested during WH etc but he is still on the tour so who knows?


We knew how good Matt was but I think when Al introduced him most in the audience thought 'Aawwww how nice, he's got his son with him. Oh and he's aloud to sing a song too. Ain't that cute....' until they realised 'Holy Crap...This guy CAN sing! :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pet Sounder on March 27, 2016, 11:00:54 AM
Is there still going to be a Chicago show?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 27, 2016, 11:41:25 AM
You know, I was so absorbed I didn't even notice the rest of the audience!



Yes, thanks again, Bonnie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 27, 2016, 11:48:20 AM
Tour merchandise up on BW.com

http://brianwilson.shop.livenation.com/store/

Wow! In Auckland the program was $20 and the poster $10 I believe. (About 15 and 7 US)

SurferDownUnder. Row S dead centre. Could see Brian's foot tapping.

Bonnie. Thanks again for the clips.

Holy Bee. Yes it was a bit of a work in progress on the night, but as someone else said it was proof that this was a real band and not some backing track. I loved it as those guys switched instruments between songs and called out 'l'm not ready yet' or 'Wait' as they moved around.
Not sure about the comment about Brian and Blondie. Looking at clips from past shows he looks disinterested during WH etc but he is still on the tour so who knows?


We knew how good Matt was but I think when Al introduced him most in the audience thought 'Aawwww how nice, he's got his son with him. Oh and he's aloud to sing a song too. Ain't that cute....' until they realised 'Holy Crap...This guy CAN sing! :lol

You know I love you guys, but I kind of think that there's one thing that's obvious - the mutual respect that Brian and Blondie have for each other, as they've stated publicly, and with the fact that Brian hired Blondie to do this tour after touring with him last year, and that Blondie - a very "in demand" guy - agreed to do it.  If Brian didn't love what Blondie does, he wouldn't have him in his band, and if Blondie didn't love what Brian does, he has lots of other offers.  I said it several pages back, but I'll repeat it, Brian often sits "stone faced" when he's listening to music because he's listening and that's how he looks when that happens - he's serious about music.  I've seen him listening to his favorite records doing the exact same thing.  It's him. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wilsonart1 on March 27, 2016, 11:55:04 AM
Thank You Debbie!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 27, 2016, 12:07:25 PM
Tour merchandise up on BW.com

http://brianwilson.shop.livenation.com/store/

Wow! In Auckland the program was $20 and the poster $10 I believe. (About 15 and 7 US)

SurferDownUnder. Row S dead centre. Could see Brian's foot tapping.

Bonnie. Thanks again for the clips.

Holy Bee. Yes it was a bit of a work in progress on the night, but as someone else said it was proof that this was a real band and not some backing track. I loved it as those guys switched instruments between songs and called out 'l'm not ready yet' or 'Wait' as they moved around.
Not sure about the comment about Brian and Blondie. Looking at clips from past shows he looks disinterested during WH etc but he is still on the tour so who knows?


We knew how good Matt was but I think when Al introduced him most in the audience thought 'Aawwww how nice, he's got his son with him. Oh and he's aloud to sing a song too. Ain't that cute....' until they realised 'Holy Crap...This guy CAN sing! :lol

You know I love you guys, but I kind of think that there's one thing that's obvious - the mutual respect that Brian and Blondie have for each other, as they've stated publicly, and with the fact that Brian hired Blondie to do this tour after touring with him last year, and that Blondie - a very "in demand" guy - agreed to do it.  If Brian didn't love what Blondie does, he wouldn't have him in his band, and if Blondie didn't love what Brian does, he has lots of other offers.  I said it several pages back, but I'll repeat it, Brian often sits "stone faced" when he's listening to music because he's listening and that's how he looks when that happens - he's serious about music.  I've seen him listening to his favorite records doing the exact same thing.  It's him. 

My daughter does the same thing...I asked her about it, and she was like 'cause I get inside the music, that's why...it's like I go somewhere else, just me and the music'.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The_Holy_Bee on March 27, 2016, 03:03:49 PM
Pretty Funky, Debbie - I definitely felt Brian was very happy to have Blondie on tour with them. If he wasn't, after all, why would Blondie be? It was only during the extended guitar soloing I suspected any tension, and absolutely that's just my interpretation. Very probably wrong.

Also, I thought Blondie was absolutely brilliant as well. Really dug 'Pretty Funky', which I didn't expect. Should have mentioned that above.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 27, 2016, 03:20:26 PM
Tour merchandise up on BW.com

http://brianwilson.shop.livenation.com/store/

Wow! In Auckland the program was $20 and the poster $10 I believe. (About 15 and 7 US)

SurferDownUnder. Row S dead centre. Could see Brian's foot tapping.

Bonnie. Thanks again for the clips.

Holy Bee. Yes it was a bit of a work in progress on the night, but as someone else said it was proof that this was a real band and not some backing track. I loved it as those guys switched instruments between songs and called out 'l'm not ready yet' or 'Wait' as they moved around.
Not sure about the comment about Brian and Blondie. Looking at clips from past shows he looks disinterested during WH etc but he is still on the tour so who knows?


We knew how good Matt was but I think when Al introduced him most in the audience thought 'Aawwww how nice, he's got his son with him. Oh and he's aloud to sing a song too. Ain't that cute....' until they realised 'Holy Crap...This guy CAN sing! :lol

You know I love you guys, but I kind of think that there's one thing that's obvious - the mutual respect that Brian and Blondie have for each other, as they've stated publicly, and with the fact that Brian hired Blondie to do this tour after touring with him last year, and that Blondie - a very "in demand" guy - agreed to do it.  If Brian didn't love what Blondie does, he wouldn't have him in his band, and if Blondie didn't love what Brian does, he has lots of other offers.  I said it several pages back, but I'll repeat it, Brian often sits "stone faced" when he's listening to music because he's listening and that's how he looks when that happens - he's serious about music.  I've seen him listening to his favorite records doing the exact same thing.  It's him. 

My daughter does the same thing...I asked her about it, and she was like 'cause I get inside the music, that's why...it's like I go somewhere else, just me and the music'.

Billy - Bingo!  You got it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: srv1303 on March 27, 2016, 04:19:21 PM
Longtime lurker, first time poster.

Going to the Vegas and SF shows. Beyond excited. Thanks for the video links, July 1st can't come soon enough!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 27, 2016, 05:33:31 PM
Is there still going to be a Chicago show?

July 16th, Pitchfork Festival.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 07:15:38 PM
http://imgur.com/zvzYS9B

http://imgur.com/CBVlQdS

This is what my T-Shirt looks like if anyone is interested!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 07:18:54 PM
Also a top down view of the stage set-up I took

http://imgur.com/iS0YG9R


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 07:42:51 PM
Also, sorry for multi-posting but here is One Kind of Love, I recorded snippets of all the songs so if you have any requests don't hesitate!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dq0zv1fyh8&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 27, 2016, 08:55:06 PM
Brian sounds in good voice, even if a little choppy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
Brian sounds in good voice, even if a little choppy.

Apart from slight hiccups such as the start of OKL he starter most songs strong particularly I thought GOK


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 27, 2016, 09:19:59 PM
of the course we know the man gets nervous as hell.  It's not that he can't, it's that he gets stage fright too.
even after all these years.  I'm glad a lot of us can cut the guy a little slack.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bossaroo on March 27, 2016, 10:32:45 PM
(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/44192e43f1e344978443038dec60b40e.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 27, 2016, 10:42:53 PM
(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/44192e43f1e344978443038dec60b40e.jpg)

He should have gotten one with a Kiwi!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: orange22 on March 27, 2016, 10:43:38 PM
'Probably the best song I ever wrote', he confidently announced before singing (beautifully, though the closing round got a bit muddled) 'God Only Knows'.

Interesting (but not surprising) for him to acknowledge that. With all he's done, that is his "best" song in his own opinion.

I agree that Brian seems more confident and happy, even from the Jeff Beck tour I think- which I did see, but haven't seen him since, just judging from videos.
I think Brian's more confident than me now   :o


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on March 28, 2016, 01:28:03 AM
Bizarre New Zealand Herald review laying into Blondie!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on March 28, 2016, 01:56:56 AM
And here it is!

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11612499

Guess the reviewer doesn't like those songs. Still a decent review.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 28, 2016, 02:11:30 AM
I personally prefer Matt over Foskett...  I'm not one of those Foskett haters at all (seems like a great guy and obviously a great singer and support for Brian over the years), but his voice often sounds a bit shrill to me.  I did enjoy hearing him singing DWB during the 2012 tour, but based on the comments here, I'm REALLY looking forward to hearing Matt tackle it! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 28, 2016, 02:46:00 AM
I personally prefer Matt over Foskett...  I'm not one of those Foskett haters at all (seems like a great guy and obviously a great singer and support for Brian over the years), but his voice often sounds a bit shrill to me.  I did enjoy hearing him singing DWB during the 2012 tour, but based on the comments here, I'm REALLY looking forward to hearing Matt tackle it! 

Matt really was superb, patient and didn't seem imposing in the songs. I agree with Foskett being a tad shrill but even he is in his 50's so the strain of the falsetto may be setting in (even tho I suppose Matt is 48!)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 28, 2016, 03:39:00 AM
If there was a photo of Al with a kiwi (as in the bird variety) it would look something like this.











Dark.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 28, 2016, 04:29:45 AM
Three Beach Boys and a Beach Boy's son. It's not THE Beach Boys but it's the closest we can get.

Sort of a... Beach Boys Family & Friends?

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 28, 2016, 04:41:06 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Ang Jones on March 28, 2016, 06:13:14 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 

It isn't my decision of course but I don't see why Brian needs to get back together with Mike and Bruce. Brian has an excellent band and at the moment two other Beach Boys and the son of Al Jardine are touring with him. It isn't just about politics - it's about how well these people manage to get on together and on past experience, things go wrong and they did last time. I don't see what either Mike or Bruce could add to Brian's shows other than the knowledge that most of the surviving Beach Boys were back together again.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 28, 2016, 06:29:52 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 

It isn't my decision of course but I don't see why Brian needs to get back together with Mike and Bruce. Brian has an excellent band and at the moment two other Beach Boys and the son of Al Jardine are touring with him. It isn't just about politics - it's about how well these people manage to get on together and on past experience, things go wrong and they did last time. I don't see what either Mike or Bruce could add to Brian's shows other than the knowledge that most of the surviving Beach Boys were back together again.

You're exactly right, Ang, myKe and Br00th have nothing to add to Brian's band-nothing but their baggage. Of course, if they'd turn over the name to Brian with the promise to go away...


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Angua on March 28, 2016, 06:42:43 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 

They do stellar things without Mike and Bruce.  In fact I think that Mike and Bruce's interpretation lowers the quality.  

I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Mike and Bruce ever again.  Even if Brian wanted to and there were no 'political' problems it would reduce my enjoyment, not least of all because you don't know how it would all go wrong again.  Last time there was little sign of them enjoying each other's company - before the show they were waiting in the wings, separate from each other and not talking.  On stage there was a good bit of sniping.  Whereas with Brian's band they make it clear that they feel respect for Brian and show him support.

Sorry but I'm not going to mince my words on this issue any longer.  I want to make it clear to Brian and his management that they shouldn't get together with them on my account.  I hope everyone who feels the same way will make their feelings clear too.  Those in favour have been banging on about it for years so it's time those of us who are not should stand up and be counted.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Ang Jones on March 28, 2016, 06:47:37 AM
Three Beach Boys and a Beach Boy's son. It's not THE Beach Boys but it's the closest we can get.

Sort of a... Beach Boys Family & Friends?

Cheers,
Jon Blum

Cheers Jon! You're right... but I suppose they couldn't use that name without being taken to task for it!

Never mind - what's in a name? as Shakespeare once wrote. The name Brian Wilson sounds good enough to me!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2016, 07:13:09 AM
Bizarre New Zealand Herald review laying into Blondie!

I don't agree with the comments about Blondie, and there are several tells that the reviewer isn't a super knowledgeable fan ("Wild Honey" isn't a 70s song, and I really question the painfully obvious "Brian's voice isn't what it used to be" commentaries after nearly 17 years of solo touring and really at least 40 years of Brian's "new", "non-youthful-falsetto" voice, including several "down under" tours; it's not as if he's never been to the New Zealand/Australia region since 1964).

But I can see how certain types of BB/BW fans might not be into Blondie's thing. It's very different from what you usually see in a Brian show. I think it's great, and Blondie kicks the entire band in the ass a little bit and injects energy into the whole thing (and not just his songs; his mere presence on the tours I think rejuvenates them a little bit). But if you're pretty exclusively into Brian's lush, meticulous arrangements, I can see how an extended Blondie guitar solo might not be your thing. His voice is also an acquired taste. I heard people walking away from the venue after the show opening night of the 2015 tour complaining about Blondie's voice (which, while I love Brian too, is a bit "rich" of a complaint coming from someone who thinks Brian's voice is pristine).  Again, I think it's great and for the first time *since* Blondie's time in the band, some BB-related band is *finally* doing something to represent one of the band's most-celebrated periods. 


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 28, 2016, 07:15:49 AM
It isn't my decision of course but I don't see why Brian needs to get back together with Mike and Bruce. Brian has an excellent band and at the moment two other Beach Boys and the son of Al Jardine are touring with him. It isn't just about politics - it's about how well these people manage to get on together and on past experience, things go wrong and they did last time. I don't see what either Mike or Bruce could add to Brian's shows other than the knowledge that most of the surviving Beach Boys were back together again.

I actually agree. Mike and Bruce do a great show. Brian and Al do a great show. They both have superb bands. We get to choose which to see, or get to see both if we want to. There are obviously personal problems between various of the principals, and they're in their seventies now and those problems are unlikely to change. I don't want to force a bunch of old men who don't get on (or whose wives don't get on, or whatever the personal problems between them actually are) to work together unhappily.

If they did get back together, obviously I'd go and see them, but I'd only want them to do that if it would make them all happier than being apart does, and I don't see that ever happening. And I'm not particularly upset by that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2016, 07:24:44 AM
I personally prefer Matt over Foskett...  I'm not one of those Foskett haters at all (seems like a great guy and obviously a great singer and support for Brian over the years), but his voice often sounds a bit shrill to me.  I did enjoy hearing him singing DWB during the 2012 tour, but based on the comments here, I'm REALLY looking forward to hearing Matt tackle it! 

Matt really was superb, patient and didn't seem imposing in the songs. I agree with Foskett being a tad shrill but even he is in his 50's so the strain of the falsetto may be setting in (even tho I suppose Matt is 48!)

I think these veteran falsetto guys like Matt Jardine and Foskett are impressive in their longevity, singing falsetto parts in their original key into the 50s (or near 50s). Nobody in the BBs barring Al Jardine really kept anything approaching their original voice intact past age 50. Carl sang great to the end, but his voice was a somewhat different type of great by the 90s. Bruce could still continue to hit high notes, but developed the rasp thing for whatever reason.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Debbie KL on March 28, 2016, 07:57:49 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 

They do stellar things without Mike and Bruce.  In fact I think that Mike and Bruce's interpretation lowers the quality.  

I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Mike and Bruce ever again.  Even if Brian wanted to and there were no 'political' problems it would reduce my enjoyment, not least of all because you don't know how it would all go wrong again.  Last time there was little sign of them enjoying each other's company - before the show they were waiting in the wings, separate from each other and not talking.  On stage there was a good bit of sniping.  Whereas with Brian's band they make it clear that they feel respect for Brian and show him support.

Sorry but I'm not going to mince my words on this issue any longer.  I want to make it clear to Brian and his management that they shouldn't get together with them on my account.  I hope everyone who feels the same way will make their feelings clear too.  Those in favour have been banging on about it for years so it's time those of us who are not should stand up and be counted.

I've loved Brian's band since the beginning, and like many others have traveled a few continents to see them over the years.  Remarkably, now this band is the best it's ever been and Brian is clearly loving it.  I'm another person who has no desire to see that change.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on March 28, 2016, 08:50:55 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 

They do stellar things without Mike and Bruce.  In fact I think that Mike and Bruce's interpretation lowers the quality.  

I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Mike and Bruce ever again.  Even if Brian wanted to and there were no 'political' problems it would reduce my enjoyment, not least of all because you don't know how it would all go wrong again.  Last time there was little sign of them enjoying each other's company - before the show they were waiting in the wings, separate from each other and not talking.  On stage there was a good bit of sniping.  Whereas with Brian's band they make it clear that they feel respect for Brian and show him support.

Sorry but I'm not going to mince my words on this issue any longer.  I want to make it clear to Brian and his management that they shouldn't get together with them on my account.  I hope everyone who feels the same way will make their feelings clear too.  Those in favour have been banging on about it for years so it's time those of us who are not should stand up and be counted.

 :h5 :h5


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: drbeachboy on March 28, 2016, 09:17:06 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 

They do stellar things without Mike and Bruce.  In fact I think that Mike and Bruce's interpretation lowers the quality. 

I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Mike and Bruce ever again.  Even if Brian wanted to and there were no 'political' problems it would reduce my enjoyment, not least of all because you don't know how it would all go wrong again.  Last time there was little sign of them enjoying each other's company - before the show they were waiting in the wings, separate from each other and not talking.  On stage there was a good bit of sniping.  Whereas with Brian's band they make it clear that they feel respect for Brian and show him support.

Sorry but I'm not going to mince my words on this issue any longer.  I want to make it clear to Brian and his management that they shouldn't get together with them on my account.  I hope everyone who feels the same way will make their feelings clear too.  Those in favour have been banging on about it for years so it's time those of us who are not should stand up and be counted.
Honestly, all the hate in here has really rubbed off on me. Anymore, I don't care what they do together or apart. This place has made me sick to death of the entire Beach Boys thing. I have no desire to see any of them anymore. Since the new year, I have hardly played any of their music. If that was effect and affect you guys are going for; it worked! Never in my wildest dreams would I expect a Beach Boys fan board to turn me off to my ex-favorite band. Well done, people.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 28, 2016, 10:18:38 AM
Tour merchandise up on BW.com

A program book -- hooray!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Angua on March 28, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys!  


They do stellar things without Mike and Bruce.  In fact I think that Mike and Bruce's interpretation lowers the quality.  

I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Mike and Bruce ever again.  Even if Brian wanted to and there were no 'political' problems it would reduce my enjoyment, not least of all because you don't know how it would all go wrong again.  Last time there was little sign of them enjoying each other's company - before the show they were waiting in the wings, separate from each other and not talking.  On stage there was a good bit of sniping.  Whereas with Brian's band they make it clear that they feel respect for Brian and show him support.

Sorry but I'm not going to mince my words on this issue any longer.  I want to make it clear to Brian and his management that they shouldn't get together with them on my account.  I hope everyone who feels the same way will make their feelings clear too.  Those in favour have been banging on about it for years so it's time those of us who are not should stand up and be counted.
Honestly, all the hate in here has really rubbed off on me. Anymore, I don't care what they do together or apart. This place has made me sick to death of the entire Beach Boys thing. I have no desire to see any of them anymore. Since the new year, I have hardly played any of their music. If that was effect and affect you guys are going for; it worked! Never in my wildest dreams would I expect a Beach Boys fan board to turn me off to my ex-favorite band. Well done, people.

It wasn't this board that put me off the Beach Boys.  

A bit strange that you find yourself unable to listen to the music but can continue to post here.

Please don't let us detain you.  By the way I don't like the 'forgive us our wife and Managers' line in your prayer.

To keep this on topic and to be positive - to all those who have been and are going to the concerts, I'm really thrilled for you all (and myself).  Lots to look forward to!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
Looks like the new tour merch is all "backordered" right now (I'm guessing they posted the items before they actually had the stock). I like that a program and poster exist.

I wish they'd do something more unique with the logo designs and especially the posters. The poster is very "corporate graphic design" instead of being anything approaching the style or spirit of great "concert poster" art. Even back in 2006 and 2007 they were doing more unique, hand-pulled style textured posters for specific shows or short runs of shows. Some great Brian stuff was being done all the way back in 1999 even.

I don't like that nothing other than one or two t-shirts even lists cities, and nothing lists dates or venues.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: drbeachboy on March 28, 2016, 12:34:57 PM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 


They do stellar things without Mike and Bruce.  In fact I think that Mike and Bruce's interpretation lowers the quality. 

I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Mike and Bruce ever again.  Even if Brian wanted to and there were no 'political' problems it would reduce my enjoyment, not least of all because you don't know how it would all go wrong again.  Last time there was little sign of them enjoying each other's company - before the show they were waiting in the wings, separate from each other and not talking.  On stage there was a good bit of sniping.  Whereas with Brian's band they make it clear that they feel respect for Brian and show him support.

Sorry but I'm not going to mince my words on this issue any longer.  I want to make it clear to Brian and his management that they shouldn't get together with them on my account.  I hope everyone who feels the same way will make their feelings clear too.  Those in favour have been banging on about it for years so it's time those of us who are not should stand up and be counted.
Honestly, all the hate in here has really rubbed off on me. Anymore, I don't care what they do together or apart. This place has made me sick to death of the entire Beach Boys thing. I have no desire to see any of them anymore. Since the new year, I have hardly played any of their music. If that was effect and affect you guys are going for; it worked! Never in my wildest dreams would I expect a Beach Boys fan board to turn me off to my ex-favorite band. Well done, people.

Please don't let us detain you.  By the way I don't like the 'forgive us our wife and Managers' line in your prayer.

I didn't write it, Hypehat did. Plus, I don't give a sh*t whether you like it or not. See, the hate you send out does return to you or was that a smile?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2016, 01:06:02 PM
It appears there was an orchestra of some size at the Bluesfest show, which may have been advertised and I just missed it. No setlist I can find yet. I doubt it was much different from the previous night, but I'm curious if they tried "Leaving this Town." Or maybe they did a shorter show because it was a festival gig?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 28, 2016, 01:35:18 PM
I was wondering if 'Wild Honey' or 'Leaving This Town' might be a typo? Both WH and SOS have been consistent since Blondie joined and it would be strange to have 2 new songs on the same bill in Auckland ie FP, LTT and SOS.

I'm thinking: 'Funky Pretty' or 'Leaving This Town'
                    'Wild Honey'
                    'Sail On Sailor'

    .....would have made more sense until both new songs were nailed down?


     


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2016, 02:08:35 PM
Hard to say until more setlists pop up. "Leaving the Town" is a full Blondie lead just as "Wild Honey" is, so in that sense it makes sense to swap them back and forth. Then if "Funky Pretty" is a shared lead as on the original record (Al sang on the studio and "In Concert" album versions, and perhaps Brian sings some lines too?), it kind of takes the place of "Sail Away" from last year. So the notations on the setlist made sense to me.

But I haven't heard any firm reports as to whether Blondie sang *all* of "Funky Pretty" or not. It's weird though, that they bring him out on tour and don't just give him four songs instead of three. He's presumably going to travel the world for 80+ shows to come on stage for three songs per night (plus some encore numbers), so why not just make it four at least?


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Don Malcolm on March 28, 2016, 02:10:17 PM
Guys, guys. There just isn't enough time left in the lives of these folks--no matter who you deem to be the "heroes" and who the "villains"--for any of us to wallow in the "anti-positivity." If you favor M&B, go see them; if you favor B&A&B plus M, go see them. Enjoy the music and the various folks who were involved in creating it while we still can!

If they never regroup, we will always have 2012...we really have to just be grateful for whatever we get. Really!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 28, 2016, 03:07:59 PM
Blondie did the FP lead Saturday. Others may come in later but just him first time out.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 28, 2016, 03:49:37 PM
Guys, guys. There just isn't enough time left in the lives of these folks--no matter who you deem to be the "heroes" and who the "villains"--for any of us to wallow in the "anti-positivity." If you favor M&B, go see them; if you favor B&A&B plus M, go see them. Enjoy the music and the various folks who were involved in creating it while we still can!

If they never regroup, we will always have 2012...we really have to just be grateful for whatever we get. Really!


Amen Don. I always wanted to see a Bee Gees concert before they stopped touring and now only Barry is still around and seldomly touring. I had the once in a lifetime oppurtunity to see BRIAN WILSON live in my lifetime and I'll never take it for granted!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Ang Jones on March 28, 2016, 03:57:25 PM
Guys, guys. There just isn't enough time left in the lives of these folks--no matter who you deem to be the "heroes" and who the "villains"--for any of us to wallow in the "anti-positivity." If you favor M&B, go see them; if you favor B&A&B plus M, go see them. Enjoy the music and the various folks who were involved in creating it while we still can!

If they never regroup, we will always have 2012...we really have to just be grateful for whatever we get. Really!


It should certainly be about the here and now, not constantly hankering over the past. The originals are touring albeit in separate bands. We don't need them to be together in order to appreicate whichever concerts we go to see.

As for the 'hate' to which drbeachboy refers, that isn't just down to the fans but is caused by the differences between band members, which has caused factions to develop.

I don't need to look back to 2012 to be happy about the music - there is plenty to appreciate right now and in years to come perhaps we will be looking back at this tour as one of the highlights. I hope so.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: lee on March 28, 2016, 04:06:45 PM
I'd prefer it if they gave Blondie all four songs with Leaving This Town taking place of Shut Down or Little Deuce Coupe.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 28, 2016, 04:17:50 PM
Blondie did the FP lead Saturday. Others may come in later but just him first time out.

Interesting, as he's only one of four lead vocalists on the original recording. Then again, Brian, Al, and Blondie seemed to sometimes mess up the lead vocal cues on "Sail Away", so "Funky Pretty" might be even more challenging for them in that regard.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: drbeachboy on March 28, 2016, 04:47:11 PM
Guys, guys. There just isn't enough time left in the lives of these folks--no matter who you deem to be the "heroes" and who the "villains"--for any of us to wallow in the "anti-positivity." If you favor M&B, go see them; if you favor B&A&B plus M, go see them. Enjoy the music and the various folks who were involved in creating it while we still can!

If they never regroup, we will always have 2012...we really have to just be grateful for whatever we get. Really!


It should certainly be about the here and now, not constantly hankering over the past. The originals are touring albeit in separate bands. We don't need them to be together in order to appreicate whichever concerts we go to see.

As for the 'hate' to which drbeachboy refers, that isn't just down to the fans but is caused by the differences between band members, which has caused factions to develop.

I don't need to look back to 2012 to be happy about the music - there is plenty to appreciate right now and in years to come perhaps we will be looking back at this tour as one of the highlights. I hope so.
I've said it many times in here and I will say it again. The hate that goes on here is way over the line as compared to how the guys feel about each other. I cannot see how hating on Mike more than how Brian or Mike feel about each other accomplishes anything more than just writing it here to stir up sh*t. This was a great thread going until the Mike haters interjected and started the thread downhill. It was quite refreshing to read the all good things that happened at Brian's show and how excited the attendees were about the playlist and being there.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 28, 2016, 04:56:07 PM
Guys, guys. There just isn't enough time left in the lives of these folks--no matter who you deem to be the "heroes" and who the "villains"--for any of us to wallow in the "anti-positivity." If you favor M&B, go see them; if you favor B&A&B plus M, go see them. Enjoy the music and the various folks who were involved in creating it while we still can!

If they never regroup, we will always have 2012...we really have to just be grateful for whatever we get. Really!


It should certainly be about the here and now, not constantly hankering over the past. The originals are touring albeit in separate bands. We don't need them to be together in order to appreicate whichever concerts we go to see.

As for the 'hate' to which drbeachboy refers, that isn't just down to the fans but is caused by the differences between band members, which has caused factions to develop.

I don't need to look back to 2012 to be happy about the music - there is plenty to appreciate right now and in years to come perhaps we will be looking back at this tour as one of the highlights. I hope so.
I've said it many times in here and I will say it again. The hate that goes on here is way over the line as compared to how the guys feel about each other. I cannot see how hating on Mike more than how Brian or Mike feel about each other accomplishes anything more than just writing it here to stir up sh*t. This was a great thread going until the Mike haters interjected and started the thread downhill. It was quite refreshing to read the all good things that happened at Brian's show and how excited the attendees were about the playlist and being there.

Unfortunately that seems inevitable that the talk will head that way, but who cares? I don't care if people say what they please thats up to them, all I know is I saw Brian Wilson on 26/03/2016 and it changed my life.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Ang Jones on March 29, 2016, 01:01:58 AM
Guys, guys. There just isn't enough time left in the lives of these folks--no matter who you deem to be the "heroes" and who the "villains"--for any of us to wallow in the "anti-positivity." If you favor M&B, go see them; if you favor B&A&B plus M, go see them. Enjoy the music and the various folks who were involved in creating it while we still can!

If they never regroup, we will always have 2012...we really have to just be grateful for whatever we get. Really!


It should certainly be about the here and now, not constantly hankering over the past. The originals are touring albeit in separate bands. We don't need them to be together in order to appreicate whichever concerts we go to see.

As for the 'hate' to which drbeachboy refers, that isn't just down to the fans but is caused by the differences between band members, which has caused factions to develop.

I don't need to look back to 2012 to be happy about the music - there is plenty to appreciate right now and in years to come perhaps we will be looking back at this tour as one of the highlights. I hope so.
I've said it many times in here and I will say it again. The hate that goes on here is way over the line as compared to how the guys feel about each other. I cannot see how hating on Mike more than how Brian or Mike feel about each other accomplishes anything more than just writing it here to stir up sh*t. This was a great thread going until the Mike haters interjected and started the thread downhill. It was quite refreshing to read the all good things that happened at Brian's show and how excited the attendees were about the playlist and being there.

I enjoyed reading the positive comments about the show which was the subject of the thread.  What set it off in a different direction was the comment about the Beach Boys getting back together (a comment not made by a Mike hater). They've been there, done that, and it is over. Can't we ever just enjoy what we have now, rather than continually going on about returning to the past?

As for the way the guys feel about each other, obviously that is between them but reading the details of that 2005 lawsuit and various comments in Mike's interviews doesn't give a good impression and that goes right up to date, Mike complaining about how Brian didn't attend his birthday party for example.

If someone wants to do a thread about a reunion, perhaps better to do it under another title. I will happily avoid it.



Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 29, 2016, 01:19:46 AM
ah blown out of proportion, but maybe it was taken in the wrong context.
I was just merely stating that the guys are almost on the same plane now it's nearly silly.
I said what I said 'rhetorically' speaking, and maybe I shouldn't have said anything and should
have chosen my words more carefully.  I said it in the fact, M&B over the last 5 years or so,
have started putting in some deep cuts not normally that would be in their show, and that now Brian
and his guys have dropped more of his solo things and have and made his show more of a 'beach boys' show.  
Yes I understand the politics and the reasons between the two, but I was meaning to say that they guys make great music together
it's a shame that they are so close, but so far apart.  I am no ML hater at all, I've seen his (their) group
a number of times and have enjoyed what he brings to the show, no one can do that like Mr. Love.
Let's keep things on topic.  Sorry.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Ang Jones on March 29, 2016, 01:33:24 AM
ah blown out of proportion, but maybe it was taken in the wrong context.
I was just merely stating that the guys are almost on the same plane now it's nearly silly.
I said what I said 'rhetorically' speaking, and maybe I shouldn't have said anything and should
have chosen my words more carefully.  I said it in the fact, M&B over the last 5 years or so,
have started putting in some deep cuts not normally that would be in their show, and that now Brian
and his guys have dropped more of his solo things and have and made his show more of a 'beach boys' show.  
Yes I understand the politics and the reasons between the two, but I was meaning to say that they guys make great music together
it's a shame that they are so close, but so far apart.  I am no ML hater at all, I've seen his (their) group
a number of times and have enjoyed what he brings to the show, no one can do that like Mr. Love.
Let's keep things on topic.  Sorry.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I can understand that some wish the original Beach Boys were still together. It's just that drbeachboy's accusation that Mike haters suddenly out of nowhere brought this up is unfair.

Mike and Bruce have undoubtedly improved the standard of their shows and bring pleasure to many fans. We have Brian and his band, Mike and Bruce and their band. Those who want to see both bands still can, or pick whichever they choose. A lot for which to feel grateful and of course it won't last forever so we should all be making the best of it.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 29, 2016, 01:36:30 AM
indeed Ang, I see Brian in 5 days.  Looking forward to the show.  I agree, that debate needs to be elsewhere.
This is such a good time for the fans, let's not degrade this thread over that discussion.
someone else can start that cos it's not going to be me.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 29, 2016, 01:43:37 AM
Brian's at the Sydney Opera House as I write this, I wonder how the show is going?  havn't heard anything from anybody.
People?
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOb6nKF6t0
sail on sailor at Byron bay, Sydney.

short clip, Brian sounding Greatttttt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkc3-NPnyiM


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Ang Jones on March 29, 2016, 02:38:10 AM
Brian's at the Sydney Opera House as I write this, I wonder how the show is going?  havn't heard anything from anybody.
People?
edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOb6nKF6t0
sail on sailor at Byron bay, Sydney.

short clip, Brian sounding Greatttttt!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkc3-NPnyiM

Thanks for the clips! Brian sounds brilliant.

Glad to learn you'll be seeing Brian soon. I hope you have a great time. I'm looking forward to his UK shows in May.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Angua on March 29, 2016, 02:43:29 AM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny.  I wish politics and money
had nothing to do with these groups, because together with Bruce included, these guys could do stellar things again.
Brian with Al and Blondie
Mike with Bruce.
damn guys! 


They do stellar things without Mike and Bruce.  In fact I think that Mike and Bruce's interpretation lowers the quality. 

I have absolutely zero interest in seeing Mike and Bruce ever again.  Even if Brian wanted to and there were no 'political' problems it would reduce my enjoyment, not least of all because you don't know how it would all go wrong again.  Last time there was little sign of them enjoying each other's company - before the show they were waiting in the wings, separate from each other and not talking.  On stage there was a good bit of sniping.  Whereas with Brian's band they make it clear that they feel respect for Brian and show him support.

Sorry but I'm not going to mince my words on this issue any longer.  I want to make it clear to Brian and his management that they shouldn't get together with them on my account.  I hope everyone who feels the same way will make their feelings clear too.  Those in favour have been banging on about it for years so it's time those of us who are not should stand up and be counted.
Honestly, all the hate in here has really rubbed off on me. Anymore, I don't care what they do together or apart. This place has made me sick to death of the entire Beach Boys thing. I have no desire to see any of them anymore. Since the new year, I have hardly played any of their music. If that was effect and affect you guys are going for; it worked! Never in my wildest dreams would I expect a Beach Boys fan board to turn me off to my ex-favorite band. Well done, people.

Please don't let us detain you.  By the way I don't like the 'forgive us our wife and Managers' line in your prayer.

I didn't write it, Hypehat did. Plus, I don't give a sh*t whether you like it or not. See, the hate you send out does return to you or was that a smile?

I didn't notice any of the posts before yours being full of hate. I simply expressed my own opinion that I don't want them to get back together again and the reasons why.  You are entitled to your own opinion.

I didn't suppose for a moment that you cared what I thought - I was just pointing out ever so gently that the prayer you post as a signature every single time you post is a little hateful (if not for that line it could be considered to be teasing).  Sometimes hate, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder - you take exception to some things, I take exception to others.

I heard some of God Only Knows this morning from the Blues-fest and Brian seems in really good voice.  



  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 29, 2016, 02:56:40 AM
But I haven't heard any firm reports as to whether Blondie sang *all* of "Funky Pretty" or not. It's weird though, that they bring him out on tour and don't just give him four songs instead of three. He's presumably going to travel the world for 80+ shows to come on stage for three songs per night (plus some encore numbers), so why not just make it four at least?

It seems odd to me that they don't have him on stage for the whole show (or at least the first set), adding backing vocals and guitar since he's there *anyway*. He played and sang on those songs in Beach Boys shows for three years in the 70s, so it's not like he can't do it...


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on March 29, 2016, 05:52:34 AM
Al sounding great in Sydney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcKpLDuc-mk


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Angua on March 29, 2016, 06:42:26 AM
Al sounding great in Sydney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcKpLDuc-mk

I'm so glad - Al's voice is amazing.  He sounds as good now as he did at 25.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 07:12:20 AM
Okey, third try. Anyone interested in keeping this discussion in the 2016 tour thread? As I mentioned, in the future when people want to search this forum for info on the 2016 tour, they're much less likely to find this thread.

The "Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)" was intended for the entire tour. It wasn't a pre-tour discussion thread, or just intended for Europe or North America.

I know there's often cross-discussion for things in multiple threads, especially for tours, but we're getting to the point where there's no discussion of, say, the Sydney show in the actual 21-page tour thread, but there is here. In particular, links to YouTube clips and things like that are PERFECT for the tour thread, and as I said, this thread will drop off into oblivion in the future. I just hate to see the actual tour thread die just as the tour actually starts. It's going to lead to scattered threads for the entire tour.

But I'm not a mod, and my previous posts were pretty much ignored on this topic. I just figured since I started the 2016 tour thread, it might be worth suggesting keeping all the exciting tour discussion to that singular thread as much as possible.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 07:23:56 AM
I'm trying, so far in vain, to convince folks in another thread to keep the tour discussion here in a central location. In the meantime, here's a YouTube link from the Sydney show:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcKpLDuc-mk

Also, from Byron Bay:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOb6nKF6t0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkc3-NPnyiM



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 07:35:34 AM
Added a new tour date, 8/28 in New Hampshire.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on March 29, 2016, 07:39:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zkc3-NPnyiM
Brian sounds great!   :)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 07:43:18 AM
I'll also try to start posting setlist links under tour dates as they come in. Only have a solid setlist for opening night so far.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on March 29, 2016, 07:44:38 AM
Any setlists from the last two nights? Anyone there?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on March 29, 2016, 08:16:10 AM
I just wanted to let people know that the tickets for the Ottawa Jazz Festival show went on sale today and the site notes the following band members.  Darian and Scott are not listed.  As others noted, there will probably be some changing of band members during the tour. 


Featuring:

Brian Wilson - Vocals, Piano
 Al Jardine - Guitar & Vocals
 Blondie Chaplin - Guitar & Vocals
 Gary Griffin - Keys & Vocals
 Probyn Gregory - Guitars, Horns & Vocals
 Billy Hinsche - Keys & Vocals
 Paul von Mertens - Horns & Vocals, Musical Director
 Michael D'Amico - Drums
 Nelson Bragg - Percussion & Vocals
 Nick Walusko - Guitar & Vocals
 Robert Lizik - Bass Guitar
 Matt Jardine - Vocals & Guitar




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 08:17:44 AM
I just wanted to let people know that the tickets for the Ottawa Jazz Festival show went on sale today and the site notes the following band members.  Darian and Scott are not listed.  As others noted, there will probably be some changing of band members during the tour. 


Featuring:

Brian Wilson - Vocals, Piano
 Al Jardine - Guitar & Vocals
 Blondie Chaplin - Guitar & Vocals
 Gary Griffin - Keys & Vocals
 Probyn Gregory - Guitars, Horns & Vocals
 Billy Hinsche - Keys & Vocals
 Paul von Mertens - Horns & Vocals, Musical Director
 Michael D'Amico - Drums
 Nelson Bragg - Percussion & Vocals
 Nick Walusko - Guitar & Vocals
 Robert Lizik - Bass Guitar
 Matt Jardine - Vocals & Guitar




What's most surprising is that they're providing a full manifest of backing band members on the show's website. I rarely see that sort of detail. Usually, we're lucky if they remember to put Al and Blondie's name on there.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Angua on March 29, 2016, 10:12:07 AM
If I start a thread I'll be sure to put it in the right place - sorry!


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 10:34:13 AM
Nah, it's not a big thing. I just look at the board less as a real-time chat sort of thing (it does that too of course) to ruminate about exciting recent events, and more as a permanent repository for info for years to come.

Secondary threads aren't a big deal to me, but when a tour's "opening night" thread understandably gets a lot of attention and starts being followed up on with reports on additional shows, all with a non-descript thread title, then that info will be buried five years from now when someone tries to look up the 2016 tour.

There's TONS of amazing info on this board, and some of it *is* buried in tangential discussions and threads under sometimes non-descript thread titles. The search function always has limitations, so a big thread with a clear title helps especially with things like tours.

I was just trying to politely steer conversation to the tour thread, knowing that people will invariably simply only sometimes selectively read posts in a thread.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 10:36:18 AM
But I haven't heard any firm reports as to whether Blondie sang *all* of "Funky Pretty" or not. It's weird though, that they bring him out on tour and don't just give him four songs instead of three. He's presumably going to travel the world for 80+ shows to come on stage for three songs per night (plus some encore numbers), so why not just make it four at least?

It seems odd to me that they don't have him on stage for the whole show (or at least the first set), adding backing vocals and guitar since he's there *anyway*. He played and sang on those songs in Beach Boys shows for three years in the 70s, so it's not like he can't do it...

True, that surprised me on the 2015 tour. It kinda made some sense on the 2013 tour, where Blondie was only popping in on select dates.

I do think there are some songs where Blondie wouldn't be needed, such as the PS songs not heavy on guitar. But they could certainly have him up there for *some* additional songs.

I've always wished they'd give Al and Blondie quick solo sets, even if just 1-2 songs, either together or apart. It would make the shows longer without running Brian ragged.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on March 29, 2016, 10:38:55 AM
I really, really, really loved seeing David Marks play the guitar solo lead on the song "Pet Sounds" in 2013 at The Greek Theater, and I will probably miss that the most from the upcoming PS tour.

That was a melding of eras of the band that worked brilliantly, expertly executed in a very emotionally impactful manner.

Still cannot wait, even if Dave isn't there. I hope Dave is doing well.


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 29, 2016, 11:30:51 AM
I'm gonna merge this...sorry I haven't been responsive lately..as mentioned previously I'm having some reoccurring health issues. I'm out from work today  and will be on for a few hours.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GoodVibrations33 on March 29, 2016, 11:39:38 AM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on March 29, 2016, 11:57:49 AM
Great footage from Aussie!    :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on March 29, 2016, 12:53:08 PM
Great footage from Aussie!    :)
I'll say -- Thank you!   8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2WNM0QZKPA



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: srv1303 on March 29, 2016, 01:20:33 PM
Al's wife took some tour photos and uploaded them to his page on Facebook.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: John Stivaktas on March 29, 2016, 01:26:13 PM
I was at the Sydney Opera House show last night in Sydney. I'll post some more later when I have time. Some observations:

1) I was at Homebush Arena for the Beach Boys 50th Anniversary World Tour Show in Sydney in August 2012. That show was outstanding, great musicians. This show was easily its equal
2) The Opera House is a great venue for this type of show
3) To do the greatest hits, have an intermission, and then do Pet Sounds...and then a six song encore, it blew me away.
4) I went to see Jeff Buckley in 1996 at the Enmore Theatre in Sydney, then he passed away tragically the year after. In the same way, I think if anything were to happen (although I wish nothing to happen to our beloved Brian), he is 74 soon, and if this is the last Beach Boys/Brian Wilson show I ever attend, I can die satisfied!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 02:39:15 PM
I was at the Sydney Opera House show last night in Sydney. I'll post some more later when I have time. Some observations:

1) I was at Homebush Arena for the Beach Boys 50th Anniversary World Tour Show in Sydney in August 2012. That show was outstanding, great musicians. This show was easily its equal
2) The Opera House is a great venue for this type of show
3) To do the greatest hits, have an intermission, and then do Pet Sounds...and then a six song encore, it blew me away.
4) I went to see Jeff Buckley in 1996 at the Enmore Theatre in Sydney, then he passed away tragically the year after. In the same way, I think if anything were to happen (although I wish nothing to happen to our beloved Brian), he is 74 soon, and if this is the last Beach Boys/Brian Wilson show I ever attend, I can die satisfied!

Thanks for the report. Please post the setlist if you were able to take it down. I'm in particular interested if they tried out "Leaving this Town" or changed anything else from opening night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on March 29, 2016, 05:01:48 PM
Looking at a youtube clip from last night. Same as Auckland but looks like 'Darlin' was added.

About 2.10 in. Darian lead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAZzy8V9K0


Title: Re: BRIAN WILSON JUST BLEW MY MIND LIVE TONIGHT IN CONCERT
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 29, 2016, 05:19:32 PM
Brian has the best group thing going at the moment, but if both camps could just pull it together. damn!
they are even doing a similar setlist these days.  Brian has incorporated the car/surf hits, and Mike has included
deeper and rare cuts.  They are almost on the same plane that it's not even funny. 

Judging from last night, though, they're still wildly different shows.  I'm trying to imagine an official Beach Boys ever pulling out "Wake The World", "Honkin' Down The Highway", and "Funky Pretty" in the same set...!

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on March 29, 2016, 05:21:57 PM
I just wanted to let people know that the tickets for the Ottawa Jazz Festival show went on sale today and the site notes the following band members.  Darian and Scott are not listed.  As others noted, there will probably be some changing of band members during the tour. 


Featuring:

Brian Wilson - Vocals, Piano
 Al Jardine - Guitar & Vocals
 Blondie Chaplin - Guitar & Vocals
 Gary Griffin - Keys & Vocals
 Probyn Gregory - Guitars, Horns & Vocals
 Billy Hinsche - Keys & Vocals
 Paul von Mertens - Horns & Vocals, Musical Director
 Michael D'Amico - Drums
 Nelson Bragg - Percussion & Vocals
 Nick Walusko - Guitar & Vocals
 Robert Lizik - Bass Guitar
 Matt Jardine - Vocals & Guitar




What's most surprising is that they're providing a full manifest of backing band members on the show's website. I rarely see that sort of detail. Usually, we're lucky if they remember to put Al and Blondie's name on there.

Yes, I was surprised too! I've never seen that before. It kind of even surprises me that that level of detail would be released to the venue.

I'm happy that I'll get to see Billy Hinsche, as I've never seen him before, but will really miss Darian. I hope he'll be at some of the other East Coast shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 29, 2016, 05:24:19 PM
Any setlists from the last two nights? Anyone there?

I'll try to post my thoughts from the first night at the Opera House later today in the main tour thread!  In brief:  Brian had an off night, the band pulled together around him, but the sound mix up in the rafters of the Opera House still sounded wonky...

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 29, 2016, 05:29:30 PM
The setlist posted on the bw.com site:

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u176/remmym/20160326_225146%20-%20Copy_zpshvaah2vg.jpg)


This was the Opera House setlist on the 29th as well, with one addition!  Darian pulled out "Darlin'" -- either before or after "One Kind Of Love", my notes aren't clear.

Still no Leaving This Town.

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 29, 2016, 07:01:54 PM
The setlist posted on the bw.com site:

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u176/remmym/20160326_225146%20-%20Copy_zpshvaah2vg.jpg)


This was the Opera House setlist on the 29th as well, with one addition!  Darian pulled out "Darlin'" -- either before or after "One Kind Of Love", my notes aren't clear.

Still no Leaving This Town.

Cheers,
Jon Blum



Thanks for the confirmation. Was "Then I Kissed Her" performed? Someone removed that song from the 9/29 setlist on the setlist.fm website.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on March 29, 2016, 07:30:30 PM
I think it's odd that they would do Leaving This Town as it was not written by Brian and he probably had nothing to do with that song when it was recorded.  It would be cool to hear but I'm just not sure if it's appropriate for a Brian Wilson concert.  Wild Honey makes a lot more sense.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on March 29, 2016, 08:05:13 PM
Looks like on the most recent show, Brian is back to his piano being more off to the side as opposed to dead center.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAZzy8V9K0



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 29, 2016, 09:30:29 PM
I think it's odd that they would do Leaving This Town as it was not written by Brian and he probably had nothing to do with that song when it was recorded.  It would be cool to hear but I'm just not sure if it's appropriate for a Brian Wilson concert.  Wild Honey makes a lot more sense.

I'd LOVE to hear LTT, but I've had the same thought--it doesn't have much, if anything to do with Brian.  I do like it more than FP, but will be happy to hear either or both songs!

For what it's worth, looks like the two more recent shows have had the exact time setlist as the first. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 29, 2016, 10:00:21 PM
Thanks for the confirmation. Was "Then I Kissed Her" performed? Someone removed that song from the 9/29 setlist on the setlist.fm website.

No "Then I Kissed Her" on March 29, sorry!

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RickD on March 29, 2016, 10:30:44 PM
ABC Home





ABC NEWS

Wouldn't it be nice to perform with Brian Wilson?BY ELLOISE FARROW-SMITHUPDATED 16 MINUTES

PHOTO 

Beach Boys legend Brian Wilson played with four women from the Byron Bay hinterlands at Bluesfest.

FACEBOOK: BLUESFEST BYRON BAY

Have you ever dreamed of being a rock star?

One day you are living your quiet life on the farm; pulling weeds from the garden, chasing children in for meal and bath times and somehow finding a moment or two to strum a few tunes on the guitar or play a few bars on the violin.

The next day ... you're standing on a stage before around 6,000 people with Beach Boys legend Brian Wilson perched at a piano only a few steps away.

Happens every day, right?

Four women from the Byron Bay Hinterland had that experience, pulled from their everyday, normal lives for an evening of making music with a musical genius.

PHOTO Two cellists and two violinists land the gig of a lifetime, playing with Beach Boys legend Brian Wilson.ABC: MICHAEL MACKENZIE

The women — two violinists and two cellists — all play together at different times in various ensembles. But this was described as the gig of a lifetime.

Violinists Sue Simpson and Oren Siedler said scoring the big gig all came down to luck and a bit of "who you know".

AUDIO 3:59Wouldn't it be nice to play music with Brian WilsonABC NEWS

"Having come from Melbourne and having done a lot of touring, a friend of mine from Melbourne gave me a call and asked would I be available and of course I said yes!" Ms Simpson said.

Oren Siedler said she couldn't believe her ears when she was asked, and it was an immediate yes.

But after watching a video online of Brian Wilson's performance with Elton John she began to wonder if she was up to the job.

"Elton John gets up at the beginning and says 'Hi, I'm Elton John and I just want to let you know how honoured I am to be sharing the stage with Brian Wilson; this is like a dream come true'," Ms Siedler said.

"I thought, damn if Elton John feels honoured to be sharing the stage with Brian Wilson, how am I supposed to feel?

"So then I started getting a little nervous, what if I play an F sharp when it's supposed to be F natural and Brian Wilson hears it?"

PHOTO Byron string ensemble (from left) cellists Robbie Farrar and Claire Yerbury, and violinists Oren Siedler and Sue Simpson.ABC: MICHAEL MACKENZIE

But as they say in the business, it'll be all right on the night … and it was.

The musicians, along with cellists Robbie Farrar and Claire Yerbury came off the stage beaming.

"It was great fun; it was awesome," Ms Simpson said.

"The male voices, that high classic Beach Boys sound, it was beautiful."

It was a big sound with 11 musicians in the core band and then eight extra for the Bluesfest performance made up of five strings and three brass who also doubled on wind instruments.

PHOTO Kudos to Byron Bay strings players from Brian Wilson and his band.ABC: MICHAEL MACKENZIE

As for Ms Siedler's nerves: "I was trying my hardest to look like I wasn't counting but inside I was counting one, two, three, four, two-two, three, four and hoping it wasn't showing on my face," she said.

"But it was so much fun and I felt very relaxed after the first few minutes.

"It was wonderful seeing the musicians having such a wonderful time and then looking out to the crowd and seeing all the beaming happy faces and thinking, wow, we are actually part of imparting all this joy to this room of thousands of people; it felt so satisfying."

Ms Simpson said she would love to one day get around to doing it again.

"I think the band really enjoyed playing with an extra bit of 'fat' with the strings and the woodwinds," she said.

"I hope they loved it because I'd love to come back and do it again."

The day after the night as a rock star, Ms Siedler's experience seems surreal.

It's back to vacuuming, loads of washing and caring for children but the good vibrations of her night as a rock star will keep resonating for some time yet.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 30, 2016, 02:22:23 AM
Thanks for the confirmation. Was "Then I Kissed Her" performed? Someone removed that song from the 9/29 setlist on the setlist.fm website.

No "Then I Kissed Her" on March 29, sorry!

Cheers,
Jon Blum

Yeah, looks like 'Darlin'' replaced 'Then I Kissed Her.'  Not a bad trade, though it would be even better if they replaced it with 'California Saga' or something. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 30, 2016, 02:24:17 AM
I just wanted to let people know that the tickets for the Ottawa Jazz Festival show went on sale today and the site notes the following band members.  Darian and Scott are not listed.  As others noted, there will probably be some changing of band members during the tour. 


Featuring:

Brian Wilson - Vocals, Piano
 Al Jardine - Guitar & Vocals
 Blondie Chaplin - Guitar & Vocals
 Gary Griffin - Keys & Vocals
 Probyn Gregory - Guitars, Horns & Vocals
 Billy Hinsche - Keys & Vocals
 Paul von Mertens - Horns & Vocals, Musical Director
 Michael D'Amico - Drums
 Nelson Bragg - Percussion & Vocals
 Nick Walusko - Guitar & Vocals
 Robert Lizik - Bass Guitar
 Matt Jardine - Vocals & Guitar




What's most surprising is that they're providing a full manifest of backing band members on the show's website. I rarely see that sort of detail. Usually, we're lucky if they remember to put Al and Blondie's name on there.

Yes, I was surprised too! I've never seen that before. It kind of even surprises me that that level of detail would be released to the venue.

I'm happy that I'll get to see Billy Hinsche, as I've never seen him before, but will really miss Darian. I hope he'll be at some of the other East Coast shows.

The Japanese page for the Pet Sounds tour also has the same detailed band member list. Nice that they are being so specific!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 30, 2016, 07:30:36 AM
I just wanted to let people know that the tickets for the Ottawa Jazz Festival show went on sale today and the site notes the following band members.  Darian and Scott are not listed.  As others noted, there will probably be some changing of band members during the tour. 


Featuring:

Brian Wilson - Vocals, Piano
 Al Jardine - Guitar & Vocals
 Blondie Chaplin - Guitar & Vocals
 Gary Griffin - Keys & Vocals
 Probyn Gregory - Guitars, Horns & Vocals
 Billy Hinsche - Keys & Vocals
 Paul von Mertens - Horns & Vocals, Musical Director
 Michael D'Amico - Drums
 Nelson Bragg - Percussion & Vocals
 Nick Walusko - Guitar & Vocals
 Robert Lizik - Bass Guitar
 Matt Jardine - Vocals & Guitar




What's most surprising is that they're providing a full manifest of backing band members on the show's website. I rarely see that sort of detail. Usually, we're lucky if they remember to put Al and Blondie's name on there.

Yes, I was surprised too! I've never seen that before. It kind of even surprises me that that level of detail would be released to the venue.

I'm happy that I'll get to see Billy Hinsche, as I've never seen him before, but will really miss Darian. I hope he'll be at some of the other East Coast shows.

The Japanese page for the Pet Sounds tour also has the same detailed band member list. Nice that they are being so specific!

But geez, if they're going to put down "Robert Lizik", how about Alan Jardine, Matthew Jardine, Nicholas Walusko (no, I don't even know if that's his full first name), William Hinsche....   ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 30, 2016, 07:40:34 AM
I think it's odd that they would do Leaving This Town as it was not written by Brian and he probably had nothing to do with that song when it was recorded.  It would be cool to hear but I'm just not sure if it's appropriate for a Brian Wilson concert.  Wild Honey makes a lot more sense.

I'd LOVE to hear LTT, but I've had the same thought--it doesn't have much, if anything to do with Brian.  I do like it more than FP, but will be happy to hear either or both songs!

For what it's worth, looks like the two more recent shows have had the exact time setlist as the first. 

While these are "Brian Wilson" shows and both fans and band members are doing well by remembering that, once Al (and especially with Matt and Blondie in there too) steps in, I do see the show as more of a "band" performance. It's really kind of an "alternate" touring Beach Boys lineup in my mind. I recognize it's not going to be like old Beach Boys tours where Al has a say in setlist and whatnot. I've also pointed out that indeed Al and Blondie's performances are usually of songs Brian either wrote or co-wrote, or songs he originally sang a part on. But I don't think having Blondie sing a song from an actual Beach Boys album is too off-topic for a BW show. It's not like he's having Blondie do a mid-show solo set of songs nobody has heard before (though frankly that *could* be interesting too). If Dave can do "Little Bird", I'm happy hearing Blondie do "Leaving this Town", or "Hold on Dear Brother." I've often hoped they might let Matt Jardine sing something like "The Trader", which I believe was briefly rehearsed in the old "Family & Friends" days.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on March 30, 2016, 10:02:08 AM
Feel free to tear this ageist reviewer a new one:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/brian-wilson-review-beach-boy-was-once-genius-but-its-time-to-let-it-go-20160330-gntq79.html

BRIAN WILSON REVIEW: BEACH BOY WAS ONCE GENIUS BUT IT'S TIME TO LET IT GO
March 30, 2016
Bernard Zuel

I'm of the sentiment that no one should be expected to give up their art just because they're getting older.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on March 30, 2016, 10:34:39 AM
I don't think the reviewer is saying it'e because they are older.  The issue is the quality.  He didn't think it was befitting of the great Brian Wilson and that's fair comment.  Maybe he doesn't care that some nights are good and some aren't.  I've been to every Brian Tour in the UK since 2002 (several shows per tour) and I am booked up for at least 2 more in May.  But IMHO Brian's voice is not as good as it was in 2002 (even then he had his moments).  It's the same as the old "He could still sing falsetto if he wants" argument.

I love Brian and will always cut him slack but not everyone is a hard core fan like most of us here.  I will also be delighted to see Blondie but I can also understand why someone might not like his singing.  I would love to hear them do "Sail Away".

So yeah, many people here have questioned Brian still continuing to tour. The reviewer is doing the same.

Roll on May, I can't wait. God Bless Brian Wilson, it is amazing he is still out there at all.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 30, 2016, 10:35:55 AM
Feel free to tear this ageist reviewer a new one:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/brian-wilson-review-beach-boy-was-once-genius-but-its-time-to-let-it-go-20160330-gntq79.html

BRIAN WILSON REVIEW: BEACH BOY WAS ONCE GENIUS BUT IT'S TIME TO LET IT GO
March 30, 2016
Bernard Zuel

I'm of the sentiment that no one should be expected to give up their art just because they're getting older.

The #1 aspect of the review that lends an air of a lack of credibility to me is not that he didn't like the show, but rather than he contends that in 2004 Brian sounded markedly better.

As I've *often* said, an argument can be made against Brian doing shows/tours. I don't agree with that argument, but it's an argument that is not without a few potentially valid points (obviously depends on what those points are). But those points have existed all along, since 1999. If you think Brian's performance is sub-par in 2016 but think it was stunningly awesome in 2004, then I'd say *your* perception and judgment and taste has changed FAR more than Brian's stage presence or performing ability. Brian has ups and downs, but the show isn't *hugely* different now from what it was in 2007 or 2004 or even 2000.

I also find his observation suspect that *all* of the band just happened to all be off at the same time? I suspect this guy just took perhaps a more tentative, shaking-the-cobwebs-off performance and turned every little aspect of it into a negative. That he seems to suggest the backing band and Jardine are normally solid, but had an off night, also undercuts his argument that they should just hang it up, because he's implying they haven't hit some wall where they all suck now, but rather had an off night.

He also doesn't understand either the fanbase or Brian very well if he things "Cabinessence" is both an equally plausible and more preferable setlist choice to something like "Funky Pretty." He doesn't get it. Something new is exciting. Brian did "Cabinessence" at 80 or so shows in 2004 and 2005, and I don't think he has ever done the song outside of a "Smile" set.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 30, 2016, 10:39:52 AM
I don't think the reviewer is saying it'e because they are older.  The issue is the quality.  He didn't think it was befitting of the great Brian Wilson and that's fair comment.  Maybe he doesn't care that some nights are good and some aren't.  I've been to every Brian Tour in the UK since 2002 (several shows per tour) and I am booked up for at least 2 more in May.  But IMHO Brian's voice is not as good as it was in 2002 (even then he had his moments).  It's the same as the old "He could still sing falsetto if he wants" argument.

I love Brian and will always cut him slack but not everyone is a hard core fan like most of us here.  I will also be delighted to see Blondie but I can also understand why someone might not like his singing.  I would love to hear them do "Sail Away".

So yeah, many people here have questioned Brian still continuing to tour. The reviewer is doing the same.

Roll on May, I can't wait. God Bless Brian Wilson, it is amazing he is still out there at all.

Not to simply reiterate points from my other post, but I don't believe Brian in 2015 or 2016 is *vastly* different than he was in 2004. He literally moves a little slower due to back stuff. But his stage demeanor on the two 2015 shows I saw, and his voice, were both not hugely different from other shows. If anything, he was in a better mood in 2015 than he had been on previous more recent shows.

The writer's main argument ("it's time to let it go") isn't without at least enough validity to ponder it. But he undercuts his argument by being so effusive in praising the 2004 and 2002 tours, because people were writing these same sort of negative reviews of his shows back then too.

Again, I sense the writer has changed more than Brian has.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 30, 2016, 10:42:05 AM
He also doesn't understand either the fanbase or Brian very well if he things "Cabinessence" is both an equally plausible and more preferable setlist choice to something like "Funky Pretty." He doesn't get it. Something new is exciting. Brian did "Cabinessence" at 80 or so shows in 2004 and 2005, and I don't think he has ever done the song outside of a "Smile" set.

2002 UK June tour, as part of a medley with Wonderful.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 30, 2016, 10:42:42 AM
I love Brian and will always cut him slack but not everyone is a hard core fan like most of us here.  I will also be delighted to see Blondie but I can also understand why someone might not like his singing.  I would love to hear them do "Sail Away".

Ironically, while still enjoyable performances, "Sail Away" was organizationally one of the weaker moments at both 2015 shows I attended. All three of the guys tripped over each other and sang over each other.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 30, 2016, 10:44:53 AM
He also doesn't understand either the fanbase or Brian very well if he things "Cabinessence" is both an equally plausible and more preferable setlist choice to something like "Funky Pretty." He doesn't get it. Something new is exciting. Brian did "Cabinessence" at 80 or so shows in 2004 and 2005, and I don't think he has ever done the song outside of a "Smile" set.

2002 UK June tour, as part of a medley with Wonderful.

Ha, I was going to say he has rarely done it outside of the full album. Should have stuck to that. But it's pretty clear that the song isn't a likely choice for Brian to just pluck out and randomly insert into the setlist, and I do believe he hasn't performed it *since* the final "Smile" date in 2005. He has professed a dislike of doing "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'" due at least in part to the verbosity of the lyrics, and indeed both are now gone again from the setlist. I think I caught the last time to date that Brian did "Busy Doin' Nothin'" back in September in San Francisco.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 30, 2016, 04:34:02 PM
The #1 aspect of the review that lends an air of a lack of credibility to me is not that he didn't like the show, but rather than he contends that in 2004 Brian sounded markedly better.

I was there at the show on the 29th.  I don't think he's wrong on that -- Brian *was* in better voice in 2004 than the other night.

I'm just not generalizing out to his entire touring career from one really rough show.

The thing is, night before last, Brian was in really bad form for much of the show -- clipping lines, bellowing them, rushing or hesitating, going off-pitch or just not singing bits.  He got markedly better as he went along (starting around side 2 of "Pet Sounds" -- there was a really sweet bit where he harmonized with Al on "this is the worst trip I've ever been on"), but it was still easily the most haphazard performance I've seen from him (out of about a dozen shows).  It wasn't just the singing -- his stage banter was minimal even by Brian standards.  Then he tried to introduce "my very good friend...  I've forgotten his name."  (Blondie.)  And he was in full I-just-wanna-get-this-show-over-with mode.  He got up before the end of "Good Vibrations" and headed offstage with the urgency of a man headed for the bathroom.  Then he came out halfway through Paul's spiel introducing him for the encore.  He had the out-of-sync sluggish reactions of a man trying to get through things when he's *exhausted*.

And you know what?  I'm sure he *was* exhausted.  The band played Auckland on the 26th, flew to another country in a different timezone on the 27th, played Bluesfest on the 28th, flew down to Sydney on the morning of the 29th, checked in, then pretty much went straight to soundcheck to play that night.  No rest day.  Yesterday was their first actual day off.

At 73?  No wonder you'd be wiped.  My dad's four years older than Brian, and I couldn't imagine putting him through that.  And that's without even taking into account Brian's assorted medications.  (When Kate and I go Up Over, there's a whole rigamarole surrounding adjusting the timing of various meds which make her drowsy, so that she doesn't miss a dose as she crosses all the timezones or end up taking them in the morning rather than the evening -- it can knock her off balance for days.)

Hell, I don't think Brian was even the only one having a lousy day.  The band managed to stuff up *Our Prayer* -- how is that even possible?  But there were a bunch of off-key notes coming out, and I don't think it was just Brian.

So basically, yeah, I can believe that the reviewer thought Brian was shot.  I just don't agree that this is normal for him.  I've seen the man's performances get steadily *better* performances from 2000 onwards, all the way to the Jeff Beck shows in 2013.  This was a stumble.  An obvious one, and a sign of issues they'll have to watch out for on their touring schedule even more from here on out, but not the new baseline.

And now I'm desperately trying to scrape together the money for a ticket for tonight, because I don't want that to be my last memory of seeing Brian.

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 18thofMay on March 30, 2016, 05:56:24 PM
My thoughts on the Sydney show.
First of all the EXPERIENCE was wonderful, the venue the context and the performance was memorable experience for my fellow guest and I.
Now on to the little things.
Scheduling- I raised this prior to the tour's commencement, this first Sydney show was always going to be the one that was at risk of the lag factor. To play at the Opera House after arriving less than 8 hours before at the age of 73 was at best poorly thought out. Then to arrive in the pouring rain and a few hours later sound check then show...

Performance- In my opinion was slightly effected by the scheduling, though the band did a stellar job as always. Brian looked anxious and showed signs of it, which to those that know him or are familiar with his mannerisms can be picked up . The band knew Brian was feeling really anxious, a day to settle in, get ready for Sydney was a better option. Brian definitely reacted after the GOK's standing ovation. Overall it wasn't a bad Brian effort, he loves The Opera House and was really fucking trying at times to get through his feelings and get it out to the audience. It added so much to me the effort he was giving and most that I spoke to had seen the movie and where delighted that he could even be there to deliver his music. I disagree with Jonathan with extreme prejudice. And I have two spares and you aint getting one!

"That review"- Anyone that thinks Foskett was better than Matt is a fucking idiot! And clearly shows where this "reviewers" allegiances lay. Foskett was a prick! And whilst I personally think Matt's vocals are not close to Brian's they are a different sound and it sounds good and pure and very sweet.... Maybe to sweet for my ears. But the band loves him!

I am going to enjoy tonight, I look forward to another great performance of the greatest album of all time!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on March 30, 2016, 07:04:33 PM
Feel free to tear this ageist reviewer a new one:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/brian-wilson-review-beach-boy-was-once-genius-but-its-time-to-let-it-go-20160330-gntq79.html

BRIAN WILSON REVIEW: BEACH BOY WAS ONCE GENIUS BUT IT'S TIME TO LET IT GO
March 30, 2016
Bernard Zuel

I'm of the sentiment that no one should be expected to give up their art just because they're getting older.

Wow the quote about Matt being fine but no as good as the fabulous Jeff Foskett. This guy has no idea.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 30, 2016, 07:11:50 PM
I disagree with Jonathan with extreme prejudice. And I have two spares and you aint getting one!

Thanks for that.  Having finally confirmed I have the cash, I've been trying all morning to get even a single SRO ticket, and they're completely sold out.  So, it looks like this is it.  Love and mercy to you.

BTW, if you're thinking I said that because I was bashing Brian, you couldn't be farther from the truth.  I have *been* there -- psychedelic with exhaustion, dead on my feet, just trying to get through the rest of the day.  I have nothing but sympathy for the man.

Regards,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TonyW on March 30, 2016, 07:58:46 PM
The first Opera House show was not Brian's best - as previously stated clipping and missing words and at times he did seem to be in a hurry to get the show over with - and at this stage of the tour Al & Matt can't cover for Brian's mistakes in the same way that Foskett could. On the plus side Al, Matt and Blondie really add a new dimension to the show - Al's in great voice and I'm in the camp that prefers Matt's vocals over Jeff Foskett's (please Brian let Matt do Hushabye). I really liked the first set, it opened with Prayer/H&V then had a run of 8 or 9 hits - moved on to a mini set of more obscure tracks as far as the meat and potatoes crowd were concerned then on comes Blondie and gives a swaggering taste of what the Beach Boys were live in the early 70's - something we in Australia never got to witness (and I'd love to see H&V moved from the opener to closing the set with a more rocking 70s take on the song).

I struggled with the Pet Sounds set, at times to me it felt like performing Pet Sounds is an ask too much for Brian and the tour may have been better off sticking to a broader selection of songs and letting the rest of the band carry more of the vocals without diminishing Brian's presence. I'm off to the second show tonight and will be happy to be proved wrong. The encore rocked ... even Barbara #$%^in' Ann.

I felt the crowd was broader that previous tours with a distinct "Love & Mercy' film influence about the attendees. I'm not a fan of the sound quality at the Opera House - its generally too muddy and not loud enough for my taste - it diminishes the live experience.

Having said all of the above about Pet Sounds I had a chance last night to hear a recording of the first Sydney show and Brian sounded much better than I (and others in attendance) could remember. Perhaps I've been over exposed to Brain and Pet Sounds - so perhaps it really is time for a Love You tour  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MrRobinsonsFather on March 31, 2016, 12:30:04 AM
I'm not a fan of the sound quality at the Opera House - its generally too muddy and not loud enough for my taste - it diminishes the live experience.

I agree. This was the first time I've been to the opera house and I was so underwhelmed by the sound system. Your right the sound was just muddy, it was hard to differentiate the instruments, sort of sounded like everything coming out of one speaker.

As for any hiccups Brian made vocally doesnt bother me I'm just happy his here.
I noticed Brian kind of shuffling walking off stage, I hope his back isn't causing too much trouble again.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Dogbone51 on March 31, 2016, 02:03:04 AM
The writer's main argument ("it's time to let it go") isn't without at least enough validity to ponder it. But he undercuts his argument by being so effusive in praising the 2004 and 2002 tours, because people were writing these same sort of negative reviews of his shows back then too.

Again, I sense the writer has changed more than Brian has.

Yes, the writer does praise the previous tours, but since then, if you feel the writer has changed, IMO, I think it's because he clearly sees that the 'novelty' of seeing Brian Wilson in
person, has since run it's course.  How long will it go on?? 

And let me add:  I love Brian.  I saw his NO PIER PRESSURE show last year in San Francisco.  I recorded the whole show, and listening back to it.... I just couldn't get through it.
it just wasn't that good or that interesting. It just lacked any inspiration and was so flat in so many places.  Brian's vocals at times were awful, and when a song would end, he wouldn't pause
for a moment and accept the applause and admiration, he would start introducing the next song, or the person who was going to sing the next song.  The audience didn't know what to do at
times.  It was like, "Okay, let's get on to the next one".  Just a bit painful to see.  But let's face it, many in the audience are very forgiving on this, and on many other things. 

Also, Alan and Blondie are great singers/musicians, but neither added much to the show.   The band, (God Bless them) do what they can to cover up all of these imperfections, and they
do a great job imitating that "Beach Boys' Sound", but frankly, sometimes they sound like they're rushing to get through the song.  The arrangements are sometimes bland and
not very refreshing.  I especially cringe at the arrangement of "Wild Honey" which is such a durge!  It's just sometimes too painful.  Just not very uplifting. 

Maybe I expect more, but not for myself or the fans, but for Brian.  He might be enjoying himself, and smiling and acting like he's into it, but at times he seems to be somewhere else, and
just going through the motions.  I know I can't expect too much from him, but I didn't leave the show last year feeling like, "Wow...I just saw an amazing Brian Wilson show".   It was more,
"Well, there were some good things, but there was a lot of things, that didn't come across that well."  It wasn't a show that I even cared to tell my friends about.

I know a lot of you may criticize me for saying so, but I also don't think Brian deserves to have to go through all of the hassle to be out on tour. 
He should be relaxing at home, and enjoying his life.   If he wants to record from time to time, so be it.  He's had a great career and has nothing more to prove. 
But he shouldn't be touring anymore.  Just doesn't need to do it anymore.   He's never been one for life on the road.

As for this tour, I do not plan to see it.  Like I said, it's just too painful to watch the drama unfold.  And for seeing the WHOLE of PET SOUNDS album done live...well, been there done that many times before. 

Dogbone


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on March 31, 2016, 02:05:11 AM
Another review of the same show but a much more positive one. http://www.thebrag.com/music/brian-wilson-sydney-opera-house

I don't doubt there were flaws though but given the schedule it isn't really surprising. Four standing ovations? Still sounds as though the audience had a good time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 31, 2016, 02:26:36 AM
"Given the schedule" ??? It's the third show of tour, not the seventy third. I wasn't there, and there have been contradictory reports, from fans as well as reviewers. All very confusing. Hopefully any potential kinks will have been ironed out by May.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 31, 2016, 02:46:40 AM
I know a lot of you may criticize me for saying so, but I also don't think Brian deserves to have to go through all of the hassle to be out on tour. 
He should be relaxing at home, and enjoying his life.   If he wants to record from time to time, so be it.  He's had a great career and has nothing more to prove. 
But he shouldn't be touring anymore.  Just doesn't need to do it anymore.   He's never been one for life on the road.

This is to assume that Brian doesn't want to tour and sees it as an imposition, rather than as something he either enjoys or believes to be good for him.
I don't believe Brian is being coerced to tour, and I don't believe that if he was his band members would go along with that coercion. I believe that he either sees it as something he enjoys, or as something that is good for his mental health in the same way running is good for his physical health.
One big advantage of having Al, and now Blondie, to take some of the leads is that it means Brian's bad nights don't have to be all bad. The show I saw in 2014 (the only Brian/Al UK show so far) was clearly an off-night for Brian at first -- he was missing cues and forgetting to sing at all -- but having Al there took enough of the weight off that he was able to get through a very rough first half of the set and do a transcendently gorgeous second half, with the best live God Only Knows and Heroes & Villains I've ever heard.
I think this is a genuinely good thing for Brian. I also think that even when Brian's at his worst, his band are capable of putting on a great show. I hope his performances get better than people are saying this one in Australia was, but even if they don't, I'll still look forward to the two UK shows I have tickets for. I'll be there as much to support Brian as to enjoy the shows, anyway -- but I'm certain I will enjoy them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on March 31, 2016, 05:02:05 AM
"Given the schedule" ??? It's the third show of tour, not the seventy third. I wasn't there, and there have been contradictory reports, from fans as well as reviewers. All very confusing. Hopefully any potential kinks will have been ironed out by May.

I was thinking of Jonathan Blum's comment: "And you know what?  I'm sure he *was* exhausted.  The band played Auckland on the 26th, flew to another country in a different timezone on the 27th, played Bluesfest on the 28th, flew down to Sydney on the morning of the 29th, checked in, then pretty much went straight to soundcheck to play that night.  No rest day.  Yesterday was their first actual day off."

That schedule sounds pretty tiring to me. And I'm not 73.

Edit to note that a friend who attended the second (as well as first night, which she admitted had flaws) said it was "brilliant".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 31, 2016, 05:15:47 AM
Then whoever put that schedule together needs a good talking to, as does whoever in Brian's organisation agreed to it.

That said, it seems the original report was broadly accurate, although l'd agree that it's unlikely the band were as bad as claimed (fwiw I've only once seen them truly poor, in 2005).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 31, 2016, 06:54:11 AM
And let the negativity begin from the usual suspects begin... ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2016, 07:30:50 AM
The first Opera House show was not Brian's best - as previously stated clipping and missing words and at times he did seem to be in a hurry to get the show over with - and at this stage of the tour Al & Matt can't cover for Brian's mistakes in the same way that Foskett could. On the plus side Al, Matt and Blondie really add a new dimension to the show - Al's in great voice and I'm in the camp that prefers Matt's vocals over Jeff Foskett's (please Brian let Matt do Hushabye). I really liked the first set, it opened with Prayer/H&V then had a run of 8 or 9 hits - moved on to a mini set of more obscure tracks as far as the meat and potatoes crowd were concerned then on comes Blondie and gives a swaggering taste of what the Beach Boys were live in the early 70's - something we in Australia never got to witness (and I'd love to see H&V moved from the opener to closing the set with a more rocking 70s take on the song).

I struggled with the Pet Sounds set, at times to me it felt like performing Pet Sounds is an ask too much for Brian and the tour may have been better off sticking to a broader selection of songs and letting the rest of the band carry more of the vocals without diminishing Brian's presence. I'm off to the second show tonight and will be happy to be proved wrong. The encore rocked ... even Barbara #$%^in' Ann.

I felt the crowd was broader that previous tours with a distinct "Love & Mercy' film influence about the attendees. I'm not a fan of the sound quality at the Opera House - its generally too muddy and not loud enough for my taste - it diminishes the live experience.

Having said all of the above about Pet Sounds I had a chance last night to hear a recording of the first Sydney show and Brian sounded much better than I (and others in attendance) could remember. Perhaps I've been over exposed to Brain and Pet Sounds - so perhaps it really is time for a Love You tour  ;D

I appreciate your on-site review, those are always important and of course one of the main reason to have a thread for the tour.

I think one of my hangups is that if it was indeed an "off night" (which Brian is certainly *well-known* to have, going all the way back to 1999, and frankly 1976 if not the 60s), that's very different from implying Brian has had a steady downward slide with no ups and downs, just "downs."

And then, it comes back to the point I've been making for years, which is that all of the (sometimes valid) arguments I see against Brian touring are arguments that would be just as cogent and valid in 1999 as they are in 2016. I'm not saying fans can't change their opinion or have an epiphany even if they've seen numerous shows and acknowledge the same deal is true of Brian that was true in 1999. But that's a very personal, self-reflective (and sometimes poignant) situation for a fan. Concert reviews, like any "review", in my opinion need to obviously work off of writer opinion, but also have some tone of objectivity threaded through it as well.

I've seen other fans sometimes have the "Holy s**t, I don't know if I can watch Brian shows anymore" moment, but that's not a good way to put together a concert review. I feel like the writer had an epiphany, but then tried to come up with reasons the change was more due to Brian (e.g. the 2004 show being better, it being an "off night", even turning to criticizing the backing band and comparing Matt Jardine to Foskett) instead of just saying "You know what, it was an off night, but I just personally can't do it anymore."

I've *never* been one of those "Brian's sounds amazing, just like 1966!" sort of fans. So I feel like my reviews of say, the 1999 tour were more subdued and realistic than some other fans, but now at this stage I feel pretty much the same way.

I *would* say that Brian's mood, particularly in June of last year when I caught opening night, was probably the best mood and most upbeat I've seen him since 2000. It has never been a "night and day" sort of change, but I do feel okay about Brian touring now in what I feel is a bit more of a homey, mellow place. I think Foskett being gone may have actually helped a little bit, and I think having Al in the band is no longer a weird, kind of dispassionate political maneuver like it was in 2006/2007, but instead is a case now where Brian actually likes him there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 31, 2016, 07:39:01 AM
Reviews of the second show are coming in, and it looks like it was much better. Most excellent.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 31, 2016, 08:12:10 AM
Then whoever put that schedule together needs a good talking to, as does whoever in Brian's organisation agreed to it.

That said, it seems the original report was broadly accurate, although l'd agree that it's unlikely the band were as bad as claimed (fwiw I've only once seen them truly poor, in 2005).

FWIW, the band certainly didn't put in a bad show overall by any means on Tuesday -- it's just, there were some noticeable fumbles, of a sort I'd literally never heard from them before.  (I dunno *what* happened in "Our Prayer", but it really jarred both me and my wife.)

Also for what it's worth, I spoke to a bunch of people after the show tonight who were at both Tuesday's and tonight's, and they all confirmed that tonight's was much better.  Brian was more on form, and apparently they'd made some adjustments to the sound mix too.  So unlike the guy at the Herald, I certainly wouldn't write off the tour based on one off night!

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2016, 08:17:46 AM
Based on one report, the setlist for 3/31 was the same as the first Sydney show, with "Then I Kissed Her" added back in but "Wake the World", "Add Some Music to Your Day", and "Honkin' Down the Highway" cut. Kind of a bummer they cut three "deep cuts."

Hope those songs aren't gone for good, or gone from regular rotation. Also a bummer they cut two (or two and a half) Al lead vocals, and that they cut the overall length of the show down a bit. I always figured a way to make the songs longer without taxing Brian more would be to hand another lead or two over to Al and Blondie.

I thought it had been interesting that the original 38-song setlist was identical in length to many of the 2000 PS shows. The 2000 show I saw was also 38 songs. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 31, 2016, 08:35:14 AM
I do hope Honkin' and Wake The World make it back into the set for the UK shows -- they were probably the two most exciting inclusions on the first night's setlist, at least for me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 31, 2016, 08:35:29 AM
Also, Alan and Blondie are great singers/musicians, but neither added much to the show.

I can't really agree with that -- I think they're each serving an important role in the band as it stands.  Al handling the likes of "Little Deuce Coupe" gives Brian a break while still keeping that authentic Beach Boy sound.  And Blondie?  He's really stretching the band this time around -- it's the contrast between cutting loose on an authentic "In Concert" arrangement of "Funky Pretty", almost back-to-back with the complete "Pet Sounds", which really drives home how damn talented they are.

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2016, 08:46:24 AM
The thing with Al is that he's actually a solid guitar player, better than he usually shows on stage. But he's not a flaming lead player, and in Brian's band he's there pretty much for vocals. Blondie is a good guitar player, but he obviously only plays a prominent role in this three-song set.

So Blondie's usually not on stage, and when Al's not singing, he's not adding much musically. I think Al does add a key part to many of the harmony parts in songs; when he's audible in the big group vocal mix, it immediately does make it sounds much more like the Beach Boys. His middle harmony part *is* that important. I do also think Al serves a bit of a Foskett-esque role on stage, literally sandwiching Brian between he and Darian.

I think both Al and Blondie *could* be utilized much more. But if it's a "Brian Wilson" show and not a "Wilson, Jardine, & Chaplin" show, how much of a main role should they play? I think a cool compromise or alternate idea would be like what Ringo Starr used to do with his All-Starr bands (and maybe he still does it now), which is to give the guys a few solo tracks in between sets. Brian can chillax back stage, and Al can come out solo or with small accompaniment and do "Santa Ana Winds" and/or something else solo. Same with Blondie. A 3-4 song solo set from Al and Blondie (or heck, get Matt or Darian in there for a song) would be a nice *bonus*, a little respite that wouldn't feel like it's horning in on Brian's main show.

If Brian's okay with having Rodriguez open with a half hour set, then I can't see why audiences would get restless with a 15-minute between-set interlude with Al and Blondie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 31, 2016, 08:54:48 AM
I think both Al and Blondie *could* be utilized much more. But if it's a "Brian Wilson" show and not a "Wilson, Jardine, & Chaplin" show, how much of a main role should they play? I think a cool compromise or alternate idea would be like what Ringo Starr used to do with his All-Starr bands (and maybe he still does it now), which is to give the guys a few solo tracks in between sets. Brian can chillax back stage, and Al can come out solo or with small accompaniment and do "Santa Ana Winds" and/or something else solo. Same with Blondie. A 3-4 song solo set from Al and Blondie (or heck, get Matt or Darian in there for a song) would be a nice *bonus*, a little respite that wouldn't feel like it's horning in on Brian's main show.

That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea. It'd give Al a chance to promote his solo CD some more, let us get to hear some unusual songs, let us hear more Al, and give us a longer show without overworking Brian. I can't really see a downside to the idea.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2016, 09:18:54 AM
I think both Al and Blondie *could* be utilized much more. But if it's a "Brian Wilson" show and not a "Wilson, Jardine, & Chaplin" show, how much of a main role should they play? I think a cool compromise or alternate idea would be like what Ringo Starr used to do with his All-Starr bands (and maybe he still does it now), which is to give the guys a few solo tracks in between sets. Brian can chillax back stage, and Al can come out solo or with small accompaniment and do "Santa Ana Winds" and/or something else solo. Same with Blondie. A 3-4 song solo set from Al and Blondie (or heck, get Matt or Darian in there for a song) would be a nice *bonus*, a little respite that wouldn't feel like it's horning in on Brian's main show.

That is a REALLY, REALLY good idea. It'd give Al a chance to promote his solo CD some more, let us get to hear some unusual songs, let us hear more Al, and give us a longer show without overworking Brian. I can't really see a downside to the idea.

And the thing is, these tickets aren't exactly on the cheap side. I've seen some indie bands in clubs for $20, and it's so refreshing to see a band for a fair price and up close. But they also don't do a two-hour set (in my experience; I'm sure there are exceptions). I just saw a band with a solid following at The Independent in San Francisco. Tickets were $20, the club holds maybe 300-400 people at the most. But the band did a 21-song set that was maybe 75 minutes.  

The two Brian shows I saw in 2015, neither of which had intermissions, clocked in at I would guess around 90 minutes.

The PS tour tickets are relatively expensive, it's a big production, it has no "opening act", so I think a 38-song setlist (instead of 32 or 33 last year) is a fair compromise, though I wish the shows would get more into the 42-46 songs regularly done on C50. But I fear we're going to see the setlist trimmed down a bit instead of get larger.

So yeah, let's lobby for a few solo spots for Al and Blondie. For that matter, they could have the entire band, sans Brian, come out and do a mini Al/Blondie set of less Brian-centric songs. "Lookin' at Tomorrow", etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on March 31, 2016, 09:38:33 AM
So yeah, let's lobby for a few solo spots for Al and Blondie. For that matter, they could have the entire band, sans Brian, come out and do a mini Al/Blondie set of less Brian-centric songs. "Lookin' at Tomorrow", etc.

Outstanding notion !


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on March 31, 2016, 09:43:57 AM
The PS tour tickets are relatively expensive, it's a big production, it has no "opening act", so I think a 38-song setlist (instead of 32 or 33 last year) is a fair compromise, though I wish the shows would get more into the 42-46 songs regularly done on C50. But I fear we're going to see the setlist trimmed down a bit instead of get larger.

I'd like to see the setlists get even longer than that. The UK Pet Sounds tours in 2002 regularly topped fifty songs, and that was without Al or Blondie to take up the slack.

(If Brian's feeling really competitive with Mike... well, Mike did sixty-song sets last year. Just saying ;) )

But I won't complain about thirty-eight songs when plenty of bands do much less... I do hope you're wrong about the setlists getting shorter though -- as you say, it's an expensive show, with no support, and while it pretty much *has* to be an expensive show with that many musicians to pay and transport, there's still the question of value for money.

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So yeah, let's lobby for a few solo spots for Al and Blondie. For that matter, they could have the entire band, sans Brian, come out and do a mini Al/Blondie set of less Brian-centric songs. "Lookin' at Tomorrow", etc.
Absolutely. I think the band-minus-Brian thing less likely than a mini acoustic set though.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on March 31, 2016, 10:04:38 AM
What if Mike and Bruce were to leave the stage for a mini set, and Jeff, Scott, and Ike could do an acoustic mini-set of their own?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on March 31, 2016, 10:08:55 AM
Then it would be papa doo run run! >:D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: lee on March 31, 2016, 10:19:11 AM
I'm disappointed to see songs like Wake the World, Add Some Music and especially Honkin' getting cut already. Hopefully they are not cut permanently. Aside from the Pet Sounds portion, the first set and the encore having nothing new from the No Pier Pressure setlists except Honkin' and Funky Pretty. That's why I really hate to see Honkin' already being cut.

 * I know Add Some Music didn't make it's way into last years set until late in the tour.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 31, 2016, 10:29:03 AM
Another view:  http://www.thebrag.com/music/brian-wilson-sydney-opera-house - Opinions and drama will fly, and great shows will continue to happen.  I don't think Brian or band need our coaching. 

If it was an off night, every band has one.  But let's not get into that argument posting links showing off-night YouTube videos and reviews of various band's shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on March 31, 2016, 11:31:48 AM
I'm disappointed to see songs like Wake the World, Add Some Music and especially Honkin' getting cut already. Hopefully they are not cut permanently.


Those songs were cut for the festival show, most likely do to time constraints, but made their way back into the setlist for the Sydney Opera House shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 31, 2016, 11:34:22 AM
So yeah, let's lobby for a few solo spots for Al and Blondie. For that matter, they could have the entire band, sans Brian, come out and do a mini Al/Blondie set of less Brian-centric songs. "Lookin' at Tomorrow", etc.

Outstanding notion !

I remember at one point years ago thinking that you could do a Wondermints / other-band-members-solo-stuff set, either as a lead-off to the second set to give Brian a break, or even with the band getting to be their own opening act.  Giving Al, Blondie, and/or David the slots would probably be more effective, though.  :-)

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on March 31, 2016, 11:36:50 AM
I'd like to see the setlists get even longer than that. The UK Pet Sounds tours in 2002 regularly topped fifty songs, and that was without Al or Blondie to take up the slack.

But then, remember that a lot of their regular songs are half as long as something like "Funky Pretty" or the Cantina version of "Heroes"!

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2016, 12:16:46 PM
I'm disappointed to see songs like Wake the World, Add Some Music and especially Honkin' getting cut already. Hopefully they are not cut permanently.


Those songs were cut for the festival show, most likely do to time constraints, but made their way back into the setlist for the Sydney Opera House shows.

An on-site report says those three were cut for the second night in Sydney, 3/31.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on March 31, 2016, 01:44:40 PM
I'm going to be deleting several posts in this thread. I have my reasons for it, and I'll leave it at that for now. Nothing personal.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on March 31, 2016, 02:01:03 PM
I'm going to be deleting several posts in this thread. I have my reasons for it, and I'll leave it at that for now. Nothing personal.

An unusual step to take Billy.  My post was one of those deleted.  I take it that was because I had quoted Debbie quoting Jon? I didn't say anything contentious.

I spent ages typing it too!  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on March 31, 2016, 02:11:49 PM
I'm going to be deleting several posts in this thread. I have my reasons for it, and I'll leave it at that for now. Nothing personal.

An unusual step to take Billy.  My post was one of those deleted.  I take it that was because I had quoted Debbie quoting Jon? I didn't say anything contentious.

I spent ages typing it too!  ;D

Yes, that's why.  I think it was a good idea to delete those posts. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TonyW on March 31, 2016, 02:59:10 PM
Last night was a triumph. Brian and the band nailed it!

It looks like the day's rest ... and a little bit of motivation from the Bernard Zuel article - really did the trick.

Last night was a different experience from the night before for me. The first night I was three rows back from the sound board but last night I was second row right in front of Al and Blondie.

First off I want to say how much Al adds to the show and how much vocals work he does and to be honest the more the better. The sound was fantastic - at least where I was - and talking with others in attendance throughout the theatre it was agreed the sound was much better. For example on night night one the bass harmonica was absent in the mix but last night it was loud and clear.

While last nights set list had less depth than the first show it was still a great mix of Brian's career.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2016, 03:15:59 PM
While I know that "a variety of parties" read this board, one never knows how often or how meticulously. So let me just say, if they bounced back with a good show based on critical feedback, then good on them, and if they're listening, please keep the rare, deep cuts in the setlist! And add more!

You've got a pretty learned group of fans in the audience, already waiting to hear PS in full. They'll be fine with and probably prefer "Wake the World" and "Honkin' Down the Highway" instead of "Shut Down."

My weird deep cut pick that I think Brian and the band could do really well: "Goin' On." Mertens is even there to do the 80s sax solo.

One of my things is to just hear something new and different. It's not even like "Honkin' Down the Highway" or "Funky Pretty" are two of *all-time favorites.* I like them, but they wouldn't be my first picks on my own wish list. But I dig it, because it's different.

Just changing it up night to night (and preferably a change more substantive than just *cutting* a song, or swapping the order of existing songs) is exciting, and makes it a bit of a surprise for nerds like me looking at every setlist. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: 18thofMay on March 31, 2016, 03:48:34 PM
Thursday's concert gave the family and myself to experience a Brian Wilson with us all in attendance for the first time. My Wife and 4 (7,9,10,11) boys plus me. Having spent over $1000 on tickets alone it was money very well spent. Being at the back was different to where I was seated on Tuesday but allowed great viewing and a more orchestral experience. The comparison to Tuesday would be that the band was tighter, they are so good at their craft that even if they are tired and or off they can still pull it together. No need to pull it together on Thursday , they were flying! Paul made a reference at the encore to the foolish SMH "journalist" by stating that they are not too old!
Brian was more talkative during songs but to me sounded just as good as he did on Tuesday.
The crowd was more receptive with several standing ovations which Brian would talk over to get the show moving along.
I once again had the pleasure of attending the after show gathering, all the guys were great and most were in attendance, no kick on shenanigans at the pub like Tuesday as I was still recovering!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on March 31, 2016, 05:49:32 PM
Thursday's concert gave the family and myself to experience a Brian Wilson with us all in attendance for the first time. My Wife and 4 (7,9,10,11) boys plus me. Having spent over $1000 on tickets alone it was money very well spent. Being at the back was different to where I was seated on Tuesday but allowed great viewing and a more orchestral experience. The comparison to Tuesday would be that the band was tighter, they are so good at their craft that even if they are tired and or off they can still pull it together. No need to pull it together on Thursday , they were flying! Paul made a reference at the encore to the foolish SMH "journalist" by stating that they are not too old!
Brian was more talkative during songs but to me sounded just as good as he did on Tuesday.
The crowd was more receptive with several standing ovations which Brian would talk over to get the show moving along.
I once again had the pleasure of attending the after show gathering, all the guys were great and most were in attendance, no kick on shenanigans at the pub like Tuesday as I was still recovering!



So glad you and your family all got to attend the shows.  It is worth the expense, isn't it?  Every show like this is a once-in-a-lifetime event.  Who cares about a journalist looking for mouse clicks with some controversy?  Other reviewers gave an actual balanced view of the performance. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: John Stivaktas on March 31, 2016, 06:51:24 PM
I went to the Tuesday Sydney show on the 29th. Yes, Brian had a few moments where lyrics were forgotten, he was off-key etc. but I was in the 12th row with my work colleague (and from there they sounded fine), a fellow Beach Boys fanatic, and I still consider the experience money well spent. The band were outstanding and I'm grateful I got to see them. If you've experienced the 2002 Pet Sounds tour shows then you'd know that Brian's band and show then were at the 'top of their form'. Surely no-one can expect the same at this stage of their careers? I was happy with the band performance on Tuesday night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on March 31, 2016, 08:01:46 PM
While I know that "a variety of parties" read this board, one never knows how often or how meticulously. So let me just say, if they bounced back with a good show based on critical feedback, then good on them, and if they're listening, please keep the rare, deep cuts in the setlist! And add more!

You've got a pretty learned group of fans in the audience, already waiting to hear PS in full. They'll be fine with and probably prefer "Wake the World" and "Honkin' Down the Highway" instead of "Shut Down."

My weird deep cut pick that I think Brian and the band could do really well: "Goin' On." Mertens is even there to do the 80s sax solo.

One of my things is to just hear something new and different. It's not even like "Honkin' Down the Highway" or "Funky Pretty" are two of *all-time favorites.* I like them, but they wouldn't be my first picks on my own wish list. But I dig it, because it's different.

Just changing it up night to night (and preferably a change more substantive than just *cutting* a song, or swapping the order of existing songs) is exciting, and makes it a bit of a surprise for nerds like me looking at every setlist. 

I just wanted to heartily concur with this post. I was sad to see Honkin', Add Some Music and Wake The World dropped from the show last night, and I'm really hoping they will be played on the Japan dates. If songs have to be dropped, I don't really see the point in 'Then I Kissed Her.'  Sure, it's a good chance for Al to have a lead vocal, but two of the dropped songs give the same chance (as would 'Add Some Music' if Al sang part of it), and since the setlist seems to mostly be avoiding songs that Brian didn't write or co-write, I'd personally be OK with dropping 'Then I Kissed Her,' and also 'Barbara Ann' as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on March 31, 2016, 08:47:48 PM
Sadly, if anyone was willing to sacrifice "Barbara Ann" from the setlist, it would probably have been done long ago.

It makes sense, because Surfin' USA and Fun Fun Fun work fine as rousing show closers. But it'll probably never happen.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 01, 2016, 12:25:56 AM
Don't know if this is still the case but I was told a few years ago that it's still there because Brian likes it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 01, 2016, 12:41:06 AM
it's not about Brian, it's about us cheeky, greedy, leeches that want Brian to do what 'we' want  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Andrew G. Doe on April 01, 2016, 04:40:59 AM
Interesting... I've been told by an FB friend that Brian was told of the less-than-flattering SMH review. Don't know if it was just "Brian, some dude gave you a really bad review" or if someone read it out to him. Hopefully not the latter: it's widely known that I'm not overprotective of Brian, but really, did he need to know this ? Hopefully whoever was responsible was censured. Maybe that's why the second night was a 180 turn.

Uh... can someone write a really, really bad review of the Cardiff gig, please ?  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 01, 2016, 04:47:36 AM
Interesting... I've been told by an FB friend that Brian was told of the less-than-flattering SMH review. Don't know if it was just "Brian, some dude gave you a really bad review" or if someone read it out to him. Hopefully not the latter: it's widely known that I'm not overprotective of Brian, but really, did he need to know this ? Hopefully whoever was responsible was censured. Maybe that's why the second night was a 180 turn.

Uh... can someone write a really, really bad review of the Cardiff gig, please ?  ;D

Yeah, it's bad enough for normal artists to read bad reviews, but for someone with Brian's problems, that could really hurt.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on April 01, 2016, 05:24:13 AM
The SMH review would be more devastating if it had been fairer. It's live theatre, these things happen and not just to Brian but to most artists. I remember Mike Love telling us at a 1970 London show at the Finsbury Park Astoria that at the previous show (which I'd also attended) they'd only been "40% there". Parts of this review were hardly objective, let alone empathetic.

I'm not blaming the management either - what a task trying to balance demand and availability and sometimes it doesn't matter, sometimes it does.

Anyway, from all accounts I've heard so far the second show was great so the guys ironed out the mistakes.

Inevitably there'll probably be other nights that are less good and hopefully many that are splendid. Those who want to hear Pet Sounds as it was in 1966 have got the records.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 01, 2016, 06:07:09 AM
I was actually wondering if that had happened considering all the songs that were hand-picked by that POS review were snipped from the set the second night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 01, 2016, 07:05:18 AM
Feel free to tear this ageist reviewer a new one:
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/brian-wilson-review-beach-boy-was-once-genius-but-its-time-to-let-it-go-20160330-gntq79.html

BRIAN WILSON REVIEW: BEACH BOY WAS ONCE GENIUS BUT IT'S TIME TO LET IT GO
March 30, 2016
Bernard Zuel

I'm of the sentiment that no one should be expected to give up their art just because they're getting older.
Thanks, Emdeeh for this.  This guy was born in 1965 and was a year old when Pet Sounds was released.  For starters, he has no historic context.  And he is playing the "age" card.  My turn.   They sent a boy to do a  man's  job. (Or a girl to do a woman's job.)  I just watched the Youtubes and he could not be more wrong.  I hope by the time Brian is back in the States, they have added Leaving This Town for Blondie to take the lead.  

When an artist decides to cease creating, or touring is his or her business alone.  Not a hired-hand reviewer.   It is aegism at it's worst. I don't have the expectation that a live show sound like a studio product.  Or, that a 73 year-old sound like a 20 year-old.  Give me the real deal that has aged like a fine cabernet.

The only one having an "off night" was Bernard Zuel. He was ill-suited to present the work for the readership.  Next time they should send a man instead of a boy.    ;)

 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 01, 2016, 07:17:23 AM
Controversy = click bait.  I clicked once.  That was enough.  This reviewer should be in our rear-view mirror. 

We know how amazing Brian, Al, Blondie, Matt and band are.  More realistic reviews were published.  The fans who attended were happy with both shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 01, 2016, 07:21:44 AM
Interesting... I've been told by an FB friend that Brian was told of the less-than-flattering SMH review. Don't know if it was just "Brian, some dude gave you a really bad review" or if someone read it out to him. Hopefully not the latter: it's widely known that I'm not overprotective of Brian, but really, did he need to know this ? Hopefully whoever was responsible was censured. Maybe that's why the second night was a 180 turn.

Uh... can someone write a really, really bad review of the Cardiff gig, please ?  ;D

That has to be a tough decision to make. On the one hand, any artist has to know that criticism exists, and Brian certainly has to remember that not every gig and album has received flattering reviews over the years.

I don't think there's anything wrong with appropriate people (e.g. road managers, agent, those whose job it is to manage one's career) mentioning the review. I also don't think it's always best to immediately just dismiss the criticism. Ultimately, I think the Sydney guy wrote a pretty hack review. Some of the observations perhaps were not without some warrant, but his context seemed all off and despite the assurance that he had liked previous shows, it kind of read like a hit piece. The Foskett comment was a tad weird as well. But I don't think it would need to be a "Hey, Brian, there's one review from some guy. It's total BS and you shouldn't even listen to it." But at the same time, I don't think it would need to be dragged out and recounted word-for-word in anguishing detail.

If Brian and the band got a bad review, whether justified or not, and upped their game, I guess that can't be a bad thing, right?

As someone else alluded to, the main reason I *hope* they're not listening to the bad review is that three deep cuts got cut for no immediately obvious reason (it wasn't a festival show or a casino show; it indeed was the same venue for a second night, so why three songs less, and three of the interesting ones?).

Al might end up being the one who got fudged by this review if the reaction is to drop "Honkin'", since I can only imagine he's been chomping at the bit to do that one with Brian more than Brian has.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 01, 2016, 07:23:21 AM
Controversy = click bait.  I clicked once.  That was enough.  This reviewer should be in our rear-view mirror. 

We know how amazing Brian, Al, Blondie, Matt and band are.  More realistic reviews were published.  The fans who attended were happy with both shows.

Click bait is a good point, and it sadly does work. What's going to get more eyes. Generally positive review #5, or controversial scathing review #1?

It's the same reason those magazines name "Sgt. Pepper" #1 on "Worst Album of All-Time" lists. They want people to turn their heads and go "whaaaa?"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 01, 2016, 07:32:50 AM
Controversy = click bait.  I clicked once.  That was enough.  This reviewer should be in our rear-view mirror. 

We know how amazing Brian, Al, Blondie, Matt and band are.  More realistic reviews were published.  The fans who attended were happy with both shows.

A 2-star review might need to be reviewed by those concert goers. I just reopened the page, and there are no comments from those who attended. Or those who have seen the Youtubes and can opine. There should be an op-ed.  

The paper owners pay attention to the commentary.  Bemoaning the review here, might not be as productive as commentary from those who attended, supported by Youtube references, for all to see and review, and might be more useful.  It is not in the rear-view mirror in my opinion.  The informed opinions of those who actually also saw the concert render the review less one-sided.  

We are not always "going forward" as the politically correct narrative of today, would like to lead us. We have to look in that rear view mirror to see what is chasing us.  And fix those past mistakes if they were mistakes.  I would urge those who actually saw the concert to take a minute and thoughtfully counter this ageist review on their website.  Zuel is suggesting that Brian (and others) be put to pasture.  Highly inappropriate and intolerant.  

Zuel is not the arbiter of that decision and needs to be called out on exactly that.  JMHO  ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 01, 2016, 09:28:13 AM

...did he need to know this?


Hell yeah! He had done a good show just 3 days earlier. Call me tough if you like but leave the kid gloves at home or in the hotel room. As soon as you are taking money from people you need to be a professional. That goes for any entertainer or sportsman. Hopefully Brian or his people could then say "Something needs to be done about the schedule." As others have said, having so many shows around travel days and time zone changes must be tiring. I last saw Brian at the C50 in Melbourne the day after the Sydney show. He sang ok but his stage presence appeared uninterested. Auckland was much better as he had been in town a few days, and it was the first night of course.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on April 01, 2016, 09:40:23 AM

...did he need to know this?


Hell yeah! He had done a good show just 3 days earlier. Call me tough if you like but leave the kid gloves at home or in the hotel room. As soon as you are taking money from people you need to be a professional. That goes for any entertainer or sportsman. Hopefully Brian or his people could then say "Something needs to be done about the schedule." As others have said, having so many shows around travel days and time zone changes must be tiring. I last saw Brian at the C50 in Melbourne the day after the Sydney show. He sang ok but his stage presence appeared uninterested. Auckland was much better as he had been in town a few days, and it was the first night of course.



I accept this to a point but the opinion of one reviewer should be considered in the light of the other reviews and the audience reaction and posts in places like this. A great shame if certain songs are dropped from the setlist just because of the feelings of one person. Funky Pretty "questionable"? Meaning what, exactly?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 01, 2016, 09:42:45 AM
Interesting... I've been told by an FB friend that Brian was told of the less-than-flattering SMH review. Don't know if it was just "Brian, some dude gave you a really bad review" or if someone read it out to him. Hopefully not the latter: it's widely known that I'm not overprotective of Brian, but really, did he need to know this ? Hopefully whoever was responsible was censured. Maybe that's why the second night was a 180 turn.

Uh... can someone write a really, really bad review of the Cardiff gig, please ?  ;D

That has to be a tough decision to make. On the one hand, any artist has to know that criticism exists, and Brian certainly has to remember that not every gig and album has received flattering reviews over the years.

I don't think there's anything wrong with appropriate people (e.g. road managers, agent, those whose job it is to manage one's career) mentioning the review. I also don't think it's always best to immediately just dismiss the criticism. Ultimately, I think the Sydney guy wrote a pretty hack review. Some of the observations perhaps were not without some warrant, but his context seemed all off and despite the assurance that he had liked previous shows, it kind of read like a hit piece. The Foskett comment was a tad weird as well. But I don't think it would need to be a "Hey, Brian, there's one review from some guy. It's total BS and you shouldn't even listen to it." But at the same time, I don't think it would need to be dragged out and recounted word-for-word in anguishing detail.

If Brian and the band got a bad review, whether justified or not, and upped their game, I guess that can't be a bad thing, right?

As someone else alluded to, the main reason I *hope* they're not listening to the bad review is that three deep cuts got cut for no immediately obvious reason (it wasn't a festival show or a casino show; it indeed was the same venue for a second night, so why three songs less, and three of the interesting ones?).

Al might end up being the one who got fudged by this review if the reaction is to drop "Honkin'", since I can only imagine he's been chomping at the bit to do that one with Brian more than Brian has.

Thank you for finding and keying in on one line from the review that I missed on the first read-through, but saw it jumping off the page when I re-read it after seeing this post. The whole thing makes more sense now...good catch.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 01, 2016, 10:13:07 AM

Al might end up being the one who got fudged by this review if the reaction is to drop "Honkin'", since I can only imagine he's been chomping at the bit to do that one with Brian more than Brian has.

I do wonder how much Al truly wants to perform "Honkin'", and whether he truly digs the song or not... or if it's more of an obligation to play it since it's somewhat of a hardcore fan favorite, and there aren't all that many of those with original Al vocals.

At the recent Wild Honey show in Glendale, CA, Al made a comment to the effect of "Here's a song that Brian wrote and I sung... maybe he should have sung it!"... which made me think Al might feel ill-suited to sing it because of its odd lyrics.  

I wonder if the "take it, one little inch at a time now, till you're feeling fine now" double entendre lyrics were lost on Al when he sung the studio version, much in the way I imagine the "now she's tripping on some Chinese junk" lyric from "Somewhere Near Japan" might not have had its ulterior drug meaning register on Al's radar until after the fact, when the song had been recorded and released into the wild. I would love to have seen the look on Al's face when he learned that he'd unknowingly sung about dodgy topics he may not have wished or known about at the time of recording  ;D

I could see that Al, years later, having learned about "Honkin"'s rather graphic sex reference, might feel a touch embarrassed singing it, but still nevertheless does sing it from time to time depending on the circumstances.

That said, I *love* "Honkin'" and I really, really hope that they keep playing it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 01, 2016, 10:32:12 AM

...did he need to know this?


Hell yeah! He had done a good show just 3 days earlier. Call me tough if you like but leave the kid gloves at home or in the hotel room. As soon as you are taking money from people you need to be a professional. That goes for any entertainer or sportsman. Hopefully Brian or his people could then say "Something needs to be done about the schedule." As others have said, having so many shows around travel days and time zone changes must be tiring. I last saw Brian at the C50 in Melbourne the day after the Sydney show. He sang ok but his stage presence appeared uninterested. Auckland was much better as he had been in town a few days, and it was the first night of course.



I accept this to a point but the opinion of one reviewer should be considered in the light of the other reviews and the audience reaction and posts in places like this. A great shame if certain songs are dropped from the setlist just because of the feelings of one person. Funky Pretty "questionable"? Meaning what, exactly?

They better get used to it. I'm sure this won't be the only negative review during the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on April 01, 2016, 11:34:50 AM

Al might end up being the one who got fudged by this review if the reaction is to drop "Honkin'", since I can only imagine he's been chomping at the bit to do that one with Brian more than Brian has.

I do wonder how much Al truly wants to perform "Honkin'", and whether he truly digs the song or not... or if it's more of an obligation to play it since it's somewhat of a hardcore fan favorite, and there aren't all that many of those with original Al vocals.

At the recent Wild Honey show in Glendale, CA, Al made a comment to the effect of "Here's a song that Brian wrote and I sung... maybe he should have sung it!"... which made me think Al might feel ill-suited to sing it because of its odd lyrics.  

I wonder if the "take it, one little inch at a time now, till you're feeling fine now" double entendre lyrics were lost on Al when he sung the studio version, much in the way I imagine the "now she's tripping on some Chinese junk" lyric from "Somewhere Near Japan" might not have had its ulterior drug meaning register on Al's radar until after the fact, when the song had been recorded and released into the wild. I would love to have seen the look on Al's face when he learned that he'd unknowingly sung about dodgy topics he may not have wished or known about at the time of recording  ;D

I could see that Al, years later, having learned about "Honkin"'s rather graphic sex reference, might feel a touch embarrassed singing it, but still nevertheless does sing it from time to time depending on the circumstances.

That said, I *love* "Honkin'" and I really, really hope that they keep playing it!

I would think that if he didn't like the song, he wouldn't have covered it on his solo album.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 01, 2016, 11:42:43 AM

Al might end up being the one who got fudged by this review if the reaction is to drop "Honkin'", since I can only imagine he's been chomping at the bit to do that one with Brian more than Brian has.

I do wonder how much Al truly wants to perform "Honkin'", and whether he truly digs the song or not... or if it's more of an obligation to play it since it's somewhat of a hardcore fan favorite, and there aren't all that many of those with original Al vocals.

At the recent Wild Honey show in Glendale, CA, Al made a comment to the effect of "Here's a song that Brian wrote and I sung... maybe he should have sung it!"... which made me think Al might feel ill-suited to sing it because of its odd lyrics.  

I wonder if the "take it, one little inch at a time now, till you're feeling fine now" double entendre lyrics were lost on Al when he sung the studio version, much in the way I imagine the "now she's tripping on some Chinese junk" lyric from "Somewhere Near Japan" might not have had its ulterior drug meaning register on Al's radar until after the fact, when the song had been recorded and released into the wild. I would love to have seen the look on Al's face when he learned that he'd unknowingly sung about dodgy topics he may not have wished or known about at the time of recording  ;D

I could see that Al, years later, having learned about "Honkin"'s rather graphic sex reference, might feel a touch embarrassed singing it, but still nevertheless does sing it from time to time depending on the circumstances.

That said, I *love* "Honkin'" and I really, really hope that they keep playing it!

I would think that if he didn't like the song, he wouldn't have covered it on his solo album.

Well, that's a fair point to make. I'm not sure it's a "dislike" so much as a touch of possible unease, coupled with the fact of being appreciative that fans seem to dig the song. At least that's the takeaway I have based on the comments I witnessed Al make about how Brian should have sung it - I'm not sure why else he would have said that comment if not for the odd lyrics, with the sex reference probably the most quirky "easter egg" contained within the song (I, for one, didn't put two and two together about the sex reference until I heard it mentioned on this board).  

There seem to be very few BB songs with original Al leads (other than the done-to-death Help Me Rhonda) that Al probably to this day still gets attention/requests from fans... so I think he's perhaps made peace with the song, even if his comment seems to indicate he nevertheless feels a bit ill-suited to have been the BB chosen to originally sing it, IMO perhaps because he may think that the song is particularly Brian-centric lyrically.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on April 01, 2016, 12:57:33 PM
Regarding Barbara Ann, Brian has said several times he likes that song. In fact, I think during the Endless Summer TV Special, he begs the guys to do it despite their groans and says it's a great song. Probably why they recorded it to begin with.

Honkin doesn't seem to bother Al and he's always denied it's him who was bothered by Somewhere Near Japan. I think there is some truth to that.  The fact that  M and B never put it in the setlist all these years I think speaks to their thoughts about it .


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 01, 2016, 01:19:32 PM
I can't imagine Al dislikes Honkin'. While it was apparently Adam Marsland getting Al to cover the song in a gig they backed him on that first got Al reacquainted with the song, I don't think he would have put it in his album if he was kind of "meh" about it.

Perhaps Al realizes it's a goofy song, and maybe he worries non-hardcore fans will ask WTF? But I doubt he dislikes it.

I think fans lately have only been asking for that song because they figure it's more likely because Brian wrote it and Al sang it originally, and Brian has an affinity for Love You. There are other Al songs I would pick over Honkin'.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: AndrewHickey on April 01, 2016, 01:36:54 PM
I can't imagine Al dislikes Honkin'. While it was apparently Adam Marsland getting Al to cover the song in a gig they backed him on that first got Al reacquainted with the song, I don't think he would have put it in his album if he was kind of "meh" about it.

Perhaps Al realizes it's a goofy song, and maybe he worries non-hardcore fans will ask WTF? But I doubt he dislikes it.

I think fans lately have only been asking for that song because they figure it's more likely because Brian wrote it and Al sang it originally, and Brian has an affinity for Love You. There are other Al songs I would pick over Honkin'.

Al talked before the reunion tour, and again in 2013 I think, about how much he likes Love You, thinks it's an underrated album, and would like to do some songs from it live. Between that and him including it on his solo album, I can't see it being a song he has any problem with at all.

If the reaction to that review was part of the reason it was dropped, and if as we're often told people in Brian's "camp" read this board, I do hope they will pay attention to the calls to reinstate it. It's a great song -- as are the other songs they cut. Whatever the quality of the performance, which obviously I didn't see, the reviewer was definitely wrong about the songs he picked to complain about.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 01, 2016, 03:51:07 PM
I can't imagine Al dislikes Honkin'. While it was apparently Adam Marsland getting Al to cover the song in a gig they backed him on that first got Al reacquainted with the song, I don't think he would have put it in his album if he was kind of "meh" about it.

Perhaps Al realizes it's a goofy song, and maybe he worries non-hardcore fans will ask WTF? But I doubt he dislikes it.

I think fans lately have only been asking for that song because they figure it's more likely because Brian wrote it and Al sang it originally, and Brian has an affinity for Love You. There are other Al songs I would pick over Honkin'.

All good points. I just wonder why he jokingly stated that he shouldn't have been the original lead singer on the song. I can only guess that has to do with the song being a much more uniquely Brian type of tune.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Dogbone51 on April 01, 2016, 05:44:18 PM
Also, Alan and Blondie are great singers/musicians, but neither added much to the show.

I can't really agree with that -- I think they're each serving an important role in the band as it stands.  Al handling the likes of "Little Deuce Coupe" gives Brian a break while still keeping that authentic Beach Boy sound.  And Blondie?  He's really stretching the band this time around -- it's the contrast between cutting loose on an authentic "In Concert" arrangement of "Funky Pretty", almost back-to-back with the complete "Pet Sounds", which really drives home how damn talented they are.

Cheers,
Jon Blum

Hey Jon--

I think you missed what I was actually saying.  For the show in San Francisco, Al and Blondie didn't really make the show any better by being there.  I wasn't questioning or commenting
on their "role", whatever it might be, in being on the tour with Brian. 

Of course Al and Blondie do support Brian, but the show would go on, whether they were there or not.  I'm glad they're both touring with Brian,  and yes, Al singing some songs,
does give Brian a break here and there.   But my point was that the show in San Francisco was still a bit flat and a bit uninspired.  Blondie doing "Sail On, Sailor" was fine, but
like I said, "Wild Honey" just wasn't that good.  Just didn't have it.  The current arrangement is pretty awful and Blondie seemed to fumble at the words.  This is not to say he should
sing them "exactly" like the record, but his performance just seem rushed and under rehearsed to me.  Just didn't like it.   As for him doing "Funky Pretty" on this tour, I've not heard
any performances of it yet, so I can't comment.   

And further for those two being on the current tour, I see what others say, and perhaps it would be nice if Al was given the spotlight to do a set of a few songs acoustically or with
just him and Matt and a few others, while Brian leaves the stage for a bit.  But we know it's "Brian's Gig" and this isn't going to happen.  Shame really, as I think it
might be fun and something fresh.

Anyway, I'm not knocking the talent that both Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin have.  They're great musicians and great singers.  But this talent didn't seem to
be really showing in San Francisco last year.   This was my main point. 

Cheers,

Dogbone


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on April 02, 2016, 03:23:32 AM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 02, 2016, 03:44:29 AM
Gday Alan, a few guys are gonna meet at laikas taps bar which is at 9 Fitzroy street at 4.30pm.
If you feel lost come on down, I'm trying to get to there myself. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Moz from Oz on April 02, 2016, 05:32:40 AM
Gday Alan, a few guys are gonna meet at laikas taps bar which is at 9 Fitzroy street at 4.30pm.
If you feel lost come on down, I'm trying to get to there myself. 

Yes, there's a casual meet up at Laika's in Fitzroy St at 4.30. There'll be an area set aside under my surname ( Dowsett ) for anyone interested. I'll be at the meet & greet from 3.30 but still hoping to be there at some point for a quick 1 o 2. For anyone that knows Joy and Jay from Perth, they'll be there, as well as a couple of others.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 02, 2016, 04:21:57 PM
9 HOURS TO GO!!!  BRIAN WILSON IN MELBOURNE!  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kiwi surfer on April 02, 2016, 09:02:57 PM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on April 02, 2016, 09:29:20 PM
I'm embarrassed about how this guy forms sentences.  Most journalists here can write properly.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on April 02, 2016, 09:31:07 PM
What a weird ending to the article. Brian's not perfect, but I think some of these New Zealand/Australian press is really missing the boat on these reviews/articles.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 03, 2016, 01:35:22 AM
What a weird ending to the article. Brian's not perfect, but I think some of these New Zealand/Australian press is really missing the boat on these reviews/articles.

Very disrespectful article, especially the mention of Randle McMurphy.  Brian has mental health issues but still seems to be fair game to these people.  Personally, I would take him out of the firing line.  Is it really worth it to sell some tickets?  There are other ways to promote gigs.

As for the 'journalists', my theory is that they need to justify the fact they didn't get much out of Brian so they leave the readers in no doubt as to how difficult he is to interview, rather than it seem they weren't good at their job.  Either way nobody comes off looking good.

I'm fed up reading the same negative interviews over and over.  Brian deserves better.  At least the fans can see through it all and the comments at the bottom of the article were positive.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on April 03, 2016, 05:45:36 AM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on

Thank you, kiwi surfer, for the link. I enjoyed the article but these sentences made me feel a little...uncomfortable:

"But I have only 20 minutes by telephone. Then just 15, with the promise of a nameless manager listening in to ensure I don't stray too far from the nominated topics..."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 03, 2016, 06:22:03 AM
For the love of BW...... ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on April 03, 2016, 06:25:25 AM
Melbourne gig = a blast!

Many classic BW moments, my particular fave telling us all to stop clapping as the GV bridge started to wind down.

Touching standing ovation for GOK and Al & Blondie on fire, smokin' percussion and drum solo during PS (the song), and Paul Mertens certainly wailin' that sax.  Matt Jardine had Brian's back throughout and nothin' but high praise for the entire band, as expected.

Great to see Moz and meet Bringahorseinhere (RickB).

Should be a pretty sharp show by the time it returns to the USA.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on April 03, 2016, 06:33:21 AM
Great to hear the Australian smilers had a blast!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 03, 2016, 07:52:21 AM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on
Thanks, kiwi surfer for the link.  ;)

The good...that people make comments following the article.

The bad.  I found a lot of what was written was mostly common knowledge for informed fans. The interviewer should have been a boomer who could have engaged Brian as a contemporary and asked  about the detour from girls-cars-surf to more thoughtful and introspective music, and music that would raise awareness about the evils of colonialism (Holland) the migration of settlers in America, and environmental issues.  The writer could have asked how his children connect to the music. 

This was a wiki based or low-level research based article.  His legacy of work supersedes whatever personal struggles Brian has endured.  Ask about the work.  Ask about the process. Ask about bringing innovative sound effects that the whole world has been exposed to.   

Another boy doing a man's job.  JMHO



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 03, 2016, 09:18:13 AM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on
Thanks, kiwi surfer for the link.  ;)

The good...that people make comments following the article.

The bad.  I found a lot of what was written was mostly common knowledge for informed fans. The interviewer should have been a boomer who could have engaged Brian as a contemporary and asked  about the detour from girls-cars-surf to more thoughtful and introspective music, and music that would raise awareness about the evils of colonialism (Holland) the migration of settlers in America, and environmental issues.  The writer could have asked how his children connect to the music. 

This was a wiki based or low-level research based article.  His legacy of work supersedes whatever personal struggles Brian has endured.  Ask about the work.  Ask about the process. Ask about bringing innovative sound effects that the whole world has been exposed to.   

Another boy doing a man's job.  JMHO



I doubt he would have gotten answers to those questions anyway.  Brian just doesn't enjoy interviews.  The quick 15 minute phone call is not conducive to Brian opening up. Hence, why I said a few posts up I don't think he should need to do them anymore.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 03, 2016, 09:30:18 AM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on
Thanks, kiwi surfer for the link.  ;)

The good...that people make comments following the article.

The bad.  I found a lot of what was written was mostly common knowledge for informed fans. The interviewer should have been a boomer who could have engaged Brian as a contemporary and asked  about the detour from girls-cars-surf to more thoughtful and introspective music, and music that would raise awareness about the evils of colonialism (Holland) the migration of settlers in America, and environmental issues.  The writer could have asked how his children connect to the music. 

This was a wiki based or low-level research based article.  His legacy of work supersedes whatever personal struggles Brian has endured.  Ask about the work.  Ask about the process. Ask about bringing innovative sound effects that the whole world has been exposed to.   

Another boy doing a man's job.  JMHO



I doubt he would have gotten answers to those questions anyway.  Brian just doesn't enjoy interviews.  The quick 15 minute phone call is not conducive to Brian opening up. Hence, why I said a few posts up I don't think he should need to do them anymore.
So, if a publication does it's homework ahead of time, and is looking to be effective and sensitive, they do their homework like Barbara Walters or Larry King has done.  There is no need to ask about Landy.  There is a need to talk about Pet Sounds and other work that went from popular music to become music standards in our culture.  I have seen some in-person interviews (some pre-C50) where Brian was funny and candid. 

And of course it is a big deal to have this tour in each particular region and it will be covered as a concert review because it is an important event, but even those should be conducted by someone highly experienced who can ask non-offensive, non-personally invasive (as they should do with everyone) questions and center it on the work and it's lasting impact rather than tabloid trash.  Landy is yesterday's news.  Today's news is that the music is still pertinent for both veteran listeners as well as young people. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 03, 2016, 09:59:27 AM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on
Thanks, kiwi surfer for the link.  ;)

The good...that people make comments following the article.

The bad.  I found a lot of what was written was mostly common knowledge for informed fans. The interviewer should have been a boomer who could have engaged Brian as a contemporary and asked  about the detour from girls-cars-surf to more thoughtful and introspective music, and music that would raise awareness about the evils of colonialism (Holland) the migration of settlers in America, and environmental issues.  The writer could have asked how his children connect to the music. 

This was a wiki based or low-level research based article.  His legacy of work supersedes whatever personal struggles Brian has endured.  Ask about the work.  Ask about the process. Ask about bringing innovative sound effects that the whole world has been exposed to.   

Another boy doing a man's job.  JMHO



Should've been a boomer?  Ageism isn't cool. Hell, I'm 38 and I've probably forgotten more about Brian than many will ever learn.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on April 03, 2016, 10:26:43 AM
Personally I'm not a fan of saying who a writer/interviewer should have been, or what s/he should have written. It's the interviewer/writer's prerogative to write what s/he wants, and everyone reader's job to form an opinion of the result. But it's just not very productive (for example) for me to say Batman v. Superman should have done without the superheroes, or that Star Wars should cut out the space crap.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 03, 2016, 10:56:23 AM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on
Thanks, kiwi surfer for the link.  ;)

The good...that people make comments following the article.

The bad.  I found a lot of what was written was mostly common knowledge for informed fans. The interviewer should have been a boomer who could have engaged Brian as a contemporary and asked  about the detour from girls-cars-surf to more thoughtful and introspective music, and music that would raise awareness about the evils of colonialism (Holland) the migration of settlers in America, and environmental issues.  The writer could have asked how his children connect to the music.  

This was a wiki based or low-level research based article.  His legacy of work supersedes whatever personal struggles Brian has endured.  Ask about the work.  Ask about the process. Ask about bringing innovative sound effects that the whole world has been exposed to.  

Another boy doing a man's job.  JMHO



Should've been a boomer?  Ageism isn't cool. Hell, I'm 38 and I've probably forgotten more about Brian than many will ever learn.
Might sound ageist, but not really.  It is more situation ethics.  Brian is not some low-level political candidate running for office for example, where the issues are general, and time-specific and focused on a small election cycle and where some basic fact-bases will get you answers about election issues.  

Brian is someone whose work is so unique, and generation-spanning that the best person is someone who experienced the same frame of reference in real time that Brian did.  There are unique people who require someone better, in my opinion who appears to have done only cursory research (as we have seen in a couple of interviews in this thread) and in one at least who are suggesting that he be put "out to pasture."   These are rookies.  A rookie doing a phone interview, with a publication with a high readership is liable to do more harm than good.  Maybe they should be sending out a veteran reporter who grew up listening to the Beach Boys music in the 60's and drove those same hot rods, and grew alongside the music in post WWII America.  You put your best experienced person on the job.  

It is not age discrimination; it is being smart. I used Barbara Walters as an example, because of her rare ability to be sensitive and know the subject matter. She is in her 80's and still working.  Or someone else who is a contemporary of Brian's and can ask those things that go well beyond one's personal life, and look at the work, the technique and the longevity of the music.  I know you know have forgotten more about Brian than others will ever know, but you are not writing for a publication in a country with a readership that goes beyond the borders.  Your expertise is enjoyed by the finite (or infinite) readership here. It is a special subject matter that merits special treatment beyond a cursory wiki lookup.  A boomer does not have to ask or research what it was like to live in the 60's.  I don't have that late 50's high school experience that was a prime mover for the music being driven towards the youth of the time.  

And Brian's generation is pushing the envelope as to when they determine the age of retirement.  Tony Bennett is the new benchmark. Jagger still tours.  Ringo tours.  It is not for largely uninformed reporters to determine and shape what the public opinion of musician/performers to ask "Surely his time on stage is coming to an end? I don't know, he says ponderously. I don't think I will retire that soon."

Nor is asking  "Foolishly I make it a double headed question about whether he learned anything from soaking himself in psychedelic drugs for so long." Good interviewers ask one question at a time.  

Later in the interview he asks again "Does he regret what happened after those creative years?  No, Does he look back often?  No.  I ask again what he learned from that time?" This sounds like a question a teacher would ask a student after detention. Worst of all is the "I feel like Nurse Ratched, with wilson playing the post-ECT Randell McMurphy." And, "a mind polluted by years of ingesting industrial-strength quantities of cocaine, LSD, marijuana and benzedrine.."    

Using that disparaging language and those references, the music, which is the most important focus, is lost, before square one.  And, if I were running that publication, I would find a writer who was a contemporary of Brian's and who could relate to the evolution of music, try to get Brian to share his boldness in instrumentation and vocals, with the readership, or talk about writing in modules or other stuff that was unheard of, at that time, that made every musician who was Brian's contemporary imitate him, but who also knows the music of that era like the back of his/her hand.  

Who should ask what Brian "learned?"  They should be asking how it feels to have "taught and inspired" multiple generations over 55 years.          

No offense meant to young people - but to those publications;  Just find someone who has as much time listening to Brian as he has been composing about the enduring legacy of his brand of music.   ;) And, JMHO, of course.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 03, 2016, 11:48:05 AM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on
Thanks, kiwi surfer for the link.  ;)

The good...that people make comments following the article.

The bad.  I found a lot of what was written was mostly common knowledge for informed fans. The interviewer should have been a boomer who could have engaged Brian as a contemporary and asked  about the detour from girls-cars-surf to more thoughtful and introspective music, and music that would raise awareness about the evils of colonialism (Holland) the migration of settlers in America, and environmental issues.  The writer could have asked how his children connect to the music.  

This was a wiki based or low-level research based article.  His legacy of work supersedes whatever personal struggles Brian has endured.  Ask about the work.  Ask about the process. Ask about bringing innovative sound effects that the whole world has been exposed to.  

Another boy doing a man's job.  JMHO



Should've been a boomer?  Ageism isn't cool. Hell, I'm 38 and I've probably forgotten more about Brian than many will ever learn.
Might sound ageist, but not really.  It is more situation ethics.  Brian is not some low-level political candidate running for office for example, where the issues are general, and time-specific and focused on a small election cycle and where some basic fact-bases will get you answers about election issues.  

Brian is someone whose work is so unique, and generation-spanning that the best person is someone who experienced the same frame of reference in real time that Brian did.  There are unique people who require someone better, in my opinion who appears to have done only cursory research (as we have seen in a couple of interviews in this thread) and in one at least who are suggesting that he be put "out to pasture."   These are rookies.  A rookie doing a phone interview, with a publication with a high readership is liable to do more harm than good.  Maybe they should be sending out a veteran reporter who grew up listening to the Beach Boys music in the 60's and drove those same hot rods, and grew alongside the music in post WWII America.  You put your best experienced person on the job.  

It is not age discrimination; it is being smart. I used Barbara Walters as an example, because of her rare ability to be sensitive and know the subject matter. She is in her 80's and still working.  Or someone else who is a contemporary of Brian's and can ask those things that go well beyond one's personal life, and look at the work, the technique and the longevity of the music.  I know you know have forgotten more about Brian than others will ever know, but you are not writing for a publication in a country with a readership that goes beyond the borders.  Your expertise is enjoyed by the finite (or infinite) readership here. It is a special subject matter that merits special treatment beyond a cursory wiki lookup.  A boomer does not have to ask or research what it was like to live in the 60's.  I don't have that late 50's high school experience that was a prime mover for the music being driven towards the youth of the time.  

And Brian's generation is pushing the envelope as to when they determine the age of retirement.  Tony Bennett is the new benchmark. Jagger still tours.  Ringo tours.  It is not for largely uninformed reporters to determine and shape what the public opinion of musician/performers to ask "Surely his time on stage is coming to an end? I don't know, he says ponderously. I don't think I will retire that soon."

Nor is asking  "Foolishly I make it a double headed question about whether he learned anything from soaking himself in psychedelic drugs for so long." Good interviewers ask one question at a time.  

Later in the interview he asks again "Does he regret what happened after those creative years?  No, Does he look back often?  No.  I ask again what he learned from that time?" This sounds like a question a teacher would ask a student after detention. Worst of all is the "I feel like Nurse Ratched, with wilson playing the post-ECT Randell McMurphy." And, "a mind polluted by years of ingesting industrial-strength quantities of cocaine, LSD, marijuana and benzedrine.."    

Using that disparaging language and those references, the music, which is the most important focus, is lost, before square one.  And, if I were running that publication, I would find a writer who was a contemporary of Brian's and who could relate to the evolution of music, try to get Brian to share his boldness in instrumentation and vocals, with the readership, or talk about writing in modules or other stuff that was unheard of, at that time, that made every musician who was Brian's contemporary imitate him, but who also knows the music of that era like the back of his/her hand.  

Who should ask what Brian "learned?"  They should be asking how it feels to have "taught and inspired" multiple generations over 55 years.          

No offense meant to young people - but to those publications;  Just find someone who has as much time listening to Brian as he has been composing about the enduring legacy of his brand of music.   ;) And, JMHO, of course.


And I want to vomit every time I read the often assumed "massive consumption of cocaine, etc." for a period of time in every interview.  I spent a fair amount of time with BW during those "lost years" when he was supposedly in bed.  Many people can testify to the fact that the man wasn't "in bed," but was out and about.  I didn't see massive illegal drugs.  In fact, I only saw them once with him and he wasn't especially interested in them.  He was focused on his musical guests.  Those drugs were everywhere in social situations at the time, yet they really weren't huge in Brian's life when I was around. That's why I keep saying, red herring.

Another time we went to an event in Santa Monica.  Brian managed to really pi** me off, so I was leaving him there (knowing someone else would deal with him and get him home) when Dennis called to me and said, "Hey, Debbie, if I take Brian to the boat, will you take care of him?"  He knew damn well I'd say yes, and I did.  No drugs offered, or involved in that situation in any way.  We went to sleep in the aft section of Dennis's boat while he entertained people forward.  So when did all this wild stuff take place?  I seriously want to know. Was Brian depressed, misdiagnosed and in a terrible situation?  Yes.  Was he a babbling drug addict?  Never, in all the years I observed.

With that in mind, taking any of these interviews seriously is tough for me.  They are misinformed from the start.  I hope Brian's book corrects some of this.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on April 03, 2016, 01:11:39 PM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on

Thank you, kiwi surfer, for the link. I enjoyed the article but these sentences made me feel a little...uncomfortable:

"But I have only 20 minutes by telephone. Then just 15, with the promise of a nameless manager listening in to ensure I don't stray too far from the nominated topics..."

It appears some people might not know or understand how the process works when dealing with the press or scheduling phone interviews for artists or celebrities.

Don't know why this would cause discomfort, considering it's been standard practice for decades when interviews of this type are scheduled and done as part of the usual press junkets. The reporters are scheduled and given so much time to interview the artist or individual, and are put in a queue to wait their turn. When it's that reporter's time, the artist's management or the staff running the process goes live with the call (if it's a phone interview like this one), and that reporter gets his allotted time to ask questions, then it's onto the next reporter in line in the phone queue.

Standard practice. Nothing to get alarmed about.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on April 03, 2016, 01:22:10 PM
I just think this guy struggles with sentence structure from time to time.  The interview itself is okay, but he doesn't really know his stuff.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: srv1303 on April 03, 2016, 03:04:58 PM
Weird interview, if you even want to call it that.

I'm grateful that he wants to tour and make people happy with his music. I'm 29 years old and can't believe that I'm lucky enough that Brian is still touring.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on April 03, 2016, 03:06:40 PM
Uh, not sure if this the right thread anymore  :p, here's a shot I nabbed of Blondie C delivering on some strat-action, his shredding hand a-blur:

(http://s27.postimg.org/i275qhl73/BC_PS2016.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/i275qhl73/)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 03, 2016, 03:17:59 PM
Uh, not sure if this the right thread anymore  :p, here's a shot I nabbed of Blondie C delivering on some strat-action, his shredding hand a-blur:

(http://s27.postimg.org/i275qhl73/BC_PS2016.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/i275qhl73/)

That works.  You're so very right.  How did this become about the reviewers - just slobs with an opinion - probably less-informed than many of us here?

Who frikkin' cares?

I was listening to the Desper mixes.  That stunningly talented man I was listening to as a little girl, still discovering his talents as I listened to those mixes, is still out there touring to make people happy.  What an amazing gift to all of us.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on April 03, 2016, 06:50:44 PM
An interview from New Zealand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/78451999/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-battles-on

Thank you, kiwi surfer, for the link. I enjoyed the article but these sentences made me feel a little...uncomfortable:

"But I have only 20 minutes by telephone. Then just 15, with the promise of a nameless manager listening in to ensure I don't stray too far from the nominated topics..."

It appears some people might not know or understand how the process works when dealing with the press or scheduling phone interviews for artists or celebrities.

Don't know why this would cause discomfort, considering it's been standard practice for decades when interviews of this type are scheduled and done as part of the usual press junkets. The reporters are scheduled and given so much time to interview the artist or individual, and are put in a queue to wait their turn. When it's that reporter's time, the artist's management or the staff running the process goes live with the call (if it's a phone interview like this one), and that reporter gets his allotted time to ask questions, then it's onto the next reporter in line in the phone queue.

Standard practice. Nothing to get alarmed about.

Yeah. There's a thread about an interview in which the journalist overheard Bruce saying something rude about the journalist to Bruce's PR person who was listening in. I thought it was established in that thread that the listening in PR person was common.

Regarding the age of journalists, I thought the George Stroumboulopoulos interview was one of the best I've seen. It's best if the interview knows their subject, of course, but I don't think age is important.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 03, 2016, 07:38:58 PM
wow! oh what a night!  Melbourne was great!  will give a detailed opinion later. 
had the best time and really glad to finally meet Al Smith, Ian Parsons, Mozz and his parents and the American couple
now in Freemantle, Joy and Jay ?  sorry if I've misspelled those names.
It was great to talk about everything we love about Brian right down to his mannerisms. 
no surprises in the setlist, but here it is abbreviated:

prayer
heroes
cal girls
dance dance
get around
shut down
deuce
room
surfer girl
don't worry
wake the world
add some
honkin'
darling
one kind
wild hon
funky
sail on

set 2
pet sounds album - walk off
band intro's by Paul
encore:
good vibes
summer long
Rhonda
Barbara A
S. u.s.a
fun fun
l & m


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on April 03, 2016, 08:14:02 PM
no surprises in the setlist, but here it is abbreviated:
Damn man, that's an INCREDIBLE setlist!  8)

I can only hope Add Some Music, Funky Pretty, Honkin' and the like have survived by the time the tour comes to NYC in June.

Glad you had a great time!  :)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 03, 2016, 09:27:47 PM
wow! oh what a night!  Melbourne was great!  will give a detailed opinion later. 
had the best time and really glad to finally meet Al Smith, Ian Parsons, Mozz and his parents and the American couple
now in Freemantle, Joy and Jay ?  sorry if I've misspelled those names.
It was great to talk about everything we love about Brian right down to his mannerisms. 
no surprises in the setlist, but here it is abbreviated:

prayer
heroes
cal girls
dance dance
get around
shut down
deuce
room
surfer girl
don't worry
wake the world
add some
honkin'
darling
one kind
wild hon
funky
sail on

set 2
pet sounds album - walk off
band intro's by Paul
encore:
good vibes
summer long
Rhonda
Barbara A
S. u.s.a
fun fun
l & m


Awesome to see all the deep cuts back!!!  Hope they survive in the setlist for the Japan dates!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on April 03, 2016, 10:00:20 PM
no surprises in the setlist, but here it is abbreviated:
Damn man, that's an INCREDIBLE setlist!  8)

I can only hope Add Some Music, Funky Pretty, Honkin' and the like have survived by the time the tour comes to NYC in June.

Glad you had a great time!  :)



Funky Pretty and Honkin' should be cool, as Funky is part of the Blondie "set" and Honkin' is Al's big chance :) Now, what would be cool; Al took the time to tell everyone that the B-side of both the Add Some Music and Honkin' 45's was Susie Cincinnati - but they wouldn't be playing it last night - I think it would be a great deep cut addition to the set, the band is hot and could nail it easily, sez me.

btw, I really enjoyed the opportunity to see Gary Griffin, who got the "what's his name" honours of the evening, rockin' out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 03, 2016, 10:21:59 PM
haha! I was actually excited myself thinking they were gonna do 'Susie!'
they woulda killed it with this kickbutt band.  haha, yes for those who weren't there,
Brian acknowledged Darian to his right, then looked over and said over the mic to Darian, 'what's that guys name?'
Darian said it's 'Gary Griffin'.  Brian said 'that's Gary Griffin'.  Darian and Gary laughed and were humoured by it.
So very Brian.  A great moment.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 03, 2016, 11:00:04 PM
Actually for anyone from Brian's band who may read this. He mentioned 'my movie' at the Auckland show before singing 'One Kind Of Love'. Griffin should get a shout out then (by someone) as he was in it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 03, 2016, 11:03:26 PM
Do you know who he played in the film?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on April 03, 2016, 11:11:49 PM
he did get a mention in Melbourne.  Gary is the piano player from about 25mins in of 'love n mercy' doing 'I'm waiting for the day'.
(the grey haired dude)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 03, 2016, 11:14:53 PM
I watched the film & Gary in it. I just wondered who of the Wrecking Crew he played.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TonyW on April 03, 2016, 11:17:38 PM
I watched the film & Gary in it. I just wondered who of the Wrecking Crew he played.

Al Deloray


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on April 03, 2016, 11:20:03 PM
Al Deloray
I see. Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 04, 2016, 08:03:02 AM
Glad to see "Add", "Wake", and "Honkin'" back. I think it's impossible to know whether they'll all survive months into the tour. Even if they keep the setlist the same length and don't make any effort to drop "deep cuts", the setlist will probably evolve over the course of 80 dates. Even on the much shorter summer 2015 tour, some changes were integrated, including adding "Surf's Up." "Busy Doin' Nothin'" was cut for the fall dates, etc.

I actually wish they'd vary the setlist even more than they do. Even if they want to X number of "classics", it would be cool to see those rotated a little more.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 04, 2016, 09:29:07 AM

I was listening to the Desper mixes.  That stunningly talented man I was listening to as a little girl, still discovering his talents as I listened to those mixes, is still out there touring to make people happy.  What an amazing gift to all of us.

Ain't that the truth, Debbie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 04, 2016, 01:54:19 PM
I watched the film & Gary in it. I just wondered who of the Wrecking Crew he played.

Al Deloray

Pretty sure its Delory


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 04, 2016, 10:31:47 PM
Glad to see "Add", "Wake", and "Honkin'" back. I think it's impossible to know whether they'll all survive months into the tour. Even if they keep the setlist the same length and don't make any effort to drop "deep cuts", the setlist will probably evolve over the course of 80 dates. Even on the much shorter summer 2015 tour, some changes were integrated, including adding "Surf's Up." "Busy Doin' Nothin'" was cut for the fall dates, etc.

I actually wish they'd vary the setlist even more than they do. Even if they want to X number of "classics", it would be cool to see those rotated a little more.

I won't complain if they play 'Surf's Up...'  that's pretty much the ultimate BB's track for me.

Especially if they replace 'Barbara Ann' with it  >:D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on April 05, 2016, 02:12:52 AM
I'd love to hear them play Surf's Up again. I'd like to hear what Matt would make of that vocal.

I think variation of the setlist is a good idea - especially so from the point of view of fans who are attending more than one concert and there must be many for whom that is true.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on April 05, 2016, 06:25:53 AM
I saw Brian last year do Surf's Up in New Jersey with a little help from Matt and it was excellent, easily one of the highlights of the show.  He also did Busy Doin' Nothin' that night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 05, 2016, 08:01:43 AM
Added the 8/27 Atlantic City show to the top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on April 05, 2016, 08:23:30 AM
Would love to hear the live versions of Honkin, Wake & Funky.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on April 05, 2016, 08:37:02 AM
Here's hopin' they get around to playing Leaving This Town!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on April 05, 2016, 05:21:32 PM
Here's hopin' they get around to playing Leaving This Town!
Now yer talkin!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on April 05, 2016, 08:16:30 PM
Here's hopin' they get around to playing Leaving This Town!
Now yer talkin!
Complete with extended synth solo that lasts the entire concert.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 05, 2016, 09:41:45 PM
Did anybody see the show on the 5th?  Looks like the setlist was the same as the one on the 3rd, for what that's worth. 

And yeah, while I like Funky Pretty, I would be even happier if they did Leaving This Town instead!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bossaroo on April 05, 2016, 10:52:54 PM
I watched the film & Gary in it. I just wondered who of the Wrecking Crew he played.

Al Deloray

Pretty sure its Delory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_De_Lory


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on April 06, 2016, 05:19:02 AM


A little bit of Funky Pretty here:  https://youtu.be/qq1TIZ_G72o?t=4m39s (https://youtu.be/qq1TIZ_G72o?t=4m39s)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on April 06, 2016, 05:44:03 AM


A little bit of Funky Pretty here:  https://youtu.be/qq1TIZ_G72o?t=4m39s (https://youtu.be/qq1TIZ_G72o?t=4m39s)



Thanks!  I am hoping a full version is recorded and posted soon.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on April 06, 2016, 08:54:58 AM


A little bit of Funky Pretty here:  https://youtu.be/qq1TIZ_G72o?t=4m39s (https://youtu.be/qq1TIZ_G72o?t=4m39s)


I like it!   :)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: orange22 on April 06, 2016, 11:33:40 PM
Here's hopin' they get around to playing Leaving This Town!
Now yer talkin!
Complete with extended synth solo that lasts the entire concert.

My need is deep inside.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SinisterSmile on April 07, 2016, 02:58:05 AM
Just did the meet and greet in Perth. God I clammed up hard, but I can cross it off the bucket list.

Blondie is one seriously cool dude.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 07, 2016, 04:14:54 AM
Just did the meet and greet in Perth. God I clammed up hard, but I can cross it off the bucket list.

Blondie is one seriously cool dude.

Can you give us a bit more info please?  I'm still tempted to do it in May.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SinisterSmile on April 07, 2016, 05:10:38 AM
Give you a full rundown when I get home, they're about to play Pet Sounds in a bit.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 07, 2016, 06:10:30 AM
Give you a full rundown when I get home, they're about to play Pet Sounds in a bit.



Thank you, I look forward to hearing all about it.  I didn't realise you were still at the show!  Enjoy.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 07, 2016, 06:24:18 AM
Did anybody see the show on the 5th?  Looks like the setlist was the same as the one on the 3rd, for what that's worth. 

And yeah, while I like Funky Pretty, I would be even happier if they did Leaving This Town instead!
Leaving This Town is one of their absolute epic classics. 

It would be great for them to test it out at a show or two to see how well it is received.   ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SinisterSmile on April 07, 2016, 09:27:50 AM
Give you a full rundown when I get home, they're about to play Pet Sounds in a bit.



Thank you, I look forward to hearing all about it.  I didn't realise you were still at the show!  Enjoy.  ;D

Hey it was a great show. Definitely worth it in my opinion, Blondie really killed it and got a stack of energy going. He acted like a man possessed during 'pet sounds', he was shaking that tambourine like it was some kinda raindance ritual. The band sounded excellent, musically it was very on point and I don't think anyone left disappointed.

I'll tell you my experience with the Meet & Greet. I got the VIP package that included some trinkets, sound check, early merch access and, of course, the meet and greet. Sound check was pretty good, lasted for about 30ish minutes. It's just the band running though a couple of songs and testing the levels. It's a nice candid look into the behind the scenes operations. At one point someone said "Let's try a song with Blondie" and Blondie stepped to the mic and said "I'm gonna do Funky Pretty". Brian just interrupts "NO, do Sail on sailor" that was funny as hell, everyone just kinda shrugged and got on with SOS.

Now, for the meet and greet. They only allowed 2 items to be signed, no more than that. For pictures, you give someone your phone and they'll take a photo with it. No videos for the meet and greet. They had us in a single line and sent us through one individual/group at a time. It was Brian, Al and Blondie sitting at a table, they told us before we went in that they'd be seated and they wouldn't get up for photos. I was near the end of the line and heard Brian yell out "How many more left?" I think he was kinda over it, which is fair enough. I went in and my mind went completely blank! I walked up to Brian and said "Hey Brian" (Like I didn't know what the hell to say) and and he just said "Hey". There was a little bit of silence, and Al says to me "What do you know?" and I just say the first thing that comes into my mind. "Not much". goshdarn. Anyway, leaned down for the photo, had a quick interaction with Blondie and was on my way.

That about covers it. Great night, would recommend, it's pretty damn cool. Lemme know if you have anymore questions, i'm gonna get some sleep i'm mega tired.

Peace.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on April 07, 2016, 09:51:44 AM
That's why I'll probably never go to one of those Meet and Greets. I would spend days preparing some 5-10 second profound statement, but when I actually meet them I'd stammer something like 'ahummahummahumma' and feel like a fool. :-)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 07, 2016, 09:54:33 AM
Give you a full rundown when I get home, they're about to play Pet Sounds in a bit.



Thank you, I look forward to hearing all about it.  I didn't realise you were still at the show!  Enjoy.  ;D

Hey it was a great show. Definitely worth it in my opinion, Blondie really killed it and got a stack of energy going. He acted like a man possessed during 'pet sounds', he was shaking that tambourine like it was some kinda raindance ritual. The band sounded excellent, musically it was very on point and I don't think anyone left disappointed.

I'll tell you my experience with the Meet & Greet. I got the VIP package that included some trinkets, sound check, early merch access and, of course, the meet and greet. Sound check was pretty good, lasted for about 30ish minutes. It's just the band running though a couple of songs and testing the levels. It's a nice candid look into the behind the scenes operations. At one point someone said "Let's try a song with Blondie" and Blondie stepped to the mic and said "I'm gonna do Funky Pretty". Brian just interrupts "NO, do Sail on sailor" that was funny as hell, everyone just kinda shrugged and got on with SOS.

Now, for the meet and greet. They only allowed 2 items to be signed, no more than that. For pictures, you give someone your phone and they'll take a photo with it. No videos for the meet and greet. They had us in a single line and sent us through one individual/group at a time. It was Brian, Al and Blondie sitting at a table, they told us before we went in that they'd be seated and they wouldn't get up for photos. I was near the end of the line and heard Brian yell out "How many more left?" I think he was kinda over it, which is fair enough. I went in and my mind went completely blank! I walked up to Brian and said "Hey Brian" (Like I didn't know what the hell to say) and and he just said "Hey". There was a little bit of silence, and Al says to me "What do you know?" and I just say the first thing that comes into my mind. "Not much". goshdarn. Anyway, leaned down for the photo, had a quick interaction with Blondie and was on my way.

That about covers it. Great night, would recommend, it's pretty damn cool. Lemme know if you have anymore questions, i'm gonna get some sleep i'm mega tired.

Peace.

Sounds brilliant!  Thank you for taking the time to let me know a bit more.  I've met Brian a few times and would love to meet Al and Blondie.  Getting a picture with all three would be a great memento.  I'd be paranoid in case the photo was blurry!  I know what you mean about not knowing what to say.  I've found myself a bit tongue tied too!  Maybe I'd wear my Radiant Radish or Keep It Clean With Al Jardine t-shirt and see if someone passes comment!

Cheers.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 07, 2016, 10:35:58 AM
If setlist.fm is correct, it looks like the same 38-song setlist again for Perth. Not a bad thing of course; I'm glad the one shortened Sydney shows appears to have been an anomaly.

A little more variance from night to night would be cool (ideally without replacing deep cuts with hits), and I would imagine we'll see more of that considering we're not even 10% into this tour.

I'm curious if we'll see "Honkin'" dropped in May in the UK in favor of "Cottonfields."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: William Bowe on April 07, 2016, 12:00:03 PM
Went to the Perth show, and can confirm what appears on setlist.fm. I had an okay time - Matt Jardine does a real nice Don't Worry Baby, and I got to hear a Love You song live for the first time - but it didn't change my opinion that it's time for Brian to hang up the gloves.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: William Bowe on April 07, 2016, 12:11:05 PM
It was nice that Funky Pretty was in the set, but it didn't leave a great impression on people I spoke to who weren't familiar with it. They undersold the vocal round at the end, which is what makes it such an underrated song IMO.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on April 07, 2016, 05:37:18 PM
My need is deep inside.

Deep and wide!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 12, 2016, 09:17:23 AM
Looks like the first Tokyo show didn't have any drastic changes. They did replace "Honkin' Down the Highway" with "Then I Kissed Her."



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 12, 2016, 09:19:52 AM
It would be cool if they changed the setlist up more between shows when they do two night at the same venue. Hopefully maybe "Honkin'" or something new will surface on the second Tokyo show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 12, 2016, 09:21:17 AM
Al posts some interesting pics on Facebook.

Apparently, BRI lawyers finally caught up with Al in Tokyo:

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12718023_1072972849427676_1957396411392144835_n.jpg?oh=95c8b7d2fd2e84de5e887b132f5ef683&oe=57B8BC7A)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on April 12, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
Here's a new article/interview. So, shelving SMiLE was influenced by something Van Dyke Parks said...

 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=22&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwj9yfiexonMAhWMaD4KHbQ0D6o4ChAWCFgwCw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.japantimes.co.jp%2Fculture%2F2016%2F04%2F07%2Fmusic%2Fgenius-brian-wilson-beach-boys-mastermind-short-words-long-legacy%2F&usg=AFQjCNEcINA_62oPcWaRNpx_2drm8Kqujg&sig2=fLQtfIXsmTtvOikp3h8-8A



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 12, 2016, 06:08:59 PM
It would be cool if they changed the setlist up more between shows when they do two night at the same venue. Hopefully maybe "Honkin'" or something new will surface on the second Tokyo show.

Yeah, I really hope they at least exchange 'And I Kissed Her' for Honkin' in Osaka!  I'd really love to hear 'Honkin',' but also they played 'Kissed' in both Japan BB's shows that I saw in 2012, and it didn't seem to get a big response anyway.  In my experience, Japanese Brian fans tend to be really into the deeper cuts. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 12, 2016, 06:18:35 PM
Al posts some interesting pics on Facebook.

Apparently, BRI lawyers finally caught up with Al in Tokyo:

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpl1/v/t1.0-9/12718023_1072972849427676_1957396411392144835_n.jpg?oh=95c8b7d2fd2e84de5e887b132f5ef683&oe=57B8BC7A)

9 hours and nobody has superimposed Mike in place of the dragon yet. :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cyncie on April 12, 2016, 07:29:49 PM
Godzillza only knows what I'd be without you…


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 12, 2016, 07:33:33 PM
Godzillza only knows what I'd be without you…


 :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 12, 2016, 09:25:19 PM
Mothra she needs me...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on April 12, 2016, 11:08:00 PM
Tokyo Night 1 Setlist:
Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coup
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World
Add Some Music
Then I Kissed Her
Darling
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail on Sailor

Intermission

Pet Sounds (with studio session intro)

Encore:
Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfing USA
Fun Fun Fun


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 13, 2016, 06:40:58 AM
Tokyo Night 1 Setlist:
Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coup
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World
Add Some Music
Then I Kissed Her
Darling
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail on Sailor

Intermission

Pet Sounds (with studio session intro)

Encore:
Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfing USA
Fun Fun Fun

Thanks, Woodstock for posting the setlist. 

And, I so hope they add in Sail Away from NPP and Leaving This Town.   

Thanks again.   ;)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 13, 2016, 07:20:48 AM
While anything is possible, especially on a long tour like this, it kinda looks like "NPP" material is unlikely apart from "One Kind of Love." They really only have the 18-song first set to mess around with much. The PS and encore sets seem pretty firmly set.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on April 13, 2016, 07:43:59 AM
While anything is possible, especially on a long tour like this, it kinda looks like "NPP" material is unlikely apart from "One Kind of Love." They really only have the 18-song first set to mess around with much. The PS and encore sets seem pretty firmly set.
A little more of the NPP gems might find their way in for live promotion as well. Not everyone had a chance to see NPP performed.  And with Blondie in the mix, it is another Holland-era gem that might be utilized.  We'll see... Often the Smiley board serves as a "request line."  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on April 13, 2016, 07:53:14 AM
Tokyo Night 2 Setlist:
Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coup
Little Honda
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World
Add Some Music
Honkin Down the Highway (Al)
Darling
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail on Sailor

Intermission

Pet Sounds (with studio session intro)

Encore:
Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfing USA
Fun Fun Fun


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 13, 2016, 08:31:27 AM
Thanks for posting the setlist!

"Little Honda", cool inclusion. As I often say, it wouldn't be my first pick, but I dig when they're able to change it up more from show to show and over the course of a tour. It's also nice to see that they didn't bump something to add the song, so the first set is up to 19 songs instead of the 18 we've usually had so far.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on April 13, 2016, 08:47:29 AM
Ugh...Little Honda? Really? Another "car" type song?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 13, 2016, 08:47:41 AM
I always certainly *hope* requests here make it to the BW setlist. I'm curious how independently of fans the band picked stuff like "Funky Pretty" or "Honkin' Down the Highway."

But I'm digging the setlist. 25 of 39 songs are post-1965. Pretty cool.

If anybody from the Brian operation is reading, try "Goin' On!" We haven't heard it live since 1980, and even then it only lasted for a few months and didn't even make it to the 1980 summer tour! Mertens can wail on the sax solo. Cool group vocals. The BW band could knock that one out of the park and it would integrate the 80s (just barely, technically) a little bit!

And let's hear Al do "Lookin' at Tomorrow."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 13, 2016, 08:52:41 AM
Ugh...Little Honda? Really? Another "car" type song?

While it wouldn't be my first pick, at least it's different. And they didn't cut anything to add it. Plus, has Brian done it live before? I know they did it on C50. But I think he may have rarely or never done that one. Setlist.fm (which, I know, is far from perfect) doesn't show any BW performances prior to last night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on April 13, 2016, 09:01:15 AM
And let's hear Al do "Lookin' at Tomorrow."
:woot


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mendota Heights on April 13, 2016, 09:13:18 AM
How about Time To Get Alone and I Went To Sleep?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on April 13, 2016, 09:32:22 AM
Ugh...Little Honda? Really? Another "car" type song?

It was awesome. One of few in the setlist. That's why it was so awesome.

The energy was intense. It's a real rocker.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on April 13, 2016, 09:35:15 AM
Surprised they didn't do Love & Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on April 13, 2016, 09:38:48 AM
How about Time To Get Alone and I Went To Sleep?
:woot :woot


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on April 13, 2016, 09:40:32 AM
Surprised they didn't do Love & Mercy

Apologies, it ended both nights. Somehow I forgot to include it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on April 13, 2016, 09:52:29 AM
Surprised they didn't do Love & Mercy

Apologies, it ended both nights. Somehow I forgot to include it!

Thanks for the clarification


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on April 13, 2016, 11:08:42 AM
I always certainly *hope* requests here make it to the BW setlist. I'm curious how independently of fans the band picked stuff like "Funky Pretty" or "Honkin' Down the Highway."

But I'm digging the setlist. 25 of 39 songs are post-1965. Pretty cool.

If anybody from the Brian operation is reading, try "Goin' On!" We haven't heard it live since 1980, and even then it only lasted for a few months and didn't even make it to the 1980 summer tour! Mertens can wail on the sax solo. Cool group vocals. The BW band could knock that one out of the park and it would integrate the 80s (just barely, technically) a little bit!

And let's hear Al do "Lookin' at Tomorrow."

Seconded!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 13, 2016, 11:11:40 AM
With around 70 shows left in the tour, I'd have to guess we'll get some things coming and going from the setlist. I'd still have to guess something of Al's might get bumped for "Cotton Fields" in May in the UK.

I'd love to see them bump "Don't Worry Baby" and have Matt sing "The Trader." I know Brian probably has legit reasons to not do much Carl material, but it would be nice for someone to give more Carl material (especially the small amount of stuff he wrote) a public airing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 13, 2016, 02:33:31 PM

I'd love to see them bump "Don't Worry Baby" and have Matt sing "The Trader."


Could not agree less. DWB is as iconic as GVs, Cali Girls and GOKs IMO. Every time I have heard it live since 1978 I have been transported back to the early 60s. Matt nails it this year just like he did when I heard him in the early 90s. Ditch a car song any day to make room for Trader if they must.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 13, 2016, 02:39:54 PM

I'd love to see them bump "Don't Worry Baby" and have Matt sing "The Trader."


Could not agree less. DWB is as iconic as GVs, Cali Girls and GOKs IMO. Every time I have heard it live since 1978 I have been transported back to the early 60s. Matt nails it this year just like he did when I heard him in the early 90s. Ditch a car song any day to make room for Trader if they must.

I was just thinking more practically; they seem to divvy out leads to non-Brian members and not stray too far from that count. I figured they'd have to rotate out a "Matt lead" to make room for one. "Don't Worry Baby" would not be the first song I would ditch. It wouldn't be the last either. It's a great song; but I don't *have* to hear it, especially as it has been a setlist staple on and off over the years both in the touring BBs and Brian's band.

I'd rather hear "The Trader" (or a long list of songs we haven't heard before) than DWB.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on April 13, 2016, 03:34:09 PM
I'd rather hear "The Trader" than "Barbara-Freakin'-Ann".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 13, 2016, 04:33:29 PM
I'd rather hear "The Trader" than "Barbara-Freakin'-Ann".

All those in favor?......

Carried! :thumbsup


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 13, 2016, 07:10:19 PM
I'd go for pretty much any deep cut replacing 'Barbara Ann.'  But since it's kinda iconic and Brian seems to like playing it, I'm just hoping that if they HAVE to replace stuff like 'Honkin' or 'Funky Pretty,' they end up replacing them with other deepish cuts like 'California Saga' or 'Leaving This Town.'  

I'd personally vote for cutting out one or two of the early tunes in favor of one or two more late 60's or 70's tunes, but if they can't do that, switching the deep cuts for other deep cuts would be the way to go.  I think that the greatest hits/deep cuts balance is pretty good in the current set, and I think they could lean a bit towards the other deep cuts without cutting out stuff the casual fan really wants to hear. 

Conversely, I wouldn't want to see them go in the other direction (losing deep cuts for greatest hits that probably aren't that essential for casual fans anyway).  I'm glad that, for example 'Little Honda' didn't replace any of the deep cuts, but rather that they just extended the set by one song. 

For Al lead vocals specifically, personally I'm not so hot on either 'And I Kissed Her' or 'Cotton Fields,' as neither were written by Brian or Al, and both are not exactly adventurous song choices.  Seeing that Cotton Fields was a major hit in certain countries, though, I can understand why it might be included in future sets, but I doubt that any casual fan is going to say 'OMG, they didn't play 'And Then I Kissed Her.'  If they have to throw in a popular cover tune with Al on vocals, maybe 'Come Go With Me' or 'California Dreamin' might be good alternatives? 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RiC on April 13, 2016, 08:45:10 PM
This tour is called Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. I don't understand why Brian should play at all those washed up early 60s hits. The shows are pretty much sold out already, this is promoted as his farewell tour (at least in Europe). He isn't building a career here. If he really wants to play all those hits over his own solo stuff and later Beach Boys songs, I guess it's ok. But personally I just don't understand the reason to sing songs like Little Honda, Barbara Ann, All Summer Long, Dance Dance Dance, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe or even Surfin U.S.A, I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun for that matter. They just don't really fit with Brian. I'm glad that Mike does them, but in my opinion Brian should replace those with songs like Rio Grande, Goin' On, Last Song, Going Home, Lay Down Burden, Summer's Gone, I'll Bet His Nice, Mona etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on April 13, 2016, 09:01:15 PM
This tour is called Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. I don't understand why Brian should play at all those washed up early 60s hits. The shows are pretty much sold out already, this is promoted as his farewell tour (at least in Europe). He isn't building a career here. If he really wants to play all those hits over his own solo stuff and later Beach Boys songs, I guess it's ok. But personally I just don't understand the reason to sing songs like Little Honda, Barbara Ann, All Summer Long, Dance Dance Dance, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe or even Surfin U.S.A, I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun for that matter. They just don't really fit with Brian. I'm glad that Mike does them, but in my opinion Brian should replace those with songs like Rio Grande, Goin' On, Last Song, Going Home, Lay Down Burden, Summer's Gone, I'll Bet His Nice, Mona etc.

I'd say its because Brian likes those songs and they are close to his heart, i'm sure he likes to perform them or he would have never played them again post-1988


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 13, 2016, 09:26:14 PM
This tour is called Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. I don't understand why Brian should play at all those washed up early 60s hits. The shows are pretty much sold out already, this is promoted as his farewell tour (at least in Europe). He isn't building a career here. If he really wants to play all those hits over his own solo stuff and later Beach Boys songs, I guess it's ok. But personally I just don't understand the reason to sing songs like Little Honda, Barbara Ann, All Summer Long, Dance Dance Dance, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe or even Surfin U.S.A, I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun for that matter. They just don't really fit with Brian. I'm glad that Mike does them, but in my opinion Brian should replace those with songs like Rio Grande, Goin' On, Last Song, Going Home, Lay Down Burden, Summer's Gone, I'll Bet His Nice, Mona etc.

I'd say its because Brian likes those songs and they are close to his heart, i'm sure he likes to perform them or he would have never played them again post-1988

I think that he's pretty proud of songs like All Summer Long, Surfin' USA, Fun Fun Fun, and I Get Around, and those are also songs that the casual fans most expect to hear.  Stuff like Shut Down or Little Honda though, I suspect they mean less to him and also to even casual fans.  If you give the casual fans the BIG early hits, you can safely get away with not doing the more minor ones. 

The same goes for Mike and Bruce--yeah, they need to do the big hits, but when I look at BB setlists from '64 or '65, they weren't doing stuff like '409' or 'Surfin' Safari,' so it's a bit hard for me to grasp how those songs have become essential more than 50 years later. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GhostyTMRS on April 13, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
This tour is called Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. I don't understand why Brian should play at all those washed up early 60s hits. The shows are pretty much sold out already, this is promoted as his farewell tour (at least in Europe). He isn't building a career here. If he really wants to play all those hits over his own solo stuff and later Beach Boys songs, I guess it's ok. But personally I just don't understand the reason to sing songs like Little Honda, Barbara Ann, All Summer Long, Dance Dance Dance, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe or even Surfin U.S.A, I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun for that matter. They just don't really fit with Brian. I'm glad that Mike does them, but in my opinion Brian should replace those with songs like Rio Grande, Goin' On, Last Song, Going Home, Lay Down Burden, Summer's Gone, I'll Bet His Nice, Mona etc.

I can understand a desire to see Brian perform more lesser known material, but realistically the audience expects to hear those songs. I think he always throws some great "oh wow" songs in for the die-hards.
They're hardly washed-up hits though. They're the gold standard of Rock/Pop. The best records made by anyone ever IMO.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on April 13, 2016, 10:51:30 PM
This tour is called Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. I don't understand why Brian should play at all those washed up early 60s hits. The shows are pretty much sold out already, this is promoted as his farewell tour (at least in Europe). He isn't building a career here. If he really wants to play all those hits over his own solo stuff and later Beach Boys songs, I guess it's ok. But personally I just don't understand the reason to sing songs like Little Honda, Barbara Ann, All Summer Long, Dance Dance Dance, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe or even Surfin U.S.A, I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun for that matter. They just don't really fit with Brian. I'm glad that Mike does them, but in my opinion Brian should replace those with songs like Rio Grande, Goin' On, Last Song, Going Home, Lay Down Burden, Summer's Gone, I'll Bet His Nice, Mona etc.

The set is amazing. Have you seen him play before? Washed up to you but the band plays each track like it's their first tour doing it. It's so full of energy.

Funky pretty, wild honey, wake the world, sail on sailor, Honkin Down the Highway....all tracks still in the set. The car songs are like two minutes long each?

And they're playing pet sounds in full. I'm not sure how you could ask for more than than hearing the best album ever made.

I think you should see a show :p


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on April 13, 2016, 10:52:42 PM
The main feeling I get from hearing the hits is a new appreciation for just now groundbreaking it was at the time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on April 14, 2016, 03:36:38 AM
I don't consider the music from the first part of the 60s 'washed-up' but I must admit I'd be happy to hear more music from 66-73, especially anything from the SMiLE and Friends albums,  Til I Die,  something from Sunflower, Holland, Love You and some of Brian's solo material, like Melt Away, Rio Grande.

I can understand why on what may be a final tour, Brian is covering some of the greatest hits but for me greatest music is more important.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 14, 2016, 07:32:47 AM
I'd love to see Brian do an "all-rarities" set, but why would anyone expect that? He's been touring for 17 years and has always done some of those pre-1966 hits.

Why does he do them? Partly because promoters probably still expect at least *some* of the well-known BB hits.

Also worth keeping in mind is that unlike the other touring BBs, Brian didn't spent 30-40 years touring all year singing those songs. Brian has probably sang "Shut Down" in concert fewer times than *I've* listened to the touring BBs perform the song.

And yeah, he wrote them and I'm cool with him "reclaiming" them a bit in concert, especially in cases where Mike (no dig on him, seriously) has been doing these Brian songs that he (Mike) didn't have a hand in co-writing. I think it's cool for Brian to reclaim in a live setting "In My Room", "Surfer Girl", "Don't Worry Baby", "Shut Down", "Little Deuce Coupe", "God Only Knows", and so on; all songs Brian wrote on his own or with other collaborators, and songs that people have been watching Brian-less bands more times than not do in concert for decades.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on April 14, 2016, 11:04:23 AM
This tour is called Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. I don't understand why Brian should play at all those washed up early 60s hits. The shows are pretty much sold out already, this is promoted as his farewell tour (at least in Europe). He isn't building a career here. If he really wants to play all those hits over his own solo stuff and later Beach Boys songs, I guess it's ok. But personally I just don't understand the reason to sing songs like Little Honda, Barbara Ann, All Summer Long, Dance Dance Dance, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe or even Surfin U.S.A, I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun for that matter. They just don't really fit with Brian. I'm glad that Mike does them, but in my opinion Brian should replace those with songs like Rio Grande, Goin' On, Last Song, Going Home, Lay Down Burden, Summer's Gone, I'll Bet His Nice, Mona etc.

The set is amazing. Have you seen him play before? Washed up to you but the band plays each track like it's their first tour doing it. It's so full of energy.

Funky pretty, wild honey, wake the world, sail on sailor, Honkin Down the Highway....all tracks still in the set. The car songs are like two minutes long each?

And they're playing pet sounds in full. I'm not sure how you could ask for more than than hearing the best album ever made.

I think you should see a show :p

And we could just pay attention to what Brian has said about this tour.  He's doing it because it makes people happy and brings them love.  He knows all these songs throughout the years have made people happy in a variety of ways.

I'm a lover of the deep cuts as well, having been around for all these years, but I'm pretty clear that I'm not going to be the only person in the audience.  Brian's looking to make the crowd happy.  Good for him.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 14, 2016, 03:35:33 PM
If you check out Brian's Facebook page, his pic with the chairman of Honda and the presentation of a literal "little Honda" model may help to explain the addition of "Little Honda" to the setlist.

Quick, someone get "Trader Joes" to present Brian with something, and maybe they'll add "The Trader."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on April 14, 2016, 03:49:36 PM
A print of the Mona Lisa for "Mona," maybe?

Some sort of diorama of the heavens may get us "Solar System."

A DVD set of the show for "Johnny Carson?"

A soggy cigarette butt for "Everybody Wants to Live!?"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 14, 2016, 07:08:51 PM
I'd love to see Brian do an "all-rarities" set, but why would anyone expect that? He's been touring for 17 years and has always done some of those pre-1966 hits.

Why does he do them? Partly because promoters probably still expect at least *some* of the well-known BB hits.

Also worth keeping in mind is that unlike the other touring BBs, Brian didn't spent 30-40 years touring all year singing those songs. Brian has probably sang "Shut Down" in concert fewer times than *I've* listened to the touring BBs perform the song.

And yeah, he wrote them and I'm cool with him "reclaiming" them a bit in concert, especially in cases where Mike (no dig on him, seriously) has been doing these Brian songs that he (Mike) didn't have a hand in co-writing. I think it's cool for Brian to reclaim in a live setting "In My Room", "Surfer Girl", "Don't Worry Baby", "Shut Down", "Little Deuce Coupe", "God Only Knows", and so on; all songs Brian wrote on his own or with other collaborators, and songs that people have been watching Brian-less bands more times than not do in concert for decades.

All good points.  I just feel that by doing essential early stuff like 'Surfin' USA,' 'Surfer Girl' 'In My Room' 'Fun Fun Fun' 'I Get Around' 'California Girls' 'All Summer Long' and 'Help Me Rhonda,' he's already doing a GREAT job of covering the early stuff.  Not saying that that's ALL the early stuff he should do, but considering the awesome quality of the '67 through '73 period stuff (not to mention 'Love You'), I don't think there is a need to to more early stuff at the expensive of some of the band's other artistic high points. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wirestone on April 14, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
If Brian wanted to do later stuff, that's what the band would play.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on April 14, 2016, 10:09:22 PM
The same goes for Mike and Bruce--yeah, they need to do the big hits, but when I look at BB setlists from '64 or '65, they weren't doing stuff like '409' or 'Surfin' Safari,' so it's a bit hard for me to grasp how those songs have become essential more than 50 years later. 

In a nutshell?  "Endless Summer" and "Spirit Of America".  :-)

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RiC on April 15, 2016, 02:27:51 AM
This tour is called Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary tour. I don't understand why Brian should play at all those washed up early 60s hits. The shows are pretty much sold out already, this is promoted as his farewell tour (at least in Europe). He isn't building a career here. If he really wants to play all those hits over his own solo stuff and later Beach Boys songs, I guess it's ok. But personally I just don't understand the reason to sing songs like Little Honda, Barbara Ann, All Summer Long, Dance Dance Dance, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe or even Surfin U.S.A, I Get Around and Fun Fun Fun for that matter. They just don't really fit with Brian. I'm glad that Mike does them, but in my opinion Brian should replace those with songs like Rio Grande, Goin' On, Last Song, Going Home, Lay Down Burden, Summer's Gone, I'll Bet His Nice, Mona etc.

The set is amazing. Have you seen him play before? Washed up to you but the band plays each track like it's their first tour doing it. It's so full of energy.

Funky pretty, wild honey, wake the world, sail on sailor, Honkin Down the Highway....all tracks still in the set. The car songs are like two minutes long each?

And they're playing pet sounds in full. I'm not sure how you could ask for more than than hearing the best album ever made.

I think you should see a show :p
I am going to see two concerts in the UK. I'm just afraid that instead of adding deep cuts, they decide to cut down those that you mentioned. For example, Wake The World has always been one of my favorites. Honkin' is great, but for me it's maybe my least favorite from Love You. I know you can't please everyone, but I'm just a little bit sad that there's a huge amount of AMAZING songs that have never been played even once live. I know the band plays great and songs like Barbara Ann and Shut Down rock and I'm gonna enjoy it, but those songs have been played a million times already. Even I've heard them 3 times in concert and that's enough for me.

I have a feeling that Brian likes to do those kind of songs more than the ones that weren't hits because he's afraid that the audience wouldn't like them. I just wish that there was a way to tell him that there's a lot of fans who appreciate Love You and Sunflower to death. And those people are the ones that go see him in 2016, even fly to other countries just to see and hear him. I'm extremely glad that he does Pet Sounds in full, but even that has already been done many times. Anyway, I don't want to sound like I'm only complaining. I just hope there was a bit more variation in the setlists, and no more added "early hits".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 15, 2016, 04:30:53 AM
Wow, great show so far in Osaka. 20 songs in the first set.
Nothing new, but they are playing every song that has appeared in the first set in this tour. Brian is animated and happy, and singing great.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 15, 2016, 07:37:13 AM
If Brian wanted to do later stuff, that's what the band would play.

True. I think he might be open to suggestions from others on occasion (the same way, say, McCartney's guys occasionally throw a song title out there; though I'm still waiting for their suggestion of "The Back Seat of My Car".....), but I'm not suggesting some massive machine is blocking Brian from doing songs he wants to do. Indeed, after an interview where someone in the band mentioned Brian isn't into the verbose "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'", they both evaporated from the setlist.

To the degree there are criticisms of the setlist, I'm happy to lay them at Brian's feet. I think his setlist is fine; it could be far worse. There are a lot of deep cuts within that 18-song first set, which as I've said is the only place in the current setlist where there's any room to wiggle (the PS set is obviously set, and the encore is pretty much set it stone too, apart from perhaps moving "All Summer Long" in or out on occasion). I certainly think there's a little more room to maneuver, perhaps dropping a car song and pulling a new rarity out. But that's a pretty tiny quibble.

It has been far worse. I went to the 2001 Paul Simon shows where Brian played for an hour, tops, and maybe not even that long. Plus, I saw one of the early 2001 shows before he added a few additional rarities for the first time. 

But there's no way Brian's going to do a full tour where he completely ignores "California Girls", "I Get Around", etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on April 15, 2016, 08:07:12 AM
Osaka (3rd and final Japan show) Setlist:
Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains (Brian)
California Girls (Brian)
Dance Dance Dance (Brian)
I Get Around (Brian)
Shut Down (Al)
Little Deuce Coup (Al)
Honkin Down the Highway (Al)
Little Honda (Brian)
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby (Matt)
Wake the World (Al)
Add Some Music (Brian)
Then I Kissed Her (Al)
Darling (Darian)
One Kind of Love (Brian)
Wild Honey (Blondie)
Funky Pretty (Blondie)
Sail on Sailor (Blondie)

Intermission

Pet Sounds (with studio session intro)

Encore:
Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfing USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 15, 2016, 08:08:32 AM
I like it! We're up to 40 songs!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 15, 2016, 08:48:55 AM
If Brian wanted to do later stuff, that's what the band would play.

True. I think he might be open to suggestions from others on occasion (the same way, say, McCartney's guys occasionally throw a song title out there; though I'm still waiting for their suggestion of "The Back Seat of My Car".....), but I'm not suggesting some massive machine is blocking Brian from doing songs he wants to do. Indeed, after an interview where someone in the band mentioned Brian isn't into the verbose "Surf's Up" and "Busy Doin' Nothin'", they both evaporated from the setlist.

To the degree there are criticisms of the setlist, I'm happy to lay them at Brian's feet. I think his setlist is fine; it could be far worse. There are a lot of deep cuts within that 18-song first set, which as I've said is the only place in the current setlist where there's any room to wiggle (the PS set is obviously set, and the encore is pretty much set it stone too, apart from perhaps moving "All Summer Long" in or out on occasion). I certainly think there's a little more room to maneuver, perhaps dropping a car song and pulling a new rarity out. But that's a pretty tiny quibble.

It has been far worse. I went to the 2001 Paul Simon shows where Brian played for an hour, tops, and maybe not even that long. Plus, I saw one of the early 2001 shows before he added a few additional rarities for the first time. 

But there's no way Brian's going to do a full tour where he completely ignores "California Girls", "I Get Around", etc.

I don't think he SHOULD ignore those songs, or Fun Fun Fun, Surfin' USA, etc.  Those are definitely classics.  And you're right that he is doing damn great sets and including a nice selection of deep cuts.  I think the comments here are mostly directed at the more minor early songs (say, 'Shut Down' or 'Then I Kissed Her')--just that if they have to bump something, they should consider bumping those rather than the '67-'77 albums, which tend to get less love anyway.  But anyway you look at it, we're still getting and embarrassment of riches. 

And I DO like the fact that the current tour seems to be going more in the direction of making the sets longer, rather than dropping stuff.  Maybe this will turn out  to be like the 2012 tour, where they just keep adding stuff and the setlists tend to get longer and longer! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Kylo Ren on April 16, 2016, 06:16:33 PM
My 2’.

Brian has 5 original solo albums (6 if you include Orange Crate), not including SMiLE, Disney, Gershwin etc.

I kinda expected a "Brian Wilson" show to have more than two solo tracks.

Now, if the current tour was called "The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson presents..." then the current set list would make more sense.

THAT said, I'm sure 90% of the audience at the show I attended wouldn't have recognized "Lay down burden" or anything from NPP.   


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 16, 2016, 07:23:12 PM
My 2’.

Brian has 5 original solo albums (6 if you include Orange Crate), not including SMiLE, Disney, Gershwin etc.

I kinda expected a "Brian Wilson" show to have more than two solo tracks.

Now, if the current tour was called "The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson presents..." then the current set list would make more sense.

THAT said, I'm sure 90% of the audience at the show I attended wouldn't have recognized "Lay down burden" or anything from NPP.   

I've wondered that too!  I do consider SMiLe a legit Brian solo album, as it came out before the Smile Sessions did, but considering the quality of SOME of his solo work, it's sad that it doesn't get represented more.  I don't know how long he'll keep touring, but it might be interesting if he were to try a half-and-half tour. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 16, 2016, 07:26:15 PM
Anyway, I just wanted to mention something:  with the exchange rates, I think the tix for the Osaka concert cost me about 90 bucks.  The seats weren't great, but I did have the option to pay not a whole lot more for better seats.  And for that, we got 40 songs and (I think) nearly 2.5 hours of music.  That's about $2.25 per song--an absolutely fantastic bargain for seeing one of the greatest pop composers of all time playing with a large band and two other significant ex-BB's.  Just a wonderful deal for the fans.  I'm really grateful to Brian, Al, Blondie and the band for this! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Empire Of Love on April 16, 2016, 10:13:10 PM
Anyway, I just wanted to mention something:  with the exchange rates, I think the tix for the Osaka concert cost me about 90 bucks.  The seats weren't great, but I did have the option to pay not a whole lot more for better seats.  And for that, we got 40 songs and (I think) nearly 2.5 hours of music.  That's about $2.25 per song--an absolutely fantastic bargain for seeing one of the greatest pop composers of all time playing with a large band and two other significant ex-BB's.  Just a wonderful deal for the fans.  I'm really grateful to Brian, Al, Blondie and the band for this! 

Who were the other two ex-Beach Boys that played beside Blondie?  Was Ricky performing?  If so, who else?

EoL


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 16, 2016, 10:30:27 PM
Anyway, I just wanted to mention something:  with the exchange rates, I think the tix for the Osaka concert cost me about 90 bucks.  The seats weren't great, but I did have the option to pay not a whole lot more for better seats.  And for that, we got 40 songs and (I think) nearly 2.5 hours of music.  That's about $2.25 per song--an absolutely fantastic bargain for seeing one of the greatest pop composers of all time playing with a large band and two other significant ex-BB's.  Just a wonderful deal for the fans.  I'm really grateful to Brian, Al, Blondie and the band for this! 

Who were the other two ex-Beach Boys that played beside Blondie?  Was Ricky performing?  If so, who else?

EoL

By 'two other significant ex-BB's' I mean 'Al and Blondie.'  It WOULD have been extremely awesome if, say, Ricky and David were there, but getting Brian, Al and Blondie plus Brian's band for that price and setlist is already pretty awesome! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Kylo Ren on April 17, 2016, 02:44:19 AM
Anyway, I just wanted to mention something:  with the exchange rates, I think the tix for the Osaka concert cost me about 90 bucks.  The seats weren't great, but I did have the option to pay not a whole lot more for better seats.  And for that, we got 40 songs and (I think) nearly 2.5 hours of music.  That's about $2.25 per song--an absolutely fantastic bargain for seeing one of the greatest pop composers of all time playing with a large band and two other significant ex-BB's.  Just a wonderful deal for the fans.  I'm really grateful to Brian, Al, Blondie and the band for this! 

Cool. I had tickets to see Brian in Japan literally 2 weeks before 9/11/01... the tour was cancelled, natch.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Empire Of Love on April 17, 2016, 05:14:50 AM
Anyway, I just wanted to mention something:  with the exchange rates, I think the tix for the Osaka concert cost me about 90 bucks.  The seats weren't great, but I did have the option to pay not a whole lot more for better seats.  And for that, we got 40 songs and (I think) nearly 2.5 hours of music.  That's about $2.25 per song--an absolutely fantastic bargain for seeing one of the greatest pop composers of all time playing with a large band and two other significant ex-BB's.  Just a wonderful deal for the fans.  I'm really grateful to Brian, Al, Blondie and the band for this! 

Who were the other two ex-Beach Boys that played beside Blondie?  Was Ricky performing?  If so, who else?

EoL

By 'two other significant ex-BB's' I mean 'Al and Blondie.'  It WOULD have been extremely awesome if, say, Ricky and David were there, but getting Brian, Al and Blondie plus Brian's band for that price and setlist is already pretty awesome! 

Ah, thanks for clarifying.  You do realize Brian and Al are still Beach Boys, right?  Only Blondie is an ex-Beach Boy.

EoL


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on April 17, 2016, 12:37:55 PM
I'm gonna be really disappointed if I get then I kissed her instead of honkin. Would love to see a few more "deep cuts" added for the UK tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 17, 2016, 09:25:48 PM
Anyway, I just wanted to mention something:  with the exchange rates, I think the tix for the Osaka concert cost me about 90 bucks.  The seats weren't great, but I did have the option to pay not a whole lot more for better seats.  And for that, we got 40 songs and (I think) nearly 2.5 hours of music.  That's about $2.25 per song--an absolutely fantastic bargain for seeing one of the greatest pop composers of all time playing with a large band and two other significant ex-BB's.  Just a wonderful deal for the fans.  I'm really grateful to Brian, Al, Blondie and the band for this! 

Who were the other two ex-Beach Boys that played beside Blondie?  Was Ricky performing?  If so, who else?

EoL

By 'two other significant ex-BB's' I mean 'Al and Blondie.'  It WOULD have been extremely awesome if, say, Ricky and David were there, but getting Brian, Al and Blondie plus Brian's band for that price and setlist is already pretty awesome! 

Ah, thanks for clarifying.  You do realize Brian and Al are still Beach Boys, right?  Only Blondie is an ex-Beach Boy.

EoL

Technically, of course you're right.  I was thinking in terms of 'people who have played with the BB's as official members,' which applies to all three. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 17, 2016, 11:02:03 PM
OK, here's my review of the Osaka show.

First, a little background:  I've in my late 40's, been a BB's fan since elementary school, have always owned some albums and been interested in their convoluted story, but never got to see them till the 2012 reunion tour, when I saw the Osaka and Nagoya shows here in Japan.  Those were brilliant, though a bit short compared to most of the rest of the tour (35 and 38 songs respectively, as if that's 'short' compared to most bands).  I took my then 3 year old daughter Hisui to the Nagoya show, and she loved it and told me she wanted to see the BB's again.  That was kinda bittersweet, since even then I knew it was unlikely that she'd ever have the chance, even before the reunion predictably ended up not continuing.  So when I heard Brian was touring Pet Sounds with Al, Blondie and Matt along, I was determined not only to go myself but also to take her too.  

It was in the Orix theater, maybe 2500 capacity, and sold out.  Right away, I noticed that the audience seemed a bit different from that of the 2012 tour...  Brian attracts the hardcores here in Japan.  I could tell by the response to some of the more obscure songs, and other things (Hisui asks 'where Al?' and the lady next to us point him out before I can).  Quiet and attentive during the quiet stuff, but howling Brian's name in-between songs.  Fantastic, devoted audience, and they got repaid in spades.  

The first set of greatest hits and deep cuts was blindingly great--so good that it could have been an awesome (if somewhat short) concert by itself.  They resolved the hits/deep cuts tension that we've been discussing on this board by simply playing everything that they've tried out on the tour so far--so we got Honkin' AND Then I Kissed Her AND Little Honda AND Wake The World AND Darlin.'  20 songs in all, the longest first set so far on this tour.  It was longer than the 2012 Japanese shows.  Man, were we lucky!

The sound was fantastic from the start--'Our Prayer' and 'Heroes and Villains' were crystal clear, and you could hear every nuance. Brian also sounded spot-on vocally. If anything, they sounded a bit too perfect (I remember the 2012 versions of 'Heroes' being more raucous), but really strong for opening songs, which typically tend to have a lot more technical and vocal glitches.  It was also good to hear some unusual parts like 'Cantina' and 'Bicycle Rider' included.  As Woodstock noted in his review, Brian seemed a bit introspective in the first couple of songs, but the massive response after 'Heroes' made him brighten up massively--he seemed to realize that he had the audience in the palm of his hand.  

The rest of the set seemed to get looser and louder as it went along, save for the ballads. Al got a number of leads and sounded just as good as he had in 2012. The only exception was 'Shut Down' which I felt didn't quite fit his range, but by 'Little Deuce Coupe,' he was spot on.  'Honkin' was fun with the Al leads alternating with Brian featuring heavily on the chorus, 'Wake The World' was really beautiful and intricate, and while I don't think that 'And I Kissed Her' is strictly necessary, his voice sounded so good on it.  Brian introduced it  by saying something like 'Al, you're going to do an bonus song of yours, right?' or something to that effect, which made me think that they hadn't originally played to play so many songs but had decided to pad the set out.    

It was also interesting to hear Brian's doing Mike's leads on songs like 'CA Girls,' 'I Get Around' and 'Dance Dance Dance.'  They actually fit his current range pretty well.  All of that stuff came across well, though I enjoyed 'Dance Dance Dance' the best.  It seemed to be played pretty fast, and it's such an exuberant song.  I had missed it in the 2012 Japan tour,, so it was good to hear it too.

But the ballads were, if anything, even better.  'In My Room' had a very BB's sound due to Brian, Al and Matt dominating the vocal stack, and brought tears to my eyes (they missed this one in 2012 too, and it's always meant a lot to me).  I was surprised that Brian didn't share 'Add Your Music' with Al, but even more surprised that he sang all of the various member's parts so well by himself.  And I think that 'One Kind of Love' was his best vocal performance of the night--as Woodstock mentioned in his Osaka review, he really knocked it out of the park.  I was amazed!  And as everyone else has noted, Matt owned 'Don't Worry Baby.'  

Darian also ruled on 'Darlin'--so well that I'm surprised they don't have him doing more Carl leads. That was another song that moved me emotionally.  They DID play it in the 2012 Nagoya show and knocked me out then, but it's always meant a lot to me, and I couldn't help having it bring me to tears again.  

Hisui was having a good time--she likes 'Heroes' 'Honkin' 'Little Deuce Coupe' and 'Dance Dance Dance' especially, so those songs went over well with her, she liked the 'faster, faster, it's all right!' part of 'Little Honda,' and I explained that 'One Kind of Love' is about Melinda, which got her listening carefully, as the 'Love and Mercy' movie made a big impression on her.  The only disadvantage of the long first set is that she got a bit impatient 'When's Blondie coming out? When's Blondie coming out?'  I told her 'soon' a few times, but after they played  'One Kind of Love,' I confidently predicted that he would be out next, because they had literally run out of anything else to play, unless they had decided to introduce something they hadn't played before.  

Based on previous reviews, I was expecting to be blown away by Blondie, and he lived up to expectations really well.  His vocals were extremely strong, but I wasn't completely knocked out for some reason, but it was still great to hear him powering through everything, especially of course his original part on 'Sail On Sailor.'  It was great to hear both 'Wild Honey' and 'Funky Pretty' which of course weren't featured at all on the 2012 tour, though I was a bit surprised that they didn't include more of the vocal interaction on 'Funky Pretty.'

But what really stood out was Blondie's showmanship, especially walking all around the stage while shredding out leads--very fun to watch, especially with a kid in tow.  It really ended the set with a bang.  

During the intermission, I noted to Hisui that we had gotten a longer set than any of the other shows so far, and we were really enjoying feeling the love together.

'Pet Sounds' was a very different experience.  Musically, it was stunning--in fact, I've never enjoyed the instrumentals more, especially the title song.  The band really brought this stuff to life.  I loved how they opened it, with the old tapes of Brian directing the band working on 'Wouldn't It Be Nice.'  The audience was actually fooled the first time it started, with the old recorded music, which made it all the more exciting when they started it for real.  It's a great trick!

Vocally, it was a bit more mixed.  Matt sounded stellar great on 'Wouldn't It Be Nice,' but I couldn't help feeling that Al actually delivers the song more convincingly.  Having said that, Matt took over the high parts for Brian perfectly on all the other songs.  Al sounded great as usual, and I thought the vocal trade-offs on 'I Know There's An Answer' were perfect, with Brian doing Mike, Matt doing Brian, and Al doing Al.  Ditto for 'Sloop John B:  I thought that Brian did his old vocal parts very nicely in 2012, but having Al do Brian's parts and Brian doing Mike's parts worked just as well.  

But during the slower songs on Side One, Brian's vocal performance was suddenly much creakier than they had been during the first set.  'I'm Waiting For the Day' was probably the best of Brian's vocal parts on the first side, and the others had their moments, but he had sounded better during the first set. It might have been doing 3 shows in 4 nights, or that the first set was so long, or maybe it's just that this stuff has become tougher for him to sing (perhaps why this tour will be the last full Pet Sounds performances).  

But he did his best, and things generally improved the second side.  I thought he did especially with with the two most emotionally important songs:  'God Only Knows' and 'Caroline No,' especially the latter.  'Caroline' is another song I've loved since childhood, and it was the 3rd song of the night that really brought me to tears. I also liked the way he sings 'God Only Knows'--clearly, he knows how to do the song within his current range, and by changing the melody slightly, doing things like kind of whispering the falsetto on 'what,' he can manage it well without trying to do it exactly like Carl did it.  Another one of my favorites 'I Just Wasn't Made For These Times' had a few shaky parts at first, but he's great on the 'Sometimes I feel very sad' lines--just spot-on.  

Hisui did seem to lose attention a bit during this more complex stuff, though 'Sloop John B' and all of the great musical interaction during the instrumentals and instrumental sections of the vocal songs seemed to get her attention--Blondie's weird tambourine dances on the title track especially!

Overall, it was a beautiful, moving performance, and the musical performance will forever enhance my experience of listening to the album.  Vocally, it was incredibly moving at best, and a little bittersweet at worst, because I do suspect that some of this material is becoming too hard for Brian to do.  

For the final set, the band introductions were great fun.  The audience gave everybody massive respect, but Blondie turned it up a notch, Al got a deafening response, and Brian was greeted like a conquering hero.  

The encores were loud, raucous, great fun, but also with great sound.  Brian's vocal parts were pretty much spot-on for 'Good Vibrations' and for the rest of the set, which again makes me suspect that the Pet Sounds stuff is harder for him to sing.  Al predictably nailed 'Help Me Rhonda,' which became a massive harmony-fest for the whole band and audience, and Blondie added a lot to the guitar jams on 'Surfin' USA' and 'Fun Fun Fun.' Blondie was really being a nut during 'Barbara Ann'--he appeared to be giving Brian a backrub or something (maybe a backrub with his tambourine?  The keyboard solo and sax solos were a lot of fun for those songs too.  Hisui enjoyed it a lot; we recently saw 'American Graffitti,' which helped put some of this stuff in context, especially 'All Summer Long,' (and 'Little Deuce Coupe' in the earlier set). And as before, you got lots of Brian, Al and Matt, plus a fair amount of Blondie in the vocal stack, so it really seemed like seeing the BB's. 

'Fun Fun Fun' ended in the same trash-can style as it had with the 2012 tour...  this of course would have been a great closer by itself, but Brian has his own way of ending the set.  I have to say, the two Brian solo songs were also two of the best songs of the night.  I can still remember being in my late teens, working on a strawberry farm in rural Washington State in summer 1988, and hearing 'Love and Mercy' on the radio for the first time. I knew Brian's story then, and it just made me melt, as it did now.  Brian's singing on 'Love and Mercy' was so good in this show, too--it really sounds unrehearsed, like he feels the song and sings it exactly how he's feeling.  Massively moving.  I cried.  

And when it was over, the audience just howled.  The band bowed, the audience bowed, the band bowed more and the audience bowed more.  I think everyone knew it was all over, but just wanted to show as much love as possible.  

Walking back to the subway, Hisui and me talked a bit about how it was too bad that Brian and Mike just can't get along, but that it's nice that they are both out there doing the Beach Boys thing anyway.  This was kind of a good wrap-up to our wistful conversation 3.5 years ago--this may well really be the last time, but what a nice way to go out.  

By the way, this thread has my review of the Nagoya concert, back in 2012:  

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14107.0.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Summer_Days on April 17, 2016, 11:24:13 PM
Great concert review, mabewa, sounded like a cool show.

I (hopefully) will be seeing Brian in Denver in October at the Paramount. If I have to give my left testicle to go see him, so be it. I hate how I've missed out these past years, particularly C50. And especially because Brian, Al, Blondie and the band will be playing my favorite album, Pet Sounds. Gotta go see him no matter what.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on April 18, 2016, 11:08:42 PM
Several sound check clips on YouTube which I am enjoying just to see what goes on behind the scenes.

About 2.15 they play 'Do It Again'. Paul says "we are needing to do that coming up pretty soon" so I guess that might be added at some point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PK7VIkK6A-8




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: rasmus skotte on April 19, 2016, 04:17:46 AM
Given the latest development here, perhaps we need some positivity. Like a Tribute renga palindrome poem to The Pet Sounds *50* world tour, to Brian's super-band(s) and to the Album itself - all made up by Renga-WagneR (jk)!
[Band-lineup: BRAGG, SAHANAJA, BENNETT, BOB Lizik, Probyn GREGORY, ALAN, Blondie CHAPLIN (no more 'embargo' for him, NOT in this band!), NI(c)K Walusco & Mike D'AMICO. However, there will be no guest appearences by RI(c)K* Fataar (sadly!), Toni TENILLE, Chris REA, (multi-Instrumentalist:) LU, or Blondie's former band-'mate' RON Wood. And NO sound-P.A. from Hillary CLINTON! FURTHERMORE: No Songs from the catalog of Roy Rogers, Steely Dan'-LP: 'Aja'. But maybe from California SAGA!! (the first lines in both poems could (in hindsite) be seen as comments to sa(i)d state of affairs(?):]

                            '
       ->->"Doc, I'm admin ..." "I'm
     red NELSON BRAGG! Unstrap a >
               gas, an airbag, a
        SAHANAJA (no 'Rea' ; 'LU'!).
BENNETT ... RI'K*, Skin-BOB, TENNIL'?"
                           ²
       "(P.A.: H. Clinton?)  ... SO >
         grab MEN a lα Roy Roger*!
         (= GREGORY or ALAN(!))
    Embargos? NOT/NIL, CHAPLIN!!
               Net - BOB; NI'K!
                          ³
            Skirt (ten nebulae)?
        Ron, 'Aja'?  NAH!"   A 'SAGA',
          BRIAN?    "A 'Saga'-PART!
   (snug-garb). NO slender minim.,
               D'AMICO'd!!"<-<-


            ->ONE-NIL? --- OR a con?

Dogs, 'PET*S', 'SLOOP's, spools, steps, 'GOD'? ...

            "No - CAROLINE, NO!!"<-


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: JK on April 19, 2016, 04:58:13 AM
Given the latest development here, perhaps we need some positivity. Like a Tribute renga palindrome poem to The Pet Sounds *50* world tour, to Brian's super-band(s) and to the Album itself - all made up by Renga-WagneR (jk)!

It's all been a bit of a shock but we'll survive (we have to). Thanks for the dose of positivity!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 19, 2016, 08:23:57 AM
Brian did a private show in Las Vegas last night. There's a pic of just him on Facebook, so perhaps Al and Blondie weren't there?

Added that date and a new 8/22 Virginia show to the top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 19, 2016, 10:55:25 AM
Looks like the tour is hitting Iceland in September! I've added this date to the top post as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: schiaffino on April 20, 2016, 10:50:23 AM
Just got an update from Bandsintown app that Brian is doing Montreal Jazz Fest on July 7!!! Its confirmed on brianwilson.com but tickets not yet available in the festival's site.

 :rock


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 20, 2016, 11:01:15 AM
I've added the Montreal date to the top post. Interesting that they're still filling in dates on the schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Real Barnyard on April 21, 2016, 03:38:27 AM
New dates added in September:
Sep. 1 - Randers, Denmark (Vaerket, with Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin)
Sep. 3 - Brighton, England (Together the People, with Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin)
Sep. 4 - Southend-on-Sea, England (Cliffs Pavilion, with Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin)
Sep. 6 - Reykjavνk, Iceland (Harpa Concert Hall, Eldborg, with Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on April 21, 2016, 04:23:15 AM
That's cool that they are adding more European dates, especially considering that it's supposedly Brian's last European tour. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 21, 2016, 07:18:31 AM
Added the new dates to the top post.

Still need a setlist for the 4/18 Las Vegas show, but I'm not expecting one to easily surface, as it was a private show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on April 27, 2016, 12:54:44 PM
If you know of anyone who's on the fence concerning going to the BW show in Jackson, MS tomorrow night, there are still seats available, mainly in the balcony, but a few good seats still in the orchestra and loge sections.

I just got an email - enter the word "surfboard" in the promo section of the ticket order to get a discount (too late for me - got tickets the day they became available)

Anyone going to New Orleans for JazzFest - it's a 3 hour or so drive to Jackson.  And with all the rain we're getting today, the conditions at the Fest tomorrow will be yucky (although there are Fest goers who relish sloshing around in the mud puddles).

Love and Mercy, y'all!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 27, 2016, 01:05:53 PM
Setlists and reviews please from anyone who goes to the show tomorrow (or any other shows of course).....


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Reverberation on April 28, 2016, 06:41:11 AM
About to leave for Austin right now to see Brian this Saturday at Austin Psych Fest (Levitation) and I can't wait. Is anyone else here going?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: skabandit22 on April 28, 2016, 06:45:56 AM
I will be there! Flying out of Ohio this evening. This will be my first music festival and my second time seeing Brian/Al/any Beach Boys band. First was C50. Interested to see how he and the band handle this type of show as it seems like they've recently only been doing theater shows. Beyond excited.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Reverberation on April 28, 2016, 06:50:59 AM
Nice. I went last year. I'm jealous you saw them during the C50, they did come to my city but I thought I would have another time to see them.. deeply regret it. I'm watching the pre-shows tonight too but at Empire Garage with The Golden Dawn (legendary texas psychedelic band from the 60s) and Ringo Deathstarr. I'll be wearing a Radiant Radish shirt Saturday and try to get a spot near the front around when The Black Angels go on


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 28, 2016, 10:21:00 AM
Now Brian's website has him doing two days of the "Together the People" festival on September 3 and 4. So I'm not sure where the Sep. 4 "Cliffs Pavilion" date came from, but I guess this means that show isn't happening?

I'll go ahead and update the top post to reflect the two days at the festival on 9/3 and 9/4, but if anyone has any info on whether the Cliffs Pavilion date in Southend-On-Sea might still be happening, let me know.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on April 28, 2016, 10:37:15 AM
About to leave for Austin right now to see Brian this Saturday at Austin Psych Fest (Levitation) and I can't wait. Is anyone else here going?

I wish, but couldn't make it this year. Let us know how it goes!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on April 28, 2016, 07:25:08 PM
Will have a review and set list later for the Jackson show.
Not a Pet Sounds show.
Blondie wore a white flower in his hair.
Brian said something that should go down as a classic Brianism
The band was very loose
GREAT SHOW!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on April 29, 2016, 05:35:18 AM
Setlist for Jackson - it was a benefit concert with a few speeches beforehand, so shorter than usual.

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down - Al
Little Deuce Coupe - Al
Little Honda
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby - Matt
Then I Kissed Her - Al
Do It Again
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey - Blondie
Sail on Sailor - Blondie
Wouldn't it Be Nice- Matt
Sloop John B - Al/Brian
God Only Knows
Pet Sounds
Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda - Al
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy

No encores. The band played straight through. Gary Griffin was at this show.

Brian and the band were very loose and in great form.
After Brian came out and said, "Hello, Jackson!" he said, "How loud can the girls yell?" And we yelled. Then "How loud can the boys yell?"

Brian kept praising Al throughout the show. At one point he said, "Al Jardine is the latest and the greatest! He died and went to heaven last night!" Al looked at Brian and said, "Huh??" Then Brian shrugged and said, "I don't know!" The audience laughed, I thought it was hilarious, as it was obvious that Brian had no idea why he said what he did.

Later, Blondie came out, wearing a white flower in his hair. Before singing Wild Honey, he gave out this weird wonderful wailing sound. I tell you, these guys were loose!

Loved the two drummers going at it alone during Pet Sounds after the sax solo. (note - I got to the auditorium early and heard loud drumming - guess they were rehearsing this)

Brian said "I say Yeah" and the crowd said Yeah in return. Then it repeated a few times. Was thinking, what song was this? Sounded like some oldies including Stevie Wonder's Fingertips. But ended up being Barbara Ann

At the end of Fun Fun Fun the final part of Rhapsody in Blue was played.

A wonderful show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: petsoundsnola on April 29, 2016, 05:41:31 AM
Setlist for Jackson - it was a benefit concert with a few speeches beforehand, so shorter than usual.

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down - Al
Little Deuce Coupe - Al
Little Honda
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby - Matt
Then I Kissed Her - Al
Do It Again
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey - Blondie
Sail on Sailor - Blondie
Wouldn't it Be Nice- Matt
Sloop John B - Al/Brian
God Only Knows
Pet Sounds
Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda - Al
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy

No encores. The band played straight through. Gary Griffin was at this show.

Brian and the band were very loose and in great form.
After Brian came out and said, "Hello, Jackson!" he said, "How loud can the girls yell?" And we yelled. Then "How loud can the boys yell?"

Brian kept praising Al throughout the show. At one point he said, "Al Jardine is the latest and the greatest! He died and went to heaven last night!" Al looked at Brian and said, "Huh??" Then Brian shrugged and said, "I don't know!" The audience laughed, I thought it was hilarious, as it was obvious that Brian had no idea why he said what he did.

Later, Blondie came out, wearing a white flower in his hair. Before singing Wild Honey, he gave out this weird wonderful wailing sound. I tell you, these guys were loose!

Loved the two drummers going at it alone during Pet Sounds after the sax solo. (note - I got to the auditorium early and heard loud drumming - guess they were rehearsing this)

Brian said "I say Yeah" and the crowd said Yeah in return. Then it repeated a few times. Was thinking, what song was this? Sounded like some oldies including Stevie Wonder's Fingertips. But ended up being Barbara Ann

At the end of Fun Fun Fun the final part of Rhapsody in Blue was played.

A wonderful show.


Thanks so much for the review.  I'm in Covington, so the concert was only about 2 hours away, but I couldn't make it due to another commitment.  I'm glad to hear the band was in good form and having fun.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 29, 2016, 07:25:04 AM
Setlist for Jackson - it was a benefit concert with a few speeches beforehand, so shorter than usual.

A wonderful show.


Thanks for the setlist and show review. Bummer they couldn't do a full-length show, but sounds like the Brian and the band's upbeat energetic mood made up for it!

And yeah, I've seen Brian blurt some weird stuff out at shows. Back in 2007 he said something about how "Sail on Sailor" wasn't a good song but that they'd "do it anyway", and Al reassured Brian that it was in fact a good song!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on April 29, 2016, 07:37:34 AM
Not super interesting, but it looks like they did "Do It Again" last night for the first time on this tour, and they only rarely did it last year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: schiaffino on April 29, 2016, 09:57:28 AM
I've added the Montreal date to the top post. Interesting that they're still filling in dates on the schedule.

K so tickets are now on sale for Brian at Montreal Jazz Festival 2016. I just got mine  ;D

He's playing Salle Wilfrid-Pelletier in Place-des-Arts complex, which is the centerpoint of Jazz fest. Its a very cool theather, where the OSM (Symphonic Orchestra from Montreal) plays classical concerts. So its also very prestigious. I saw him there back in 2010 for the Gershwin show, sound was great.

So this is going to be my 4th year in a row catching Brian playing live (including the 2013 reunion show). Hope he continues to play for many, many more.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on April 29, 2016, 05:18:08 PM
Has anyone got any photos of the stuff they received at the Meets and Greets?  Would love to get a look.  I'm still hoping to get the package.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on May 01, 2016, 10:30:32 AM
Got our tix for the Hollywood Bowl - very excited about seeing Brian in this historic venue.  We've seen Brian in many places, but never in California - I figured that this tour would be the time we head west. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 01, 2016, 08:08:03 PM
Grand Prairie show was great with so much energy and talent and skill. I'll review more tomorrow with photos.
Here's the set list (similar to most above):


Sound check:
California girls Brian
Dance dance dance Brian
Honkin down the highway Al
Sail on sailor Blondie
I get around Brian and Matt


Show
Our prayer
Heroes and villain Brian
California girls Brian
Dance dance dance Brian
I get around Brian and Matt
Shut down Al
Little deuce Coupe Al
Little Honda Brian
In my room led by Brian
Surfer girl Brian and Matt
Don't worry baby Matt
Wake the world al
Add some music Brian
Honkin down the highway al
Darlin darian
One kind of love Brian
Wo Blondie Chaplin amazing wild honey
Funky pretty Blondie
Sail on sailor Blondie
Pet Sounds
Wouldn't it be nice Matt and Brian
Ysbim Brian
That's not Me Brian and Matt
Don't talk Matt and Brian
Waiting for the day Brian
Let's go away
Sloop Al Brian Al
God only knows Brian
I know there's an answer brian and al and Matt
Here today Brian
I just wasn't Brian and Matt
Pet sounds
Caroline no Brian

Encore
Gv Brian Matt
Proud Mary chorus group
All summer long  Brian
Rhonda Al
Barbara Ann Matt
Surfin USA Brian
Fun fun fun Brian
Love and mercy Brian


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 01, 2016, 08:45:40 PM
Proud Mary? Interesting....


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RiC on May 02, 2016, 12:13:57 AM
Proud Mary! That's cool!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 02, 2016, 07:34:09 AM
According to a review on setlist.fm, "Proud Mary" was only a short snippet, around 30-45 seconds or so. I'm curious to know how impromptu this was versus being something they're rehearsing for future inclusion.

While it's an interesting setlist pick, I've never been enamored with Brian's fascination with (or recordings of) this song.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocket on May 02, 2016, 08:05:26 AM
Went to the Grand Prairie show last night. Was a great show, Brian had a great energy for a majority of the show. The first set was insane, especially when Blondie came out. His leads and guitar solos were great as was his stage presence. Before "Honkin Down The Highway", Brian said Al wrote and produced it, which Al denied soon after  ;D.

Pet Sounds was solid, Brian was struggling with a few leads here and there but overall it was awesome. "Let's Go Away For Awhile" specifically was masterfully executed by the band.

The encore was amazing. The energy in the theatre was contagious. "Help Me, Rhonda" got the most reception from the crowd in seemed to me. "Proud Mary" wasn't very long (they only covered the chorus if I remember correctly), but people were definitely singing along. Brian seemed pumped to play it.

Overall, it was a fantastic concert. Brian was into it, had some great leads. The band was in pretty much perfect form. What more can you ask for?!

Ps: "Funky Pretty" was very good as well, but I would love them to do "Leave This Town" instead!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: jiggy22 on May 03, 2016, 04:20:37 AM
Proud Mary! That's cool!

I wonder if they performed it in the same style as the Paley recording in 92. I'm happy that Brian and the group are starting to dig out some more material (i.e "I'm Broke") from that great era of music. A part of me hopes that they're hinting at an eventual release of the Paley material, but it's highly unlikely!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 03, 2016, 04:39:34 AM
Sounds like another good show!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 03, 2016, 07:09:22 AM
Proud Mary! That's cool!

I wonder if they performed it in the same style as the Paley recording in 92. I'm happy that Brian and the group are starting to dig out some more material (i.e "I'm Broke") from that great era of music. A part of me hopes that they're hinting at an eventual release of the Paley material, but it's highly unlikely!

I like the idea of the band spontaneously doing more stuff, but it seems to not happen too often. "I'm Broke" only got one airing; they didn't try it again spontaneously nor did they fully rehearse it and add it into the setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 03, 2016, 02:04:12 PM
A 9/24 show at the Beacon Theatre in NYC has been added.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: seltaeb1012002 on May 03, 2016, 02:19:15 PM
A 9/24 show at the Beacon Theatre in NYC has been added.

Thx for the heads up! Didn't feel like going all the way out to Jersey. Knew our boy would come through for NYC.  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 03, 2016, 02:21:33 PM
I don't have a whole lot to add to Rocket's review. Keep in mind that this is my first time seeing Brian's band so I can't say how they were relative to other nights - just my isolated impression. I know most of you have seen them before.A few things:

-Proud Mary sounded really good - great harmonies. Yes, just the chorus about 5 times. And Brian seemed excited about it when he introduced it.
-Everyone seemed really on. Perhaps the break from the cancelled festival gave them added energy. \
At the soundcheck everyone seemed really cheerful and joking around a lot. Apparently American Airlines lost Blondie's luggage and he was wearing borrowed clothes. Brian and Al were ribbing each other a lot but obviously with good humor.
-At the meet and greet, Brian, Al and Blondie all took some extra time and talked and joked very nicely with my daughter. She was shy but very excited, and they are all clearly good with kids because they got her past her shyness really well. Brian said a few very friendly words and gave her a big smile and wink as we left.
-Our seats were really good - toward the front and a bit to the left so our view wasn't blocked by the piano.
-Blondie has a cool job - he completely rocks things out for three songs and then mills around on and offstage and occasionally plays tambourine.
-Al's voice, of course, like Blondie's, seems almost ageless.
-Matt Jardine was perfect.
-Brian really surprised me with his energy and enthusiasm. I've read things that sound like people have perceived at some shows like he's not very engaged, but he really was. He gave fun little intros to the songs, sang with zest and his voice sounded really nice and clear. As Rocket indicated, he seemed to get a little tired mid-show for two or three songs but then he bounced back with gusto. On a few songs when he and Matt were trading lines - with Brian doing the Mike part and Matt doing the Brian part - he would do this funny action like he was throwing a ball over his head to Matt for Matt to carry the ball for the next line.
-My daughter commented that it sounded just like the recording, but with more energy, and I'd say that's about right.

I'm astounded at the sound that comes out of this 11-12 person band. It was amazing. They really deserve their reputation. And, Andrew Hickey, if you're listening, I should pay more attention than I've done to the individuals in the band and not just think of them as a bunch of anonymous "Brian's band" members. They are obviously each brilliant musicians in their own rights. Wow.

It was my daughter's first concert (outside of the symphony), and what a great one. The meet and greet really personalized it for her. By the time the show started, they were not just remote famous people on a stage, but humans, which I think allowed her to relax and enjoy their humorous mood and absorb the music a bit better. After a few songs she was pointing out amazing percussive or guitar moments; commenting on the horns...

Absolutely an incredible experience. And if I could I would give massive thanks to everyone involved with this show for the accessibility, not just through the meet and greet but through the very relaxed, jovial stage manner, and for the technical quality - the sound was terrific - and most of all for the quality of the music. The performance lived up to the songs - some of the best ever written.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 03, 2016, 02:22:22 PM
Has anyone got any photos of the stuff they received at the Meets and Greets?  Would love to get a look.  I'm still hoping to get the package.
I'll post some tomorrow. I'm going to post my pictures from the concert now, then I have to go out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 03, 2016, 02:23:43 PM
(http://s32.postimg.org/bb8x4pjz9/IMG_0506.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/jzmvknkv9/IMG_0507.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/gk09rlaw5/IMG_0512.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 03, 2016, 02:27:22 PM
(http://s32.postimg.org/ekf2mfr6t/IMG_0518.jpg)

I've got a series that shows, in three shots, the whole stage and everyone on it, but it uploads upside down for some reason. I'll try again later.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 03, 2016, 02:34:53 PM
Has anyone got any photos of the stuff they received at the Meets and Greets?  Would love to get a look.  I'm still hoping to get the package.
I'll post some tomorrow. I'm going to post my pictures from the concert now, then I have to go out.


Thank you Emily!

Great review, glad you both enjoyed the show.  I will be taking my daughter in May.  Hope she enjoys it too!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 03, 2016, 02:50:57 PM
(http://s32.postimg.org/bb8x4pjz9/IMG_0506.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/jzmvknkv9/IMG_0507.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/gk09rlaw5/IMG_0512.jpg)

Emily - Your review was wonderful, but I must say that happy little face in the last photo in front of the band says it all.

Actually, it's really refreshing to get a review from a younger Brian fan and her daughter who haven't been to so many shows.  I understand that the detailed, comparative reviews are useful, but the sheer joy of reading about you and your daughter having a fabulous time Sunday night should put a smile on anyone's face. That's what this is all about, isn't it? 

Brian has made it clear that he tours because he makes people happy and he shares love.  I think you made it clear that his intention continues to be successful.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocket on May 03, 2016, 10:41:34 PM
Fantastic review, Emily!

I forgot to mention in my brief review that it was actually my first ever concert (I'm turning 21 very soon so I guess I'm a late concert bloomer  ;D). If it sounded like I had seen it all before, it was solely based on the multitude of YouTube videos I had to live off of till I finally got the chance the see him live myself on Sunday night. It truly is incredible seeing Brian live. After so many years of holding him in high regard, he had reached an almost mythological status in my mind until I finally saw him up close and realized that indeed this man who has provided my favorite music and inspired me to make music was in the very same room as me and so many others that have been touched by his music.

Definitely was an experience I will never forget!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 04, 2016, 03:05:47 AM
Yes, thanks for the great review, Emily!  I have to say, my daughter, probably similar age as yours, also really enjoyed the show.  This is a great tour for kids! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on May 04, 2016, 03:39:21 AM
Thanks from me too for the review Emily. Good reviews really add to the experience and enable those of us who can't be there in person to at least get an idea of what it was like.

Nice comments about the band as well. Not just great as a team but wonderful individual talents.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 04, 2016, 07:57:17 AM
The ones I posted yesterday were from the sound check. These are from the concert.

(http://s32.postimg.org/hlh80utwl/IMG_0538.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/shu76sixx/IMG_0539.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/sk9zmsqn9/IMG_0540.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/qtdmzglwl/IMG_0541.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 04, 2016, 08:16:34 AM
(http://s32.postimg.org/cblzvhucl/IMG_0543.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/y3i381nfp/IMG_0542.jpg)

It seems I missed Von Mertens in my photos :-(


A few more comments:
-Rocket, I wasn't making reference to your review particularly - but there are lots of reviews on here from people who have obviously seen this band and the Beach Boys touring band many times, which is so cool.
-I'm so glad to see fans in the teens and 20s joining this board.
-I mentioned the individual prowess of the band members, but as a team they're really tight. Sometimes it looked like Mike D'Amico and Nelson Bragg (am I identifying the band members correctly?) were in some kind of psychedelic synchronized drum corps, fast, flying, flailing arms in perfect unison hammering away. This was most remarkable in Waiting for the Day. The guitars wrapped around each other in a really smooth, complex dialog. They obvious practice the hell out of this ...
-Honkin' Down the Highway is apparently a source of great humor among the band. In sound check Brian sang it in a strange high-pitched jokey nasal voice. Then they made fun for a bit. Then Al sang it in the same voice while everyone chuckled. As Rocket said, in the concert Brian and Al took turns disclaiming responsibility for the song.
-When Von Mertens introduced the band members, each came out on stage to a few bars of a different song, like the batters at a baseball game. These snippets were played with as much oomph as the 'real' songs. I was paying attention to the people and missed what most of the songs were, but I noticed the opening bars of Hey Bulldog that was an explosion of energy.
That's about it.
When my phone is done updating its OS, I'll take some pictures of the poster and music sheet that came with the VIP package and the program.
The program has a lot of pictures from photo shoots from the Pet Sounds era. Most of them I've seen one or two pictures from, but not all that were in the program.
It also has a lot of accolade quotes, most notably a very long one from Pete Townshend, that I've never read before. If anyone's interested, I can transcribe them.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 04, 2016, 08:37:17 AM
I'm getting a little spammy with the pictures. Sorry. Here are a bunch from the program:
(http://s32.postimg.org/68rg1sbj9/IMG_0544.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/qe7z3yo9x/IMG_0545.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/b9zamizxh/IMG_0546.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 04, 2016, 08:39:02 AM
(http://s32.postimg.org/b0jcdmtlx/IMG_0547.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/iupgfioo5/IMG_0549.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/osyoc0i91/IMG_0548.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 04, 2016, 08:43:32 AM
(http://s32.postimg.org/6blh6e4bp/IMG_0553.jpg)

(http://s32.postimg.org/3ktrq8e3p/IMG_0555.jpg)
  :)
(http://s32.postimg.org/p1dx6ie05/IMG_0556.jpg)

I'm so jealous of Brian Wilson for getting to have this adorable fox on his shoulder:
(http://s32.postimg.org/990zjvgbp/IMG_0554.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 04, 2016, 08:47:12 AM
And lastly, from the VIP package, a poster and a page of music. My daughter tried to give them instructions on where to sign and was shocked to find out she doesn't get to boss them around the way she does me. She was very perturbed that Blondie signed right across the music.
(http://s32.postimg.org/ajwdwrz39/IMG_0558.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/x3w2b9u91/IMG_0559.jpg)

I'm done spamming now. If anyone has any particular questions about the program, I'll check back here.
Also, at the merchandise counter they had Help Me Rhonda baseball shirts.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 04, 2016, 08:53:44 AM
One more comment: I would love to play "Stump the band" with these guys.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 04, 2016, 08:54:57 AM
(http://s32.postimg.org/cblzvhucl/IMG_0543.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/y3i381nfp/IMG_0542.jpg)

It seems I missed Von Mertins in my photos :-(


A few more comments:
-Rocket, I wasn't making reference to your review particularly - but there are lots of reviews on here from people who have obviously seen this band and the Beach Boys touring band many times, which is so cool.
-I'm so glad to see fans in the teens and 20s joining this board.
-I mentioned the individual prowess of the band members, but as a team they're really tight. Sometimes it looked like Mike D'Amico and Nelson Bragg (am I identifying the band members correctly?) were in some kind of psychedelic synchronized drum corps, fast, flying, flailing arms in perfect unison hammering away. This was most remarkable in Waiting for the Day. The guitars wrapped around each other in a really smooth, complex dialog. They obvious practice the hell out of this ...
-Honkin' Down the Highway is apparently a source of great humor among the band. In sound check Brian sang it in a strange high-pitched jokey nasal voice. Then they made fun for a bit. Then Al sang it in the same voice while everyone chuckled. As Rocket said, in the concert Brian and Al took turns disclaiming responsibility for the song.
-When Von Mertins introduced the band members, each came out on stage to a few bars of a different song, like the batters at a baseball game. These snippets were played with as much oomph as the 'real' songs. I was paying attention to the people and missed what most of the songs were, but I noticed the opening bars of Hey Bulldog that was an explosion of energy.
That's about it.
When my phone is done updating its OS, I'll take some pictures of the poster and music sheet that came with the VIP package and the program.
The program has a lot of pictures from photo shoots from the Pet Sounds era. Most of them I've seen one or two pictures from, but not all that were in the program.
It also has a lot of accolade quotes, most notably a very long one from Pete Townshend, that I've never read before. If anyone's interested, I can transcribe them.

Emily - If this is spam, it's the best I've ever seen.  Thanks for the wonderful photos and sharing the great stuff in the VIP pkg.

When I commented in my post about the reviews from fans who have been to tons of concerts, I wasn't referencing anyone specific either.  There are so many here, including me, who have been to so many shows.  I appreciate those reviews as well, of course and love many of them - but your "younger fan" view is really, really refreshing to many of us.  I was just realizing that I was very close to your daughter's age when I first saw Brian in concert, 52 years ago.  Needless to say, there have been quite a few shows since.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on May 04, 2016, 09:56:31 AM
A 9/24 show at the Beacon Theatre in NYC has been added.

I'm seeing him 9/23 and 9/25. Hope he won't be too tired!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on May 04, 2016, 10:10:03 AM
(http://s32.postimg.org/bb8x4pjz9/IMG_0506.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/jzmvknkv9/IMG_0507.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/gk09rlaw5/IMG_0512.jpg)

What a cutie!  Glad she had a great time!  ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 06, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Looks like Billy Hinsche will be in the band for the UK and a bit after that. He's saying May 15 to June 20.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wantsomecorn on May 07, 2016, 12:11:55 PM
Given what we know now, it looks like Billy will be replacing Scott permanently, probably switching off with Gary Griffin depending on their availability.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 08, 2016, 02:20:28 PM
Happy to say that I will be seeing Brian and company at the Northside Festival in Brooklyn next month.  The other acts that day are Rostam, a member of Vampire Weekend and Hinds, an all-girl band that I am unfamiliar with.  Kacey Musgraves will be performing on a different day of the festival but I hope based on her presence that she'll show up in Brian's set and perform "Guess You Had to Be There" for the very first time.  That would be pretty awesome.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 09, 2016, 08:05:09 AM
Happy to say that I will be seeing Brian and company at the Northside Festival in Brooklyn next month.  The other acts that day are Rostam, a member of Vampire Weekend and Hinds, an all-girl band that I am unfamiliar with.  Kacey Musgraves will be performing on a different day of the festival but I hope based on her presence that she'll show up in Brian's set and perform "Guess You Had to Be There" for the very first time.  That would be pretty awesome.

I wasn't a huge fan of that track (didn't dislike it either), but I'm always into Brian doing something, anything to change up the show a little bit. Random performances of "I'm Broke", stuff like that. Working the Musgraves track in as a duet would be a cool change-up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ppk700 on May 10, 2016, 08:57:53 AM
According to BBFC, Brian will be playing the New York State Fair on Monday August 29th. This hasn't been officially confirmed yet, but it makes sense. Additionally, Brian is supposedly playing at the Chevy Court, meaning the show will be completely free - just need a ticket to get into the NYS Fair, which would be at most $10.

I live in Syracuse, so I'm particularly excited about this. Herman's Hermits are scheduled to play the Chevy Court at 2 PM that day (http://nysfair.ny.gov/venue/chevy-court/ (http://nysfair.ny.gov/venue/chevy-court/)) and as such Brian would be playing the 8 PM slot.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 10, 2016, 09:01:06 AM
Interesting. I'll add the 8/29 show to the top post. It's quite a varied tour; outdoor sheds, indoor theaters, casinos, a couple of fairs, and then huge outdoor hipster festivals.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bonnie bella on May 11, 2016, 01:14:37 AM
Rocket and Emily, thanks for the wonderfully detailed feedback.  I really enjoyed it.

Emily, Your daughter is absolutely gorgeous.  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on May 11, 2016, 09:47:29 AM
Thanks also for posting the pics from the program book -- I'll definitely be buying one of those!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mr. Wilson on May 12, 2016, 11:56:51 AM
on a earlier post i believe it was mentioned Scott  was leaving the band and being replaced by gary and billy.. Why is this happening anyone know ???


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 12, 2016, 12:06:44 PM
Bonnie Bella - Thank you, she is a great kid.
Emdeeh - I really like the program. There's a lot of text, great pictures, and it's a good quality printing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wantsomecorn on May 12, 2016, 12:14:12 PM
on a earlier post i believe it was mentioned Scott  was leaving the band and being replaced by gary and billy.. Why is this happening anyone know ???

Presumably scheduling conflicts with Scott's new side project; Prison.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 12, 2016, 12:25:22 PM
on a earlier post i believe it was mentioned Scott  was leaving the band and being replaced by gary and billy.. Why is this happening anyone know ???

You must have missed this thread:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23778.0.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Custom Machine on May 12, 2016, 01:09:28 PM
Great photos and review, Emily. Thanks!





Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 12, 2016, 01:49:38 PM
on a earlier post i believe it was mentioned Scott  was leaving the band and being replaced by gary and billy.. Why is this happening anyone know ???

Presumably scheduling conflicts with Scott's new side project; Prison.

 :lol :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 12, 2016, 01:53:25 PM

Emdeeh - I really like the program. There's a lot of text, great pictures, and it's a good quality printing.


As I mentioned after the Auckland concert. Any sign that Mike and Bruce were involved with PS has been omitted. No name check or image. So sad it has come to that.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 12, 2016, 02:17:32 PM
After the 2005 lawsuit Mike launched against Brian, where perhaps the main crux of the suit was a picture of the "original" Beach Boys being used for a BW solo CD, I don't blame Brian and his management for omitting folks who are still living who choose not to tour with Brian.

I'm sure Brian would have been happy to use full group shots if the band could have stayed together and done a "Pet Sounds" tour as a reunited group.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on May 12, 2016, 02:48:51 PM
Sorry if this has been covered before, but BW's website indicates that there is a show on July 7 at "St Joseph du Lac", Quebec.  I'm not sure why it's listed this way because this show is actually at the Montreal Jazz Festival, which is smack in the middle of Montreal.  Just in case anyone on the East Coast wanted to go but didn't know where St Joseph du Lac was...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 12, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
And lastly, from the VIP package, a poster and a page of music. My daughter tried to give them instructions on where to sign and was shocked to find out she doesn't get to boss them around the way she does me. She was very perturbed that Blondie signed right across the music.
(http://s32.postimg.org/ajwdwrz39/IMG_0558.jpg)
(http://s32.postimg.org/x3w2b9u91/IMG_0559.jpg)

I'm done spamming now. If anyone has any particular questions about the program, I'll check back here.
Also, at the merchandise counter they had Help Me Rhonda baseball shirts.

Just looking at this again and noticed no mention of Tony Asher as a writer, only Brian's name.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 12, 2016, 04:06:53 PM
And lastly, from the VIP package, a poster and a page of music. My daughter tried to give them instructions on where to sign and was shocked to find out she doesn't get to boss them around the way she does me. She was very perturbed that Blondie signed right across the music.


I'm done spamming now. If anyone has any particular questions about the program, I'll check back here.
Also, at the merchandise counter they had Help Me Rhonda baseball shirts.

Just looking at this again and noticed no mention of Tony Asher as a writer, only Brian's name.
That's true. I know nothing about music publishing, but I noticed it's a limited horn part. So maybe if the words are just there for a guide you don't need to credit? I don't know.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 12, 2016, 07:19:48 PM
Brian's team seems to be just as guilty of re-writing history lately as Mike's team is...would be nice if these guys ever grew up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 13, 2016, 06:00:18 AM
And lastly, from the VIP package, a poster and a page of music. My daughter tried to give them instructions on where to sign and was shocked to find out she doesn't get to boss them around the way she does me. She was very perturbed that Blondie signed right across the music.


I'm done spamming now. If anyone has any particular questions about the program, I'll check back here.
Also, at the merchandise counter they had Help Me Rhonda baseball shirts.

Just looking at this again and noticed no mention of Tony Asher as a writer, only Brian's name.
That's true. I know nothing about music publishing, but I noticed it's a limited horn part. So maybe if the words are just there for a guide you don't need to credit? I don't know.

Hi Emily, it's the melody and not just a limited horn part.  It has the French horn notes on the intro but it's pretty much the main elements to the song - chords, melody, lyrics.

Imagine the Lovester gave away something similar at one of his shows minus Brian's name.  The board would be in meltdown!  :-D

Still a lovely souvenir which hopefully I'll have in a few weeks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 13, 2016, 06:23:52 AM
And lastly, from the VIP package, a poster and a page of music. My daughter tried to give them instructions on where to sign and was shocked to find out she doesn't get to boss them around the way she does me. She was very perturbed that Blondie signed right across the music.


I'm done spamming now. If anyone has any particular questions about the program, I'll check back here.
Also, at the merchandise counter they had Help Me Rhonda baseball shirts.

Just looking at this again and noticed no mention of Tony Asher as a writer, only Brian's name.
That's true. I know nothing about music publishing, but I noticed it's a limited horn part. So maybe if the words are just there for a guide you don't need to credit? I don't know.

Hi Emily, it's the melody and not just a limited horn part.  It has the French horn notes on the intro but it's pretty much the main elements to the song - chords, melody, lyrics.

Imagine the Lovester gave away something similar at one of his shows minus Brian's name.  The board would be in meltdown!  :-D

Still a lovely souvenir which hopefully I'll have in a few weeks!
Ah. Missed that it moves on from the horn. I didn't look through. My daughter's been practicing it on piano, but the rule is that I don't listen until she's ready.

It is true that it would be a big issue had Mike Love done something analogous. Isn't the law involved with crediting?
I hope your daughter enjoys it as much as mine did (and that you enjoy it as much as I did)!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on May 13, 2016, 06:29:23 AM
Brian's team seems to be just as guilty of re-writing history lately as Mike's team is...would be nice if these guys ever grew up.

kinda like Brian's tour book this year, all of the Pet Sounds photo shoot photo's all have Mike Love removed.  That's even pretty low from Brian's people.  All of the photo's include his brothers and Al, but no Mike or Bruce who of course where there for the sessions and the album cover.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 13, 2016, 06:39:24 AM
Brian's team seems to be just as guilty of re-writing history lately as Mike's team is...would be nice if these guys ever grew up.

kinda like Brian's tour book this year, all of the Pet Sounds photo shoot photo's all have Mike Love removed.  That's even pretty low from Brian's people.  All of the photo's include his brothers and Al, but no Mike or Bruce who of course where there for the sessions and the album cover.
thought about that. And I'm sure there was politics involved in the decision. But a minor justification is that it's a tour book and including Al makes sense in that way, and including his brothers might make emotional sense to Brian Wilson while not including Mike Love at this stage might also make emotional sense. I personally wouldn't criticize Mike Love at this stage for avoiding Brian Wilson references because they clearly have bad feelings about each other right now.
It would have been more tactful had he chosen separate photos that didn't include Mike Love in the first place.
Also, I think I'd seen all of those photos before and the photos I really enjoyed were the ones I hadn't seen, so more of those would've been nice. Like the fox one!  :love


Much better explanation by HeyJude below.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 13, 2016, 07:06:40 AM
Brian's team seems to be just as guilty of re-writing history lately as Mike's team is...would be nice if these guys ever grew up.

kinda like Brian's tour book this year, all of the Pet Sounds photo shoot photo's all have Mike Love removed.  That's even pretty low from Brian's people.  All of the photo's include his brothers and Al, but no Mike or Bruce who of course where there for the sessions and the album cover.

As I mentioned in a previous post, have you read Mike's 2005 lawsuit against Brian? A freebie "Brian Wilson" CD (as opposed to the tour program, which is actually being *sold*) with a pic of Mike on it resulted in a vitriol-filled lawsuit.

If I were Brian or his "team", after that lawsuit, I'd make sure, for no other reason than to protect from future frivolous lawsuits (much of the 2005 lawsuit was found to be "borderline frivolous" by the courts; but that doesn't mean it's not still a pain in the ass and costly and stressful for potential defendants), that Mike Love's picture is nowhere near any Brian product, *especially* when it's a product being sold for profit rather than the giveaway CD in question from 2005.

I'd also have to go back and peruse past programs and other BW tour merch, but I'm guessing the non-appearance of Mike is not a new thing.

I'm also thinking it's less likely they've "removed" Mike from pictures, as if they've airbrushed Mike out of existing pictures. I'm guessing they've just used poses and cropped photos to not show Mike. As I said, I'm pretty sure Mike's decade-old lawsuit is one of the main motivating factors for Brian to err on the side of caution and leave Mike out of it completely.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 13, 2016, 07:11:26 AM
Brian's team seems to be just as guilty of re-writing history lately as Mike's team is...would be nice if these guys ever grew up.

kinda like Brian's tour book this year, all of the Pet Sounds photo shoot photo's all have Mike Love removed.  That's even pretty low from Brian's people.  All of the photo's include his brothers and Al, but no Mike or Bruce who of course where there for the sessions and the album cover.

As I mentioned in a previous post, have you read Mike's 2005 lawsuit against Brian? A freebie "Brian Wilson" CD (as opposed to the tour program, which is actually being *sold*) with a pic of Mike on it resulted in a vitriol-filled lawsuit.

If I were Brian or his "team", after that lawsuit, I'd make sure, for no other reason than to protect from future frivolous lawsuits (much of the 2005 lawsuit was found to be "borderline frivolous" by the courts; but that doesn't mean it's not still a pain in the ass and costly and stressful for potential defendants), that Mike Love's picture is nowhere near any Brian product, *especially* when it's a product being sold for profit rather than the giveaway CD in question from 2005.

I'd also have to go back and peruse past programs and other BW tour merch, but I'm guessing the non-appearance of Mike is not a new thing.

I'm also thinking it's less likely they've "removed" Mike from pictures, as if they've airbrushed Mike out of existing pictures. I'm guessing they've just used poses and cropped photos to not show Mike. As I said, I'm pretty sure Mike's decade-old lawsuit is one of the main motivating factors for Brian to err on the side of caution and leave Mike out of it completely.

Actually, the fact that they got sued in the past for using Mike's image is a very good point that I hadn't thought of. In that light, it would've been foolish to include his image. That would perfectly well explain the choice.

And, writing something stupid is what I get for not reading the whole thread.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 13, 2016, 07:24:19 AM
Also keep in mind that Brian and Mike's tour "merch" is not analogous. That is, Brian's stuff is "Brian" merchandise and because he fully controls the rights to his own likeness and name, the stuff is all his "merch."

On the other hand, Mike's "merch" is part of his license. Just as BRI gets their license fee for Mike's tour, BRI also collect a cut of the merchandising, at least all of the merchandise that bears BRI's trademark (e.g. the name). Mike's merchandise, at least in terms of integrating the band's name, *is* more inclusive than Brian's. But that's because Mike is paying a fee to do so. And, not trying to be snarky, but I don't think "Mike Love" shirts would sell that well.

Supposedly, in 2013 right after Mike left the reunion and went back to his own band, Brian and Al *did* ask Mike not to use their likenesses for the video screen presentations during the shows (the request apparently occurring only after reports that their pics were being used). While that request was certainly imbued with the politics of the aftermath of C50, I don't think it was wholly inappropriate to ask that. Mike was choosing not to play with Brian and Al, but happy to use their images for his show, all the while there were still a few small cases of C50 pics incorrectly being used to promote Mike's shows. In any event, my understanding is that that request from Brian and Al was eventually lifted.

Nevertheless, I could easily envision Brian being *criticized* for using Mike's pics in his tour program in light of having asked a few years ago for his image to be removed from Mike's shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 13, 2016, 07:28:40 AM
Actually, the fact that they got sued in the past for using Mike's image is a very good point that I hadn't thought of. In that light, it would've been foolish to include his image. That would perfectly well explain the choice.

And, writing something stupid is what I get for not reading the whole thread.

To be fair, I'd have to go back to my old Brian programs from the 1999, 2000, and 2004/2005 tours. It may well be that Mike was not included in any of those programs either.

Leaving Mike out of a Brian program probably is a political thing too. But it's not some sort of "trying to rewrite history" exercise. Indeed, Brian tends to praise Mike's writing skills to this day whenever someone brings up the topic with Brian. Brian says nice things about Mike, but keeps his tour stuff separate.

In some cases, Mike does the opposite. Says some questionable things about Brian in interviews, but is probably more than happy to use Brian's likeness in shows or, on his terms during a concert, talk about Brian in a positive light (if, as some concert attendees have reported, he sometimes makes it sound like Brian's dead).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on May 13, 2016, 07:36:36 AM
then it puts everything on 'thin ice' considering that 'Pet Sounds' is a Beach Boys album, not a Brian Wilson solo record, even behind the smoke and mirrors that it is.  They should not have used any of the pics from the photo shoot that included Brian with his brothers, cousin, Al or Bruce.  That has added fuel to the fire.  They should have done new shots with Al and the guys or just used single Brian pics.  This whole photoshoping Mike n Bruce out is childish and using Carl and Dennis is only supporting Brian, but who would know where those brothers would have stood these days. There has been a long time between drinks since Carl n Dennis have gone.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 13, 2016, 07:49:28 AM
then it puts everything on 'thin ice' considering that 'Pet Sounds' is a Beach Boys album, not a Brian Wilson solo record, even behind the smoke and mirrors that it is.  They should not have used any of the pics from the photo shoot that included Brian with his brothers, cousin, Al or Bruce.  That has added fuel to the fire.  They should have done new shots with Al and the guys or just used single Brian pics.  This whole photoshoping Mike n Bruce out is childish and using Carl and Dennis is only supporting Brian, but who would know where those brothers would have stood these days. There has been a long time between drinks since Carl n Dennis have gone.

If you've read some of Mike's lawsuit regarding Brian's "Smile" album, you're making what sound to me like slight variations on Mike's (failed) arguments, which is that "using" a Beach Boys product from the past to promote a current Brian Wilson product is somehow not allowed, or that the original "creators" of that project are somehow entitled to a cut of the proceeds or something.

Brian has to pay whomever owns the copyrights to the PS photo shoot. I'm guessing that's Capitol/UME, but I don't know for sure. He *may* have to pay individuals in those pictures for using their likeness; I'm not sure how that works for things like programs. In any event, that's it. There's no "thin ice" regarding PS being a BB album. If there was, Brian wouldn't have undertaken numerous PS tours starting 16 years ago. And again, the "it was a BB project" argument was the crux of some of the "Smile" lawsuit stuff from the mid-2000s, and those arguments all failed as far as I know. The copyright holders to the music and photos and artwork and all of that are who need to be addressed, not the original artist.

Brian could present an entire Foghat album in concert if he wanted to, and as long as all proper licensing of photos and royalties for musical performances are paid, there's nothing wrong with that.

Also, again are we sure Mike *and* Bruce have been "photoshopped" out of photos? Or have they just chosen photos and cropped photos? Further, Bruce wasn't even in many of the shots from the PS photo shoot (including, as I'm sure we all know, the cover shot, but also many other shots); they did a specific set of photos during that '66 photo shoot without Bruce, so I'm not sure which shots were used and whether cropping of Bruce was even necessary.

And as far as I'm concerned, if Al (and the estate of Carl and Dennis if their permission is needed) have no problem with Brian using their likenesses, Brian shouldn't have to omit them as well just because Mike was litigious in this regard and on this topic back in 2005.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 13, 2016, 04:22:48 PM
Anybody here purchased a Meet and Greet for Glasgow?  I've just taken the plunge!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 13, 2016, 05:06:54 PM
Anybody here purchased a Meet and Greet for Glasgow?  I've just taken the plunge!
Scottish are ye?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 13, 2016, 06:19:35 PM
Sure am!  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 15, 2016, 07:34:39 PM
Any setlists yet for Colston Hall?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ash on May 15, 2016, 11:53:19 PM
In addition to my post gig enthusiastic review I should mention that Darian wasn't there last night. Can't help with setlist but they did do Wake The World which was nice to hear and the last 3 numbers of the first half were Wild Honey / Funky Pretty / Sail On Sailor sung by Blondie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 16, 2016, 12:16:34 AM
then it puts everything on 'thin ice' considering that 'Pet Sounds' is a Beach Boys album, not a Brian Wilson solo record, even behind the smoke and mirrors that it is.  They should not have used any of the pics from the photo shoot that included Brian with his brothers, cousin, Al or Bruce.  That has added fuel to the fire.  They should have done new shots with Al and the guys or just used single Brian pics.  This whole photoshoping Mike n Bruce out is childish and using Carl and Dennis is only supporting Brian, but who would know where those brothers would have stood these days. There has been a long time between drinks since Carl n Dennis have gone.

If you've read some of Mike's lawsuit regarding Brian's "Smile" album, you're making what sound to me like slight variations on Mike's (failed) arguments, which is that "using" a Beach Boys product from the past to promote a current Brian Wilson product is somehow not allowed, or that the original "creators" of that project are somehow entitled to a cut of the proceeds or something.

Brian has to pay whomever owns the copyrights to the PS photo shoot. I'm guessing that's Capitol/UME, but I don't know for sure. He *may* have to pay individuals in those pictures for using their likeness; I'm not sure how that works for things like programs. In any event, that's it. There's no "thin ice" regarding PS being a BB album. If there was, Brian wouldn't have undertaken numerous PS tours starting 16 years ago. And again, the "it was a BB project" argument was the crux of some of the "Smile" lawsuit stuff from the mid-2000s, and those arguments all failed as far as I know. The copyright holders to the music and photos and artwork and all of that are who need to be addressed, not the original artist.

Brian could present an entire Foghat album in concert if he wanted to, and as long as all proper licensing of photos and royalties for musical performances are paid, there's nothing wrong with that.

Also, again are we sure Mike *and* Bruce have been "photoshopped" out of photos? Or have they just chosen photos and cropped photos? Further, Bruce wasn't even in many of the shots from the PS photo shoot (including, as I'm sure we all know, the cover shot, but also many other shots); they did a specific set of photos during that '66 photo shoot without Bruce, so I'm not sure which shots were used and whether cropping of Bruce was even necessary.

And as far as I'm concerned, if Al (and the estate of Carl and Dennis if their permission is needed) have no problem with Brian using their likenesses, Brian shouldn't have to omit them as well just because Mike was litigious in this regard and on this topic back in 2005.

Brian doing Foghat just made me do a spit take


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 16, 2016, 04:22:43 AM
That poor misled fan we all are always worrying about must now think it's called Pet Sounds because it was recorded by Brian and a giraffe, a fox, and a monkey.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Niko on May 16, 2016, 04:29:06 AM
And lastly, from the VIP package, a poster and a page of music. My daughter tried to give them instructions on where to sign and was shocked to find out she doesn't get to boss them around the way she does me. She was very perturbed that Blondie signed right across the music.
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I'm done spamming now. If anyone has any particular questions about the program, I'll check back here.
Also, at the merchandise counter they had Help Me Rhonda baseball shirts.

Just looking at this again and noticed no mention of Tony Asher as a writer, only Brian's name.

That's not uncommon for sheet music since Brian wrote the music...tho there are some lyrics there


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 05:01:05 AM
Bristol

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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 05:06:42 AM
Set List

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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 05:09:49 AM
Proud boy is Mr Dean

Brian signed Holland first UPSIDE DOWN, so I got Al (who found it funny) and Blondie to follow suit  :lol

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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 05:11:46 AM
As Loaf mention (good to meet you) on the Bristol thread, Blondie LP signed (he stated that doesn't see many of these to sign)


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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 05:15:30 AM
Finally, fast becoming my most favourite signed item in my collection (blimey its taken a few years and a load of gigs and lots of beer)

Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce, David and Blondie


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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 16, 2016, 06:15:19 AM
And this reviews:  http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Review-Brian-Wilson-presents-Pet-Sounds-Bristol/story-29277670-detail/story.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter#ZAvfwiDrSlLVRbXP.01


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 16, 2016, 06:33:52 AM
Thanks for posting that review, Deb!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 07:16:34 AM
In addition to my post gig enthusiastic review I should mention that Darian wasn't there last night. Can't help with setlist but they did do Wake The World which was nice to hear and the last 3 numbers of the first half were Wild Honey / Funky Pretty / Sail On Sailor sung by Blondie.

Billy Hinsche has mentioned he's filling in (for Darian it would seem) through June 20th (basically the entire current UK/Europe leg and the pre-San Diego dates in the US in June). The Zombies are back out on tour I believe, so I don't know if that's what Darian is up to presently.

What remains to be seen is if Gary Griffin is now essentially a permanent member, or if Billy and Gary will trade off on that now vacant spot in the band, or if Billy is mainly only the designated "Darian fill-in."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 07:17:29 AM
Apologies if I missed mention of this, but did they do the "Proud Mary" snippet again? I'm curious if they did, or if someone at setlist.fm just copied and pasted the previous setlist that included that (a common occurrence there unfortunately).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 07:24:09 AM
Apologies if I missed mention of this, but did they do the "Proud Mary" snippet again? I'm curious if they did, or if someone at setlist.fm just copied and pasted the previous setlist that included that (a common occurrence there unfortunately).

No Proud Mary, set list from last night posted above


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 07:24:50 AM
Brian doing Foghat just made me do a spit take

Everybody knows that Brian's two constantly-played classics are "Be My Baby" and "Fool for the City."  :3d

Not to veer off-topic, but one of the few funny Jay Leno jokes I can remember is from back in 1995 when the "Beatles Anthology" was airing and the press blitz was running full steam. Leno joked that CBS, who I would guess at the time were infamously low in the ratings, were trying to counterprogram ABC's "Beatles Anthology" with their own project: "The Foghat Anthology."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 07:25:40 AM
Apologies if I missed mention of this, but did they do the "Proud Mary" snippet again? I'm curious if they did, or if someone at setlist.fm just copied and pasted the previous setlist that included that (a common occurrence there unfortunately).

No Proud Mary, set list from last night posted above

Thanks. Saw the setlist posted above; I just didn't know if the "Proud Mary" snippet may have still been done "off script" so to speak.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 16, 2016, 07:30:41 AM
Firstly, apologies to Rob and Loaf for missing the pre gig drinks-I had to go straight to Temple Meads station after the meet and greet and meet my girlfriend.

There was about 30 of us for the soundcheck and meet and greet and the whole experience was handled incredibly well. We had to wait about an hour to go into the soundcheck as there was'techincal issues'. When we did eventually go in, we were told we could film and take as many photos as we liked and sit where we wanted and move about-a very relaxed atmosphere.
The soundcheck itself was a real eye opener watching the guys trying to get all the levels correct, especially considering how many instruments are on stage. They ran through California Girls and after a lengthy discussion about levels, during which Brian was getting quite impatient, they went into Wake The world. They then did God Only Knows and then Blondie came out to do Sail on Sailor.
Throughout the soundcheck it seemed apparent that Gary Griffin and Billy Hinsche were still finding their feet playing together.
Al asked us how it was sounding and Paul did a great job explaining to everyone what was going on.
After Sail on Sailor, the band continued to soundcheck while Brian, Al and Blondie went to do the meet and greet.
We were advised that we could have two items signed and a picture taken but to keep it short. What was funny was that a few people obviously wanted a chat with the guys but would either be met by Brian shouting, 'Next' or 'Stand behind me for the photo'. Al and Blondie were chatting about the soundcheck but were also really open to questions and shaking hands etc.
I got my copy of Holland signed plus the Pet Sounds lithograph.

In all, the whole experience was incredibly well managed-the lady in charge was really nice but also very professional and advised how Brian was quite tired so keep any conversations quick. I don't think she bargained on Brian running the meet and great from his chair!

So....the gig itself. I can't really add to what's already been said. Bar a couple of mic issues, the sound was excellent although I felt the other people around me didn't really wake up until the encore. Only a few people got up at the end of God Only Knows. I was in Row F so maybe it was different behind me but after seeing so many RFH shows, the audience seemed a bit on the subdued side.

Al absolutetly nails his vocals and Matt had Brian's back during every song, stepping in when needed, which wasn't too often. There didn't seem to be much banter between Al and Brian but the appearance of Blondie certainly raised the show a few notches.

All in all, an amazing day-the soundcheck and meet and greet defintely surpassed my expectations and the gig itself was great.
Roll on Friday at The Palladium!

Here's a few photos:


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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 07:36:19 AM
Firstly, apologies to Rob and Loaf for missing the pre gig drinks-I had to go straight to Temple Meads station after the meet and greet and meet my girlfriend.

There was about 30 of us for the soundcheck and meet and greet and the whole experience was handled incredibly well. We had to wait about an hour to go into the soundcheck as there was'techincal issues'. When we did eventually go in, we were told we could film and take as many photos as we liked and sit where we wanted and move about-a very relaxed atmosphere.
The soundcheck itself was a real eye opener watching the guys trying to get all the levels correct, especially considering how many instruments are on stage. They ran through California Girls and after a lengthy discussion about levels, during which Brian was getting quite impatient, they went into Wake The world. They then did God Only Knows and then Blondie came out to do Sail on Sailor.
Throughout the soundcheck it seemed apparent that Gary Griffin and Billy Hinsche were still finding their feet playing together.
Al asked us how it was sounding and Paul did a great job explaining to everyone what was going on.
After Sail on Sailor, the band continued to soundcheck while Brian, Al and Blondie went to do the meet and greet.
We were advised that we could have two items signed and a picture taken but to keep it short. What was funny was that a few people obviously wanted a chat with the guys but would either be met by Brian shouting, 'Next' or 'Stand behind me for the photo'. Al and Blondie were chatting about the soundcheck but were also really open to questions and shaking hands etc.
I got my copy of Holland signed plus the Pet Sounds lithograph.

In all, the whole experience was incredibly well managed-the lady in charge was really nice but also very professional and advised how Brian was quite tired so keep any conversations quick. I don't think she bargained on Brian running the meet and great from his chair!

So....the gig itself. I can't really add to what's already been said. Bar a couple of mic issues, the sound was excellent although I felt the other people around me didn't really wake up until the encore. Only a few people got up at the end of God Only Knows. I was in Row F so maybe it was different behind me but after seeing so many RFH shows, the audience seemed a bit on the subdued side.

Al absolutetly nails his vocals and Matt had Brian's back during every song, stepping in when needed, which wasn't too often. There didn't seem to be much banter between Al and Brian but the appearance of Blondie certainly raised the show a few notches.

All in all, an amazing day-the soundcheck and meet and greet defintely surpassed my expectations and the gig itself was great.
Roll on Friday at The Palladium!

Here's a few photos:


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Hey, thank god Brian signed your copy the correct way up  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 16, 2016, 07:42:20 AM
I think he used yours as practice!

Funnily enough I brought along my copy of Rock n Roll too but left it in my bag. I mentioned it to Blondie who said, "Too late, man...too late"

I'll bring it on Friday in case I see him on the way to the bus.

Rob-was that you who met Blondie and Matt off the bus while we were waiting to go into soundcheck?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on May 16, 2016, 08:28:35 AM
The inflatable giraffe was a nice touch.    :lol   Great pics and reviews, guys!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 16, 2016, 08:38:51 AM
Rob Dean and Cliff1000UK, thanks for the great images and descriptions. You guys each have some great memorabilia. Rob, do you have the artist or did you take the picture on site?
Debbie KL, thanks for linking to the excellent review. It is such a great show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 09:05:05 AM
So it looks like, compared to the most recent May 1st setlist, the changes (besides "Proud Mary") were dropping "Honkin' Down the Highway" and "Darlin'" in favor of "Then I Kissed Her" and "Do It Again" (which surprisingly Brian has only rarely done in the last couple of years, which is fine with me).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 09:19:14 AM
I think he used yours as practice!

Funnily enough I brought along my copy of Rock n Roll too but left it in my bag. I mentioned it to Blondie who said, "Too late, man...too late"

I'll bring it on Friday in case I see him on the way to the bus.

Rob-was that you who met Blondie and Matt off the bus while we were waiting to go into soundcheck?

Hi Cliff, yep sounds like me - I had the KTSA Album Cover T-Shirt on


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 09:23:37 AM
Rob Dean and Cliff1000UK, thanks for the great images and descriptions. You guys each have some great memorabilia. Rob, do you have the artist or did you take the picture on site?
Debbie KL, thanks for linking to the excellent review. It is such a great show.

Hi Emily, sorry I don't understand the question (too long a day yesterday, no doubt)
 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 16, 2016, 09:47:03 AM
Was that at the meet and greet, Rob?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 16, 2016, 09:50:37 AM
Rob Dean and Cliff1000UK, thanks for the great images and descriptions. You guys each have some great memorabilia. Rob, do you have the artist or did you take the picture on site?
Debbie KL, thanks for linking to the excellent review. It is such a great show.

Hi Emily, sorry I don't understand the question (too long a day yesterday, no doubt)
 
No - sorry - that was my phone thinking it's smarter than me. I meant set list!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 16, 2016, 09:51:33 AM
So it looks like, compared to the most recent May 1st setlist, the changes (besides "Proud Mary") were dropping "Honkin' Down the Highway" and "Darlin'" in favor of "Then I Kissed Her" and "Do It Again" (which surprisingly Brian has only rarely done in the last couple of years, which is fine with me).
Darlin' is probably because Darian did the lead.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 10:21:40 AM
So it looks like, compared to the most recent May 1st setlist, the changes (besides "Proud Mary") were dropping "Honkin' Down the Highway" and "Darlin'" in favor of "Then I Kissed Her" and "Do It Again" (which surprisingly Brian has only rarely done in the last couple of years, which is fine with me).
Darlin' is probably because Darian did the lead.

Agreed. Although, I do believe Billy Hinsche sang "Darlin'" when he filled in for Darian for a string of shows late last year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 10:24:05 AM
Rob Dean and Cliff1000UK, thanks for the great images and descriptions. You guys each have some great memorabilia. Rob, do you have the artist or did you take the picture on site?
Debbie KL, thanks for linking to the excellent review. It is such a great show.

Hi Emily, sorry I don't understand the question (too long a day yesterday, no doubt)
 
No - sorry - that was my phone thinking it's smarter than me. I meant set list!

Ok  ;D  I was stage hogging at the end and a certain Mr Jardine (Snr) gave me the set-list  :o


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 10:26:18 AM
Was that at the meet and greet, Rob?

Hi Ed, no a bit of strategic planning - I knew what time the sound check was to take place so awaited the Tour Bus's by the stage door

Eh, A LOT cheaper than the meet and greet package  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 16, 2016, 10:32:33 AM
A few more pics from Bristol

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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 16, 2016, 10:38:51 AM
Rob Dean and Cliff1000UK, thanks for the great images and descriptions. You guys each have some great memorabilia. Rob, do you have the artist or did you take the picture on site?
Debbie KL, thanks for linking to the excellent review. It is such a great show.

Hi Emily, sorry I don't understand the question (too long a day yesterday, no doubt)
 
No - sorry - that was my phone thinking it's smarter than me. I meant set list!

Ok  ;D  I was stage hogging at the end and a certain Mr Jardine (Snr) gave me the set-list  :o
What a cool thing to have!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 16, 2016, 11:35:12 AM
Great photos, Rob. Yes-after nearly an hour of waiting to get into the soundcheck, I wasn't sure what I was most jealous of-your t-shirt or the pint you were holding!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on May 16, 2016, 12:07:28 PM
then it puts everything on 'thin ice' considering that 'Pet Sounds' is a Beach Boys album, not a Brian Wilson solo record, even behind the smoke and mirrors that it is.  They should not have used any of the pics from the photo shoot that included Brian with his brothers, cousin, Al or Bruce.  That has added fuel to the fire.  They should have done new shots with Al and the guys or just used single Brian pics.  This whole photoshoping Mike n Bruce out is childish and using Carl and Dennis is only supporting Brian, but who would know where those brothers would have stood these days. There has been a long time between drinks since Carl n Dennis have gone.

If you've read some of Mike's lawsuit regarding Brian's "Smile" album, you're making what sound to me like slight variations on Mike's (failed) arguments, which is that "using" a Beach Boys product from the past to promote a current Brian Wilson product is somehow not allowed, or that the original "creators" of that project are somehow entitled to a cut of the proceeds or something.

Brian has to pay whomever owns the copyrights to the PS photo shoot. I'm guessing that's Capitol/UME, but I don't know for sure. He *may* have to pay individuals in those pictures for using their likeness; I'm not sure how that works for things like programs. In any event, that's it. There's no "thin ice" regarding PS being a BB album. If there was, Brian wouldn't have undertaken numerous PS tours starting 16 years ago. And again, the "it was a BB project" argument was the crux of some of the "Smile" lawsuit stuff from the mid-2000s, and those arguments all failed as far as I know. The copyright holders to the music and photos and artwork and all of that are who need to be addressed, not the original artist.

Brian could present an entire Foghat album in concert if he wanted to, and as long as all proper licensing of photos and royalties for musical performances are paid, there's nothing wrong with that.

Also, again are we sure Mike *and* Bruce have been "photoshopped" out of photos? Or have they just chosen photos and cropped photos? Further, Bruce wasn't even in many of the shots from the PS photo shoot (including, as I'm sure we all know, the cover shot, but also many other shots); they did a specific set of photos during that '66 photo shoot without Bruce, so I'm not sure which shots were used and whether cropping of Bruce was even necessary.

And as far as I'm concerned, if Al (and the estate of Carl and Dennis if their permission is needed) have no problem with Brian using their likenesses, Brian shouldn't have to omit them as well just because Mike was litigious in this regard and on this topic back in 2005.

I'm curious if Brian needs permission through BRI and/or Capitol to do a "Pet Sounds" tour? On the flipside, what would stop Mike & Bruce from billing their tour as Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary? I don't want to get into the appropriateness, but more the legality. Keep in mind I know nothing when it comes to "rights". Could there theoretically be dueling tours billed as "Pet Sounds" as long as Capitol signed off and appropriate fees paid?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 16, 2016, 12:34:39 PM
then it puts everything on 'thin ice' considering that 'Pet Sounds' is a Beach Boys album, not a Brian Wilson solo record, even behind the smoke and mirrors that it is.  They should not have used any of the pics from the photo shoot that included Brian with his brothers, cousin, Al or Bruce.  That has added fuel to the fire.  They should have done new shots with Al and the guys or just used single Brian pics.  This whole photoshoping Mike n Bruce out is childish and using Carl and Dennis is only supporting Brian, but who would know where those brothers would have stood these days. There has been a long time between drinks since Carl n Dennis have gone.

If you've read some of Mike's lawsuit regarding Brian's "Smile" album, you're making what sound to me like slight variations on Mike's (failed) arguments, which is that "using" a Beach Boys product from the past to promote a current Brian Wilson product is somehow not allowed, or that the original "creators" of that project are somehow entitled to a cut of the proceeds or something.

Brian has to pay whomever owns the copyrights to the PS photo shoot. I'm guessing that's Capitol/UME, but I don't know for sure. He *may* have to pay individuals in those pictures for using their likeness; I'm not sure how that works for things like programs. In any event, that's it. There's no "thin ice" regarding PS being a BB album. If there was, Brian wouldn't have undertaken numerous PS tours starting 16 years ago. And again, the "it was a BB project" argument was the crux of some of the "Smile" lawsuit stuff from the mid-2000s, and those arguments all failed as far as I know. The copyright holders to the music and photos and artwork and all of that are who need to be addressed, not the original artist.

Brian could present an entire Foghat album in concert if he wanted to, and as long as all proper licensing of photos and royalties for musical performances are paid, there's nothing wrong with that.

Also, again are we sure Mike *and* Bruce have been "photoshopped" out of photos? Or have they just chosen photos and cropped photos? Further, Bruce wasn't even in many of the shots from the PS photo shoot (including, as I'm sure we all know, the cover shot, but also many other shots); they did a specific set of photos during that '66 photo shoot without Bruce, so I'm not sure which shots were used and whether cropping of Bruce was even necessary.

And as far as I'm concerned, if Al (and the estate of Carl and Dennis if their permission is needed) have no problem with Brian using their likenesses, Brian shouldn't have to omit them as well just because Mike was litigious in this regard and on this topic back in 2005.

I'm curious if Brian needs permission through BRI and/or Capitol to do a "Pet Sounds" tour? On the flipside, what would stop Mike & Bruce from billing their tour as Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary? I don't want to get into the appropriateness, but more the legality. Keep in mind I know nothing when it comes to "rights". Could there theoretically be dueling tours billed as "Pet Sounds" as long as Capitol signed off and appropriate fees paid?
Legally, I think you or I could go ahead and do a Pet Sounds tour, meaning a tour that covers all the songs of Pet Sounds in order. In terms of labelling it a "Pet Sounds" tour, there would be room for the right judge to allow a suit if someone had copyrighted a tour name. But it would be a really gray area depending on whether the name belonged to the music under that title or whether the name belonged to the pre-existing tour. One could sue but it's really argument- and judge-dependent whether one would win. Most likely using the term "Pet Sounds" would fly but using the term "Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour," if that's copywritten, would not fly.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 12:39:37 PM
I'm curious if Brian needs permission through BRI and/or Capitol to do a "Pet Sounds" tour? On the flipside, what would stop Mike & Bruce from billing their tour as Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary? I don't want to get into the appropriateness, but more the legality. Keep in mind I know nothing when it comes to "rights". Could there theoretically be dueling tours billed as "Pet Sounds" as long as Capitol signed off and appropriate fees paid?

I don't think any clearances are needed. I've seen club bands present a full album from artists and advertise it as such.

Certainly, Brian can perform the PS album in its entirety (or any other album). He can perform any song that has been published. His setlist is not bound by anything other than the song being published and standard royalties paid to all publishers.

Concerning advertising it as a "Pet Sounds" tour, I'm not sure any clearances would be needed. Capitol owns the original album, not BRI, so *if* permission were needed, it would more likely be from Capitol rather than BRI. And again, I think Paul McCartney could go out and do a "Paul McCartney Presents The MIU Album" tour and it would be fine. It's truly a descriptive tour title.

Once the "Beach Boys" trademark starts being used in a band's title or a tour's title, then it becomes a more grey area. (Ask Al Jardine about that!). But Brian's tour is a "Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour." No BB references on the ticket or anything. Brian is allowed to say he's performing Beach Boys songs in a descriptive sense. So you can have a poster than says "Brian Wilson Presents Pet Sounds", and then below that text referencing that the show will include Al and Blondie, and that he will be performing Beach Boys classics and deep cuts, etc.

Al Jardine referenced in an interview a year or two ago that he and Brian had been warned (e.g. perhaps a "friendly reminder letter" from someone's legal counsel) to be careful how they bill the Brian/Al shows and to ensure it is not mistaken for a "Beach Boys" concert. (Hopefully they told anyone who sent such a letter to do something more creative with that letter).

With anything there is the possibility of litigation. But I think Brian touring an album is fine, and titling the tour after the album is acceptable as it is descriptive.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 12:43:46 PM
And again, let's remember that there was some scuttle involving "Smile" being a "Beach Boys" product originally (e.g. the band and label funding the original sessions) when that "Smile" related lawsuit was flying around 2005 or so. As I recall, those sorts of claims went nowhere.

In addition, both Capitol and BRI have standing, ongoing relationships with Brian such that I doubt, even if they thought they had a chance to go after Brian for using the "PS" title for his tour, they would ever pursue such a thing.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Theydon Bois on May 16, 2016, 12:55:16 PM
I'm curious if Brian needs permission through BRI and/or Capitol to do a "Pet Sounds" tour? On the flipside, what would stop Mike & Bruce from billing their tour as Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary? I don't want to get into the appropriateness, but more the legality. Keep in mind I know nothing when it comes to "rights". Could there theoretically be dueling tours billed as "Pet Sounds" as long as Capitol signed off and appropriate fees paid?

I don't think any clearances are needed. I've seen club bands present a full album from artists and advertise it as such.

Certainly, Brian can perform the PS album in its entirety (or any other album). He can perform any song that has been published. His setlist is not bound by anything other than the song being published and standard royalties paid to all publishers.

Concerning advertising it as a "Pet Sounds" tour, I'm not sure any clearances would be needed. Capitol owns the original album, not BRI, so *if* permission were needed, it would more likely be from Capitol rather than BRI. And again, I think Paul McCartney could go out and do a "Paul McCartney Presents The MIU Album" tour and it would be fine. It's truly a descriptive tour title.

It would be fun to see Brian touring the 1985 album on that basis, as a test case.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 16, 2016, 12:56:35 PM
I'm curious if Brian needs permission through BRI and/or Capitol to do a "Pet Sounds" tour? On the flipside, what would stop Mike & Bruce from billing their tour as Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary? I don't want to get into the appropriateness, but more the legality. Keep in mind I know nothing when it comes to "rights". Could there theoretically be dueling tours billed as "Pet Sounds" as long as Capitol signed off and appropriate fees paid?

I don't think any clearances are needed. I've seen club bands present a full album from artists and advertise it as such.

Certainly, Brian can perform the PS album in its entirety (or any other album). He can perform any song that has been published. His setlist is not bound by anything other than the song being published and standard royalties paid to all publishers.

Concerning advertising it as a "Pet Sounds" tour, I'm not sure any clearances would be needed. Capitol owns the original album, not BRI, so *if* permission were needed, it would more likely be from Capitol rather than BRI. And again, I think Paul McCartney could go out and do a "Paul McCartney Presents The MIU Album" tour and it would be fine. It's truly a descriptive tour title.

It would be fun to see Brian touring the 1985 album on that basis, as a test case.

Very good point! :lol

"Brian Wilson Presents The Beach Boys"

And Mike can tour Brian's 88 album. "The Beach Boys Present Brian Wilson."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on May 16, 2016, 05:28:26 PM
The Bristol gig got trashed by the telegraph, called the "saddest gig ever".

Not going to bother linking to it but it got me pretty angry...till i remembered nobody cares about the telegraph


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on May 16, 2016, 05:38:42 PM
Thanks for the replies Emily and HeyJude!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 16, 2016, 05:40:12 PM
The Bristol gig got trashed by the telegraph, called the "saddest gig ever".

Not going to bother linking to it but it got me pretty angry...till i remembered nobody cares about the telegraph
Normally, I'm indifferent to the brouhaha over negative reviews. I don't care if someone doesn't like what I like. But that piece -  wth? That was some nasty, off-base sh*t.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CarlTheVoice on May 17, 2016, 01:31:55 AM
It's great to see everyone's reviews on the recent gigs, looking forward to Saturday now!

I have emailed the promoter but no reply yet so I wondered if any of the posters who went to Bristol could help?

I have booked the meet and greet package at the Palladium but was quite surprised to see the arrival time was 3:30! I have a 6 week old baby who would need to be fed by someone else and I am not sure my baby will be happy doing that for the whole afternoon and evening! I wondered if there were any breaks in between check in, sound check, meeting that I could go and feed my baby in? Are you allowed to go off as long as you return for a certain time?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 17, 2016, 03:47:35 AM
It's great to see everyone's reviews on the recent gigs, looking forward to Saturday now!

I have emailed the promoter but no reply yet so I wondered if any of the posters who went to Bristol could help?

I have booked the meet and greet package at the Palladium but was quite surprised to see the arrival time was 3:30! I have a 6 week old baby who would need to be fed by someone else and I am not sure my baby will be happy doing that for the whole afternoon and evening! I wondered if there were any breaks in between check in, sound check, meeting that I could go and feed my baby in? Are you allowed to go off as long as you return for a certain time?

Thanks!

Hi,

We arrived for 3.30pm and was met around 3.45pm by the lady in charge who 'booked' us in. Due to 'techincal issues', we had to wait nearly an hour to go in. After soundcheck, we immediately got shown into a room for the meet and greet but had to wait about 10mins for Brian to arrive.
I would just mention your situation to the lady (she's quite short with long dark hair) and I'm sure you would be able to escape between the soundcheck and meet and greet*





*I am not a qualified meet and greet organiser and so can only advise what would be sensible to someone with a 6 week baby who had spent £275 on a package!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 17, 2016, 04:08:50 AM
Hey guys - quick question for people who've booked the meet and greet. I've booked for Manchester and I've had my normal ticket through the post but I don't have anything that tells me time or accreditation for the meet n greet. Is this normal? Should I be worried? If it's not normal who should I contact? Ticket vendor, venue or bw website?

Cheers in advance


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 17, 2016, 04:17:24 AM
Hey guys - quick question for people who've booked the meet and greet. I've booked for Manchester and I've had my normal ticket through the post but I don't have anything that tells me time or accreditation for the meet n greet. Is this normal? Should I be worried? If it's not normal who should I contact? Ticket vendor, venue or bw website?

Cheers in advance

I got an email about a week before. This is the address you should contact: vipinfouk@artistarenasupport.com

Cheers


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 17, 2016, 07:35:41 AM
Hey guys - quick question for people who've booked the meet and greet. I've booked for Manchester and I've had my normal ticket through the post but I don't have anything that tells me time or accreditation for the meet n greet. Is this normal? Should I be worried? If it's not normal who should I contact? Ticket vendor, venue or bw website?

Cheers in advance

I got an email about a week before. This is the address you should contact: vipinfouk@artistarenasupport.com

Cheers

Brilliant mate, I'll drop them a message now. Thanks!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 17, 2016, 07:51:01 AM
The Telegraph piece is kind of a hit piece. We've read a number of reviews like this in the past. The guy doesn't get it. His comments on Brian's stage demeanor are *not* the tells that he doesn't get it, though. I've always understood why the "uninitiated" might find Brian's stage presence odd and uncomfortable. The tells that it's a hit piece and the guy  is going out of his way to be negative about everything are his comments on the 70s BB material ("middle of the road rockers"), and going to extra lengths to chide even Al Jardine (he can't sing on mic? Wtf is he talking about? What a *weird* criticism to make).

A look at his other works on the Telegraph website show most of his other stuff is standard "blogger" level material, like reviewing the "X Files" revival episodes (shooting fish a barrel that one is, but I won't go off topic!). It doesn't look like he's a music or concert reviewer especially, and even the website uses this generic description of him: "Tim Martin is a journalist and book critic for the Telegraph."

I'm not saying there's not a place for any and all topics; I certainly have spent too much time on websites finding out when they're going to bring back the Chili Cheese Burrito to Taco Bell that will surely kill my gall bladder. But I don't know how much I should weight a concert review from a guy who doesn't have any other apparent concert reviews under his name on the Telegraph website, and despite being described as a "book critic" seems to mostly review TV shows, and has an article titled: "Have you ever Skyped your dog? Choose the Right Puppy for You - review." Oh, he did break this news: "Gillian Anderson: 'I've never been romantically involved with David Duchovny’"   


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on May 17, 2016, 07:57:29 AM
The Telegraph piece is kind of a hit piece. We've read a number of reviews like this in the past. The guy doesn't get it.
I hear the X-Files forums are saying much the same thing about him.   :lol



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 17, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
The Telegraph piece is kind of a hit piece. We've read a number of reviews like this in the past. The guy doesn't get it.
I hear the X-Files forums are saying much the same thing about him.   :lol



Ironically, I'd say the majority of X-Files fans didn't dig the new miniseries. Like I said, criticizing that is fish-in-a-barrel status as far as I'm concerned. Which I think is kind of true of criticizing Brian's stage presence. Again, the guy doesn't get it, and some folks don't get it and that's okay.

A negative review doesn't bother me. I think seemingly fake incredulity is what bothers me. The guy either *knows* Brian's deal and is choosing to not give the show the right context, in which case he's just kind of being a d**k, or he doesn't know Brian's deal and then maybe isn't the guy to write the review.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 17, 2016, 08:33:49 AM
I don't think it is a hatchet job, it is a guy going by appearances (which can be deceiving as his Grandma probably told him) and is doing Brian and his readers a dis-service by not doing his homework.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 17, 2016, 09:21:14 AM
Was that at the meet and greet, Rob?

Hi Ed, no a bit of strategic planning - I knew what time the sound check was to take place so awaited the Tour Bus's by the stage door

Eh, A LOT cheaper than the meet and greet package  ;D

Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 17, 2016, 09:29:47 AM
The Telegraph piece is kind of a hit piece. We've read a number of reviews like this in the past. The guy doesn't get it. His comments on Brian's stage demeanor are *not* the tells that he doesn't get it, though. I've always understood why the "uninitiated" might find Brian's stage presence odd and uncomfortable. The tells that it's a hit piece and the guy  is going out of his way to be negative about everything are his comments on the 70s BB material ("middle of the road rockers"), and going to extra lengths to chide even Al Jardine (he can't sing on mic? Wtf is he talking about? What a *weird* criticism to make).

A look at his other works on the Telegraph website show most of his other stuff is standard "blogger" level material, like reviewing the "X Files" revival episodes (shooting fish a barrel that one is, but I won't go off topic!). It doesn't look like he's a music or concert reviewer especially, and even the website uses this generic description of him: "Tim Martin is a journalist and book critic for the Telegraph."

I'm not saying there's not a place for any and all topics; I certainly have spent too much time on websites finding out when they're going to bring back the Chili Cheese Burrito to Taco Bell that will surely kill my gall bladder. But I don't know how much I should weight a concert review from a guy who doesn't have any other apparent concert reviews under his name on the Telegraph website, and despite being described as a "book critic" seems to mostly review TV shows, and has an article titled: "Have you ever Skyped your dog? Choose the Right Puppy for You - review." Oh, he did break this news: "Gillian Anderson: 'I've never been romantically involved with David Duchovny’"   

I agree. It felt like a hit piece, not because the reviewer apparently didn't like the show but because some of the no-brainer points that seem to have gone over his head. At the same time why would a media outlet send someone inexperienced in writing music reviews to cover a concert in the first place? Did they not have a popular music reviewer available, or is that an area they farm out to syndicated columns not wanted to have a music writer (non-classical) on the payroll and instead feel that the younger generation blogger/freelancer credo is good enough for their readership? Odd choice.

A negative review doesn't bother me. I think seemingly fake incredulity is what bothers me. The guy either *knows* Brian's deal and is choosing to not give the show the right context, in which case he's just kind of being a d**k, or he doesn't know Brian's deal and then maybe isn't the guy to write the review.

Possibility #3 - The writer just doesn't dig the music, the performers, or all of the above.
Possibility #4 - It was a hit piece.

Some of this reminded me of this earlier post I wrote about the responsibility and expectations of reviewers and reviews in general, once they - like this piece - are elevated to an "official" status by publication rather than blog entries anyone online can do. When the official reviewers and reviews start sounding and reading like cut-rate blogging, that's a red flag.



The difference is a review (or reviewers) has or should be expected to have the responsibility to the readers to come from a place of knowledge or experience when offering the review. A review is opinion, yes, but if a reviewer is going to publish and take it to a different level than simply offering opinions as any random person will do when experiencing something and offering a reaction to it, they should at least be more knowledgeable and aware of the area they're reviewing than a random person reacting to something. Two examples:

The classical and jazz music worlds can be a little stuffy, a little pretentious in the wrong hands, of course. But would a publication or anyone for that matter hire and send a writer/reviewer whose expertise is punk rock and alternative music who has little or no knowledge of jazz or classical music to review a jazz concert featuring the compositions of Charles Mingus or critique a classical concert featuring the works of Stravinsky when that writer is unfamiliar with the bodies of work from those composers and has no frame of reference other than a gut-level reaction upon hearing it? Would those publications or even that writer then expect their readers to weigh the writings and critiques of someone totally unfamiliar with those genres of music and the history of the music as anywhere close to the words of someone who instead has a working knowledge of who and what they're writing about?

It separates the responsibility if not the burden of both the reviewer and the outlet that publishes the review as journalism and critical or analytical music writing from anyone's ability to start a blog or post on any online outlet and post opinions 'til the cows come home. But which are presented as informed opinions and analysis versus gut-level reactions?

The issues John Manning raised regarding commercial reviews and market-specific publications publishing reviews applies as well to something as specific as the world of guitar gear and equipment.

The trend has been for years to emulate classic gear that has since become valued out of the range of most players who are not successful beyond the norm or else the weekend warriors who work and do business on the golf course during the week and like to unwind on weekends over cigar and whiskey get-togethers while strumming Skynrd tunes on a '59 Les Paul through a '65 blackface Fender Twin that their regular jobs could afford to finance.

So companies make products like affordable plug-ins for various devices like iPhones, iPads, and any number of DAW recording setups that are supposed to offer the sound of a '65 Fender Twin.

If I read a review of such a product emulating a '65 Fender Twin, I would expect that the reviewer took the time and effort to have either plugged into an actual vintage '65 Twin for a true A/B comparison, or at least have had previous experience either owning or playing through a real '65 Twin at some point in order to form the opinion on which the review is based.

If they did not, then both praising this emulation of a '65 Twin by saying "I plugged into this plug-in and it nailed the sound of a '65 Twin!" or "this plug-in falls short of sounding like a real '65 Twin" is simply dishonest and not coming from a place of knowledge. It's just someone's gut-level reaction and should not be elevated to being presented as a knowledgeable review.

And my own gut-level feeling is that some of the reviewers who might be writing about the latest plug-ins to emulate a '65 Twin could be put into a room and given a blind test, where a real '65 blackface Twin, a 70's master-volume silverface Twin, an 80's red-knob Twin, and a Line 6 Pod set to the Twin preset would not be distinguishable. Yet, players who know their field of work and are legitimately knowledgeable about vintage amps could probably pick them out quite easily because they know the differences in sound and response between each.

So, a review has to come from a place of knowledge and hands-on experience, and there is or should still be a place in the market for that versus anyone who wants to start a blog account to post opinion after opinion coming from far less an authoritative or knowledgeable position.


Today:
I don't think it is a hatchet job, it is a guy going by appearances (which can be deceiving as his Grandma probably told him) and is doing Brian and his readers a dis-service by not doing his homework.

Last week:
I guess you can still be of the opinion something sucks even if you don't know the genre.

As this was an official, published review from a major media outlet (not a blog, Facebook, or fan forum post), I have to ask which is it? Can the guy writing it simply say it sucks even if he doesn't know the genre-artist-etc as well as a lot of fans seem to think he should so simple points wouldn't be missed, or should he and other official reviewers do their homework and at least have a working knowledge of who and what they are reviewing?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 17, 2016, 09:31:10 AM
It's great to see everyone's reviews on the recent gigs, looking forward to Saturday now!

I have emailed the promoter but no reply yet so I wondered if any of the posters who went to Bristol could help?

I have booked the meet and greet package at the Palladium but was quite surprised to see the arrival time was 3:30! I have a 6 week old baby who would need to be fed by someone else and I am not sure my baby will be happy doing that for the whole afternoon and evening! I wondered if there were any breaks in between check in, sound check, meeting that I could go and feed my baby in? Are you allowed to go off as long as you return for a certain time?

Thanks!
Hi, will your baby be with you and you're just wondering if you will be able to have a quiet moment apart for feeding or will you have to leave altogether to go to where the baby will be? If the former, I expect you'll be able to catch enough time. There were 20 minute lags here and there. If the latter, then if things run on schedule, there's an hour + between the meet and greet and the concert, but I don't think you'd have enough time in the lulls between check-in, sound check and meet and greet.
Congratulations on your baby!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kwan_dk on May 17, 2016, 11:36:48 AM
I'm going to the Saturday show at the Palladium in London.

I haven't read through the whole thread, so forgive me if I've overlooked something, but will fans meet up before the concert somewhere close to the Palladium? Like in a pub or so? Seems like there was something like that in Bristol recently. Could be cool meeting other fans.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on May 17, 2016, 11:58:02 AM
I'm going to patty & bun for chicken wings after work and before Friday's palladium gig .

Might even suspend my fizzy pop boycott for some root beer in honour of the occasion.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on May 17, 2016, 12:06:48 PM
I'm going to the Saturday show at the Palladium in London.

I haven't read through the whole thread, so forgive me if I've overlooked something, but will fans meet up before the concert somewhere close to the Palladium? Like in a pub or so? Seems like there was something like that in Bristol recently. Could be cool meeting other fans.
I'm going to be there. But I have my father in tow and we were planning on spending some time together in London, not seeing each other that often..  :-\


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 17, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 17, 2016, 04:42:09 PM
As this was an official, published review from a major media outlet (not a blog, Facebook, or fan forum post), I have to ask which is it? Can the guy writing it simply say it sucks even if he doesn't know the genre-artist-etc as well as a lot of fans seem to think he should so simple points wouldn't be missed, or should he and other official reviewers do their homework and at least have a working knowledge of who and what they are reviewing?

Aside from comparing apples (genre) to oranges (performance), it's both imo.  He can think it sucks without or in spite of knowing the genre-artist-etc; on it's own merits. He should do his homework, though I suppose he may have and still feels the way he does about the performance on its own merits.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rich Panteluk on May 17, 2016, 07:57:32 PM
Las Vegas (and perhaps Toronto) Pet Sounds tickets for sale or trade - face value.
I have two wonderful tickets to Brian Wilson (With Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin) on Friday July 1, 2016 in Las Vegas at The Joint in The Hard Rock that I can't use due to a maddening work conflict.  I bought tickets to Massey Hall a few days later in Toronto instead (now it seems I may not be able to use those either...ugh).  Anyhow, I believe the show is now sold out.  I am not a scalper and am just looking to recoup what I paid.  The seats are great.  They are in the Gold2 section Row KK (the two seats are together, of course) which is 11th row centre on the floor in the orchestra section.  This is prime seating as if you are much closer you may not see Brian with his white piano obscuring his body and head.  This has happened to me before so these seats are up close but not too close.  Anyhow please contact me if you are interested.
 
richp20@hotmail.com

I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and these are hard tickets in my current possession, not sketchy e-tickets.  Buyer pays shipping.

Also if you are interested in the 2 Massey Hall tickets for The July 4 Toronto show, let me know as I may have to give those up as well.

I am now hoping to attend the Hollywood Bowl show and would be happy to do a trade if you have premium seats for that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 18, 2016, 12:55:09 AM
Birmingham gig review

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/review-brian-wilson-symphony-hall-11348409


Now onto Cardiff for tonight, anyone here going ? If so, see you there


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 18, 2016, 03:00:22 AM
I'll only have time for brief comments about the Birmingham show before heading for Cardiff for tonight's show.  The show had fantastic energy and Brian sang the sweetest GOK I believe I've heard him do.  He was amazing all through PS and did a fine job during the rest of the show.  Blondie killed it, as he always does - amazing. Al's and Matt's vocals were perfect.  I love this blend of voices so much.

What's strongest in my mind - no doubt because it was the first time I'd heard this arrangement - was Funky Pretty.  I liked it better than the original.  I hope they keep it in the setlist because it's so stunning and new.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ash on May 18, 2016, 03:27:04 AM
wish I could be at Cardiff but could only manage Bristol. I will just repeat that i was pretty surprised by the quality of Brian's vocals....in a good way. Been seeing him since the Paul Simon tour but from the minute he started Heroes I turned to my friend and said woah he's on it tonight. Maybe it's because i haven't seen him for a few years now, but i think that show was the best i've heard him and i've been to about 30 shows. I'm still buzzing. Wish I could go to a Brian Wilson concert every day !


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on May 18, 2016, 03:44:16 AM
I'll only have time for brief comments about the Birmingham show before heading for Cardiff for tonight's show.  The show had fantastic energy and Brian sang the sweetest GOK I believe I've heard him do.  He was amazing all through PS and did a fine job during the rest of the show.  Blondie killed it, as he always does - amazing. Al's and Matt's vocals were perfect.  I love this blend of voices so much.

What's strongest in my mind - no doubt because it was the first time I'd heard this arrangement - was Funky Pretty.  I liked it better than the original.  I hope they keep it in the setlist because it's so stunning and new.
Oh that's great to hear..  :-D Can't wait for Saturday..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 06:22:51 AM
I'll only have time for brief comments about the Birmingham show before heading for Cardiff for tonight's show.  The show had fantastic energy and Brian sang the sweetest GOK I believe I've heard him do.  He was amazing all through PS and did a fine job during the rest of the show.  Blondie killed it, as he always does - amazing. Al's and Matt's vocals were perfect.  I love this blend of voices so much.

What's strongest in my mind - no doubt because it was the first time I'd heard this arrangement - was Funky Pretty.  I liked it better than the original.  I hope they keep it in the setlist because it's so stunning and new.
Was it all not fantastic? And yeah, I loved Funky Pretty!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 18, 2016, 06:26:03 AM
wish I could be at Cardiff but could only manage Bristol. I will just repeat that i was pretty surprised by the quality of Brian's vocals....in a good way. Been seeing him since the Paul Simon tour but from the minute he started Heroes I turned to my friend and said woah he's on it tonight. Maybe it's because i haven't seen him for a few years now, but i think that show was the best i've heard him and i've been to about 30 shows. I'm still buzzing. Wish I could go to a Brian Wilson concert every day !
That would add to the quality of life! It's weird - I hadn't been to a live show befor but I've seen videos and, yeah, his voice seems to be getting better as he ages. If you chart his voice quality over time you'd get a U with a big flourish on the left.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: JK on May 18, 2016, 06:32:21 AM
Great pictures there from Cliff and Rob... :=)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on May 19, 2016, 05:59:38 AM
Serious shortage of reviews from board members on the UK part of the tour.. eagerly waiting for more  :3d


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 19, 2016, 07:25:31 AM
Cardiff review

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-brought-pet-sounds-11354677


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 19, 2016, 07:41:28 AM
A few pics from Cardiff (sorry about the quality, taken on my Phone) - Managed to write down the first set (albeit in the dark), at least I can read it AND being in the balcony noticed a couple of spare seats in the 2nd row (so i did the honorable thing and nicked one for the 2nd set)

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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 19, 2016, 07:52:02 AM
Serious shortage of reviews from board members on the UK part of the tour.. eagerly waiting for more  :3d

Sorry - most of us have been traveling to the various shows, so we're a bit behind on the reviews.  Mine will follow this link:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-brought-pet-sounds-11354677

The Cardiff show was a fine performance by Brian, Al, Matt, Blondie and band, like the one in Birmingham.  The energy and skill of this group is so amazing.  By memory, I'm thinking that the set lists were the same, but of course, there are nuances at each show that makes it special.  To see these extraordinary musicians recreate that complex recording is something no fan should miss.  I know a large number of the shows are sold out, but it's worth the effort to try to get tickets where you can.  

As Emily noted above, it was fantastic.  Their were some minor sound glitches at both shows, but they were handled quickly.  As I've been saying since last year, with the addition of Al, Matt and Blondie, Brian has his best band ever in his later years, and I started seeing him in 1964.  My friends preferred the Cardiff show slightly, and I preferred the Birmingham show slightly, but both were quite fine.

I was noticing something about this group of vocalists, that really appealed to me.  During the softer numbers, the blend was particularly sweet, and when they rocked, the vocals really rocked.  It was perfect. Of course, Matt's being family helps make the harmonies feel more organic.  Mertens wailing on sax, with Blondie and Nicky killing on guitar is so amazing to watch in the midst of the gorgeous ballads and the unique work that is Pet Sounds.  I really enjoy Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin, as well.  I'm less familiar with them, having only seen them a few times, but it all works.

The only bad news is that I've been made aware of a smear campaign about this tour appearing on the "usual suspect" Board, that normally attacks Brian. The campaign thread was made up nearly completely of people who "talked to friends" who were at Birmingham saying that Brian is clearly uncomfortable and should hang it up.  That is such a lie that it disgusts me.  Brian was clearly relaxed and he's doing what he enjoys, and my comments aren't hearsay crap.  It couldn't be more blatant what is going on there.  Everyone in he audience was thrilled that I talked to, aside from one woman.  She was complaining about "missing Foskett" and about Matt's vocals.  It was explained to me later that she has lost her band member who got her backstage passes and access to Brian in the past, so clearly she had an agenda, given who the band member was.  I hope she enjoys Klub Kokomo along with the others on that ugly thread.

The roar of the crowd at both these concerts speaks far louder than anything I can say.  

 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 19, 2016, 08:08:11 AM
Serious shortage of reviews from board members on the UK part of the tour.. eagerly waiting for more  :3d

Sorry - most of us have been traveling to the various shows, so we're a bit behind on the reviews.  Mine will follow this link:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-brought-pet-sounds-11354677

The Cardiff show was a fine performance by Brian, Al, Matt, Blondie and band, like the one in Birmingham.  The energy and skill of this group is so amazing.  By memory, I'm thinking that the set lists were the same, but of course, there are nuances at each show that makes it special.  To see these extraordinary musicians recreate that complex recording is something no fan should miss.  I know a large number of the shows are sold out, but it's worth the effort to try to get tickets where you can. 

As Emily noted above, it was fantastic.  Their were some minor sound glitches at both shows, but they were handled quickly.  As I've been saying since last year, with the addition of Al, Matt and Blondie, Brian has his best band ever in his later years, and I started seeing him in 1964.  My friends preferred the Cardiff show slightly, and I preferred the Birmingham show slightly, but both were quite fine.

I was noticing something about this group of vocalists, that really appealed to me.  During the softer numbers, the blend was particularly sweet, and when they rocked, the vocals really rocked.  It was perfect. Of course, Matt's being family helps make the harmonies feel more organic.  Mertens wailing on sax, with Blondie and Nicky killing on guitar is so amazing to watch in the midst of the gorgeous ballads and the unique work that is Pet Sounds.  I really enjoy Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin, as well.  I'm less familiar with them, having only seen them a few times, but it all works.

The only bad news is that I've been made aware of a smear campaign about this tour appearing on the "usual suspect" Board, that normally attacks Brian. The campaign thread was made up of people who "talked to friends" who were at Birmingham saying that Brian is clearly uncomfortable and should hang it up.  That is such a lie that it disgusts me.  Brian was clearly relaxed and he's doing what he enjoys, and my comments aren't hearsay crap.  It couldn't be more blatant what is going on there.  Everyone was thrilled that I talked to, aside from one woman.  She was complaining about "missing Foskett" and about Matt's vocals.  It was explained to me later that she has lost her band member who got her backstage passes and access to Brian in the past, so clearly she had an agenda, given who the band member was.  I hope she enjoys Klub Kokomo along with the others on that ugly thread.

 


I am happy that you are enjoying the shows. As many of us have seen Brian live, we know he is not the typical rock star on stage, but he more than makes up for those limitations in performance and having that fantastic band behind him. With having Brian, Al & Blondie on stage, along with Matt & Billy H., this is The Beach Boys for me, more so than Mike & Bruce.

As for the lady missing Foskett and enjoying Club Kokomo, hey, we all have agendas don't we?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 19, 2016, 08:24:18 AM
Serious shortage of reviews from board members on the UK part of the tour.. eagerly waiting for more  :3d

Sorry - most of us have been traveling to the various shows, so we're a bit behind on the reviews.  Mine will follow this link:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-brought-pet-sounds-11354677

The Cardiff show was a fine performance by Brian, Al, Matt, Blondie and band, like the one in Birmingham.  The energy and skill of this group is so amazing.  By memory, I'm thinking that the set lists were the same, but of course, there are nuances at each show that makes it special.  To see these extraordinary musicians recreate that complex recording is something no fan should miss.  I know a large number of the shows are sold out, but it's worth the effort to try to get tickets where you can. 

As Emily noted above, it was fantastic.  Their were some minor sound glitches at both shows, but they were handled quickly.  As I've been saying since last year, with the addition of Al, Matt and Blondie, Brian has his best band ever in his later years, and I started seeing him in 1964.  My friends preferred the Cardiff show slightly, and I preferred the Birmingham show slightly, but both were quite fine.

I was noticing something about this group of vocalists, that really appealed to me.  During the softer numbers, the blend was particularly sweet, and when they rocked, the vocals really rocked.  It was perfect. Of course, Matt's being family helps make the harmonies feel more organic.  Mertens wailing on sax, with Blondie and Nicky killing on guitar is so amazing to watch in the midst of the gorgeous ballads and the unique work that is Pet Sounds.  I really enjoy Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin, as well.  I'm less familiar with them, having only seen them a few times, but it all works.

The only bad news is that I've been made aware of a smear campaign about this tour appearing on the "usual suspect" Board, that normally attacks Brian. The campaign thread was made up of people who "talked to friends" who were at Birmingham saying that Brian is clearly uncomfortable and should hang it up.  That is such a lie that it disgusts me.  Brian was clearly relaxed and he's doing what he enjoys, and my comments aren't hearsay crap.  It couldn't be more blatant what is going on there.  Everyone was thrilled that I talked to, aside from one woman.  She was complaining about "missing Foskett" and about Matt's vocals.  It was explained to me later that she has lost her band member who got her backstage passes and access to Brian in the past, so clearly she had an agenda, given who the band member was.  I hope she enjoys Klub Kokomo along with the others on that ugly thread.

 


I am happy that you are enjoying the shows. As many of us have seen Brian live, we know he is not the typical rock star on stage, but he more than makes up for those limitations in performance and having that fantastic band behind him. With having Brian, Al & Blondie on stage, along with Matt & Billy H., this is The Beach Boys for me, more so than Mike & Bruce.

As for the lady missing Foskett and enjoying Club Kokomo, hey, we all have agendas don't we?

I don't care where the woman cares to hang out or with whom she associates.  But when that agenda leads to the unfounded trashing of a show that didn't deserve it, and a vocalist who doesn't deserve it, I think I have a right to speak up.  I don't even know if she's part of that ugly campaign, but I feel certain that it's being deliberately organized and I don't appreciate Brian being described as someone unhappy onstage when he clearly isn't.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 19, 2016, 09:06:18 AM
So far this week I've seen almost every published review except one from a newspaper's staff book reviewer giving glowing reviews of the shows so far. The most recent published review of the Cardiff show gave it 5 out of 5 stars. Add to that the various fan reviews from fans who are regular posters in various communities, again the majority leaning toward them having very positive comments and enthusiastic experiences at the shows. It begs the question, are people like the book reviewer and others talking about the same shows? I already gave my feelings about the book reviewer's comments. It felt like a deliberate hit piece, in my opinion. Kind of sad, really.

But what really strikes me is the small chorus of people who seem to know what is best for Brian, who seem to know what Brian wants to do or what his wishes are, and who are now suggesting Brian should consider retiring.

How about what Brian wants? How about what he said about continuing his touring in interviews and other reports? The man has said he wants to tour and perform his music for his fans, and is doing just that. I honestly don't understand how fans can continue to suggest he should retire, or quit the tour, or do anything of the sort, especially based on third- and fourth-hand information coming from whatever sources are "inside", yet seem to be clueless.

The man says he wants to perform for his fans and continue doing so, he's doing exactly that. He said he was looking forward to performing Pet Sounds this year, and most if not 99% (minus one) of the reviews and reports from the shows have been positive.

People are reporting having come away with a good feeling after experiencing these recent shows, in other words the shows featuring Brian's music made them happy, which is one of the main things Brian Wilson has said for decades that he wants to do with his music - make people happy.

But some fans on various message boards apparently know better what he should be doing, or what would really be best for him, including variations on "he should retire"? Wow.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 19, 2016, 09:32:04 AM
Serious shortage of reviews from board members on the UK part of the tour.. eagerly waiting for more  :3d

Sorry - most of us have been traveling to the various shows, so we're a bit behind on the reviews.  Mine will follow this link:

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-brought-pet-sounds-11354677

The Cardiff show was a fine performance by Brian, Al, Matt, Blondie and band, like the one in Birmingham.  The energy and skill of this group is so amazing.  By memory, I'm thinking that the set lists were the same, but of course, there are nuances at each show that makes it special.  To see these extraordinary musicians recreate that complex recording is something no fan should miss.  I know a large number of the shows are sold out, but it's worth the effort to try to get tickets where you can.  

As Emily noted above, it was fantastic.  Their were some minor sound glitches at both shows, but they were handled quickly.  As I've been saying since last year, with the addition of Al, Matt and Blondie, Brian has his best band ever in his later years, and I started seeing him in 1964.  My friends preferred the Cardiff show slightly, and I preferred the Birmingham show slightly, but both were quite fine.

I was noticing something about this group of vocalists, that really appealed to me.  During the softer numbers, the blend was particularly sweet, and when they rocked, the vocals really rocked.  It was perfect. Of course, Matt's being family helps make the harmonies feel more organic.  Mertens wailing on sax, with Blondie and Nicky killing on guitar is so amazing to watch in the midst of the gorgeous ballads and the unique work that is Pet Sounds.  I really enjoy Billy Hinsche and Gary Griffin, as well.  I'm less familiar with them, having only seen them a few times, but it all works.

The only bad news is that I've been made aware of a smear campaign about this tour appearing on the "usual suspect" Board, that normally attacks Brian. The campaign thread was made up of people who "talked to friends" who were at Birmingham saying that Brian is clearly uncomfortable and should hang it up.  That is such a lie that it disgusts me.  Brian was clearly relaxed and he's doing what he enjoys, and my comments aren't hearsay crap.  It couldn't be more blatant what is going on there.  Everyone was thrilled that I talked to, aside from one woman.  She was complaining about "missing Foskett" and about Matt's vocals.  It was explained to me later that she has lost her band member who got her backstage passes and access to Brian in the past, so clearly she had an agenda, given who the band member was.  I hope she enjoys Klub Kokomo along with the others on that ugly thread.

 


I am happy that you are enjoying the shows. As many of us have seen Brian live, we know he is not the typical rock star on stage, but he more than makes up for those limitations in performance and having that fantastic band behind him. With having Brian, Al & Blondie on stage, along with Matt & Billy H., this is The Beach Boys for me, more so than Mike & Bruce.

As for the lady missing Foskett and enjoying Club Kokomo, hey, we all have agendas don't we?

I don't care where the woman cares to hang out or with whom she associates.  But when that agenda leads to the unfounded trashing of a show that didn't deserve it, and a vocalist who doesn't deserve it, I think I have a right to speak up.  I don't even know if she's part of that ugly campaign, but I feel certain that it's being deliberately organized and I don't appreciate Brian being described as someone unhappy onstage when he clearly isn't.
She's entitled to feel however she wants and by whatever motivations she wants. As I said, everyone has an agenda. When Jeff first joined the Beach Boys, he really added the missing vocals that were lacking/missing in the live band for much of the late 70's. Once Matt was brought into the Beach Boys, I thought he matched Brian's falsetto much more closely. In Brian's band, he still more closely mirrors Brian than did Jeff.

You have to admit that Brian does not enter the stage and react to the crowd like most headliners would. Every show that I attend, someone always brings it up. Is he being forced to perform? He doesn't look like he wants to be up there. Did he hurt is back? He is walking gingerly, etc. I agree that it is up to us to let people know that that is Brian and that he does enjoy performing and that he does want to be here. I tell them that he still experiences stage fright and that he will settle in quick and put on a good show. That he wouldn't be touring for 17 years if he didn't enjoy it. I try to educate anyone who wants or cares to listen about anything concerning Brian Wilson and/or The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 19, 2016, 10:08:55 AM
So far this week I've seen almost every published review except one from a newspaper's staff book reviewer giving glowing reviews of the shows so far. The most recent published review of the Cardiff show gave it 5 out of 5 stars. Add to that the various fan reviews from fans who are regular posters in various communities, again the majority leaning toward them having very positive comments and enthusiastic experiences at the shows. It begs the question, are people like the book reviewer and others talking about the same shows? I already gave my feelings about the book reviewer's comments. It felt like a deliberate hit piece, in my opinion. Kind of sad, really.

But what really strikes me is the small chorus of people who seem to know what is best for Brian, who seem to know what Brian wants to do or what his wishes are, and who are now suggesting Brian should consider retiring.

How about what Brian wants? How about what he said about continuing his touring in interviews and other reports? The man has said he wants to tour and perform his music for his fans, and is doing just that. I honestly don't understand how fans can continue to suggest he should retire, or quit the tour, or do anything of the sort, especially based on third- and fourth-hand information coming from whatever sources are "inside", yet seem to be clueless.

The man says he wants to perform for his fans and continue doing so, he's doing exactly that. He said he was looking forward to performing Pet Sounds this year, and most if not 99% (minus one) of the reviews and reports from the shows have been positive.

People are reporting having come away with a good feeling after experiencing these recent shows, in other words the shows featuring Brian's music made them happy, which is one of the main things Brian Wilson has said for decades that he wants to do with his music - make people happy.

But some fans on various message boards apparently know better what he should be doing, or what would really be best for him, including variations on "he should retire"? Wow.

GF - If you could have seen the crowds' responses - I mean there was an actual roar for PS in Birmingham and during the final songs in Cardiff  (GOK always) - and I mean more than usual, you'd know why I'm calling bs on their crappy little campaign.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Please delete my account on May 19, 2016, 10:25:24 AM
Seeing Brian on Tuesday in Manchester, can't wait!

Have carefully avoided this thread to dodge any spoilers.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 19, 2016, 11:44:50 AM
Is there a place where we can get the approved opinions and the correct agendas so we don't have all of this "diversity" (nose in air) of opinion? Maybe a loyalty test or pledge to sign:
"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Kokomoist/Brianista Party (mark "X" next to only one)"

Maybe at the top of the "Welcome" page.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on May 19, 2016, 12:00:56 PM
Cheers Rob & Debbie....keep em comin..


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 19, 2016, 01:31:57 PM
Is there a place where we can get the approved opinions and the correct agendas so we don't have all of this "diversity" (nose in air) of opinion? Maybe a loyalty test or pledge to sign:
"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Kokomoist/Brianista Party (mark "X" next to only one)"

Maybe at the top of the "Welcome" page.

X  The Beach Boys (Independent Party)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wirestone on May 19, 2016, 01:42:57 PM
I think Brian indisputably wants to perform and is proud of his band.

I think the question he -- and everyone else -- will have to answer eventually is whether the desire to perform is enough. For a long time, if Brian really wanted to do something, and do it well, he could. As he -- and all of us -- get older, that ceases to be the case. B.B. King and Chuck Berry wanted to keep performing too, and ended up as somewhat sad, addled figures onstage.

I do not want that for Brian, or anyone connected to the band.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on May 19, 2016, 02:36:27 PM
What I think some seem to be forgetting is that Brian has throughout the last 14 years had his off nights. I'm sure most performers do and Brian has problems to contend with that most don't. The idea that Brian has been doing wonderfully throughout those 14 years and is now noticeably worse is IMO mistaken. Some nights he is better than others - that has always been true. I enjoyed the Birmingham show and at Cardiff Brian seemed even more relaxed. The audience loved it and gave warm applause and ovations.

As long as there are people who want to see him and as he is enjoying performing, what is the problem? Of course, I don't want to see a situation in which Brian's performances become weaker, more jaded and he is evidently not enjoying himself but to me that time has not come yet. And when it does come, I hope that Brian can work that out for himself.

I don't think a tour as long as this one can be convincing if Brian truly is past it. Most of the reviews I have seen so far have been good. Not all will be because this depends not just on the performer but the reviewer's own mindset. Some will miss certain band members; for some it will bring back memories of a time when they were younger, life was different. But for me, even some of the differences in Brian's voice, though not an improvement, brought more nuances of emotion to the piece. I Just Wasn't Made for These Times was brilliant, so was Caroline No. Don't Talk was so moving.

It is the last time Brian will be performing Pet Sounds. Won't last forever - I intend to enjoy it whilst I can because it is an amazing experience.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Custom Machine on May 19, 2016, 02:48:54 PM
Proud boy is Mr Dean

Brian signed Holland first UPSIDE DOWN, so I got Al (who found it funny) and Blondie to follow suit  :lol

[(http://s20.postimg.org/r2n739ja5/WP_20160516_12_48_25_Pro.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/sug5y62mx/full/)


Well, as far as the photo on the album cover is concerned, Brian signed it right-side-up. So you actually have a cool collectible that makes sense from the perspective of the album cover photo.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Custom Machine on May 19, 2016, 03:24:40 PM
Thanks, everyone, for the photos, personal reviews, and links to reviews.


The only bad news is that I've been made aware of a smear campaign about this tour appearing on the "usual suspect" Board, that normally attacks Brian. The campaign thread was made up nearly completely of people who "talked to friends" who were at Birmingham saying that Brian is clearly uncomfortable and should hang it up.  That is such a lie that it disgusts me.  Brian was clearly relaxed and he's doing what he enjoys, and my comments aren't hearsay crap.  It couldn't be more blatant what is going on there.  Everyone in he audience was thrilled that I talked to, aside from one woman.  She was complaining about "missing Foskett" and about Matt's vocals.  It was explained to me later that she has lost her band member who got her backstage passes and access to Brian in the past, so clearly she had an agenda, given who the band member was.  I hope she enjoys Klub Kokomo along with the others on that ugly thread.

The roar of the crowd at both these concerts speaks far louder than anything I can say.  


Debbie, what is the "usual suspect" board, that normally attacks Brian?



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 19, 2016, 03:43:43 PM
I would assume the reference is to the BB Britain board. There are a few posts there with the same "Brian looked like he didn't want to be there" commentaries that read *identically* to stuff I've read going all the way back to 1999. Seriously, it's like getting in a time machine reading stuff like that.

I've seen Brian however many times, a dozen or more, between 1999 and 2015 and he hasn't been too drastically better or worse at any of the shows. Some nights he's more upbeat than others. Occasionally, he's having a rough time. Remember, this is a guy who by his own admission sometimes hears auditory hallucinations during concerts. For fudge's sake man, I have trouble *listening* to music when someone is talking over it. Imagine having to *perform* with voices you have no control over.

In any event, I think questions about whether Brian's suited for touring are not all without some merit, or at least deserving of some thought or consideration. But really, I *still* stand by my feeling that, if you truly feel Brian shouldn't be out there now, then he should have *never* been out there. To suggest a 2004 or 2008 show was somehow "okay" but now he shouldn't be out touring doesn't make any sense to me.

This is also a repeat of March in Australia/New Zealand. Same thing happened. A night or two where Brian was maybe not as upbeat and run down, and I heard (from at least one of the same folks on the BB Britain board crying wolf again) the same stuff, variations on "My sources are telling me Brian looks bad and shouldn't be out there."

Have these people followed his career, and have they ever followed the trajectory of a BW tour (or many artists' tours for that matter)? There are ups and downs, and sometimes the downs are more pronounced with Brian for the myriad of *WELL KNOWN* reasons we're all familiar with. Those ups and downs have been there since 1999. It's part of the deal with Brian and his tours. If every show had him laying down on the stage like that 2007 gig with Al, then I think some harder questions would need to be asked.

I think the age issue is, DUH, slowly becoming an issue as it would with any artist. A lot of Brian's quirks and circumstances from the past had to do with the drugs, and Landy, and all of that weird stuff. I think Brian now is just running into normal "age" stuff on top of all of that other residual stuff.

I don't think Brian's going to do another 90-date tour every year for the next several years. I would venture to guess any 2017 tour will be at least a little lighter, and this 2016 tour is probably a tour length we'll never see again.

Also, no offense to any other boards, but I don't think a few cryptic negative comments on the BB Britain board are a big deal. That board gets *very little* traffic, and even less *substantive* traffic. (It's circa 1997 website design/format probably doesn't help things either; and I say that genuinely as a constructive criticism).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 19, 2016, 04:07:27 PM
After 17 years, fans on Beach Boys boards should know better than question Brian's demeanor on stage. He always has acted like that and it isn't going to change. I can understand a first timer making comments like that, but not fan boards.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 19, 2016, 04:44:42 PM
I watched the TV "news" for the first time in years last night. They showed two hundred year old women completing 100 meter dashes.
Brian's a kid!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 19, 2016, 11:46:52 PM
Some of the comments here are growing somewhat disingenuous. Brits are as entitled to their opinions as anyone else, and some of the comments being moaned about here - whether you agree with them or not, whether they're actually right or not - arise from concern for Brian's health and well-being. They're opinions, just opinions; no one's gonna be sending Brian home to bed.

A hardcore of Brit fans follow Brian - and The Beach Boys actually – to most if not all gigs on every UK tour and often fly further afield, and do have pretty good idea of his up and down, hating it/loving it, take-it-or-leave it stage demeanour.

No saying anyone needs to agree with the comments that followed the Birmingham gig but accept that folk have the right to their own opinion. And if you disagree with it, why not step up and comment on the board itself, instead of gossiping about it on another board.


Forget I ever said that. I just hope reviews will focus on the gigs, and not on the fans at the gigs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 20, 2016, 01:25:38 AM
Hey, is anyone around tonight who wants to buy a ticket for tomorrow's show?  It's Row J in the stalls, off to the side, but not up against the wall.

I'm going tonight and will need to collect the tickets from the box office.  I'll go to the show tonight, but need to skip tomorrow's show, so can let my ticket go.  It cost £86.90 in all.  Will sell for £70.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 20, 2016, 02:39:33 AM
Hey, is anyone around tonight who wants to buy a ticket for tomorrow's show?  It's Row J in the stalls, off to the side, but not up against the wall.

I'm going tonight and will need to collect the tickets from the box office.  I'll go to the show tonight, but need to skip tomorrow's show, so can let my ticket go.  It cost £86.90 in all.  Will sell for £70.



Don't need a ticket for Saturday's show, but if anyone has an extra for Friday's please let me know!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 20, 2016, 05:32:39 AM
Hey, is anyone around tonight who wants to buy a ticket for tomorrow's show?  It's Row J in the stalls, off to the side, but not up against the wall.

I'm going tonight and will need to collect the tickets from the box office.  I'll go to the show tonight, but need to skip tomorrow's show, so can let my ticket go.  It cost £86.90 in all.  Will sell for £70.


To add, if a would-be purchaser can't pick it up tonight, I'm okay to meet somewhere in London tomorrow.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 20, 2016, 06:19:11 AM
Is there a place where we can get the approved opinions and the correct agendas so we don't have all of this "diversity" (nose in air) of opinion? Maybe a loyalty test or pledge to sign:
"I am not now, nor have I ever been, a member of the Kokomoist/Brianista Party (mark "X" next to only one)"

Maybe at the top of the "Welcome" page.

X  The Beach Boys (Independent Party)

Apparently not an option.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 20, 2016, 07:24:32 AM
Some of the comments here are growing somewhat disingenuous. Brits are as entitled to their opinions as anyone else, and some of the comments being moaned about here - whether you agree with them or not, whether they're actually right or not - arise from concern for Brian's health and well-being. They're opinions, just opinions; no one's gonna be sending Brian home to bed.

A hardcore of Brit fans follow Brian - and The Beach Boys actually – to most if not all gigs on every UK tour and often fly further afield, and do have pretty good idea of his up and down, hating it/loving it, take-it-or-leave it stage demeanour.

No saying anyone needs to agree with the comments that followed the Birmingham gig but accept that folk have the right to their own opinion. And if you disagree with it, why not step up and comment on the board itself, instead of gossiping about it on another board.


Forget I ever said that. I just hope reviews will focus on the gigs, and not on the fans at the gigs.

I agree, and I think the problem with a very small smattering of internet commentary is that a quick comment, with no context, stating something like "The people I talked to at the gig last night saw things that were troubling" is nothing but a focus on some fans at the gig. That these comments can come from someone who wasn't at the show in question, not to mention that the comments are sometimes predictably cryptic and arguably hyperbolic, is what is troubling.

Nobody is saying everybody isn't entitled to their opinion. I just weigh the opinion accordingly. "Some fans I talked to who were at the gig last night saw some troubling things" is not a comment I'm going to give very much weight, for numerous reasons.

Not only have I seen Brian over a dozen times, I've been at arguably his most controversial gig/incident (the 2007 show where he decided to lay down on stage in the middle of the show), so I've seen how people who WEREN'T at the show in question will quickly run with vague reports that are either partly or wholly inaccurate and quickly paint a "sky is falling" scenario. Within *hours* of that 2007 gig, I saw "Brian collapses at show; he shouldn't be on tour anymore" posts from people who weren't there.

That 2007 gig was a good example of where context and even-handedness was important. I was suspicious of incorrect "Brian passed out on stage, his touring days are over" comments, and I would have also been troubled by any sunshiney "Brian's *fine*, there was *nothing* weird about that show last night" sorts of comments. That incident was weird; it was telling of something more than Brian "eating a bad burrito" as Foskett said. But it wasn't a "sky is falling" scenario either. And believe me, I say that as someone who was at the show and did have a brief moment of thinking "Did I really just witness Brian Wilson's last concert?"

If I see a review in 2016 of a Brian show directly from someone who was there, and who can articulate both their level of familiarity with Brian and the nuances of the show they saw, that's the sort of review I'll give more weight to.

Further, at least one well known person who has been running with this "Talked to some fans and what they saw was troubling" commentary is someone who I've seen do this numerous times in the past, and I've disagreed with their characterization and interpretation of what they're seeing on stage. It's just more of the "an impeccable source has informed me......" innuendo stuff. And yeah, sometimes I wonder if those types of commentaries occasionally go past the "opinion with questionable context" category and more into a predisposition to set out to paint Brian's "camp" in a poor light.  


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 20, 2016, 07:33:17 AM
Honestly it seems like a small minority are saying these 'Brian is over' sorts of things and they seem to all be related to one show. Don't know what's up there, but you're right, Hey Jude, that context of commentary matters.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 07:53:40 AM
Honestly it seems like a small minority are saying these 'Brian is over' sorts of things and they seem to all be related to one show. Don't know what's up there, but you're right, Hey Jude, that context of commentary matters.
Also, a lot of smack gets talked about on these boards. I rarely trust any info here or anywhere else unless I know and trust the person who's fingers are typing the info supplied.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 08:04:38 AM
"I heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from...'


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on May 20, 2016, 08:13:58 AM
Not only have I seen Brian over a dozen times, I've been at arguably his most controversial gig/incident (the 2007 show where he decided to lay down on stage in the middle of the show), so I've seen how people who WEREN'T at the show in question will quickly run with vague reports that are either partly or wholly inaccurate and quickly paint a "sky is falling" scenario. Within *hours* of that 2007 gig, I saw "Brian collapses at show; he shouldn't be on tour anymore" posts from people who weren't there.

That 2007 gig was a good example of where context and even-handedness was important. I was suspicious of incorrect "Brian passed out on stage, his touring days are over" comments, and I would have also been troubled by any sunshiney "Brian's *fine*, there was *nothing* weird about that show last night" sorts of comments. That incident was weird; it was telling of something more than Brian "eating a bad burrito" as Foskett said. But it wasn't a "sky is falling" scenario either. And believe me, I say that as someone who was at the show and did have a brief moment of thinking "Did I really just witness Brian Wilson's last concert?"

Where was this? Is there video of this show available?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 20, 2016, 08:36:30 AM
Not only have I seen Brian over a dozen times, I've been at arguably his most controversial gig/incident (the 2007 show where he decided to lay down on stage in the middle of the show), so I've seen how people who WEREN'T at the show in question will quickly run with vague reports that are either partly or wholly inaccurate and quickly paint a "sky is falling" scenario. Within *hours* of that 2007 gig, I saw "Brian collapses at show; he shouldn't be on tour anymore" posts from people who weren't there.

That 2007 gig was a good example of where context and even-handedness was important. I was suspicious of incorrect "Brian passed out on stage, his touring days are over" comments, and I would have also been troubled by any sunshiney "Brian's *fine*, there was *nothing* weird about that show last night" sorts of comments. That incident was weird; it was telling of something more than Brian "eating a bad burrito" as Foskett said. But it wasn't a "sky is falling" scenario either. And believe me, I say that as someone who was at the show and did have a brief moment of thinking "Did I really just witness Brian Wilson's last concert?"

Where was this? Is there video of this show available?

Nope. I was there, but there's no extant recording of it that I know of, certainly no video (dunno if an audience recording is out there, if so, I haven't heard though would love to as it was otherwise a really good show).

I think there used to be a few YouTube clips of the show (this was 2007, so I think it was shot in really crummy quality on an old flip phone or something), but even those clips didn't have any of the mid-show incident.

It was June 11, 2007 at The Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA. Al was at the show as an unannounced guest. Near the mid-point of the show (there was no scheduled intermission), near the end of a song (trying to remember which, maybe "Sloop John B" or "I Get Around"), Brian stood up and just kind of sat down on the stage behind Al. My recollection is that he kind of plopped on the ground sitting with his legs extended straight out, but did so purposefully (he didn't appear to have collapsed or passed out). The deliberate nature (or appearance of such) as he did meant the rest of the band actually didn't appear too concerned. My recollection is that once the song ended, Al turned around and looked down to Brian and said something like "Hey Brian, you ok?" I remember Al seeming slightly more visually concerned than the rest of the band. Brian got up, went back to his seat at his keyboard, and said something like "I've just had a fainting spell. I don't know if I can continue with the show." He had a look on his face that was painful to see; my interpretation of it was that he was scared about not being able to finish the show, like he'd be in trouble for it or something (not like the promoter would take him backstage and yell at him or something, but just all of the normal problems an artist would run into if they aborted a show). He didn't look particularly ill or particularly wobbly or anything; he obviously seemed somewhat low in energy. My main memory is Brian saying "I don't know if I can continue the show" (or "I don't think I can continue the show", something along those lines), followed by a LOOOONG awkward silence from the audience and the band.

I was already prepping for the strong possibility that we'd be heading home at that point, only 15 or so songs into the show. I honestly wasn't super concerned about Brian's immediate physical health or anything. I was obviously concerned in general. But it wasn't like he fell off the stage unconscious or something. He seemed to have all his faculties and was moving around; it clearly wasn't a heart attack or anything. As I said, despite Brian calling it a "fainting" spell, it didn't even look like *that.*

At that point, the band (including Gary Griffin and Billy Hinsche who were fill-ins on this tour, so no Darian) didn't seem to be taking any action. After a few more moments of awkwardness, it was Al who seemed to take charge a bit and called for an intermission. I think the band and crew were thrown for a loop, because this tour didn't have any scheduled intermissions.

After an extended intermission, Brian came back out with the band. I believe he said some words, though I can't remember. I do remember Foskett doing his best to brush it off with humor, mentioning that Brian "ate a bad burrito."

Brian finished the set, with interestingly extra energy and zeal. After the show, the tour bus whisked him straight away driving through the section where fans exit the hilled area, and he rolled his window down and energetically waved to the fans.

Sorry for the extended story time.

The general point was that the incident was not without some weirdness, and did raise some questions I feel were worth asking. But it was also an example of “purple monkey dishwasher” style “a friend of a friend of a friend” speculation afterwards as well.(See "The Simpsons" for more on that reference!  :3d )

The incident is briefly referenced in Jon Stebbins’s “FAQ” book as well.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Douchepool on May 20, 2016, 08:38:16 AM
Having heard some recordings of the latest tour (with plans to see Brian on 9/23 if money, work, school, and free time allows), Brian does sound pretty good, as does the band as usual. I'm a smidge biased, though; Brian hasn't sounded as good or seemed as fun as he was in 2009. I don't know if it was just catching Brian in a venue he liked or if something else was the cause. Not that he's bad now by any means; 2009 was just the apex.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 20, 2016, 08:46:10 AM
Not only have I seen Brian over a dozen times, I've been at arguably his most controversial gig/incident (the 2007 show where he decided to lay down on stage in the middle of the show), so I've seen how people who WEREN'T at the show in question will quickly run with vague reports that are either partly or wholly inaccurate and quickly paint a "sky is falling" scenario. Within *hours* of that 2007 gig, I saw "Brian collapses at show; he shouldn't be on tour anymore" posts from people who weren't there.

That 2007 gig was a good example of where context and even-handedness was important. I was suspicious of incorrect "Brian passed out on stage, his touring days are over" comments, and I would have also been troubled by any sunshiney "Brian's *fine*, there was *nothing* weird about that show last night" sorts of comments. That incident was weird; it was telling of something more than Brian "eating a bad burrito" as Foskett said. But it wasn't a "sky is falling" scenario either. And believe me, I say that as someone who was at the show and did have a brief moment of thinking "Did I really just witness Brian Wilson's last concert?"

Where was this? Is there video of this show available?

Nope. I was there, but there's no extant recording of it that I know of, certainly no video (dunno if an audience recording is out there, if so, I haven't heard though would love to as it was otherwise a really good show).

I think there used to be a few YouTube clips of the show (this was 2007, so I think it was shot in really crummy quality on an old flip phone or something), but even those clips didn't have any of the mid-show incident.

It was June 11, 2007 at The Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA. Al was at the show as an unannounced guest. Near the mid-point of the show (there was no scheduled intermission), near the end of a song (trying to remember which, maybe "Sloop John B" or "I Get Around"), Brian stood up and just kind of sat down on the stage behind Al. My recollection is that he kind of plopped on the ground sitting with his legs extended straight out, but did so purposefully (he didn't appear to have collapsed or passed out). The deliberate nature (or appearance of such) as he did meant the rest of the band actually didn't appear too concerned. My recollection is that once the song ended, Al turned around and looked down to Brian and said something like "Hey Brian, you ok?" I remember Al seeming slightly more visually concerned than the rest of the band. Brian got up, went back to his seat at his keyboard, and said something like "I've just had a fainting spell. I don't know if I can continue with the show." He had a look on his face that was painful to see; my interpretation of it was that he was scared about not being able to finish the show, like he'd be in trouble for it or something (not like the promoter would take him backstage and yell at him or something, but just all of the normal problems an artist would run into if they aborted a show). He didn't look particularly ill or particularly wobbly or anything; he obviously seemed somewhat low in energy. My main memory is Brian saying "I don't know if I can continue the show" (or "I don't think I can continue the show", something along those lines), followed by a LOOOONG awkward silence from the audience and the band.

I was already prepping for the strong possibility that we'd be heading home at that point, only 15 or so songs into the show. I honestly wasn't super concerned about Brian's immediate physical health or anything. I was obviously concerned in general. But it wasn't like he fell off the stage unconscious or something. He seemed to have all his faculties and was moving around; it clearly wasn't a heart attack or anything. As I said, despite Brian calling it a "fainting" spell, it didn't even look like *that.*

At that point, the band (including Gary Griffin and Billy Hinsche who were fill-ins on this tour, so no Darian) didn't seem to be taking any action. After a few more moments of awkwardness, it was Al who seemed to take charge a bit and called for an intermission. I think the band and crew were thrown for a loop, because this tour didn't have any scheduled intermissions.

After an extended intermission, Brian came back out with the band. I believe he said some words, though I can't remember. I do remember Foskett doing his best to brush it off with humor, mentioning that Brian "ate a bad burrito."

Brian finished the set, with interestingly extra energy and zeal. After the show, the tour bus whisked him straight away driving through the section where fans exit the hilled area, and he rolled his window down and energetically waved to the fans.

Sorry for the extended story time.

The general point was that the incident was not without some weirdness, and did raise some questions I feel were worth asking. But it was also an example of “purple monkey dishwasher” style “a friend of a friend of a friend” speculation afterwards as well.(See "The Simpsons" for more on that reference!  :3d )

The incident is briefly referenced in Jon Stebbins’s “FAQ” book as well.



That all sounds like a normal reaction to a very public fainting spell imo. You get to the floor where you think you might be ending up soon anyway and do it near your oldest nearest friend. I imagine that is more or less what any of us would do.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 20, 2016, 08:55:59 AM
Some of the comments here are growing somewhat disingenuous. Brits are as entitled to their opinions as anyone else, and some of the comments being moaned about here - whether you agree with them or not, whether they're actually right or not - arise from concern for Brian's health and well-being. They're opinions, just opinions; no one's gonna be sending Brian home to bed.

A hardcore of Brit fans follow Brian - and The Beach Boys actually – to most if not all gigs on every UK tour and often fly further afield, and do have pretty good idea of his up and down, hating it/loving it, take-it-or-leave it stage demeanour.

No saying anyone needs to agree with the comments that followed the Birmingham gig but accept that folk have the right to their own opinion. And if you disagree with it, why not step up and comment on the board itself, instead of gossiping about it on another board.


Forget I ever said that. I just hope reviews will focus on the gigs, and not on the fans at the gigs.

Well said John!

The thing that bothers me is that certain people who have never met some of the UK fans feel they can call them out for expressing concern about Brian.  You and I (and the others alluded to) have spent fortunes over the years following Brian all over the place, and then because some express an opinion they are accused of having an agenda and trying to sabotage the tour.  Ridiculous!   If I wanted to 'sabotage' a tour I wouldn't spend hundreds (thousands over the years) going to see Brian.  I don't think others would either.  If you listen to the conspiracy theorists you would think Brian sounded like the guy from the Lost Concert Show.  He doesn't.  He can still sound good but there are times (and even positive reviews of the show will mention it) when he doesn't sound so good.  It doesn't matter to me.  I love the guy and would give him a standing ovation for him just being on stage, the music over the years, the struggles he's overcome etc.  I'm sure most here would feel the same.  He deserves our support and feeds off it on stage.  I addressed the back problem in another post (maybe just to do with sitting for a while on stage.  No big deal once he's up and moving about).  But people are still allowed to express concern without ridicule.  Some of the stuff here is ironic.  People getting all hot and bothered that someone heard from a friend that Brian had an off night but on the other hand, others hear Brian had a great night from someone else and that's cool!  The only reviews we can believe are the good ones.  The negative ones must be written by folk who haven't got a clue.  Where's the middle ground?

I'm just going to savour every show and let Brian know how thankful I am by going along and having a great time!

Can everybody please stop trying to take sides and just get along?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 08:57:37 AM

Also, no offense to any other boards, but I don't think a few cryptic negative comments on the BB Britain board are a big deal. That board gets *very little* traffic, and even less *substantive* traffic. (It's circa 1997 website design/format probably doesn't help things either; and I say that genuinely as a constructive criticism).

I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 20, 2016, 09:19:33 AM
Except when people post their opinions about the music (See NPP discussions) or Brian's shows which aren't to the liking of some then they are accused of having 'agendas'.  It cuts both ways.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 20, 2016, 09:20:05 AM

Also, no offense to any other boards, but I don't think a few cryptic negative comments on the BB Britain board are a big deal. That board gets *very little* traffic, and even less *substantive* traffic. (It's circa 1997 website design/format probably doesn't help things either; and I say that genuinely as a constructive criticism).

I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.



Happens here too...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 09:36:52 AM

Also, no offense to any other boards, but I don't think a few cryptic negative comments on the BB Britain board are a big deal. That board gets *very little* traffic, and even less *substantive* traffic. (It's circa 1997 website design/format probably doesn't help things either; and I say that genuinely as a constructive criticism).

I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.


You really shouldn't be surprised by this at all. You had this board in such a state that some folks felt threatened to say what was on their mind in here. Folks will go where they have a voice. You had a hand in banning from some pretty popular posters in here, it was bound to over flow onto other boards when the ban-hammer here was hovering so close to them. You have become the Love You of Smiley Smile. They either love you or hate you, no in between.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 20, 2016, 09:55:59 AM
On fainting - it could well have been a fainting spell. I came across  the aftermath of a motorcycle accident a few weeks ago and someone pointed out the body under a blanket about 50 feet from me. I was standing there, then felt dizzy, then I woke up sitting on the ground where I was standing with a few people asking me if I was OK. Apparently, to them, it looked like I'd just suddenly sat down on the sidewalk. But I wasn't conscious of doing it.

On reviews/comments - I've no problem with a fair negative review or comment - people's taste is their own. But the comments about age and retiring (not only about BW but other touring older people) bother me a bit. Rock hasn't been just for the young since the first generation of rock fans stopped being young. And I think older artists (or people in any field) should keep working as long as they want and as long as others are interested. For musicians, that would be as long as people buy tickets.

Some personal comments about Brian Wilson's well-being also bother me. Saying, "he seemed to have a bad night" is one thing. But saying, "he shouldn't be touring. He doesn't seem like he wants to be there" is implying something really bad about everyone who works with him and, without evidence, I don't think that's fair.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 20, 2016, 09:58:47 AM
I think if you don't know what Brian's like by now, you probably shouldn't be reviewing his shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jim V. on May 20, 2016, 10:04:29 AM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 10:06:25 AM
On fainting - it could well have been a fainting spell. I came across  the aftermath of a motorcycle accident a few weeks ago and someone pointed out the body under a blanket about 50 feet from me. I was standing there, then felt dizzy, then I woke up sitting on the ground where I was standing with a few people asking me if I was OK. Apparently, to them, it looked like I'd just suddenly sat down on the sidewalk. But I wasn't conscious of doing it.

On reviews/comments - I've no problem with a fair negative review or comment - people's taste is their own. But the comments about age and retiring (not only about BW but other touring older people) bother me a bit. Rock hasn't been just for the young since the first generation of rock fans stopped being young. And I think older artists (or people in any field) should keep working as long as they want and as long as others are interested. For musicians, that would be as long as people buy tickets.

Some personal comments about Brian Wilson's well-being also bother me. Saying, "he seemed to have a bad night" is one thing. But saying, "he shouldn't be touring. He doesn't seem like he wants to be there" is implying something really bad about everyone who works with him and, without evidence, I don't think that's fair.
I don't know how many Brian shows that you have attended, but those comments happen at every show. At intermissions I usually talk to folks who are out smoking or whatever, and newer fans will always asked those questions.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 20, 2016, 10:20:40 AM
On fainting - it could well have been a fainting spell. I came across  the aftermath of a motorcycle accident a few weeks ago and someone pointed out the body under a blanket about 50 feet from me. I was standing there, then felt dizzy, then I woke up sitting on the ground where I was standing with a few people asking me if I was OK. Apparently, to them, it looked like I'd just suddenly sat down on the sidewalk. But I wasn't conscious of doing it.

On reviews/comments - I've no problem with a fair negative review or comment - people's taste is their own. But the comments about age and retiring (not only about BW but other touring older people) bother me a bit. Rock hasn't been just for the young since the first generation of rock fans stopped being young. And I think older artists (or people in any field) should keep working as long as they want and as long as others are interested. For musicians, that would be as long as people buy tickets.

Some personal comments about Brian Wilson's well-being also bother me. Saying, "he seemed to have a bad night" is one thing. But saying, "he shouldn't be touring. He doesn't seem like he wants to be there" is implying something really bad about everyone who works with him and, without evidence, I don't think that's fair.
I don't know how many Brian shows that you have attended, but those comments happen at every show. At intermissions I usually talk to folks who are out smoking or whatever, and newer fans will always asked those questions.
Unfortunately for me, I've attended one.  :-[


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 10:53:34 AM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 11:07:11 AM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 20, 2016, 11:14:47 AM
Regarding fainting, I certainly don't profess to be an expert and I'm guessing based on the point of view from the audience it would be hard to tell what exactly was going on even if one were a doctor. I'm guessing, and I emphasize it's a guess, is that it may have been near-fainting, perhaps what doctors call presyncope.

In any event, my main point was that it was exaggerated immediately after the show by people that weren't there. It quickly turned into a game of telephone and I remember on various boards seeing the incident characterized as Brian actually collapsing on stage, like he just pitched over and hit the floor already unconscious.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 11:15:58 AM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wantsomecorn on May 20, 2016, 11:27:27 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on May 20, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
Excited to hear about the London shows, they are always special


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 11:32:48 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?

I'm looking forward to reading more comments from those who are seeing the shows this week, for sure! That doesn't mean other lingering issues can't be addressed if they come up, then people discuss, then it gets back on topic. Just like any conversation normally would do.  :)  No one needs to police that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 11:39:33 AM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 11:40:49 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?
A Mod redirected it in the first place.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 11:47:56 AM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 11:50:47 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?
A Mod redirected it in the first place.

Wrong. A mod responded to other posts that came before.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 12:04:51 PM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?
A Mod redirected it in the first place.

Wrong. A mod responded to other posts that came before.
How is what is written about Brian, then turned to you being persecuted on another board? I can understand how it could happen.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 12:13:18 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 12:19:11 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 12:23:15 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.
Oh, the high Intrigues that go one here at Smiley Smile.

Please do fill us in. Man, this is better than the National Enquirer.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: D409 on May 20, 2016, 12:29:37 PM
Any danger of this going back on topic, please, mods ?

Actually, I know the answer to this question - there will be some reports from London soon, so hopefully that'll steer things in the right direction...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 20, 2016, 12:38:14 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 20, 2016, 12:42:30 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.
I totally romanticize Scotland.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jim V. on May 20, 2016, 01:04:09 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.
Oh, the high Intrigues that go one here at Smiley Smile.

Please do fill us in. Man, this is better than the National Enquirer.

I'm gonna be totally honest about this...

THIS IS A FUCKIN' MESSAGE BOARD! This isn't the Pentagon or the Mob or some super serious thing! I think some people are taking themselves way, way, way too frickin' seriously about this stuff, with people apparently "out to get" people that they don't even really know in day-to-day life? Really? I'll admit I've had some run-ins with some people on these boards such as the deplorable Ian Wagner and the heinous Mam Cott. But even then, I never would take it far enough to get into "conspiracy" or whatever. It's outta hand.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 20, 2016, 01:20:32 PM
Jim, remember Phil Cohen?  I remember his spats with AGD and conspiracies.  Wonder if he knows Andrew is banned?

I agree with you, it's all very tiresome.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 01:21:31 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.
I totally romanticize Scotland.
I'm betting you watch Outlander? ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 20, 2016, 01:23:23 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.
I totally romanticize Scotland.

Emily, have you ever been here to visit? You'd love it!

John, are you going to the Glasgow Meet and Greet?  

I'll also be in Edinburgh?  Anyone else?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 20, 2016, 02:18:17 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.
I totally romanticize Scotland.
I'm betting you watch Outlander? ;)
No - never heard of it til now. I just looked it up. Obviously not enough TV in my life!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 20, 2016, 02:20:30 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.
I totally romanticize Scotland.

Emily, have you ever been here to visit? You'd love it!

John, are you going to the Glasgow Meet and Greet?  

I'll also be in Edinburgh?  Anyone else?
I've never been. Closest I've been is Yorkshire the Lake District. My friend's husband's cousin is Scottish though - does that count? :-)
I've seen a number of Scottish films and read Scottish literature and read the history and seen plenty of photos. All indicators point to me loving it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 20, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.
I totally romanticize Scotland.

Emily, have you ever been here to visit? You'd love it!

John, are you going to the Glasgow Meet and Greet? 

I'll also be in Edinburgh?  Anyone else?

No meet n' greet, for reasons previously ranted! :) Glasgow's also my only gig his time around due to family commitments and finances. Hope to see you there Mikedonn!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 02:38:26 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.
Oh, the high Intrigues that go one here at Smiley Smile.

Please do fill us in. Man, this is better than the National Enquirer.

I'm gonna be totally honest about this...

THIS IS A FUCKIN' MESSAGE BOARD! This isn't the Pentagon or the Mob or some super serious thing! I think some people are taking themselves way, way, way too frickin' seriously about this stuff, with people apparently "out to get" people that they don't even really know in day-to-day life? Really? I'll admit I've had some run-ins with some people on these boards such as the deplorable Ian Wagner and the heinous Mam Cott. But even then, I never would take it far enough to get into "conspiracy" or whatever. It's outta hand.

My point exactly. It's ultimately a fuckin' message board to most who are involved and have been members since it started. Which is why I wondered just like you why people were so bent on trying to influence the way it exists, being out to get someone they don't know or ever met in real life, or why so much effort was put into organizing and trying to execute a plan to "get" someone at all. Because of what? Things said, done, or not done to satisfaction on a message board?

Exactly Jim, it's a fuckin' message board. But maybe to some it has more interest than what is on the surface. You'll have to ask them why all the effort if it's just a message board.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on May 20, 2016, 03:23:38 PM
Puh-leeze somebody post about the first London concert or other reports about previous concerts!

This topic is supposed to be about the Love and Mercy Brian is presenting to us!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 20, 2016, 03:26:44 PM
I'd just like to state that I formed my own opinion about the moderating here; didn't sign up to any conspiracy.

I'm looking forward to Friday's Glasgow show but probably won't bother posting my thoughts.
I totally romanticize Scotland.

Emily, have you ever been here to visit? You'd love it!

John, are you going to the Glasgow Meet and Greet?  

I'll also be in Edinburgh?  Anyone else?
I've never been. Closest I've been is Yorkshire the Lake District. My friend's husband's cousin is Scottish though - does that count? :-)

Hip, that counts!  ;D.

The Lake District is nice too!

John, I know what you mean.  I thought long and hard about it but figured I would regret it if I didn't more than I would if I did! I'll keep an eye out for you.  I'm in the balcony for the Glasgow show.  It was the best I could get within minutes of them going on sale!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 20, 2016, 03:27:10 PM
Puh-leeze somebody post about the first London concert or other reports about previous concerts!

This topic is supposed to be about the Love and Mercy Brian is presenting to us!

I'm waiting for the reports to come in from London and the other shows too!  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: DC310 on May 20, 2016, 04:00:01 PM
All of these posts NOT about Brian's current tour should be moved.  I clicked here to read about tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Theydon Bois on May 20, 2016, 04:10:26 PM
Puh-leeze somebody post about the first London concert or other reports about previous concerts!

This topic is supposed to be about the Love and Mercy Brian is presenting to us!

Don't worry guys, I'll take this.

Just back from the London Palladium.  Lots to enjoy.  "Add Some Music" was the first one that really hit me, but by no means the last.

Somehow one of my contact lenses contrived to fall out at the end of "Sloop John B", and I tried to put it back in but we were into "God Only Knows" and I found that there was some unhelpful water in my eye for some reason, so instead I just squinted at the stage, my one working eye marvelling at the miracle of Brian's one working ear.

Al and Blondie are phenomenal, and Matt J a remarkable addition.  I've seen Brian in better voice than tonight (C50 Wembley, to name but one) but please don't stick me in a box with the innuendo-spreaders for saying it, I still love the dude.  Nelson Bragg appears to have morphed gradually into Robyn Hitchcock, his shirt going some way towards sealing the deal.  I did miss Darian and that other keyboard guy but enough said.

Spotted in the audience: the actor Kevin Eldon.  I think the number of gigs that I've been to where I've seen members of the cast of This Morning With Richard Not Judy in the audience must now number in double figures.  This paragraph is unlikely to be of much assistance to American readers.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 04:16:20 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.
Oh, the high Intrigues that go one here at Smiley Smile.

Please do fill us in. Man, this is better than the National Enquirer.

I'm gonna be totally honest about this...

THIS IS A FUCKIN' MESSAGE BOARD! This isn't the Pentagon or the Mob or some super serious thing! I think some people are taking themselves way, way, way too frickin' seriously about this stuff, with people apparently "out to get" people that they don't even really know in day-to-day life? Really? I'll admit I've had some run-ins with some people on these boards such as the deplorable Ian Wagner and the heinous Mam Cott. But even then, I never would take it far enough to get into "conspiracy" or whatever. It's outta hand.

My point exactly. It's ultimately a fuckin' message board to most who are involved and have been members since it started. Which is why I wondered just like you why people were so bent on trying to influence the way it exists, being out to get someone they don't know or ever met in real life, or why so much effort was put into organizing and trying to execute a plan to "get" someone at all. Because of what? Things said, done, or not done to satisfaction on a message board?

Exactly Jim, it's a fuckin' message board. But maybe to some it has more interest than what is on the surface. You'll have to ask them why all the effort if it's just a message board.
Sorry Craig, you are the one spouting conspiracy theories, not any of us. I was just wondering if it was a coincidence or not regarding the many bannings since you became a mod. Mostly all folks that you had personal issues with at some point.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on May 20, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
Good show tonight.

I used to watch YouTube videos from the early 90s of Matt J singing with The Beach Boys, to have now seen him sing for real is something to be very grateful for.  They should add Hushabye to the set.  Matt thanks so much for Don't Worry Baby.  And your Dad was fab also (he made a little comment about Matt playing with The Beach Boys way back then but "thinking better of it" and joining this band instead - note I'm not intending to stir the pot, just to share an amusing story)

I thought Brian started off very strongly for H&V with a variable vocal performance through the rest of the show, but on the whole good, and some decent between song commentary.

Loved Al on Shut Down, loved the deep cuts Wake The World and Funky Pretty.  Blondie is simply a boss.

Nice that they included a new song (One Kind a Of Love), although the tempo seemed a little rushed to me.

I did miss Darian but hey.

I'm not sure that I've seen Brian perform since C50, where is the time going.  I've been on this juggernaut for just over 10 years now, in many ways it feels like a measure of how little I have moved my life on, oops.  I remember seeing Pet Sounds at The Adelphi in 2006 for the 40th, I think it was my second or third show (first being Brighton 2005).  A lot to be grateful for ever since.  Blondie Chaplin singing Sail On Sailor with The Brian Wilson band in 2016? Wat!

Sorry for the stream of consciousness...I think I might visit the USA for the final leg of the tour, I've never been ya know.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jukka on May 20, 2016, 04:43:07 PM
Great show, the main guy seemed to be feelin' it, talking and gesturing. Al was so great it hurt. Blondie sang his three songs just fine, but his rockin' moves did feel a tad over the top in this context... But hey, the guy's a rocker, he can't help himself! The harmonies were a bit ragged at times (compared to 2012 reunion gig), but that didn't really bother me. Soulful singing from everyone involved.

More in-depth analysis coming later. Do not miss these shows!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on May 20, 2016, 04:43:58 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.
Oh, the high Intrigues that go one here at Smiley Smile.

Please do fill us in. Man, this is better than the National Enquirer.

I'm gonna be totally honest about this...

THIS IS A FUCKIN' MESSAGE BOARD! This isn't the Pentagon or the Mob or some super serious thing! I think some people are taking themselves way, way, way too frickin' seriously about this stuff, with people apparently "out to get" people that they don't even really know in day-to-day life? Really? I'll admit I've had some run-ins with some people on these boards such as the deplorable Ian Wagner and the heinous Mam Cott. But even then, I never would take it far enough to get into "conspiracy" or whatever. It's outta hand.

My point exactly. It's ultimately a fuckin' message board to most who are involved and have been members since it started. Which is why I wondered just like you why people were so bent on trying to influence the way it exists, being out to get someone they don't know or ever met in real life, or why so much effort was put into organizing and trying to execute a plan to "get" someone at all. Because of what? Things said, done, or not done to satisfaction on a message board?

Exactly Jim, it's a fuckin' message board. But maybe to some it has more interest than what is on the surface. You'll have to ask them why all the effort if it's just a message board.

Just back from the first London concert.  Brian was really into descriptions of details about his creation of the various songs in Pet Sounds as he introduced them.  This will be quick, since I have to get to other things, but it was - simply - another excellent show with outstanding musicians.  It was the same set list as Birmingham and Cardiff.  Due to my seats near amps, I can't comment on the sound effectively, but the minor glitches in Birmingham and Cardiff seemed to be corrected.  Tomorrow night I have much better seats.

It's cute how you're being portrayed as a "conspiracy theorist" here when you obviously have information regarding the campaign against you, or you'd have said nothing.  I'm also very clear about the recent campaign to attack the British leg of Brian's tour by a certain group on that same sad little board.  Like you said, I'd love to know their motivation, and where they get their information.  We've been hearing this "Brian looks frail" and "shouldn't be forced to tour" crap for 12 years now, by the same person in the UK, or one of her "friends."  It has become more than tiresome.  You just have to wonder what the point is.  It's odd that these supposed fans are so devoted to Brian not touring anymore, when he's made it clear that he wants to, the shows are selling out, and the crowds are enthusiastic.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 04:44:03 PM
Good show tonight.

I used to watch YouTube videos from the early 90s of Matt J singing with The Beach Boys, to have now seen him sing for real is something to be very grateful for.  They should add Hushabye to the set.  Matt thanks so much for Don't Worry Baby.  And your Dad was fab also (he made a little comment about Matt playing with The Beach Boys way back then but "thinking better of it" and joining this band instead - note I'm not intending to stir the pot, just to share an amusing story)

I thought Brian started off very strongly for H&V with a variable vocal performance through the rest of the show, but on the whole good, and some decent between song commentary.

Loved Al on Shut Down, loved the deep cuts Wake The World and Funky Pretty.  Blondie is simply a boss.

Nice that they included a new song (One Kind a Of Love), although the tempo seemed a little rushed to me.

I did miss Darian but hey.

I'm not sure that I've seen Brian perform since C50, where is the time going.  I've been on this juggernaut for just over 10 years now, in many ways it feels like a measure of how little I have moved my life on, oops.  I remember seeing Pet Sounds at The Adelphi in 2006 for the 40th, I think it was my second or third show (first being Brighton 2005).  A lot to be grateful for ever since.  Blondie Chaplin singing Sail On Sailor with The Brian Wilson band in 2016? Wat!

Sorry for the stream of consciousness...I think I might visit the USA for the final leg of the tour, I've never been ya know.
It sounds like a great evening. How did Funky Pretty come off? Was it closer to the studio version or the live In Concert arrangement?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 20, 2016, 04:48:24 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.
Oh, the high Intrigues that go one here at Smiley Smile.

Please do fill us in. Man, this is better than the National Enquirer.

I'm gonna be totally honest about this...

THIS IS A FUCKIN' MESSAGE BOARD! This isn't the Pentagon or the Mob or some super serious thing! I think some people are taking themselves way, way, way too frickin' seriously about this stuff, with people apparently "out to get" people that they don't even really know in day-to-day life? Really? I'll admit I've had some run-ins with some people on these boards such as the deplorable Ian Wagner and the heinous Mam Cott. But even then, I never would take it far enough to get into "conspiracy" or whatever. It's outta hand.

My point exactly. It's ultimately a fuckin' message board to most who are involved and have been members since it started. Which is why I wondered just like you why people were so bent on trying to influence the way it exists, being out to get someone they don't know or ever met in real life, or why so much effort was put into organizing and trying to execute a plan to "get" someone at all. Because of what? Things said, done, or not done to satisfaction on a message board?

Exactly Jim, it's a fuckin' message board. But maybe to some it has more interest than what is on the surface. You'll have to ask them why all the effort if it's just a message board.

Just back from the first London concert.  Brian was really into descriptions of details about his creation of the various songs in Pet Sounds as he introduced them.  This will be quick, since I have to get to other things, but it was - simply - another excellent show with outstanding musicians.  It was the same set list as Birmingham and Cardiff.  Due to my seats near amps, I can't comment on the sound effectively, but the minor glitches in Birmingham and Cardiff seemed to be corrected.  Tomorrow night I have much better seats.

It's cute how you're being portrayed as a "conspiracy theorist" here when you obviously have information regarding the campaign against you, or you'd have said nothing.  I'm also very clear about the recent campaign to attack the British leg of Brian's tour by a certain group on that same sad little board.  Like you said, I'd love to know their motivation, and where they get their information.  We've been hearing this "Brian looks frail" and "shouldn't be forced to tour" crap for 12 years now, by the same person in the UK, or one of her "friends."  It has become more than tiresome.  You just have to wonder what the point is.  It's odd that these supposed fans are so devoted to Brian not touring anymore, when he's made it clear that he wants to, the shows are selling out, and the crowds are enthusiastic.
Glad you are enjoying the shows. Your buddy is the only person talking conspiracy theories, no one else. Have fun in London.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 20, 2016, 04:55:07 PM
Really? I'll admit I've had some run-ins with some people on these boards such as the deplorable Ian Wagner and the heinous Mam Cott.

I'd like to know which rule/agenda/conspiracy/payroll allows Jim to continuously insult and bully me (without provocation) right out in the open, in front of and in spite of the Moderators? 

And also hear about the experiences at Brian's concerts.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on May 20, 2016, 04:55:44 PM
My thoughts on Funky Pretty are that it was very tight with a tasteful and spacious arrangement.  I must confess that I'm not familiar enough with the In Concert version to fully answer, although it was more guitar driven than synth driven.

Funky Pretty is a song that has taken me many years to embrace, I had a similar experience with Marcella (shame that didn't make the set now I mention it, won't complain though!)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Moon Dawg on May 20, 2016, 05:18:16 PM
I don't know if I should feel flattered by the attention, but the most active recent discussion on that board was back in November/December when Andrew (two Andrews, apparently) and several other former members of this forum who were banned decided to unload and turn it into a place to bash and criticize me for what they thought I did or didn't do here. That in itself was enough, but I also noticed the moderator apparently felt that was on topic enough to remain active, despite being everything but "It's all about the music", and even got in a few digs of their own. If that's the kind of board which encourages that kind of thing, then has members posting about comments made here about *there*, it becomes playground level kids' stuff. "I'm taking my ball and going home!" level dialogue. Nothing about the music. Just taking personal shots.

Then it became known that threads such as that on BBB were part of a deliberate effort to trash me and what I was supposed to have done or not done as a moderator of this board. Inspire others to join their calls for me to either step down or be 'fired', perhaps? In some cases it almost worked. Again this effort was involving members here who set out to discredit and bash me among others here, not only in light of the facts but again having nothing to do with coming to this forum or any other music community to talk about music, which is a regular charge for members to do more of. Yet that bashing fest stands as one of the most if not the most active thread on that community in months, if not all year. Do I get an end-of-the-year award for that distinction?  ;D

It is unfortunate for the fans who actually do go there and here and anywhere else to post about the music, about shows, about anything related to the purpose of these forums. Because there are legitimately good, even great fans who like to hang out and talk.

It is a shame the real and honest-to-goodness fans have to unknowingly get pushed aside by the multiple layers that exist on these forums beyond fans coming here to read and talk to each other. It's not their fault there are others who are using these forums to purposely do things like the "Bash Guitarfool" type discussions at the end of last year and travel deep down into layers beyond what most people might think exist underneath all of this on the surface.

Please guitarfool, get off the freakin' cross already. I would probably say as far as The Beach Boys goes, I probably agree with you at least 75 percent of the time, but your propensity to take everything as an insult and the way you take every comment that may offer constructive criticism as something resembling a Judas or Brutus is just becoming a bit much.

Constructive criticism is fine. For months I read and answered messages sent to me that were constructive and critical, but when those messages from some people started to turn into rants full of profanity and the sense that any reply i offered, including the suggestion to simply ignore certain things before a script to allow that digitally was set up, was being ignored. If i didn't give the answer these people must have been seeking, nothing else was accepted and I became the asshole for not doing what others wanted.

No cross, man. How would you feel upon finding out there were board members who not only organized such a thing against you, but didn't have the guts to say it personally so they took it onto another forum and social media to trash YOUR name? Then to find out it was going on at a forum you don't even visit regularly, visit that forum, and find your name and actions you didn't even do being bashed by any number of people, led by exactly the people who you'd find out later had a hand in setting this up deliberately?

Then...to have it filter on to this board, where misunderstandings of how things are done, how moderators do not work alone or act alone, to have all moderators and the board administrator back that up, and still have people going around with their various plans and plots to discredit YOU to the point where you're either forced to step down or would quit because the heat got too hot to take?

The best thing about the truth, Jim, is it's easy to spot the lies when you know it. If you were moderating this board, and not only saw board members trashing you and making stuff up when the reality is all mods are equally involved in bans and other decisions, but also found out it was being deliberately planned and organized by several board members who launched it as almost a campaign against you...I guess that would be OK to have people lying, bashing you on multiple forums, enlisting others to do the same thing, and then having people say "get off the cross"?

Right. If being a moderator involves that, i don't know how many good posters here would want any parts of it. Unless having people launch personal attack campaigns against you is part of the agreement when signing up.
If people are out to get you, why do you think that is? Did it just pop out of the mid-air or are you responsible for how you come off in here? Amazing too, that the banned members are also folks that had difference of opinions with you. Quite a few of the bannings come off looking like personal vendettas and some of those banned members believe that it is. That is the toughest part of moderating anything; being fair, but also getting involved and taking sides in the same discussions that you are moderating. That in itself is a tough balancing act, no doubt. Maybe we all need a do-over?

I know exactly why it is done and why it was done, Doctor. I also know the desired results. Unfortunately I don't think some of the people who not only bought into the campaigns and believed the lies, but also participated in them know what it's all about beneath the surface. That's the troubling part. There were a lot of people duped, I'm afraid. When all moderators and the board admin have - multiple times publicly - said exactly how things are and were done, yet the claims of something other than that truth are still being made and believed in order to discredit someone, that's not good. Propaganda tends to work that way, it's about promoting the lies as the truth, making people believe them, enlisting others to believe and join in the campaign, and get the results that are desired. The perspective is vastly different when you're the one targeted by propaganda.
Propaganda works both ways. I've seen lies promoted as truth, but I have seen truth promoted as a lie. Kind of depends on which side of the line you fall on. Most likely it all comes down to whether one feels like they have been treated fairly or not. For this board, I can only judge by what I read and by what actions that are taken. Either that or you are the unluckiest person when it comes to timing. You have to admit, a lot has gone down in a fairly short amount of time.

Consider that the reasons behind "a lot going down" that you might believe are not the actual, deeper reasons why things were and are being done. A lot of people have axes to grind against any number of individuals, but they don't start and engage in propaganda or smear campaigns across several message boards and social media outlets to badmouth and influence the removal of one moderator on a message board. Did you consider there might be more to the whole thing, Doctor, than disagreeing with or not liking someone on a message board which would explain how much effort has gone into these things so far?
Seriously, you need to look in the mirror to answer that question. Only you and the people posting know exactly why this is happening.

I know exactly why. It's a shame if anyone who believed those behind the campaign might not have been told the real story or the real reasons before signing on.
Oh, the high Intrigues that go one here at Smiley Smile.

Please do fill us in. Man, this is better than the National Enquirer.

I'm gonna be totally honest about this...

THIS IS A FUCKIN' MESSAGE BOARD! This isn't the Pentagon or the Mob or some super serious thing! I think some people are taking themselves way, way, way too frickin' seriously about this stuff, with people apparently "out to get" people that they don't even really know in day-to-day life? Really? I'll admit I've had some run-ins with some people on these boards such as the deplorable Ian Wagner and the heinous Mam Cott. But even then, I never would take it far enough to get into "conspiracy" or whatever. It's outta hand.

My point exactly. It's ultimately a fuckin' message board to most who are involved and have been members since it started. Which is why I wondered just like you why people were so bent on trying to influence the way it exists, being out to get someone they don't know or ever met in real life, or why so much effort was put into organizing and trying to execute a plan to "get" someone at all. Because of what? Things said, done, or not done to satisfaction on a message board?

Exactly Jim, it's a fuckin' message board. But maybe to some it has more interest than what is on the surface. You'll have to ask them why all the effort if it's just a message board.


  Lots of drama from you. My advice? Play it  8)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GuyO on May 21, 2016, 04:21:22 PM
http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-2bfea8d2.html

London Palladium set list night 2. Cotton Fields and Girl, Don't Tell Me added to the setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 21, 2016, 05:21:05 PM
Still no setlist from the first London show--I'd be curious to see whether there were any significant variations. 

Interesting to see 'Girl Don't Tell Me' and 'Cottonfields' added on the second London show. Kinda glad that they seemed to have swapped 'And Then I Kissed Her' for Cottonfields,' as it leaves some of the deeper cuts like 'Wake the World' and 'Add Some Music' intact.  I'm hoping that 'Honkin'' makes a comeback at some point--it was great at the Osaka show!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on May 21, 2016, 06:47:38 PM
Good to hear Girl Don't Tell Me has reappeared.  One of my favorites and it suits Brian's voice very well.  It was one of the highlights for me when I saw them last year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 22, 2016, 01:56:49 AM
Still no setlist from the first London show--I'd be curious to see whether there were any significant variations.  

Interesting to see 'Girl Don't Tell Me' and 'Cottonfields' added on the second London show. Kinda glad that they seemed to have swapped 'And Then I Kissed Her' for Cottonfields,' as it leaves some of the deeper cuts like 'Wake the World' and 'Add Some Music' intact.  I'm hoping that 'Honkin'' makes a comeback at some point--it was great at the Osaka show!

First show had 'Little Honda' instead, which was missing from the second show.  I don't recall 'Then I Kissed Her' being played at either.  Other than that, I don't think there were any variations.  Shame we got no Honkin'.  Glad to hear 'Cottonfields' though.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 22, 2016, 02:35:28 AM
I don't think Honkin' had been played at any of the UK dates so far. Hopefully it (or another rarity) will make it back in at some point.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: T2458 on May 22, 2016, 02:46:17 AM
Palladium first night the band went from 'Add Some Music' straight into 'Do It Again'.

Two great songs that Al could have sung 'Then I Kissed her' and/or 'Cottonfields' - it hurts that we missed both!

As said before - earlier on 'Little Honda' replaced 'Girl Don't Tell Me'.

The concert started quite late - it seemed like they didn't get everyone away from the concessions or the bar until well after 20:15.  We could see all the band waiting in the wings for a good ten minutes or more - did they run out of time?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 22, 2016, 04:04:39 AM
http://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/22/brian-wilson-presents-pet-sounds-review-a-spectacularly-moving-evening


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 22, 2016, 04:13:43 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?

You're  joking, aren't you? This show has legs.  However, maybe we could switch all this thrust and parry to an Ask Guitarfool thread before yet another nail is hammered  into the board's coffin and we can get back to the topic in hand...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 22, 2016, 05:56:02 AM
Palladium first night the band went from 'Add Some Music' straight into 'Do It Again'.

Two great songs that Al could have sung 'Then I Kissed her' and/or 'Cottonfields' - it hurts that we missed both!

As said before - earlier on 'Little Honda' replaced 'Girl Don't Tell Me'.

The concert started quite late - it seemed like they didn't get everyone away from the concessions or the bar until well after 20:15.  We could see all the band waiting in the wings for a good ten minutes or more - did they run out of time?

The setlist for the 20th is up now on Setlist dot com, and they do list Cottonfields as having been played...  is that incorrect? 

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-4bfeb316.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 22, 2016, 06:37:53 AM
Yeah, incorrect.  It was Saturday only.

Just occurred to me - we didn't get Sail Away.  Why no Sail Away?  I thought we'd get that for this tour.  All the singers were present too.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on May 22, 2016, 06:42:07 AM
Play Leaving This Town or we riot!  :rock


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: IainLee on May 22, 2016, 07:02:51 AM
I was at the show last night with my 6 year old boy. His second ever concert

Great seats, second row of the first balcony.

I really enjoyed it. Brian seemed into it. His voice was a little croakier than it has been. Al and Blondie sounded great and a real thrill to hear Blondie sing Funky Pretty.

The band were good. Not the best I've seen. Personally I felt without Jeff or Darian they lacked a little something.

A great night though. My son loved it although he slept through some of the second half.

Just my thoughts.

Oh. And I have no idea what's happened on this board but some of you are coming across as a bit silly and may be scaring casual fans away. Let's just talk about the Beach Boys, huh?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 22, 2016, 07:18:50 AM
I was at the show last night with my 6 year old boy. His second ever concert

Great seats, second row of the first balcony.

I really enjoyed it. Brian seemed into it. His voice was a little croakier than it has been. Al and Blondie sounded great and a real thrill to hear Blondie sing Funky Pretty.

The band were good. Not the best I've seen. Personally I felt without Jeff or Darian they lacked a little something.

A great night though. My son loved it although he slept through some of the second half.

Just my thoughts.

Oh. And I have no idea what's happened on this board but some of you are coming across as a bit silly and may be scaring casual fans away. Let's just talk about the Beach Boys, huh?

Well said Ian!

Glad you and your boy enjoyed the show.  I'm taking my 7 year old on Friday and I wonder what she'll make of it.  It will be her first concert.  Her two favourite songs are "Ten Little Indians" and "Runaway Dancer"! Not much chance of those being played.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 07:45:41 AM
I was at the show last night with my 6 year old boy. His second ever concert

Great seats, second row of the first balcony.

I really enjoyed it. Brian seemed into it. His voice was a little croakier than it has been. Al and Blondie sounded great and a real thrill to hear Blondie sing Funky Pretty.

The band were good. Not the best I've seen. Personally I felt without Jeff or Darian they lacked a little something.

A great night though. My son loved it although he slept through some of the second half.

Just my thoughts.

Oh. And I have no idea what's happened on this board but some of you are coming across as a bit silly and may be scaring casual fans away. Let's just talk about the Beach Boys, huh?

What a great second concert for your son to see! That's terrific. Is he a fan of listening to the music at home too?

For me, I saw the Smile show/tour without Jeff (he got sick prior to the show and couldn't perform the whole thing) and the band found a way to pull together and do a magnificent show (of course it was the Smile tour, the crowd was into it 100% and that always helps drive the band). I also saw a show last fall where Darian couldn't play due to the Zombies tour, and again the highlights were as stunning as any other show. Matt Jardine actually came close to stealing the show that night, and won the crowd over to a standing ovation on songs like Don't Worry Baby. I prefer his falsetto in this band's blend over previous ones, actually- his vocal quality fits the blend, especially when Al is supporting him with the harmony notes underneath, it creates that family blend that has almost a "third voice" quality when siblings or parents/children sing harmony together. And Surf's Up that night was transcendent, one of those performances that just clicked, Billy H was on keys. There was also one show where Darian couldn't make it (I think due to the Heart tour at that time), and I did notice a difference that night, but that was over a decade ago.


On the last point - It would pale in comparison to the numbers of new or casual fans who have said they were afraid of posting to this board for fear of being corrected, reprimanded, or even insulted if they asked a question or made a comment that wasn't up to the level of where some experts thought those posting comments here should be. Some even quit posting entirely because of it. Hopefully those insults are a thing of the past and anyone who was afraid of being insulted here as a new fan who wants to learn more and talk will consider coming back to chat without being insulted.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 22, 2016, 07:59:52 AM
I was at the show last night with my 6 year old boy. His second ever concert

Great seats, second row of the first balcony.

I really enjoyed it. Brian seemed into it. His voice was a little croakier than it has been. Al and Blondie sounded great and a real thrill to hear Blondie sing Funky Pretty.

The band were good. Not the best I've seen. Personally I felt without Jeff or Darian they lacked a little something.

A great night though. My son loved it although he slept through some of the second half.

Just my thoughts.

Oh. And I have no idea what's happened on this board but some of you are coming across as a bit silly and may be scaring casual fans away. Let's just talk about the Beach Boys, huh?

What a great second concert for your son to see! That's terrific. Is he a fan of listening to the music at home too?

For me, I saw the Smile show/tour without Jeff (he got sick prior to the show and couldn't perform the whole thing) and the band found a way to pull together and do a magnificent show (of course it was the Smile tour, the crowd was into it 100% and that always helps drive the band). I also saw a show last fall where Darian couldn't play due to the Zombies tour, and again the highlights were as stunning as any other show. Matt Jardine actually came close to stealing the show that night, and won the crowd over to a standing ovation on songs like Don't Worry Baby. I prefer his falsetto in this band's blend over previous ones, actually- his vocal quality fits the blend, especially when Al is supporting him with the harmony notes underneath, it creates that family blend that has almost a "third voice" quality when siblings or parents/children sing harmony together. And Surf's Up that night was transcendent, one of those performances that just clicked, Billy H was on keys. There was also one show where Darian couldn't make it (I think due to the Heart tour at that time), and I did notice a difference that night, but that was over a decade ago.


On the last point - It would pale in comparison to the numbers of new or casual fans who have said they were afraid of posting to this board for fear of being corrected, reprimanded, or even insulted if they asked a question or made a comment that wasn't up to the level of where some experts thought those posting comments here should be. Some even quit posting entirely because of it. Hopefully those insults are a thing of the past and anyone who was afraid of being insulted here as a new fan who wants to learn more and talk will consider coming back to chat without being insulted.

Absolutely, Craig, that "holier than thou", arrogant and pugnacious behavior toward members here has finally left the building for good.  :woot


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 08:00:34 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?

You're  joking, aren't you? This show has legs.  However, maybe we could switch all this thrust and parry to an Ask Guitarfool thread before yet another nail is hammered  into the board's coffin and we can get back to the topic in hand...

A thread to talk or a thread to blame me for everything perceived to be wrong with this board?  :)

I'm curious who either provided the nails or swung the hammer on the number of Beach Boys related boards in the past that either imploded or simply fell apart (or never got off the ground). Cabinessence, Shut Down, Male Ego, The Record Room, The Vibe Room, The Smile Shop, The Sunshine Pop board (or whatever the title)...I was only a regular poster and registered member of The Smile Shop, and the reasons why that folded didn't involve me at all but you could always ask those it did involve.

So what were the reasons why the others collapsed...could it be some of the same people causing the same issues from board to board that led to whatever arguments and issues and all else? The same people getting warnings, bans, and even getting the boot from those forums who also came here? This board is still standing. Even the recent Hoffman board exodus (another board I'm not registered and do not post) was eventually crushed when the mods there must have gotten fed up with it and ended up deleting all of the discussions that heavily featured members who were banned from this board and who have axes to grind. I guess I was to blame for that too?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 22, 2016, 08:11:01 AM
On the last point - It would pale in comparison to the numbers of new or casual fans who have said they were afraid of posting to this board for fear of being corrected, reprimanded, or even insulted if they asked a question or made a comment that wasn't up to the level of where some experts thought those posting comments here should be. Some even quit posting entirely because of it. Hopefully those insults are a thing of the past and anyone who was afraid of being insulted here as a new fan who wants to learn more and talk will consider coming back to chat without being insulted.
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Yeah, and how about the number of people who don't post because they feel if they post an honest opinion that goes against the party line they will be labeled Brian Haters or accused of being on The Lovester's payroll?  They can't all be on the payroll. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 08:46:31 AM
Yeah, and how about the number of people who don't post because they feel if they post an honest opinion that goes against the party line they will be labeled Brian Haters or accused of being on The Lovester's payroll?  They can't all be on the payroll.  

Yeah, how about it - Is your suggestion now that two wrongs make a right, or at least cancel each other out? There are opinions on all sides and those expressing them or even soliciting them can't expect those who don't see it the same way to not offer a debate, as long as it doesn't go too far into personal insults. If someone writes in a review that going to a Brian Wilson concert is akin to the family pushing Grandpa out in a wheelchair for Thanksgiving dinner, do you think people won't react and respond in kind and blast that kind of thing if they take offense?

But for years new fans were coming here and being either scared off or intimidated into not posting basic questions because of what was seen as the prevailing attitude on this board. I have heard from fans who said they felt they were at risk of being called idiots, trolls, or any number of other names if they posted what was judged by whoever thought it was their duty to be naive or uninformed, in fact quite a few actually were. Therefore there was a reluctance to post here, and that became one of the images this board picked up as a result. maybe that is one of the reasons why some labeled the board toxic - Hopefully that's in the past.

Did you think that was OK seeing new fans being raked over the coals for asking questions?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 22, 2016, 08:49:40 AM
Yeah, incorrect.  It was Saturday only.

Just occurred to me - we didn't get Sail Away.  Why no Sail Away?  I thought we'd get that for this tour.  All the singers were present too.

Other than "One Kind of Love", the other NPP songs have been dropped for all the 2016 shows so far. I don't see much solo stuff creeping back into the setlist, though Brian has in past years randomly resurrected stuff like "Your Imagination."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 22, 2016, 09:05:21 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?

You're  joking, aren't you? This show has legs.  However, maybe we could switch all this thrust and parry to an Ask Guitarfool thread before yet another nail is hammered  into the board's coffin and we can get back to the topic in hand...

A thread to talk or a thread to blame me for everything perceived to be wrong with this board?  :)

I'm curious who either provided the nails or swung the hammer on the number of Beach Boys related boards in the past that either imploded or simply fell apart (or never got off the ground). Cabinessence, Shut Down, Male Ego, The Record Room, The Vibe Room, The Smile Shop, The Sunshine Pop board (or whatever the title)...I was only a regular poster and registered member of The Smile Shop, and the reasons why that folded didn't involve me at all but you could always ask those it did involve.

So what were the reasons why the others collapsed...could it be some of the same people causing the same issues from board to board that led to whatever arguments and issues and all else? The same people getting warnings, bans, and even getting the boot from those forums who also came here? This board is still standing. Even the recent Hoffman board exodus (another board I'm not registered and do not post) was eventually crushed when the mods there must have gotten fed up with it and ended up deleting all of the discussions that heavily featured members who were banned from this board and who have axes to grind. I guess I was to blame for that too?

The Cab board/Shut Down? Personally speaking, I came here after AGD and others with knowledge decamped and because I got pissed off by a couple of posters who bullied others - which is kinda ironic when you realise who one of them was. The other boards? I don't know, except for The Record Room, which I only visited occasionally and didn't care for its ego-simonizing. I don't think people left there because of the posters you're being careful not to reference. Still think your own personal board would improve things. Posters can blame you for not doing enough about those who ruin thread after thread by whining about Mike or to blame you and your cheering section for the perception that they're not allowed to criticise Brian (even though they're all fans) and you can write and they can read and re-read your justifications until everyone's heart is content.  

Stuff doesn't belong in a thread about Brian's 2016 tour, however.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 22, 2016, 10:37:58 AM
I think it would be nice if all this was in another thread. I'm not an on-topic purist, but I think this may be a thread that non-board/not really active fans will run into while looking for tour reviews/info. It would be good if their first impression isn't of a battle-zone.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 22, 2016, 11:20:08 AM
I hope this wasn't posted before. If so, I apologize.
An interview with Brian on Pet Sounds' anniversary:




Brian Wilson on Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary-2016 Interview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-enTP0_mY5U


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 11:24:16 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?

You're  joking, aren't you? This show has legs.  However, maybe we could switch all this thrust and parry to an Ask Guitarfool thread before yet another nail is hammered  into the board's coffin and we can get back to the topic in hand...

A thread to talk or a thread to blame me for everything perceived to be wrong with this board?  :)

I'm curious who either provided the nails or swung the hammer on the number of Beach Boys related boards in the past that either imploded or simply fell apart (or never got off the ground). Cabinessence, Shut Down, Male Ego, The Record Room, The Vibe Room, The Smile Shop, The Sunshine Pop board (or whatever the title)...I was only a regular poster and registered member of The Smile Shop, and the reasons why that folded didn't involve me at all but you could always ask those it did involve.

So what were the reasons why the others collapsed...could it be some of the same people causing the same issues from board to board that led to whatever arguments and issues and all else? The same people getting warnings, bans, and even getting the boot from those forums who also came here? This board is still standing. Even the recent Hoffman board exodus (another board I'm not registered and do not post) was eventually crushed when the mods there must have gotten fed up with it and ended up deleting all of the discussions that heavily featured members who were banned from this board and who have axes to grind. I guess I was to blame for that too?

The Cab board/Shut Down? Personally speaking, I came here after AGD and others with knowledge decamped and because I got pissed off by a couple of posters who bullied others - which is kinda ironic when you realise who one of them was. The other boards? I don't know, except for The Record Room, which I only visited occasionally and didn't care for its ego-simonizing. I don't think people left there because of the posters you're being careful not to reference. Still think your own personal board would improve things. Posters can blame you for not doing enough about those who ruin thread after thread by whining about Mike or to blame you and your cheering section for the perception that they're not allowed to criticise Brian (even though they're all fans) and you can write and they can read and re-read your justifications until everyone's heart is content.  

Stuff doesn't belong in a thread about Brian's 2016 tour, however.


Posters can blame me but am I the only moderator and do I make decisions on my own to do or not do something, then act alone when doing it? Despite some who believe otherwise, the answer is a firm "no". Yet I get singled out. If there is a need for my own board or thread or whatever else (and there very well could be a sub forum or thread here in the sandbox or wherever if that's what posters want), at least have it be factually based on how this board is actually moderated and not based on false claims or assumptions.

Was it not enough when in the past 6 months myself, Billy, Klaas, and most recently Charles have in various threads all posted public statements and refuted all the charges about rogue moderators, moderators who bully others, and whatever other bogus statements were being made about the moderation of this board? I guess I'm the only one who is expected to do something even though it's a team effort and decisions are made by consensus.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 22, 2016, 11:26:50 AM
Yeah, and how about the number of people who don't post because they feel if they post an honest opinion that goes against the party line they will be labeled Brian Haters or accused of being on The Lovester's payroll?  They can't all be on the payroll.  

Yeah, how about it - Is your suggestion now that two wrongs make a right, or at least cancel each other out? There are opinions on all sides and those expressing them or even soliciting them can't expect those who don't see it the same way to not offer a debate, as long as it doesn't go too far into personal insults. If someone writes in a review that going to a Brian Wilson concert is akin to the family pushing Grandpa out in a wheelchair for Thanksgiving dinner, do you think people won't react and respond in kind and blast that kind of thing if they take offense?

But for years new fans were coming here and being either scared off or intimidated into not posting basic questions because of what was seen as the prevailing attitude on this board. I have heard from fans who said they felt they were at risk of being called idiots, trolls, or any number of other names if they posted what was judged by whoever thought it was their duty to be naive or uninformed, in fact quite a few actually were. Therefore there was a reluctance to post here, and that became one of the images this board picked up as a result. maybe that is one of the reasons why some labeled the board toxic - Hopefully that's in the past.

Did you think that was OK seeing new fans being raked over the coals for asking questions?

You've missed the point.  I don't mind people leaping to Brian's defence if they feel a review has been harsh or don't agree with the sentiments expressed.  That's what the board is about - discussion.  What I, and others, take offence to is you and others claiming they have an agenda for saying maybe Brian should quit touring, or maybe his voice wasn't up to scratch when they saw him play.  I'm sure most people give an honest assessment of how they see it.  If you see it another way fine. But don't (especially as a MOD) accuse people of an agenda or being on Mike's payroll.  Many of these fans you 'call out' have spent thousands of dollars/pounds supporting Brian and the Beach Boys over the years.  They would pay £60 a ticket to cheer Brian just for everything he's done, but they still have the right to comment on how he appears or sounds on stage.  As you have the right to defend him and have a different opinion.  Think back to your reaction to the autotune discussion of NPP.  You were desperate to discredit those who claimed it was used.  Yet, Brian himself has said he uses it on vocals.  It didn't ruin my enjoyment of the album but might have done for others, doesn't mean they had an agenda.

I'm sorry to Emily and others for being off topic, I just feel strongly about all of this.  Maybe some honesty would be great all round.  I'll start by saying I love the Beach Boys, everyone of them.  But when it comes down to it I would go and see Brian if both he and the Beach Boys were in town on the same night! But I don't dislike any of them and value all their contributions.  That's what made/makes them such a uniquely talented group. :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 11:33:05 AM
I think it would be nice if all this was in another thread. I'm not an on-topic purist, but I think this may be a thread that non-board/not really active fans will run into while looking for tour reviews/info. It would be good if their first impression isn't of a battle-zone.

How many fans do you think were lost through the recent years when they posted something and got either a public or private message calling them idiots or trolls or trying to correct something they said on the board? First impressions of this board have been formed, unfortunately, by actions and behavior well before this thread and which didn't involve people actively participating in it this week. If it means starting up another thread or something, by all means do it. But of all the topics that go in and out of being religiously "on topic", this is only one of them, and it's reacting to what came up several pages ago.

I'd love to read more reviews and comments on the live shows! Unfortunately that's limited by who feels like posting them and sharing those thoughts. It is great to see actual thoughts on the actual shows instead of requests for pre-sale codes and ticketing info that is best addressed to the ticket offices, ticket brokers, and venues hosting the shows, but all of those comments are not discouraged nor are they deleted or moved from a thread about the live shows themselves.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 22, 2016, 11:35:13 AM
Who is up for a show in PA this year? ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 22, 2016, 11:35:37 AM
I feel the same way as mikeddon. All I ask for is consistency. I don't even care if you are tough or lenient, but however you decide to moderate, you do it the same whether a person is pro-Brian, pro-Mike or just an overall fan of the Beach Boys.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: IainLee on May 22, 2016, 11:36:47 AM
I think it would be nice if all this was in another thread. I'm not an on-topic purist, but I think this may be a thread that non-board/not really active fans will run into while looking for tour reviews/info. It would be good if their first impression isn't of a battle-zone.

How many fans do you think were lost through the recent years when they posted something and got either a public or private message calling them idiots or trolls or trying to correct something they said on the board? First impressions of this board have been formed, unfortunately, by actions and behavior well before this thread and which didn't involve people actively participating in it this week. If it means starting up another thread or something, by all means do it. But of all the topics that go in and out of being religiously "on topic", this is only one of them, and it's reacting to what came up several pages ago.

I'd love to read more reviews and comments on the live shows! Unfortunately that's limited by who feels like posting them and sharing those thoughts. It is great to see actual thoughts on the actual shows instead of requests for pre-sale codes and ticketing info that is best addressed to the ticket offices, ticket brokers, and venues hosting the shows, but all of those comments are not discouraged nor are they deleted or moved from a thread about the live shows themselves.


Dude

I have literally no idea what's happened here. But. You need to take a break. Step away from the keyboard and breathe.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 22, 2016, 11:44:39 AM
Someone posted this video of a couple of impressions of the show from May 15th. Check it out and be sure to catch Blondie's dedication to Dennis and Carl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHVAygk8cc


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 11:51:07 AM
Yeah, and how about the number of people who don't post because they feel if they post an honest opinion that goes against the party line they will be labeled Brian Haters or accused of being on The Lovester's payroll?  They can't all be on the payroll.  

Yeah, how about it - Is your suggestion now that two wrongs make a right, or at least cancel each other out? There are opinions on all sides and those expressing them or even soliciting them can't expect those who don't see it the same way to not offer a debate, as long as it doesn't go too far into personal insults. If someone writes in a review that going to a Brian Wilson concert is akin to the family pushing Grandpa out in a wheelchair for Thanksgiving dinner, do you think people won't react and respond in kind and blast that kind of thing if they take offense?

But for years new fans were coming here and being either scared off or intimidated into not posting basic questions because of what was seen as the prevailing attitude on this board. I have heard from fans who said they felt they were at risk of being called idiots, trolls, or any number of other names if they posted what was judged by whoever thought it was their duty to be naive or uninformed, in fact quite a few actually were. Therefore there was a reluctance to post here, and that became one of the images this board picked up as a result. maybe that is one of the reasons why some labeled the board toxic - Hopefully that's in the past.

Did you think that was OK seeing new fans being raked over the coals for asking questions?

You've missed the point.  I don't mind people leaping to Brian's defence if they feel a review has been harsh or don't agree with the sentiments expressed.  That's what the board is about - discussion.  What I, and others, take offence to is you and others claiming they have an agenda for saying maybe Brian should quit touring, or maybe his voice wasn't up to scratch when they saw him play.  I'm sure most people give an honest assessment of how they see it.  If you see it another way fine. But don't (especially as a MOD) accuse people of an agenda or being on Mike's payroll.  Many of these fans you 'call out' have spent thousands of dollars/pounds supporting Brian and the Beach Boys over the years.  They would pay £60 a ticket to cheer Brian just for everything he's done, but they still have the right to comment on how he appears or sounds on stage.  As you have the right to defend him and have a different opinion.  Think back to your reaction to the autotune discussion of NPP.  You were desperate to discredit those who claimed it was used.  Yet, Brian himself has said he uses it on vocals.  It didn't ruin my enjoyment of the album but might have done for others, doesn't mean they had an agenda.

I'm sorry to Emily and others for being off topic, I just feel strongly about all of this.  Maybe some honesty would be great all round.  I'll start by saying I love the Beach Boys, everyone of them.  But when it comes down to it I would go and see Brian if both he and the Beach Boys were in town on the same night! But I don't dislike any of them and value all their contributions.  That's what made/makes them such a uniquely talented group. :)

Can you find one example of me accusing anyone of being "on the payroll"? If the talk is of agendas, there was one definite example which involved efforts to get me out as a moderator here, and there is proof of it that got carried onto another BB's forum. Otherwise I never would have brought it up. No conspiracy, no tinfoil hat speculation, but something that actually happened. But...it is funny to me that a mod or mods on another forum supposed to be about the Beach Boys and their music allowed that thread which was a place to bash me publicly to continue despite that topic having f**k-all to do with the Beach Boys or their music, and it became the most popular topic that board has seen in at least a year. I'll say again, maybe I should feel honored that it turned out that way! "You're welcome" might be in order for giving the membership there something to post about that ran up the clicks and post totals which the "on topic" posts couldn't seem to do.

Now when others see the same posters saying the same things on the same forums going back a decade about Brian's voice, about how he should retire, about related topics where the chorus always seems to be singing the same notes...wouldn't it be expected some might notice and call that out specifically, or at least question it? No one is calling for bans, censorship, or anything that I saw, but if there is such a coincidence in any topic going back that long surely some readers would spot it and mention it. That was the same deal with the autotune issue, there were a lot of comments about it to where it looked like something other than fans voicing opinions. Should people not mention it or single it out if they see something unusual like that repeating itself from place to place?

Also - check this out  :)  :

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/24/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-talks-love-and-mercy/

most interesting quote: "I don't use autotune."



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 22, 2016, 11:51:44 AM
Someone posted this video of a couple of impressions of the show from May 15th. Check it out and be sure to catch Blondie's dedication to Dennis and Carl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHVAygk8cc
Nice!!!! 8)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 11:53:25 AM
I feel the same way as mikeddon. All I ask for is consistency. I don't even care if you are tough or lenient, but however you decide to moderate, you do it the same whether a person is pro-Brian, pro-Mike or just an overall fan of the Beach Boys.

Moderation here is a team effort. It's not however or whoever "you" might be decides to act alone, so such decisions shouldn't be expected from nor should they be blamed on one person as has been done despite the issue being addressed by all mods since December 2015 whenever it came up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 22, 2016, 12:06:19 PM
Exactly, the "rogue GF drama" around here is bullshit. Moderation is a team effort for sure!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 22, 2016, 12:06:51 PM

Also - check this out  :)  :

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/24/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-talks-love-and-mercy/

most interesting quote: "I don't use autotune."


No, he uses Pro Tools pitch correction.

http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2016/05/13/the-exchange-podcast-brian-wilsons-good-vibes/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 12:18:49 PM
Someone posted this video of a couple of impressions of the show from May 15th. Check it out and be sure to catch Blondie's dedication to Dennis and Carl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHVAygk8cc
Nice!!!! 8)

That is nice! The quality of that video is really, really good...kudos for that.

For those interested, Blondie is at 11:15.

Starting at 17:27 there are clips of GOK - IKTAA - Here Today - and IJWMFTT that are really top notch.

I wish there were longer versions of these specific songs! Love to see Al with a 6-string banjo and singing IKTAA, i just wish the video had shown him playing Glen's original banjo break that night! I really enjoyed Brian's vocals on IJWMFTT, it's really cool to hear him singing live on that melody of all melodies, a personal favorite. Matt Jardine sounded great on falsetto and seems to have won the crowd over again, cool that they played him on for the encore with "Carry On" by Kansas! Same with Gary Griffin's entrance music "Tighten Up"...that's cool stuff.

I'll have to wait to see it in person when the tour gets back to the US, but that video quality was so good I wish they had also posted the Theremin break on IJWMFTT and that bridge from Here Today.

Great stuff...thanks to the YouTube uploader for posting the original video and Rocker for the link too!  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 12:21:43 PM
Al singing Help Me Rhonda...Damn! The guy hasn't aged a bit in 51 years vocally.

More videos please!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 22, 2016, 12:50:06 PM
Someone posted this video of a couple of impressions of the show from May 15th. Check it out and be sure to catch Blondie's dedication to Dennis and Carl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHVAygk8cc
Nice!!!! 8)

That is nice! The quality of that video is really, really good...kudos for that.

For those interested, Blondie is at 11:15.

Starting at 17:27 there are clips of GOK - IKTAA - Here Today - and IJWMFTT that are really top notch.

I wish there were longer versions of these specific songs! Love to see Al with a 6-string banjo and singing IKTAA, i just wish the video had shown him playing Glen's original banjo break that night! I really enjoyed Brian's vocals on IJWMFTT, it's really cool to hear him singing live on that melody of all melodies, a personal favorite. Matt Jardine sounded great on falsetto and seems to have won the crowd over again, cool that they played him on for the encore with "Carry On" by Kansas! Same with Gary Griffin's entrance music "Tighten Up"...that's cool stuff.

I'll have to wait to see it in person when the tour gets back to the US, but that video quality was so good I wish they had also posted the Theremin break on IJWMFTT and that bridge from Here Today.

Great stuff...thanks to the YouTube uploader for posting the original video and Rocker for the link too!  :)
Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Liam McParland on May 22, 2016, 12:50:16 PM
I'm growing increasingly desperate, do you guys think there's ANY chance of me finding a Meet and Greet pack for Seattle on Oct 8?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 01:05:07 PM
I'm growing increasingly desperate, do you guys think there's ANY chance of me finding a Meet and Greet pack for Seattle on Oct 8?

Try these links, Liam. I only had to search the venue website and another related search to find the first link, which appears to be offering the Meet N Greet packages, however it does specifically say "no tickets are currently available" so it's probably sold out (?)

http://protected.tickets.com/buy/TicketOnsale?agency=STG_VIP6&orgid=30247&poid=126076 (http://protected.tickets.com/buy/TicketOnsale?agency=STG_VIP6&orgid=30247&poid=126076)

http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?pid=8184119&orgid=30247&mkt_code=SOCIAL (http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?pid=8184119&orgid=30247&mkt_code=SOCIAL)

And if that doesn't get you what you're looking for, try if you haven't done so already to call the venue direct, here is their link with contact info:
http://www.stgpresents.org/tickets/eventdetail/2495/-/ (http://www.stgpresents.org/tickets/eventdetail/2495/-/)

And if nothing is available i guess the only outlet left would be searching the brokers and re-sellers if they have any VIP packages available.





Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 22, 2016, 01:32:25 PM
I feel the same way as mikeddon. All I ask for is consistency. I don't even care if you are tough or lenient, but however you decide to moderate, you do it the same whether a person is pro-Brian, pro-Mike or just an overall fan of the Beach Boys.

Moderation here is a team effort. It's not however or whoever "you" might be decides to act alone, so such decisions shouldn't be expected from nor should they be blamed on one person as has been done despite the issue being addressed by all mods since December 2015 whenever it came up.
Tell you what to do then, when you post, let us know when your mod hat is off or on. See, I am never quite sure when I see you address negative Brian comments so vigorously, yet rarely or never touch negative Mike comments. It always looks like you are taking sides. Due to some posts reading like edicts, some of us assume that is mod Craig, not fan Craig addressing us.

We really should take this elsewhere. Maybe in the mod area?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 22, 2016, 01:58:30 PM

Also - check this out  :)  :

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/24/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-talks-love-and-mercy/

most interesting quote: "I don't use autotune."


No, he uses Pro Tools pitch correction.

http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2016/05/13/the-exchange-podcast-brian-wilsons-good-vibes/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

Thanks Cam! Saves me having to post that link.  I mentioned it on that thread but GuitarFool or no one else responded just like he hasn't responded after you posted it here.  Maybe he just missed it or maybe he's happy to take Brian's word for it on one hand when it suits but not on the other when it doesn't.

GF there is no point in going back and forth on this you won't budge.  Neither will I.  Remember that thread about the pictures from Love and Mercy and you tried to argue we didn't even know if hey were trying to recreate the Paradise Cove shoot when people expressed some concern about the wrong vehicle being used?  That is symptomatic of the arguing black is white you do on here.  Along with the no pitch correction (yes, I now I called it autotune earlier!).  Now you are implying we can't discuss tickets and meet and greet stuff in the Tour thread.  Forgive me if I'm wrong but are those issues not pertinent to the Tour?  The thread title doesn't say it's only for specific show talk.  And you are wondering why people are getting fed up having you as a Moderator?  For the record, I don't think it would be nice to have people talking about you on other boards.  I don't like to see that and wouldn't pile on someone but people are frustrated.  And I want you to know I don't have any axe to grind with you personally and I enjoy reading your other posts (for example when your talking about the gear the guys used and the actual vehicle used in the aforementioned photo shoot, etc. That stuff is informative)  Anyway, don't be offended if I don't say anymore on this but feel free to respond.  

Now for the love of Brian, let's get back to the music!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on May 22, 2016, 01:59:42 PM
Someone posted this video of a couple of impressions of the show from May 15th. Check it out and be sure to catch Blondie's dedication to Dennis and Carl.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHVAygk8cc
Nice!!!! 8)

That is nice! The quality of that video is really, really good...kudos for that.

For those interested, Blondie is at 11:15.

Starting at 17:27 there are clips of GOK - IKTAA - Here Today - and IJWMFTT that are really top notch.

I wish there were longer versions of these specific songs! Love to see Al with a 6-string banjo and singing IKTAA, i just wish the video had shown him playing Glen's original banjo break that night! I really enjoyed Brian's vocals on IJWMFTT, it's really cool to hear him singing live on that melody of all melodies, a personal favorite. Matt Jardine sounded great on falsetto and seems to have won the crowd over again, cool that they played him on for the encore with "Carry On" by Kansas! Same with Gary Griffin's entrance music "Tighten Up"...that's cool stuff.

I'll have to wait to see it in person when the tour gets back to the US, but that video quality was so good I wish they had also posted the Theremin break on IJWMFTT and that bridge from Here Today.

Great stuff...thanks to the YouTube uploader for posting the original video and Rocker for the link too!  :)


Also loved the ending to L&M (from You Still Believe in Me). Loved seeing everybody dancing


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: IainLee on May 22, 2016, 02:00:45 PM
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RIP


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 22, 2016, 02:04:35 PM
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Nah Ian, this is a quiet day here.  Did you miss the AGD discussion now in the Sandbox?  :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: IainLee on May 22, 2016, 02:08:24 PM
I did. Yeah. I'm only an occasional visitor here and post even less. Just wanted to see what people thought of last nights London show and I seem to have wandered into a mental maelstrom!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 22, 2016, 02:16:43 PM
I did. Yeah. I'm only an occasional visitor here and post even less. Just wanted to see what people thought of last nights London show and I seem to have wandered into a mental maelstrom!
My point.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Liam McParland on May 22, 2016, 02:23:28 PM
I'm growing increasingly desperate, do you guys think there's ANY chance of me finding a Meet and Greet pack for Seattle on Oct 8?

Try these links, Liam. I only had to search the venue website and another related search to find the first link, which appears to be offering the Meet N Greet packages, however it does specifically say "no tickets are currently available" so it's probably sold out (?)

http://protected.tickets.com/buy/TicketOnsale?agency=STG_VIP6&orgid=30247&poid=126076 (http://protected.tickets.com/buy/TicketOnsale?agency=STG_VIP6&orgid=30247&poid=126076)

http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?pid=8184119&orgid=30247&mkt_code=SOCIAL (http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?pid=8184119&orgid=30247&mkt_code=SOCIAL)

And if that doesn't get you what you're looking for, try if you haven't done so already to call the venue direct, here is their link with contact info:
http://www.stgpresents.org/tickets/eventdetail/2495/-/ (http://www.stgpresents.org/tickets/eventdetail/2495/-/)

And if nothing is available i guess the only outlet left would be searching the brokers and re-sellers if they have any VIP packages available.


Yeah alas I seem to have exhausted my options, I'll hold off for another month or two at which point I'll just buy a regular ticket if I haven't found anything


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 02:30:46 PM

Also - check this out  :)  :

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/06/24/the-beach-boys-brian-wilson-talks-love-and-mercy/

most interesting quote: "I don't use autotune."


No, he uses Pro Tools pitch correction.

http://blogs.reuters.com/breakingviews/2016/05/13/the-exchange-podcast-brian-wilsons-good-vibes/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

Thanks Cam! Saves me having to post that link.  I mentioned it on that thread but GuitarFool or no one else responded just like he hasn't responded after you posted it here.  Maybe he just missed it or maybe he's happy to take Brian's word for it on one hand when it suits but not on the other when it doesn't.

GF there is no point in going back and forth on this you won't budge.  Neither will I.  Remember that thread about the pictures from Love and Mercy and you tried to argue we didn't even know if hey were trying to recreate the Paradise Cove shoot when people expressed some concern about the wrong vehicle being used?  That is symptomatic of the arguing black is white you do on here.  Along with the no pitch correction (yes, I now I called it autotune earlier!).  Now you are implying we can't discuss tickets and meet and greet stuff in the Tour thread.  Forgive me if I'm wrong but are those issues not pertinent to the Tour?  The thread title doesn't say it's only for specific show talk.  And you are wondering why people are getting fed up having you as a Moderator?  For the record, I don't think it would be nice to have people talking about you on other boards.  I don't like to see that and wouldn't pile on someone but people are frustrated.  And I want you to know I don't have any axe to grind with you personally and I enjoy reading your other posts (for example when your talking about the gear the guys used and the actual vehicle used in the aforementioned photo shoot, etc. That stuff is informative)  Anyway, don't be offended if I don't say anymore on this but feel free to respond.  

Now for the love of Brian, let's get back to the music!

I have a time limit for responding?  :)

Pro Tools is a DAW, digital recording software program. 99% or more of pro engineers use a separate plug-in made by other manufacturers for pitch correction software because the built-in "Elastic Pitch" effect that is in Pro Tools just isn't used that often, in fact unless the newest ProTools versions have updated this, I think it used to be dependent on other "Elastic" functions being applied as well, like the time stretching for loops and sequences and all of that jazz. So I'm responding to a statement that was similar to hearing a comment about "Chevrolet tires", it wasn't lining up to me because Pro Tools is not pitch correction, it's recording/mixing/editing software and pitch correction plug-ins are separate items to install. What was he talking about exactly, editing? Comping vocal tracks? Pitching up a trailing vocal note at the end of a phrase? If it were more definite I'd have a more definite answer, but Cam's wording of "Pro Tools pitch correction" is like "Chevrolet tires" to me, and I don't know what he's referring to, or whether Cam can clarify more on what Brian was referring to in that podcast interview.

With that out of the way...

I just replied to someone asking for ticket info on Meet N Greet packages in Seattle - and I'm on the opposite coast, with no plans to travel to Seattle or no connections to Seattle or those tickets at all! If it were a case of me calling the shots solo and deleting posts and banning people, and if it were my call on pre-sale codes and asking about ticket sales, I would have deleted the comment and other previous ones too rather than answering the guy's question since it appeared while i was on the thread. If readers want to read about the shows themselves, plan meet-ups, post videos, etc, I'm right along with them. But sometimes - for me and maybe I'm the only one - it gets tedious if there is request after request for pre-sale codes and ticket sales info as has happened in the past. Maybe there should be a separate thread for *those* requests as well, while we're at it? That way, the actual shows and everything related are in one place, and those posting "Anyone have any pre-sale codes for The Beacon..." etc can go to one place to get that info separate from the other info. It could be better for all concerned.

So it's my opinion that is objectionable, or the fact that I express opinions at all? Again, this was already addressed by other mods, and some would say there have been numerous posters past and present (and possibly future) who have openly suggested people were idiots for daring to post questions they were apparently supposed to know before asking, and that was acceptable? Even if it wasn't they got away with it, right? So my opinions have to be withheld, even though previous mods did not have anywhere near that restrictions, and I have to identify who I'm posting as before entering a debate or discussion?

I guess if someone agrees with the sentiment or the opinion, it's acceptable. If not, it's not. Am I reading that correctly? It feels like selective outrage, to be quite honest, considering some things that happened in the past 10 years on this board where no one seemed to take issue and those that did were dismissed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 02:35:24 PM
I'm growing increasingly desperate, do you guys think there's ANY chance of me finding a Meet and Greet pack for Seattle on Oct 8?

Try these links, Liam. I only had to search the venue website and another related search to find the first link, which appears to be offering the Meet N Greet packages, however it does specifically say "no tickets are currently available" so it's probably sold out (?)

http://protected.tickets.com/buy/TicketOnsale?agency=STG_VIP6&orgid=30247&poid=126076 (http://protected.tickets.com/buy/TicketOnsale?agency=STG_VIP6&orgid=30247&poid=126076)

http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?pid=8184119&orgid=30247&mkt_code=SOCIAL (http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?pid=8184119&orgid=30247&mkt_code=SOCIAL)

And if that doesn't get you what you're looking for, try if you haven't done so already to call the venue direct, here is their link with contact info:
http://www.stgpresents.org/tickets/eventdetail/2495/-/ (http://www.stgpresents.org/tickets/eventdetail/2495/-/)

And if nothing is available i guess the only outlet left would be searching the brokers and re-sellers if they have any VIP packages available.


Yeah alas I seem to have exhausted my options, I'll hold off for another month or two at which point I'll just buy a regular ticket if I haven't found anything

I have no idea if the tickets for the VIP have sold out already, or have not gone on sale yet - Have you checked with the venue itself? If not I'd definitely give them a call this week and see if they've even opened up the sales for the VIP packages yet. If you have already, then I'm guessing that's pretty much a done deal, because I think those packages at most venues are non-refundable and limited to a certain number, which means it's doubtful any spots will open up.

Best advice all around is call the venue directly, and keep pestering them if they're hedging on the info.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GhostyTMRS on May 22, 2016, 02:42:52 PM
Brian has given multiple interviews where he talk about pitch correction and how great it is to go back fix a bad note here and there and make everything perfect. The idea that this upsets some "purists" is ridiculous to me. Why wouldn't he use it? If that's what Brian wants to do, then it's fine by me. I'll take Brian's opinion over the "purists" any day.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Juice Brohnston on May 22, 2016, 02:43:25 PM
Hey guitar fool, are you a moderator over at the official Brian Wilson site board? There was some discussion of it in a sandbox thread, but I was confused as to whether it was you or someone else.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 22, 2016, 02:46:29 PM
Juice Brohnston, Ghosty TMRS, guitarfool2002, no disrespect intended to the various points you are discussing, but would you mind discussing them here:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23872.msg577656/topicseen.html#msg577656


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 22, 2016, 02:53:23 PM
Brian has given multiple interviews where he talk about pitch correction and how great it is to go back fix a bad note here and there and make everything perfect. The idea that this upsets some "purists" is ridiculous to me. Why wouldn't he use it? If that's what Brian wants to do, then it's fine by me. I'll take Brian's opinion over the "purists" any day.
Autotune, pitch correction has never bothered me on any of the studio product, but I think that the C50 Live album used it to terrible effect.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 02:57:03 PM
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What?

Keep in mind who defended you when the majority of posters commenting to your own thread about hating Mike Love were accusing you of trolling, of deliberately stirring up the sh*t to cause problems, and demanding that the thread be locked/deleted. And I honestly don't remember, but there may have even been calls to ban the thread's author, one Iain Lee. I remember it well because knowing who you were and knowing your previous interviews and general fan enthusiasm for music like The Monkees (which I share), you were getting a raw deal and I was one who tried to show support. And you were not banned, the thread was not deleted despite calls to do so, and lo and behold the truth of who you really were did come out. Did anyone apologize for getting it wrong, or for suggesting things based on false or untrue information about you or your motives?

If not, join the club.  :) 

I also hope my positive comments directed your way, as written to another board member who you know, reached you as well, because I basically said I hoped all was well with you especially with what you had been dealing with earlier this year, and hoped you would reconsider coming back to have a dialogue about your article, despite those accusing you of trolling and worse and the reactions it generated, some of which were very out of line.

So I'm hoping in light of the reality of my own support of what you went through being called a troll and worse and blamed for things you were not doing, you're not trying to pin the hypothetical death of this board on me personally, because that would be a real kick in the ass on many levels. And I was, honestly, 100% sincere in what I said and hoped would reach your eyes or ears as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 03:03:54 PM
Brian has given multiple interviews where he talk about pitch correction and how great it is to go back fix a bad note here and there and make everything perfect. The idea that this upsets some "purists" is ridiculous to me. Why wouldn't he use it? If that's what Brian wants to do, then it's fine by me. I'll take Brian's opinion over the "purists" any day.

That's fine! It's also different from suggesting the over-use of that or any effect ruined the album, or was used overbearingly to the point where it colored every track. For those who have actually used the various technologies, whether it be Autotune or Melodyne or the old step/increment manual shifting on older versions of the recording programs...I will cop to personally using it on a pedal steel track I played which was a large gliss up the neck that landed *just flat* of the pitches I wanted, but literally no one would notice and that's how any pitch correction should be used unless you want the deliberate effect...this overuse of the effect to the point it ruins the album just isn't there.

I agree on the C50 live. However keep in mind the more off-key a vocal especially is, the more the effect will kick in and the harder it is to use transparently. Also keep in mind pitch correction is used (and has been used since the days of the Eventide and early samplers) to pitch everything from a bassline to a snare drum hit. Most times, to most listeners, they would have no idea what was corrected or what wasn't. Unless the desired result was deliberately overusing it for effect.

OK, back on topic!  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 03:10:50 PM
Hey guitar fool, are you a moderator over at the official Brian Wilson site board? There was some discussion of it in a sandbox thread, but I was confused as to whether it was you or someone else.

It's a stalker.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: IainLee on May 22, 2016, 03:13:32 PM
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What?

Keep in mind who defended you when the majority of posters commenting to your own thread about hating Mike Love were accusing you of trolling, of deliberately stirring up the sh*t to cause problems, and demanding that the thread be locked/deleted. And I honestly don't remember, but there may have even been calls to ban the thread's author, one Iain Lee. I remember it well because knowing who you were and knowing your previous interviews and general fan enthusiasm for music like The Monkees (which I share), you were getting a raw deal and I was one who tried to show support. And you were not banned, the thread was not deleted despite calls to do so, and lo and behold the truth of who you really were did come out. Did anyone apologize for getting it wrong, or for suggesting things based on false or untrue information about you or your motives?

If not, join the club.  :)  

I also hope my positive comments directed your way, as written to another board member who you know, reached you as well, because I basically said I hoped all was well with you especially with what you had been dealing with earlier this year, and hoped you would reconsider coming back to have a dialogue about your article, despite those accusing you of trolling and worse and the reactions it generated, some of which were very out of line.

So I'm hoping in light of the reality of my own support of what you went through being called a troll and worse and blamed for things you were not doing, you're not trying to pin the hypothetical death of this board on me personally, because that would be a real kick in the ass on many levels. And I was, honestly, 100% sincere in what I said and hoped would reach your eyes or ears as well.

Ok

No. It wasn't a dig at you. At all. But. This whole thread is an embarrassment to Beach Boys fandom. I came here to see what people thought of last nights Palladium show. Instead I have To wade through pages of off topic rants from various people. I could not care less about who is banned or why. I want to know if people dug Funky Pretty as much as me. That's it.

I never hid who I was on this message board. That's why I always use my real name on message boards. Always.

No. I never got your message. At least I don't think I did. Thank you though. It is appreciated.

And I'm fine. I can take a few people calling me a troll or whatever. I know I'm not. My question was a genuine one to try and unpick people's attitudes to Mike, a lyricist, performer and singer I happen to have a lot of respect for. I think Mike love is brilliant. I love Kokomo. Could not care less if that upsets people.

Seriously, you all need to chill. I agree with Enily, none of this should be in this thread. Or maybe it should. Really, I don't care. I just think a lot of people are looking silly. And it's stuff like this that scares ME away from contributing. I can't speak for others.  Only myself.

Anyway, now I've contributed more to this off topic theme. I apologise. So. Let's see if I can bring it back.

Last night was a joy. Loved seeing Brian at the Palladium. As I said, his voice was perhaps croakier than I've seen in the past, but he seemed to be into it. He made a few jokes and chatted to the audience. Al seemed to get a little upset that the autocue wasn't working for him on This Whole World but part of me dod think 'this song is over 40 years old, learn the words Al'

Still, his voice is incredible. He's lost a tiny bit of his higher register but he really has still got a great voice. Rhonda just rocked it. My son fell asleep during Pet Sounds (he's 6) so for the encore I was carrying a sleeping child while doing my best to dance.

And again, I feel blessed to have seen Blondie singing Sail On Sailor and a few more. The Flame period of BBhistorh is I think my favourite, not necessarily in terms of musical output but just because it seems like such a nuts time.

Darian was missed. I thought the band lacked a little oomph. But. That may just be me.

As always at a BB or BW gig, a great atmosphere before and during and I ended up chatting to a lot of people from around the world.

I was sat next to a French guy who was surprised at how little security there was.  He's used to seeing shows in Paris after those awful attacks where apparently everyone going into a venue now is patted down

A great night and my son made me spend a fortune on merch. Ooh. They were selling the "Help Me Rhond" t shirt that Brian wore in the 70's. Very cool piece of niche merch

Anyone else there? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Peace to everyone. I'm gonna keep quiet on everything else. Don't want to get trolled or booted off.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 22, 2016, 03:46:27 PM
So I'm responding to a statement that was similar to hearing a comment about "Chevrolet tires", it wasn't lining up to me because Pro Tools is not pitch correction, it's recording/mixing/editing software and pitch correction plug-ins are separate items to install. What was he talking about exactly, editing? Comping vocal tracks? Pitching up a trailing vocal note at the end of a phrase? If it were more definite I'd have a more definite answer, but Cam's wording of "Pro Tools pitch correction" is like "Chevrolet tires" to me, and I don't know what he's referring to, or whether Cam can clarify more on what Brian was referring to in that podcast interview.

With that out of the way...

You could have listened to the entire interview and heard Brian's own words in the time it took you to post whatever that was.  Did you listen to Brian's own words and did I misstate it?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 03:56:36 PM
So I'm responding to a statement that was similar to hearing a comment about "Chevrolet tires", it wasn't lining up to me because Pro Tools is not pitch correction, it's recording/mixing/editing software and pitch correction plug-ins are separate items to install. What was he talking about exactly, editing? Comping vocal tracks? Pitching up a trailing vocal note at the end of a phrase? If it were more definite I'd have a more definite answer, but Cam's wording of "Pro Tools pitch correction" is like "Chevrolet tires" to me, and I don't know what he's referring to, or whether Cam can clarify more on what Brian was referring to in that podcast interview.

With that out of the way...

You could have listened to the entire interview and heard Brian's own words in the time it took you to post whatever that was.  Did you listen to Brian's own words and did I misstate it?

I did listen to it - before posting anything about it! That's why I didn't reply immediately and apparently was challenged on why i didn't reply - i had to actually listen first. That's also why I asked if maybe you had more of a clarification on not just what Brian said but your term "Pro Tools pitch correction" which is a misnomer, unless it's referring to a function in Pro Tools that I'm pretty confident most working engineers of the level who would be working a Brian Wilson session would not use, and would instead use one of the plug-ins from other manufacturers that I'd estimate are used in 99 out of 100 working, pro-studio situations. or maybe I'm wrong, maybe the latest updates to Pro Tools as of 2014-15 have something built in, I'm not sure.

I guess it's coming from having actually done work in this area and with some of this software that has me confused about the terminology being used. It's hard to comment either way when I'm not sure exactly what is being described, or what was used and how it was used. I tried to give examples but I guess they didn't suffice.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 22, 2016, 04:30:06 PM
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RIP

What?

Keep in mind who defended you when the majority of posters commenting to your own thread about hating Mike Love were accusing you of trolling, of deliberately stirring up the sh*t to cause problems, and demanding that the thread be locked/deleted. And I honestly don't remember, but there may have even been calls to ban the thread's author, one Iain Lee. I remember it well because knowing who you were and knowing your previous interviews and general fan enthusiasm for music like The Monkees (which I share), you were getting a raw deal and I was one who tried to show support. And you were not banned, the thread was not deleted despite calls to do so, and lo and behold the truth of who you really were did come out. Did anyone apologize for getting it wrong, or for suggesting things based on false or untrue information about you or your motives?

If not, join the club.  :)  

I also hope my positive comments directed your way, as written to another board member who you know, reached you as well, because I basically said I hoped all was well with you especially with what you had been dealing with earlier this year, and hoped you would reconsider coming back to have a dialogue about your article, despite those accusing you of trolling and worse and the reactions it generated, some of which were very out of line.

So I'm hoping in light of the reality of my own support of what you went through being called a troll and worse and blamed for things you were not doing, you're not trying to pin the hypothetical death of this board on me personally, because that would be a real kick in the ass on many levels. And I was, honestly, 100% sincere in what I said and hoped would reach your eyes or ears as well.

Ok

No. It wasn't a dig at you. At all. But. This whole thread is an embarrassment to Beach Boys fandom. I came here to see what people thought of last nights Palladium show. Instead I have To wade through pages of off topic rants from various people. I could not care less about who is banned or why. I want to know if people dug Funky Pretty as much as me. That's it.

I never hid who I was on this message board. That's why I always use my real name on message boards. Always.

No. I never got your message. At least I don't think I did. Thank you though. It is appreciated.

And I'm fine. I can take a few people calling me a troll or whatever. I know I'm not. My question was a genuine one to try and unpick people's attitudes to Mike, a lyricist, performer and singer I happen to have a lot of respect for. I think Mike love is brilliant. I love Kokomo. Could not care less if that upsets people.

Seriously, you all need to chill. I agree with Enily, none of this should be in this thread. Or maybe it should. Really, I don't care. I just think a lot of people are looking silly. And it's stuff like this that scares ME away from contributing. I can't speak for others.  Only myself.

Anyway, now I've contributed more to this off topic theme. I apologise. So. Let's see if I can bring it back.

Last night was a joy. Loved seeing Brian at the Palladium. As I said, his voice was perhaps croakier than I've seen in the past, but he seemed to be into it. He made a few jokes and chatted to the audience. Al seemed to get a little upset that the autocue wasn't working for him on This Whole World but part of me dod think 'this song is over 40 years old, learn the words Al'

Still, his voice is incredible. He's lost a tiny bit of his higher register but he really has still got a great voice. Rhonda just rocked it. My son fell asleep during Pet Sounds (he's 6) so for the encore I was carrying a sleeping child while doing my best to dance.

And again, I feel blessed to have seen Blondie singing Sail On Sailor and a few more. The Flame period of BBhistorh is I think my favourite, not necessarily in terms of musical output but just because it seems like such a nuts time.

Darian was missed. I thought the band lacked a little oomph. But. That may just be me.

As always at a BB or BW gig, a great atmosphere before and during and I ended up chatting to a lot of people from around the world.

I was sat next to a French guy who was surprised at how little security there was.  He's used to seeing shows in Paris after those awful attacks where apparently everyone going into a venue now is patted down

A great night and my son made me spend a fortune on merch. Ooh. They were selling the "Help Me Rhond" t shirt that Brian wore in the 70's. Very cool piece of niche merch

Anyone else there? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Peace to everyone. I'm gonna keep quiet on everything else. Don't want to get trolled or booted off.


Here here!  :-D good review Ian.  A few of us here picked up the "Rhonda" t-shirts last year from a site called 'Red Bubble'.  They have quite a few cool Beach Boys/Brian/Al related merch.

I'm going to see the shows on Thursday and Friday when Brian comes to Scotland.  Really looking forward to it and will post my thoughts then.  Hopefully my seven year old will stay awake.  If she falls asleep During Pet Sounds like your wee one I'll need to wake her for the encore!  :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 04:34:14 PM
Is anyone offering the "Smiley Smile" sweatshirts (the ones with the smiling face like Al is seen wearing in some old band pics) ? I remember about a decade ago or so, someone on one of the boards made either one for himself or a very small run of them but I think that was it, and that would be a great thing to wear to the shows. Especially in the fall when a sweatshirt may be needed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cam Mott on May 22, 2016, 04:34:25 PM
So I'm responding to a statement that was similar to hearing a comment about "Chevrolet tires", it wasn't lining up to me because Pro Tools is not pitch correction, it's recording/mixing/editing software and pitch correction plug-ins are separate items to install. What was he talking about exactly, editing? Comping vocal tracks? Pitching up a trailing vocal note at the end of a phrase? If it were more definite I'd have a more definite answer, but Cam's wording of "Pro Tools pitch correction" is like "Chevrolet tires" to me, and I don't know what he's referring to, or whether Cam can clarify more on what Brian was referring to in that podcast interview.

With that out of the way...

You could have listened to the entire interview and heard Brian's own words in the time it took you to post whatever that was.  Did you listen to Brian's own words and did I misstate it?

I did listen to it - before posting anything about it! That's why I didn't reply immediately and apparently was challenged on why i didn't reply - i had to actually listen first. That's also why I asked if maybe you had more of a clarification on not just what Brian said but your term "Pro Tools pitch correction" which is a misnomer, unless it's referring to a function in Pro Tools that I'm pretty confident most working engineers of the level who would be working a Brian Wilson session would not use, and would instead use one of the plug-ins from other manufacturers that I'd estimate are used in 99 out of 100 working, pro-studio situations. or maybe I'm wrong, maybe the latest updates to Pro Tools as of 2014-15 have something built in, I'm not sure.

I guess it's coming from having actually done work in this area and with some of this software that has me confused about the terminology being used. It's hard to comment either way when I'm not sure exactly what is being described, or what was used and how it was used. I tried to give examples but I guess they didn't suffice.

Then your diversion from Brian's words are even harder to understand.  Your argument isn't with me or my characterization. You have Brian's words, you may direct your arguments to him.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 22, 2016, 04:43:26 PM
Al singing Help Me Rhonda...Damn! The guy hasn't aged a bit in 51 years vocally.

More videos please!!!


Just coming back from two London shows.
I intend to post interesting videos as soon as I get a decent connection.

Please Let Me Wonder added tonight.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 22, 2016, 04:45:05 PM
Is anyone offering the "Smiley Smile" sweatshirts (the ones with the smiling face like Al is seen wearing in some old band pics) ? I remember about a decade ago or so, someone on one of the boards made either one for himself or a very small run of them but I think that was it, and that would be a great thing to wear to the shows. Especially in the fall when a sweatshirt may be needed.

Good idea for a new t-shirt.  Hopefully someone here can make one up for us!  ;D

I can't decide if I should wear a Radiant Radish or Keeping It Clean... t-shirt to the meet and greet this week.  Maybe I'll just wear a new Pet Sounds one I'll pick up the night before.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 22, 2016, 04:49:08 PM
I was at the show last night with my 6 year old boy. His second ever concert

Great seats, second row of the first balcony.

I really enjoyed it. Brian seemed into it. His voice was a little croakier than it has been. Al and Blondie sounded great and a real thrill to hear Blondie sing Funky Pretty.

The band were good. Not the best I've seen. Personally I felt without Jeff or Darian they lacked a little something.

A great night though. My son loved it although he slept through some of the second half.

Just my thoughts.

Oh. And I have no idea what's happened on this board but some of you are coming across as a bit silly and may be scaring casual fans away. Let's just talk about the Beach Boys, huh?


Hey Ian, I noticed a man holding his tired boy in the first balcony. I didn't realized it was you or I would have said hello.  I loved the Lost Initiative!







Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 04:50:48 PM
Al singing Help Me Rhonda...Damn! The guy hasn't aged a bit in 51 years vocally.

More videos please!!!


Just coming back from two London shows.
I intend to post interesting videos as soon as I get a decent connection.

Please Let Me Wonder added tonight.



You just made my night. I cannot wait to hear PLMW, one of my all time favorites. YES!!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 04:53:40 PM
Is anyone offering the "Smiley Smile" sweatshirts (the ones with the smiling face like Al is seen wearing in some old band pics) ? I remember about a decade ago or so, someone on one of the boards made either one for himself or a very small run of them but I think that was it, and that would be a great thing to wear to the shows. Especially in the fall when a sweatshirt may be needed.

Good idea for a new t-shirt.  Hopefully someone here can make one up for us!  ;D

I can't decide if I should wear a Radiant Radish or Keeping It Clean... t-shirt to the meet and greet this week.  Maybe I'll just wear a new Pet Sounds one I'll pick up the night before.

I'll be first in line to buy one, I wish I could remember who it was that originally made them up. I do remember it was almost a spot-on replica of the one Al is wearing in the old pics.

Not having a T-shirt, I instead yell "KEEP IT CLEAN" when Al is introduced or his name is mentioned. Like a lot of fans, I guess.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 22, 2016, 04:56:40 PM
Al singing Help Me Rhonda...Damn! The guy hasn't aged a bit in 51 years vocally.

More videos please!!!


Just coming back from two London shows.
I intend to post interesting videos as soon as I get a decent connection.

Please Let Me Wonder added tonight.



You just made my night. I cannot wait to hear PLMW, one of my all time favorites. YES!!!!

PLMW is basically the most perfect song Brian (and Mike) ever wrote. Absolutely perfect in every way, and a pop gem. Stoked.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 22, 2016, 05:55:49 PM
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RIP

Well then, as they say, don't let the door smack you on the way out. And by the way, that is 110% bull****.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 22, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
Brian has given multiple interviews where he talk about pitch correction and how great it is to go back fix a bad note here and there and make everything perfect. The idea that this upsets some "purists" is ridiculous to me. Why wouldn't he use it? If that's what Brian wants to do, then it's fine by me. I'll take Brian's opinion over the "purists" any day.

Again, it's not that people should necessarily inherently get upset just because some pitch correction was utilized. But doesn't it make sense if, in the eyes and ears of the listener, in their opinion, it seems as though SOME instances of pitch correction on SOME projects are noticeably applied with far greater obviousness, to the point of distraction and annoyance, and that people would be understandably grumbling about that? My opinion on the matter is nuanced, and with pitch correction, the very act of applying it is all about nuance.

I am not in any way annoyed by the pitch correction on Gershwin (I've heard people point it out that it's apparent here and there), and even if one listens real closely to hear it on that album, it's barely perceptible, and IMHO not in any way worthy of grumbling annoyance.

It just so happens that the Joe Thomas-produced albums all have pitch correction applied in a (much) more clunky way. It *should* be mostly invisible (that's the whole point!)... but it's not. To me, the fact that it's mainly just on Joe co-productions means that's a sign of either Joe, or someone who is a studio assistant... whoever would have actually been the person to apply the pitch correction (which is absolutely an art)... doing their job in a manner that I think is not quite up to par. Again, IMHO. Very similar to how CG is used in movies. Sometimes it's done SO well, it's completely not apparent in the slightest, and other times, it's clearly not done by someone with the same skill level, or by someone with different taste than the viewer. It's silly to say all CG or all pitch correction is inherently "evil", but it can very often be used sloppily, in which case it's off-putting.

Brian's not the one at the computer adding splines to waveforms and doing the pitch correction himself.  Granted, Brian approves the albums, and I'm sure he could step in and say that the pitch correction is wrong and needs fixing, if he thought that pitch correction was done poorly by the engineer. I'm sure some pitch correction revisions on Brian productions have happened at some point in the studio. But I think Brian has given so, so, so much of himself to records in the past, that these days, it likely easier for him emotionally to just let stuff like that go. I'll cut him some slack on that. Thus, I place most of the "blame" on whoever did the actual pitch correction. It's possible to do it well (Gershwin, possibly TLOS?). There is a precedent. It just takes work.

Also, I should add that lots of modern pop albums are very blatant in their use of pitch correction (in a manner that I absolutely despise), and so I could easily see that people like Joe get caught up in that mindset of commercial music needing to sound a certain way, and that his albums intentionally lay the pitch correction on thick out of the misguided notion that this is the way things are actually SUPPOSED to be.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 22, 2016, 07:09:08 PM
Brian has given multiple interviews where he talk about pitch correction and how great it is to go back fix a bad note here and there and make everything perfect. The idea that this upsets some "purists" is ridiculous to me. Why wouldn't he use it? If that's what Brian wants to do, then it's fine by me. I'll take Brian's opinion over the "purists" any day.
Autotune, pitch correction has never bothered me on any of the studio product, but I think that the C50 Live album used it to terrible effect.

I really have to think that this is partially (if not largely) the result of the very bitter implosion of the reunion and tour. I could very easily imagine that all band members gave not many f*cks about the quality control of this particular release.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 07:21:03 PM
Brian has given multiple interviews where he talk about pitch correction and how great it is to go back fix a bad note here and there and make everything perfect. The idea that this upsets some "purists" is ridiculous to me. Why wouldn't he use it? If that's what Brian wants to do, then it's fine by me. I'll take Brian's opinion over the "purists" any day.
Autotune, pitch correction has never bothered me on any of the studio product, but I think that the C50 Live album used it to terrible effect.

I really have to think that this is partially (if not largely) the result of the very bitter implosion of the reunion and tour. I could very easily imagine that all band members gave not many f*cks about the quality control of this particular release.

Maybe some of the live performances were not up to par pitch wise, and instead of calling in whatever vocalist(s) may have been off key to fix the parts in the studio after the fact, the pitch correction was applied. The more off key the notes, especially in a long phrase, the harder the program will work to correct it. Or maybe some just signed off on it without giving it much thought or care as you said, in order to be done with it and move on, who knows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 22, 2016, 07:23:54 PM
Brian has given multiple interviews where he talk about pitch correction and how great it is to go back fix a bad note here and there and make everything perfect. The idea that this upsets some "purists" is ridiculous to me. Why wouldn't he use it? If that's what Brian wants to do, then it's fine by me. I'll take Brian's opinion over the "purists" any day.
Autotune, pitch correction has never bothered me on any of the studio product, but I think that the C50 Live album used it to terrible effect.

I really have to think that this is partially (if not largely) the result of the very bitter implosion of the reunion and tour. I could very easily imagine that all band members gave not many f*cks about the quality control of this particular release.

That album still gets me. 40 plus songs, 5 BeachBoys singing leads etc, and it's unlistenable. WTF were those listed as being involved plus Capitol thinking? And they wonder why people go pirate!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 22, 2016, 07:34:04 PM
I wish there would be a release of the last C50 shows from the UK, Royal Albert Hall, unaltered and undoctored like all those Pearl Jam concert releases they put out. I watch that one specific video clip of Brian singing Please Let Me Wonder and hitting that falsetto note at the end as part of my regular "make me smile" inspiration all the time.

What I said in an earlier thread is still valid but for a lot of fans here seems difficult to rectify, the live album remains highly rated on Amazon and most people commenting seem to really enjoy it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 22, 2016, 07:41:16 PM
If there was a live album in the works, I'd love to mix it. The officially released live C50 was just a complete mess, and I personally felt they deserved better. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 22, 2016, 08:22:22 PM
In hindsight it should have been given a few years as the Led Zep Celebration Day projects (5 years). Clearer heads and time could have cherry picked the best cuts and put together a great project.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 22, 2016, 08:36:04 PM
If there was a live album in the works, I'd love to mix it. The officially released live C50 was just a complete mess, and I personally felt they deserved better.  

They certainly, absolutely deserved way better. But I would tend to think that perhaps Mike would in hindsight wish that C50 had never even happened, because of the tidal wave of animosity he received, justified or not, for the way it ended. I don't think remotely he got out of the reunion what he went in seeking. And probably at the time of the live album's release was at the peak of the bad vibes from the post-C50 fallout, which was almost exclusively centered on him.

Maybe this is reaching a bit, but it occurs to me like this album is perhaps like Mike's version of a SMiLE project - a project he apparently initiated (the reunion) wound up ending abruptly, and this album may have been something he just avoided dealing with and didn't even want to touch with a 10-foot pole, especially just months after. The fact that a contractual obligation to release a live album was probably the only reason this got released.

I just can't see any of the guys, including Brian, but perhaps especially Mike, having been actually *motivated* to make sure a really killer, exceptional document of the tour would get produced. I'm not sure I can even imagine them having been motivated to listen to it at all, even once! Compare to the 2014 release of "Keep An Eye On Summer", where clearly painstaking work was done, and many f*cks were given by the brilliant producers/compilers involved. The C50 CD/DVD stands in complete contrast, and I really can't imagine that the C50 fallout wasn't a factor in that.

That said, I will also say that the pitch correction on the Knebworth 1980 official release (especially Mike on California Girls) is excruciating to my ears. And that doesn't seem to have anything to do with bad vibes over a project. So maybe my C50 theory isn't entirely true, and that it's just something where both Mike and Brian sign off on stuff like this because they get talked into it, and leave the work (and the subjective opinion on quality control of pitch correction) to the engineers. But even aside from the pitch correction stuff on the C50 album, it also just suffers from seeming not up to par in other ways. I've actually not purchased either the CD or DVD because I don't want to listen to/watch a subpar product, and that's saying something because I buy basically every BB release. Even NASCAR.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on May 22, 2016, 08:51:47 PM
If there was a live album in the works, I'd love to mix it. The officially released live C50 was just a complete mess, and I personally felt they deserved better.  

They certainly, absolutely deserved way better. But I would tend to think that perhaps Mike would in hindsight wish that C50 had never even happened, because of the tidal wave of animosity he received, justified or not, for the way it ended. I don't think remotely he got out of the reunion what he went in seeking. And probably at the time of the live album's release was at the peak of the bad vibes from the post-C50 fallout, which was almost exclusively centered on him.

Maybe this is reaching a bit, but it occurs to me like this album is perhaps like Mike's version of a SMiLE project - a project he apparently initiated (the reunion) wound up ending abruptly, and this album may have been something he just avoided dealing with and didn't even want to touch with a 10-foot pole, especially just months after. The fact that a contractual obligation to release a live album was probably the only reason this got released.

I just can't see any of the guys, including Brian, but perhaps especially Mike, having been actually *motivated* to make sure a really killer, exceptional document of the tour would get produced. I'm not sure I can even imagine them having been motivated to listen to it at all, even once! Compare to the 2014 release of "Keep An Eye On Summer", where clearly painstaking work was done, and many f*cks were given by the brilliant producers/compilers involved. The C50 CD/DVD stands in complete contrast, and I really can't imagine that the C50 fallout wasn't a factor in that.

That said, I will also say that the pitch correction on the Knebworth 1980 official release (especially Mike on California Girls) is excruciating to my ears. And that doesn't seem to have anything to do with bad vibes over a project. So maybe my C50 theory isn't entirely true, and that it's just something where both Mike and Brian sign off on stuff like this because they get talked into it, and leave the work (and the subjective opinion on quality control of pitch correction) to the engineers. But even aside from the pitch correction stuff on the C50 album, it also just suffers from seeming not up to par in other ways. I've actually not purchased either the CD or DVD because I don't want to listen to/watch a subpar product, and that's saying something because I buy basically every BB release. Even NASCAR.

You are probably right about them giving zero f*cks about the live album.  However, the studio album tells me that the live album may have turned out the way it did even if the reunion didn't end.  More than a fair amount of obvious pitch correction on it, imo.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 22, 2016, 09:13:01 PM
If there was a live album in the works, I'd love to mix it. The officially released live C50 was just a complete mess, and I personally felt they deserved better.  

They certainly, absolutely deserved way better. But I would tend to think that perhaps Mike would in hindsight wish that C50 had never even happened, because of the tidal wave of animosity he received, justified or not, for the way it ended. I don't think remotely he got out of the reunion what he went in seeking. And probably at the time of the live album's release was at the peak of the bad vibes from the post-C50 fallout, which was almost exclusively centered on him.

Maybe this is reaching a bit, but it occurs to me like this album is perhaps like Mike's version of a SMiLE project - a project he apparently initiated (the reunion) wound up ending abruptly, and this album may have been something he just avoided dealing with and didn't even want to touch with a 10-foot pole, especially just months after. The fact that a contractual obligation to release a live album was probably the only reason this got released.

I just can't see any of the guys, including Brian, but perhaps especially Mike, having been actually *motivated* to make sure a really killer, exceptional document of the tour would get produced. I'm not sure I can even imagine them having been motivated to listen to it at all, even once! Compare to the 2014 release of "Keep An Eye On Summer", where clearly painstaking work was done, and many f*cks were given by the brilliant producers/compilers involved. The C50 CD/DVD stands in complete contrast, and I really can't imagine that the C50 fallout wasn't a factor in that.

That said, I will also say that the pitch correction on the Knebworth 1980 official release (especially Mike on California Girls) is excruciating to my ears. And that doesn't seem to have anything to do with bad vibes over a project. So maybe my C50 theory isn't entirely true, and that it's just something where both Mike and Brian sign off on stuff like this because they get talked into it, and leave the work (and the subjective opinion on quality control of pitch correction) to the engineers. But even aside from the pitch correction stuff on the C50 album, it also just suffers from seeming not up to par in other ways. I've actually not purchased either the CD or DVD because I don't want to listen to/watch a subpar product, and that's saying something because I buy basically every BB release. Even NASCAR.

You are probably right about them giving zero f*cks about the live album.  However, the studio album tells me that the live album may have turned out the way it did even if the reunion didn't end.  More than a fair amount of obvious pitch correction on it, imo.

Entirely possible. Yet I think that if there would've been a chance that some of the band members would have come back into the studio to re-record certain vocal parts, kind of how they did back in 1964  for the live Concert album... that scenario would only have had a chance of happening if the reunion had continued. Regardless, there could've always been someone saying "nah, don't worry about coming in to re-record it... A little Autotune'll fix that"  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 22, 2016, 09:29:05 PM
Can we keep this thread ON TOPIC, please???  I'm trying to follow this tour, not keep up with people's petty personal conflicts or discussions of autotune. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 22, 2016, 09:29:49 PM
Al singing Help Me Rhonda...Damn! The guy hasn't aged a bit in 51 years vocally.

More videos please!!!


Just coming back from two London shows.
I intend to post interesting videos as soon as I get a decent connection.

Please Let Me Wonder added tonight.



That's a cool addition...  it's one track I really wished they had played in Japan!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 22, 2016, 09:35:23 PM
Can we keep this thread ON TOPIC, please???  I'm trying to follow this tour, not keep up with people's petty personal conflicts or discussions of autotune. 


Agreed. New thread started.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23875.msg577746.html#msg577746


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on May 22, 2016, 09:39:38 PM
If there was a live album in the works, I'd love to mix it. The officially released live C50 was just a complete mess, and I personally felt they deserved better.  

They certainly, absolutely deserved way better. But I would tend to think that perhaps Mike would in hindsight wish that C50 had never even happened, because of the tidal wave of animosity he received, justified or not, for the way it ended. I don't think remotely he got out of the reunion what he went in seeking. And probably at the time of the live album's release was at the peak of the bad vibes from the post-C50 fallout, which was almost exclusively centered on him.

Maybe this is reaching a bit, but it occurs to me like this album is perhaps like Mike's version of a SMiLE project - a project he apparently initiated (the reunion) wound up ending abruptly, and this album may have been something he just avoided dealing with and didn't even want to touch with a 10-foot pole, especially just months after. The fact that a contractual obligation to release a live album was probably the only reason this got released.

I just can't see any of the guys, including Brian, but perhaps especially Mike, having been actually *motivated* to make sure a really killer, exceptional document of the tour would get produced. I'm not sure I can even imagine them having been motivated to listen to it at all, even once! Compare to the 2014 release of "Keep An Eye On Summer", where clearly painstaking work was done, and many f*cks were given by the brilliant producers/compilers involved. The C50 CD/DVD stands in complete contrast, and I really can't imagine that the C50 fallout wasn't a factor in that.

That said, I will also say that the pitch correction on the Knebworth 1980 official release (especially Mike on California Girls) is excruciating to my ears. And that doesn't seem to have anything to do with bad vibes over a project. So maybe my C50 theory isn't entirely true, and that it's just something where both Mike and Brian sign off on stuff like this because they get talked into it, and leave the work (and the subjective opinion on quality control of pitch correction) to the engineers. But even aside from the pitch correction stuff on the C50 album, it also just suffers from seeming not up to par in other ways. I've actually not purchased either the CD or DVD because I don't want to listen to/watch a subpar product, and that's saying something because I buy basically every BB release. Even NASCAR.

You are probably right about them giving zero f*cks about the live album.  However, the studio album tells me that the live album may have turned out the way it did even if the reunion didn't end.  More than a fair amount of obvious pitch correction on it, imo.

Entirely possible. Yet I think that if there would've been a chance that some of the band members would have come back into the studio to re-record certain vocal parts, kind of how they did back in 1964  for the live Concert album... that scenario would only have had a chance of happening if the reunion had continued. Regardless, there could've always been someone saying "nah, don't worry about coming in to re-record it... A little Autotune'll fix that"  ;D

No doubt it could have happened, but I don't think that would have went over well with fans, either.  I'd have to go back and listen to the CD and regular fan footage from the same shows (if they're still out there), but I remember doing the comparison previously and thinking that there was no reason for autotune to be used on Mike and Brian's voices in many instances.  So I think our pal Joe just slapped it on for whatever reason.  At least someone got the message to him that it wasn't a good idea as it was dialed way back for No Pier Pressure.

My last post on this topic in this thread as I know it needs to get back on topic!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Custom Machine on May 23, 2016, 12:23:52 AM
Juice Brohnston, Ghosty TMRS, guitarfool2002, no disrespect intended to the various points you are discussing, but would you mind discussing them here:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23872.msg577656/topicseen.html#msg577656

This thread has me pulling my hair out and screaming in frustration.

I vote for Emily becoming a moderator. I have no idea if you are interested in such a role, Emily, but you are a calm voice of reason around here, while the non-stop tit for tat posts are pulling the discussion off topic and do noting but serve to derail the thread. I can't imagine why someone new to the board would want to wade through such childish nonsense, not to mention those of us who are long time members.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 23, 2016, 12:26:19 AM
Juice Brohnston, Ghosty TMRS, guitarfool2002, no disrespect intended to the various points you are discussing, but would you mind discussing them here:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23872.msg577656/topicseen.html#msg577656

This thread has me pulling my hair out and screaming in frustration.

I vote for Emily becoming a moderator. I have no idea if you are interested in such a role, Emily, but you are a calm voice of reason around here, while the non-stop tit for tat posts are pulling the discussion off topic and do noting but serve to derail the thread. I can't imagine why someone new to the board would want to wade through such childish nonsense, not to mention those of us who are long time members.


http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23872.msg577752.html#msg577752 (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23872.msg577752.html#msg577752)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SamMcK on May 23, 2016, 12:40:35 AM
(http://s33.postimg.org/933u2dx3j/IMG_0441.jpg)
I must say that I really enjoyed myself last night. :)

- I know it's stated a lot but Al can REALLY belt it out still, its ridiculous how he sounds just as good as he did 40 years ago.
- Matt Jardine is an incredible addition to the band, and for me personally.. a big improvement on Foskett's whinier, bellowing falsetto. (IMO)
- Brian seemed to be having fun and looked really relaxed at different moments throughout.
- Al's performance of Help Me Rhonda was the clear favourite of the night, everyone was dancing their asses off for that one!
- As it should be, God Only Knows got a huge ovation.
- Paul Von Merten's stole the show on numerous occasions.
- The crowd gave a most British rendition of Happy Birthday for Nikki Wonder. ;D
- Funky Pretty! Wow! Talk about deep cuts!
- Blondie was an absolute rock star on stage. That version of Wild Honey could have gone on forever as far as I was concerned.
- This was one of the most respectful audiences I remember witnessing at a Live Show for a major act. Everyone was so supportive of Brian and the band. Every song got huge applause.
- It should be pretty obvious, but the Palladium is an absolutely beautiful venue.
- I would have liked to see some more songs post-Holland, besides Love & Mercy there's a solid gap of 42 years between songs!
- Brian's voice isn't as good as it was a few years ago, but the way he's going I could honestly see him doing this for another 10 years if he wanted to. (Although if anyone deserves a rest from touring, it should be him)
- It was lovely to see some gems like Wake The World and Add Some Music get played, I wish we could have heard Honkin' Down The Highway though!
- Brian's sense of humour came out tonight, and there were some unintentionally quite funny moments. One example is when they introduced the band one by one to audience applause, and then Brian ends up coming out at the same time as Al Jardine anyway. :lol
- Matt's lead on Don't Worry Baby was perfect.
- Despite his vocal vulnerability, Brian still has a good mid range when needed, such as on Good Vibrations.
- Although i'm fortunate to get to see the band in the US in July, I really hope this isn't the last time they come to the UK. I'd love a SMiLE tour, but a part of me would just love a new album tour. (Especially with Joe Thomas out of the picture)

All in all, an excellent night. :)

(http://s33.postimg.org/3rtkiycwf/IMG_0442.png)

I took a video of God Only Knows too, not amazing quality, but I had to capture part of that experience for myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on0mBEz5TTE&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 23, 2016, 12:51:50 AM
(http://s33.postimg.org/933u2dx3j/IMG_0441.jpg)
I must say that I really enjoyed myself last night. :)

- I know it's stated a lot but Al can REALLY belt it out still, its ridiculous how he sounds just as good as he did 40 years ago.
- Matt Jardine is an incredible addition to the band, and for me personally.. a big improvement on Foskett's whinier, bellowing falsetto. (IMO)
- Brian seemed to be having fun and looked really relaxed at different moments throughout.
- Al's performance of Help Me Rhonda was the clear favourite of the night, everyone was dancing their asses off for that one!
- As it should be, God Only Knows got a huge ovation.
- Paul Von Merten's stole the show on numerous occasions.
- The crowd gave a most British rendition of Happy Birthday for Nikki Wonder. ;D
- Funky Pretty! Wow! Talk about deep cuts!
- Blondie was an absolute rock star on stage. That version of Wild Honey could have gone on forever as far as I was concerned.
- This was one of the most respectful audiences I remember witnessing at a Live Show for a major act. Everyone was so supportive of Brian and the band. Every song got huge applause.
- It should be pretty obvious, but the Palladium is an absolutely beautiful venue.
- I would have liked to see some more songs post-Holland, besides Love & Mercy there's a solid gap of 42 years between songs!
- Brian's voice isn't as good as it was a few years ago, but the way he's going I could honestly see him doing this for another 10 years if he wanted to. (Although if anyone deserves a rest from touring, it should be him)
- It was lovely to see some gems like Wake The World and Add Some Music get played, I wish we could have heard Honkin' Down The Highway though!
- Brian's sense of humour came out tonight, and there were some unintentionally quite funny moments. One example is when they introduced the band one by one to audience applause, and then Brian ends up coming out at the same time as Al Jardine anyway. :lol
- Matt's lead on Don't Worry Baby was perfect.
- Despite his vocal vulnerability, Brian still has a good mid range when needed, such as on Good Vibrations.
- Although i'm fortunate to get to see the band in the US in July, I really hope this isn't the last time they come to the UK. I'd love a SMiLE tour, but a part of me would just love a new album tour. (Especially with Joe Thomas out of the picture)

All in all, an excellent night. :)

(http://s33.postimg.org/3rtkiycwf/IMG_0442.png)

I took a video of God Only Knows too, not amazing quality, but I had to capture part of that experience for myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on0mBEz5TTE&feature=youtu.be

Awesome. Have to ask - Did they do Please Let Me Wonder?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Aomdiddlywalla on May 23, 2016, 12:55:56 AM
Is anyone offering the "Smiley Smile" sweatshirts (the ones with the smiling face like Al is seen wearing in some old band pics) ? I remember about a decade ago or so, someone on one of the boards made either one for himself or a very small run of them but I think that was it, and that would be a great thing to wear to the shows. Especially in the fall when a sweatshirt may be needed.

I have one...  T shirt version.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SamMcK on May 23, 2016, 01:04:22 AM
Awesome. Have to ask - Did they do Please Let Me Wonder?

Yep, it was a great performance! The setlist is already up, 40 songs in total:

Quote
Set 1:

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Please Let Me Wonder
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World
Add Some Music to Your Day
Cotton Fields
Do It Again
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail On, Sailor

Set 2: Pet Sounds

Wouldn't It Be Nice
You Still Believe in Me
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
I'm Waiting for the Day
Let's Go Away for Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There's an Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No

Encore:

Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me, Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' U.S.A.
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love and Mercy

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-33fea005.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 23, 2016, 01:05:00 AM
Is anyone offering the "Smiley Smile" sweatshirts (the ones with the smiling face like Al is seen wearing in some old band pics) ? I remember about a decade ago or so, someone on one of the boards made either one for himself or a very small run of them but I think that was it, and that would be a great thing to wear to the shows. Especially in the fall when a sweatshirt may be needed.

I have one...  T shirt version.

Nice!!! Where did you get it, and can they still be ordered? I missed out when they first appeared and have regretted not trying to get one for years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on May 23, 2016, 01:06:07 AM
Awesome. Have to ask - Did they do Please Let Me Wonder?

Yep, it was a great performance! The setlist is already up:

Quote
Set 1:

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Please Let Me Wonder
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World
Add Some Music to Your Day
Cotton Fields
Do It Again
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail On, Sailor

Set 2: Pet Sounds

Wouldn't It Be Nice
You Still Believe in Me
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
I'm Waiting for the Day
Let's Go Away for Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There's an Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No

Encore:

Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me, Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' U.S.A.
Play Video
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love and Mercy

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-33fea005.html

That's great, thank you! And thanks for sharing your review too!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: T2458 on May 23, 2016, 01:40:13 AM
(http://s33.postimg.org/933u2dx3j/IMG_0441.jpg)
I must say that I really enjoyed myself last night. :)

- I know it's stated a lot but Al can REALLY belt it out still, its ridiculous how he sounds just as good as he did 40 years ago.
- Matt Jardine is an incredible addition to the band, and for me personally.. a big improvement on Foskett's whinier, bellowing falsetto. (IMO)
- Brian seemed to be having fun and looked really relaxed at different moments throughout.
- Al's performance of Help Me Rhonda was the clear favourite of the night, everyone was dancing their asses off for that one!
- As it should be, God Only Knows got a huge ovation.
- Paul Von Merten's stole the show on numerous occasions.
- The crowd gave a most British rendition of Happy Birthday for Nikki Wonder. ;D
- Funky Pretty! Wow! Talk about deep cuts!
- Blondie was an absolute rock star on stage. That version of Wild Honey could have gone on forever as far as I was concerned.
- This was one of the most respectful audiences I remember witnessing at a Live Show for a major act. Everyone was so supportive of Brian and the band. Every song got huge applause.
- It should be pretty obvious, but the Palladium is an absolutely beautiful venue.
- I would have liked to see some more songs post-Holland, besides Love & Mercy there's a solid gap of 42 years between songs!
- Brian's voice isn't as good as it was a few years ago, but the way he's going I could honestly see him doing this for another 10 years if he wanted to. (Although if anyone deserves a rest from touring, it should be him)
- It was lovely to see some gems like Wake The World and Add Some Music get played, I wish we could have heard Honkin' Down The Highway though!
- Brian's sense of humour came out tonight, and there were some unintentionally quite funny moments. One example is when they introduced the band one by one to audience applause, and then Brian ends up coming out at the same time as Al Jardine anyway. :lol
- Matt's lead on Don't Worry Baby was perfect.
- Despite his vocal vulnerability, Brian still has a good mid range when needed, such as on Good Vibrations.
- Although i'm fortunate to get to see the band in the US in July, I really hope this isn't the last time they come to the UK. I'd love a SMiLE tour, but a part of me would just love a new album tour. (Especially with Joe Thomas out of the picture)

All in all, an excellent night. :)

(http://s33.postimg.org/3rtkiycwf/IMG_0442.png)

I took a video of God Only Knows too, not amazing quality, but I had to capture part of that experience for myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on0mBEz5TTE&feature=youtu.be


Thanks for the review - thought I'd quote it again as that seems to fill the pages up on this site.  Really envious that you got "Please let me wonder" and "Cottonfields" - we definitely got short changed on Friday.

Also great that you squeezed in a London review despite the obvious and deliberate blocking of this topic over the last week or more.  It's been very difficult to appreciate what happened on a key part of the tour until your note appeared.

Cheerio


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 23, 2016, 03:21:49 AM
Wow, this is getting pretty off-topic.

Perhaps a mod could come in and redirect the conversation back to this year's great tour?

You're  joking, aren't you? This show has legs.  However, maybe we could switch all this thrust and parry to an Ask Guitarfool thread before yet another nail is hammered  into the board's coffin and we can get back to the topic in hand...

A thread to talk or a thread to blame me for everything perceived to be wrong with this board?  :)

I'm curious who either provided the nails or swung the hammer on the number of Beach Boys related boards in the past that either imploded or simply fell apart (or never got off the ground). Cabinessence, Shut Down, Male Ego, The Record Room, The Vibe Room, The Smile Shop, The Sunshine Pop board (or whatever the title)...I was only a regular poster and registered member of The Smile Shop, and the reasons why that folded didn't involve me at all but you could always ask those it did involve.

So what were the reasons why the others collapsed...could it be some of the same people causing the same issues from board to board that led to whatever arguments and issues and all else? The same people getting warnings, bans, and even getting the boot from those forums who also came here? This board is still standing. Even the recent Hoffman board exodus (another board I'm not registered and do not post) was eventually crushed when the mods there must have gotten fed up with it and ended up deleting all of the discussions that heavily featured members who were banned from this board and who have axes to grind. I guess I was to blame for that too?

The Cab board/Shut Down? Personally speaking, I came here after AGD and others with knowledge decamped and because I got pissed off by a couple of posters who bullied others - which is kinda ironic when you realise who one of them was. The other boards? I don't know, except for The Record Room, which I only visited occasionally and didn't care for its ego-simonizing. I don't think people left there because of the posters you're being careful not to reference. Still think your own personal board would improve things. Posters can blame you for not doing enough about those who ruin thread after thread by whining about Mike or to blame you and your cheering section for the perception that they're not allowed to criticise Brian (even though they're all fans) and you can write and they can read and re-read your justifications until everyone's heart is content.  

Stuff doesn't belong in a thread about Brian's 2016 tour, however.


Posters can blame me but am I the only moderator and do I make decisions on my own to do or not do something, then act alone when doing it? Despite some who believe otherwise, the answer is a firm "no". Yet I get singled out. If there is a need for my own board or thread or whatever else (and there very well could be a sub forum or thread here in the sandbox or wherever if that's what posters want), at least have it be factually based on how this board is actually moderated and not based on false claims or assumptions.

Was it not enough when in the past 6 months myself, Billy, Klaas, and most recently Charles have in various threads all posted public statements and refuted all the charges about rogue moderators, moderators who bully others, and whatever other bogus statements were being made about the moderation of this board? I guess I'm the only one who is expected to do something even though it's a team effort and decisions are made by consensus.

I wasn't assuming anything, just getting tired of the same old dickery. Besides, someone's made it happen


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 23, 2016, 03:57:49 AM
Awesome. Have to ask - Did they do Please Let Me Wonder?

Yep, it was a great performance! The setlist is already up, 40 songs in total:

Quote
Set 1:

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Please Let Me Wonder
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World
Add Some Music to Your Day
Cotton Fields
Do It Again
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail On, Sailor

Set 2: Pet Sounds

Wouldn't It Be Nice
You Still Believe in Me
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
I'm Waiting for the Day
Let's Go Away for Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There's an Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No

Encore:

Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me, Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' U.S.A.
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love and Mercy

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-palladium-london-england-33fea005.html

Thanks for sharing!  We got 40 songs in Osaka...  looks like you guys got the 2nd 40-song show of the tour! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heteronym on May 23, 2016, 04:22:41 AM
I'm off to the Manchester show tomorrow, if anyone is going as well hit me up!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 23, 2016, 05:42:35 AM


Some photos from yesterday's show:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153756028329685.1073741825.549439684&type=1&l=8a74ea134f (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10153756028329685.1073741825.549439684&type=1&l=8a74ea134f)


(hope it works)




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Hot Rod on May 23, 2016, 06:28:00 AM
I posted my thoughts in the UK Pet Sounds Review thread, but I copied it here as well.


I was at the show at The Palladium last Saturday and before you read the rest, I had an amazing night and it was great. BUT...

It was just sad to see him on stage like that. He didn't really hit the right notes, his voice was just ruff. And he totally didn't seem to be in the same room as the rest of the band. He never smiled or laughed or anything (at least from my seat). It was really depressing to see him there. And before the break he didn't even stay on stage until the last song was over.  It was kind of weird. If I was just a random fan, someone who only went to the show because it said Brian Wilson and Pet Sounds, I would never go to a Brian Wlson show again.

I always go to Brian shows because of his amazing band. If he didn't have them it would be even more awkward. Blondie on the other hand was out of control and rocking the house!

But you have to give him credit for having the courage to go on tour and perform albums like Smile and Pet Sounds. Mike would never do stuff like this.  So as long as Brian is touring I will always go, because I'm a fan of his music and his band, but not of his stage-appearance. And like every other Brian show, I still ha a blast because of the band.

A few questions that someone here might be able to answer:
1. Is he aware of his live voice?
2. Why does he still go on tour when he's clearly not enjoying being on stage?

So much from me,
Rόdiger


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: IainLee on May 23, 2016, 07:31:58 AM
My six year old son did ask an excellent question

'Why does Brian Wilson have a piano in front of him if he never plays it?'


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 23, 2016, 07:41:11 AM
My six year old son did ask an excellent question

'Why does Brian Wilson have a piano in front of him if he never plays it?'

The answer is: "Shut up and drink your juice, that's why"   ;D

But seriously, he does play it but very irregularly and it's not really included in the audience mix.
I've seen many of his gigs, including from side stage, and I've seen him play some songs all the way through and correctly (e.g. Surfer Girl, California Girls and other classics) and some songs just the chorus or just some chords here and there.   His piano is well audible from his stage monitor.
Yesterday night I was on front row and I could hear his piano coming from his monitor at times, and in couple of occasions he hit keys between songs and that was very audible.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 23, 2016, 07:49:15 AM
I'm not trying to be the old cranky internet dude, and I know it's not always easy for newer fans to go back and read 17-year-old fan discussions (or even find them), but some of these are "1999 questions" for lack of a better way to put it. And frankly, some of these issues go back to Brian's 1976 return to the touring band. The last time Brian gave a totally unaffected, not-weird-in-any-possible-way live performance on stage, was probably 1965. Even his brief 1970 Pacific Northwest stint got a few sketchy reviews.
 
I don't think some questions about Brian's stage demeanor are unwarranted. But really, who buys tickets to a Brian Wilson show not *already knowing* what his deal is? There are a million YouTube videos, numerous official video releases (Brian's stage presence is *never* not at least a little weird, even on the official DVD releases), and so on.

It's like going to a Bob Dylan gig and asking why his voice sounds weird, or asking why McCartney does his "now all the boys, now all the girls" bit during "Hey Jude", or why Mike Love points to his temples or "drives" the mic stand like it's a steering wheel (dunno if he still does that one), or why Bruce claps and points. It's just part of the gig.

Brian has never looked completely relaxed and slick on stage. Ever. I've seen him come surprisingly and pleasantly close on some occasions (when I saw him on the 2000 "Pet Sounds" tour, he didn't touch the piano and just sat on his chair and sang a bunch of the show with his eyes closed, like he was recording in the studio; he sounded good, was in a *great* mood, etc.).

But I can't imagine dropping major coin for a BW show and being surprised by his stage demeanor and performance. He sometimes lacks energy, he hits a sour note once in while, he biffs the lyrics once in awhile. Sometimes some of those things are more on point, sometimes not as much.

The leaving before the last song thing is something Brian has been doing for years. I always assumed, while stilted, he's doing the same thing George Harrison did at the "Concert for Bangla Desh." He's leaving for slight dramatic effect and letting the band play out. Many leaders of bands have done this over the years. Brian's not great on showmanship, so it does kind of have the comical effect of just abruptly leaving. But again, this is all par for the course for Brian.

Go watch TV shows and live shows going back to the 70s. Brian (and the BBs on the whole at varying times over the years) have had moments where casual fans probably asked "Wtf?"

The piano thing is mostly for comfort. Brian does play some, often not. Go watch his late night Dick Clark talk show performance from 1988. *That's* why Brian doesn't just grab a mic and stand and perform!

When Brian first started touring in 1999, I think he probably felt the same as he does now: He mainly wants to just sing at his shows. We know he *can* play piano, but he doesn't want to at live gigs too much. So for early 1999 gigs, someone (whether it was someone else or Brian himself) made the weird and misguided decision that led to him feeling like he needed to keep moving his hands on the keyboard even if he wasn't playing. That *was* fake, obviously so, and was misguided for numerous reasons including that it gave the incorrect impression Brian couldn't play. Thankfully, by later in that same year, and certainly by 2000, he just kept the piano on stage but didn't play it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: IainLee on May 23, 2016, 07:58:28 AM
Gosh. Sorry. I wasn't trying to start anything.

I KNOW why Brian doesn't play the piano much. I thought I was just sharing something cute my son said.

I explained that Brian had had a tough life and wasn't very well and having a piano made him feel safe.

This really is a very very odd place. And most unwelcoming.

I wasn't posting it as a question.

Apologies if that post wasn't up to the usual high standard you guys have come to expect on here.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on May 23, 2016, 08:21:56 AM
Another performer who leaves the stage before the song is finished is Ringo Starr..  who is way more comfortable in front of an audience than Brian.  On his last tour, at least, he'd leave 1-2 minutes before the last song ended while the band jammed to the conclusion.. and he didn't even come back to bow with everyone.  Brian's at least there after "Love & Mercy" holding hands with the other guys.

As for the question of who would go to a Brian show without knowing what to expect..  my parents.  I'm going in September and after seeing "Love & Mercy" they dropped SERIOUS coin.  I'm very anxious they are going to rain on my parade by being surprised how uncomfortable Brian is no matter how much I try to explain it to them in advance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 23, 2016, 08:26:19 AM
I'm not trying to be the old cranky internet dude, and I know it's not always easy for newer fans to go back and read 17-year-old fan discussions (or even find them), but some of these are "1999 questions" for lack of a better way to put it. And frankly, some of these issues go back to Brian's 1976 return to the touring band. The last time Brian gave a totally unaffected, not-weird-in-any-possible-way live performance on stage, was probably 1965. Even his brief 1970 Pacific Northwest stint got a few sketchy reviews.
 
I don't think some questions about Brian's stage demeanor are unwarranted. But really, who buys tickets to a Brian Wilson show not *already knowing* what his deal is? There are a million YouTube videos, numerous official video releases (Brian's stage presence is *never* not at least a little weird, even on the official DVD releases), and so on.

It's like going to a Bob Dylan gig and asking why his voice sounds weird, or asking why McCartney does his "now all the boys, now all the girls" bit during "Hey Jude", or why Mike Love points to his temples or "drives" the mic stand like it's a steering wheel (dunno if he still does that one), or why Bruce claps and points. It's just part of the gig.

Brian has never looked completely relaxed and slick on stage. Ever. I've seen him come surprisingly and pleasantly close on some occasions (when I saw him on the 2000 "Pet Sounds" tour, he didn't touch the piano and just sat on his chair and sang a bunch of the show with his eyes closed, like he was recording in the studio; he sounded good, was in a *great* mood, etc.).

But I can't imagine dropping major coin for a BW show and being surprised by his stage demeanor and performance. He sometimes lacks energy, he hits a sour note once in while, he biffs the lyrics once in awhile. Sometimes some of those things are more on point, sometimes not as much.

The leaving before the last song thing is something Brian has been doing for years. I always assumed, while stilted, he's doing the same thing George Harrison did at the "Concert for Bangla Desh." He's leaving for slight dramatic effect and letting the band play out. Many leaders of bands have done this over the years. Brian's not great on showmanship, so it does kind of have the comical effect of just abruptly leaving. But again, this is all par for the course for Brian.

Go watch TV shows and live shows going back to the 70s. Brian (and the BBs on the whole at varying times over the years) have had moments where casual fans probably asked "Wtf?"

The piano thing is mostly for comfort. Brian does play some, often not. Go watch his late night Dick Clark talk show performance from 1988. *That's* why Brian doesn't just grab a mic and stand and perform!

When Brian first started touring in 1999, I think he probably felt the same as he does now: He mainly wants to just sing at his shows. We know he *can* play piano, but he doesn't want to at live gigs too much. So for early 1999 gigs, someone (whether it was someone else or Brian himself) made the weird and misguided decision that led to him feeling like he needed to keep moving his hands on the keyboard even if he wasn't playing. That *was* fake, obviously so, and was misguided for numerous reasons including that it gave the incorrect impression Brian couldn't play. Thankfully, by later in that same year, and certainly by 2000, he just kept the piano on stage but didn't play it.
At intermissions, questions about Brian come up at every show that I attend. Not everyone that goes to shows are all familiar with Brian on stage. Also, I was watching the Cardiff show I believe, on YouTube yesterday, and it sure looked like Brian was playing on Sail On Sailor. The side shots showed both hands playing chords.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ang Jones on May 23, 2016, 08:32:55 AM
I posted my thoughts in the UK Pet Sounds Review thread, but I copied it here as well.


I was at the show at The Palladium last Saturday and before you read the rest, I had an amazing night and it was great. BUT...

It was just sad to see him on stage like that. He didn't really hit the right notes, his voice was just ruff. And he totally didn't seem to be in the same room as the rest of the band. He never smiled or laughed or anything (at least from my seat). It was really depressing to see him there. And before the break he didn't even stay on stage until the last song was over.  It was kind of weird. If I was just a random fan, someone who only went to the show because it said Brian Wilson and Pet Sounds, I would never go to a Brian Wlson show again.

I always go to Brian shows because of his amazing band. If he didn't have them it would be even more awkward. Blondie on the other hand was out of control and rocking the house!


But you have to give him credit for having the courage to go on tour and perform albums like Smile and Pet Sounds. Mike would never do stuff like this.  So as long as Brian is touring I will always go, because I'm a fan of his music and his band, but not of his stage-appearance. And like every other Brian show, I still ha a blast because of the band.

A few questions that someone here might be able to answer:
1. Is he aware of his live voice?
2. Why does he still go on tour when he's clearly not enjoying being on stage?

So much from me,
Rόdiger


The Saturday show was great - the one I frankly expected to be the best, with a very excited and enthusiastic audience. But IMO (and admittedly, I was very tired, having only got to bed at 3 am on Saturday morning so not in the best frame of mind to appreciate the Saturday show) the Sunday show was even better. Brian DID smile during this one. He was smiling during Blondie's brilliant Wild Honey rendition and he continued to smile. At one point he got up and waved to the audience, causing an immediate outpouring of love and making me realise how much more response he would have got with just a few more such actions. He is so loved by his fans.

As for Brian's awareness of his voice, there's this, from the Manchester Evening News: "'“On stage is kind of scary. The eyes are watching. I might sing good or not sing good,” says Brian about live performance - a part of the job he once famously avoided. “But I’ve got (former Beach Boys members) Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin on tour with me and they’re both great singers and help me out.” ' http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-pet-sounds-isnt-11321275


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Cliff1000uk on May 23, 2016, 08:49:56 AM
Just thought I'd post my two cents about Friday's show. I can't really add to what's been said about the performance-the band were 'on', especially Nicky and Blondie was loving it up there pulling poses with his tambourine. I can only compare to the Bristol show and the main difference was the audience-the London crowd seemed very aware how Brian would be on stage and was up for most of the first set. If the oldish posh woman next to me reads here (OSD?), I apologize for giving you a faceful of my bag whilst trying to sit down.

Now....afterwards, there was about 30 of us by the stage door. We were told by security that Brian had left the stage and gone straight into a taxi, which didn't put anyone off meeting the others. Al and Blondie came out together with security. Blondie looked at my copy of Rock n Roll and said, "Sh*t, man, I'd love to but I can't-sorry, man". He looked a bit lost as the taxis were further down the road so I said, "Gotcha" and he happily signed the LP and said he loved that album. Al signed a few items too before heading to the cars. The band then came out and told us Brian had gone. There was no after show so they left straight away. It seems on the Saturday night, they signed items and had photos taken, which is cool

It was also really good meeting up with others before the gig and I bumped into the tour photographer, who had been given the task of having the first three songs to get a photo of Brian smiling!

Anyways, without rambling, it was an incredible day topped off by a fantastic performance. Yeah, Brian's voice may be a bit croaky at times but Matt and Al sure do make up for that.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 23, 2016, 09:12:36 AM
At intermissions, questions about Brian come up at every show that I attend. Not everyone that goes to shows are all familiar with Brian on stage. Also, I was watching the Cardiff show I believe, on YouTube yesterday, and it sure looked like Brian was playing on Sail On Sailor. The side shots showed both hands playing chords.

Surely any show has a scattered selection of much more casual fans, or people who were just dragged to the show by someone else.

I just can't imagine going out of one's way to pay a good price for a "Brian Wilson" show while not knowing the bare minimum about him and being surprised by his stage demeanor. You don't even have to be a hardcore fan to know Brian's deal. One would have to have not seen *any* live footage of him from the past several decades to be surprised by his stage presence.

Certainly, even the biggest hardcore fans might see something extra out of the ordinary and discuss it. But I've seen too many of these incredulous comments over the last few years, presumably from newer fans I guess.

I can actually understand more potential confusion, and/or lack of super familiarity, among casual fans buying "Beach Boys" tickets. But who seeks out a Brian Wilson "Pet Sounds" ticket at an intimate theater, usually for a pretty hefty price, and doesn't know how Brian acts on stage? The answer is apparently that there are some folks in this category. That's cool, and I hope despite their misgivings that they do enjoy the show as people have reported here. But I'm not going to sympathize with them too much, and I may occasionally see an incredulous, apparently less-informed and less contextualized review that I might take issue with.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 23, 2016, 09:26:38 AM
At intermissions, questions about Brian come up at every show that I attend. Not everyone that goes to shows are all familiar with Brian on stage. Also, I was watching the Cardiff show I believe, on YouTube yesterday, and it sure looked like Brian was playing on Sail On Sailor. The side shots showed both hands playing chords.

Surely any show has a scattered selection of much more casual fans, or people who were just dragged to the show by someone else.

I just can't imagine going out of one's way to pay a good price for a "Brian Wilson" show while not knowing the bare minimum about him and being surprised by his stage demeanor. You don't even have to be a hardcore fan to know Brian's deal. One would have to have not seen *any* live footage of him from the past several decades to be surprised by his stage presence.

Certainly, even the biggest hardcore fans might see something extra out of the ordinary and discuss it. But I've seen too many of these incredulous comments over the last few years, presumably from newer fans I guess.

I can actually understand more potential confusion, and/or lack of super familiarity, among casual fans buying "Beach Boys" tickets. But who seeks out a Brian Wilson "Pet Sounds" ticket at an intimate theater, usually for a pretty hefty price, and doesn't know how Brian acts on stage? The answer is apparently that there are some folks in this category. That's cool, and I hope despite their misgivings that they do enjoy the show as people have reported here. But I'm not going to sympathize with them too much, and I may occasionally see an incredulous, apparently less-informed and less contextualized review that I might take issue with.
Geez, no one is asking you to sympathize with anyone. All I am saying that there are people who go to shows that are somewhat surprised by Brian's stage presence. He is not your typical headliner, is all. I think most folks know he is a Beach Boy and are familiar with the music, just not always with his persona on stage.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 23, 2016, 10:13:09 AM
Geez, no one is asking you to sympathize with anyone. All I am saying that there are people who go to shows that are somewhat surprised by Brian's stage presence. He is not your typical headliner, is all. I think most folks know he is a Beach Boy and are familiar with the music, just not always with his persona on stage.

Not to tread the same old internet tropes, but I didn't say anyone was asking me to sympathize with anyone. Discussion boards are not places to plop down observations and then end it at that. I'm just pontificating on other observations. I don't ask people to respond to what I write, and my responses are not elicited by people asking me to opine. It's the natural back and forth, that's all.

Anyone that sees Brian and says "WTF is wrong with him?" (or, to be less hyperbolic, express incredulity about his stage demeanor) can feel free to express that, here or elsewhere. Some folks clearly are surprised by his stage presence. I'm surprised by their surprise.

Brian's shows attract far less "casual" fans than "Beach Boys" shows. I don't sense a ton of people just looking to hear some Beach Boys hits are apt to look up Brian's shows, and certainly a fan who is tuned in enough to have enough of an affinity for "Pet Sounds" to want to hear it in full in concert would, I would think, know enough about Brian to have some level of a familiarity with history and his stage presence.

In other words, if people (fans or reviewers) want to go into a Brian show and discuss it without any context (e.g. his history), I'm going to weigh that accordingly. (And yes, I'm aware nobody is asking anyone to weigh in on a given review or impression of a show. Again, it's a discussion board so that's what's going to happen regardless.)

I do think Brian fans can be too forgiving sometimes, and an outsider viewpoint actually IS important. But those types usually tend to be acquaintances of fans who catch some Brian footage in passing, or see him on TV or something. I'm just a bit surprised that someone could seek out Brian's show, buy tickets, and be unfamiliar with him to the point of being surprised by his stage demeanor. It's good information for me to have; if more "casual" fans are showing up (and masses of sellouts suggest more people *are* seeking this tour out), that's good to know, and not a bad thing. Hopefully, Brian and his PR folks also are aware that they are going to get more scrutiny on this tour, sometimes from folks not well versed in his history and thus unable to see the show in what some would argue is a better, more accurate context.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 23, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
Blondie gets around the place a bit, doesn't he?  Always moving, always dragging one's eyes towards him.  It's a touch showy for a Brian Wilson gig, but then he's a bit more 'rock' and that's okay, because he's Blondie Chaplin and I appreciate getting this slant in a BW gig.  But I have a question, was Blondie this showy back with the Boys in the early 70s or more a muted stage presence?  I see a little bit of old footage and he seems to be just singing and playing in an ordinary, fashion, doing what the music requires.  Has hanging around with that Mick Jagger person rubbed off on him?

Brian did that 'walking back out on-stage when Al's getting his cheers' both nights I went.  Does he just do that for fun or is he winding Al up?  On Saturday, he totally cut Al off in mid-speech and talked over him in introducing Girl Don't Tell Me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: drbeachboy on May 23, 2016, 11:35:24 AM
Blondie gets around the place a bit, doesn't he?  Always moving, always dragging one's eyes towards him.  It's a touch showy for a Brian Wilson gig, but then he's a bit more 'rock' and that's okay, because he's Blondie Chaplin and I appreciate getting this slant in a BW gig.  But I have a question, was Blondie this showy back with the Boys in the early 70s or more a muted stage presence?  I see a little bit of old footage and he seems to be just singing and playing in an ordinary, fashion, doing what the music requires.  Has hanging around with that Mick Jagger person rubbed off on him?

Brian did that 'walking back out on-stage when Al's getting his cheers' both nights I went.  Does he just do that for fun or is he winding Al up?  On Saturday, he totally cut Al off in mid-speech and talked over him in introducing Girl Don't Tell Me.
I saw Blondie 3 times with the Beach Boys and no, he never danced around the stage like he has on the Brian tours. He pretty much stayed near his mic all show. Hell, back then even Mike was low key on stage.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on May 23, 2016, 11:41:08 AM
I don't remember Blondie being so animated in the early '70s BBs. He seemed mellower then. I think he really honed his rock'n'roll (but I like it ;D) swagger during his stint with the Stones. I think he adds a lively element to Brian's shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kwan_dk on May 23, 2016, 12:52:22 PM
I'm not trying to be the old cranky internet dude, and I know it's not always easy for newer fans to go back and read 17-year-old fan discussions (or even find them), but some of these are "1999 questions" for lack of a better way to put it. And frankly, some of these issues go back to Brian's 1976 return to the touring band. The last time Brian gave a totally unaffected, not-weird-in-any-possible-way live performance on stage, was probably 1965. Even his brief 1970 Pacific Northwest stint got a few sketchy reviews.
 
I don't think some questions about Brian's stage demeanor are unwarranted. But really, who buys tickets to a Brian Wilson show not *already knowing* what his deal is? There are a million YouTube videos, numerous official video releases (Brian's stage presence is *never* not at least a little weird, even on the official DVD releases), and so on.

It's like going to a Bob Dylan gig and asking why his voice sounds weird, or asking why McCartney does his "now all the boys, now all the girls" bit during "Hey Jude", or why Mike Love points to his temples or "drives" the mic stand like it's a steering wheel (dunno if he still does that one), or why Bruce claps and points. It's just part of the gig.

Brian has never looked completely relaxed and slick on stage. Ever. I've seen him come surprisingly and pleasantly close on some occasions (when I saw him on the 2000 "Pet Sounds" tour, he didn't touch the piano and just sat on his chair and sang a bunch of the show with his eyes closed, like he was recording in the studio; he sounded good, was in a *great* mood, etc.).

But I can't imagine dropping major coin for a BW show and being surprised by his stage demeanor and performance. He sometimes lacks energy, he hits a sour note once in while, he biffs the lyrics once in awhile. Sometimes some of those things are more on point, sometimes not as much.

The leaving before the last song thing is something Brian has been doing for years. I always assumed, while stilted, he's doing the same thing George Harrison did at the "Concert for Bangla Desh." He's leaving for slight dramatic effect and letting the band play out. Many leaders of bands have done this over the years. Brian's not great on showmanship, so it does kind of have the comical effect of just abruptly leaving. But again, this is all par for the course for Brian.

Go watch TV shows and live shows going back to the 70s. Brian (and the BBs on the whole at varying times over the years) have had moments where casual fans probably asked "Wtf?"

The piano thing is mostly for comfort. Brian does play some, often not. Go watch his late night Dick Clark talk show performance from 1988. *That's* why Brian doesn't just grab a mic and stand and perform!

When Brian first started touring in 1999, I think he probably felt the same as he does now: He mainly wants to just sing at his shows. We know he *can* play piano, but he doesn't want to at live gigs too much. So for early 1999 gigs, someone (whether it was someone else or Brian himself) made the weird and misguided decision that led to him feeling like he needed to keep moving his hands on the keyboard even if he wasn't playing. That *was* fake, obviously so, and was misguided for numerous reasons including that it gave the incorrect impression Brian couldn't play. Thankfully, by later in that same year, and certainly by 2000, he just kept the piano on stage but didn't play it.

Some good points there. Well put.

My two cents in regards to Brian's performance,...

I was at the Saturday show in London and although I enjoyed it I must say Brian's vocals threw me off a bit. Prior to going to the show, I'd read some nice reviews by other fans. As someone who's seen Brian a few times before, starting with the second Smile premiere show in London in 2004, I've heard my fair share of shaky BW live vocals, but to my ears his performance Saturday was the worst I've heard. Not for a lack of effort as such, I'm sure he did his best, but he just seemed to sing more off-key than usual as well as run out of air much quicker than before. That's just my experience of course, others obviously enjoyed it immensily which is great.

During 'Caroline No' he left the stage in a hurry before ther song ended... Has it been so during the other shows? I don't think I've seen him do this in any of the shows I've seen. Maybe I've just been lucky. It did seem a bit odd in a sort of 'get me out of here NOW' way but you could just as well regard it as a bit of BW quirkiness, I guess. ;-)

The band was, as usual, stellar with Matt Jardine doing a surperb job - 'Don't Worry Baby' and 'Wouldn't It be Nice' were the highlights for me. And the Palladium was a beautiful setting...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mentalist on May 23, 2016, 12:59:04 PM
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What?

Keep in mind who defended you when the majority of posters commenting to your own thread about hating Mike Love were accusing you of trolling, of deliberately stirring up the sh*t to cause problems, and demanding that the thread be locked/deleted. And I honestly don't remember, but there may have even been calls to ban the thread's author, one Iain Lee. I remember it well because knowing who you were and knowing your previous interviews and general fan enthusiasm for music like The Monkees (which I share), you were getting a raw deal and I was one who tried to show support. And you were not banned, the thread was not deleted despite calls to do so, and lo and behold the truth of who you really were did come out. Did anyone apologize for getting it wrong, or for suggesting things based on false or untrue information about you or your motives?

If not, join the club.  :)  

I also hope my positive comments directed your way, as written to another board member who you know, reached you as well, because I basically said I hoped all was well with you especially with what you had been dealing with earlier this year, and hoped you would reconsider coming back to have a dialogue about your article, despite those accusing you of trolling and worse and the reactions it generated, some of which were very out of line.

So I'm hoping in light of the reality of my own support of what you went through being called a troll and worse and blamed for things you were not doing, you're not trying to pin the hypothetical death of this board on me personally, because that would be a real kick in the ass on many levels. And I was, honestly, 100% sincere in what I said and hoped would reach your eyes or ears as well.

Ok

No. It wasn't a dig at you. At all. But. This whole thread is an embarrassment to Beach Boys fandom. I came here to see what people thought of last nights Palladium show. Instead I have To wade through pages of off topic rants from various people. I could not care less about who is banned or why. I want to know if people dug Funky Pretty as much as me. That's it.

I never hid who I was on this message board. That's why I always use my real name on message boards. Always.

No. I never got your message. At least I don't think I did. Thank you though. It is appreciated.

And I'm fine. I can take a few people calling me a troll or whatever. I know I'm not. My question was a genuine one to try and unpick people's attitudes to Mike, a lyricist, performer and singer I happen to have a lot of respect for. I think Mike love is brilliant. I love Kokomo. Could not care less if that upsets people.

Seriously, you all need to chill. I agree with Enily, none of this should be in this thread. Or maybe it should. Really, I don't care. I just think a lot of people are looking silly. And it's stuff like this that scares ME away from contributing. I can't speak for others.  Only myself.

Anyway, now I've contributed more to this off topic theme. I apologise. So. Let's see if I can bring it back.

Last night was a joy. Loved seeing Brian at the Palladium. As I said, his voice was perhaps croakier than I've seen in the past, but he seemed to be into it. He made a few jokes and chatted to the audience. Al seemed to get a little upset that the autocue wasn't working for him on This Whole World but part of me dod think 'this song is over 40 years old, learn the words Al'

Still, his voice is incredible. He's lost a tiny bit of his higher register but he really has still got a great voice. Rhonda just rocked it. My son fell asleep during Pet Sounds (he's 6) so for the encore I was carrying a sleeping child while doing my best to dance.

And again, I feel blessed to have seen Blondie singing Sail On Sailor and a few more. The Flame period of BBhistorh is I think my favourite, not necessarily in terms of musical output but just because it seems like such a nuts time.

Darian was missed. I thought the band lacked a little oomph. But. That may just be me.

As always at a BB or BW gig, a great atmosphere before and during and I ended up chatting to a lot of people from around the world.

I was sat next to a French guy who was surprised at how little security there was.  He's used to seeing shows in Paris after those awful attacks where apparently everyone going into a venue now is patted down

A great night and my son made me spend a fortune on merch. Ooh. They were selling the "Help Me Rhond" t shirt that Brian wore in the 70's. Very cool piece of niche merch

Anyone else there? Would love to hear your thoughts.

Peace to everyone. I'm gonna keep quiet on everything else. Don't want to get trolled or booted off.


Pretty much spot on in my opinion. I'd never seen Blondie before... so that was great and Al's voice really pleased me. I suppose I am so used to the classic BW band that I did miss DS and JF but there was plenty of oomph and Brian was certainly engaged. I talked to quite a few fans afterwards, nearly all of whom liked different things to me but then that's the joy of the BBs - we all get our own thing out of them. We all, without exception, seemed to be uplifted by the night.

Oh, and I am not the biggest fan of Mike Love by many a long stretch but I wandered into a pub in Camden last week and just about the entire bar, staff included, were singing and dancing to Kokomo, so I of course joined in. I hope nobody will hate me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 23, 2016, 02:25:01 PM
I saw Blondie 3 times with the Beach Boys and no, he never danced around the stage like he has on the Brian tours. He pretty much stayed near his mic all show. Hell, back then even Mike was low key on stage.

I don't remember Blondie being so animated in the early '70s BBs. He seemed mellower then. I think he really honed his rock'n'roll (but I like it ;D) swagger during his stint with the Stones. I think he adds a lively element to Brian's shows.

Ah, I see.  Well. that's kind of interesting in itself.  I see he occasionally gets some off comments online for his moves, but it didn't bother me.  Hearing him sing those songs is a gift for those that missed it first time round.  The real deal, as Von Mertens says.  And it's great that Brian is presenting something a little different, another piece of the history in these shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Douchepool on May 23, 2016, 02:29:15 PM
Oh, and I am not the biggest fan of Mike Love by many a long stretch but I wandered into a pub in Camden last week and just about the entire bar, staff included, were singing and dancing to Kokomo, so I of course joined in. I hope nobody will hate me.

Why would people hate you for that?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 23, 2016, 02:57:06 PM


Pretty much spot on in my opinion. I'd never seen Blondie before... so that was great and Al's voice really pleased me. I suppose I am so used to the classic BW band that I did miss DS and JF but there was plenty of oomph and Brian was certainly engaged. I talked to quite a few fans afterwards, nearly all of whom liked different things to me but then that's the joy of the BBs - we all get our own thing out of them. We all, without exception, seemed to be uplifted by the night.

Oh, and I am not the biggest fan of Mike Love by many a long stretch but I wandered into a pub in Camden last week and just about the entire bar, staff included, were singing and dancing to Kokomo, so I of course joined in. I hope nobody will hate me.

Now if you'd danced like Kate Bush and sent the beers flying, that might be something to get annoyed about.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mentalist on May 23, 2016, 03:19:37 PM


Pretty much spot on in my opinion. I'd never seen Blondie before... so that was great and Al's voice really pleased me. I suppose I am so used to the classic BW band that I did miss DS and JF but there was plenty of oomph and Brian was certainly engaged. I talked to quite a few fans afterwards, nearly all of whom liked different things to me but then that's the joy of the BBs - we all get our own thing out of them. We all, without exception, seemed to be uplifted by the night.

Oh, and I am not the biggest fan of Mike Love by many a long stretch but I wandered into a pub in Camden last week and just about the entire bar, staff included, were singing and dancing to Kokomo, so I of course joined in. I hope nobody will hate me.

Now if you'd danced like Kate Bush and sent the beers flying, that might be something to get annoyed about.

I danced like John Stamos and not a precious drop was wasted.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 23, 2016, 10:26:36 PM
I'm not trying to be the old cranky internet dude, and I know it's not always easy for newer fans to go back and read 17-year-old fan discussions (or even find them), but some of these are "1999 questions" for lack of a better way to put it. And frankly, some of these issues go back to Brian's 1976 return to the touring band. The last time Brian gave a totally unaffected, not-weird-in-any-possible-way live performance on stage, was probably 1965. Even his brief 1970 Pacific Northwest stint got a few sketchy reviews.
 
I don't think some questions about Brian's stage demeanor are unwarranted. But really, who buys tickets to a Brian Wilson show not *already knowing* what his deal is? There are a million YouTube videos, numerous official video releases (Brian's stage presence is *never* not at least a little weird, even on the official DVD releases), and so on.

It's like going to a Bob Dylan gig and asking why his voice sounds weird, or asking why McCartney does his "now all the boys, now all the girls" bit during "Hey Jude", or why Mike Love points to his temples or "drives" the mic stand like it's a steering wheel (dunno if he still does that one), or why Bruce claps and points. It's just part of the gig.

Brian has never looked completely relaxed and slick on stage. Ever. I've seen him come surprisingly and pleasantly close on some occasions (when I saw him on the 2000 "Pet Sounds" tour, he didn't touch the piano and just sat on his chair and sang a bunch of the show with his eyes closed, like he was recording in the studio; he sounded good, was in a *great* mood, etc.).

But I can't imagine dropping major coin for a BW show and being surprised by his stage demeanor and performance. He sometimes lacks energy, he hits a sour note once in while, he biffs the lyrics once in awhile. Sometimes some of those things are more on point, sometimes not as much.

The leaving before the last song thing is something Brian has been doing for years. I always assumed, while stilted, he's doing the same thing George Harrison did at the "Concert for Bangla Desh." He's leaving for slight dramatic effect and letting the band play out. Many leaders of bands have done this over the years. Brian's not great on showmanship, so it does kind of have the comical effect of just abruptly leaving. But again, this is all par for the course for Brian.

Go watch TV shows and live shows going back to the 70s. Brian (and the BBs on the whole at varying times over the years) have had moments where casual fans probably asked "Wtf?"

The piano thing is mostly for comfort. Brian does play some, often not. Go watch his late night Dick Clark talk show performance from 1988. *That's* why Brian doesn't just grab a mic and stand and perform!

When Brian first started touring in 1999, I think he probably felt the same as he does now: He mainly wants to just sing at his shows. We know he *can* play piano, but he doesn't want to at live gigs too much. So for early 1999 gigs, someone (whether it was someone else or Brian himself) made the weird and misguided decision that led to him feeling like he needed to keep moving his hands on the keyboard even if he wasn't playing. That *was* fake, obviously so, and was misguided for numerous reasons including that it gave the incorrect impression Brian couldn't play. Thankfully, by later in that same year, and certainly by 2000, he just kept the piano on stage but didn't play it.

Some good points there. Well put.

My two cents in regards to Brian's performance,...

I was at the Saturday show in London and although I enjoyed it I must say Brian's vocals threw me off a bit. Prior to going to the show, I'd read some nice reviews by other fans. As someone who's seen Brian a few times before, starting with the second Smile premiere show in London in 2004, I've heard my fair share of shaky BW live vocals, but to my ears his performance Saturday was the worst I've heard. Not for a lack of effort as such, I'm sure he did his best, but he just seemed to sing more off-key than usual as well as run out of air much quicker than before. That's just my experience of course, others obviously enjoyed it immensily which is great.

During 'Caroline No' he left the stage in a hurry before ther song ended... Has it been so during the other shows? I don't think I've seen him do this in any of the shows I've seen. Maybe I've just been lucky. It did seem a bit odd in a sort of 'get me out of here NOW' way but you could just as well regard it as a bit of BW quirkiness, I guess. ;-)


He did the exact same thing in Osaka...  when he was done singing, he just walked off stage.  I remember thinking it was a bit odd, but perhaps it's something he's been doing in multiple shows. 

The odd thing for me about Brian's vocals is that they seemed unexpectedly strong in the first set and encore set (I was especially surprised by how well he sang 'One Kind of Love'), but he struggled with a fair bit of the Pet Sounds material, especially the stuff from the first side, though God Only Knows and Caroline No were pretty well-sung...  he really seemed to concentrate and got those ones right. I was kind of surprised...  it was a long first set, so I thought maybe he had strained his vocals in the first set and was struggling for Pet Sounds, but then in the encore, he sounded fine.  Maybe the PS stuff is just hard to sing (and maybe that's why this will be the last PS tour). 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 23, 2016, 10:33:18 PM

He did the exact same thing in Osaka...  when he was done singing, he just walked off stage.  I remember thinking it was a bit odd, but perhaps it's something he's been doing in multiple shows. 

The odd thing for me about Brian's vocals is that they seemed unexpectedly strong in the first set and encore set (I was especially surprised by how well he sang 'One Kind of Love'), but he struggled with a fair bit of the Pet Sounds material, especially the stuff from the first side, though God Only Knows and Caroline No were pretty well-sung...  he really seemed to concentrate and got those ones right. I was kind of surprised...  it was a long first set, so I thought maybe he had strained his vocals in the first set and was struggling for Pet Sounds, but then in the encore, he sounded fine.  Maybe the PS stuff is just hard to sing (and maybe that's why this will be the last PS tour). 
Every detail here was exactly the same in Dallas.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on May 24, 2016, 01:13:47 AM
The leaving before the last song thing is something Brian has been doing for years. I always assumed, while stilted, he's doing the same thing George Harrison did at the "Concert for Bangla Desh." He's leaving for slight dramatic effect and letting the band play out. Many leaders of bands have done this over the years.

The leaving before the band finishes, Brian's done sometimes for years.  The hurrying back out on stage again before they even finish introducing him, seems to be new at some shows this time around.  It's the combination of the two, plus the awkwardness of his movement as he goes (I really hope his back's not playing up again) which makes it look less like Ringo Starr following up doing jumping-jacks during his finale by breezing offstage, and more like a guy who just wants to get through the rest of the show as quick as he can.

This doesn't mean Brian should retire from the road.  None of us should quit our jobs just because we have a few off days either.  But I don't think any of us should really deny, Brian does have off days sometimes.

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 24, 2016, 02:16:35 AM
TODAY IS THE DAY!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 My meet and greet with the big man and chance to watch him live for the first time. Excited is not the word! Watching the clock tick, tick, tick so bloody slowly!

 So anyone else on here doing the meet n greet? I don't think I'll be leaving the venue before the gig to join others in the pub but more than happy for general chat pre and break in the venue. I'll be the excited looking one in a 'Love You' T-shirt :-D



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 24, 2016, 03:03:44 AM
I will be uploading videos from the London shows, most of them from the front row.  I will update this post as videos are up.
Apologies in advance for the shaking but hard to stand still when Blondie is rocking the house..  :)


Wake the World: https://youtu.be/Fvq1xFp747c (https://youtu.be/Fvq1xFp747c)
Cottonfields: https://youtu.be/dT2kmY3x_Zk (https://youtu.be/dT2kmY3x_Zk)
Funky Pretty: https://youtu.be/AaY0kMMGAog (https://youtu.be/AaY0kMMGAog)
Wild Honey: https://youtu.be/L1PST4ek-eU (https://youtu.be/L1PST4ek-eU)
Sail On, Sailor: https://youtu.be/tZqhlo2nAy4 (https://youtu.be/tZqhlo2nAy4)


My personal comments on the London shows:

- the highlight for me was definitely Blondie. He's like a separate gig inside the gig, a complete different show and energy.  Can't believe I got to see Blondie singing Sail On Sailor and the other two songs.  During the intermission I heard people saying that they didn't know who this guy was but it blew their minds
- a second highlight is of course Al Jardine. I loved every single second of his singing and actually most of it was in-mike.  I feel the teleprompter makes him feel more secure now
- much has been said about Brian.  It was not the greatest performance of his I have ever seen but I nevertheless feel blessed to have been in the same room with him one more time
- Gary and Billy did a great job, continuously switching instruments and sounds.  The vocal blend is a bit different than with Darian and Scott as well as their keys/vibes playing. Not worse, just different.
- "One Kind of Love" was probably the weakest song each night.  It felt rushed (especially on Saturday) and Brian doesn't seem very confident singing it yet.   The drums in the chorus could be played differently, in my opinion. Also it has an odd position in the setlist, right between "Do It Again" and "Wild Honey"
- I surprisingly actually enjoyed the car songs but I think that's because they were sung by Al
- It was cool to hear the band playing "Black Night" by Deep Purple!
- The Pet Sounds set felt less polished that I was used to, e.g. compared to 2002 or 2006.  Also, it often kinda felt like "Matt Jardine presents Pet Sounds"
- The mix was not perfect. On Saturday Nicky's guitar was way too loud all the way through, as well as the keyboards as the beginning of some songs
- The background vocals seemed less up front than other shows I've seen.  The leads were clear and loud but the background vocals were somehow not prominent enough
- The coda of "Funky Pretty" could have especially used louder and longer background vocals
- The lights also had some issues, e.g. not illuminating the right singer/player at the right moment






Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RiC on May 24, 2016, 04:33:10 AM
My comments on fridays and sundays London shows and VIP Meet and greet.

The meet and greet experience was worth it, even though the one I did with Mike Love's band a year ago in Royal Albert Hall was much more better experience. You actually got to talk with the guys. In this one you only get to be in the same picture. They guide you behind Brian, Al and Blondie who are the same time signing your 2 objects (which you even can't hand to them personally, assistant does that). The guys didn't seem too interested in making any contact to the fans, as I walked in front of them after the picture to take my signed LPs' and thank them, they were just talking to each other and looking other direction. Actually Brian was the only one I had even a small eyecontact, but I have to admit that I went totally blank and don't know if I would've been even able to say anything if I would've been given a chance. Anyway, I wasn't expecting more so that was fine by me. I'm very thankful I got two of my favorite Beach Boys albums (Holland and Carl and the Passions) signed by three of my favorite living members.

The soundcheck was pretty short. Brian quit it early to get over with the meet and greet which was right after the soundcheck. It was still nice though. Brian played and sang a tiny bit of some song which I didn't recognize. The concert itself was fantastic. The band was amazing, I'm not going to go to details because pretty much everything is said already. Blondie is amazing. He nailed Wild Honey and did an amazing performance on Funky Pretty. Highlight of the show!

But I have to say that in my opinion Al was in shadow for both of these shows I attended. He didn't have that much songs to sing leads on, if the early car songs are excluded. He was great as always, but I'd hope he would be given more space and a couple more leads. And those early car songs (Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe, etc.) should be thrown away. They were mood killers in the otherwise amazing first set.

Brian wasn't having his best day. I saw him in the 2012 Wembley show and man that night he was like a whole different person. He had a huge smile during the whole show, singing as great as ever, doing even the high parts on many songs and being very engaged overall. In this show he was a lot like the opposite of that. Though he did sing most of the time great, he just didn't seem very interested in the show or the audience. For me the best sounding song was propably Dont Talk. He and Matt sounded just heavenly together.

Sunday's show was pretty much the same, but they added Cottonfields and Please Let Me Wonder. Brian was a bit more comfortable and even smiled at one time (during Blondie's set). He sang better than in the friday's show and the show was overall a little bit better than the friday's. Brian struggled with couple words in some songs, but nothing serious or bad.

The audience gave huge applauds after every song. God Only Knows was of course the one that just blew everyone's mind (in the good way), even though Brian's vocals weren't the best. But anyway, I think Brian did an excellent job overall. He seems calm and relaxed on stage, even though he at some points looks like he just wants to get out of there. It must be hard and exhausting to tour in his age. If I have another chance to see him on this tour, promoted as his last European tour, I will go see him, no doubt. But I don't know if I can afford that. We'll see!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heteronym on May 24, 2016, 04:59:47 AM
TODAY IS THE DAY!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 My meet and greet with the big man and chance to watch him live for the first time. Excited is not the word! Watching the clock tick, tick, tick so bloody slowly!

 So anyone else on here doing the meet n greet? I don't think I'll be leaving the venue before the gig to join others in the pub but more than happy for general chat pre and break in the venue. I'll be the excited looking one in a 'Love You' T-shirt :-D


I take it you are referring to the Manchester gig? I'll be there, but not for the m&g. What pub is everyone meeting?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 24, 2016, 06:12:18 AM
I have to say, while I'd glady toss "Shut Down" out of the setlist to get "Santa Ana Winds" or "Goin' On" or even "California Dreamin'" or something, I don't think a few car songs is that big of a deal. They're still good songs, and Al actually sings them with some zeal (as does Brian sometimes too; when I saw opening night on the 2015 tour, Brian sang "Shut Down" and literally sang *over* Al on "Little Deuce Coupe"). I've never felt they hinder the setlist or the flow of the show. My only lament has ever been thinking of what they could be playing *instead*.

Promoters still probably expect Brian to do some early hits. The PS set and encore are set in stone pretty much ("All Summer Long" is about the only thing in the encore that has floated in and out), so that leaves a typically 18-19 song setlist to work both "hits" and "deep cuts" in. Factor out Blondie's three tracks, and several essentially "must-play" hits ("California Girls", "Surfer Girl", etc.), and there's very little room to work with.

I'd probably be willing to dump "Dance Dance Dance" first.

It will be interesting to see if "Honkin' Down the Highway" makes it back into the setlist at some point.

I was wondering if they would try to have Al do "Lady Lynda" since it was a UK hit. I know he de-Lynda'ed it on an early 90s UK tour, and normally I would think there would be any chance. But I recall that someone claimed Al had it in his setlist some years back when he was going to do that Pop Overthrow Festival gig, so I don't think he's outright opposed to doing that one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on May 24, 2016, 06:28:57 AM
The meet and greet experience was worth it, even though the one I did with Mike Love's band a year ago in Royal Albert Hall was much more better experience. You actually got to talk with the guys. In this one you only get to be in the same picture. They guide you behind Brian, Al and Blondie who are the same time signing your 2 objects (which you even can't hand to them personally, assistant does that). The guys didn't seem too interested in making any contact to the fans, as I walked in front of them after the picture to take my signed LPs' and thank them, they were just talking to each other and looking other direction. Actually Brian was the only one I had even a small eyecontact, but I have to admit that I went totally blank and don't know if I would've been even able to say anything if I would've been given a chance. Anyway, I wasn't expecting more so that was fine by me. I'm very thankful I got two of my favorite Beach Boys albums (Holland and Carl and the Passions) signed by three of my favorite living members.
Completely agree about the two different meet and greet experiences. I actually had some interaction with Mike and Bruce, while I was barely given a chance to say thanks to Brian and Al. In my opinion this had more to do with the various assistants on the tours than the performers themselves. Brian's meet and greets are done in a much more assembly line fashion: give the assistants your camera and your items to be signed, get behind the guys, grin and get out. With Mike and Bruce, it was broken up in two parts with a brief signing and chat, then get your photo taken. At the end of the day, I'm just thankful for both experiences and looking forward to my meet and greet with Brian, Al and Blondie in Detroit later this year.

I have to say, while I'd glady toss "Shut Down" out of the setlist to get "Santa Ana Winds" or "Goin' On" or even "California Dreamin'" or something, I don't think a few car songs is that big of a deal. They're still good songs, and Al actually sings them with some zeal (as does Brian sometimes too; when I saw opening night on the 2015 tour, Brian sang "Shut Down" and literally sang *over* Al on "Little Deuce Coupe"). I've never felt they hinder the setlist or the flow of the show. My only lament has ever been thinking of what they could be playing *instead*.

Promoters still probably expect Brian to do some early hits. The PS set and encore are set in stone pretty much ("All Summer Long" is about the only thing in the encore that has floated in and out), so that leaves a typically 18-19 song setlist to work both "hits" and "deep cuts" in. Factor out Blondie's three tracks, and several essentially "must-play" hits ("California Girls", "Surfer Girl", etc.), and there's very little room to work with.

I'd probably be willing to dump "Dance Dance Dance" first.

It will be interesting to see if "Honkin' Down the Highway" makes it back into the setlist at some point.

I was wondering if they would try to have Al do "Lady Lynda" since it was a UK hit. I know he de-Lynda'ed it on an early 90s UK tour, and normally I would think there would be any chance. But I recall that someone claimed Al had it in his setlist some years back when he was going to do that Pop Overthrow Festival gig, so I don't think he's outright opposed to doing that one.

I'm guessing the same pressures Brian gets for playing the early hits is similar to Mike's need to do Rhonda--the promoters and audience expect it to a certain extent and it gets a great response from the seats. I'm not going to lose sleep over any of those songs being included in Beach Boys related concerts.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 24, 2016, 07:44:25 AM
I loved hearing Al do Shut Down.  A nice, more casual feel about it.

I thought the sound was a bit ropey down in the stalls.  Granted, I was off to the side, so had the skewiness of hearing mostly the speakers that were placed there.  I guess the middle of the stalls might be better, unless you're overhung by the balcony above, but I wondered overall how good it could be compared to the Royal Circle, which had a much clearer, precise sound, and was nicely balanced during the PS set.

Regarding Brian's aging and performance, I thought he struggled a lot on Friday with the ballads on side 1 of Pet Sounds, the sense of which was only heightened by Matt Jardine taking over so many lines.  Sure, Brian can often veer in vocal quality between songs, but this was the first time ever I kinda felt uncomfortable listening, particularly on That's Not Me.  I put the deficiencies down to age, which happens to everyone, not any other reasons.  For a sec, I felt I could see the Telegraph reviewer's point of view.  Funnily enough, he then kicked back in with I'm Waiting For the Day and it was great from there on in.  I did notice that he didn't struggle quite so much on That's Not Me on the following show.  I think with these kind of ballads, he just has a breath issue with getting the lines out.  They're harder work.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 24, 2016, 09:07:30 AM
I will be uploading videos from the London shows, most of them from the front row.  I will update this post as videos are up.
Apologies in advance for the shaking but hard to stand still when Blondie is rocking the house..  :)


Funky Pretty: https://youtu.be/AaY0kMMGAog (https://youtu.be/AaY0kMMGAog)
Wild Honey: https://youtu.be/L1PST4ek-eU (https://youtu.be/L1PST4ek-eU)
Sail On, Sailor: https://youtu.be/tZqhlo2nAy4 (https://youtu.be/tZqhlo2nAy4)


My personal comments on the London shows:

- the highlight for me was definitely Blondie. He's like a separate gig inside the gig, a complete different show and energy.  Can't believe I got to see Blondie singing Sail On Sailor and the other two songs.  During the intermission I heard people saying that they didn't know who this guy was but it blew their minds
- a second highlight is of course Al Jardine. I loved every single second of his singing and actually most of it was in-mike.  I feel the teleprompter makes him feel more secure now
- much has been said about Brian.  It was not the greatest performance of his I have ever seen but I nevertheless feel blessed to have been in the same room with him one more time
- Gary and Billy did a great job, continuously switching instruments and sounds.  The vocal blend is a bit different than with Darian and Scott as well as their keys/vibes playing. Not worse, just different.
- "One Kind of Love" was probably the weakest song each night.  It felt rushed (especially on Saturday) and Brian doesn't seem very confident singing it yet.   The drums in the chorus could be played differently, in my opinion. Also it has an odd position in the setlist, right between "Do It Again" and "Wild Honey"
- I surprisingly actually enjoyed the car songs but I think that's because they were sung by Al
- It was cool to hear the band playing "Black Night" by Deep Purple!
- The Pet Sounds set felt less polished that I was used to, e.g. compared to 2002 or 2006
- The mix was not perfect. On Saturday Nicky's guitar was way too loud all the way through, as well as the keyboards as the beginning of some songs
- The background vocals seemed less up front than other shows I've seen.  The leads were clear and loud but the background vocals were somehow not prominent enough
- The coda of "Funky Pretty" could have especially used louder and longer background vocals
- The lights also had some issues, e.g. not illuminating the right singer/player at the right moment








Thanks so much for the videos, especially Funky Pretty!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 24, 2016, 09:30:14 AM
TODAY IS THE DAY!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 My meet and greet with the big man and chance to watch him live for the first time. Excited is not the word! Watching the clock tick, tick, tick so bloody slowly!

 So anyone else on here doing the meet n greet? I don't think I'll be leaving the venue before the gig to join others in the pub but more than happy for general chat pre and break in the venue. I'll be the excited looking one in a 'Love You' T-shirt :-D


I take it you are referring to the Manchester gig? I'll be there, but not for the m&g. What pub is everyone meeting?



Think we're all going to an Irish pub that's bang next to the venue. Come join!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 24, 2016, 01:46:20 PM
At the Meet and Greet are people using cameras or mobile phone cameras?  Do they check it to make sure the picture turned out ok?  Would they let you take it again if it was blurry?  I just want it to work out!

Also, I have a signed copy of Pet Sounds with Brian's signature.  But the pen I gave him at the time wasn't the best!  My dilemma is if I take another copy to get signed Blondie didn't play on it.  Should I just get the poster signed and maybe Holland or Carl and the Passions?  Is it two items total, or sheet music and two items?

What time is Brian coming on stage?

Help me out folks!  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on May 24, 2016, 02:06:28 PM
At the Meet and Greet are people using cameras or mobile phone cameras?  Do they check it to make sure the picture turned out ok?  Would they let you take it again if it was blurry?  I just want it to work out!
The meet and greet I attended, people were using both regular cameras and iPhones/smartphones. I brought both a camera and iPhone and the iPhone photo turned out much better. The assistants made an announcement beforehand to check your photo after you meet the guys to make sure it turns out, if not, they would retake it. I'm not sure if this is standard instructions, but they were very clear about it at the one I attended last November.

Also, I have a signed copy of Pet Sounds with Brian's signature.  But the pen I gave him at the time wasn't the best!  My dilemma is if I take another copy to get signed Blondie didn't play on it.  Should I just get the poster signed and maybe Holland or Carl and the Passions?  Is it two items total, or sheet music and two items?
I have not attended a meet and greet on this current Pet Sounds tour, but I have been trying to collect as much information, as possible, before my meet and greet later this year in Detroit. From what I gathered, you get two items signed, one of which has to be the provided poster or sheet music and then you are allowed to substitute your own personal item (an LP, photo, etc.), for the second item. My suggestion, if you really want Pet Sounds signed, give clear instructions to the assistants that you want only Brian (and Al?) on the Pet Sounds and then get Blondie on Holland, CATP or In Concert. That is my plan, as I hope to add Brian and Al to my Rolling Stone cover and will probably try to get Blondie on something else.

Please, if you have done a meet and greet on this tour, please confirm the policies. Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 24, 2016, 03:00:32 PM
Thanks Marty and also Ciff1000uk (a few pages back before shizzle started to get crazy!) for posting your experiences.

Marty that's good they mentioned about checking the photos.  I wold hate to pay all that money and not have a good memento.  I also wouldn't mind videoing the soundcheck!  :-D. But, at the same time maybe I should just sit and try to take as much in as possible.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heteronym on May 24, 2016, 03:13:38 PM
Just left the venue. Initial thoughts is that Brian was in great mood and it was a fantastic evening!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 24, 2016, 03:44:14 PM
More! More! Tell us more!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 24, 2016, 04:06:36 PM


The word is that "Honking Down the Highway" was played tonight in Manchester!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heteronym on May 24, 2016, 04:10:49 PM


The word is that "Honking Down the Highway" was played tonight in Manchester!



It was. I let out a ridiculously excited shriek when Brian announced it.

I'll post more details when I get home (on a train now). They played Little Honda which surprised me as well.

Also no Cotton Fields (apparently it was played in London)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 24, 2016, 04:19:22 PM


The word is that "Honking Down the Highway" was played tonight in Manchester!



It was. I let out a ridiculously excited shriek when Brian announced it.

I'll post more details when I get home (on a train now). They played Little Honda which surprised me as well.

Also no Cotton Fields (apparently it was played in London)

Yes it was, but I assume that it was now replaced by "Honkin'".
I'd say you traded up!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 24, 2016, 04:21:24 PM


The word is that "Honking Down the Highway" was played tonight in Manchester!



It was. I let out a ridiculously excited shriek when Brian announced it.

That is awesome.

Love You tour PLEASE!!!!!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Douchepool on May 24, 2016, 04:55:45 PM
I really hope Brian plays Honkin' Down the Highway in September when I see him...that'd make my night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 24, 2016, 05:00:47 PM
Well....that was a bit awesome.



I've got loads of pictures and video and such (including Honkin' full song). Did the meet and greet, sound check, met cool people but the gig, oh that was the highlight. Oof! Back of the net!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Please delete my account on May 24, 2016, 05:26:27 PM
Wonderful show.

I'd mostly avoided spoilers, except "Funky Pretty", so I didn't realise "Honkin' Down The Highway" was a new addition to the set. From my reaction, my amused companion said he reckoned I enjoyed that more than anyone else in the building. I said I very much doubted it. I wasn't expecting "Wake the World" or "Girl Don't Tell Me" either. A great selection of songs.

Band terrific, Brian in good mood, audience enthusiastic though not ecstatic.
I'm prepared to accept the show as possibly the last time I'll see any of the Beach Boys on stage.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Moon Dawg on May 24, 2016, 05:40:27 PM
  It's a damn shame Brian isn't coming to Ohio. Columbus would be ideal, but Cleveland or Cincinnati would be great too.  :(

 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Uncle Jesse on May 24, 2016, 09:09:36 PM
 It's a damn shame Brian isn't coming to Ohio. Columbus would be ideal, but Cleveland or Cincinnati would be great too.  :(

 

Yeah I'm going from Columbus to Detroit to see the show.  I get out of class at 3 that day so I'm gonna have to book it straight to detroit as soon as I get out.  Good thing it's on a friday!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on May 25, 2016, 12:01:28 AM
Well....that was a bit awesome.



I've got loads of pictures and video and such (including Honkin' full song). Did the meet and greet, sound check, met cool people but the gig, oh that was the highlight. Oof! Back of the net!


Will you share the video of Honkin'?  ;)




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 25, 2016, 02:09:10 AM

He did the exact same thing in Osaka...  when he was done singing, he just walked off stage.  I remember thinking it was a bit odd, but perhaps it's something he's been doing in multiple shows. 

The odd thing for me about Brian's vocals is that they seemed unexpectedly strong in the first set and encore set (I was especially surprised by how well he sang 'One Kind of Love'), but he struggled with a fair bit of the Pet Sounds material, especially the stuff from the first side, though God Only Knows and Caroline No were pretty well-sung...  he really seemed to concentrate and got those ones right. I was kind of surprised...  it was a long first set, so I thought maybe he had strained his vocals in the first set and was struggling for Pet Sounds, but then in the encore, he sounded fine.  Maybe the PS stuff is just hard to sing (and maybe that's why this will be the last PS tour). 
Every detail here was exactly the same in Dallas.

Interesting, thanks!  Someone else made a similar comment below--that the slower songs on the first side of PS were the ones he seemed to struggle with the most. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 25, 2016, 02:35:36 AM
Well....that was a bit awesome.



I've got loads of pictures and video and such (including Honkin' full song). Did the meet and greet, sound check, met cool people but the gig, oh that was the highlight. Oof! Back of the net!


Will you share the video of Honkin'?  ;)




 There will be much shared my dear friend. Probably tomorrow Morning when I get chance to sort things tonight.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pacific Ocean Blue on May 25, 2016, 03:02:54 AM
Going tomorrow to see Brian, looking forward to it.  It says on the tickets that the door opens at 7, what time has he been on stage from?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 25, 2016, 03:07:13 AM
Went on at 20:15 last night. Finished about 22:30


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on May 25, 2016, 03:48:36 AM
I would be there according to the start time of the ticket.  with no support act, the show can start immediately.  these guys don't muck around.  you don't want to miss out on the introduction of BW and 'our prayer'.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Fire Wind on May 25, 2016, 04:14:02 AM
Email the venue's box office and ask for show times.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heteronym on May 25, 2016, 05:26:32 AM
I got an email from ticket master with an official 'timetable' for the evening, and Brian wouldn't be on until 20:15. If you got an official information like this then there's no way they will start playing earlier.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heteronym on May 25, 2016, 05:44:51 AM
(sorry for the double post) My thoughts on the evening, on waking up after a very late train journey through the pennines:

This is the only second Brian Wilson concert I have attended, so I'm basing any comparisons with the 2014 Cork (Ireland) gig.

Brian was in a great mood for the first half (the hits) of the show. He cracked jokes, got the audience to sing along to 'row row row your boat' and was moving quite a bit with the more upbeat songs. He sounded really good, and introduced almost every song in his endearing child-like way. Honkin' Down the Highway was tremendous and a big surprise - Brian started to explain who would play what instrument on the following track, and suddenly announces it was Honkin'! I never saw that coming, and it was one of the highlights of the evening.

Blondie did the final three songs of the first half, and he was very cool with his guitar playing and general stage presence. He looked like he was enjoying himself, as did the crowd.

Pet Sounds started somewhat abruptly, with many people being caught out of their seats in the bar or loo. Weirdly enough I thought Brian looked less excited from there onward. And whilst his voice was certainly strong and good, he struggled quite a bit with a shortness of breath. It seemed markedly more severe than I'd ever heard or seen from him (both in Cork and YouTube videos). God Only Knows got a huge and long ovation, as expected. I also noticed that whilst every band member was being greeted by the crowd and presented by Paul Mertens, Brian just rushed to his piano not giving Mertens the opportunity to call out his name. I don't know if he does that often, but he just seemed like he wanted to avoid applauses and the adulation.

The encore was a lot of fun, but by then Brian definitely seemed a bit more turned off. Al and Matt sounded great as always though.

I thought it was a lovely evening. The audience was very appreciative of Brian and the band, and Brian seemed and looked a LOT more comfortable than when I saw him in Cork.

EDIT: Here's a review from the Manchester Evening News (http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/review-brian-wilson-manchester-o2-11381585). They have the setlist, too, but it looks obviously wrong to me, unless I blacked out during Please Let Me Wonder and Cotton Fields.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2016, 06:20:29 AM
Good to see "Honkin'" back. I'm glad they're at least mixing the setlist up a tiny bit from show to show. I wish they'd vary it a bit more, especially when they do two or three-night runs at the same venue. Especially when the second half of the show is always locked in for obvious reasons.

Also still hoping some other "new" additions show up. Would be cool to see one other Al deep cut. I don't have a KTSA fetish or anything, but both "Santa Ana Winds" and "Goin' On" are two I think the band would pull off quite well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2016, 06:24:24 AM
Wonderful show.

I'd mostly avoided spoilers, except "Funky Pretty", so I didn't realise "Honkin' Down The Highway" was a new addition to the set. From my reaction, my amused companion said he reckoned I enjoyed that more than anyone else in the building. I said I very much doubted it. I wasn't expecting "Wake the World" or "Girl Don't Tell Me" either. A great selection of songs.

Man, I have to give you props for staying spoiler free for nearly a year, since "Wake the World" has been a setlist regular since last June.

It was also interesting to see the full London performance of "Funky Pretty." Previous descriptions of it on tour suggested Blondie was singing the entire lead, but on the London video I saw, Brian took a bit (the nonsense lyrics bit), and Al was also taking a few lines.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Please delete my account on May 25, 2016, 06:35:23 AM
Here's the correct setlist (I think). Heteronym, my impressions are similar to yours. I just wrote down some more impressions but then accidentally delted them. Might try again later.

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/o2-apollo-manchester-manchester-england-1bfe95e8.html (http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/o2-apollo-manchester-manchester-england-1bfe95e8.html)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Please delete my account on May 25, 2016, 06:37:50 AM


Man, I have to give you props for staying spoiler free for nearly a year, since "Wake the World" has been a setlist regular since last June.


Yeah, I've been pretty careful. It makes such a difference to one's enjoyment I find. A concert by another band recently, I made the mistake of watching the entire set from a previous date on youtube. And they didn't change the set at all! I much prefer surprises.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 25, 2016, 06:43:17 AM


Man, I have to give you props for staying spoiler free for nearly a year, since "Wake the World" has been a setlist regular since last June.


Yeah, I've been pretty careful. It makes such a difference to one's enjoyment I find. A concert by another band recently, I made the mistake of watching the entire set from a previous date on youtube. And they didn't change the set at all! I much prefer surprises.

Yep, I certainly try to at least not watch an entire set that may end up being identical to what I'm about to see.

I was spoiled a tiny bit last year, as I had tickets to the opening show of the Summer 2015 tour, so there were no references for what might be performed. Obviously, the show had a somewhat similar setlist to other previous shows. But the "Wake the World/Busy Doin' Nothin'" combo was surprise, and at that point nobody was sure which NPP were going to be performed. He ended up doing four NPP songs to start the tour off.

The drawback to seeing an "opening night" on tour is that sometimes it's later on when they start adding other interesting, new songs.

Biggest actual surprise for me for a BW setlist is still the 2000 PS show where they performed "Let It Shine" for the first time. It's a favorite of mine, but I figured there would have been a half dozen other BW'88 songs they would have done before that one. That was a jaw-hitting-the-floor moment for sure. That was a "deep cut" setlist wish that I figured there was ZERO chance of ever hearing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 25, 2016, 06:56:08 AM
At the Meet and Greet are people using cameras or mobile phone cameras?  Do they check it to make sure the picture turned out ok?  Would they let you take it again if it was blurry?  I just want it to work out!
The meet and greet I attended, people were using both regular cameras and iPhones/smartphones. I brought both a camera and iPhone and the iPhone photo turned out much better. The assistants made an announcement beforehand to check your photo after you meet the guys to make sure it turns out, if not, they would retake it. I'm not sure if this is standard instructions, but they were very clear about it at the one I attended last November.

Also, I have a signed copy of Pet Sounds with Brian's signature.  But the pen I gave him at the time wasn't the best!  My dilemma is if I take another copy to get signed Blondie didn't play on it.  Should I just get the poster signed and maybe Holland or Carl and the Passions?  Is it two items total, or sheet music and two items?
I have not attended a meet and greet on this current Pet Sounds tour, but I have been trying to collect as much information, as possible, before my meet and greet later this year in Detroit. From what I gathered, you get two items signed, one of which has to be the provided poster or sheet music and then you are allowed to substitute your own personal item (an LP, photo, etc.), for the second item. My suggestion, if you really want Pet Sounds signed, give clear instructions to the assistants that you want only Brian (and Al?) on the Pet Sounds and then get Blondie on Holland, CATP or In Concert. That is my plan, as I hope to add Brian and Al to my Rolling Stone cover and will probably try to get Blondie on something else.

Please, if you have done a meet and greet on this tour, please confirm the policies. Thanks!
Confirm.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jim V. on May 25, 2016, 08:45:28 AM
Biggest actual surprise for me for a BW setlist is still the 2000 PS show where they performed "Let It Shine" for the first time. It's a favorite of mine, but I figured there would have been a half dozen other BW'88 songs they would have done before that one. That was a jaw-hitting-the-floor moment for sure. That was a "deep cut" setlist wish that I figured there was ZERO chance of ever hearing.

I'm pretty sure I've seen you mention this before and I wanted to ask - how was that performance of "Let It Shine" after all? It's also a favorite of mine, with a definite Beach Boys meets ELO vibe (gee, wonder why). So I'm intrigued to hear how they pulled it off live.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: garyc on May 25, 2016, 08:55:05 AM
I bought the VIP meet and greet package for the Manchester show last night. I didn't really know what to expect. There were about 35 of us and we were ushered into the hall to see the soundcheck which was great. It was like a mini concert. Lots of stage banter going on between Brian and Al and they were asking audience if sound was ok etc. Then the people who just had the soundcheck package were asked to leave. It was just one person though and he said rather meekly "just me then ?" and left. Then we queued up for the meet and greet. Brian, Al and Blondie were at the table. We had to hand our stuff to sign over to someone else then we were each asked to stand behind the table for the photo which were taken with our own cameras, phones. I asked Al to personalise my autograph which he did but then Brian instructed me to stand behind the table for the photo. After the photo was taken I got my chance for a handshake off all three then I stood near to the table to see the rest of the people go through the meet and greet. There was hardly any conversation at all apart from Brian bursting into a rendition of "Honking Down The Highway" whilst pointing at my friend ! One thing I did notice was Brian kept saying to his security "how many more ?" then rather hurridly departed after the last meet and greet. It was worth every penny though to meet these musical legends.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on May 25, 2016, 10:46:20 AM
Just saw on the BBC Radio 2 website that Brian Wilson is going to be Johnnie Walker's guest on the Sounds of the '70s show. That's Sunday at 15:00 UK time for those who want to hear it live. It will also be available on the BBC's iPlayer Radio.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b07c5rhr

From the photo, I'm guessing that Brian's interview is already in the can.

Blurb on the website:
"Johnnie Walker is joined in conversation by Brian Wilson, co-founder of The Beach Boys.

"Considered to be one of the most iconic American bands, The Beach Boys began their music career in the 1960s. The seventies saw them continue to tour and release new material with Brian's help on albums like Sunflower and Surf's Up. Brian shares his memories as he celebrates 50 years of one of the group's iconic albums, Pet Sounds."



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: JK on May 25, 2016, 10:47:28 AM
I bought the VIP meet and greet package for the Manchester show last night. I didn't really know what to expect. There were about 35 of us and we were ushered into the hall to see the soundcheck which was great. It was like a mini concert. Lots of stage banter going on between Brian and Al and they were asking audience if sound was ok etc. Then the people who just had the soundcheck package were asked to leave. It was just one person though and he said rather meekly "just me then ?" and left. Then we queued up for the meet and greet. Brian, Al and Blondie were at the table. We had to hand our stuff to sign over to someone else then we were each asked to stand behind the table for the photo which were taken with our own cameras, phones. I asked Al to personalise my autograph which he did but then Brian instructed me to stand behind the table for the photo. After the photo was taken I got my chance for a handshake off all three then I stood near to the table to see the rest of the people go through the meet and greet. There was hardly any conversation at all apart from Brian bursting into a rendition of "Honking Down The Highway" whilst pointing at my friend ! One thing I did notice was Brian kept saying to his security "how many more ?" then rather hurridly departed after the last meet and greet. It was worth every penny though to meet these musical legends.

Wow. Thanks for that, garyc. You must be really chuffed!   


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 25, 2016, 11:39:15 AM
I bought the VIP meet and greet package for the Manchester show last night. I didn't really know what to expect. There were about 35 of us and we were ushered into the hall to see the soundcheck which was great. It was like a mini concert. Lots of stage banter going on between Brian and Al and they were asking audience if sound was ok etc. Then the people who just had the soundcheck package were asked to leave. It was just one person though and he said rather meekly "just me then ?" and left. Then we queued up for the meet and greet. Brian, Al and Blondie were at the table. We had to hand our stuff to sign over to someone else then we were each asked to stand behind the table for the photo which were taken with our own cameras, phones. I asked Al to personalise my autograph which he did but then Brian instructed me to stand behind the table for the photo. After the photo was taken I got my chance for a handshake off all three then I stood near to the table to see the rest of the people go through the meet and greet. There was hardly any conversation at all apart from Brian bursting into a rendition of "Honking Down The Highway" whilst pointing at my friend ! One thing I did notice was Brian kept saying to his security "how many more ?" then rather hurridly departed after the last meet and greet. It was worth every penny though to meet these musical legends.

Hey man, welcome to SS. I was in the M&G too, felt very much the same. I wouldn't have swapped it back for the cash given the opportunity but I also don't think I'd be doing it again. I probably rambled at you at some point...I was the guy in the Love You T-Shirt


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 25, 2016, 02:06:29 PM
Well....that was a bit awesome.



I've got loads of pictures and video and such (including Honkin' full song). Did the meet and greet, sound check, met cool people but the gig, oh that was the highlight. Oof! Back of the net!


Will you share the video of Honkin'?  ;)




Certainly Sir.... https://youtu.be/e5GkKLqmleg


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 25, 2016, 02:25:22 PM
Well....that was a bit awesome.



I've got loads of pictures and video and such (including Honkin' full song). Did the meet and greet, sound check, met cool people but the gig, oh that was the highlight. Oof! Back of the net!


Will you share the video of Honkin'?  ;)




Certainly Sir.... https://youtu.be/e5GkKLqmleg



Thank you! That is a Beach Boy classic imo!  :)


I just found this 0:34 mins video of the same song played in Auckland:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcGkn5Ak1LQ


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on May 25, 2016, 02:27:35 PM
Another clip of Honkin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtpJj8h2GLs


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on May 25, 2016, 02:28:15 PM
Well....that was a bit awesome.



I've got loads of pictures and video and such (including Honkin' full song). Did the meet and greet, sound check, met cool people but the gig, oh that was the highlight. Oof! Back of the net!


Will you share the video of Honkin'?  ;)




Certainly Sir.... https://youtu.be/e5GkKLqmleg

Thanks so much for sharing! Absolutely incredible performance by Al & the rest of the band.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Douchepool on May 25, 2016, 02:30:00 PM
Loving the videos of Honkin' Down the Highway. I'm actually surprised Brian didn't pull this one out earlier.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Gorman Ruttles on May 25, 2016, 03:05:03 PM
Just left the venue. Initial thoughts is that Brian was in great mood and it was a fantastic evening!!!

definitely......have never seen Brian so obviously enjoying a show,right from the start.....wonderful


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on May 25, 2016, 09:30:27 PM
Thanks for all the M&G reviews.  Keep them coming.

I only have 4 more months to obsess about mine.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Peadar 'Big Dinner' O'Driscoll on May 25, 2016, 11:10:02 PM
Well....that was a bit awesome.



I've got loads of pictures and video and such (including Honkin' full song). Did the meet and greet, sound check, met cool people but the gig, oh that was the highlight. Oof! Back of the net!


Will you share the video of Honkin'?  ;)




Certainly Sir.... https://youtu.be/e5GkKLqmleg

Excellent, really REALLY hope they play that tonight!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ducie on May 26, 2016, 02:35:11 AM
I bought the VIP meet and greet package for the Manchester show last night. I didn't really know what to expect. There were about 35 of us and we were ushered into the hall to see the soundcheck which was great. It was like a mini concert. Lots of stage banter going on between Brian and Al and they were asking audience if sound was ok etc. Then the people who just had the soundcheck package were asked to leave. It was just one person though and he said rather meekly "just me then ?" and left. Then we queued up for the meet and greet. Brian, Al and Blondie were at the table. We had to hand our stuff to sign over to someone else then we were each asked to stand behind the table for the photo which were taken with our own cameras, phones. I asked Al to personalise my autograph which he did but then Brian instructed me to stand behind the table for the photo. After the photo was taken I got my chance for a handshake off all three then I stood near to the table to see the rest of the people go through the meet and greet. There was hardly any conversation at all apart from Brian bursting into a rendition of "Honking Down The Highway" whilst pointing at my friend ! One thing I did notice was Brian kept saying to his security "how many more ?" then rather hurridly departed after the last meet and greet. It was worth every penny though to meet these musical legends.

Hey man, welcome to SS. I was in the M&G too, felt very much the same. I wouldn't have swapped it back for the cash given the opportunity but I also don't think I'd be doing it again. I probably rambled at you at some point...I was the guy in the Love You T-Shirt

I was there with garyc and agree, it was an awesome day! (Rentatris - Also think it was me who asked about your most excellent Love You T-Shirt in the queue). Can't add much to Gary's comments - the soundcheck was cool, great to see how the band works.  The Meet and Greet was brief but I didn't feel short changed.  The actual concert itself was just as good as I expected it would be.  Not seen Brian live for a few years, but he was fully into it.  Al - sounds as good as he did back in the day, and Blondie rocks!

Anyone who's umming and ahhing about the meet and greet, I'd say definitely do it.  Rationally it's a ridiculous amount of money, but what's rational about the Beach Boys world?  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: kwan_dk on May 26, 2016, 04:31:39 AM
Just left the venue. Initial thoughts is that Brian was in great mood and it was a fantastic evening!!!

definitely......have never seen Brian so obviously enjoying a show,right from the start.....wonderful

From the sound of it, these shows must really be a hit or miss affair. When I saw Brian Saturday in London he seemed more quiet and less enthusiastic than all other times I've seen him (4) - I went to the show with two friends who've seen him 5 and 8 times before. They felt the same as me.

I guess the span between Brian's good and bad days on the road is just pretty wide. (does this phrase make sende in English? It's not my native language...)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 26, 2016, 05:08:13 AM
I have to say: I thought Blondie rocked Wild Honey in Manchester.

Wild Honey - https://youtu.be/049doGBIrS8


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on May 26, 2016, 05:09:08 AM
yeah well, the guy is 74, nearly 75. that alone. give him a break, let alone everything else he has had to deal with.
how many 74/75 year old's tour the world delivering magic these days?
be kind guys.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 26, 2016, 05:13:42 AM
yeah well, the guy is 74, nearly 75. that alone. give him a break, let alone everything else he has had to deal with.
how many 74/75 year old's tour the world delivering magic these days?
be kind guys.

I agree. The main thing that stood out to me in the m&g was how frail Brian is. It was like seeing your grandad. Then he comes out on stage and treats us to THAT show. Wow, if I can rock half as hard at him at 60 I'll be delighted!!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Please delete my account on May 26, 2016, 05:33:17 AM
Review of the Manchester show by A Hickey:
https://andrewhickey.info/2016/05/26/brian-wilson-al-jardine-and-blondie-chaplin-manchester-apollo-24516/ (https://andrewhickey.info/2016/05/26/brian-wilson-al-jardine-and-blondie-chaplin-manchester-apollo-24516/)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on May 26, 2016, 06:13:06 AM
yeah well, the guy is 74, nearly 75. that alone. give him a break, let alone everything else he has had to deal with.
how many 74/75 year old's tour the world delivering magic these days?
be kind guys.

he's 73, nearly 74.

what topics are approved for discussion?  just so i know...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on May 26, 2016, 06:21:25 AM
Review of the Manchester show by A Hickey:
https://andrewhickey.info/2016/05/26/brian-wilson-al-jardine-and-blondie-chaplin-manchester-apollo-24516/ (https://andrewhickey.info/2016/05/26/brian-wilson-al-jardine-and-blondie-chaplin-manchester-apollo-24516/)

Yep, a super piece by Andrew.
I saw this earlier on Facebook, and I'm sure Andrew wont mind me stating again (as I did on FB) that this wasn't the first time that Honkin' has been performed in the UK - The BB's did it at the infamous (closed exec) London CBS Convention in July 1977


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 26, 2016, 12:12:52 PM
Review of the Manchester show by A Hickey:
https://andrewhickey.info/2016/05/26/brian-wilson-al-jardine-and-blondie-chaplin-manchester-apollo-24516/ (https://andrewhickey.info/2016/05/26/brian-wilson-al-jardine-and-blondie-chaplin-manchester-apollo-24516/)

Yep, a super piece by Andrew.
I saw this earlier on Facebook, and I'm sure Andrew wont mind me stating again (as I did on FB) that this wasn't the first time that Honkin' has been performed in the UK - The BB's did it at the infamous (closed exec) London CBS Convention in July 1977

One other possible correction regarding the review is that it contends Brian played a 52-song setlist in 2002 in the UK (the article contrasts this to the 40-song present setlist). But I'm not sure Brian ever did *that* long of a show back in 2002. Most of the examples I'm looking at from the 2002 PS dates show a total setlist around 42-43 songs, which is very similar to the 2000 US PS shows. Perhaps Brian added ten extra songs for a particular UK date in 2002, but I've never heard of it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rentatris on May 26, 2016, 01:23:51 PM
How about adding some music to your day people?

Add Some Music to your Day - https://youtu.be/cN02CMnTawo



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on May 26, 2016, 02:13:43 PM
(https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154213343097241&substory_index=0&id=34250497240)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 26, 2016, 04:14:37 PM
I'm just back from the Edinburgh show. What can I say - BRIAN WAS UP FOR IT!!!

And so were the rest of the band!  :-D

From the moment they walked on stage Brian was very relaxed, he sang great (particularly in the first half of the show, second half some of the 'new' phrasing was more noticeable which I'm not as keen on). 

I felt the crowd were a bit subdued in the first set.  I was ready for a standing ovation from the start!  I thought by California Girls or certainly Do It Again they'd be on their feet.  I think they will be in Glasgow tomorrow!

So many great moments, particularly Surfer Girl, In My Room, Add Some Music and One Kind of Love, Don't Worry Baby, Blondie, Al, Brian, the Band!  :-D

I was row F, Centre and the mix could maybe have been better but with all those instruments it can't be easy.  I also think the band are still getting used to recent changes (maybe some slightly different keyboard sounds, different guitar effects to what I've heard before).  Has anyone else thought this?  But let me be clear, these things in no way detracted from the wonderful gig I have been lucky to see Brian put on again.  I thank God every time I see him up there giving it his all.

Roll on tomorrow when I'm going with a few others who weren't there tonight.

Can I just add, the way Brian was tonight he could do this for years to come.  He looked happy and as if he was enjoying the show. As I said before he was very relaxed.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on May 26, 2016, 06:23:19 PM
Wonderful. Great to hear!   :)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emily on May 26, 2016, 07:13:36 PM
I'm just back from the Edinburgh show. What can I say - BRIAN WAS UP FOR IT!!!

And so were the rest of the band!  :-D

From the moment they walked on stage Brian was very relaxed, he sang great (particularly in the first half of the show, second half some of the 'new' phrasing was more noticeable which I'm not as keen on). 

I felt the crowd were a bit subdued in the first set.  I was ready for a standing ovation from the start!  I thought by California Girls or certainly Do It Again they'd be on their feet.  I think they will be in Glasgow tomorrow!

So many great moments, particularly Surfer Girl, In My Room, Add Some Music and One Kind of Love, Don't Worry Baby, Blondie, Al, Brian, the Band!  :-D

I was row F, Centre and the mix could maybe have been better but with all those instruments it can't be easy.  I also think the band are still getting used to recent changes (maybe some slightly different keyboard sounds, different guitar effects to what I've heard before).  Has anyone else thought this?  But let me be clear, these things in no way detracted from the wonderful gig I have been lucky to see Brian put on again.  I thank God every time I see him up there giving it his all.

Roll on tomorrow when I'm going with a few others who weren't there tonight.

Can I just add, the way Brian was tonight he could do this for years to come.  He looked happy and as if he was enjoying the show. As I said before he was very relaxed.  ;D
I'm so pleased you enjoyed it. Was your daughter with you?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pacific Ocean Blue on May 27, 2016, 12:53:05 AM
I'm just back from the Edinburgh show. What can I say - BRIAN WAS UP FOR IT!!!

And so were the rest of the band!  :-D

From the moment they walked on stage Brian was very relaxed, he sang great (particularly in the first half of the show, second half some of the 'new' phrasing was more noticeable which I'm not as keen on). 

I felt the crowd were a bit subdued in the first set.  I was ready for a standing ovation from the start!  I thought by California Girls or certainly Do It Again they'd be on their feet.  I think they will be in Glasgow tomorrow!

So many great moments, particularly Surfer Girl, In My Room, Add Some Music and One Kind of Love, Don't Worry Baby, Blondie, Al, Brian, the Band!  :-D

I was row F, Centre and the mix could maybe have been better but with all those instruments it can't be easy.  I also think the band are still getting used to recent changes (maybe some slightly different keyboard sounds, different guitar effects to what I've heard before).  Has anyone else thought this?  But let me be clear, these things in no way detracted from the wonderful gig I have been lucky to see Brian put on again.  I thank God every time I see him up there giving it his all.

Roll on tomorrow when I'm going with a few others who weren't there tonight.

Can I just add, the way Brian was tonight he could do this for years to come.  He looked happy and as if he was enjoying the show. As I said before he was very relaxed.  ;D


I was in the upper circle, What was said above.  Brian was in good form, Blondie had a great time!!

Surfer Girl was my personal favourite

Absolutely delighted to have seen Brian, Al and the band!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 27, 2016, 05:41:44 AM
I'm just back from the Edinburgh show. What can I say - BRIAN WAS UP FOR IT!!!

And so were the rest of the band!  :-D

From the moment they walked on stage Brian was very relaxed, he sang great (particularly in the first half of the show, second half some of the 'new' phrasing was more noticeable which I'm not as keen on). 

I felt the crowd were a bit subdued in the first set.  I was ready for a standing ovation from the start!  I thought by California Girls or certainly Do It Again they'd be on their feet.  I think they will be in Glasgow tomorrow!

So many great moments, particularly Surfer Girl, In My Room, Add Some Music and One Kind of Love, Don't Worry Baby, Blondie, Al, Brian, the Band!  :-D

I was row F, Centre and the mix could maybe have been better but with all those instruments it can't be easy.  I also think the band are still getting used to recent changes (maybe some slightly different keyboard sounds, different guitar effects to what I've heard before).  Has anyone else thought this?  But let me be clear, these things in no way detracted from the wonderful gig I have been lucky to see Brian put on again.  I thank God every time I see him up there giving it his all.

Roll on tomorrow when I'm going with a few others who weren't there tonight.

Can I just add, the way Brian was tonight he could do this for years to come.  He looked happy and as if he was enjoying the show. As I said before he was very relaxed.  ;D
I'm so pleased you enjoyed it. Was your daughter with you?

Not last night Emily, but she will be tonight!  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 27, 2016, 07:03:19 AM
Anyone have a full setlist from Edinburgh? It's usually easy to pull the previous show's setlist and just note any differences. Thanks everyone for your reviews as the tour rolls along.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 27, 2016, 11:22:41 AM
I managed to get one at the end. I'll get it up tomorrow as I'm at tonight's show.

Soundcheck highlight today:  Monster Mash! Brian wants tw play it tonight!

They also did God Only Knows(up to the bridge), Don't Worry Baby, Wake the World, Wild Honey (intro), Do It Again.

Al had his usual problems with levels  :) and Brian tried to keep them moving along.  Some cool interaction when Brian asked Paul what key Monster Mash was in.  B? E?  I can't hear you Paul. G?  Then after they started playing Al went over to Brian and asked him and Brian said "G for ...I couldn't  make the rest out!

Very relaxed and worth the price of admission alone!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 27, 2016, 01:09:45 PM
I managed to get one at the end. I'll get it up tomorrow as I'm at tonight's show.

Soundcheck highlight today:  Monster Mash! Brian wants tw play it tonight! They also did God, DWB, Wake, Wild (part).
that you in the radish shirt?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 27, 2016, 02:54:16 PM
I managed to get one at the end. I'll get it up tomorrow as I'm at tonight's show.

Soundcheck highlight today:  Monster Mash! Brian wants tw play it tonight! They also did God, DWB, Wake, Wild (part).

Monster Mash would be a cool off the wall inclusion. Unlikely, but apparently a few days ago was "Half-oween", the mid-way point between Halloweens for those who are *really* into Halloween.

I really dig and hope they do more of the weird off the cuff things like "I'm Broke" and hopefully "Monster Mash." These songs aren't my favorite, but I like when they can just mix it up.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 27, 2016, 04:01:23 PM
Hell of a gig tonight.

We got Monster Mash, a burst of Proud Mary (not a very long one) and some very cool musicianship.

Blondie is the rocket up the ass that audience and band alike need. Long may he rock

Outstanding song of the night: tbc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 27, 2016, 04:04:44 PM
I managed to get one at the end. I'll get it up tomorrow as I'm at tonight's show.

Soundcheck highlight today:  Monster Mash! Brian wants tw play it tonight! They also did God, DWB, Wake, Wild (part).
that you in the radish shirt?

Just saw your post John.  It was me with the Radish Shirt!

Where did you see me?

It was another great night.  They were less chatty tonight between songs than they were last night but still fabulous.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 27, 2016, 04:40:06 PM
We were about five rows in front, right of the sound desk.

Only guessed it was you as you'd mentioned your daughter, and spotted you all squeezing by to sit down.

A splendid memorable night. If this's really the last EU tour, then I'm happy that we've wrung every delectable pleasure from the last 14 years of Brit shows. Our cup hath run over.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Outtasight! on May 28, 2016, 12:30:09 AM
The Glasgow show was poor. It gives me no pleasure to report. Of the 20 odd Brian shows I'very seen this was easily the worst. Brian was just not there. Vocal flubs, missed cues, bad phrasing, he gave up on I know there's an answer. The band seemed to lack energy. The sound had none of the definition and precision I've come to expect. Matt sounded wonderful but was mixed too low. It was uncomfortable 90% of the time. I say this as someone who has seen some transcontent Brian shows, at least 3 of which are in my top 5 concerts I've ever been too.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 28, 2016, 01:12:52 AM
The Glasgow show was poor. It gives me no pleasure to report. Of the 20 odd Brian shows I'very seen this was easily the worst. Brian was just not there. Vocal flubs, missed cues, bad phrasing, he gave up on I know there's an answer. The band seemed to lack energy. The sound had none of the definition and precision I've come to expect. Matt sounded wonderful but was mixed too low. It was uncomfortable 90% of the time. I say this as someone who has seen some transcontent Brian shows, at least 3 of which are in my top 5 concerts I've ever been too.

In your opinion!

I wouldn't have said the show was poor.  I do agree with some of your points.  I felt the mix was not great in both shows.  Last night I felt Nelson's roto toms were too quiet, particularly on WIBN where they are a big part of the song.  Nicky's guitar was too loud in places, couldn't hear enough flute on Add Some Music, and at some points Matt was too low and others too loud etc etc. (I was a few rows behind the mixing desk last night, centre).  They had problems during the soundcheck.  I've played plenty gigs over the years so know a wee bit about this stuff.  I expected better.  Maybe it's because they are still trying to get used to the different patches that Billy and Gary use on the keyboards.  Also Nicky's guitar in Edinburgh didn't sound as 'authentic' as it has on previous "Pet Sounds" tours.

I think the band have really missed the other guys, including Jeff.  They seem at bit hesitant at times.  Things like when to finish the song.  I don't think Brian's new phrasing/improvisational style particularly helps them either.  It creates a timing problem.  I would prefer it if he sang "Love and Mercy" for example the way he used to sing as it now has a feeling of making up words on the spot.  I also said they were less chatty between songs and seemed more in a hurry to get through the show, which was a shame as the Glasgow crowds are always up for it!

I also loved seeing Blondie but not everyone did.  I wouldn't have him doing the last 3 songs of set 1.  They should do a couple more after that like "Do It Again".

As I said in my Edinburgh review, none of the above detracted from my enjoyment.  I thought the show was still excellent.  Brian sounded pretty good on everything apart from a few of the "Pet Sounds" songs and the crowd loved the show.

The friends/family I was with both nights had a great time and my 7 year old daughter loved her first concert (although she started to tire near the end, it was very hot where we were seated!).  I would agree more with John Manning's words and if this was the last show then it was a good way to bow out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 28, 2016, 01:39:21 AM
Hell of a gig tonight.

We got Monster Mash, a burst of Proud Mary (not a very long one) and some very cool musicianship.

Blondie is the rocket up the ass that audience and band alike need. Long may he rock

Outstanding song of the night: tbc.



Proud Mary?! Did it sound like the booted version of him and Andy Paley? Can you describe your impression even if it was just a short performance?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 28, 2016, 01:49:55 AM
Hell of a gig tonight.

We got Monster Mash, a burst of Proud Mary (not a very long one) and some very cool musicianship.

Blondie is the rocket up the ass that audience and band alike need. Long may he rock

Outstanding song of the night: tbc.

Proud Mary?! Did it sound like the booted version of him and Andy Paley? Can you describe your impression even if it was just a short performance?

It was just the "rollin', rollin', rollin' on a river" part sung about 5 times.  They could easily do a great full version of this song!  In Edinburgh Brian spoke about the cool bass line before he started playing the song.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 28, 2016, 01:54:39 AM
Nice review and link to JK Rowling's Twitter picture of her meeting Brian!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-review-beach-boys-8064304#ywGIxeKbCQ4TqOtH.97

And another:

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/culture/music/gig-review-brian-wilson-presents-pet-sounds-edinburgh-1-4140108


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 28, 2016, 01:56:40 AM
Hell of a gig tonight.

We got Monster Mash, a burst of Proud Mary (not a very long one) and some very cool musicianship.

Blondie is the rocket up the ass that audience and band alike need. Long may he rock

Outstanding song of the night: tbc.

Proud Mary?! Did it sound like the booted version of him and Andy Paley? Can you describe your impression even if it was just a short performance?

It was just the "rollin', rollin', rollin' on a river" part sung about 5 times.  They could easily do a great full version of this song!  In Edinburgh Brian spoke about the cool bass line before he started playing the song.



Thank you!
Man, I'd really like to hear the Rock'n'Roll album and a finished Proud Mary by Brian. Maybe he and Don Was were reminded of PM during the NPP sessions....


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alan Smith on May 28, 2016, 02:33:55 AM
I managed to get one at the end. I'll get it up tomorrow as I'm at tonight's show.

Soundcheck highlight today:  Monster Mash! Brian wants tw play it tonight! They also did God, DWB, Wake, Wild (part).
that you in the radish shirt?

Just saw your post John.  It was me with the Radish Shirt!

Where did you see me?

It was another great night.  They were less chatty tonight between songs than they were last night but still fabulous.  ;D

Amazing reports from John and Mike!

Monster Mash!  The best song in the history of music performed by Brian W & Al Jardine etc.  Then Proud Mary!  Perhaps "that" rock album would see the light of day.

Mike, I can't believe you wouldn't have noticed John Manning - he'd be the guy with walking poles, sitting in a one man tent, brewing up a steel canteen of tea over a one burner butane stove.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: JK on May 28, 2016, 04:28:43 AM
(https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154213343097241&substory_index=0&id=34250497240)

Is this what you wanted to link, Andy?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154213343097241&substory_index=0&id=34250497240 (https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154213343097241&substory_index=0&id=34250497240)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 28, 2016, 07:00:15 AM
I managed to get one at the end. I'll get it up tomorrow as I'm at tonight's show.

Soundcheck highlight today:  Monster Mash! Brian wants tw play it tonight! They also did God, DWB, Wake, Wild (part).
that you in the radish shirt?

Just saw your post John.  It was me with the Radish Shirt!

Where did you see me?

It was another great night.  They were less chatty tonight between songs than they were last night but still fabulous.  ;D

Amazing reports from John and Mike!

Monster Mash!  The best song in the history of music performed by Brian W & Al Jardine etc.  Then Proud Mary!  Perhaps "that" rock album would see the light of day.

Mike, I can't believe you wouldn't have noticed John Manning - he'd be the guy with walking poles, sitting in a one man tent, brewing up a steel canteen of tea over a one burner butane stove.


 :-D In that case  Alan I don't know how I missed John. I really need to be more alert. I think my head was still in the clouds from the Meet and Greet! I did see a lot of the usual crowd as well. Guys I have been seeing for 25 years since my first Beach Boys gig in 1991. I can't believe it's been so long!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 28, 2016, 07:21:18 AM
Anyone have a full setlist from Edinburgh? It's usually easy to pull the previous show's setlist and just note any differences. Thanks everyone for your reviews as the tour rolls along.

Here it is:

Our Prayer/Heroes
Cal Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around/Shut Down/Deuce
Little Honda
Girl Don't Tell Me
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World/Add Some
Cotton Fields
Do It Again
One Kind of Love
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail on Sailor

INTERMISSION

Pet Sounds Album

ENCORE

Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Amy B. on May 28, 2016, 08:27:15 AM
Nice review and link to JK Rowling's Twitter picture of her meeting Brian!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-review-beach-boys-8064304#ywGIxeKbCQ4TqOtH.97


I love that JK Rowling and Brian met.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 28, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
Who's there tomorrow?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bossaroo on May 28, 2016, 11:48:11 PM
Nice review and link to JK Rowling's Twitter picture of her meeting Brian!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-review-beach-boys-8064304#ywGIxeKbCQ4TqOtH.97

And another:

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/culture/music/gig-review-brian-wilson-presents-pet-sounds-edinburgh-1-4140108

not THAT nice. yikes:

Quote
Unfortunately, the rest of the first set didn't quite hit those heights, the band still sounded great, but the songs were Wilson's lesser efforts, like In My Room, Surfer Girl and Don't Worry Baby. All decent in their own right, if only hinting at what Wilson was really capable of, but just not strong enough to be played one after the other for the guts of an hour.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mikeddonn on May 29, 2016, 01:54:27 AM
Nice review and link to JK Rowling's Twitter picture of her meeting Brian!

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/brian-wilson-review-beach-boys-8064304#ywGIxeKbCQ4TqOtH.97

And another:

http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/culture/music/gig-review-brian-wilson-presents-pet-sounds-edinburgh-1-4140108

not THAT nice. yikes:

Quote
Unfortunately, the rest of the first set didn't quite hit those heights, the band still sounded great, but the songs were Wilson's lesser efforts, like In My Room, Surfer Girl and Don't Worry Baby. All decent in their own right, if only hinting at what Wilson was really capable of, but just not strong enough to be played one after the other for the guts of an hour.



 I didn't agree with that part.  Those three songs were actually some of the best performed on the night!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ArchStanton on May 29, 2016, 07:06:54 AM
Not sure how anyone can slag off on any of those songs, particularly "Don't Worry Baby." Yikes.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mayoman on May 29, 2016, 11:35:30 AM
Are the Boston Pops not playing at the Tanglewood show anymore? They're not in the event description now.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 29, 2016, 01:35:06 PM
It's obviously all subjective, but I can't imagine a Brian fan who is into his poignant ballads not thinking "In My Room" is a classic.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on May 29, 2016, 01:36:40 PM
Are the Boston Pops not playing at the Tanglewood show anymore? They're not in the event description now.

I thought the Pops had always only been listed for the two Boston shows, but I haven't closely followed those shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 29, 2016, 02:13:23 PM
I'm sorry if this is not totally on topic, but just in case you don't check out the Pro Shot Concert list, I just found this on youtube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iukjCxiiFw

Brian, Al and Blondie in Toronto, Nov. 22nd 2015


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 29, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
I'm sorry if this is not totally on topic, but just in case you don't check out the Pro Shot Concert list, I just found this on youtube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iukjCxiiFw

Brian, Al and Blondie in Toronto, Nov. 22nd 2015

Many thanks.

Geez what a corporate bash! All suits and very little appreciation! blondie on stage almost throughout though, what's not to love?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on May 29, 2016, 06:49:47 PM
The show in Glasgow was incredible.

Lovely to hear "Wake the world" live, Al did such a great job. Pet sounds brought the house down and by the encore the place was rocking, the whole venue was a dance floor.

Performing "the monster mash" in May was a strange choice but the people loved it.

I loved Blondie's contribution, maybe the long solos weren't everybody's cup of tea but I loved it.

All in all, what a show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on May 29, 2016, 07:22:43 PM
According to Setlist FM, Blondie took the lead on Surfer Girl in Gateshead. If true, that's pretty interesting.  I'll be curious to see if he stayed on stage or went back until his mini-set came up. 

And yeah, it's pretty weird for a reviewer to slag off songs like 'Don't Worry Baby' and 'In My Room.' Regardless of whether one is a big fan of pre-65 BBs, those songs are pretty much stone-cold classics. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 30, 2016, 02:02:45 AM
According to Setlist FM, Blondie took the lead on Surfer Girl in Gateshead. If true, that's pretty interesting.  I'll be curious to see if he stayed on stage or went back until his mini-set came up. 

And yeah, it's pretty weird for a reviewer to slag off songs like 'Don't Worry Baby' and 'In My Room.' Regardless of whether one is a big fan of pre-65 BBs, those songs are pretty much stone-cold classics. 

He sang the bridge.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 30, 2016, 02:30:39 AM
The show in Glasgow was incredible.

Lovely to hear "Wake the world" live, Al did such a great job. Pet sounds brought the house down and by the encore the place was rocking, the whole venue was a dance floor.

Performing "the monster mash" in May was a strange choice but the people loved it.

I loved Blondie's contribution, maybe the long solos weren't everybody's cup of tea but I loved it.

All in all, what a show.

Funny having Paul von Mertens sing lead too… is this a resurfacing of that Brian humour that had Jack Reilly sing lead on Day in the Life…?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on May 30, 2016, 08:05:55 AM
I like Blondie....but his voice does not fit the bridge of Surfer Girl at all. That's an odd choice. You've got Brian and Al right there who have sung it countless times.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 30, 2016, 12:32:56 PM
Review of the Gateshead show last night:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/brian-wilson-presents-pet-sounds-at.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jukka on May 30, 2016, 02:16:57 PM
Review of the Gateshead show last night:

http://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.co.uk/2016/05/brian-wilson-presents-pet-sounds-at.html

"Chaplin, who, after spending so long playing with the Rolling Stones  bizarrely sports their somewhat weathered appearance"  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Howie Edelson on May 30, 2016, 03:50:11 PM
Blondie texted me that Brian told him the idea for him to sing "Surfer Girl" came to him in the middle of the night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on May 30, 2016, 03:53:07 PM
That's pretty awesome!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 30, 2016, 04:48:26 PM
Blondie texted me that Brian told him the idea for him to sing "Surfer Girl" came to him in the middle of the night.

That is awesome. I wonder if this was a throwback to Brian having Denny sing that SG bridge part (am I nuts, or didn't that happen a time or two back in the day?) I'd say Blondie's voice is the closest to a Denny type voice in the current band, so it would make sense.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on May 30, 2016, 05:07:59 PM
Blondie texted me that Brian told him the idea for him to sing "Surfer Girl" came to him in the middle of the night.

That's really cool

I'm surprised Brian texts  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on May 31, 2016, 05:01:12 AM
Blondie texted me that Brian told him the idea for him to sing "Surfer Girl" came to him in the middle of the night.

That's really cool

I'm surprised Brian texts  ;D

It's possible Brian does text, but it clearly says the text came from Blondie.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GuyO on May 31, 2016, 09:51:20 AM
The show in Glasgow was incredible.

Lovely to hear "Wake the world" live, Al did such a great job. Pet sounds brought the house down and by the encore the place was rocking, the whole venue was a dance floor.

Performing "the monster mash" in May was a strange choice but the people loved it.

I loved Blondie's contribution, maybe the long solos weren't everybody's cup of tea but I loved it.

All in all, what a show.

Funny having Paul von Mertens sing lead too… is this a resurfacing of that Brian humour that had Jack Reilly sing lead on Day in the Life…?

Hold on... Paul did what...?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Smilin Ed H on May 31, 2016, 11:25:15 AM
The show in Glasgow was incredible.

Lovely to hear "Wake the world" live, Al did such a great job. Pet sounds brought the house down and by the encore the place was rocking, the whole venue was a dance floor.

Performing "the monster mash" in May was a strange choice but the people loved it.

I loved Blondie's contribution, maybe the long solos weren't everybody's cup of tea but I loved it.

All in all, what a show.

Funny having Paul von Mertens sing lead too… is this a resurfacing of that Brian humour that had Jack Reilly sing lead on Day in the Life…?

Hold on... Paul did what...?

Sang Monster Mash


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on May 31, 2016, 11:39:34 AM
Blondie texted me that Brian told him the idea for him to sing "Surfer Girl" came to him in the middle of the night.

That is awesome. I wonder if this was a throwback to Brian having Denny sing that SG bridge part (am I nuts, or didn't that happen a time or two back in the day?) I'd say Blondie's voice is the closest to a Denny type voice in the current band, so it would make sense.



Imo Blondie's voice always fit the Beach Boys' sound very well. Listen to his "ta-a-a-a-a-tions" on GV from In Concert. It has such a warm quality to it (for lack of a better description).

Dennis sang the bridge for example on one of those '66 Michigan show and in Japan '66.





Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 31, 2016, 11:48:35 AM
Blondie texted me that Brian told him the idea for him to sing "Surfer Girl" came to him in the middle of the night.

That is awesome. I wonder if this was a throwback to Brian having Denny sing that SG bridge part (am I nuts, or didn't that happen a time or two back in the day?) I'd say Blondie's voice is the closest to a Denny type voice in the current band, so it would make sense.



Imo Blondie's voice always fit the Beach Boys' sound very well. Listen to his "ta-a-a-a-a-tions" on GV from In Concert. It has such a warm quality to it (for lack of a better description).

Dennis sang the bridge for example on one of those '66 Michigan show and in Japan '66.



Thanks, Rocker! I knew I hadn't imagined Denny singing it :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Howie Edelson on May 31, 2016, 04:35:04 PM
I'm dying to hear this Blondie middle-eight. Aside from the fact that this guy TRULY has pipes (and balls) so many people are buzzing over it because it's Brian delegating parts like he did when at his best --- letting it all breathe and grow. Not to mention, it's SO '70s -- the switching of a lead line between members. It's true to both Brian AND Carl. (A friend of mine who was there just said quote -- "I'd trade 45 impish Fosketts pretending to be blissed out while miming 'Good Vibes' in D.C. for just 4 Blondie 'Surfer Girl' bridges.") BOOM!!!! OUCH!!!!

Having actual Beach Boys onstage with Brian becoming even more a part of this music is what makes it WILSON.
Different vibes, different colors. It's VERY Wilson.

Man, I say give Blondie "That's Not Me."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on May 31, 2016, 04:55:11 PM
I'm dying to hear this Blondie middle-eight. Aside from the fact that this guy TRULY has pipes (and balls) so many people are buzzing over it because it's Brian delegating parts like he did when at his best --- letting it all breathe and grow. Not to mention, it's SO '70s -- the switching of a lead line between members. It's true to both Brian AND Carl. (A friend of mine who was there just said quote -- "I'd trade 45 impish Fosketts pretending to be blissed out while miming 'Good Vibes' in D.C. for just 4 Blondie 'Surfer Girl' bridges.") BOOM!!!! OUCH!!!!

Having actual Beach Boys onstage with Brian becoming even more a part of this music is what makes it WILSON.
Different vibes, different colors. It's VERY Wilson.

Man, I say give Blondie "That's Not Me."

At the Glasgow gig I slipped down front with a few others for the encore. Looking across the stage front from the right hand side and clocking that front line - Billy Hinsche, Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, Blindie Chaplin… I got a taste of what it must have been like to be at an early 70s show… geez you could see the sweat rising!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on May 31, 2016, 05:10:24 PM
I'm dying to hear this Blondie middle-eight. Aside from the fact that this guy TRULY has pipes (and balls) so many people are buzzing over it because it's Brian delegating parts like he did when at his best --- letting it all breathe and grow. Not to mention, it's SO '70s -- the switching of a lead line between members. It's true to both Brian AND Carl. (A friend of mine who was there just said quote -- "I'd trade 45 impish Fosketts pretending to be blissed out while miming 'Good Vibes' in D.C. for just 4 Blondie 'Surfer Girl' bridges.") BOOM!!!! OUCH!!!!

Having actual Beach Boys onstage with Brian becoming even more a part of this music is what makes it WILSON.
Different vibes, different colors. It's VERY Wilson.

Man, I say give Blondie "That's Not Me."

That would be a most RAD idea.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on May 31, 2016, 08:14:54 PM
I still say Blondie would do a killer "Here Today".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The Shift on June 01, 2016, 01:35:46 AM
Or Mess of Help!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 01, 2016, 06:23:15 AM
Just the idea that Brian is waking up the middle of the night and coming up with the idea of Blondie singing a random bridge, and that Brian is randomly deciding "We'll just be doing "Monster Mash" in May, thank you very much" gets me really excited. Similarly, things like a random "I'm Broke" performance are intriguing as well.

I've long said any change-up and spontaneity in the live show is exciting, even if they're not picking my all-time favorite songs. I dig "Funky Pretty", but it was never like my number one all-time setlist wish. But I've been longing to hear them do it since they soundchecked it early on the 2015 tour, if only just to hear something new.

Still hoping they manage to wedge "Leaving this Town" into the setlist at some point (which, I probably like a little more than "Funky Pretty" honestly), and otherwise have Blondie do another number or two. Have him take a few lines on "Add Some Music." The idea of Blondie taking a few lead lines or a full lead on a PS track is intriguing. It actually sounds like something that might work. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 01, 2016, 06:30:48 AM
Anyone have the Liverpool setlist?

Sounds like they soundchecked "Marcella" in Liverpool, which they haven't don't much on the last few tours. I think they only did "Marcella" three times last year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on June 01, 2016, 06:50:22 AM
Anyone have the Liverpool setlist?

Sounds like they soundchecked "Marcella" in Liverpool, which they haven't don't much on the last few tours. I think they only did "Marcella" three times last year.

Yeah they had tried "Marcella" at a London soundcheck too.


According to AH and BH on FB, in Liverpool "Marcella" replaced "Do It Again", "Then I Kissed Her" replaced "Honkin'", "Monster Mash" and one chorus of "Proud Mary" were played.  "Girl Don't Tell Me" was also played.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on June 01, 2016, 11:05:11 AM
Just the idea that Brian is waking up the middle of the night and coming up with the idea of Blondie singing a random bridge, and that Brian is randomly deciding "We'll just be doing "Monster Mash" in May, thank you very much" gets me really excited. Similarly, things like a random "I'm Broke" performance are intriguing as well.

I've long said any change-up and spontaneity in the live show is exciting, even if they're not picking my all-time favorite songs. I dig "Funky Pretty", but it was never like my number one all-time setlist wish. But I've been longing to hear them do it since they soundchecked it early on the 2015 tour, if only just to hear something new.

Still hoping they manage to wedge "Leaving this Town" into the setlist at some point (which, I probably like a little more than "Funky Pretty" honestly), and otherwise have Blondie do another number or two. Have him take a few lines on "Add Some Music." The idea of Blondie taking a few lead lines or a full lead on a PS track is intriguing. It actually sounds like something that might work. 



Great, isn't it? It reminds me of 2012 when the Beach Boys tour got rolling and they started to put in unexpected song after song... Marcella, Add Some Music To Your Day, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 01, 2016, 11:32:12 AM
Just the idea that Brian is waking up the middle of the night and coming up with the idea of Blondie singing a random bridge, and that Brian is randomly deciding "We'll just be doing "Monster Mash" in May, thank you very much" gets me really excited. Similarly, things like a random "I'm Broke" performance are intriguing as well.

I've long said any change-up and spontaneity in the live show is exciting, even if they're not picking my all-time favorite songs. I dig "Funky Pretty", but it was never like my number one all-time setlist wish. But I've been longing to hear them do it since they soundchecked it early on the 2015 tour, if only just to hear something new.

Still hoping they manage to wedge "Leaving this Town" into the setlist at some point (which, I probably like a little more than "Funky Pretty" honestly), and otherwise have Blondie do another number or two. Have him take a few lines on "Add Some Music." The idea of Blondie taking a few lead lines or a full lead on a PS track is intriguing. It actually sounds like something that might work. 



Great, isn't it? It reminds me of 2012 when the Beach Boys tour got rolling and they started to put in unexpected song after song... Marcella, Add Some Music To Your Day, I Just Wasn't Made For These Times etc.

It's also interesting to know which additions are somewhat off the cuff versus rehearsed at the beginning of a tour. For instance, "Marcella" was (as infamously depicted in the RS article) added after the tour started by Brian. Whereas, I believe "IJWMFTT" was rehearsed from the beginning, as Bruce teased something pre-tour that had "Spanish lyrics" or something to that effect.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on June 01, 2016, 09:17:09 PM
Blondie on "Student Demonstration Time."  I honestly think it would be cool.....


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 02, 2016, 07:05:17 AM
I'm continually updating the setlists on the top post for those who want to catalog the changes over the course of the tour.

Including all the little snippets and whatnot, the setlist is up to as many as 42 songs per show now. Not sure if "Monster Mash" is really going to survive to the end of the tour, but please bring on more of the off-kilter song selections?

Still waiting for "Goin' On"!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on June 02, 2016, 07:39:41 AM
Anyone have the Liverpool setlist?

Sounds like they soundchecked "Marcella" in Liverpool, which they haven't don't much on the last few tours. I think they only did "Marcella" three times last year.

Yeah they had tried "Marcella" at a London soundcheck too.


According to AH and BH on FB, in Liverpool "Marcella" replaced "Do It Again", "Then I Kissed Her" replaced "Honkin'", "Monster Mash" and one chorus of "Proud Mary" were played.  "Girl Don't Tell Me" was also played.




Is Proud Mary being performed like the Paley Sessions version?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: JK on June 02, 2016, 08:12:39 AM
I'm continually updating the setlists on the top post for those who want to catalog the changes over the course of the tour.

Thanks, HJ. I haven't read all 50-something pages for comments (no stamina) but I see mainland Europe is still represented by just three dates, two of them in the Iberian Peninsula! I can't imagine it staying that way, at least I hope not.   


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: markb on June 02, 2016, 09:30:22 AM
Saw the guys in Nottingham last night. This was my fourth show of the U.K. tour and easily the one with the oldest audience. Think this meant that the response was extremely positive as opposed to the raucous reception the guys got in Cardiff and London. Brian did a great job on God only knows and sloop with al. Don't worry baby was a standout in all the shows I saw and I thought the band sounded excellent. My only moan was that Barbara Ann seems to be getting slower and slower! They need to listen to some of the shows from summer 1993 when it really rocked. I also was fortunate enough to be in the soundcheck - marcella, don't worry, sloop, couple of lines of monster mash, Brian in good spirits. Overall a great tour. A personal view is that this incarnation of the band is outstanding. Yes, Darian was missed but there is complete integrity in what the guys do and the crowds were massively appreciative. Fingers crossed that I get to see them do it again at some point soon but , if not, it is a great way to bow out.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on June 04, 2016, 03:42:09 AM
I just wanted to say thanks to all of the British fans for your great reviews.  I was looking forward to this thread for the British leg of the tour, and you guys did not disappoint! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rich Panteluk on June 05, 2016, 03:12:56 PM
Final post on this I promise!

Hello Folks!

I have some Brian Wilson, Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin tickets that I have to sell (or trade) for the Las Vegas and Toronto Pet Sounds shows - face value.

I have two wonderful tickets to Brian Wilson (With Al Jardine and Blondie Chaplin) on Friday July 1, 2016 in Las Vegas at The Joint in The Hard Rock that I can't use due to a maddening work conflict. I bought tickets to Massey Hall a few days later (July 4) in Toronto instead and now it seems I cannot use those either. Anyhow, I believe the Las Vegas show is now sold out. I am not a scalper and am just looking to recoup what I paid. The seats are great. They are in the Gold2 section Row KK (the two seats are together, of course) which is 11th row centre on the floor in the orchestra section. This is prime seating as if you are much closer you may not see Brian with his white piano obscuring his body and head. This has happened to me before so these seats are up close but not too close. Anyhow please contact me if you are interested. The 2 Toronto Massey Hall tickets are also very good seats (right balcony - which is best view for seeing Brian's face when he performs) RSB2 Row E.

If you have any interest or know someone who does please send them my way:

richp20@hotmail.com

I live in Calgary, Alberta, Canada and these are hard tickets in my current possession, not sketchy e-tickets. Buyer pays shipping.

I am now planning on attending the Hollywood Bowl show and would be happy to do a trade if you have premium seats for that.

Also, has anyone ever used StubHub for SELLING tickets?  Just curious if you would recommend them or not.  Just wanna make sure that these tickets get used and I make back the cash I paid.  Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 06, 2016, 08:32:04 AM
I've updated the setlists on the top post.

Not surprisingly for a "festival" gig, the June 4th Barcelona show was shortened quite a bit, and they appear to have pretty much just done the PS album (and opened the show with it), and then did what you could either call a *really long* encore, or a shortened second set.

It's also kind of hilarious that in a truncated 24-song setlist where only 11 songs were performed after PS, they *did* keep "Monster Mash" in!

Also interesting that it's one of few shows where "Barbara Ann" was dropped.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on June 06, 2016, 10:14:32 AM
Few friends of mine we're at the Barcelona festival .. By all accounts the band we're on fire and Brian was a highlight for the weekend


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on June 06, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
Few friends of mine we're at the Barcelona festival .. By all account then band we're on fire and Brian was a highlight for the weekend

Wonderful - waiting for reports from my friends who were there, as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 06, 2016, 07:01:23 PM
Brian is playing the Mid-State Fair in Paso Robles, CA on July 29.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/entertainment/mid-state-fair/article82167172.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on June 06, 2016, 07:12:03 PM
I hope Brian plays a longer set when I see him on Sunday in Brooklyn.  Either way, I'm glad to hear the Pet Sounds album played live but I was looking forward to hearing some rarities too.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on June 07, 2016, 10:16:24 PM
I hope Brian plays a longer set when I see him on Sunday in Brooklyn.  Either way, I'm glad to hear the Pet Sounds album played live but I was looking forward to hearing some rarities too.

Based on the sets so far, for a full-length show, you can probably expect to get somewhere between 38 and 42 songs.  If 'Wake the World' 'Wild Honey' 'Funky Pretty' 'Our Prayer' and 'Add Some Music' qualify as rarities (to me they are at least deep cuts), then I think you can pretty much count on them being there.  I'm not a big fan of 'Monster Mash,' but if they play that, I think it definitely qualifies as a 'rarity'!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 08, 2016, 08:17:45 AM
I hope Brian plays a longer set when I see him on Sunday in Brooklyn.  Either way, I'm glad to hear the Pet Sounds album played live but I was looking forward to hearing some rarities too.

Based on the sets so far, for a full-length show, you can probably expect to get somewhere between 38 and 42 songs.  If 'Wake the World' 'Wild Honey' 'Funky Pretty' 'Our Prayer' and 'Add Some Music' qualify as rarities (to me they are at least deep cuts), then I think you can pretty much count on them being there.  I'm not a big fan of 'Monster Mash,' but if they play that, I think it definitely qualifies as a 'rarity'!

I think the curiosity/concern with the Brooklyn gig might be that it's another festival gig, and often (as in the case of Brian's Primavera gig in Spain recently, and past instances like the BB reunion tour at Bonnaroo) festival gigs feature shorter setlists. So for Primavera, Brian came out and did PS first and then did a short second set, for a total of about 24 songs instead of the usual 38 to 42. Not sure if the Brooklyn Northside Festival gig will be similar; perhaps it depends on how many artists are scheduled for each day.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: J.G. Dev on June 08, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
Hope none of the band was nearby

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/06/08/shooting-in-tel-aviv-leaves-9-injured-gunman-arrested.html?intcmp=hpbt4


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on June 08, 2016, 04:28:53 PM
Odd that Brian's social media pages haven't commented.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 08, 2016, 04:29:53 PM
Probyn did on facebook.  They were nowhere near


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on June 08, 2016, 06:01:00 PM
Brian is scheduled to play from 8:15 to 10:00.  How many songs do you think they could fit into that time frame?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GuyO on June 08, 2016, 09:43:38 PM
Brian is scheduled to play from 8:15 to 10:00.  How many songs do you think they could fit into that time frame?

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/raanana-park-amphitheater-tel-aviv-israel-3bfe2c78.html

First set only 12 songs, then Pet Sounds, lastly full encore except Love & Mercy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 09, 2016, 06:15:22 AM
Brian is scheduled to play from 8:15 to 10:00.  How many songs do you think they could fit into that time frame?

If there's no intermission, they could cram more songs in, but I'd guess in that slot that they would be unlikely to do the full 40-ish song setlist.

Kind of surprised the Israel gig was truncated; that wasn't a festival gig or anything as far as I know. Hopefully once they get back to "regular" theater/amphitheater gigs, they'll be back to the normal show length.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 09, 2016, 07:09:51 AM
Review of the Israel show (with a pic or two):

http://www.timesofisrael.com/on-dark-night-beach-boy-brian-wilson-brings-sunny-vibes-to-israel/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on June 09, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
A couple of impressions of the Tel Aviv show (including a.o. a complete You Still Believe In Me). Thanks to the original uploader:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLdPf6CRiPk


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the professor on June 11, 2016, 08:59:03 AM
did anyone hear/read an interview with BW, somewhere in his current tour, saying he would like to go back on the road with the BB again because 2012 was such a blast?

thanks


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: terrei on June 12, 2016, 02:36:00 AM
"You have another solo Hollywood Bowl coming up in July on this tour. What’s the biggest difference between performing these songs with your solo band versus with the Beach Boys, as you did at the Bowl back in 2012?"
"I don’t want to talk about that. But the Hollywood Bowl, I love that place. It’s a great place to play."

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/brian-wilson-pet-sounds-beach-boys-50th-anniversary-interview-2016


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on June 12, 2016, 07:36:17 PM
Quick comments:  Of all the times I've seen Brian and the band, that was probably the roughest.  It wasn't really their fault.  It was an outdoor gig on a windy day so mics and instruments went out occasionally though it wasn't a huge issue.  Brian was in good voice for the most part though he did forget the lyrics to I Just Wasn't Made for These Times at one point and got frustrated, yelling "Wrong!" But the band kept playing and he recovered.  Al's voice was completely shot.  I think he may have had a cold and they avoided having him sing leads.  This was probably first Beach Boys related show I've seen when Al didn't sing Help Me Rhonda and Brian sang most of Sloop John B himself (and did a very good job).  This was probably the first time I've seen Brian in better voice than Al.  It was an abbreviated set, no deep cuts.  Blondie did Wild Honey and Sail On Sailor but did not sing on Surfer Girl as I've heard he's done lately.  Brian sang the bridge as usual.  There were no band introductions and no encore.  Billy Hinsche was there in place of Darian (where is Darian?) and did a pretty cool keyboard duel with Gary Griffin on Fun Fun Fun.  It was a bit of a mess but it was a lot of fun and the guys put their all into it despite the setbacks.  The audience, a mix of young and old was very enthusiastic and seeing my favorite album played in its entirety was a wonderful experience.  I was singing my heart out the entire time.

Setlist:
California Girls
I Get Around
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wild Honey
Sail On Sailor
Pet Sounds album (with a little bit of Row Row Row Your Boat halfway through)
Good Vibrations
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 13, 2016, 06:18:26 AM
Billy Hinsche was there in place of Darian (where is Darian?) and did a pretty cool keyboard duel with Gary Griffin on Fun Fun Fun.  

As mentioned previously in the thread, Billy has been filling in for Darian, doing gigs starting on May 15 in the UK, and I believe his run ends with the June 19th show.

I don't know if Darian will be missing any other runs of shows on the tour.

As for the show review (I'm assuming it's a review of the Brooklyn show?), the setlist looks very similar to the previous gig at Primavera in Portugal. It appears for the "Festival" gigs, Brian is essentially just doing "Pet Sounds" and then a handful of additional songs.

I think it's a good idea in theory to book the festivals, it's good industry and "indie" cred. But certainly the full-length, indoor theater shows typically yield better overall results both for the band and audience.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 13, 2016, 06:21:48 AM
This was probably first Beach Boys related show I've seen when Al didn't sing Help Me Rhonda and Brian sang most of Sloop John B himself (and did a very good job).  

I'm curious, did they drop "Rhonda", or did someone else (Brian or Matt?) sing it? The setlist.fm website setlist includes "Rhonda."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on June 13, 2016, 06:24:02 AM
This was probably first Beach Boys related show I've seen when Al didn't sing Help Me Rhonda and Brian sang most of Sloop John B himself (and did a very good job).  

I'm curious, did they drop "Rhonda", or did someone else (Brian or Matt?) sing it? The setlist.fm website setlist includes "Rhonda."

They did not do Help Me Rhonda.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 13, 2016, 06:36:11 AM
This was probably first Beach Boys related show I've seen when Al didn't sing Help Me Rhonda and Brian sang most of Sloop John B himself (and did a very good job).  

I'm curious, did they drop "Rhonda", or did someone else (Brian or Matt?) sing it? The setlist.fm website setlist includes "Rhonda."

They did not do Help Me Rhonda.

Thanks for confirming. One of the drawbacks of that setlist website is that you can copy and paste other setlists and drop them into a new show date, so I think sometimes people take the previous show's setlist without making needed changes.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on June 13, 2016, 07:18:31 AM
This was probably first Beach Boys related show I've seen when Al didn't sing Help Me Rhonda and Brian sang most of Sloop John B himself (and did a very good job).  

I'm curious, did they drop "Rhonda", or did someone else (Brian or Matt?) sing it? The setlist.fm website setlist includes "Rhonda."

They did not do Help Me Rhonda.

It makes sense if Al wasn't feeling well, I'm thinking.  I saw Steve Desper speaking on another thread about Mike L having a cold and how these things happen.  It's called a live performance.  These things happen.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Howie Edelson on June 13, 2016, 07:26:01 AM
Al was definitely under the weather, but in great spirits. From what I could see of the crowd, it was VERY young compared to recent NYC  gigs and very music centric. I'd say an average age of 30, maybe? When Brian would change his phrasing, or when he missed a line, the crowd was extremely loud -- like a mic'd voice singing along to PET SOUNDS. Very cool, and very unlike anything I've seen before -- singing along en masse to deep LP cuts.  He easily could've gotten away with FRIENDS or LOVE YOU with this audience. Nice to see some chicks and kids on guys' shoulders.

In all, a far "hipper" crowd than Jones Beach last year, or any of the C50 shows (granted Williamsburg is a musical/artistic hub). That said, they weren't at all snobs about the pre-'66 material.

It's a hot show, a LOT of buzz, and with the turnout, I think it's safe to say that for the next NYC appearance following the Beacon, it's time to bump it up to Radio City. If Jeff Lynne can book two nights at Radio City playing a third of the hits Brian does (and on the back of a stiff LP for Columbia), Brian -- with Al, (much more) Blondie, PS or SMILE, can absolutely snag those numbers. His stature -- the looming 75th birthday and his rep -- deserves it. Bonnie Raitt is a Beacon show. Bryan Adams is a Beacon show.

This is the real Beach Boys -- at the very least, book Carnegie for three nights.

Always great to see Billy next to Brian and GOTTA say -- this Matt Jardine is incredible. Watching him as he blends the note from Brian's last into his own falsetto -- this guy's major.
He's keeping something very real alive.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on June 13, 2016, 09:26:31 AM
Al was definitely under the weather, but in great spirits. From what I could see of the crowd, it was VERY young compared to recent NYC  gigs and very music centric. I'd say an average age of 30, maybe? When Brian would change his phrasing, or when he missed a line, the crowd was extremely loud -- like a mic'd voice singing along to PET SOUNDS. Very cool, and very unlike anything I've seen before -- singing along en masse to deep LP cuts.  He easily could've gotten away with FRIENDS or LOVE YOU with this audience. Nice to see some chicks and kids on guys' shoulders.

In all, a far "hipper" crowd than Jones Beach last year, or any of the C50 shows (granted Williamsburg is a musical/artistic hub). That said, they weren't at all snobs about the pre-'66 material.

It's a hot show, a LOT of buzz, and with the turnout, I think it's safe to say that for the next NYC appearance following the Beacon, it's time to bump it up to Radio City. If Jeff Lynne can book two nights at Radio City playing a third of the hits Brian does (and on the back of a stiff LP for Columbia), Brian -- with Al, (much more) Blondie, PS or SMILE, can absolutely snag those numbers. His stature -- the looming 75th birthday and his rep -- deserves it. Bonnie Raitt is a Beacon show. Bryan Adams is a Beacon show.

This is the real Beach Boys -- at the very least, book Carnegie for three nights.

Always great to see Billy next to Brian and GOTTA say -- this Matt Jardine is incredible. Watching him as he blends the note from Brian's last into his own falsetto -- this guy's major.
He's keeping something very real alive.
I do love the Beacon shows but I agree with you, Radio City would be a great get for Brian.

The Brooklyn show was wild. Just as Howie said, it was a very young crowd of music geeks (I felt right at home!) that knew every word of EVERY song, which gave it a unique vibe. Huge cheers when Blondie was introduced, and likewise a cheer when Sail on Sailor was introduced.
One guy I saw in line was wearing a "Keep it clean with Al Jardine" t-shirt... anyone here perchance? ;)

I thought Brian started out pretty rough on California Girls, but found his voice as the show got going. The hits were fun and the Pet Sounds album was well-played and enjoyable. That's Not Me, never a particular favorite, was a surprise standout for me -- performed with some real bite to it. To me some of the lyrics have added resonance after the Landy years.

Funny Brian intro to You Still Believe In Me, from memory -- "This one's not so much a rock-and-roll song. It's about a guy who's been very uncool to his girl, but she still loves him anyway! HAHAHA." (crowd laughs)

I did wish there had been a few more deep cuts, but definitely a fun night and a unique experience.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the professor on June 14, 2016, 08:04:16 PM
Oh, thanks. . . . . that's sad. . . . . .

"You have another solo Hollywood Bowl coming up in July on this tour. What’s the biggest difference between performing these songs with your solo band versus with the Beach Boys, as you did at the Bowl back in 2012?"
"I don’t want to talk about that. But the Hollywood Bowl, I love that place. It’s a great place to play."

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/brian-wilson-pet-sounds-beach-boys-50th-anniversary-interview-2016


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 15, 2016, 08:11:44 AM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on June 15, 2016, 09:55:53 AM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.

Yep! I was there and can report back when I get home. Yes, it was a full setlist (more than 40 songs I think). Show was good - Brian's voice wasn't as good as last time I saw them (2015) and he needed help walking (he complained that his back was in pain). Al has a cold and his voice was raspy, but they did do Help me, Rhonda. Other interesting choices: Funky Pretty, Do it Again. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mayoman on June 15, 2016, 01:23:39 PM
I have two extra lawn tickets to the Tanglewood show this Sunday. PM me if interested, $50 for both which is below face value.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on June 15, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.

Yep! I was there and can report back when I get home. Yes, it was a full setlist (more than 40 songs I think). Show was good - Brian's voice wasn't as good as last time I saw them (2015) and he needed help walking (he complained that his back was in pain). Al has a cold and his voice was raspy, but they did do Help me, Rhonda. Other interesting choices: Funky Pretty, Do it Again. 
I was really hoping for Funky Pretty at the Brooklyn show... not to be. Glad that you got it!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on June 15, 2016, 11:12:14 PM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.

Yep! I was there and can report back when I get home. Yes, it was a full setlist (more than 40 songs I think). Show was good - Brian's voice wasn't as good as last time I saw them (2015) and he needed help walking (he complained that his back was in pain). Al has a cold and his voice was raspy, but they did do Help me, Rhonda. Other interesting choices: Funky Pretty, Do it Again. 
I was really hoping for Funky Pretty at the Brooklyn show... not to be. Glad that you got it!



The setlist on Setlist FM says 40 songs...  fairly standard, but 'You're So Good To Me' made it for the first time in the tour (I think).  There was also both 'Wake The World' and 'Cottonfields,' indicating that Al must be feeling a bit better!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 16, 2016, 06:13:38 AM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.

Yep! I was there and can report back when I get home. Yes, it was a full setlist (more than 40 songs I think). Show was good - Brian's voice wasn't as good as last time I saw them (2015) and he needed help walking (he complained that his back was in pain). Al has a cold and his voice was raspy, but they did do Help me, Rhonda. Other interesting choices: Funky Pretty, Do it Again. 
I was really hoping for Funky Pretty at the Brooklyn show... not to be. Glad that you got it!



The setlist on Setlist FM says 40 songs...  fairly standard, but 'You're So Good To Me' made it for the first time in the tour (I think).  There was also both 'Wake The World' and 'Cottonfields,' indicating that Al must be feeling a bit better!


You are correct, I believe. "You're So Good To Me" was done sporadically in 2015, though not very often. They did it in San Francisco in September. That's one I actually wish they'd give to Al to sing; he sounded good singing that one with his "Family & Friends" band back in 1999/2000. I used to think it was probably outside his vocal range, but then all of a sudden in 2012 he started doing "Wouldn't It Be Nice" again and sounding shockingly good, so I think he could do it.

Also glad to see the setlist back to normal length, and that Al's stuff is being added back into the setlist.

I'm curious now if "Monster Mash" will survive through the entire tour!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: J.G. Dev on June 16, 2016, 06:43:20 AM
I was a the Portland show last night (2nd row). Brian was in very good spirits and very engaged. I've seen him many times and you can pretty much tell within 20 seconds or so after he hits the stage whether he'll be on that night, and he was. His voice did crack a few times and in my opinion, is getting a bit weaker, which is understandable, the man will be 74 in a few days. His voice isn't going to get stronger at this point. Al was still fighting the last affects of his cold I believe, but he got stronger as the night went on. During Cottonfields he mentioned that it went to #1 all over the world except for in the States. They started the song and Al realized he had the wrong guitar (acoustic) and yelled "wait, stop! I have the wrong guitar!". The band kept going though and he said "ok, oh well", and proceeded on. Funky Pretty was outstanding, and Pet Sounds was fantastic from start to finish.  They also did YSGTM. Brian dedicated L&M to the people of Orlando.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on June 16, 2016, 07:52:03 AM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.

Yep! I was there and can report back when I get home. Yes, it was a full setlist (more than 40 songs I think). Show was good - Brian's voice wasn't as good as last time I saw them (2015) and he needed help walking (he complained that his back was in pain). Al has a cold and his voice was raspy, but they did do Help me, Rhonda. Other interesting choices: Funky Pretty, Do it Again.  
I was really hoping for Funky Pretty at the Brooklyn show... not to be. Glad that you got it!



The setlist on Setlist FM says 40 songs...  fairly standard, but 'You're So Good To Me' made it for the first time in the tour (I think).  There was also both 'Wake The World' and 'Cottonfields,' indicating that Al must be feeling a bit better!


Setlist is wrong!  On many fronts.  Someone has just cut and pasted it.  At the June 14 Vermont show they did NOT do Girl Don't Tell Me, Monster Mash, Cottonfields, or Love and Mercy.  Also, the order of the encore is wrong.  I wrote down the setlist but don't have the paper with me right now; I'll update later.  I'll also try to edit Setlist. 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on June 16, 2016, 08:13:18 AM
In fact, at one point Brian actually said (I assume in response to someone in the front rows?) "No, we're not doing Cottonfields". 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 16, 2016, 08:18:51 AM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.

Yep! I was there and can report back when I get home. Yes, it was a full setlist (more than 40 songs I think). Show was good - Brian's voice wasn't as good as last time I saw them (2015) and he needed help walking (he complained that his back was in pain). Al has a cold and his voice was raspy, but they did do Help me, Rhonda. Other interesting choices: Funky Pretty, Do it Again.  
I was really hoping for Funky Pretty at the Brooklyn show... not to be. Glad that you got it!



The setlist on Setlist FM says 40 songs...  fairly standard, but 'You're So Good To Me' made it for the first time in the tour (I think).  There was also both 'Wake The World' and 'Cottonfields,' indicating that Al must be feeling a bit better!


Setlist is wrong!  On many fronts.  Someone has just cut and pasted it.  At the June 14 Vermont show they did NOT do Girl Don't Tell Me, Monster Mash, Cottonfields, or Love and Mercy.  Also, the order of the encore is wrong.  I wrote down the setlist but don't have the paper with me right now; I'll update later.  I'll also try to edit Setlist. 



Thanks for fixing that. I don't know for sure, but I think the user on that setlist.fm website is the same user that often jumps the gun on setlists and details and whatnot.

I'm not one to throw stones since I spent plenty of time on the internet, but that site seems to have a few people who seem to get off on being the first to post a show listing or setlist, even at the expense of accuracy, and seem to be able to have all the free time in the world to doodle around on that site. Maybe it's the same people who rush to update someone's death on their Wikipedia page.  :3d


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on June 16, 2016, 10:39:22 AM
Very glad to hear Al is doing better!
That was the other thing that was a bit off about the Brooklyn show. Missed Al's leads and (I imagine) the extra richness his voice at its peak adds to the harmonies.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: J.G. Dev on June 16, 2016, 02:35:45 PM
Portland show review
http://www.pressherald.com/2016/06/16/concert-review-surf-sounds-old-favorites-and-love-mercy-from-brian-wilson/

The sounds of summer filled Merrill Auditorium on Wednesday night as Brian Wilson appeared for a long-sold-out concert.

Backed by a solid 10-piece band, including fellow original Beach Boys member Al Jardine, the legendary singer-songwriter packed two and a half hours with hits from the band’s golden era and beyond.

At the center of it all was a 50th anniversary tribute to the highly respected album “Pet Sounds,” an innovative set of songs built around feelings of love, longing and regret, which was performed in its entirety.

As chronicled in the recent biopic “Love & Mercy,” Wilson drew upon an array of sources and methods in creating “Pet Sounds.” He and his band brought all of that to the Merrill stage. Along with the expected reverb-heavy guitars, there were multiple brass and woodwind instruments, vibes, keyboards, and various large and small percussion instruments employed. On top of that, were the famous vocal harmonies and choral arrangements, with singing parts for as many as seven band members.

The 73 year-old Wilson, who was assisted in getting on and off stage, sat at the piano and sang well in the middle range of his distinctive voice. His signature falsetto parts were ably handled by Jardine’s son, Matthew. Their shared vocals worked to particularly good advantage on the dreamy and wistful “Caroline, No.”

“God Only Knows” was another standout from the “Pet Sounds” portion of the evening. Building on harmonies and counterpoint to become a sort of hymn, the song followed up on the romantic sentiments expressed earlier in “Wouldn’t It Be Nice.” “Sloop John B” featured a solid vocal from the elder Jardine.

Much of the rest of the program was given over to a still-impressive string of Beach Boys hits, many of which provided the soundtrack for a youth culture built on hot rods, cool girls and hanging out at the beach.

“California Girls” was the first of many songs to earn a standing ovation, while “I Get Around” got the crowd moving as multi-colored beams of light shown down from above. “Shut Down” featured some nice surf guitar and the “Little Deuce Coupe” still roared. Wilson noted that he had written “Surfer Girl” as a 19-year-old while driving his car.

“In My Room” confirmed the melancholy strain that runs through some of Wilson’s best work, while the leader’s well-documented, child-like eccentricities came to the fore as he twice led the audience in sing-alongs of “Row, Row, Row Your Boat.”

Singer/guitarist Blondie Chaplin, a Beach Boys member in the 1970s, took the lead for a short set capped by a full-bodied take of “Sail On, Sailor.”

“Good Vibrations,” complete with the famous Theremin sound, led off a sturdy collection of encore tunes that included “Help Me, Rhonda” and “Surfin’ USA.”

Wilson chose to finish the evening with the title piece from “Love & Mercy,” which he dedicated to “all the people of Orlando.”

Steve Feeney is a freelance writer who lives in Portland.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on June 16, 2016, 04:57:10 PM
Portland show review
http://www.pressherald.com/2016/06/16/concert-review-surf-sounds-old-favorites-and-love-mercy-from-brian-wilson/

The sounds of summer filled Merrill Auditorium on Wednesday night as Brian Wilson appeared for a long-sold-out concert.

Backed by a solid 10-piece band, including fellow original Beach Boys member Al Jardine, the legendary singer-songwriter packed two and a half hours with hits from the band’s golden era and beyond.

At the center of it all was a 50th anniversary tribute to the highly respected album “Pet Sounds,” an innovative set of songs built around feelings of love, longing and regret, which was performed in its entirety.

As chronicled in the recent biopic “Love & Mercy,” Wilson drew upon an array of sources and methods in creating “Pet Sounds.” He and his band brought all of that to the Merrill stage. Along with the expected reverb-heavy guitars, there were multiple brass and woodwind instruments, vibes, keyboards, and various large and small percussion instruments employed. On top of that, were the famous vocal harmonies and choral arrangements, with singing parts for as many as seven band members.

The 73 year-old Wilson, who was assisted in getting on and off stage, sat at the piano and sang well in the middle range of his distinctive voice. His signature falsetto parts were ably handled by Jardine’s son, Matthew. Their shared vocals worked to particularly good advantage on the dreamy and wistful “Caroline, No.”

“God Only Knows” was another standout from the “Pet Sounds” portion of the evening. Building on harmonies and counterpoint to become a sort of hymn, the song followed up on the romantic sentiments expressed earlier in “Wouldn’t It Be Nice.” “Sloop John B” featured a solid vocal from the elder Jardine.

Much of the rest of the program was given over to a still-impressive string of Beach Boys hits, many of which provided the soundtrack for a youth culture built on hot rods, cool girls and hanging out at the beach.

“California Girls” was the first of many songs to earn a standing ovation, while “I Get Around” got the crowd moving as multi-colored beams of light shown down from above. “Shut Down” featured some nice surf guitar and the “Little Deuce Coupe” still roared. Wilson noted that he had written “Surfer Girl” as a 19-year-old while driving his car.

“In My Room” confirmed the melancholy strain that runs through some of Wilson’s best work, while the leader’s well-documented, child-like eccentricities came to the fore as he twice led the audience in sing-alongs of “Row, Row, Row Your Boat.”

Singer/guitarist Blondie Chaplin, a Beach Boys member in the 1970s, took the lead for a short set capped by a full-bodied take of “Sail On, Sailor.”

“Good Vibrations,” complete with the famous Theremin sound, led off a sturdy collection of encore tunes that included “Help Me, Rhonda” and “Surfin’ USA.”

Wilson chose to finish the evening with the title piece from “Love & Mercy,” which he dedicated to “all the people of Orlando.”

Steve Feeney is a freelance writer who lives in Portland.


Very nice - thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mayoman on June 17, 2016, 04:22:34 PM
Two lawn seat some to Tanglewood still available, make me an offer!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on June 17, 2016, 06:04:41 PM
Intermission at the Boston Pops show they cut a good amount of songs for this show. All the car songs gone except I Get Around, no Funky Pretty  :'(   And they moved the faster songs dance dance and get around to the end of the set before Blondie's spot. Al sounded great on Wake the World so I think he's better. No kissed her, cotton or honkin so that was cut as well. Brian in pretty good voice, sounded great with Orchestea. Brian made funny comment about how he wrote dance dance dance for Mike but since Mike's on his own tour as the Beach Boys he'll sing it. Then he said don't ask why it's really complicated all you need to know is I'm Brian Wilson and he's the Beach Boys. Overall good first half. Sorry for the scattered comments will try for more complete thoughts later after the show.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on June 17, 2016, 07:42:24 PM
Brian made funny comment about how he wrote dance dance dance for Mike but since Mike's on his own tour as the Beach Boys he'll sing it. Then he said don't ask why it's really complicated all you need to know is I'm Brian Wilson and he's the Beach Boys.


Hahaha!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on June 17, 2016, 07:49:09 PM
:lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on June 17, 2016, 08:15:36 PM
Truly was a hilarious moment. He mentioned Mike again during the Pet Sounds part of the show saying how That's Not Me Was originally sung by Mike and nobody can sing it as great as him but he was going to try and hoped everyone liked it. Forget to mention when he made the first Mike comment some people booed Mike  :lol. Anyway symphony orchestra was great on Pet Sounds they then did Vibes with the orchestra and left coming back for encore band only. Al sang second half of Funx3 which was nice. Overall amazing show can't wait for night 2 tomorrow! Hopefully they change the setlist a bit tomorrow but I doubt it's very likely.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on June 17, 2016, 08:25:17 PM
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on June 18, 2016, 10:28:17 AM
Truly was a hilarious moment. He mentioned Mike again during the Pet Sounds part of the show saying how That's Not Me Was originally sung by Mike and nobody can sing it as great as him



And I'm inclined to agree with Brian. The original recording has a very strong performance by Mike and as someone mentioned in the Mike&Bruce thread, he certainly would still sound great doing it nowadays in concert.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on June 19, 2016, 03:46:15 AM
Anyone here go to last night's show? I'm curious if they've finally been able to get back to their standard-length setlist.

Yep! I was there and can report back when I get home. Yes, it was a full setlist (more than 40 songs I think). Show was good - Brian's voice wasn't as good as last time I saw them (2015) and he needed help walking (he complained that his back was in pain). Al has a cold and his voice was raspy, but they did do Help me, Rhonda. Other interesting choices: Funky Pretty, Do it Again. 
I was really hoping for Funky Pretty at the Brooklyn show... not to be. Glad that you got it!



The setlist on Setlist FM says 40 songs...  fairly standard, but 'You're So Good To Me' made it for the first time in the tour (I think).  There was also both 'Wake The World' and 'Cottonfields,' indicating that Al must be feeling a bit better!


You are correct, I believe. "You're So Good To Me" was done sporadically in 2015, though not very often. They did it in San Francisco in September. That's one I actually wish they'd give to Al to sing; he sounded good singing that one with his "Family & Friends" band back in 1999/2000. I used to think it was probably outside his vocal range, but then all of a sudden in 2012 he started doing "Wouldn't It Be Nice" again and sounding shockingly good, so I think he could do it.

Also glad to see the setlist back to normal length, and that Al's stuff is being added back into the setlist.

I'm curious now if "Monster Mash" will survive through the entire tour!

I saw him sing WIBN twice in 2012, and yeah, he sounded awesome.  I think it's his song, and I'm still kinda surprised that they are having Matt do it.  Not that Matt isn't awesome, but Al really has the intonation down--he sounds more like the old Brian than anyone on that particular song. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on June 19, 2016, 05:45:54 AM
"Then he said don't ask why it's really complicated all you need to know is I'm Brian Wilson and he's the Beach Boys."

Pure gold, on so many levels.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on June 19, 2016, 07:25:26 AM
Same set last night with Symphony minus dance dance dance and do it again. Another great Brian quote about Mike before that's not me he mentioned Mike tours as the beach boys and he wanted to let everyone know that so nobody thought they were the only act in town. He followed that up by saying we (referring to he and his band) were not that good anyway and he didn't sing that's not me originally but he was gonna try his best anyway and hoped we liked it. The we're not that good comment got a "we are that good Brian much better in fact" or something along those lines from Al which was funny. The symphony also sounded much better and fused into the band then night one especially on the pet sounds tracks.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 19, 2016, 10:01:35 AM
Review of Brian's Friday June 17th Pet Sounds show with the Boston Pops, from the Boston Globe:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2016/06/18/brian-wilson-produces-stirring-sounds-with-boston-pops/Cf9Cxb6CyRBd7oj3tl6BaK/story.html (https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/music/2016/06/18/brian-wilson-produces-stirring-sounds-with-boston-pops/Cf9Cxb6CyRBd7oj3tl6BaK/story.html)

(https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2016/06/18/BostonGlobe.com/Arts/Images/Brian%20Wilson%20with%20the%20Boston%20Pops%20on%206.17.16%20(Winslow%20Townson)6.jpg)

Brian Wilson produces stirring ‘Sounds’ with Boston Pops
By Steve Smith Globe Staff  June 18, 2016

When you enter a Brian Wilson concert in 2016, you’d be well advised to leave his baggage at the door. The Beach Boys architect’s saga of youthful incandescence, precipitous decline, and unlikely recovery is amply documented, not least in the recent biopic “Love & Mercy.” That Wilson, who turns 74 Monday, is performing at all, let alone engaging in lengthy tours, is astonishing.

His current venture — in which he’s playing the milestone 1966 album “Pet Sounds” complete for the last time — has split opinion. “The saddest gig ever,” declared the banner over a 2-star Telegraph review of his May 15 show in Bristol, England. “A spectacularly moving evening,” the headline stated over a 5-star Guardian review of his May 24 show in Manchester.

Any sadness in the air when Wilson and his band joined the Boston Pops Friday night for the first of two long sold-out Symphony Hall shows — tickets remain available for a Tanglewood matinee on Sunday — was overshadowed by palpable elation among audience members, visibly moved by some of the greatest pop music ever crafted, and grateful to be in its creator’s presence.

After Joyce Linehan, Mayor Martin J. Walsh’s chief of policy, read a proclamation designating June 17, 2016, “Pet Sounds Day” in Boston, Wilson took the stage with a phalanx of guitarists, keyboardists, and utility players. Included were fellow Beach Boy Al Jardine, 73, and his son Matt Jardine, who handled soaring falsetto vocals flawlessly.

The show opened with classics in swift succession: “Heroes and Villains,” “California Girls,” “In My Room,” “Surfer Girl,” “Don’t Worry, Baby,” and more, all the old bells and whistles, sumptuous harmonies, and eerie Theremin wails accounted for. Joined by singer-guitarist Blondie Chaplin, a Beach Boy briefly in the early ’70s, Wilson drifted into the rougher tides of “Wild Honey” and “Sail On, Sailor.”

Absent gaze notwithstanding, Wilson was engaged and animated, singing with rough vigor and playing piano ably. He rambled gregariously; twice he led the audience in “Row, Row, Row Your Boat” singalongs. In essence and substance, he was fully present.

A well-rehearsed “Pet Sounds” followed a short break, trenchant in its evocations of love and discord. Was the buoyant hope of “Wouldn’t It Be Nice” ever more poignant, the chaste devotion of “God Only Knows” more affecting, the melancholy resignation of “I Just Wasn’t Made for These Times” more moving? Arguably, no.

Throughout, the orchestra’s contributions mostly fell prey to a muddy mix. You could see the players working diligently under the conductor Lucas Richman’s attentive leadership. Their exertions produced a roseate glow, seeping through thin cracks in dense arrangements, and little more.

Perhaps this was to be expected; amplified performances rarely take full flight in halls designed to showcase acoustic music. Wilson’s remarks indicated satisfaction with what he was hearing. But when the band returned, sans orchestra, for another string of hits in the encore — from “All Summer Long” to a stirring “Love and Mercy,” dedicated by Wilson to the people of Orlando — the music was as colorful and detailed as anything that preceded it, and noticeably clearer.

BRIAN WILSON WITH THE BOSTON POPS: ‘Pet Sounds’

At Symphony Hall, June 17 (repeats June 19 at Tanglewood)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 19, 2016, 10:12:25 AM
Some photos of Friday's concert from Arthur Pollock and posted by The Boston Herald:

(http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery/public/media/2016/06/17/061716wilsonap02.jpg?itok=8nhrB3eo)

(http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery/public/media/2016/06/18/061716wilsonap01.jpg?itok=FTfloxM3)

(http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery/public/media/2016/06/18/061716wilsonap03.jpg?itok=UKpRLtI7)

(http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery/public/media/2016/06/18/061716wilsonap04.jpg?itok=UQZtGV7k)

(http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery/public/media/2016/06/18/061716wilsonap05.jpg?itok=iOWyAPjV)

(http://www.bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/gallery/public/media/2016/06/18/061716wilsonap06.jpg?itok=-O-08wYi)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Gerry on June 19, 2016, 11:31:57 AM
Beautiful photos. Thank you.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 19, 2016, 04:47:44 PM
Here is a published review (already) of Brian's show at Tanglewood from this afternoon (June 19th), complete with setlist and a photo, courtesy of MassLive.com

http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/06/review_brian_wilson_with_al_ja.html (http://www.masslive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/06/review_brian_wilson_with_al_ja.html)

(http://image.masslive.com/home/mass-media/width620/img/entertainment/photo/20607717-mmmain.jpg)

By Ray Kelly | rkelly@repub.com
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on June 19, 2016 at 6:23 PM, updated June 19, 2016 at 6:33 PM

LENOX – Fifty years after the release of the Beach Boys' "Pet Sounds," songwriter Brian Wilson has taken to the road to celebrate the landmark album by playing it in its entirety for what he says will be the last time.

Accompanied by Beach Boys co-founder Al Jardine and the band's former guitarist Blondie Chaplin, Wilson and his amazing nine-piece backup band not only performed the 13-track album at Tanglewood on Sunday afternoon – but tossed in nearly 20 other fabulous songs for good measure.

"Pet Sounds" was the brainchild of Wilson, who produced and arranged the disc and wrote most of its songs. Considered by many critics to be the Beach Boys' finest achievement, "Pet Sounds," which was released in May 1966, went beyond the pop rock sound of the era and incorporated elements of jazz, classical and avant garde music.

But before tackling "Pet Sounds" at Tanglewood, Wilson began the show with more than a dozen other songs from his impressive catalog, beginning with 1967's "Heroes and Villains," which was hampered by sound problems.

With a better mix in place, the crowd-pleasing "California Girls" brought many on the lawn to their feet.

Other hits followed ranging from the plaintive "In My Room" to the joyous "I Get Around."

Through it all, the 73-yeatr-old Wilson, who has overcome drug abuse and battled mental illness, was animated and reveling in the music.

While Wilson was never the Beach Boys strongest singer, Jardine still has a remarkable set of pipes, as he demonstrated on tunes like "Wake the World." His son, Matt Jardine, handled lead vocals on one of the best songs of the night, "Don't Worry Baby."

Wilson launched into the "Pet Sounds" portion of the show with the stirring "Wouldn't It Be Nice" and reintroduced the crowd to such as album tracks as "God Only Knows" and "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times" before performing the album closer "Caroline, No."

Following the performance of the "Pet Sounds" album, Wilson and company returned for a seven-song encore beginning the No. 1 hit "Good Vibrations," whose recording began during the "Pet Sounds" session, though it was released as a standalone single in October 1966.

Wilson closed the show with "Love and Mercy," a track from hsi first solo album and title of a recent biopic.

SETLIST 6.19.2016

Heroes and Villains
California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
You're So Good to Me
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World
Add Some Music to Your Day
One Kind of Love
I Get Around
Wild Honey
Sail On, Sailor

Pet Sounds:
Wouldn't It Be Nice
You Still Believe in Me
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
I'm Waiting for the Day
Let's Go Away for Awhile
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
I Know There's an Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No

Encore:
Good Vibrations
All Summer Long
Help Me, Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' U.S.A.
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love and Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mayoman on June 19, 2016, 05:50:31 PM
Brian also did three little snippets of River Deep, Mountain High throughout the show. Sung by Mertens, Probyn, and little bit of Blondie. Probably about 30 seconds each time. Someone(Al?) asked what it was and Brian said a bit about Phil Spector.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on June 19, 2016, 06:27:26 PM
Wonderful pics, thanks for posting


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 20, 2016, 07:06:54 AM


By Ray Kelly

While Wilson was never the Beach Boys strongest singer, Jardine still has a remarkable set of pipes, as he demonstrated on tunes like "Wake the World." His son, Matt Jardine, handled lead vocals on one of the best songs of the night, "Don't Worry Baby."


I get why Brian's voice is jarring for reviewers these days, but Brian was "never the Beach Boys strongest singer?"  Has this guy listened to "Pet Sounds?" Nice review, but what a weird line.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 20, 2016, 07:09:31 AM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 20, 2016, 07:17:02 AM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.

The Boston Pops was not at Tanglewood, just the two Symphony Hall shows Fri and Sat.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 20, 2016, 07:19:34 AM


By Ray Kelly

While Wilson was never the Beach Boys strongest singer, Jardine still has a remarkable set of pipes, as he demonstrated on tunes like "Wake the World." His son, Matt Jardine, handled lead vocals on one of the best songs of the night, "Don't Worry Baby."


I get why Brian's voice is jarring for reviewers these days, but Brian was "never the Beach Boys strongest singer?"  Has this guy listened to "Pet Sounds?" Nice review, but what a weird line.

It really doesn't make sense! Maybe it was a typo, lol. That one comment definitely sticks out in the article like a sore thumb.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 20, 2016, 07:25:52 AM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.

The Boston Pops was not at Tanglewood, just the two Symphony Hall shows Fri and Sat.

Hopefully once they get back on the road at the end of the month, the setlist will get back to around 40 songs or so. It's a bit of a bummer to see a non-orchestra, non-festival show with no opening act only go to 34 songs as apparently was the case at Tanglewood.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on June 20, 2016, 07:30:55 AM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.

The Boston Pops was not at Tanglewood, just the two Symphony Hall shows Fri and Sat.

Hopefully once they get back on the road at the end of the month, the setlist will get back to around 40 songs or so. It's a bit of a bummer to see a non-orchestra, non-festival show with no opening act only go to 34 songs as apparently was the case at Tanglewood.

I was happy to see Add Some Music on the list! And it also appeared Brian had something up his sleeve with River Deep Mountain High, I wonder if that will be done up in a more full version at some point on this tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on June 20, 2016, 07:48:07 AM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.

The Boston Pops was not at Tanglewood, just the two Symphony Hall shows Fri and Sat.

Hopefully once they get back on the road at the end of the month, the setlist will get back to around 40 songs or so. It's a bit of a bummer to see a non-orchestra, non-festival show with no opening act only go to 34 songs as apparently was the case at Tanglewood.

I was happy to see Add Some Music on the list! And it also appeared Brian had something up his sleeve with River Deep Mountain High, I wonder if that will be done up in a more full version at some point on this tour.



Of course it seems that Brian's Rock&Roll album will never be finished (or even started?). But I wonder if he might be getting closer to plan it, especially now that he has Al and Blondie with him. He also played "Proud Mary" a couple of times on this tour. So maybe he's doing this stuff to try something out for a studio record.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on June 20, 2016, 09:28:29 AM
I was happy to see Add Some Music on the list!
+1  :)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on June 20, 2016, 10:19:21 AM
Add Some Music:
+2


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: srv1303 on June 20, 2016, 10:29:27 AM
I apologize if this has been answered somewhere already but here goes...

I have soundcheck tickets to the Vegas show in 2 weeks. Are there any instructions for what time that starts and where to pick up the tickets?

Also anyone down to meet up at the Hard Rock before the show?

Thank you!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on June 20, 2016, 10:42:45 AM
Is the "grand" white piano finally gone? Hope so. The black one in the photos looks smaller and will make it easier for audience members to see Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on June 21, 2016, 09:43:27 PM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.

The Boston Pops was not at Tanglewood, just the two Symphony Hall shows Fri and Sat.

Hopefully once they get back on the road at the end of the month, the setlist will get back to around 40 songs or so. It's a bit of a bummer to see a non-orchestra, non-festival show with no opening act only go to 34 songs as apparently was the case at Tanglewood.

Yeah, what's up with that? 

For whatever reason, Setlist FM does say that Tanglewood was an orchestra show, but many that was just a careless typo. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mayoman on June 21, 2016, 10:14:53 PM
No orchestra at Tanglewood, I was there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 22, 2016, 06:04:49 AM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.

The Boston Pops was not at Tanglewood, just the two Symphony Hall shows Fri and Sat.

Hopefully once they get back on the road at the end of the month, the setlist will get back to around 40 songs or so. It's a bit of a bummer to see a non-orchestra, non-festival show with no opening act only go to 34 songs as apparently was the case at Tanglewood.

Yeah, what's up with that? 

For whatever reason, Setlist FM does say that Tanglewood was an orchestra show, but many that was just a careless typo. 

The setlist.fm website allows one to copy and paste entire setlists, which is indeed often convenient when the setlist doesn't change much from show to show. There seems to be one or two people in particular on that site that feel the need to jump on and be the first person to update setlists, and it's no coincidence that they seem to be the one(s) who occasionally don't pay close enough attention to whatever they're copying and pasting to account for the changes between shows. This is especially true for little addendums and notations like the mention of a Brian show featuring an orchestra.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on June 23, 2016, 08:10:31 AM
I'm still a bit confused; were the Boston Pops at the Tanglewood show? The setlist.fm entry says so, and the similar setlist suggests it. But the review above of the Tanglewood show doesn't mention the presence of an orchestra, which would be a pretty significant omission for a show review.

The Boston Pops was not at Tanglewood, just the two Symphony Hall shows Fri and Sat.

Hopefully once they get back on the road at the end of the month, the setlist will get back to around 40 songs or so. It's a bit of a bummer to see a non-orchestra, non-festival show with no opening act only go to 34 songs as apparently was the case at Tanglewood.

Yeah, what's up with that? 

For whatever reason, Setlist FM does say that Tanglewood was an orchestra show, but many that was just a careless typo. 

The setlist.fm website allows one to copy and paste entire setlists, which is indeed often convenient when the setlist doesn't change much from show to show. There seems to be one or two people in particular on that site that feel the need to jump on and be the first person to update setlists, and it's no coincidence that they seem to be the one(s) who occasionally don't pay close enough attention to whatever they're copying and pasting to account for the changes between shows. This is especially true for little addendums and notations like the mention of a Brian show featuring an orchestra.
Hey Jude - they "copy and paste" alright, make a minor modification, such as a cover song artist name substitution, and then attribute it to themselves.   


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 23, 2016, 09:31:57 AM
I should say that there's nothing wrong with copying and pasting on that setlist.fm website; it certainly makes things much more expedient than manually entering in identical data. But two things people have to look out for are the accuracy of the data they're copying, and to pay attention to any changes that need to be made to the pasted version. Typically, it's just a song or two swapping out, or sometimes no changes at all.

Then there are a whole bunch of weird issues of semantics on that website; like titling the first set in Brian's show a "Greatest Hits" set, which I think is wrong (just call it "first set"), and the convention of tying song entries to a sort of "master song" listing (which makes sense in terms of sorting the data, but it still bugs me to see "Then He Kissed Me" listed on Brian and BB setlists; how many of the lyrics need to be changed before the new song title is appropriate?).

As others have mentioned, the bigger problem on the setlist.fm website is the *old* setlists that people post. Sometimes they're using boot recordings with incorrect venues and/or dates, sometimes they make assumptions about the shows (e.g. Brian shows mentioning Al being in attendance when he wasn't). I've seen solo Beach Boys shows listed as "Beach Boys" shows, "ELO Part II" shows listed as ELO, and so on. I've had to correct Ringo Starr setlists from shows I attended, etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: jiggy22 on June 23, 2016, 01:33:38 PM
I was fortunate enough to receive 2 VIP tickets for the Tanglewood show for my High School Graduation gift. My girlfriend came up from upper NY to go see it with me. The soundcheck rehearsal was truly amazing to watch. First, the group rehearsed the "River Deep Mountain High" segment performed three times throughout the concert. It was great to see Brian directing everyone on what to do, nice to see he's still in charge of the music. Then they played through "You're So Good to Me" twice before Blondie came in and they worked on "Funky Pretty". They didn't perform FP during the concert, so it was still cool that I was able to hear them perform my favorite Holland song live. After that came the Meet & Greet section. I wasn't the biggest fan of how systematic the whole thing was: You give the guy your stuff, they hand it over to Brian & Co to sign, and then you stand behind them and get your picture taken. It didn't allow for the opportunity to say that much to any of them. While standing behind Brian, I said hello, but I don't think he heard me. Must've spoken in the bad ear! I'm still kicking myself for deciding not to bring my Smile Sessions record to have signed, but it's still nice to have the signed poster and music sheet. After that came a break before the main concert began. My girlfriend and I had third row seats, that was truly amazing! Reviews of the concert have said that the first performance of "Heroes and Villains" was plagued by sound system problems, but because we were seated so close to the stage, I couldn't notice any of that. After the first set, there was a 15 minute break before the performance of Pet Sounds began. Definitely one of the big highlights of the concert, of course! Brian seemed to be a little out of it that day, he stopped singing half-way through the ending of "God Only Knows", and seemed to have forgotten some lyrics to the beginning of "Here Today". Aside from those minor flubs, it was such an a amazing performance, it was great to see everyone give Brian standing ovations and dance in the aisles. Although it was unfortunate that the Boston Symphony didn't show up, the overall quality of the show was enough to brush that aside. For the final performance of "Love and Mercy", Brian changed one of the lines to "A lot of people getting shot, and it really scares me". A somber reference to the recent tragedy in Orlando. After the show, Al was sticking around signing autographs and talking to a few people, I was able to walk up and shake his hand. I think he was a little preoccupied with what someone else was saying to him, but nevertheless, that was a big highlight for me. Overall, a fantastic day, perhaps one of the greatest weekends of my life so far!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: B.E. on June 23, 2016, 02:06:14 PM
For the final performance of "Love and Mercy", Brian changed one of the lines to "A lot of people getting shot, and it really scares me". A somber reference to the recent tragedy in Orlando.


Woah, that must have been surprising! Thanks for the review.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on June 23, 2016, 05:45:42 PM
I was fortunate enough to receive 2 VIP tickets for the Tanglewood show for my High School Graduation gift. My girlfriend came up from upper NY to go see it with me. The soundcheck rehearsal was truly amazing to watch. First, the group rehearsed the "River Deep Mountain High" segment performed three times throughout the concert. It was great to see Brian directing everyone on what to do, nice to see he's still in charge of the music. Then they played through "You're So Good to Me" twice before Blondie came in and they worked on "Funky Pretty". They didn't perform FP during the concert, so it was still cool that I was able to hear them perform my favorite Holland song live. After that came the Meet & Greet section. I wasn't the biggest fan of how systematic the whole thing was: You give the guy your stuff, they hand it over to Brian & Co to sign, and then you stand behind them and get your picture taken. It didn't allow for the opportunity to say that much to any of them. While standing behind Brian, I said hello, but I don't think he heard me. Must've spoken in the bad ear! I'm still kicking myself for deciding not to bring my Smile Sessions record to have signed, but it's still nice to have the signed poster and music sheet. After that came a break before the main concert began. My girlfriend and I had third row seats, that was truly amazing! Reviews of the concert have said that the first performance of "Heroes and Villains" was plagued by sound system problems, but because we were seated so close to the stage, I couldn't notice any of that. After the first set, there was a 15 minute break before the performance of Pet Sounds began. Definitely one of the big highlights of the concert, of course! Brian seemed to be a little out of it that day, he stopped singing half-way through the ending of "God Only Knows", and seemed to have forgotten some lyrics to the beginning of "Here Today". Aside from those minor flubs, it was such an a amazing performance, it was great to see everyone give Brian standing ovations and dance in the aisles. Although it was unfortunate that the Boston Symphony didn't show up, the overall quality of the show was enough to brush that aside. For the final performance of "Love and Mercy", Brian changed one of the lines to "A lot of people getting shot, and it really scares me". A somber reference to the recent tragedy in Orlando. After the show, Al was sticking around signing autographs and talking to a few people, I was able to walk up and shake his hand. I think he was a little preoccupied with what someone else was saying to him, but nevertheless, that was a big highlight for me. Overall, a fantastic day, perhaps one of the greatest weekends of my life so far!


What a great HS graduation gift.  Glad you enjoyed the sound check and the show.  I understand your feelings re: the M&G, but have no idea how it could be handled better to be fair to everyone.  If you have some good ideas, I'll bet Brian's people would enjoy hearing them. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: jiggy22 on June 23, 2016, 06:06:50 PM
What a great HS graduation gift.  Glad you enjoyed the sound check and the show.  I understand your feelings re: the M&G, but have no idea how it could be handled better to be fair to everyone.  If you have some good ideas, I'll bet Brian's people would enjoy hearing them. 

Oh I totally understand the need for the system, everything had to be within a certain time frame, everyone needed time to get ready, etc. Hell, that was probably the best part of the day! Even though I would've preferred the opportunity to walk up and personally give my stuff to Brian & Co, I still appreciate and thank the staff for the huge amount of effort that went into the entire day. I'm planning on majoring in music production in college, and I'd just like to thank Brian a whole lot for inspiring me to make that decision!

I think I forgot to mention that I got third row seats for the concert, that was so cool!

It was actually kinda funny. While waiting on line for the M&G, the big green backdrop began to fall because of the wind or whatever. The backdrop hit Blondie on the back of the head, and while everyone was panicking and freaking out, he kinda just looked around in confusion like nothing had even happened!  :lol Thankfully that was the worst thing that happened that day!

My girlfriend and I with the big three:

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13495193_1236215553103725_952353951556387712_n.jpg?oh=24bf1bef7ead1c1800b2cb86e6c1d956&oe=57F4034D)

My new favorite picture of Al:

(http://i1351.photobucket.com/albums/p783/guitarking3434/IMG_4154_zpslqn2qvfc.png)[/URL]


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on June 24, 2016, 06:08:22 PM
Theme buffett to go with St Louis show.  ;D

http://www.riverfronttimes.com/musicblog/2016/06/24/family-arena-to-serve-up-hilarious-buffet-of-beach-boy-puns-for-brian-wilsons-pet-sounds-tour


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on June 29, 2016, 03:48:32 PM
Just saw this on Brian's Facebook page.  Would love to have a copy of this to hang on my wall!

(https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13524449_10154302421062241_7533223530273462289_n.jpg?oh=93866510b9c81fa935d5a1500efff987&oe=57F966D5)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on June 29, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
Wow- very cool...wish they did more like this.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on June 30, 2016, 11:49:15 AM
It would definitely be cool to see more posters for individual gigs, or even something for specific legs of the tour, or even just something that lists tour dates/cities/venues, etc.

The 2013 and 2016 tours just have a rather generic poster, while 2015 had none at all. Nothing like the cool Mark London posters for the 06/07 PS tours, or whomever did the 2007 "Endless Summer" inspired posters. Those were nice, hand-pulled style prints.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 01, 2016, 03:10:04 PM
Looks like the San Diego County Fair gig had a shortened setlist. No "Barbara Ann!"

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/del-mar-fairgrounds-del-mar-ca-73ff9a79.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on July 02, 2016, 05:25:39 PM
Has anyone found any clips of footage of "river deep, mountain high"?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on July 02, 2016, 10:56:04 PM
Looks like 'California Saga: California' has been added to the last couple of shows. That's a great one...  I realize that the setlist for the Osaka show that I saw was better than most, but it still would have been awesome to hear Al sing that! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on July 03, 2016, 06:17:19 PM
I'm excited to hear reports from the Hollywood bowl show, should be special .


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 03, 2016, 08:56:07 PM
I just got back from the Ottawa show.  It was the shorter "festival set".  Brian's voice was better than it was when I saw them in Vermont two weeks ago, but it looks like he's having real trouble walking - he was helped onstage and didn't look too steady.  Al's voice was great.  Here's the setlist to the best of my memory.   I'm not totally sure about the order of the first set but I'm pretty sure of the songs.   

Our Prayer
H and V
River Deep Mountain High (one verse, with Blondie)
California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
You're So Good to Me
Surfer Girl
Don't worry Baby
I Get Around
California Saga
Wild Honey
Sail on Sailor
_
Pet Sounds
Good Vibrations
_
All Summer Long
Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun fun Fun
Love and Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mitchell on July 04, 2016, 05:44:09 AM
That seems about right from what I recall. Al forgot the words to California Saga, which was awesome to hear, regardless. Wild Honey blew people away.

I was very happy to see that this show was a "triumph" in a sense, since his previous two Ottawa shows were a horrid festival appearance marred by technical difficulties and a great Gershwin show played to about 500 people in a 2500 seat concert hall (and I maintain that his Gershwin live performance was the best vocally I've ever seen him do). Brian himself wasn't the star per se but he seemed in good spirits and I noticed that he seemed to genuinely like what he was hearing from his band when he wasn't 'engaged'.

Al and Paul did a great job keeping the energy going (while not to my taste, the  extended flute and sax solos got the requisite cheers), Matt won people over with his DWB, and Blondie stole the show with his great vocals and wandering solos (and his sporadic appearances). It made for a really enjoyable concert, even without the Pet Sounds performance. I wish that the crowd had gotten into it a bit more. They were coaxed out of their seats to dance during Good Vibrations and then the encore was the usual party.

Al's fretting hand seemed to be bothering him but he nailed his vocals, especially during Pet Sounds. That extra level of authenticity made it that much better. I'm really glad he's on the tour and that I got to see him with Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 04, 2016, 06:07:15 AM
Yes, that Gershwin show at the NAC was great, and it was painful that it was so empty. That was the first time I saw Brian live and we were stunned by how good the band was.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: coco1997 on July 04, 2016, 06:28:21 AM
Hopefully "River Deep Mountain High" appears on the fabled rock 'n roll album.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: srv1303 on July 04, 2016, 12:30:12 PM
I went to the Las Vegas show and Soundcheck, and it was amazing! Met some great people too.

The highlight though was getting in the elevator at my hotel to head to the show, and when i got to the lobby, there was Matt Jardine rushing to get into the limo to the show!! I may have freaked out a little bit and he gave me a hug.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rich Panteluk on July 04, 2016, 02:37:15 PM
If anyone has, or knows of, great seats (I need 3 tickets total) for sale to the hollywood bowl show, I am looking to upgrade.  I currently have 3 seats in Section N2, row 11 but I would like something closer (terrace or garden boxes preferred).  I am going to sell my 3 seats in section N2.  PM or e-mail me if interested in my seats or if you have seats to sell.  Thanks.  Looking forward to seeing Brian and his wonderful band soon!

richp20@hotmail.com


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Juice Brohnston on July 04, 2016, 04:18:36 PM
That seems about right from what I recall. Al forgot the words to California Saga, which was awesome to hear, regardless. Wild Honey blew people away.

I was very happy to see that this show was a "triumph" in a sense, since his previous two Ottawa shows were a horrid festival appearance marred by technical difficulties and a great Gershwin show played to about 500 people in a 2500 seat concert hall (and I maintain that his Gershwin live performance was the best vocally I've ever seen him do). Brian himself wasn't the star per se but he seemed in good spirits and I noticed that he seemed to genuinely like what he was hearing from his band when he wasn't 'engaged'.

Al and Paul did a great job keeping the energy going (while not to my taste, the  extended flute and sax solos got the requisite cheers), Matt won people over with his DWB, and Blondie stole the show with his great vocals and wandering solos (and his sporadic appearances). It made for a really enjoyable concert, even without the Pet Sounds performance. I wish that the crowd had gotten into it a bit more. They were coaxed out of their seats to dance during Good Vibrations and then the encore was the usual party.

Al's fretting hand seemed to be bothering him but he nailed his vocals, especially during Pet Sounds. That extra level of authenticity made it that much better. I'm really glad he's on the tour and that I got to see him with Brian.
Nice to see some OTown representation on the board. True,  the Bluesfest show a few years back was a low point, not Brian's fault on the technical glitches. Lol I remember Jeff throwing the promoters under the bus on that one.

Great weather last night. I saw the 'original' Pet Sounds Tour in Toronto, and Al and Blondie definitely added a deeper dimension.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Alex on July 04, 2016, 04:28:29 PM
Getting pumped for the Burlington show on Wednesday!!! WHOOO!!!!

:pirate :pirate :pirate :pirate :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :rock :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :woot :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :ohyeah :ohyeah :ohyeah :ohyeah :ohyeah :ohyeah :ohyeah :banana :banana :banana :banana :banana :banana :brian :brian :brian :brian :brian :brian :drum :drum :drum :drum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ninten on July 04, 2016, 09:16:05 PM
I was at the Toronto show. Pretty great, as usual. I was excited for Funky Pretty, but I actually didn't really care for their live rendition that much. Highlights were One Kind Of Love (I absolutely love this song, and as a bonus Brian remembered all the lyrics this time!--last year he forgot how the verse went), Let's Go Away For A While, Here Today, Pet Sounds, and Good Vibrations. Brian's singing was hit and miss as usual. I also love that they played the sound effects at the end of Caroline No. And Matt Jardine totally stole the show. He does Brian's parts way better than Foskett ever did.

Also, I'm not sure if this has been asked already in this massive thread, but does someone have a list of all of the little song snippets they used when introducing the band members? I recall Smoke On The Water, Carry On My Wayward Son, and Day Tripper. What were the other ones?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 04, 2016, 09:38:49 PM
They played Start Me Up for Blondie. It's not unusual for Billy Hinsche, tonight they played Walk on the Wild Side for Nicky Walusko but I think it was something else for him last night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 04, 2016, 09:40:02 PM
Ninten - it wasn't Day Tripper, it was Bulldog. They played it when introducing Paul von Mertens.  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mayoman on July 04, 2016, 10:35:04 PM
It was Brown Sugar for Blondie a few shows ago.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ninten on July 04, 2016, 11:01:36 PM
marcella27 -- Oh, you're right, it was. And that's one of my favourite Beatles songs. How embarrassing. >.>


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 05, 2016, 07:06:39 AM
Thanks everyone for the reports/reviews.

Interesting to see that Billy Hinsche is still filling in for Darian. I wonder how long that will continue. No complaints; Billy's the perfect guy to fill in.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 05, 2016, 08:21:14 AM
marcella27 -- Oh, you're right, it was. And that's one of my favourite Beatles songs. How embarrassing. >.>


Well, it was only about five seconds of the song, so I think you can be forgiven! 


I think they also did Ballroom Blitz for Nelson Bragg.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on July 06, 2016, 10:06:21 AM
A few people turned out for the Massey Hall show

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmkWLG0XEAET8Yo.jpg:large)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mitchell on July 06, 2016, 12:41:59 PM
One was the Standells' Dirty Water. For Nelson Bragg, I think?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on July 06, 2016, 09:24:36 PM
Review from last month's show in Burlington, Vermont (it didn't appear until two weeks later). Brian returned and played the same venue tonight as well. AFAIK, his first two shows ever in Vermont.

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/entertainment/2016/06/30/brian-wilson-curates-beach-boys-songs-burlington/85825472/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 08, 2016, 01:39:00 AM
I have been fortunate (or crazy, depending on who you're talking to) enough to have seen four concerts in the past month. Tonight I saw the band in Montreal and while one might think that the thrill would wear off after that many shows, it was quite the opposite. I was completely stunned, again, by this band, and by seeing Brian and Al together, sounding so amazing. 

The only bad thing was that it was a shorter set, with no intermission. This was kind of odd because even though the show was pa‎rt of the jazz festival, it was a separate ticketed event.  The car songs were absent, as was In My Room and Funky Pretty. 

They added a new song to the show - Hushabye. The sound in the auditorium (Place des Arts) was spectacular - everything was clear and beautiful. As trivial as it sounds, the lighting was gorgeous - during I Know There's an Answer the stage was bathed in this shimmering, wave-y light. The entire show sounded and looked stunning. The audience was on its feet more often than not. 

Brian's voice was a little off on a couple of occasions and at others it sounded very strong. ‎ He sounded absolutely great on Love and Mercy - strong and confident. 

It was Blondie's birthday and the band and the audience sang happy birthday to him. As usual, he was outstanding. I wish he had a few more songs to sing lead on - I still don't quite understand why he's not onstage more. (Oh, and in an earlier post I said that the song play when they introduce him was Start Me Up - ‎I was wrong, it is Brown Sugar after all.) 

When Brian introduced That's Not Me he said "this is a song that my cousin Mike sang, but he's not here tonight so I'll do it". I found that touching, funny and a little sad.

And Al - where to start? It has been really clear to me that Al is playing a huge role in the success of this tour. ‎He sings lead on a lot of songs, and he does it seemingly effortlessly.   There are times when others are singing, and it sounds really good, and then Al will come in and it goes from good to great. Or maybe it's that it goes from "great" to "Beach Boys".  He is gracious with the audience, his bandmates, and the fans.‎  And there is something very special about seeing him next to Brian, watching them interact - seeing Al laugh at the Brianisms, and seeing Brian watch Al when he's singing.  

All in all, a spectacular night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 08, 2016, 06:18:42 AM
Thanks for the detailed reviews. Interesting to see "Hushabye" in the setlist. That's one of those songs that it's hard to characterize as a "deep cut" or not. The BBs were doing it in the 90s with Matt singing, but it was certainly only a sporadic setlist inclusion.

Has Brian ever done it live? Setlist.fm suggests no. I thought he might have done it during some of those acoustic opening sets in the 2004-2007 era, but apparently not?

The site also suggests Mike hasn't done the song since 2002.

Obviously, that site is incomplete and there's also the factor that it's a cover version and if someone listed the song without cross referencing it as a "Mystics" cover, then it wouldn't show up when searching for it under that listing.

Also, does anyone have a setlist for the July 6th Burlington, VT show?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rich Panteluk on July 08, 2016, 07:17:01 AM
I've got 2 sets of 3 tickets each to the Hollywood Bowl show on Sunday if anyone still needs tickets.  No scalping just face value.  3 tickets seated together in Section N2 Row 11, and 3 tickets seated together in Section K1 row 5.  I am going to the show and can meet there and do an exchange if anyone is interested PM me or better yet e-mail me at :
richp20@hotmail.com
Thanks,
Rich
Can't wait to see Brian and his wonderful band again!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ontor pertawst on July 10, 2016, 07:10:37 PM
At the Bowl now and a man just passed who was the spitting image of Mike Love. An omen? A warning?

Who cares.... Pet Sounds!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 10, 2016, 07:24:26 PM
Several posters on the boards have said Brian's back seems to be bad. He's confirmed it.....

After bringing “Pet Sounds” to a close with a gorgeous performance of “Caroline, No,” the band returned to treat the fans to one more set of greatest hits. "I threw my back out the other day," Wilson announced. "I can hardly walk. Now we're gonna do the encore." A spirited “All Summer Long" gave way to “Help Me, Rhonda,” “Barbara Ann,” “Surfin’ U.S.A.” and “Fun, Fun, Fun."

http://www.azcentral.com/story/entertainment/music/2016/07/10/brian-wilson-review-pet-sounds-phoenix/86919536/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on July 10, 2016, 10:50:26 PM
"Wake The World" was played Saturday night, July 9, in Phoenix. My memory is pretty lousy, but with a search I couldn't find any mention of it played previously by any of the groups. Certainly a deep cut, and possibly quite a rarity, in terms of live performances.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on July 10, 2016, 11:13:37 PM
"Wake The World" was played Saturday night, July 9, in Phoenix. My memory is pretty lousy, but with a search I couldn't find any mention of it played previously by any of the groups. Certainly a deep cut, and possibly quite a rarity, in terms of live performances.


Yep, that's being played pretty regularly since 2015




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heywood on July 11, 2016, 12:47:04 AM
https://youtu.be/MiAWruWefQI

DWB

Theres a few on youtube already

https://youtu.be/6xwhV8irnwo


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rob Dean on July 11, 2016, 12:59:07 AM
"Wake The World" was played Saturday night, July 9, in Phoenix. My memory is pretty lousy, but with a search I couldn't find any mention of it played previously by any of the groups. Certainly a deep cut, and possibly quite a rarity, in terms of live performances.

The Beach Boys 'Live In London' album


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Heywood on July 11, 2016, 01:10:16 AM
https://youtu.be/-lL20Em6Id4

Hushabye from 1994. Off topic but jeez he's good!

Back on topic
WIBN
https://youtu.be/D_akC3GDGo0

SOS
https://youtu.be/bQN6Opn9cSI


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on July 11, 2016, 05:31:08 AM
Looks like Darian joined the band for at least some of the show last night (I see Billy walking off while Darian walks on stage during Brian's intro of WIBN):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CshxSEVJL-w

Still on stage for God Only Knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJLJSYK17k


Maybe Darian sat in for Pet Sounds?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 11, 2016, 06:51:44 AM
"Wake The World" was played Saturday night, July 9, in Phoenix. My memory is pretty lousy, but with a search I couldn't find any mention of it played previously by any of the groups. Certainly a deep cut, and possibly quite a rarity, in terms of live performances.


Yep, that's being played pretty regularly since 2015




On the No Pier Pressure tour, it was played as a medley with "Busy Doin' Nothin'".


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: JakeH on July 11, 2016, 07:02:08 AM
Looks like Darian joined the band for at least some of the show last night (I see Billy walking off while Darian walks on stage during Brian's intro of WIBN):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CshxSEVJL-w

Still on stage for God Only Knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJLJSYK17k


Maybe Darian sat in for Pet Sounds?
He slipped quietly out on to the stage to replace Billy as Brian was introducing the Pet Sounds portion of the show; there was a little burst of applause from the audience at that point; If I remember, they went into "Good Vibrations" after the stage went black after "Caroline No" and then all the keyboardists were up on stage for the encore set.  Incredible, triumphant show, by the way. The place was packed like Ive never seen it before.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 11, 2016, 09:41:04 AM
Thanks again to everyone who is reporting back on shows, and/or sharing links. Hoping they keep the setlist up the 38-40 length as much as possible.

I've added setlist links for the most recent shows to the first post in the thread. Note that the person(s) posting the setlist for last night's Hollywood Bowl show seem to be confused or are only sporadically updating it. The definite downside to that site is that someone can just post a half-remembered partial setlist of a show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: southbay on July 11, 2016, 09:48:00 AM
Looks like Darian joined the band for at least some of the show last night (I see Billy walking off while Darian walks on stage during Brian's intro of WIBN):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CshxSEVJL-w

Still on stage for God Only Knows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBJLJSYK17k


Maybe Darian sat in for Pet Sounds?
He slipped quietly out on to the stage to replace Billy as Brian was introducing the Pet Sounds portion of the show; there was a little burst of applause from the audience at that point; If I remember, they went into "Good Vibrations" after the stage went black after "Caroline No" and then all the keyboardists were up on stage for the encore set.  Incredible, triumphant show, by the way. The place was packed like Ive never seen it before.

It was packed indeed, but the same as it was for the C50-sold out for both. BTW, I had the purely random chance to sit next to Jerry Schilling last night, what a very nice guy. In terms of the show itself, obviously great.  Al and Matt were tremendous. Darian indeed replaced Billy during the PS set. Brian was having trouble walking and needed assistance getting on/off the stage much as he did from Mike on the Fallon show in 2012. Honestly, I have to say that Brian has lost a step vocally since last I saw him in 2012 (when I thought he was TREMENDOUS, for Brian).  He turned many of his vocals into speaking parts and has turned many of the vocals he handled previously over to Matt.  This is not a complaint, after all Brian is 74 and those have been 74 hard years. As I watched the encore, I really realized this may be the last time I would be seeing them onstage (of course, I've been saying that for 20 years now).  It was an emotional, great night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 11, 2016, 11:45:47 AM
I'm reading that M. Ward opened for Brian last night at the Hollywood Bowl, which might explain why Brian and the band may have done a shorter set.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 11, 2016, 02:50:31 PM
According to this clip Tony Asher was also there last night. Is that him (I presume with Brian's kids) stage left? Did he get a shout-out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYLi8MyTF54


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: southbay on July 11, 2016, 04:50:41 PM
According to this clip Tony Asher was also there last night. Is that him (I presume with Brian's kids) stage left? Did he get a shout-out?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYLi8MyTF54

yes and yes.  He was introduced and came out during the encore.  The man plays tambourine like he works for an ad agency or something.  BTW, I happened to walk past Tony Asher at the Bowl during the C50 and he couldn't have been nicer or more gracious. I said "thank you for the lyrics".  His response was a very sincere, "No. Thank you."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: southbay on July 11, 2016, 04:54:30 PM
I'm reading that M. Ward opened for Brian last night at the Hollywood Bowl, which might explain why Brian and the band may have done a shorter set.

True, Zooey also came out so it was a mini She and Him for a little bit which was ok, but I didn't pay to see She and Him (and last night's set list is accurate).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on July 11, 2016, 05:43:36 PM
Hell of a crowd at the bowl show, amazing.

The vids are brilliant but also check out video from the celebrity theatre show in Phoenix, that was a party.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on July 11, 2016, 06:17:27 PM
I'm reading that M. Ward opened for Brian last night at the Hollywood Bowl, which might explain why Brian and the band may have done a shorter set.

True, Zooey also came out so it was a mini She and Him for a little bit which was ok, but I didn't pay to see She and Him (and last night's set list is accurate).

I'm surprised there was no "On the Island" or any kind of joint performance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on July 11, 2016, 10:53:19 PM
check out video from the celebrity theatre show in Phoenix, that was a party.

A very apt description. 1800 people, all within 25 yards of the stage. The crowd was into it from the start, and the band members seemed to pick up on that & had a great time themselves. Specifically, I've never seen Al as animated as he was all night. Great energy; you can see it in any of the "HMR" videos on YouTube.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ontor pertawst on July 12, 2016, 07:44:20 AM
Really terrific show at the Bowl! It was satisfying seeing Darian AND Billy Hinsche in the band at the end. When I saw Hinsche in the audience of BrianFest, I blurted out "you should be on stage!" He laughed politely, but it was great seeing him back on stage with the guy he opened for at the Bowl with decades ago... To a sold-out house. That has to be a tad satisfying.  

Seeing it completely full of people with stupid smiles was a delight. As was the shrimp pasta and beverages. Sure, I could have gone for another hour long set and more pasta, and maybe M. needed a lozenge but who am I to be critical?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: petsoundsnola on July 12, 2016, 07:49:50 AM
Who's the girl singing and dancing with Blondie?  Is that Wendy?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 12, 2016, 07:53:10 AM
Who's the girl singing and dancing with Blondie?  Is that Wendy?

I'm not sure. She kinda looks like Wendy, and Carnie *is* there, but the person in question is kind of moving and dancing in a way that doesn't look like Wendy to me.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on July 12, 2016, 08:15:29 AM
So is Darian only going to play select shows and do the PS portion for this tour?  I have tickets for the July 23 show and hope he is there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on July 12, 2016, 08:19:05 AM
Great review Ontor!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 12, 2016, 08:41:26 AM
Who's the girl singing and dancing with Blondie?  Is that Wendy?

I'm not sure. She kinda looks like Wendy, and Carnie *is* there, but the person in question is kind of moving and dancing in a way that doesn't look like Wendy to me.

I agree - I don't think that's Wendy. She looks too self-conscious.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on July 12, 2016, 08:57:00 AM
Definitely NOT Wendy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 12, 2016, 09:27:22 AM
So is Darian only going to play select shows and do the PS portion for this tour?  I have tickets for the July 23 show and hope he is there.

It appears that the original plan may have been for Billy to fill in for Darian from May 15 to June 20th (basically the UK/Europe leg and then the first few US dates after that), which is what he announced on his Facebook page. But starting up again on June 30th, Billy has continued. I would guess Darian is simply still busy doing whatever he's doing (some folks have said some Disney soundtrack work), and he might join up at some point.

I think he may have just popped in at the Hollywood Bowl because he perhaps lives in the area?

Based on how it has been going, I'd guess you'll probably get Billy on July 23rd. I'd guess the next most likely spot Darian might re-join could be when the tour picks up again in mid-August.

But Billy is a cool guy and a good guy to have in the band. He's apparently using Darian's keyboard pre-sets and all of that, and it's cool seeing several old BB touring band (and Al's Family & Friends) guys in the band.

If you're seeing the band on July 23rd, I'd be more bummed about it apparently being the one show on the tour that Al is going to miss.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wbarnes4393 on July 12, 2016, 10:06:27 AM
Bummer - I will be at show on July 23, too.  Hadn't heard that Al will not be at that one??


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Eric Aniversario on July 12, 2016, 10:39:29 AM
I'm reading that M. Ward opened for Brian last night at the Hollywood Bowl, which might explain why Brian and the band may have done a shorter set.

I've never really understood the appeal of having an opening act. I enjoyed the show, but would have enjoyed it more had it featured Wake The World, Funky Pretty, etc rather than an opening act. 99.9% off the audience is there for the main performer, and anyone that takes away from that time...well it just doesn't make sense. I used to cringe whenever this one comedian would open for Mike & Bruce in the early 2000s. He wasn't funny, and I knew to expect a shorter set.

The only time I've seen people there more for the opening act, it was when Foster the People opened at a C50 show, and even then, it was probably 5-10% of the audience.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 12, 2016, 01:14:42 PM
I don't think I'd mind an opening act nearly as much if it didn't cut down on the main act's show. And also, it's extra frustrating for hardcore fans because it's several more obscure/deep cuts that get axed first. They never drop "Barbara Ann." (Actually, I think one recent festival show did drop "Barbara Ann"; on a few occasions over the years Brian has actually skipped it.)

It's just weird to charge a premium price, and especially at arguably Brian's highest-profile gig on the tour, and do a shorter show.

Sometimes there are local sound ordinance issues at play (though, even then, just start the opening act earlier!).

I think the main deal on this tour is "Pet Sounds", and everything else is pretty malleable. As I've often said, I wish they'd give Al and Blondie (and Matt, maybe even other guys) a solo spot or two to lengthen the show without taxing Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on July 13, 2016, 02:16:29 AM
"Love and Mercy", July 9, Phoenix.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0prqRQ_oMg


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on July 13, 2016, 02:29:11 AM
Blondie at the Celebrity Theatre, Phoenix, July 9.

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2igf37s.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 13, 2016, 06:08:33 AM
I don't know what it is like over the rest of the world, but in Australia it gives me the shits.  e.g
say a show starts at 9pm, there is a support act on before the name artist.  about a 1/5 of the audience
is there ready to embrace the show while the rest of the people walk in, walk out, find their seats, stand up
in front of the people who are enjoying the support act, play with their phones, go back out and get food drink etc,
talking, giving the support act and the people interested a hard time by just not 'giving a f^ck!' attitude. 

Now what is funny and STILL gives me the shits, if when a major act comes on and there is not support artist, and
these dumb ass people stroll in, crack the sads that they have missed the start of the show, while they are 20 - 30
minutes late as to what they were told what was the start time on the ticket, and all of a sudden it's the 'artists fault'!!???
huh wah?????
Concert goer's have really lost the respect of what a concert is, and have become too arrogant and selfish.
As a concert goer recently to Brian's show, it sh*t me that about a 1/4 of the people were still walking in on
the opening song 'our prayer' and talking, finding their seats, and upsetting everyone else around them that were
hanging onto their seats for Brian's gig.  What is the matter with people.
And! while I'm at it, it shits me to see people playing with their phones at a concert! 
going to the cinema these days is exactly the same! Why do people bother going if they are not really interested?
To those people, stay home and play with your toys, but go to a concert for a one off experience!
GET A LIFE!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2016, 06:21:56 AM
Concerts are like the movie theater, some people are stunningly oblivious to anyone but themselves. Even people that pay into the hundreds for concert tickets will show up late, go take 15 minutes and miss three or four songs to get a beer, will be the one person to stand and force everyone else to stand behind them (we've had the standing vs. sitting debates on other threads, but I'll say one thing I won't miss is Scott Bennett mid-show deciding that everyone will have to stand for the next hour instead of having the option of sitting), and so on.

People aren't often respectful to the main act of a show or fellow concergoers, so God help the opening act. The thing that bugs me most about audiences during opening acts is the talking. The shuffling to the seat and all of that is one thing, but I've seen opening acts, usually solid and enjoyable enough to listen to, be literally drowned out by the volume of just general talking in the audience.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on July 13, 2016, 06:55:53 AM
So is Darian only going to play select shows and do the PS portion for this tour?  I have tickets for the July 23 show and hope he is there.

If you're seeing the band on July 23rd, I'd be more bummed about it apparently being the one show on the tour that Al is going to miss.

Al is going to miss the July 23 show??  I haven't heard of this.  That is a huge bummer.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 13, 2016, 07:16:25 AM
Gig with the Surf City Allstars. Doubt he will be there the night before either.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on July 13, 2016, 07:20:16 AM
Gig with the Surf City Allstars. Doubt he will be there the night before either.

That really is a huge bummer!!  I would think the Brian Wilson show would take precadent over that gig, but what do I know.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on July 13, 2016, 07:43:36 AM
it's probably a better paying gig  ::)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2016, 07:54:31 AM
Gig with the Surf City Allstars. Doubt he will be there the night before either.

Brian's website made a point early on to mark only the 7/23 show as "Featuring Blondie Chaplin", which confusingly is their way of saying Al is not going to be there. So I would guess Al will be at the 7/22 show and then fly straight out for this side gig.

I would imagine Al's gig was booked ages ago, prior to the PS tour being booked.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on July 13, 2016, 07:59:40 AM
According to Surf City AllStars website, it is a corporate gig.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2016, 08:00:22 AM
it's probably a better paying gig  ::)

Both Al and Dave probably make more on a per-show basis doing private gigs, the "Surf City All Stars" gigs and whatnot, than they do in either Brian's or Mike's band. It can be pretty lucrative. Not sure why Al has languished for years in this regard while "Papa Doo Run Run" plays countless, mostly private/coporate gigs, each year. I guess an Al show would cost more for clients.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on July 13, 2016, 08:09:31 AM
Gig with the Surf City Allstars. Doubt he will be there the night before either.

Brian's website made a point early on to mark only the 7/23 show as "Featuring Blondie Chaplin", which confusingly is their way of saying Al is not going to be there. So I would guess Al will be at the 7/22 show and then fly straight out for this side gig.

I would imagine Al's gig was booked ages ago, prior to the PS tour being booked.

Had no idea, figured that just meant that Blondie was going to be there, which at the time I was thinking that was pretty sweet.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2016, 08:16:39 AM
Gig with the Surf City Allstars. Doubt he will be there the night before either.

Brian's website made a point early on to mark only the 7/23 show as "Featuring Blondie Chaplin", which confusingly is their way of saying Al is not going to be there. So I would guess Al will be at the 7/22 show and then fly straight out for this side gig.

I would imagine Al's gig was booked ages ago, prior to the PS tour being booked.

Had no idea, figured that just meant that Blondie was going to be there, which at the time I was thinking that was pretty sweet.

Yeah, I didn't understand why they had asterisked one show with Blondie's name until someone here pointed out that it meant that, since by default all other shows feature Al and Blondie, that something marked as featuring Blondie means *only* Blondie.

I get why PR wise it doesn't sound good to list who *isn't* going to be at a show, but they could have at least put "Blondie Chaplin Only" or something.

They've tried and usually, not always, succeeded in making it clear that these are "Brian Wilson" shows and any other guests are subject to change. Going back to 2014 and 2015, Al wasn't doing quite *every* gig with Brian. In 2014, Al mostly just did the California gigs with Brian (plus two UK and Vegas), and in 2015 Al also didn't make a few TV and promotional ("Noncomm") appearances.

On the other hand, Al has done some of the private gigs with Brian in the last couple years, so I think Al is more firmly a "member" of the band now as compared to a few years ago.

But yeah, I'm guessing he booked one corporate gig probably last year or something, and couldn't or wouldn't break that gig. Ideally, Brian could have just booked the Louisiana gig for 7/25 or something (there's nothing on the schedule between the 7/23 gig and the 7/29 Paso Robles gig, and then a break until mid-August).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2016, 08:17:37 AM
In catching a video of "Hushabye" and "Surfer Girl" from the Hollywood Bowl gig, it looks like they've gone back to Brian singing the bridge on "Surfer Girl." Is there any recording on YouTube or elsewhere from the gigs where Blondie sang the bridge?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on July 13, 2016, 08:20:43 AM
"Wild Honey", Phoenix, July 9.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2XTscfBMYM&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 13, 2016, 09:14:57 AM
Re Jul23: That's why I got a ticket for the night before, in Tunica, so that I could see the whole band.

Trying to be optimistic re July 23, for which I have. Sound check ticket. Who will sing the parts Al would have sung? Might there be a song or two that they'll do just for that show? Will Help Me Rhonda be sung?

If nothing else, it should be interesting


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on July 13, 2016, 09:19:45 AM
Will Help Me Rhonda be sung?

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I'm sure Matt will fill in nicely for that one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 13, 2016, 09:47:12 AM
Re Jul23: That's why I got a ticket for the night before, in Tunica, so that I could see the whole band.

Trying to be optimistic re July 23, for which I have. Sound check ticket. Who will sing the parts Al would have sung? Might there be a song or two that they'll do just for that show? Will Help Me Rhonda be sung?

If nothing else, it should be interesting

I'm guessing the one or two Al-centric songs like "Cal Saga" will be dropped, and Matt will probably sing "Rhonda."

If they do the couple of car songs Al normally sings, Brian will just take those (Brian sang them on opening night in 2015, even singing *over* Al on "Little Deuce Coupe" and singing "Shut Down" on his own). Brian also sang "Wake the World" on opening night in 2015, so he could easily do that one as well.

I doubt they'd do it, and it's not my favorite arrangement, but it would be kind of interesting if they did the lowered-key bluesy version of "Rhonda" that Dennis and Carl (and Al) used to sing in the early 70s and have Blondie sing it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on July 13, 2016, 07:36:15 PM
Without Al, I wish they'd finally break out "Leaving This Town."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 13, 2016, 08:12:30 PM
I'll be curious to see how they replace Al's songs for that lone date. It'll probably only free up about 2-3 song slots but that could make a huge difference if used towards Blondie's mini-set.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 14, 2016, 07:26:49 AM
I know this has been discussed ever since Blondie started touring with Brian and Al last year, but he is severely underutilized. I get that an extra guitarist isn't needed on a lot of these songs, but man, give the guy more than 2-3 songs to sing. His voice is out of this world.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 14, 2016, 07:51:47 AM
I know this has been discussed ever since Blondie started touring with Brian and Al last year, but he is severely underutilized. I get that an extra guitarist isn't needed on a lot of these songs, but man, give the guy more than 2-3 songs to sing. His voice is out of this world.

While he was only similarly utilized last year, I think in theory in the future he might get a bit more prominence during a show on a non-PS tour.

The way the current show is structured, there are only around 18 or so first-set songs to divvy up. The PS set is of course set in stone, and the encore pretty much is too. Add to that the "classics" that are always performed in the first set, and there isn't much room left. I do think when they whittle Blondie's leads down to one or two, that's a bit excessive. Three at absolute minimum makes sense. They are presumably paying him to be on the tour, so you'd think they'd get more bang for their buck.

I still think having Brian take a break and having Al and Blondie lead the band for a mini-set of 2-4 songs or so would be ideal. They could do almost half of the "Holland" album based on songs they've done and/or have rehearsed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 14, 2016, 07:55:32 AM
I'll be curious to see how they replace Al's songs for that lone date. It'll probably only free up about 2-3 song slots but that could make a huge difference if used towards Blondie's mini-set.

I think it's more likely they'll at least do the full 3-song Blondie set, but I doubt much else will be different. "Cal Saga" and "Wake the World" are really the only Al leads *currently* in the setlist that Brian hasn't regularly done in the past, and even then he has sung "Wake the World" at least once last year.

My best guess is the setlist will look nearly identical to previous shows. "Cal Saga" and perhaps "Wake the World" will be dropped, Brian will sing Al's car songs, and they might simply sub in another regular Brian track not done often this year like "Please Let Me Wonder" or something.

It would be nice to finally hear the band's rendition of "Leaving this Town", but the Louisiana show will be the fourth show in four nights, so they might have less energy or time to re-rehearse new stuff for that show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on July 15, 2016, 01:13:04 PM
Here at Horseshoe now and listening to band warming up from outside balcony


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on July 15, 2016, 01:16:04 PM
Just let the meet & greet crowd in.oops they are all going back downstairs. Lol

Not part of them. Just chilling until the steak house opens.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on July 15, 2016, 01:33:01 PM
Sound check

In room
Do it again
Sloop jb

Sail on savior. Sounds like Blondie is here!!

I think wake. The world was in there too.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on July 15, 2016, 03:45:54 PM
Ate dinner and visited the product table...t shirt and a mug...sixty bux

1 hr 15 min to showtime!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on July 15, 2016, 04:32:26 PM
Pre-show music sounds like Perrcy  Faith Strings arrangement like my Granny's FM easy listening stations.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 15, 2016, 05:13:54 PM
Couldn't make out most pre-show songs played. But in the last two shows attended I heard "Guess I'm Dumb".
Awesome!  :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mark H. on July 15, 2016, 08:46:37 PM
Caught the Horseshoe gig - that's two in one week after the Hollywood Bowl Sunday.  Pretty much identical shows in terms of the sets.  Brian seemed a bit more engaged although he still half way talks through some of the songs with a staccato like meter.  Blonde was awesome, Al was solid.  Matt Jardine is killing the falsetto parts - best I've hear in years.  Good to see Billy Hinche on the keys, too bad he doesn't get to play any guitar in the shows as he can certainly rip it up.  Looked to be sold out with an engaged audience.   Pretty good end to a fantastic week.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on July 16, 2016, 04:36:07 AM
Caught the Horseshoe gig - that's two in one week after the Hollywood Bowl Sunday.  Pretty much identical shows in terms of the sets.  Brian seemed a bit more engaged although he still half way talks through some of the songs with a staccato like meter.  Blonde was awesome, Al was solid.  Matt Jardine is killing the falsetto parts - best I've hear in years.  Good to see Billy Hinche on the keys, too bad he doesn't get to play any guitar in the shows as he can certainly rip it up.  Looked to be sold out with an engaged audience.   Pretty good end to a fantastic week.

Were you on row D? Talked with a nice couple that saw Hollywood Bowl show. ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mark H. on July 16, 2016, 09:37:00 AM
Yep - that was me.  ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on July 17, 2016, 01:49:35 PM
I went to the Pitchfork show last night. I knew it would be a condensed set, but I was surprised when they came out and jumped right into Pet Sounds. The band was solid but you could tell Brian was tired.

As a younger fan, it was nice to be at a BW show surrounded by fans closer to my age. Many knew the album well and sang along the whole time, even the instrumental lines (ex: intro to You Still Believe In Me).

Overall a fun show to be at, though I look forward to the indoor shows I am attending in the fall. It was fun seeing John Cusack hanging out along the side of the stage the whole night.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 18, 2016, 06:57:52 AM
Looks like the Indiana show got a full-length setlist (39 including "River Deep"), then they did an extremely short setlist at Pitchfork, perhaps the shortest setlist of the tour, and then in Iowa they did a longer but still truncated setlist (assuming it's correct on setlist.fm.

Sometimes (though less so than the olden days), casino shows are required to be shorter. Since both the Indiana and Iowa shows were "Horseshoe Casino" shows, it's a bummer they did such a shortened show in Iowa. Perhaps if you get the band on the third or fourth night in a row, you sometimes get a shorter setlist. The festival gigs being shorter makes sense, but it's a bummer when two nearly-identical venues two days apart get drastically different length shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: leggo of my ego on July 18, 2016, 09:30:31 AM
Looks like the Indiana show got a full-length setlist (39 including "River Deep"), then they did an extremely short setlist at Pitchfork, perhaps the shortest setlist of the tour, and then in Iowa they did a longer but still truncated setlist (assuming it's correct on setlist.fm.

Sometimes (though less so than the olden days), casino shows are required to be shorter. Since both the Indiana and Iowa shows were "Horseshoe Casino" shows, it's a bummer they did such a shortened show in Iowa. Perhaps if you get the band on the third or fourth night in a row, you sometimes get a shorter setlist. The festival gigs being shorter makes sense, but it's a bummer when two nearly-identical venues two days apart get drastically different length shows.

I figured Pet Sounds would be at the beginning but no complaints really except for the rules forbidding taking photos I was satisfied. A very enjoyable evening.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 18, 2016, 04:26:09 PM
I'm not sure what the status is, but the 7/23 show is no longer asterisked on Brian's website as only featuring Blondie, and the date is listed on Al's website. So perhaps be *may* make it to this gig? Certainly no guarantees.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on July 18, 2016, 08:53:01 PM
Wish I knew for sure, as I have tickets for Tunica and Bossier City and it will be difficult getting to both. I haven't gotten word when sound check is on Saturday - for an 8 pm show would it be around 3 or 3:30?
If Al was going to be there on Saturday I would try to give up my Tunica ticket, a really good seat close to the stage at a pretty good price, and instead drive to Bossier City on Friday, spend the night, relax and be refreshed for the concert on Saturday.

(It would probably take up to 8 hours to get to Tunica, then over 7 hours to Bossier City. Guess I'm a crazy fan for even considering doing this!)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on July 19, 2016, 11:34:48 AM
New concert date!!!!!! *sounds the air horn*

Chicago Theatre
Saturday 10/1
Tix go on sale this Friday 7/22 (venue presale) and Saturday 7/23 (general sale) - both sales start at 10 a.m. Central


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 19, 2016, 12:33:44 PM
Cool that Chicago fans have a non-festival show option. It will presumably be a longer show as well.

I've added the date to the top post.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 19, 2016, 06:28:33 PM
I'm not sure what the status is, but the 7/23 show is no longer asterisked on Brian's website as only featuring Blondie, and the date is listed on Al's website. So perhaps be *may* make it to this gig? Certainly no guarantees.

David's site now lists Dean Torrence for his private gig. Looking like a change for sure.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on July 20, 2016, 02:34:05 PM
I'm not sure what the status is, but the 7/23 show is no longer asterisked on Brian's website as only featuring Blondie, and the date is listed on Al's website. So perhaps be *may* make it to this gig? Certainly no guarantees.

David's site now lists Dean Torrence for his private gig. Looking like a change for sure.

Man, this makes my day if true.  I was really bummed thinking Al wouldn't be there at the show.  Now fingers crossed for a full setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SamMcK on July 21, 2016, 12:50:45 PM
Getting ready to head off on the 2 hour drive from Illinois to Missouri in a minute! This will be my second show on this tour since the 22nd May performance at the London Palladium! (Yes I am English) 

Can't wait for my fiance to see Brian live for the first time! ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on July 21, 2016, 12:54:50 PM
Couldn't make out most pre-show songs played. But in the last two shows attended I heard "Guess I'm Dumb".
Awesome!  :)

They are rehearsing this during sound check?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: pancakerecords on July 21, 2016, 01:46:45 PM
Couldn't make out most pre-show songs played. But in the last two shows attended I heard "Guess I'm Dumb".
Awesome!  :)

They are rehearsing this during sound check?

No -just playing it over the PA before the show starts.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 21, 2016, 02:03:43 PM
I think "Guess I'm Dumb" has been a part of their "pre-show PA tape" for awhile now. I recall hearing it last year at both gigs I saw. It's a cool mix of songs, predictably heavy on 60s pop curios and whatnot.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: coco1997 on July 21, 2016, 09:09:00 PM
New concert date!!!!!! *sounds the air horn*

Chicago Theatre
Saturday 10/1
Tix go on sale this Friday 7/22 (venue presale) and Saturday 7/23 (general sale) - both sales start at 10 a.m. Central

Wish they had announced the Chicago Theatre show a few months ago. I wouldn't have gotten tickets to Pitchfork. Music fests aren't really my thing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on July 21, 2016, 09:42:39 PM
New concert date!!!!!! *sounds the air horn*

Chicago Theatre
Saturday 10/1
Tix go on sale this Friday 7/22 (venue presale) and Saturday 7/23 (general sale) - both sales start at 10 a.m. Central

Wish they had announced the Chicago Theatre show a few months ago. I wouldn't have gotten tickets to Pitchfork. Music fests aren't really my thing.
My guess would be that they weren't allowed to announce it due to their contract with the festival. That's fairly common for any headlining act.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 22, 2016, 07:46:07 AM
New concert date!!!!!! *sounds the air horn*

Chicago Theatre
Saturday 10/1
Tix go on sale this Friday 7/22 (venue presale) and Saturday 7/23 (general sale) - both sales start at 10 a.m. Central

Wish they had announced the Chicago Theatre show a few months ago. I wouldn't have gotten tickets to Pitchfork. Music fests aren't really my thing.
My guess would be that they weren't allowed to announce it due to their contract with the festival. That's fairly common for any headlining act.

I too found the timing of the announcement to be likely more than a coincidence. It does create a difficult situation for fans who can only budget for one show. A non-festival show is typically going to be a better concert-going experience and will also usually yield at least a slightly longer setlist.

I think it's good and important for Brian to do festivals; it's good cred with the younger crowd.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 22, 2016, 07:49:07 AM
Looks like last night's setlist got up back at least close to the "long" setlist for the tour. "Do You Wanna Dance" made its first appearance in awhile last night; it looks like it may have taken the place of "Hushabye" (which was sounding great based on the recording I heard).

I have to say "Do You Wanna Dance" is one of my least favorite setlist picks; it was one of the weaker moments of C50. I sense Brian may just dig singing it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on July 22, 2016, 07:24:50 PM
To be honest, I LOVE 'Do You Wanna Dance,' and really enjoyed it in C50.  

I notice that he hasn't played 'One Kind of Love' for a few shows...  hope he brings it back! 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on July 22, 2016, 08:43:09 PM
Do You Wanna Dance works when the crowd wants it to work. I just saw M&B Tuesday and it totally fell flat with the dead crowd. On C50, it was placed in the set where it couldn't fail, I felt. Everyone was already up and rocking and they rolled through it and the energy stayed high. I also like when David sings it. I think it's pretty shitty to "honor" Dennis by playing his recording on tour (M&B) and I don't think Brian has the pipes for it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on July 22, 2016, 09:26:25 PM
No meet & greet stories or pictures posted here in some time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wbarnes4393 on July 24, 2016, 07:21:00 AM
Saw the show last night in Bossier City, LA (Horseshoe Casino - Riverdome). Really small room, so it was great seeing the band up close. Al Jardine was with the group after all. Not Darian though (Billy Hinsche was there). Brian was in pretty good form. There was no intermission, so I am guessing it was a shorter show.  This was the setlist for last night :

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls (with some new intro)
Dance Dance Dance
Do You wanna dance
I Get Around
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry baby
California Saga: California
Wild Honey
Sail on sailor
(pet sounds in order)
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ArchStanton on July 24, 2016, 08:44:47 AM
Looks like the Indiana show got a full-length setlist (39 including "River Deep"), then they did an extremely short setlist at Pitchfork, perhaps the shortest setlist of the tour, and then in Iowa they did a longer but still truncated setlist (assuming it's correct on setlist.fm.

Sometimes (though less so than the olden days), casino shows are required to be shorter. Since both the Indiana and Iowa shows were "Horseshoe Casino" shows, it's a bummer they did such a shortened show in Iowa. Perhaps if you get the band on the third or fourth night in a row, you sometimes get a shorter setlist. The festival gigs being shorter makes sense, but it's a bummer when two nearly-identical venues two days apart get drastically different length shows.

I was at the Iowa show (first time seeing Brian!). It was hotter than hell, the show was outside, and the band was right in the sun, so that may have been part of the shorter set. Bluntly, Brian really didn't do too well, and I was legitimately worried about him, so it's good to hear that he sounds better elsewhere. He sounded fine on the faster songs, but on a lot of the Pet Sounds tracks, he was missing a lot of lines and just kind of spitting others out here and there.

But the weather was brutal. I'm just glad I finally was able to see him!

We would've loved hearing "Do You Wanna Dance?" though, as it's my wife's favorite. :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on July 25, 2016, 07:25:25 AM
Saw the show last night in Bossier City, LA (Horseshoe Casino - Riverdome). Really small room, so it was great seeing the band up close. Al Jardine was with the group after all. Not Darian though (Billy Hinsche was there). Brian was in pretty good form. There was no intermission, so I am guessing it was a shorter show.  This was the setlist for last night :

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls (with some new intro)
Dance Dance Dance
Do You wanna dance
I Get Around
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry baby
California Saga: California
Wild Honey
Sail on sailor
(pet sounds in order)
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy

Was there as well.  Great show.  Even got Al's autograph after the show so glad he was able to make it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 26, 2016, 10:11:15 AM
Glad Al made it to the Louisiana gig. Still a bummer the setlist varies in length even on stand-alone shows.

Seriously, why can't they just give Al and Blondie a solo spot with a few songs (truly solo or with some or all of the band)? I understand it's a Brian show, but it's kind of a bummer when one show gets a 40-song setlist and then another gets 32.

I've assumed in more recent years that the restriction on concert length for casino shows was not as much of a thing (due to the casinos being much more of a "resort/destination" thing rather than being mostly only gambling), but perhaps some casino venues still do tell bands to keep it short.

They're more than half-way through the tour now; by my quick count they've done 49 shows (including the private gig in April), and have 42 shows to go starting with Paso Robles.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Kurosawa on July 26, 2016, 03:17:01 PM
Got my ticket today for the Raleigh show on August 19th. Can't wait!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Uncle Jesse on July 26, 2016, 06:57:45 PM
Are they maybe doing the shorter set at outdoor shows?  Playing a long set might get grueling in this summer heat


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 27, 2016, 06:25:23 AM
Are they maybe doing the shorter set at outdoor shows?  Playing a long set might get grueling in this summer heat

That's certainly a possibility. I *think* the previous few "Horseshoe Casino" gigs were indoor though.

Outdoor festival gigs are shorter, but I think that has more to do with the nature of festival gigs.

I think it also has to do with, as someone else awhile back mentioned, that Brian seems to lag a little more when he's doing a second (or third or fourth) night in a row and traveled the day before.

When he's had a day off, or if it's multiple nights at the same venue without traveling, he seems a little more rested and is able to put in a better show. *Very generally* speaking.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on July 27, 2016, 06:57:39 AM
Are they maybe doing the shorter set at outdoor shows?  Playing a long set might get grueling in this summer heat

That's certainly a possibility. I *think* the previous few "Horseshoe Casino" gigs were indoor though.

Outdoor festival gigs are shorter, but I think that has more to do with the nature of festival gigs.

I think it also has to do with, as someone else awhile back mentioned, that Brian seems to lag a little more when he's doing a second (or third or fourth) night in a row and traveled the day before.

When he's had a day off, or if it's multiple nights at the same venue without traveling, he seems a little more rested and is able to put in a better show. *Very generally* speaking.

I saw them at two "festival" shows (Ottawa Montreal) and one "regular" show (Toronto) in the first week of July.  The Toronto show was full-length, but the Ottawa and Montreal shows were shorter.  Ottawa was outside, but the Montreal show was in a concert hall at the arts centre.  So I don't think it has to do with whether the show's outside or inside. 

I can't really understand why these particular festival shows were shorter, because it wasn't a situation where were a lot of bands playing on one day.  Rather, these were separate ticketed events. 

And I couldn't agree more with the idea of giving Al and/or Blondie their own mini-sets!!!

 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on July 27, 2016, 07:53:39 AM
Are they maybe doing the shorter set at outdoor shows?  Playing a long set might get grueling in this summer heat

That's certainly a possibility. I *think* the previous few "Horseshoe Casino" gigs were indoor though.

Outdoor festival gigs are shorter, but I think that has more to do with the nature of festival gigs.

I think it also has to do with, as someone else awhile back mentioned, that Brian seems to lag a little more when he's doing a second (or third or fourth) night in a row and traveled the day before.

When he's had a day off, or if it's multiple nights at the same venue without traveling, he seems a little more rested and is able to put in a better show. *Very generally* speaking.

I saw them at two "festival" shows (Ottawa Montreal) and one "regular" show (Toronto) in the first week of July.  The Toronto show was full-length, but the Ottawa and Montreal shows were shorter.  Ottawa was outside, but the Montreal show was in a concert hall at the arts centre.  So I don't think it has to do with whether the show's outside or inside. 

I can't really understand why these particular festival shows were shorter, because it wasn't a situation where were a lot of bands playing on one day.  Rather, these were separate ticketed events. 

And I couldn't agree more with the idea of giving Al and/or Blondie their own mini-sets!!!

 

I'm probably now way *overanalyzing* it, but another thing with festival gigs is that, even if it's a sort of "stand-alone" ticketed show within a festival, they tend to leave out an intermission. I wonder if perhaps they skip an intermission at outdoor festival gigs because, unlike indoor theaters or amphitheaters where people more easily have a place to go during the intermission and have a reserved seat to come back to, there's no much anybody can do at a festival gig during intermission.

So, rather than not doing an intermission because the show is shorter, perhaps they're doing a shorter show because there's no intermission. Indeed, 2015 gigs typically didn't have intermissions and clocked in around 32 or so songs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 03, 2016, 06:11:04 AM
Two more dates:

October 28, 2016 – London, England - Royal Albert Hall
October 30, 2016 – Paris, France - Salle Pleyel


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 03, 2016, 07:01:12 AM
Well, I see those weren't the final UK dates after all...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 03, 2016, 08:43:28 AM
More Brian shows ain't a bad thing, from a fan perspective.

I also am not prepared yet to criticize a billing of a "final UK tour" if it's followed by some scattered additional dates.

If Brian books another month's worth of shows next year throughout the UK, then some criticism of this year's billing would be warranted.

But the fact that he booked two September shows and one October show in the UK after the main "tour" is not a big deal, and I don't particularly consider the two September shows as a "tour" particularly. I know the Bellagio tour dates website tends to call any grouping of shows in a region a brand-new "tour", but I kind of just look at tours by years more than anything else.

All of this is the 2016 tour, which is clearly jumping back and forth around the globe. If anything, it's a probably a pain in the ass to make arrangements for *three* separate trips to play gigs in the UK over a span of only five months. They must be getting some good offers to do these additional shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 03, 2016, 09:19:47 AM
More Brian shows ain't a bad thing, from a fan perspective.

I also am not prepared yet to criticize a billing of a "final UK tour" if it's followed by some scattered additional dates.

If Brian books another month's worth of shows next year throughout the UK, then some criticism of this year's billing would be warranted.

But the fact that he booked two September shows and one October show in the UK after the main "tour" is not a big deal, and I don't particularly consider the two September shows as a "tour" particularly. I know the Bellagio tour dates website tends to call any grouping of shows in a region a brand-new "tour", but I kind of just look at tours by years more than anything else.

All of this is the 2016 tour, which is clearly jumping back and forth around the globe. If anything, it's a probably a pain in the ass to make arrangements for *three* separate trips to play gigs in the UK over a span of only five months. They must be getting some good offers to do these additional shows.

True! And I'm certainly happy to see Brian doing them. I just feel that the UK fans have been treated with much disregard lately with all this back and forth on the "final tour" and reschedules etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 03, 2016, 09:26:30 AM
The whole 2015 tour cancellation was certainly unfortunate to say the least.

I just think one can't assume anything "final" is actually final. All of this year's "one last time" stuff I've simply taken more as "chances to see this are diminishing as time goes by."

One of the articles a couple months back suggested they were already looking at more PS shows in 2017 to hit markets they didn't in 2016 and to do return visits to markets already hit that could have sustained a second or third show being added.

Ideally, it would be nice to hammer down a full, final tour schedule before anything goes on sale so that people can pick a show to go to that is the least inconvenient. But a lot of us have probably dealt with that: Travel farther out to some show, only for a closer show to subsequently be announced.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 03, 2016, 08:23:24 PM
The whole 2015 tour cancellation was certainly unfortunate to say the least.

I just think one can't assume anything "final" is actually final. All of this year's "one last time" stuff I've simply taken more as "chances to see this are diminishing as time goes by."

One of the articles a couple months back suggested they were already looking at more PS shows in 2017 to hit markets they didn't in 2016 and to do return visits to markets already hit that could have sustained a second or third show being added.

Ideally, it would be nice to hammer down a full, final tour schedule before anything goes on sale so that people can pick a show to go to that is the least inconvenient. But a lot of us have probably dealt with that: Travel farther out to some show, only for a closer show to subsequently be announced.

Yep, happened to me with Bethesda and then Baltimore...and they got me for both.  :lol

Personally, having come to the fandom after all the smile tours...my interest would be rooted in shifting the focus in that direction... ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mojoman3061 on August 07, 2016, 01:34:18 PM
Saw the show last night in Bossier City, LA (Horseshoe Casino - Riverdome). Really small room, so it was great seeing the band up close. Al Jardine was with the group after all. Not Darian though (Billy Hinsche was there). Brian was in pretty good form. There was no intermission, so I am guessing it was a shorter show.  This was the setlist for last night :

Our Prayer; Heroes and Villains; California Girls (with some new intro); Dance Dance Dance; Do You wanna dance; I Get Around; Surfer Girl; Don't Worry baby; California Saga: California; Wild Honey; Sail on sailor;

(pet sounds in order);

Good Vibrations; Help Me Rhonda; Barbara Ann; Surfin USA; Fun Fun Fun; Love and Mercy
This jibes with my notes from this show.  I'll fill in a little detail.

When they came on stage, Brian said, "Hello.  Thank you for coming out tonight.  We really appreciate it."  Al played a red Strat (he played a white one in December).

"Heroes and Villains" included the cantina section, and Paul Mertens said, "You're under arrest."  "California Girls" had the "River Deep Mountain High" intro.  Brian introduced "Surfer Girl" as "the first song I ever wrote."  He took it at a fairly brisk tempo, I thought.

Matt Jardine got some cheers.  I thought he must have had a fan club there.  Paul played flute and harmonica on "California Saga: California."  Blondie does not hold anything back when he sings "Wild Honey"!  He took two guitar solos, and Paul had a tenor sax solo in between.

I wasn't sure what Paul was playing in "You Still Believe in Me."  Was it a clarinet?

On "Don’t Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder),"  Brian and Matt shared the lead.  Matt beautifully picked it up from "heart."

Al introduced "Sloop John B" by saying, "We reshaped this to be a Beach Boys song."  Brian sang what was Mike's part.  Al sang "this is the worst trip …" the first time and "this is the best trip …" the second time.  When it was done, Al said, "Well, that’s the end of Side 1."

Brian did a talky, Rod Stewart-like lead vocal on "God Only Knows," joined by the audience.  He got a standing ovation, then said, "Please be seated."

Al played a banjo under Paul's bass harmonica solo in "I Know There's an Answer."  "Pet Sounds" (the song) was played without the James Bond intro I heard in December.  Brian's best lead vocal of the night was on "Caroline, No."

Everything after Pet Sounds was an encore.  They did "Barbara Ann" with the "Fingertips" intro ("Everybody say yeah ...").  Paul's bari sax line at the end of "Fun, Fun, Fun" quoted "Rhapsody in Blue."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wbarnes4393 on August 11, 2016, 10:07:14 PM
Yes, thanks for this. I laughed when Brian told everyone nervously to "please be seated" after God Only Knows.  Not sure if he was nervous, or just being businesslike.

Now that we're filling in details, this reminds me.  What was the thing they did before California Girls?  Seems like I had read about a new intro they were doing for that, but I didn't get my bearings until it was almost over.  Is there a clip anywhere of them doing that?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Craig Boyd on August 15, 2016, 07:54:48 AM
Just wondering if anyone knows of a fan meetup pre/post show for the September 24th Beacon gig in New York? I'm travelling over from Scotland so it would be nice to meet some fans on the other side of the pond!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 16, 2016, 08:08:11 AM
Added the November Oslo date to the top post schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on August 16, 2016, 09:17:36 AM
Now that we're filling in details, this reminds me.  What was the thing they did before California Girls?  Seems like I had read about a new intro they were doing for that, but I didn't get my bearings until it was almost over.  Is there a clip anywhere of them doing that?

An excerpt of "River Deep Mountain High" the great Ike & Tina Turner song produced by Phil Spector.  There's an unfinished Beach Boys version that's circulated on bootleg for years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on August 16, 2016, 12:16:08 PM
Added the November Oslo date to the top post schedule.

Very interesting.  Do you think this will be a single appearance after the official end of the tour, or do you think they'll extend past October and do a bunch of dates in November? 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 16, 2016, 12:18:19 PM
Hard to say. They now have three European dates spanning the end of October and beginning of November. At the very least, I could see them filling in a few more shows between that Paris gig and the Oslo gig.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 17, 2016, 01:58:11 PM
No setlist found yet for last night's Bowling Green show, though someone on the BW website board mentioned "Wake the World" and "Add Some Music to Your Day."

Was also curious if Darian would be back yet, but a short clip on YouTube shows Billy Hinsche is still there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bossaroo on August 19, 2016, 08:54:27 AM
saw the show in Asheville last night. Brian and the band got a great reception and did a fantastic performance.

been avoiding this thread to keep from spoiling any possible surprises this tour, so I was indeed surprised by the "River Deep" intro to CA Girls not to mention Funky Pretty! Wake the World and California were also great treats to hear. I wasn't expecting Billy to be in the band so that was very cool too. Matt sounded really great... the crowd loved him. Brian telling folks to "please be seated" 2 or 3 times over the course of the show was this tour's crack-up moment. Blondie was feeling great and it showed, I don't think too many in the crowd were expecting his presence at all especially when he cranked up and rocked out... I was loving every second of it. and what can you say about Al that hasn't already been said... he was solid as ever, his voice is the fountain of youth, and he dressed the part in his white suit and matching guitar. I may have shouted out "Keep it Clean!" at one point, can't quite recall.

Brian wasn't nearly as animated or talkative as last summer's tour, but I like his new vocal approach on some of the songs... almost talking his way through verses at times and playing with the timing, similar to Willie Nelson or Bob Dylan. really seems to suit him at his age and it's great to hear him trying something new.

picked up a poster and tour booklet, which features several outtakes from the front and back cover shoots I'd never seen before. the $100 bronze bust of Brian was a cool thing I'd love to own, but I had to pass.

(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/4c1c48dbf3f34fcaac5879b6d0769c78.jpeg)
(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/678660a80b45409788fa9b2806880e99.jpeg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Kurosawa on August 19, 2016, 11:02:16 PM
saw the show in Asheville last night. Brian and the band got a great reception and did a fantastic performance.

been avoiding this thread to keep from spoiling any possible surprises this tour, so I was indeed surprised by the "River Deep" intro to CA Girls not to mention Funky Pretty! Wake the World and California were also great treats to hear. I wasn't expecting Billy to be in the band so that was very cool too. Matt sounded really great... the crowd loved him. Brian telling folks to "please be seated" 2 or 3 times over the course of the show was this tour's crack-up moment. Blondie was feeling great and it showed, I don't think too many in the crowd were expecting his presence at all especially when he cranked up and rocked out... I was loving every second of it. and what can you say about Al that hasn't already been said... he was solid as ever, his voice is the fountain of youth, and he dressed the part in his white suit and matching guitar. I may have shouted out "Keep it Clean!" at one point, can't quite recall.

Brian wasn't nearly as animated or talkative as last summer's tour, but I like his new vocal approach on some of the songs... almost talking his way through verses at times and playing with the timing, similar to Willie Nelson or Bob Dylan. really seems to suit him at his age and it's great to hear him trying something new.

picked up a poster and tour booklet, which features several outtakes from the front and back cover shoots I'd never seen before. the $100 bronze bust of Brian was a cool thing I'd love to own, but I had to pass.

(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/4c1c48dbf3f34fcaac5879b6d0769c78.jpeg)
(http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws.com/image/jpg/678660a80b45409788fa9b2806880e99.jpeg)

I was at the Raleigh show tonight and it was very similar to the show you went to.  Brian missed a few cues and a lyric or two, but Al was there to pick him up. He did the talk/singing thing, but it has that quirky Brian charm and it does seem like he is telling a story, especially in You Still Believe In me.  It almost seemed like he and Matt were playing the roles of couple; it kind of reminded me of some stuff Daltrey and Townshend do. And I can't say enough about how great Matt Jardine is....this is my second time seeing him, I saw him a few years back with the Surf City All-Stars with Al, David and Dean and he was fantastic there too. And Brian's band is just ridiculously good.  It was also exciting to see Billy, as I didn't become a huge BB fan until after his and Ed Carter's time in the band was over.

I picked up the "Help Me Rhonda" baseball tee....pricey at $50, but I've wanted that shirt for years.

I couldn't be happier.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mark A. Moore on August 19, 2016, 11:20:25 PM
I was at the Raleigh show, too. It was fantastic. And I agree with others above. Matt Jardine is a major talent. They all are, really. Enjoyed watching Blondie play some lead guitar. And Mike D'Amico paid homage to Dennis by playing drums "Denny Style" on "Surfin' U.S.A." . . . Left hand playing the hi-hat and the right on snare.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Kurosawa on August 19, 2016, 11:46:36 PM
I was at the Raleigh show, too. It was fantastic. And I agree with others above. Matt Jardine is a major talent. They all are, really. Enjoyed watching Blondie play some lead guitar. And Mike D'Amico paid homage to Dennis by playing drums "Denny Style" on "Surfin' U.S.A." . . . Left hand playing the hi-hat and the right on snare.

I was playing that way once and bent my hi-hat....the cymbals were kinda cheap but I still got a laugh out of it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 22, 2016, 09:32:32 AM
Updated the setlist links on the top post. Anyone have a setlist for the 8/18 Asheville show? That one is still missing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 22, 2016, 10:39:07 AM
Updated the setlist links on the top post. Anyone have a setlist for the 8/18 Asheville show? That one is still missing.

Thanks for keeping everything up. I'm still surprised at the number of early Beach Boy tunes in the show. YES I KNOW- it is Brian's music he can play what he wants...please, people in the woodwork waiting to attack...just stay there. My thoughts are that with the number of musicians on stage and especially the presence of Blondie, he wouldn't feel the need to be playing so many car songs etc.  Hoping the gorgeous Hippodrome here in Baltimore tomorrow night inspires them to dig out some deeper cuts in place of those tomorrow!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 22, 2016, 11:28:46 AM
Updated the setlist links on the top post. Anyone have a setlist for the 8/18 Asheville show? That one is still missing.

Thanks for keeping everything up. I'm still surprised at the number of early Beach Boy tunes in the show. YES I KNOW- it is Brian's music he can play what he wants...please, people in the woodwork waiting to attack...just stay there. My thoughts are that with the number of musicians on stage and especially the presence of Blondie, he wouldn't feel the need to be playing so many car songs etc.  Hoping the gorgeous Hippodrome here in Baltimore tomorrow night inspires them to dig out some deeper cuts in place of those tomorrow!

I've been hoping for something different: more deep cuts, a rare Al song or two, another Blondie song, etc. But I think the setlist is pretty firmly in place. I'm sure we'll get a weird item (or at least different, or something rotated in from previous months) here and there randomly. But they rehearsed "Leaving this Town" and have never added it to the setlist, they dropped "Honkin' Down the Highway" some time back, appear to have quickly dropped the intriguing variation of Blondie singing the bridge on "Surfer Girl", and the 38-39 song setlist seems like the "long" variation at this point.

So I would expect and assume that the most recent 38-39 song setlists are the best case scenario, and sometimes it goes back down to 32-35 songs.

I just wish they could even do a few seeming "no brainers" that have even been performed or rehearsed on occasion in the past like "Lookin' at Tomorrow" or "Leaving This Town."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 22, 2016, 12:38:25 PM
I hadn't really noticed that "One Kind of Love" has been gone from the setlist for awhile. The last performance I can find is July 15th. It wasn't one of my favorites, so I don't particularly mind.

But it would be interesting if they dug into something else from his solo catalog.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mabewa on August 22, 2016, 11:50:23 PM
Nice to see the setlists back up to 38 songs...  maybe Brian is feeling better.

I find it a bit sad that they seem to have dropped 'One Kind of Love'--that was really great when they played it in Osaka.  Maybe they can bring back another NPP song, like 'Sail Away' though? 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Matt H on August 23, 2016, 04:41:16 AM
Nice to see the setlists back up to 38 songs...  maybe Brian is feeling better.

I find it a bit sad that they seem to have dropped 'One Kind of Love'--that was really great when they played it in Osaka.  Maybe they can bring back another NPP song, like 'Sail Away' though? 

In general they should have more solo songs.  There are plenty of good ones to choose from.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 23, 2016, 07:12:11 AM
Once "new album" solo stuff gets dropped, it doesn't often reappear. There are random times where things get reintroduced. He has put "Your Imagination" back into the setlist as recently as 2013.

But I wouldn't count on much new solo stuff being added. And, if it is, it's more likely to be some random older cut than it is a different track from NPP.

Would still love to hear the band tackle, say, "Orange Crate Art" or "San Francisco."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 23, 2016, 09:00:35 PM
First and foremost...SETLIST: the order may be slightly off...

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
River Deep --> California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Don't Worry Baby
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Wake The World
Add Some Music To Your Day
You're So Good To Me
California Saga
Wild Honey
Funky Pretty
Sail on Sailor
-Intermission-
-Pet Sounds-
-Standard Encore-


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 23, 2016, 09:20:07 PM
So thoughts on the show...by section:

The Opening Set- The sound was very quiet and the theatre was very cold. However, it was a great crowd. The band could have played anything at all...it was all very well received, something that certainly doesn't happen at a "Beach Boys" concert often. Brian started out great. His vocals were mostly solid. I still wish they played more Post-Pet Sounds material. It's really awkward to sit in a cold, dark theatre listening to an under tempo version of "Dance, Dance, Dance" politely in your seat. That being said, it was the PERFECT venue for "Wake The World" onward. The only noticeable screw-up was on the bridge of "In My Room" Brian started with "Do my crying and my sighing" so when that part came up he realized it instantly and threw his hands over his face. Also, one good Brianism came before "You're So Good To Me" (which I think made it's tour debut tonight?) when Al asked Brian if he knew which album it was from and Brian dead pans with an exasperated "Well I don't know!"...got a good chuckle! Blondie's set is still hands-down the highlight of the first set when he's with them. "Leaving This Town" would be the cherry on top...hopefully it gets in there by September.

Pet Sounds- I've only seen an album performed live once and that was Rush's "Moving Pictures" tour in 2011. When they did it, there was almost no breaks at all...they played it like the record was playing and it was a really cool effect that I think would've gone down well tonight. Brian introduced every single song, and also pointed out which ones were instrumentals...and Alan's joke about flipping the record went over well. But, I think this could be so effective as just one work of art...no breaks, no jokes, no introductions. It was definitely a "Pet Sounds" crowd...everyone knew which song came next. Additionally, Brian seemed incredibly tense during this set. He did not appear comfortable like he did in the opening set at all. His hands were away from the keyboard much more and he missed a lot of lines so much, to the point that Matt Jardine began to start a lot of the phrases and then Brian would ease in. Of course, some of these seemed rehearsed but some definitely did not. Brian also had a much rougher voice in this set...which isn't an adjective I'd often use to describe anything about Brian, but his voice got kinda growly at times. Caroline, No wasn't even close to over yet...he sang his last word and took off in a very unsteady sprint off stage without a wave or glance at the audience. I've always seen Brian at least wave before he leaves and he'll usually wait till the songs in the final bars or so.

Encore- I liked this more than usual. Von Mertens got the crowd on their feet after introducing Brian, and luckily they stayed up! Additionally, Alan sang the leads on "Barbara Ann" and most of "Surfin' USA" and "Fun Fun Fun" which added more strength to the vocal line. "Love and Mercy" was incredibly touching and definitely Brian's best lead of the night...he really nailed it.

We left as they were bowing, and as we were crossing the street to the parking garage, we saw Brian and posse making a break out the stage door to the bus just across the street...as he got on, I yelled out a big "Love ya Brian!"...no sign if he heard me or not, but how often do I get to tell Brian Wilson I love him from across the street?  :-D   I'm really excited for the Strathmore show. We have the first two seats on the upper box so we're like almost on the edge of the stage. I think I'll try and make a sign or sheet or something to hang over with like a "Pet Sounds Forever" or something on it...the wheels are turning...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on August 24, 2016, 05:24:57 AM
RS,

I noticed his vocals were a little rougher on PS too, particularly on YSBIM.  But, overall, a very good vocal performance.  Matt did a terrific job on the higher notes.

I also noticed the theater was a little chilly at the beginning of the show, but I felt like they turned the AC down a bit.  I thought it was noticeably warmer by the end of the PS set.  Maybe it was the music.

You already mentioned the Brianism before YSGTM.  Brian also asked the crowd to please be seated during several standing ovations in the middle of the PS set. 

Also amusing moment, when Blondie came out at the end of the first set, he forgot what song they were going into. 

Great show.  The sound mix was incredible.  The band was on the whole night.  Like you said, Brian's vocals were very good in the first set.  Got a little rough around the edges at times at the beginning of the PS set, but seemed to smooth out by the time he got to I'm Waiting for the Day. 

Very minor setlist gripe.  I wouldn't mind seeing the early car songs dropped in favor of more Sunflower / Surf's Up era material. 

Great night.  Now, 27 days til Bethesda. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on August 24, 2016, 06:01:47 AM
They did You're so good to me earlier in the tour, in Burlington, I think.

Is anyone going to Syracuse next week? Don't know what to expect, as this is a show that is included in fair admission. I think that will make it a "greatest hits" type crowd as opposed to some of the theatre shows I've seen where people are clearly there for more than just the car songs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on August 24, 2016, 06:25:26 AM
I didn't mention in my earlier post of the Baltimore show. 

One of my highlights was the performance of I Know There's an Answer.  Brian would sing the first line of the verse (Mike's part), followed by Al on banjo singing the rest of the verse.  Then, Matt comes up to do the chorus. 

One of many highlights, but that one stuck out to me.  I'm really hoping for a live document of the tour, if just to have a live version of this PS song with Al's vocals. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 24, 2016, 07:32:58 AM
RS,

I noticed his vocals were a little rougher on PS too, particularly on YSBIM.  But, overall, a very good vocal performance.  Matt did a terrific job on the higher notes.

I also noticed the theater was a little chilly at the beginning of the show, but I felt like they turned the AC down a bit.  I thought it was noticeably warmer by the end of the PS set.  Maybe it was the music.

You already mentioned the Brianism before YSGTM.  Brian also asked the crowd to please be seated during several standing ovations in the middle of the PS set. 

Also amusing moment, when Blondie came out at the end of the first set, he forgot what song they were going into. 

Great show.  The sound mix was incredible.  The band was on the whole night.  Like you said, Brian's vocals were very good in the first set.  Got a little rough around the edges at times at the beginning of the PS set, but seemed to smooth out by the time he got to I'm Waiting for the Day. 

Very minor setlist gripe.  I wouldn't mind seeing the early car songs dropped in favor of more Sunflower / Surf's Up era material. 

Great night.  Now, 27 days til Bethesda. 

Yes! Forgot about please be seated moments...that was mildly terrifying.  :lol

Where were your seats? I was on the main level but beneath the upper level and it was really quiet back there. Really looking forward to Strathmore!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on August 24, 2016, 07:56:23 AM
RS,

I noticed his vocals were a little rougher on PS too, particularly on YSBIM.  But, overall, a very good vocal performance.  Matt did a terrific job on the higher notes.

I also noticed the theater was a little chilly at the beginning of the show, but I felt like they turned the AC down a bit.  I thought it was noticeably warmer by the end of the PS set.  Maybe it was the music.

You already mentioned the Brianism before YSGTM.  Brian also asked the crowd to please be seated during several standing ovations in the middle of the PS set. 

Also amusing moment, when Blondie came out at the end of the first set, he forgot what song they were going into. 

Great show.  The sound mix was incredible.  The band was on the whole night.  Like you said, Brian's vocals were very good in the first set.  Got a little rough around the edges at times at the beginning of the PS set, but seemed to smooth out by the time he got to I'm Waiting for the Day. 

Very minor setlist gripe.  I wouldn't mind seeing the early car songs dropped in favor of more Sunflower / Surf's Up era material. 

Great night.  Now, 27 days til Bethesda. 

Yes! Forgot about please be seated moments...that was mildly terrifying.  :lol

Where were your seats? I was on the main level but beneath the upper level and it was really quiet back there. Really looking forward to Strathmore!

I was orchestra center row O, which I suppose was about 20 rows back or so. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on August 24, 2016, 08:23:24 AM
RS,

I noticed his vocals were a little rougher on PS too, particularly on YSBIM.  But, overall, a very good vocal performance.  Matt did a terrific job on the higher notes.

I also noticed the theater was a little chilly at the beginning of the show, but I felt like they turned the AC down a bit.  I thought it was noticeably warmer by the end of the PS set.  Maybe it was the music.

You already mentioned the Brianism before YSGTM.  Brian also asked the crowd to please be seated during several standing ovations in the middle of the PS set. 

Also amusing moment, when Blondie came out at the end of the first set, he forgot what song they were going into. 

Great show.  The sound mix was incredible.  The band was on the whole night.  Like you said, Brian's vocals were very good in the first set.  Got a little rough around the edges at times at the beginning of the PS set, but seemed to smooth out by the time he got to I'm Waiting for the Day. 

Very minor setlist gripe.  I wouldn't mind seeing the early car songs dropped in favor of more Sunflower / Surf's Up era material. 

Great night.  Now, 27 days til Bethesda. 

Yes! Forgot about please be seated moments...that was mildly terrifying.  :lol

Where were your seats? I was on the main level but beneath the upper level and it was really quiet back there. Really looking forward to Strathmore!

I was orchestra center row O, which I suppose was about 20 rows back or so. 

I was much farther back in row BB far, far left.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 24, 2016, 10:27:48 AM
Added a November 7 Sweden show to the top post schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Mark A. Moore on August 24, 2016, 01:01:36 PM
For those on Facebook, here are three full-song video clips from the Raleigh show, 8-19-16.

You Still Believe In Me:
https://www.facebook.com/mark.a.moore.79/videos/10210282306280146/

God Only Knows:
https://www.facebook.com/mark.a.moore.79/videos/10210282529925737/

Band Intro and Good Vibrations:
https://www.facebook.com/mark.a.moore.79/videos/10210282686929662/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: KDS on August 24, 2016, 01:10:52 PM
Another stray observation from Baltimore's concert last night. 

Nobody sang Mike's lyrics on the coda of WIBN ("Good Night / Sleep Night / etc"). 

Has this occurred on other shows on the tour? 



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: lee on August 24, 2016, 01:45:14 PM
Another stray observation from Baltimore's concert last night. 

Nobody sang Mike's lyrics on the coda of WIBN ("Good Night / Sleep Night / etc"). 

Has this occurred on other shows on the tour? 



The coda was not sung at the Asheville show either.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on August 24, 2016, 01:48:17 PM
Another stray observation from Baltimore's concert last night. 

Nobody sang Mike's lyrics on the coda of WIBN ("Good Night / Sleep Night / etc"). 

Has this occurred on other shows on the tour? 



I vaguely remember that might have happened in Kansas City, geez, or somewhere else I attended.  Maybe someone who was there could help me out?  I had a lot going on at the time (a large group of friends attending I was "sort of" hosting, and a long-time friend I hadn't seen in years to enjoy for a brief time in KC).  Maybe they didn't do it?  Maybe I missed it?  In any case, I didn't miss it. It's rather inconsequential to the song in my opinion.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: pudge104 on August 26, 2016, 11:53:13 AM
Updated the setlist links on the top post. Anyone have a setlist for the 8/18 Asheville show? That one is still missing.
I was there, I'm pretty confident the set list is the same as the 16th.  Hopefully someone can confirm.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: lee on August 26, 2016, 07:49:30 PM
I was there too and the setlist was exactly the same as the 16th.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on August 27, 2016, 12:28:17 AM
I was there too and the setlist was exactly the same as the 16th.

To avoid confusion on previous posts: I don't believe anyone was speaking of the setlist in Kansas City - just the "good night..." phrase.  I certainly would never consider WIBN inconsequential.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 28, 2016, 08:06:09 AM
On a whim, I bought tickets mid-week to see Brian and co. at the Circus Maximus Theatre in Caesar's Atlantic City. Brian was in very good form. In fact, for the first part of the show, I've never seen him so animated - until about 1/4th of the way through the show when he settled into his usual reserved (but still singing very well) self. Brian stopped the I Get Around/Shut Down medley right in the middle to sing Row, Row, Row Your Boat :)

Show started at 9PM. No intermission. The band played through until 10:50.

Setlist


Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
California Girls - with River Deep, Mountain High into
Dance, Dance, Dance
I Get Around
Row, Row, Row Your Boat thing
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
California Saga: California
You're So Good to Me
Wild Honey
Sail On, Sailor

Pet Sounds in full - enjoyed some of the new ways Brian is approaching vocals on this set.

Good Vibrations
Help Me, Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' U.S.A.
Fun, Fun, Fun


So, no L&M (very surprised), Wake The World, Add Some Music. But even as a shortened set, it was still longer than most full shows by other bands. They all seemed happy to be there. Great show!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: GoodToMyBaby on August 29, 2016, 08:42:32 PM
Saw Brian at the New York State Fair in Syracuse tonight.  I had a great time.  Brian seemed like he was having trouble hearing himself but the band was on fire.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bhw on August 30, 2016, 05:55:21 AM
I, too, was at Syracuse and had a great time.  As usual the band was on fire. An insider mentioned they were tired but it did not show. Brian was not animated at all and the concert was the shortest I've attended in 30 years of BB related concerts. Still, it was a wonderful evening and Herman's Hermits were great, too!

The setlist...

1.   California Girls
2.   I Get Around
3.   Shut Down
4.   Little Deuce Coupe
5.   California Saga: California
6.   Wild Honey
7.   Sail On, Sailor
8.   Wouldn't It Be Nice
9.   You Still Believe in Me
10.   That's Not Me
11.   Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
12.   I'm Waiting for the Day
13.   Let's Go Away for Awhile
14.   Sloop John B
15.   God Only Knows
16.   I Know There's an Answer
17.   Here Today
18.   I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
19.   Pet Sounds
20.   Caroline, No
21.   Good Vibrations
22.   Help Me, Rhonda
23.   Barbara Ann
24.   Surfin' U.S.A.
25.   Fun, Fun, Fun

BTW - Blondie was the man onstage!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on August 30, 2016, 06:38:08 AM
Has anyone done the VIP soundcheck and meet & greet recently? I'm going to the show on September 30 and it seems the rules can evolve throughout a tour. My main questions: How many items can I get signed (I assume two)? Do they restrict your items to one personal, one giveaway (i.e. poster or GOK lyric sheet)? I would prefer to do two personal items...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 30, 2016, 06:45:03 AM
I, too, was at Syracuse and had a great time.  As usual the band was on fire. An insider mentioned they were tired but it did not show. Brian was not animated at all and the concert was the shortest I've attended in 30 years of BB related concerts. Still, it was a wonderful evening and Herman's Hermits were great, too!


That indeed was a short show. Though, to be fair, for this to have been the shortest show you've attended in 30 years, you would have missed the 2001 Paul Simon tour. Brian's opening set on that tour was much shorter than even this, especially in terms of total time.

I'd also say both Al solo shows (well, one was "Family & Friends") I've seen were shorter than this as well. It's probably also still longer than some of the 28-song setlists the BBs did back in the 80s and 90s when there were more medleys and short surf/car songs instead of some of the longer PS songs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Generation42 on August 30, 2016, 08:33:07 AM
I was at the Syracuse gig, as well.

Being the last in a string of recent shows, I anticipated some of the 'phoning it in' element might creep in, but the musicians were on-point throughout.  The number "Pet Sounds" was well-played and went over particularly well with the crowd.


Other highlights:

- Matt was smooth as ever, vocally.  I never thought Jeff Foskett deserved some of the harsher criticisms he used to get, but I have to admit to now kind of wishing the younger Jardine had taken the iconic falsetto parts during the C50 tour.

- Yes, Blondie was the man.  And damn, is his guitar tone ever sweet.


And the big guys?  I had seen some samplings of the tour from earlier this summer; videos where Al was a little rough, vocally.  Well, he must have been battling a cold or something back then, because last evening, I thought Jardine sounded terrific.

(https://s26.postimg.org/nfsvf3rzd/2016_08_29_Al.jpg)


Brian was Brian.  Vocally, he teetered between sublime and (to be fair)... less so.  This (along with the shortened set) was maybe the one noticeable evidence of what must have been a tired group of fellas.  Still, from his "Good evening Syracuse," to introducing each number, Wilson did engage the audience a little more than I remember him doing so back in 2012 (though this may just be a function of necessity, what with the Love'ster not being there to emcee between cuts).  Brian did his little wiggling fingers thing during the chorus of "Good Vibrations" and, rather than making his "Clap! Clap!" entreaty to the crowd (Dub just looked to the crowd and clapped himself to get the point across), Wilson instead waited until just before the big vocal "Aaaahhhh!" to suddenly command us to "Stop clapping!"  That made me chuckle.

Others' MMV, but I'd say the guy was fairly charming, myself.

(https://s26.postimg.org/5r14nhg89/2016_08_29_Brian.jpg)


The band received a standing ovation after "God Only Knows," and, as he's done before, Brian asked us (twice) to "Please be seated."  Also, maybe three different times during the Pet Sounds set, Wilson almost apologetically promised we'd be "rocking" again soon.  I know we're not quite an English crowd, Brian, but some of us (a lot of us) adore your more introspective work!

---

My only real disappointment?  Yep, you guessed it:  The truncated set list.  Look, I get that last night's show amounted to what is known as a "getaway day" game in baseball.  That, and what the hell do I have to complain about, anyway?  It was Brian Wilson -- and for free(!)  But I so wanted to hear "Our Prayer."  Brian and the rest of the Beach Boys performed "Heroes and Villains" when I saw them in 2012, of course.  But for whatever reason, they skipped "Prayer" that evening.  Hearing these two coupled together would have been sublime.

And, well, this was my first time seeing Brian and Al since C50.  While I knew full well that this was to be a very different thing, I suppose that I naturally (if unfairly) gauged one thing against the other to some degree.

---

But toss all of that aside.  While the magic may not have risen to the level I experienced that June evening four years ago (But then, how could it?), I certainly did have a wonderful, memorable time.

The very best part of it all?  Well, that's easy: Being there with my mom and daughter.  This was my five year-old's first look at Bee-Dub in the flesh, and she had a glorious experience.  Yeah, she was the one who kept gleefully shouting "Brian Wiiiiilson!!!" between numbers.  Apologies to anyone within earshot who may have grown weary of that!  ;D


ETA: http://www.syracuse.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/08/brian_wilson_nys_fair_syracuse_review.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bhw on August 30, 2016, 10:08:21 AM
Hey Jude,

Somehow, I  DID miss the 2001 show.. and it was only an hour away. The Al shows I saw were also 25 songs. I should have typed "among the shortest I have attended."  I hope my post didn't reflect that I distliked the concert  as it was awesome in many ways!!

R. Smith,

Ironic, I also brought my Mom and kids. It was neat to have see this special evening.

On to Buffalo at the end of September!!!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 30, 2016, 10:10:15 AM
Hey Jude,

Somehow, I  DID miss the 2001 show.. and it was only an hour away. The Al shows I saw were also 25 songs. I should have typed "among the shortest I have attended."  I hope my post didn't reflect that I distliked the concert  as it was awesome in many ways!!

R. Smith,

Ironic, I also brought my Mom and kids. It was neat to have see this special evening.

On to Buffalo at the end of September!!!

It's all good; I'm glad you enjoyed the show. I would have been hard pressed to not be at least a little bummed at a shortened setlist. I'd probably guess going into a "Fair" show that it would be shorter. But still a bummer to see a truncated show, but also obviously a treat to see these guys on stage.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Generation42 on August 30, 2016, 10:44:06 AM
R. Smith,

Ironic, I also brought my Mom and kids. It was neat to have see this special evening.

On to Buffalo at the end of September!!!
Right on! :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: nybbfan1 on August 30, 2016, 08:40:11 PM
My daughter and I also saw the State Fair show at Syracuse last night.  This was the third time I've seen Brian in recent years (50th tour at Beacon Theater NY; the Jeff Beck show in 2013 also at the Beacon where Brian surprised us by playing Pet Sounds in its entirety).   Last night band was very strong and persevered through a number of technical problems (did they even get a real sound check in?  Peter Noone played in the afternoon, so when could they have fitted that in?).  Blondie was a revelation and his guitar solos took a much more prominent part  (and his singing stronger) than I remember from 3 years ago.  Al is charming and ageless:  California Saga was a highlight. Brian, however, was much diminished from the previous appearances I've seen.  When did he start this clipped, almost sing-speak style?   Maybe it was intentional - or maybe he couldn't hear himself - but he was singing before or behind the beat, maybe largely because he wouldn't/couldn't hold the notes?  This was especially exposed on several Pet Sounds songs, such as "Here Today" and "Caroline No."   Also,  it was off-putting that this was clearly advertised as a "Pet Sounds" concert but Brian  kept needlessly apologizing for playing Pet Sounds ("we'll get rocking soon", "we'll be rocking in about half an hour" etc).  The audience was very appreciative and there was zero need to make excuses.   Brian did sound much stronger when he was singing with the ensemble, especially on Good Vibrations.  Was Brian's calling Nicky "Stevie Wonder" an inside joke?  (Al did jump in to cover up).   I didn't sense the band being tired, but Brian seemed tired of playing Pet Sounds. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on August 31, 2016, 07:25:00 AM
Updated numerous setlists in the top post, and also added a November 3rd Dubai date.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on August 31, 2016, 10:12:14 AM
My daughter and I also saw the State Fair show at Syracuse last night.  This was the third time I've seen Brian in recent years (50th tour at Beacon Theater NY; the Jeff Beck show in 2013 also at the Beacon where Brian surprised us by playing Pet Sounds in its entirety).   Last night band was very strong and persevered through a number of technical problems (did they even get a real sound check in?  Peter Noone played in the afternoon, so when could they have fitted that in?).  Blondie was a revelation and his guitar solos took a much more prominent part  (and his singing stronger) than I remember from 3 years ago.  Al is charming and ageless:  California Saga was a highlight. Brian, however, was much diminished from the previous appearances I've seen.  When did he start this clipped, almost sing-speak style?   Maybe it was intentional - or maybe he couldn't hear himself - but he was singing before or behind the beat, maybe largely because he wouldn't/couldn't hold the notes?  This was especially exposed on several Pet Sounds songs, such as "Here Today" and "Caroline No."   Also,  it was off-putting that this was clearly advertised as a "Pet Sounds" concert but Brian  kept needlessly apologizing for playing Pet Sounds ("we'll get rocking soon", "we'll be rocking in about half an hour" etc).  The audience was very appreciative and there was zero need to make excuses.   Brian did sound much stronger when he was singing with the ensemble, especially on Good Vibrations.  Was Brian's calling Nicky "Stevie Wonder" an inside joke?  (Al did jump in to cover up).   I didn't sense the band being tired, but Brian seemed tired of playing Pet Sounds. 

It was Al, not Brian, who called Nicky Wonder "Stevie Wonder".  And Nicky replied - I don't think everyone heard it because it was sort of buried amongst laughter - "I'm his whiter cousin".  One of the funniest moments of the show. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on August 31, 2016, 10:26:54 AM
I was at the Syracuse show as well.  I won't talk much about the concert because others have summed it up well.  I'll just say that even though I was expecting a shorter set, I was disappointed at just how short it was.  I know the concert was included in the (very cheap) fair admission, but in addition to the people who were there just because it was a free show, there were also lots of serious fans in attendance.  In my case, we drove over three hours to get there.  So I think when bands assume that the audiences at fair or festival gigs won't contain real fans, they're mistaken.  We talked to lots of nice people who were longtime fans (including a really nice guy with a Carl Wilson Foundation shirt - are you on this board?!)

I really missed a couple of the songs they've been doing on this tour (especially Heroes + Villains) and, oddly enough, one of the things I missed most of all was the band introductions!  Not only is this band is unreal and therefore very deserving of individual introductions, but the way they've been doing it on the tour has been really fun.   

Despite the short set, it was a good show, and it sounded great (especially for an outdoor gig).  I actually thought Brian's voice was pretty good.  In particular, during the first verse of Sloop John B, Al sang lead and Brian did the higher harmony part.  His voice was softer, but man, he nailed it.  He also sounded really good on God Only Knows. 

I'm so lucky I got to see them again!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on September 05, 2016, 04:29:11 PM
The concert at Cliff's Pavilion seems to have only been 26 songs, despite not being a festival show. I really hope that I get to see the full setlist on Friday in Atlanta.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on September 06, 2016, 09:32:47 PM
The concert at Cliff's Pavilion seems to have only been 26 songs, despite not being a festival show. I really hope that I get to see the full setlist on Friday in Atlanta.
Iceland tonight seems to be the truncated 26 song setlist as well...
It's not looking good for Atlanta.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: astroray on September 07, 2016, 06:27:08 AM
The Atlanta show will be the best pen-ultimate Brian Wilson Pet Sounds Show! (because I will be there)!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on September 07, 2016, 06:59:03 AM
The Atlanta show will be the best pen-ultimate Brian Wilson Pet Sounds Show! (because I will be there)!

It's also kinda silly to pre-judge a show at a real venue based upon festival/fair shows.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on September 07, 2016, 12:41:44 PM
Hoping things get longer again before I see him in a few weeks and I hope he's feeing all right.  36-38 songs down to 28 is a big cut.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on September 07, 2016, 03:38:21 PM
The Atlanta show will be the best pen-ultimate Brian Wilson Pet Sounds Show! (because I will be there)!

It's also kinda silly to pre-judge a show at a real venue based upon festival/fair shows.


Iceland was in a real venue. A fairly upscale one, but still a real venue. That's the only reason I'm worried.

(https://image.architonic.com/imgTre/07_11/Henning+Larsen-Harpa-04.jpg) there's a picture of the interior.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 07, 2016, 03:56:40 PM
Wow that looks nice


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 07, 2016, 06:40:29 PM
See you in Atlanta, Ray!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 08, 2016, 06:46:48 AM
Updated the top post with recent setlists.

I wouldn't worry *too* much about the shorter setlists. I don't think he'll all of a sudden stay at a 26-song setlist for the rest of the tour.

The pattern, very roughly, seems to be that they do shorter gigs for festivals and fairs and things like that, and then sometimes that shorter setlist (or at least a still somewhat truncated setlist) carries over for gigs taking place right in that vicinity, even if they aren't the same sort of festival gig.

I'm guessing we'll at least be back to 32-35 songs for the upcoming North America leg for most shows, and potentially still back up to the higher end of 38 songs give or take.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 08, 2016, 08:49:24 AM
Updated the top post with recent setlists.

I wouldn't worry *too* much about the shorter setlists. I don't think he'll all of a sudden stay at a 26-song setlist for the rest of the tour.

The pattern, very roughly, seems to be that they do shorter gigs for festivals and fairs and things like that, and then sometimes that shorter setlist (or at least a still somewhat truncated setlist) carries over for gigs taking place right in that vicinity, even if they aren't the same sort of festival gig.

I'm guessing we'll at least be back to 32-35 songs for the upcoming North America leg for most shows, and potentially still back up to the higher end of 38 songs give or take.

I hope you're right!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on September 09, 2016, 05:15:47 PM
Ushers are saying it'll be 2 hours tonight with no breaks. Seems like 26 is the new standard...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on September 09, 2016, 06:25:09 PM
Ill be going to the St Augustine show tomorrow night, guess we'll see what happens with the set list.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on September 09, 2016, 06:49:21 PM
Totally different setlist. Condensed but honda adn wake the world so far. No heroes.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bill30022 on September 09, 2016, 07:59:13 PM
No Darien tonight. They had his rig set up and when the band had individual spotlights his station as lit.

Paul played keys during SOS and Probyn played some keys during LGAFAW.

My 16 year old daughter enjoyed it more then the McXartney concert. She got a picture with Gary Griffin after the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on September 09, 2016, 10:24:00 PM
Disappointing with the short set but hopefully some great moments packed in there.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jim V. on September 10, 2016, 08:34:26 AM
So according to the setlist site they did "Sail Away" last night? Interesting.

Although, as I saw them do that one last year, I'd much prefer they bring "Funky Pretty" back for tonight in St. Augustine, which I will be attending.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bryand on September 10, 2016, 08:48:54 AM
Yes, Sail Away was back. I was thrilled as this is my favorite NPP track. Blondie was the highlight once again last night as he was in ATL last year.

The harmony blend is not what it used to be without Scott and Darian though. Don't get me wrong, Matt Jardine is incredible but the group as a whole was sounding a bit tired.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thatjacob on September 10, 2016, 09:11:59 AM
Yep. Brian had an good night vocally, but I still feel a tiny bit cheated by the short setlist with no opener. The concert was over by 10:30pm. Still, I think that was the first time that I've seen them perform Little Honda.

edit: Looking at the setlist online, it seems pretty solid. 32 songs isn't bad. I'm being overly cynical for what amounts to 10 minutes worth of music.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on September 10, 2016, 10:19:47 AM
All Summer Long is also gone from the encore set.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on September 10, 2016, 10:20:46 AM
No Darien tonight. They had his rig set up and when the band had individual spotlights his station as lit.

Paul played keys during SOS and Probyn played some keys during LGAFAW.

My 16 year old daughter enjoyed it more then the McXartney concert. She got a picture with Gary Griffin after the show.

Wasn't Billy Hinsche there?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bryand on September 10, 2016, 10:38:48 AM
No Billy Hinsche.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 10, 2016, 10:45:32 AM
All Summer Long is also gone from the encore set.

Oh man...I LOVE ASL :(


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: astroray on September 10, 2016, 02:05:00 PM
Last night at the Fox in Atlanta during the "Wake the World-Add Some Music" 1-2 punch, I shut my eyes it was magic! Can't believe all that music was swirling around and I was alone being covered by the magic! If u have a chance, go see this show, please!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 10, 2016, 02:23:09 PM
"Wake the World"/"Add Some Music" was one of my favorite moments, too. And "Wild Honey," of course! ;D

I was surprised to hear them start with "CA Girls." Brian was quite engaged throughout last night, and he seems to have found a vocal comfort zone. The Jardines were in great voice as always, and Blondie was the consummate rock star, working the crowd.

I'm still trying to absorb this show, too soon to comment almost. My hubby enjoyed it -- that was the first time he'd heard Pet Sounds all the way through (instead of individual songs), and he liked the idea of hearing it done live first. I liked this version of PS live much better than the previous time I heard it in 2000 -- slightly looser and a lot more comfortable. The ever-stellar band ripped the hide off the title track.

It sure doesn't hurt that this all took place in the best venue in Atlanta.


[Edit: spelling correction]


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bryand on September 10, 2016, 02:40:38 PM
I got such a kick out of Little Honda when they all yelled "Go" at the beginning. They really cooked on the rockers last night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 10, 2016, 03:24:12 PM
Atlanta set list, Fox Theatre, Sept. 9, 2016:

California Girls
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World / Add Some Music
California Saga
Sail Away
Wild Honey
Sail On Sailor

Pet Sounds album (no break, they went straight into it)
(with Row Row Your Boat tossed in after IKTAA)

Encore:
Band intros
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love & Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 10, 2016, 04:10:12 PM
I hope they add back Our Prayer/Heroes. It's become an iconic opener at Brian solo shows, really sets the mood.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on September 10, 2016, 04:59:05 PM
problem I found with that, was too many people still walking in and finding seats etc.
really killed the vibe of the intro.  Stupid people. 
why can't people be on time.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 10, 2016, 05:35:03 PM
Sorry to read that it's not just a problem down here.  People in this part of the US always wait until the last minute if not beyond to find their seats. At the show last December H&V was over half completed, and people were still climbing through my row, trying to find their seats without spilling their drinks all over everyone.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 10, 2016, 06:38:57 PM
problem I found with that, was too many people still walking in and finding seats etc.
really killed the vibe of the intro.  Stupid people. 
why can't people be on time.


Sometimes you can be on time but something can happen. At the show I went to last time my daughter had to go to the restroom and the line was extremely long.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 10, 2016, 07:22:58 PM
In Baltimore, "Our Prayer" had no effect because of idiots coming in late...like A LOT of people still stomping in yapping. Last year at Montgomery College, it was sheer perfection. The crowd was totally seated in such a small space...everyone was ready for it and they delivered.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 11, 2016, 12:13:39 AM
Quote
In Baltimore, "Our Prayer" had no effect because of idiots coming in late.

You don't know if they were ALL idiots..ever think that at least a few of them might have got caught in traffic, or maybe something happened in their lives to cause them to be late?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: filledeplage on September 11, 2016, 06:53:37 AM
Atlanta set list, Fox Theatre, Sept. 9, 2016:

California Girls
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby
Wake the World / Add Some Music
California Saga
Sail Away
Wild Honey
Sail On Sailor

Pet Sounds album (no break, they went straight into it)
(with Row Row Your Boat tossed in after IKTAA)

Encore:
Band intros
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love & Mercy

Thanks, Emdeeh! Great set list and delighted to see Sail Away. 

My favorite on NPP.   ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bill30022 on September 11, 2016, 10:27:25 AM
One thing I noticed during the show is that they added some kettles to Nelson's kit midway through the first set.

I talked with the sound guy after the show and he said that some of the equipment did not arrive from Iceland until after the show started.

I do wonder if Billy's absence contributed to the set list (dropping of AASL, for example). They probably had to make other changes to th arrangements on the fly (a roady came out to play the guiro for 'Pet Sounds').

My daughter loves the music but is blissfully unaware of the history. She was hoping to 'Take a Load Off Your Feet' (a childhood favorite) and 'Disney Girls'. She was happy to hear that she was seeing more actual Beach Boys than you would find at a Beach Boys concert.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 11, 2016, 03:12:47 PM
I must have missed something, is Billy Hinsche off the tour? Is this just for a few dates or more permanent?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on September 11, 2016, 05:13:28 PM
Was at the St Augustine show last night. Started off with California Girls, so they dropped Our Prayer and H&V.  Band came on at 8:20. At 10:20 I was already in the car any on my way home, so def a shorter show again. Think it was the identical set list to Atlanta. But nonetheless a great show. Brian a bit rough on a couple Pet Sounds songs early on, he was closer to spoken word compared to singing, but it didn't take anything away from the magic of them.

Loved the bass harmonica on 'I know there's an answer'. Matt Jardine really shined. Blondie was awesome on Wild Honey and Sail on Sailor. He also did Sail Away.

I hope there somehow is another leg of this tour added next year as Id go see this again.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 12, 2016, 06:42:01 AM
If you're getting the 32-song setlist, at least you're not getting the "short" version. It's sort of the middle ground (literally) between the 26-song setlist and the 38-song version.

32 is still about the length of the shows he did last year, and I'd guess a 32-song setlist with the PS in full still clocks in a bit longer than last year's 32-song setlists based on song lengths. 

What is a bit more frustrating is that they're (in a sense) regressing by dropping something like "Funky Pretty" and going back to "Sail Away" which was in all of the setlists last year. I like the idea that they change the setlist as the tour goes along, and even bringing something back that was dropped after last year is an interesting change-up. But I wish they'd realize that many fans saw the shows last year and still haven't had a chance to hear "Funky Pretty." As it stands now, for someone like myself who has seen Brian over a dozen times since 1999, the only thing currently in the setlist that I've never seen Brian perform is "Little Honda."

I think "Sail Away" is by leaps and bounds the best song on NPP. It has always been a bit of a mess on tour; every live performance I've heard (including two in person last year) are fine, but it was always one of the messiest performances. Nobody seemed to be able to figure out who was singing which part, which parts are doubled or overlap, and so on.

It's a bit disappointing to see the setlist get *less* interesting after they've had months and months of rehearsals and performances, during which bands usually find that they can stretch the setlist out more. Maybe they are just tired from a lot of travel and globetrotting and it's easier to fall back on "California Saga" than try to bring back "Honkin' Down the Highway", I dunno.

Maybe at least by October "Monster Mash" will make it back into the setlist?  :3d


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 12, 2016, 09:06:24 AM
Two reviews of the Atlanta show...

AJC:
http://music.blog.ajc.com/2016/09/10/concert-review-brian-wilson-revisits-classic-pet-sounds-at-atlanta-show/

Creative Loafing:
http://www.clatl.com/music/article/20833337/brian-wilson-brought-pet-sounds-to-life-at-the-fox-theatre



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 12, 2016, 06:47:15 PM
Added a December 3 Mexico show and October 31 Switzerland show to the top post schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SonoraDick on September 12, 2016, 08:17:38 PM
Added a December 3 Mexico show and October 31 Switzerland show to the top post schedule.

I know Acapulco's gone way downhill from its glory days, but didn't realize it had dropped all the way to South America!  :-D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 13, 2016, 08:06:03 AM
It appears in Sarasota that they at least added back one additional song, albeit not a terribly exciting one ("Dance Dance Dance"), so that brings it back up to 33 songs.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 13, 2016, 12:00:46 PM
While I'll probably start a separate 2017 tour thread at some point in the future, I've added to the top post a just-announced show for April of 2017 in Vancouver. According to this article, it will still be a "Pet Sounds" show and will still feature Al and Blondie:

http://www.straight.com/blogra/780091/brian-wilson-plays-queen-elizabeth-theatre-april-8

The article says the show will feature the "final performance" of PS, but I think it's quite possible if not likely that this isn't literally the *final* PS show ever. I'm guessing it's the final Vancouver performance, or they're simply conflating the wording of this being the final PS tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 13, 2016, 01:26:43 PM
I was so hoping for a Smile (or a Wild Honey) tour next year. This year's tour is great, but there's that 50th anniversary thing. Still, April leaves a lot of year to go....


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 13, 2016, 01:51:42 PM
There was talk in an article several months ago that they were going to extend the tour into 2017, hitting new markets or doing additional dates in markets that sold out where they couldn't fit additional shows. I don't see a problem with an extension of an anniversary tour going into a second year; it's kind of just one continuous tour. They did "40th Anniversary" PS dates in early 2007.

I'd certainly rather see something else, "Smile" or otherwise. I could envision the PS tour extending through next year and then maybe doing a short "Smile" or some other '67-themed tour near the end of the year, sort of like how they only did a few PS dates for the 40th anniversary in late 2006.

Maybe we'll see a "Smile" tour start in late 2017 and extend into 2018!

It would certainly be cool to hear Al and Matt do some vocals on the "Smile" stuff!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 13, 2016, 02:39:18 PM
It would certainly be cool to hear Al and Matt do some vocals on the "Smile" stuff!

Yes, indeed!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on September 13, 2016, 02:46:38 PM
What Blondie does to Wild Honey is nothing short of amazing.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 13, 2016, 03:37:50 PM
What Blondie does to Wild Honey is nothing short of amazing.

Agreed - I so loved this part of the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: rab2591 on September 13, 2016, 03:41:21 PM
What Blondie does to Wild Honey is nothing short of amazing.

Agreed - I so loved this part of the show.

I went to a PS show last month and I was yet again completely blown away by Blondie's stage presence when he was on. I hope to god he's going to be a regular on tours from now on, and I really hope he's a part of the Rock n Roll album in some form.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 13, 2016, 07:52:30 PM
I'd be absolutely blown away if Brian got on board with a smile tour. The Pet Sounds tour has hit A LOT of markets this year. Sure it can be stretched a bit, but I hope they don't just spend all of 2017 doing the same thing over again, especially if they're hitting any of the same cities.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 14, 2016, 06:14:25 AM
It would certainly be cool to hear Al and Matt do some vocals on the "Smile" stuff!

Yes, indeed!
... And Blondie too!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 14, 2016, 07:16:00 AM
Would be quite interesting to hear Blondie worked into other songs in the setlist. But it appears for whatever reason they don't want to do that much. They apparently quickly dispensed with the potentially brilliant idea of having Blondie sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl", which he did for at least a few shows earlier in the tour.

Brian did two full years of "Smile" tours in 2004 and 2005, so I don't think he *needs* to do that again. I'd rather see him do a tour with a full 35-40 song setlist where he really digs in deep and does a widely-varied setlist (meaning a good 10 or more songs new to the setlist). But my main interest in hearing "Smile" again would be to hear Matt Jardine's superior falsetto on it, and to hear Al in the vocal mix and to perhaps take a few lead vocals spots.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: rab2591 on September 14, 2016, 07:23:35 AM
Blondie sang the bridge to 'Surfer Girl'?? That sounds phenomenal in my mind.

I would love to see Brian take a year off of touring - or at least downsize his touring immensely. Give Brian some time to get back in the studio if he wants, record that rock album with Al, Blondie, and the band. Take to the road every other month for a few shows across the country. Not sure how feasible that is, but I'd love to see both a small tour and an album release next year.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SamMcK on September 14, 2016, 09:30:01 AM
I'd quite like to see a SMiLE show, although i'd LOVE to see Wild Honey or Love You (for the 40th) performed too. ;)

But really, what I want right now is Brian back in the studio recording as many songs as he can. (Without Joe Thomas!) I know that sounds selfish but I'd really love to get as much new material as possible while Brian's still up to it.. which i'm confident he will be for some time left. If anything, it'd be nice to be a record produced by someone like Adam Schlesinger or Andy Partridge.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 14, 2016, 12:08:06 PM
Quote
But really, what I want right now is Brian back in the studio recording as many songs as he can. (Without Joe Thomas!) I know that sounds selfish but I'd really love to get as much new material as possible while Brian's still up to it..

Me too!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 14, 2016, 01:04:06 PM
Okay, perhaps slowly but surely on the setlist....

Last night's appears to have added another song to bring it up to 34; the new-ish addition was "Salt Lake City."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Stephen W. Desper on September 14, 2016, 01:13:00 PM
COMMENT:

Attended the St. Pete, FL show. Billy in hospital in LA they said.  Bringing in a replacement.
Show was sold out. I had a great time. Brian in good spirits. Alan as cordial as ever. Matt, whom I have known since he was a kid, has really developed his talent. Wonderful support to the aging Brian vocal. This time I sat in the balcony with a view of the entire floor of the stage. I thought the lighting was the highlight (pun intended) of the show. Some of the best use of lighting and creative changes I have seen in a long time. Sound mix was also good. Vocals could all be understood. Everyone was in good form. The playlist seemed to grow and grow bringing the energy to an on-your-feet-dancing climax at the end. Brian exited after his solo performance of Love and Mercy at the piano. No, actually they all took a group bow (lead by Blondie) and then Brian went straight to his bus and to bed.
As Alan and I spoke in his dressing room . . . note to those of you who have not attended one of these concerts, you better get to the next one . . . he said he didn't know how much longer they can keep this tour thing up. The shows are sold-out and the money is good, but the body is aging and becoming more tired with each closing. Brian and I are the same age and Alan is a year older at 74. Alan did look beat, but keeps up a good front. I suppose it helps to travel with your wife and son, whereas Brian is alone with only the band as company. I saw them at the same venue last year and they have been on the road almost all the time between those visits. I use to think a two-month long tour was exhausting -- can't imagine something so long.
But then, you know I always say, it's the MUSIC BUSINESS. It's not about the music only. And no one knows that more then the Beach Boy and/or Brian Wilson brand.
~swd

PS -- that last minute addition of Salt Lake City was completely unrehearsed. Brian inserted it only minutes before the show started, so what you heard was on-the-fly. Quite good however. You would never know. ~


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 14, 2016, 01:21:20 PM
Oh no...what's going on with Billy?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Stephen W. Desper on September 14, 2016, 01:32:47 PM
Oh no...what's going on with Billy?

COMMENT to ♩♬ Dr. Billy C ♯♫♩:
I don't wish to spread half-truths, but band members said he had returned to LA and was being treated (unknown). It was not too serious but enough to require the tour to replace him until he recovers. I did not push for details as I don't think anyone really knew any details at the time.  ALL THE BEST TO BILLY H.
~swd 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 14, 2016, 01:39:34 PM
I'll keep him in my thoughts


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on September 14, 2016, 03:15:55 PM
COMMENT:

Attended the St. Pete, FL show. Billy in hospital in LA they said.  Bringing in a replacement.
Show was sold out. I had a great time. Brian in good spirits. Alan as cordial as ever. Matt, whom I have known since he was a kid, has really developed his talent. Wonderful support to the aging Brian vocal. This time I sat in the balcony with a view of the entire floor of the stage. I thought the lighting was the highlight (pun intended) of the show. Some of the best use of lighting and creative changes I have seen in a long time. Sound mix was also good. Vocals could all be understood. Everyone was in good form. The playlist seemed to grow and grow bringing the energy to an on-your-feet-dancing climax at the end. Brian exited after his solo performance of Love and Mercy at the piano. No, actually they all took a group bow (lead by Blondie) and then Brian went straight to his bus and to bed.
As Alan and I spoke in his dressing room . . . note to those of you who have not attended one of these concerts, you better get to the next one . . . he said he didn't know how much longer they can keep this tour thing up. The shows are sold-out and the money is good, but the body is aging and becoming more tired with each closing. Brian and I are the same age and Alan is a year older at 74. Alan did look beat, but keeps up a good front. I suppose it helps to travel with your wife and son, whereas Brian is alone with only the band as company. I saw them at the same venue last year and they have been on the road almost all the time between those visits. I use to think a two-month long tour was exhausting -- can't imagine something so long.
But then, you know I always say, it's the MUSIC BUSINESS. It's not about the music only. And no one knows that more then the Beach Boy and/or Brian Wilson brand.
~swd

PS -- that last minute addition of Salt Lake City was completely unrehearsed. Brian inserted it only minutes before the show started, so what you heard was on-the-fly. Quite good however. You would never know. ~

I'm sorry to hear that Billy is sick.  I hope he recovers soon. 

With respect to the question of getting tired, this is something I've thought about too.  I've been fortunate enough to see this tour several times, starting with an early June date in Vermont, and most recently in Syracuse.  It has occurred to me that to tour like this is gruelling.  I'm a few decades younger than Brian and Al and I don't think I could do it!  So as much as I want them to keep touring forever (I really do), I can't imagine that they will keep this tour going for that much longer.  Surely they must all be ready for a good break by now.  What I really hope is that they are able to take a bit of a break, and then come back (with Al and Blondie) next year and into the future. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rich Panteluk on September 14, 2016, 04:28:12 PM
I just bought tickets to the Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, and Blondie Chaplin show in Vancouver on Saturday April 8, 2017! I got a bit carried away trying to get the best seats so I have two extra pair (both pair are great seats together row 14 and row 16 both in the center orchestra). If anyone is looking for 2 or 4 great tickets send them my way. No scalping, I'm just looking for face value ($300 per pair) plus shipping. Can't wait to see Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, Blondie Chaplin and their fabulous band again. I saw the Hollywood bowl show in July and it was brilliant.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: joe_blow on September 14, 2016, 09:12:43 PM
I just bought tickets to the Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, and Blondie Chaplin show in Vancouver on Saturday April 8, 2017! I got a bit carried away trying to get the best seats so I have two extra pair (both pair are great seats together row 14 and row 16 both in the center orchestra). If anyone is looking for 2 or 4 great tickets send them my way. No scalping, I'm just looking for face value ($300 per pair) plus shipping. Can't wait to see Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, Blondie Chaplin and their fabulous band again. I saw the Hollywood bowl show in July and it was brilliant.
Hi Rich, I sent you an e-mail, I'm really interested!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on September 15, 2016, 06:24:00 AM
Quote
But really, what I want right now is Brian back in the studio recording as many songs as he can. (Without Joe Thomas!) I know that sounds selfish but I'd really love to get as much new material as possible while Brian's still up to it..

Me too!
Thirded! Nothing in the current world of music has the power to excite me like new music by Brian & C - better if actually new, but in absence of that covers will do! *

* As long as it's no more Disney songs. :p


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on September 15, 2016, 08:01:38 AM
My best wishes for a fast and complete recovery to Billy Hinsche!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 15, 2016, 08:28:40 AM
Praying for Billy and wishing him a full recovery!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 15, 2016, 09:25:19 AM
Looks like it was back to a shorter show last night, 31 songs. Perhaps some (not all) casino venues still get a shorter show?

I also wonder if they may be cutting a few songs due to being a band member short; I wasn't aware that Billy had continued to miss shows.

Was Darian originally scheduled to come back earlier? I recall Billy's original Facebook post mentioned months back that he was only filling in up until June 20th, but then obviously he continued into September. I wonder if they might be able to wrestle Darian away from his current commitment to maybe finish out the North American dates through mid-October. Probably not. I wonder if we'll see a familiar face as a fill-in for Billy. Sterling Smith from the old tour band has been filling for Billy in Billy's sideband "California Surf Inc." I wonder if he could fill in for Billy? Maybe Al can bring one of his old keyboard guys in like Tom Jacob?

It's interesting that three of the five guys from the "California Surf Inc" band are currently in Brian's band (counting Billy), so they've been backfilling their band with replacements as well. They currently have Randell Kirsche and Christian Love filling in for Probyn Gregory and Matt Jardine, and then Sterling Smith filling in for Billy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Waspinators on September 15, 2016, 12:59:05 PM
Saw the show in Hollywood, FL last night. Good gig all-around but I did end up feeling a bit let down by the short set and lack of Funky Pretty, Honkin', and WTW/ASMTYD; Darian and Billy were missed as well. Having avoided looking at any setlists until now, I was geared up for a healthy portion of hits and deep cuts during the first set, and ready to dive into Pet Sounds after the intermission. So, I was pretty surprised and a bit confused when Blondie did his thing and Brian goes "Now we're gonna do Wouldn't it be Nice" after just 12 songs. This was my third time seeing Brian (saw him at C50 and with Jeff Beck), and this was definitely the most talkative/animated I've seen him between songs; he also sounded pretty good on the non-PS songs. He definitely seems a tad bored of playing Pet Sounds by now though, with Matt covering a good chunk of his lines (which I didn't mind, he is truly a gifted singer), and rushing through verses in that odd new "talking" Dylan/Nelson-esque style of his that made it a bit difficult to really get into the lyrics. The stage setup was gorgeous, as was the sound and the lighting, and hearing those wacky instrumental passages in HT, IWFTD, LGAFAW and PS fill the room was something else. Really nice hearing Wild Honey, California, and SLC too. Encore was the typical dealio, though Love & Mercy was a nice ending.

This will likely be my last time seeing the big guy unless he does a Smile tour at some point. Even though I've come to expect stuff like this from Brian, I could not believe how fast Brian vanished from the stage after his last line on Caroline, even as the band kept playing. I'm so glad the man is still playing out, not to mention eternally grateful that I got to see him more than once, but I really feel this needs to be his last tour of this scale. This kind of heavy tour schedule and constant traveling can't be too good for him. Either way, very happy I was able to see at least one live Pet Sounds performance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: harrisonjon on September 15, 2016, 01:28:56 PM
I was at Hollywood, FL, and was very impressed (again) by Paul Von Mertens and Matt Jardine; Mertens seems to run the show as arranger, whilst Matt is essentially the lead vocalist when the songs are beyond Brian's capabilities at age 74.

Gary Griffin was a new name and face to me. He started badly IMHO, an unwise choice for the falsetto on Dance, Dance, Dance (seemed way out of tune) but he then did a good support job throughout.

Some unscripted moments: Mertens unhappy that some jerk was texting throughout his set; a momentary panic when the stage monitors failed; Brian saying "shitty" in the intro to GV.

I believe Brian changed the lyrics at least twice ("I miss my house"* in That's Not Me; reference to shooting in L&M).

*However, I had always believed until just now that the correct line was "I miss my pet". That mishearing is also in an article in New York Magazine Aug 28, 1995.

Top 5:

Don't Talk Put Your Head On My Shoulder

Don't Worry Baby

Wild Honey

Surfer Girl (it just is the essential, primal moment for me)

You Still Believe In Me (Matt doesn't just sing this song gorgeously; his emotion makes me hear it anew)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wiggy on September 16, 2016, 01:47:12 PM
Darian is back for the Ryman show in Nashville. I was on a tour of the auditorium just now, and he was working through some arrangements with Gary.

I was at the St Petersburg the other night - great show, by the way! - and Probyn was covering on keys & vibes (amongst everything else he plays!) when Gary was otherwise engaged.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 16, 2016, 04:35:55 PM
Interesting. It'll be interesting to see if Darian stays on for the rest of the dates.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Stephen W. Desper on September 17, 2016, 10:11:07 AM
Interesting. It'll be interesting to see if Darian stays on for the rest of the dates.

COMMENT:  An update of information that I've been able to glean here and there . . .

Billy Hinsche doing good, but will stay in LA for needed rest after his hospital visit.

Gary Griffen (who was in Love & Mercy as one of the studio musicians) brought back to cover for Billy's absence.

Darian Sahanaja has re-joined the band. He had been involved with a prior Disney commitment.

DON'T HESITATE TO SEE THESE SHOWS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO ON FOREVER. AND THEY ARE WELL WORTH THE PRICE OF A TICKET !!


~swd 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on September 17, 2016, 10:30:30 AM
Interesting. It'll be interesting to see if Darian stays on for the rest of the dates.

COMMENT:  An update of information that I've been able to glean here and there . . .

Billy Hinsche doing good, but will stay in LA for needed rest after his hospital visit.

Gary Griffen (who was in Love & Mercy as one of the studio musicians) brought back to cover for Billy's absence.

Darian Sahanaja has re-joined the band. He had been involved with a prior Disney commitment.

DON'T HESITATE TO SEE THESE SHOWS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO ON FOREVER. AND THEY ARE WELL WORTH THE PRICE OF A TICKET !!


~swd 

This. I was at the Ryman last night and am going back tonight and despite the fact that I missed the first half of the show, PET SOUNDS live in THAT venue was magic.  Music like Brian's and the BB's deserves to be performed in legendary halls like the Ryman.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Margarita on September 18, 2016, 07:48:44 AM
Went to the Ryman show last night (9/17).  This was my 26th time seeing Brian since 1999.  While I never saw a show that wasn't good, this was outstanding - extremely high energy from every person on stage.  Brian was having a great time and sounded fantastic. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: c-man on September 19, 2016, 03:47:44 AM

Gary Griffin was a new name and face to me.

I guess you're unaware that Gary toured with the Beach Boys in late '77/early '78 (and is prominently featured on the M.I.U. album), before going on to a long career with Jan & Dean. He also coproduced the Stamos version of "Forever" for Summer In Paradise), and has filled in for both the Mike & Bruce Beach Boys (in 2002) and BW band (2006, 2007, and now 2016). Also, many of the sessions for That's Why God Made The Radio were held at his studio with him engineering (although this was not acknowledged on the CD, I understand it was on the vinyl version).


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on September 19, 2016, 03:49:17 AM
Interesting. It'll be interesting to see if Darian stays on for the rest of the dates.

COMMENT:  An update of information that I've been able to glean here and there . . .

Billy Hinsche doing good, but will stay in LA for needed rest after his hospital visit.

Gary Griffen (who was in Love & Mercy as one of the studio musicians) brought back to cover for Billy's absence.

Darian Sahanaja has re-joined the band. He had been involved with a prior Disney commitment.

DON'T HESITATE TO SEE THESE SHOWS. THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GO ON FOREVER. AND THEY ARE WELL WORTH THE PRICE OF A TICKET !!


~swd 
Thanks Stephen for the info and for reassuring us about Billy. :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: zosobird on September 19, 2016, 04:38:47 AM
Charlotte is tonight! Cant wait!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 19, 2016, 06:07:58 AM
Looks like "Cotton Fields" made a return, and with Darian back they're doing "Darlin'" again. Not exactly the new additions or previous deep cuts ("Honkin'", "Funky") I'd prefer, but at least the setlist is expanding in size slowly.

I would think, especially with having to do PS *every single night*, they'd want to vary the opening set more; for their own amusement if nothing else. As a few reviews have opined, I would agree it wouldn't be surprising if they eventually didn't get a least a *little bit* sick of doing every single PS song every single night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 19, 2016, 06:28:29 AM
Looks like "Cotton Fields" made a return, and with Darian back they're doing "Darlin'" again. Not exactly the new additions or previous deep cuts ("Honkin'", "Funky") I'd prefer, but at least the setlist is expanding in size slowly.

I would think, especially with having to do PS *every single night*, they'd want to vary the opening set more; for their own amusement if nothing else. As a few reviews have opined, I would agree it wouldn't be surprising if they eventually got a least a *little bit* sick of doing every single PS song every single night.

Agreed. I'm hoping they keep Darlin' & Cotton Fields simply for the sake of having something different from the last time I saw them this Tuesday. Sail Away is different from last month too, but that one was a real mess at Montgomery College last year. I'd rather hear Funky Pretty again, since it's such an obscurity live.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 19, 2016, 06:37:22 AM
Looks like "Cotton Fields" made a return, and with Darian back they're doing "Darlin'" again. Not exactly the new additions or previous deep cuts ("Honkin'", "Funky") I'd prefer, but at least the setlist is expanding in size slowly.

I would think, especially with having to do PS *every single night*, they'd want to vary the opening set more; for their own amusement if nothing else. As a few reviews have opined, I would agree it wouldn't be surprising if they eventually got a least a *little bit* sick of doing every single PS song every single night.

Agreed. I'm hoping they keep Darlin' & Cotton Fields simply for the sake of having something different from the last time I saw them this Tuesday. Sail Away is different from last month too, but that one was a real mess at Montgomery College last year. I'd rather hear Funky Pretty again, since it's such an obscurity live.

"Sail Away" has been organizationally the messiest song I've heard them do in the last few years. Not that they were hitting any bad notes or anything, but every 2015 version I saw or heard featured them *still* not being able to figure out which person was supposed to sing which part of the song. So it always ended up sounding messy, though when I saw them opening night last year they seemed to be laughing and having fun biffing the vocal tradeoffs. The only time it hasn't sounded at least a bit like this was for the 2014 PBS Soundstage taping.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on September 19, 2016, 11:44:48 AM
Only stumbled across this. Hollywood Bowl, July 10th. Matt Jardine bringing the house down:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiAWruWefQI


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 19, 2016, 12:20:31 PM
Received an info-email for the Strathmore concert about food, parking, etc.  sounds like a very well-organized venue and I'm quite excited for my first visit.

Worth noting here: it clearly specifies that the performance will be 120 minutes with an intermission. Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't they been glossing over the intermission on this September leg?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Wrightfan on September 19, 2016, 12:58:03 PM
Received an info-email for the Strathmore concert about food, parking, etc.  sounds like a very well-organized venue and I'm quite excited for my first visit.

I went to see Video Games Live there (done by Tommy Tallarico who is Steven Tyler's cousin.) It's a nice, small intimate theatre. Really made for an artist like Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on September 20, 2016, 01:00:14 PM
Boy do I hope Funky Pretty makes a comeback tonight! As epic as this tour has been I'm bummed that Honkin and Hushabye got cut so quickly and now FP


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 20, 2016, 01:44:32 PM
Boy do I hope Funky Pretty makes a comeback tonight! As epic as this tour has been I'm bummed that Honkin and Hushabye got cut so quickly and now FP

Me too. I'm bummed about Our Prayer/Heroes and Villains being cut too. But I'm looking forward to Cotton Fields & Darlin'...assuming they stick around from the weekend. We'll see! As long as I hear some different songs from the Baltimore show I'll be happy!...who am I kiddin'...I'll be happy no matter what! Headin' out soon for... :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: lee on September 20, 2016, 01:45:26 PM
It's a real shame Honkin' got cut so early on. I was hoping it would stay in the setlist throughout the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 20, 2016, 02:08:48 PM
Wondering if "Monster Mash" will reappear in October. At least it would be something different...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: baseball95 on September 20, 2016, 02:44:07 PM
Boy do I hope Funky Pretty makes a comeback tonight! As epic as this tour has been I'm bummed that Honkin and Hushabye got cut so quickly and now FP

Me too. I'm bummed about Our Prayer/Heroes and Villains being cut too. But I'm looking forward to Cotton Fields & Darlin'...assuming they stick around from the weekend. We'll see! As long as I hear some different songs from the Baltimore show I'll be happy!...who am I kiddin'...I'll be happy no matter what! Headin' out soon for... :bw
It looks like last night in NC they went back to Cal Saga. I won't mind hearing Salt Lake City live though never heard that one.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 20, 2016, 09:49:36 PM
First off, I can second that the setlist posted here is 100% accurate. However, he did do "Row your boat" after "Here Today"...

Anyway- this was THE best I've ever seen Brian. He was 1000% on tonight. From the opening notes of "California Girls" to the final chord of "Love and Mercy". This was a completely different Brian from the one I have seen post-C50. He was VERY talkative. He introduced every single song on Pet Sounds with the exception of "God Only Knows" which Alan introduced for Brian. Here's my drive-by review song-by-song...

California Girls- Brian totally nailed it. He was so into it and it was clear instantly that it was going to be a strong night for him.
Dancex3- This was the first time I've heard this band play it at the recorded tempo. It's ALWAYS dragged in the past...even last month.
"Car Songs"- Drums. That's why these don't pop here. John Cowsill just pounds the tar out of the skins on these just like Dennis would have. Brian's band doesn't take as hot and heavy of an approach as they deserve. I wish they'd cut these for tunes that are more akin to their instrumentation.

In My Room- Brian's piano was very prominent. Something I haven't experienced on a song from beginning to end since C50.
Surfer Girl- I was in tears. Brian's voice was so sweet, I could hear his piano plain as day, I had my girlfriend's head on my shoulder. What more could a guy want?
Don't Worry Baby- Matt's voice is so much better than Foskett's. What an upgrade...the crowd goes wild every time too.
Salt Lake City- First time I EVER heard this live by any Beach Boys! Brian was killin' it...he even got a little rock 'n roll growl goin'!

Wake The World- Al Jardine is the fountain of vocal youth. Brian kept saying "and now...the great Al Jardine!" and when he introduced him again later he said "and now, for the nine-thousandth time...!"  :lol
Add Some Music- Brian was so into it and loving it that he sang right over Al's few lines...all is well!
Cotton Fields- It was great to hear this one back in the set. Would be nice if we got this AND California Saga!
Darlin'- Darian hits a homerun on this everytime. He's such a class act...Billy Hinsche added a cool historic vibe like Blondie, but I'm glad to see Darian back up there.

Sail Away- The only song the entire night that fell flat with the crowd. It was much better organized than last year, but it just didn't really catch.
Wild Honey- Earth shattering as always.
Sail on Sailor- Likewise, superb. In the bathroom during intermission two old geezers behind me were complaining about Blondie's guitar being too loud...

PET SOUNDS
-Brian introduced every single song.
-His vocals were lightyears better than Baltimore. The only complaint there would be "You Still Believe in Me" but he gave it his all. I really think he should just let Matt sing this one.
-He introduced "That's Not Me" as: a song about a guy who looked in the mirror one day and said...THAT'S NOT ME! It's called "That's Not Me".
-The band was rushing "I'm Waiting For The Day". They did it in Baltimore too. It's simply too fast.
-He did his "Please Be Seated" after Sloop John B & God Only Knows...as well as In My Room & Surfer Girl in the main set.
-Instead of "so what good would living do me?" he sang "so what the hell would living do me?" on "God Only Knows".
-After "Here Today" he jumped right into Row, Row, Row Your Boat and led the audience from the piano...it was incredibly bizarre.  :lol

ENCORE
-This was probably the most hilarious rock and roll thing I've heard Brian utter on stage and it went like this after the band intros...

Brian: Did you all come out tonight to hear some bad vibrations?
Crowd: No!
Brian: How about some bad...SHITTY...GODAM VIBRATIONS?!
Crowd: NO!!!
Brian: How about...SOME GOOD VIBRATIONS!!!

I was nearly in tears with laughter. His delivery was so unexpected and downright ridiculous and hilarious all at once. I was blindsided.  :lol

Anyway...Brian was REALLY into the rest of the songs in the encore, unlike usual...and sang almost all of them himself with great strength. It was such a great night. Very well worth it. And on top of all that, a very good friend of mind from Beach Boys land did the VIP package and was kind enough to take my Meet-n-Greet photo from C50 which was previously signed by Mike, Bruce, David, and Alan under various circumstances, and complete the set for me with the great...Brian Wilson.  :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 20, 2016, 09:51:02 PM
and by "setlist posted here" I meant HERE: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/the-music-center-at-strathmore-north-bethesda-md-23fd8cd3.html

it's legit!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on September 20, 2016, 10:32:40 PM
I am very glad to hear you got Brian on a good night. The nights I saw him (Friday and Saturday in Nashville ) sound like they were similar in terms of quality.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Scaroline No on September 21, 2016, 05:02:59 AM
Just wondering if anyone else here was at the July 4 show at Massey Hall in Toronto? I thought Brian was great that night, pretty chatty as well, but unfortunately I couldn't make out anything he said due in part to his lack of enunciation, but I also think I may have been in a sound drop zone (side view lower balcony, I could hardly see him :( ). If anyone here heard and remembers what he said, I'd love to know.

I suspect I wasn't the only one having problems understanding his banter though. There was a moment where he said something and almost no one in the audience responded, no clapping, no hollering or anything, just kind of an uncomfortable murmur, lol. I'd love to know what that was about.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 21, 2016, 06:52:11 AM
Brian: Did you all come out tonight to hear some bad vibrations?
Crowd: No!
Brian: How about some bad...SHITTY...GODAM VIBRATIONS?!
Crowd: NO!!!
Brian: How about...SOME GOOD VIBRATIONS!!!
This is awesome   :lol

Thanks for the review, great to hear!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 21, 2016, 07:10:52 AM
When Brian is swearing and is showing a lot of energy on stage, it usually means he's in a good mood and having a really good night.

He was like this all the way back in 2000 when I saw him on the PS tour. He did the "how loud can you yell?" bit, but kept going and eventually was yelling out "how loud can you f*ckin' yell?"


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 21, 2016, 09:14:35 PM
Looks like they've gotten the setlist into a comfy spot, with the only change being the alteration between Cal Saga & Cotton Fields lately...nothin' wrong with that! I feel like if there's one more chance left for deep cuts that aren't currently in the set...it's NYC. I wouldn't be totally shocked by Honkin' & Funky Pretty making comebacks that night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 22, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
When Brian is swearing and is showing a lot of energy on stage, it usually means he's in a good mood and having a really good night.

He was like this all the way back in 2000 when I saw him on the PS tour. He did the "how loud can you yell?" bit, but kept going and eventually was yelling out "how loud can you f*ckin' yell?"

I f*ckin' love when Brian curses in jest. Seriously!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on September 22, 2016, 01:52:35 PM
Hi everyone.

I haven't heard any reports on meet & greets in quite some time.  I just got my e-mail for the Detroit one and it mentions no personal items will be signed.. only the 2 things they give you.

Is that a new thing?

Is it strictly enforced?

Thanks!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 22, 2016, 03:25:41 PM
Hi everyone.

I haven't heard any reports on meet & greets in quite some time.  I just got my e-mail for the Detroit one and it mentions no personal items will be signed.. only the 2 things they give you.

Is that a new thing?

Is it strictly enforced?

Thanks!


I didn't do meet and greet but a friend of mine did. She took my meet-n-greet photo from C50 that I had previously signed by other BB's plus one page of the setlist she got from the Baltimore show and they signed both items no questions asked. They gave her the Pet Sounds poster and sheet music for "God Only Knows" but did not sign them because she had two items with her.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Jonathan Blum on September 22, 2016, 07:18:45 PM
After Strathmore Hall, I think I have a new favourite Brian Wilson show ever -- and I wasn't even there!

I got my parents tickets for my mom's 75th birthday.  My parents are basically the same generation as the Boys themselves -- they've always been a part of their world, it's down to their copies of "Endless Summer" and "Pet Sounds" that I first discovered them.  But the only previous time they got to see Brian in concert was on the Jeff Beck tour, which was a bit more than half a concert...  though what a half-concert that was.  I told that story here at the time...  it was a week after my grandmother's funeral, my wife and I were still in town and found out that Brian was playing, we figured it would be good for the whole family to go...  and that proved to be the catharsis my mom needed.  It was "Sloop John B" that did it -- it reminded her of going sailing with her parents when she was young, and how good her mother was to her but now she was gone and she just wanted to go home...  but by the end of the song she was smiling and applauding and adoring the whole concert.  The music got her through.

It's now one of our most treasured family memories.  So when Brian was back in town near her birthday... I figured they deserved a full concert without the Jeff Beck breaks.  I couldn't make it home from Australia for this, so it'd have to be just the two of them.  I got them tickets the day they went on sale...  but technical difficulties at my end meant that they ended up with nosebleed seats.  Bugger.

Anyway, I told one of the bandmembers the story and asked if maybe they could arrange for "Sloop John B" to be dedicated to my mom, or whether it would be possible to find them better seats.  And they said sorry, the show was sold out...  but there were still places available at the soundcheck...

Long story short -- we got my parents the full soundcheck experience!  Photos, autographs, the lot.  They didn't just get the concert, they got to see the band working up close, with Darian and Al going over which lines of a song went to who (Mom said Al still got it wrong in the show itself!), and the meet-and-greet.  All the extras my wife and I have never actually been able to justify for ourselves, we were able to get for them.  Dad was thrilled, and Mom, well, I think now she wants to adopt most of the bandmembers!

Pretty much since the show ended she's been sending dozens of photos, and email after email of notes and memories from the show.  There's something weirdly joyful about seeing a 75-year-old woman end up typing almost in txtspeak because she's still in fangirl mode:

"Drummer is AMAZING- guess I’m over using the word!
Paul GREAT!
Probyn super talent- wow all those instruments- Paul announced he learned French horn for this concert!
Darian has tall hair- aside from TALENT!!"

It's icing on the cake that, according to all reports, this was an especially good show.  But rather than feeling jealous that I missed it, I'm just basking in the sheer brilliance of Mom and Dad's reflected glow.  By this point, I've seen Brian and company eleven or twelve times over the years (...My God, I've lost count!); I've seen them ranging from an off night to absolutely transcendent.  It gets easy for us fans to take their tremendously high baseline for granted.  And their last trip to Sydney was, for me, a bit of a bum note -- the first show was fairly rough (understandably, it was their third show in four nights with an international hop in between), we missed meeting the bandmembers at the fan gathering between the shows, I wasn't able to get a last-minute ticket to the second show, and the night was marred by some assholier-than-thou fan behavior of the sort I'm only used to reading online rather than experiencing in person.  So there was a part of me that was worrying that those bad vibrations could possibly be my last experience of a Brian Wilson show.

But now?  Seeing the show without seeing it, through the fresh eyes of my mother...  a woman who would never describe herself as a die-hard fan, but still knew almost every song they played, and has been enjoying them for as long as Brian's been writing and playing them...  suddenly I knew all over again just how good this band is. 

So what if I didn't see this show?  I've seen so many great shows with these guys that I can construct pretty much the whole thing note-for-note in my head.  The music is woven through my memories; as the man himself sang at one of the Gershwin shows we were lucky enough to see, they can't take that away from me.  And my mom, untainted by fan overthinking, just got all of her good memories in one hit.

But possibly the best memory I have now is a photo I literally never imagined existing:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/kateorman/MomDadBrian_zpsg9wimzj8.jpg~original)

("Unexpected additions to the lineup for next year's Beach Boys tour, Phyllis and Sam Blum attribute their joining Wilson's re-formed group to the fact that Sam has been proudly rocking the Mike Love 'do for longer than Love has...")

Anyway -- tremendous thanks to everyone in the band for all your help, in making my mom's birthday present more spectacular than she ever imagined!

Cheers,
Jon Blum


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on September 22, 2016, 09:42:28 PM
Thanks for sharing such a superb story! I must admit, I got a bit glossy reading!  :)

I have more experience with concerts associated with family loss than I'd like...but thank God for them. On 11/20 last year I lost a very close uncle and Brian's concert was the only place I needed to be that night. The biggie, was just last month...as I sang "Let it Be" with 20,000+ other McCartney fans at Verizon Center, my grandfather lost his battle with cancer. I took my aunt (his sister-in-law of 56 years and the woman that got me started in music) for the second night and it was probably the most emotional concert experience of my life. It's such a powerful thing. God bless 'em all.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 22, 2016, 11:12:16 PM
After Strathmore Hall, I think I have a new favourite Brian Wilson show ever -- and I wasn't even there!

I got my parents tickets for my mom's 75th birthday.  My parents are basically the same generation as the Boys themselves -- they've always been a part of their world, it's down to their copies of "Endless Summer" and "Pet Sounds" that I first discovered them.  But the only previous time they got to see Brian in concert was on the Jeff Beck tour, which was a bit more than half a concert...  though what a half-concert that was.  I told that story here at the time...  it was a week after my grandmother's funeral, my wife and I were still in town and found out that Brian was playing, we figured it would be good for the whole family to go...  and that proved to be the catharsis my mom needed.  It was "Sloop John B" that did it -- it reminded her of going sailing with her parents when she was young, and how good her mother was to her but now she was gone and she just wanted to go home...  but by the end of the song she was smiling and applauding and adoring the whole concert.  The music got her through.

It's now one of our most treasured family memories.  So when Brian was back in town near her birthday... I figured they deserved a full concert without the Jeff Beck breaks.  I couldn't make it home from Australia for this, so it'd have to be just the two of them.  I got them tickets the day they went on sale...  but technical difficulties at my end meant that they ended up with nosebleed seats.  Bugger.

Anyway, I told one of the bandmembers the story and asked if maybe they could arrange for "Sloop John B" to be dedicated to my mom, or whether it would be possible to find them better seats.  And they said sorry, the show was sold out...  but there were still places available at the soundcheck...

Long story short -- we got my parents the full soundcheck experience!  Photos, autographs, the lot.  They didn't just get the concert, they got to see the band working up close, with Darian and Al going over which lines of a song went to who (Mom said Al still got it wrong in the show itself!), and the meet-and-greet.  All the extras my wife and I have never actually been able to justify for ourselves, we were able to get for them.  Dad was thrilled, and Mom, well, I think now she wants to adopt most of the bandmembers!

Pretty much since the show ended she's been sending dozens of photos, and email after email of notes and memories from the show.  There's something weirdly joyful about seeing a 75-year-old woman end up typing almost in txtspeak because she's still in fangirl mode:

"Drummer is AMAZING- guess I’m over using the word!
Paul GREAT!
Probyn super talent- wow all those instruments- Paul announced he learned French horn for this concert!
Darian has tall hair- aside from TALENT!!"

It's icing on the cake that, according to all reports, this was an especially good show.  But rather than feeling jealous that I missed it, I'm just basking in the sheer brilliance of Mom and Dad's reflected glow.  By this point, I've seen Brian and company eleven or twelve times over the years (...My God, I've lost count!); I've seen them ranging from an off night to absolutely transcendent.  It gets easy for us fans to take their tremendously high baseline for granted.  And their last trip to Sydney was, for me, a bit of a bum note -- the first show was fairly rough (understandably, it was their third show in four nights with an international hop in between), we missed meeting the bandmembers at the fan gathering between the shows, I wasn't able to get a last-minute ticket to the second show, and the night was marred by some assholier-than-thou fan behavior of the sort I'm only used to reading online rather than experiencing in person.  So there was a part of me that was worrying that those bad vibrations could possibly be my last experience of a Brian Wilson show.

But now?  Seeing the show without seeing it, through the fresh eyes of my mother...  a woman who would never describe herself as a die-hard fan, but still knew almost every song they played, and has been enjoying them for as long as Brian's been writing and playing them...  suddenly I knew all over again just how good this band is. 

So what if I didn't see this show?  I've seen so many great shows with these guys that I can construct pretty much the whole thing note-for-note in my head.  The music is woven through my memories; as the man himself sang at one of the Gershwin shows we were lucky enough to see, they can't take that away from me.  And my mom, untainted by fan overthinking, just got all of her good memories in one hit.

But possibly the best memory I have now is a photo I literally never imagined existing:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y165/kateorman/MomDadBrian_zpsg9wimzj8.jpg~original)

("Unexpected additions to the lineup for next year's Beach Boys tour, Phyllis and Sam Blum attribute their joining Wilson's re-formed group to the fact that Sam has been proudly rocking the Mike Love 'do for longer than Love has...")

Anyway -- tremendous thanks to everyone in the band for all your help, in making my mom's birthday present more spectacular than she ever imagined!

Cheers,
Jon Blum

Amazing story.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 24, 2016, 10:46:02 AM
Tower Theater, Philly September 23rd 2016 show: Incredible. Don't miss this tour. This was a good of a show as I've seen.

Some photos:

Packed house, sold-out crowd at the Tower.
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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 24, 2016, 11:03:48 AM
That was an AMAZING story, Jonathan! Thank you for sharing!


Craig, those are some great photos. 8)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on September 24, 2016, 11:49:19 AM
Great pics.

Brian, Al and Blondie looking great.

So good to see Darian back; hope he makes it to London.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Scaroline No on September 24, 2016, 11:57:03 AM
Wow! Thank you for sharing your photos!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: beatle608 on September 24, 2016, 12:08:11 PM
Hi everyone.

I haven't heard any reports on meet & greets in quite some time.  I just got my e-mail for the Detroit one and it mentions no personal items will be signed.. only the 2 things they give you.

Is that a new thing?

Is it strictly enforced?

Thanks!


If that is the case, then wow. That is absurd. A person spends $500 and they can't even get a thing or two from their own collection signed!? Pure greed.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 24, 2016, 02:04:13 PM
Thanks for the fabulous pictures, Craig! Looks like it was a great night for everyone who was there. How was Brian?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 24, 2016, 02:33:05 PM
Thanks for the fabulous pictures, Craig! Looks like it was a great night for everyone who was there. How was Brian?

Agreed! Thanks for the amazing photos.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 24, 2016, 05:26:57 PM
Thanks for the fabulous pictures, Craig! Looks like it was a great night for everyone who was there. How was Brian?

Agreed! Thanks for the amazing photos.



You're welcome! I'm more than happy to share them and appreciate others doing the same for shows they attend.

Brian was "on" Friday night, there was an energy literally from the first song that went throughout the whole night. It felt like the band and Brian were not only having fun, but giving it their all. It's hard to describe but you could feel something really charged up in the air from the beginning. Pet Sounds was triumphant. And, the crowd was all-in, they gave appreciation and that energy back to the stage and it was really quite a night in a classic Philly venue. Lot of history there, and a certain vibe too.

This is a review posted by Philly station WXPN of the show. It nails it. Reliving the magic indeed. Has more photos at the link too:

http://thekey.xpn.org/2016/09/24/reliving-the-magic-with-brian-wilson-at-the-tower-theater/ (http://thekey.xpn.org/2016/09/24/reliving-the-magic-with-brian-wilson-at-the-tower-theater/)

Setlist courtesy WXPN also at the link:

California Girls
Dance, Dance, Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Coupe
Little Honda
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don’t Worry Baby
Salt Lake City
Wake the World
Add Some Music to Your Day
California Saga: California
Darlin’
Sail Away
Wild Honey
Sail On, Sailor

Pet Sounds Album

Encore:
Good Vibrations
Help Me, Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin’ U.S.A.
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love and Mercy


(personal note - Some of those songs were as good if not better than I had ever heard them performed. Sail On Sailor was as good as it gets. No one does it like Blondie.)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on September 24, 2016, 05:49:23 PM
The Big Guy has been killing it on this run, hasn't he?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 24, 2016, 07:51:49 PM
Partial Beacon NYC setlist here ( http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2016/beacon-theatre-new-york-ny-63fdf6fb.html ) suggests Our Prayer/H&V may have resurfaced tonight. Hoping it's true and someone didn't just cut and paste from an old setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 24, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
That was an AMAZING story, Jonathan! Thank you for sharing!


Craig, those are some great photos. 8)

In the am or the PM please.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on September 25, 2016, 12:41:51 AM
Starting with "Here today":

The Brian Wilson Band --- Hard Rock Live, Hollywood FL 9/14/2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8QEAL9sOc8


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Rocker on September 25, 2016, 12:55:09 AM
When Brian is swearing and is showing a lot of energy on stage, it usually means he's in a good mood and having a really good night.

He was like this all the way back in 2000 when I saw him on the PS tour. He did the "how loud can you yell?" bit, but kept going and eventually was yelling out "how loud can you f*ckin' yell?"

I f*ckin' love when Brian curses in jest. Seriously!



You do? Check this out ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7eZTbmCxVs


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 25, 2016, 02:09:49 AM
I *love* what Brian did on this song, esp at the end...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6-1ntMsSiY


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 25, 2016, 03:58:18 AM
I *love* what Brian did on this song, esp at the end...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6-1ntMsSiY

Thanks!  Me, too.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 25, 2016, 04:08:12 AM
The Big Guy has been killing it on this run, hasn't he?

It sure looks that way!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on September 25, 2016, 09:52:53 AM
When Brian is swearing and is showing a lot of energy on stage, it usually means he's in a good mood and having a really good night.

He was like this all the way back in 2000 when I saw him on the PS tour. He did the "how loud can you yell?" bit, but kept going and eventually was yelling out "how loud can you f*ckin' yell?"

I f*ckin' love when Brian curses in jest. Seriously!



You do? Check this out ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7eZTbmCxVs

 ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 25, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
When Brian is swearing and is showing a lot of energy on stage, it usually means he's in a good mood and having a really good night.

He was like this all the way back in 2000 when I saw him on the PS tour. He did the "how loud can you yell?" bit, but kept going and eventually was yelling out "how loud can you f*ckin' yell?"

I f*ckin' love when Brian curses in jest. Seriously!



You do? Check this out ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7eZTbmCxVs

 ;D

What's charming about it all is that I think he feels daring when he does it.  He has this sweetness, along with a wicked humor side that pretty much engages everyone - well, who isn't jealous.  There's that problem.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Senator Blutarsky on September 25, 2016, 12:30:44 PM
Took me a little while, but Ive uploaded all the clips I took with my phone at the Sept. 10th St Augustine show  to youtube if anyone wants to check them out.


Wild Honey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvJIex4Qt0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFvJIex4Qt0)

Wouldn't it be Nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlX__8TuXac (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlX__8TuXac)

You Still Believe In Me  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7685M4w_Ksg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7685M4w_Ksg)

Don't Talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw2czULrrU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUw2czULrrU)

I'm Waiting for the Day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22OKCfD7VEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22OKCfD7VEQ)

Sloop John B ( 2 parts) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DAFr2EhMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1DAFr2EhMw)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBz2QjmxHJw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBz2QjmxHJw)

God Only Knows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ya7OBD53Nk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ya7OBD53Nk)

I Know There's an Answer  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKSp2rzuECk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKSp2rzuECk)

Caroline No https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQIl59nYuI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BQIl59nYuI)

Good Vibrations https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y811UcCa_6Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y811UcCa_6Q)

Barbara Ann https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zqZe7wf8AI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zqZe7wf8AI)

Love & Mercy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxpbVGYVINY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxpbVGYVINY)









Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 25, 2016, 02:39:51 PM
Thank you, Sen. Blutarsky!

Has anyone found a YouTube vid of "Wild Honey" from the Atlanta show on Sept. 9th? I've been seeking, but so far, no luck.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on September 26, 2016, 05:24:33 AM
If that is the case, then wow. That is absurd. A person spends $500 and they can't even get a thing or two from their own collection signed!? Pure greed.

It's disappointing, but I'm not seeing the additional greed in it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 26, 2016, 11:41:12 AM
If that is the case, then wow. That is absurd. A person spends $500 and they can't even get a thing or two from their own collection signed!? Pure greed.

It's disappointing, but I'm not seeing the additional greed in it.

Agreed.  I'm seeing people posting photos showing personal items that have been signed up through last night around the net, so I'm guessing this is a non-issue - but greed? - even if you'd be limited to the stuff included in the package - well, it's included in the package.  How could that be logically considered greed?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 26, 2016, 12:19:32 PM
We've discussed "VIP Packages" in the past. I have very mixed feelings about it. I personally find it weird to pay money, to have my card charged, specifically for the privilege of getting to meet someone. I don't tend to do those VIP things; can't particularly afford it and I'm not super into needing to meet these guys. Get an interview with them? I'd love to do that! Awkwardly stand in line to say hi and get an autograph for a significant upcharge? Not my thing particularly. For those who dig it, that's cool.

It sounds like the "rules" for autographs at these VIP show events are much like "in-store signings." The rules are sometimes less or more loose, and sometimes they don't want people bringing outside stuff and either slowing things down or, in the case of a record store signing or something, they want people to buy whatever the new product is.

I imagine there isn't a huge market for *successfully* flipping Brian or Al autographs. They're just not that rare, unless the item is really epic or rare itself (and I'd argue if you had like an original "Smile" cover slick or something and had Brian sign it, it might actually *devalue* it, but I digress). So I would certainly hope they let people get a few things or whatever sort signed, within reason.

I don't think we should necessarily rant about greediness on the part of artists, but the "VIP" thing certainly isn't my *favorite* thing they do. I'm not a big fan of it. I get why artists do it. It's easy money, a huge surcharge for relatively little extra work. They already do a soundcheck anyway, so that isn't extra effort. They really just have to take the time to do the meet and greet thing. It's *a lot* of extra money. Good for them. I guess I don't need to call them greedy, but it's certainly not something I'm going to pat them on the back for.

Didn't Brian used to hang around after shows and sign autographs? That's worth some extra praise. Offering deluxe VIP packages? I'm pretty neutral on that.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 26, 2016, 12:47:49 PM
Added a March 29, 2017 New Orleans show to the top post schedule.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: NOLA BB Fan on September 26, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
Ooh, ooh. You made my day.
Figured he might make it down to New Orleans but feared he'd be at JazzFest again.
The Saenger Theater is our "crown jewel" venue. Incredible acoustics, absolutely gorgeous.
Now I might even cave in to my Mom's pleas to watch that horrid presidential debate tonight!   ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 26, 2016, 02:19:33 PM
It's certainly starting to look like they might end up doing a full-on additional leg of touring early Spring-ish next year.

It'll be interesting to see how many show are in markets/venues he didn't hit this year versus return visits. Probably of course both. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 26, 2016, 02:54:28 PM
Hopefully he'll come to Houston!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on September 27, 2016, 04:31:33 AM
I apologize for starting any confusion.. it's possible I just read my e-mail too fast.

I just went back to it today and it says "Personal memorabilia may not get signed in addition to package contents."

Clearly this means, to me, that we can have personal stuff signed, just not AS WELL AS the other stuff they give you.
Meaning, these guys aren't going to sign everything you want--which makes total sense.

Sorry.. my show is coming up Friday and I bought the tickets in late January.. So I've been thinking about
meeting Brian all year.. When my e-mail came I just apparently zoned in on that one line and jumped to
the wrong conclusion.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 27, 2016, 08:43:32 AM
I apologize for starting any confusion.. it's possible I just read my e-mail too fast.

I just went back to it today and it says "Personal memorabilia may not get signed in addition to package contents."

Clearly this means, to me, that we can have personal stuff signed, just not AS WELL AS the other stuff they give you.
Meaning, these guys aren't going to sign everything you want--which makes total sense.

Sorry.. my show is coming up Friday and I bought the tickets in late January.. So I've been thinking about
meeting Brian all year.. When my e-mail came I just apparently zoned in on that one line and jumped to
the wrong conclusion.

In the same boat and read it (or misread it) the same way. I'll be bringing a personal item (or two), as I've heard some people say they were able to swap two personal items for the two giveaways. During the No Pier Pressure tour, the rule was you got the Love & Mercy lyric sheet signed and one additional "small" item.

I'll be sure to give a full review of the soundcheck, VIP meet & greet and the show. In my opinion, if you are smart, the VIP option is a good value (at worst, it's a break even proposition)--I would be happy to share my math via PM if anyone is on the fence about buying the VIP experience for an upcoming show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on September 27, 2016, 02:00:39 PM
Added a March 29, 2017 New Orleans show to the top post schedule.

Wonder how you can get in on the pre-sale?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 27, 2016, 02:09:26 PM
Added a March 29, 2017 New Orleans show to the top post schedule.

Wonder how you can get in on the pre-sale?

Brian's website often (but probably not always) posts links and notices about pre-sales.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sound of Free on September 27, 2016, 10:10:10 PM
Saw Brian tonight at Oakdale in Wallingford, Conn. I had seen him solo in 2000, 2001 (full Pet Sounds) and 2012 as part of C50. In 2012, Brian was in very good voice singing and sang a lot of leads, but I don't think he said a single word. Obviously Mike was the MC of that show, but Al talked a fair amount and David and Bruce spoke a little, but Brian never talked. I guess he loosened up on the tour.

Tonight, Brian's vocals were very rough and strained in spots, and a couple of times he missed words, but he talked a lot and seemed in a good mood.

The setlist (I believe) was:

California Girls
Dance Dance Dance
I Get Around
Shut Down
Little Deuce Couple
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry Baby (Matt NAILED it, and got a huge ovation)
Salt Lake City (one of Brian's best vocals of the night, I thought)
Wake The World
Add Some Music to Your Day (again, one of Brian's best)
California Saga: California
Sail Away (I thought it was very good, but a lot of people made a bathroom break)
Wild Honey (Blondie wailing on guitar, very entertaining)
Sail on Sailor (Brian walked off for intermission during the song. Don't know if that's normal)

INTERMISSION

Row, Row, Row Your Boat (good doing it here as people were getting back into their seats from intermission)
Wouldn't It Be Nice (Matt great on Brian's part; Brian OK on Mike's)
You Still Believe in Me (Matt again very good)
That's Not Me (Nice by Brian, including the into: A guy looks in the mirror and says ""THAT'S NOT ME. He also sang it like that once)
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
I'm Waiting For the Day
Let's Go Away For a While
Sloop John B (A loose Brian intro'd it as "something Al Jardine and I cooked up")
God Only Knows
I Know There's An Answer (maybe the best song, both Jardines in great form)
Here Today
I Just Wasn't Made For These Times (part Brian, part Matt)
Pet Sounds (Blondie came out and hammed it up on tambourine)
Caroline No (again, part Brian, part Matt, again Brian walked out early as the band was playing out the song)

Good Vibrations -- no cursing, but Brian asked if we wanted "Bad" or "Lousy" Vibrations. Good job by Brian,
Help Me Rhonda -- It's AMAZING how well Al's voice has aged. He sounded great all night.
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun Fun Fun
Love and Mercy -- Brian altered the lyrics a lot, but sang it well with a lot of feeling. Great way to end.

One surprise to me. No Darian, and no Billy Hinsche in his place. Instead it was Debbie Shair on keyboards. Paul Von Mertens said she played with Heart -- "Another Wilson band," as Paul put it. So no Darian, no "Darlin'".

I'm sure we all forgive Brian for vocal shortcomings we wouldn't let slide in other artists, but he deserves a pass. But it was a great show, and it's Brian Wilson and it's "Pet Sounds" -- and a whole lot of other good songs. The band obviously loves him, Blondie seemed like the happiest guy on the tour, and the Jardines are both tremendous.

If this winds up being the last time I see Brian, I will count myself very lucky to see the big man four times. My Brian live many more years. His music will live forever.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: bringahorseinhere? on September 28, 2016, 01:19:11 AM
in my opinion, Brian's vocals have terribly degraded since the start of the tour.  more flubs, missed words, unclear, and
different vocal phrasing and adlibbing.  He is probably tired and maybe bored at this point.
really found is strange they have added more dates to the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 28, 2016, 08:52:44 AM
What I don't get is that if there's a "boredom" issue going on, and there's no way around not playing all 13 PS songs, then why are they keeping the first set so stagnant? They've actually reverted back to a less interesting setlist than the beginning of the tour, dropping "Funky Pretty" and going back to "Sail Away" for instance.

They've had Blondie in the band on and off for three years now and haven't found something else for him to sing or do?

I'm a few weeks out from my show, and I'm sure it will be a transcendent experience. But I do wish they'd work a little more on the setlist and change things up a bit. They could change up some of Al's or Blondie's stuff if Brian doesn't feel comfortable changing his tracks up.

Still wondering if "Monster Mash" will return some time in October.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on September 28, 2016, 09:17:41 AM
Presale code for NOLA show is "NICE".  I got three tickets.  Will be my second time seeing him this tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 28, 2016, 09:35:28 AM
in my opinion, Brian's vocals have terribly degraded since the start of the tour.  more flubs, missed words, unclear, and
different vocal phrasing and adlibbing.  He is probably tired and maybe bored at this point.
really found is strange they have added more dates to the tour.


I had the pleasure and what I consider one of the rock and roll experiences of my lifetime to see two PS 50 shows this past weekend. I saw none of what you're describing, and from all of the fan reviews both posted and discussed in conversation personally, fans were pretty universal in saying this past week in particular was a spectacular run of shows where everything was "on". Brian was "on", and the band was as tight and as energetic as I've seen them despite being on a run of one-nighters in different cities. They were anything but bored - and Brian's performances included some songs in that first set that were as good as both myself and other fans speaking from experience were as good as we've heard. No hype, no hyperbole - Just read the reviews and add our personal observations to those. It has been a terrific run over the past week. No boredom from anyone I saw.

I have to ask - Have you seen any recent shows that led to these observations? To be blunt, those comments were the distinct opposite of what I saw and heard up-close.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: petsoundsnola on September 28, 2016, 09:40:20 AM
Presale code for NOLA show is "NICE".  I got three tickets.  Will be my second time seeing him this tour.

Thank you so much for the code!!!

I got two tickets -so excited that Brian is playing this venue in my hometown.  It is a beautiful theater!

WHO DAT!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on September 28, 2016, 11:23:51 AM
in my opinion, Brian's vocals have terribly degraded since the start of the tour.  more flubs, missed words, unclear, and
different vocal phrasing and adlibbing.  He is probably tired and maybe bored at this point.
really found is strange they have added more dates to the tour.


I had the pleasure and what I consider one of the rock and roll experiences of my lifetime to see two PS 50 shows this past weekend. I saw none of what you're describing, and from all of the fan reviews both posted and discussed in conversation personally, fans were pretty universal in saying this past week in particular was a spectacular run of shows where everything was "on". Brian was "on", and the band was as tight and as energetic as I've seen them despite being on a run of one-nighters in different cities. They were anything but bored - and Brian's performances included some songs in that first set that were as good as both myself and other fans speaking from experience were as good as we've heard. No hype, no hyperbole - Just read the reviews and add our personal observations to those. It has been a terrific run over the past week. No boredom from anyone I saw.

I have to ask - Have you seen any recent shows that led to these observations? To be blunt, those comments were the distinct opposite of what I saw and heard up-close.

For what it's worth, the crooner tone on the PS songs definitely are deliberate and, IMHO, add something fresh to the performance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on September 28, 2016, 11:52:50 AM
Quote
in my opinion, Brian's vocals have terribly degraded since the start of the tour.  more flubs, missed words, unclear, and
different vocal phrasing and adlibbing.  He is probably tired and maybe bored at this point.
really found is strange they have added more dates to the tour.

Oddly, I've noticed just the opposite from the videos online, like the past 2 months have been much better than the start of the tour.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on September 28, 2016, 12:57:39 PM
I attended the show in Easton on Sunday; if you were there, guitarfool, I would have liked to have met up!

This was my first BW solo gig, after attending two C50 gigs previously. The wife, who was less than enthusiastic going into it, was smiling and dancing (when appropriate) the whole time. She was actually rather agitated that so many people just sat completely still in their seats during so many songs. HOW CAN YOU SIT STILL DURING "DANCE DANCE DANCE"???!?!?!

So yeah, boring crowd. I tried to make up for it by screaming my bloody head off after Wake the World and Add Some Music, which most people clearly didn't recognize and barely received any applause. I have avoided this thread (and setlists generally) in the hopes of surprising myself, and Wake the World and Add Some Music really made my night. The house was dark, the crazy piano chords for "Wake the World" filled the air... so special. SO FLIPPIN SPECIAL.

Wait-- holy crap, Darian's "Darlin'" blew my mind, too. He sounded so much like Carl at some points-- and not at others, but Carl is a tough act to follow -- that I kept closing my eyes to pretend. That guy's amazing.

"Sail Away" rocked live, I'm glad we got something newer than "Love & Mercy" in the set. First time hearing L&M live. Is Every L&M different? It just seemed so personal, so of-the-moment and so special, that I felt like that was *our* version.

Man, I wish Blondie had more to do. But it made the missus and I smile every time he loped onto the stage, whether for guitar and vocals or just some tambourine pyrotechnics. That's what this band needed! Some high energy from a bona fide rock star. Nicky Wonder has some flash, but Blondie! They must limit his appearances in order to prevent him from stealing the show all night long.

Al was Al, and I love him all the more for it. Corny, calm, steady. Pleasant.

Brian. Brian was either having a great time, or was feeling up to making it seem like he was. Either way, I kick myself for not taking advantage of every opportunity to see him live in the past. He missed cues, yes. His delivery on his Pet Sounds leads was that weird, breathy lounge thing. We cringed a few times, but I already knew what to expect, as did the wife. It made the experience bittersweet, much like the album itself. I was a little sad that Brian wasn't what he was 50 years ago, but since that's a ridiculous thing to expect, I just got over it. In the end, our hearts were filled to bursting.

Brian was funny, and made us laugh quite a bit. The "That's Not Me" bit made us lol, and the "Did you come to hear 'Bad' Vibrations? Or did you come to hear 'Silly' Vibrations? How about 'Good' Vibrations?" did, too. He almost skipped over Pet Sounds (instrumental), and after a gentle, sweet reminder from Darian, blamed it on his teleprompter guy. Gold. I didn't take my phone out once, but I wish I had a HD recording of the show and a soundboard boot. I don't want to forget a thing.

The band had a few moments where things didn't go quite perfectly, and I heard a few bum notes on a few harmony blocks that weren't Brian or Al. Matt Jardine was the wife's favorite, and I definitely enjoy his falsetto more than Foskett's.

 JESUS what a band, what a show. I was satisfied, and left wanting more. It actually made me want to catch the M&B Beach Boys the next time they play the local Elks lodge.

Cheers!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 28, 2016, 01:34:39 PM
So, the songs that have been performed on the tour this year but not currently in the rotation are:

Honkin' Down the Highway
Funky Pretty
Hushabye
Monster Mash
Then I Kissed Her
Cotton Fields (though this was performed recently, swapped out with "California Saga")
All Summer Long
Do It Again
Our Prayer/Heroes and Villains (though this returned for a gig recently)
Marcella (only performed once in the UK?)
Do You Wanna Dance (performed for a short run in July)
Catch a Wave (a few times in August)
You're So Good To Me
Girl Don't Tell Me (a few shows in May/June)
One Kind of Love

plus the little song snippets (River Deep, etc.)

I'm may be forgetting a few as well.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on September 28, 2016, 04:14:32 PM
I was at the Wallingford, CT Tuesday night show.  Great show! Glad I saw this tour. No Darian, so no Darlin which I was definitely hoping for. They had a female keyboard player who had spent time touring with Heart. Can't remember her name.  Brian was relaxed right from the start and into the performance.  Either he or Al introduced every song. Brian introduced Al in a very genuine and caring way. He was very appreciative of Al and Matt throughout the night. Both Brian and Al were in great voice throughout the night. Sail Away sounded much better than I expected. Blondie was cool, but the Wild Honey guitar solo was way too long.

Still miss Al on WIBN. Some amazing moments in the Pet Sounds set.  The weakest Brian lead was YSBIM.  That might be cool to have Al and Matt do that one together.  Brian impressed me on many others especially That's Not Me and I'm Waiting for the Day . Brian introduced Sloop by saying this was an arrangement he and Al came up with about half a century ago. Made me chuckle. IKTAA was amazing as was I Just Wasn't Made for These Times. Encore really really rocked. Brian and Al traded off a lot of the leads. Al forgot to come in on the second verse of Barbara Ann which was funny.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 28, 2016, 06:34:58 PM
A quick look at YouTube clips from last night and some googling of the Heart connection shows the keyboardist may be Debbie Shair, who also appeared earlier this year at that Wild Honey Orchestra show that many Brian cohorts appeared at.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on September 28, 2016, 06:42:46 PM
Yes that's her.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sound of Free on September 28, 2016, 07:02:21 PM
A quick look at YouTube clips from last night and some googling of the Heart connection shows the keyboardist may be Debbie Shair, who also appeared earlier this year at that Wild Honey Orchestra show that many Brian cohorts appeared at.

I guess my post on the previous page was so long that no one got to the bottom of it.  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on September 28, 2016, 07:27:08 PM
ha ha ha sorry about that, I missed that part about your post.

I think Brian sounds better than when I heard him circa 2005, less shouty. I like his singing more now. He definitely misses some lines and slurs very wordy vocals but I like that his voice is softer and more controlled.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 29, 2016, 06:08:23 AM
A quick look at YouTube clips from last night and some googling of the Heart connection shows the keyboardist may be Debbie Shair, who also appeared earlier this year at that Wild Honey Orchestra show that many Brian cohorts appeared at.

I guess my post on the previous page was so long that no one got to the bottom of it.  :lol

I do apologize, that can be annoying. I was probably thrown off because someone posted a detailed review of the previous show in Easton (which included Darian) after you posted your detailed review of the next night's show without Darian, so I didn't look back behind the Easton review looking for Wallingford reviews.

But I appreciate all show reviews; I started this thread, and it definitely relies on folks reporting on shows. It truly is much appreciated. Even when phone browsing, I'll do my best not to skim things.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bhw on September 29, 2016, 06:48:32 AM
University of Buffalo Wednesday night

someone will chime in with setlist. It was very similar to the night prior.

The concert was awesome!  The crowd was treated to a very animated and vocal Brian. He sounded great - strong voice, sweet voice, holding all notes!  A world of difference from the Syracuse show one month prior. Al was his awesome self and blondie rocked the house.   Al band members were suburb. The aforementioned girl was on keys and did a very nice job.

Buffalo was treated to an excellent night of Pet sounds, indeed!!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: WonderfulLittlePad on September 29, 2016, 08:02:46 AM
Anybody know what Darian's schedule for the remaining part of the tour should be?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 29, 2016, 08:38:42 AM
Anybody know what Darian's schedule for the remaining part of the tour should be?

I don't know Darian's schedule, but it appears that his recent return was not planned and was a result of Billy Hinsche having to leave. They apparently went with no fill-in for a few shows, then Darian returned and my 100% total guess is that he only came back temporarily until they could find (and perhaps Darian could help "train") another keyboardist.

As mentioned awhile back, Billy Hinsche was originally only slated to fill-in for Darian through the June 19th show, but then when the tour resumed at the end of June, Billy was still there and remained until earlier this month. I don't know if Darian was originally scheduled to return at the end of June, or if they were planning on getting yet *another* replacement at that time. I would guess the original plan was for Darian to return, but he wasn't able to, and Billy was able to continue to fill in.

Considering the main "North American" leg of the tour ends in a couple of weeks, I would guess Darian probably won't be back in October. Who will reappear for the October/November/December gigs outside the US is anybody's guess at the moment.  

This is probably a pretty common thing for a band that is doing *extensive* touring (the schedule has to be at or near 100 shows at this point) in a given year when they are not normally on a round-the-clock contract/retainer all year long with Brian. Whereas, say, Mike Love's guys rarely are missing because they have a year-long, year-after-year schedule and thus don't need to take other engagements, the members of Brian's band on typical years are usually doing other things, and clearly at least in Darian's case he wasn't able to clear the entire year to tour because of other commitments. This year's near full-time schedule between March and October is a relatively rare thing for Brian.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on September 29, 2016, 08:48:32 AM
I am astounded by the number of shows he's doing this year. Brian's turning into quite the road warrior, isn't he?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on September 29, 2016, 09:08:55 AM
I'll be sad if Darian isn't in Minneapolis Sunday.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 29, 2016, 09:22:09 AM
Could you sit in for him if he is not? ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on September 29, 2016, 09:26:15 AM
I'm fully capable of sitting, yes. Performing? There might be a slight differential in quality of performance!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 29, 2016, 09:46:41 AM
Hehe :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: rab2591 on September 29, 2016, 10:35:34 AM
I attended the show in Easton on Sunday; if you were there, guitarfool, I would have liked to have met up!

This was my first BW solo gig, after attending two C50 gigs previously. The wife, who was less than enthusiastic going into it, was smiling and dancing (when appropriate) the whole time. She was actually rather agitated that so many people just sat completely still in their seats during so many songs. HOW CAN YOU SIT STILL DURING "DANCE DANCE DANCE"???!?!?!

So yeah, boring crowd. I tried to make up for it by screaming my bloody head off after Wake the World and Add Some Music, which most people clearly didn't recognize and barely received any applause. I have avoided this thread (and setlists generally) in the hopes of surprising myself, and Wake the World and Add Some Music really made my night. The house was dark, the crazy piano chords for "Wake the World" filled the air... so special. SO FLIPPIN SPECIAL.

Wait-- holy crap, Darian's "Darlin'" blew my mind, too. He sounded so much like Carl at some points-- and not at others, but Carl is a tough act to follow -- that I kept closing my eyes to pretend. That guy's amazing.

"Sail Away" rocked live, I'm glad we got something newer than "Love & Mercy" in the set. First time hearing L&M live. Is Every L&M different? It just seemed so personal, so of-the-moment and so special, that I felt like that was *our* version.

Man, I wish Blondie had more to do. But it made the missus and I smile every time he loped onto the stage, whether for guitar and vocals or just some tambourine pyrotechnics. That's what this band needed! Some high energy from a bona fide rock star. Nicky Wonder has some flash, but Blondie! They must limit his appearances in order to prevent him from stealing the show all night long.

Al was Al, and I love him all the more for it. Corny, calm, steady. Pleasant.

Brian. Brian was either having a great time, or was feeling up to making it seem like he was. Either way, I kick myself for not taking advantage of every opportunity to see him live in the past. He missed cues, yes. His delivery on his Pet Sounds leads was that weird, breathy lounge thing. We cringed a few times, but I already knew what to expect, as did the wife. It made the experience bittersweet, much like the album itself. I was a little sad that Brian wasn't what he was 50 years ago, but since that's a ridiculous thing to expect, I just got over it. In the end, our hearts were filled to bursting.

Brian was funny, and made us laugh quite a bit. The "That's Not Me" bit made us lol, and the "Did you come to hear 'Bad' Vibrations? Or did you come to hear 'Silly' Vibrations? How about 'Good' Vibrations?" did, too. He almost skipped over Pet Sounds (instrumental), and after a gentle, sweet reminder from Darian, blamed it on his teleprompter guy. Gold. I didn't take my phone out once, but I wish I had a HD recording of the show and a soundboard boot. I don't want to forget a thing.

The band had a few moments where things didn't go quite perfectly, and I heard a few bum notes on a few harmony blocks that weren't Brian or Al. Matt Jardine was the wife's favorite, and I definitely enjoy his falsetto more than Foskett's.

 JESUS what a band, what a show. I was satisfied, and left wanting more. It actually made me want to catch the M&B Beach Boys the next time they play the local Elks lodge.

Cheers!

Fantastic review! Due to a scheduling conflict I couldn't make it to Easton this year (I did last year and it was one of the best experiences of my life). My parents went to this show and sometime during the show my father texted me and said "Brian is on fire tonight!" - I'm bummed I missed out on it!

I'm really glad that Brian, the band, and the audience had such a great night.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on September 29, 2016, 10:42:37 AM
Yes, wonderful review, thanks a lot MarcellaHDF!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 29, 2016, 11:53:44 AM
I attended the show in Easton on Sunday; if you were there, guitarfool, I would have liked to have met up!

This was my first BW solo gig, after attending two C50 gigs previously. The wife, who was less than enthusiastic going into it, was smiling and dancing (when appropriate) the whole time. She was actually rather agitated that so many people just sat completely still in their seats during so many songs. HOW CAN YOU SIT STILL DURING "DANCE DANCE DANCE"???!?!?!

So yeah, boring crowd. I tried to make up for it by screaming my bloody head off after Wake the World and Add Some Music, which most people clearly didn't recognize and barely received any applause. I have avoided this thread (and setlists generally) in the hopes of surprising myself, and Wake the World and Add Some Music really made my night. The house was dark, the crazy piano chords for "Wake the World" filled the air... so special. SO FLIPPIN SPECIAL.

Wait-- holy crap, Darian's "Darlin'" blew my mind, too. He sounded so much like Carl at some points-- and not at others, but Carl is a tough act to follow -- that I kept closing my eyes to pretend. That guy's amazing.

"Sail Away" rocked live, I'm glad we got something newer than "Love & Mercy" in the set. First time hearing L&M live. Is Every L&M different? It just seemed so personal, so of-the-moment and so special, that I felt like that was *our* version.

Man, I wish Blondie had more to do. But it made the missus and I smile every time he loped onto the stage, whether for guitar and vocals or just some tambourine pyrotechnics. That's what this band needed! Some high energy from a bona fide rock star. Nicky Wonder has some flash, but Blondie! They must limit his appearances in order to prevent him from stealing the show all night long.

Al was Al, and I love him all the more for it. Corny, calm, steady. Pleasant.

Brian. Brian was either having a great time, or was feeling up to making it seem like he was. Either way, I kick myself for not taking advantage of every opportunity to see him live in the past. He missed cues, yes. His delivery on his Pet Sounds leads was that weird, breathy lounge thing. We cringed a few times, but I already knew what to expect, as did the wife. It made the experience bittersweet, much like the album itself. I was a little sad that Brian wasn't what he was 50 years ago, but since that's a ridiculous thing to expect, I just got over it. In the end, our hearts were filled to bursting.

Brian was funny, and made us laugh quite a bit. The "That's Not Me" bit made us lol, and the "Did you come to hear 'Bad' Vibrations? Or did you come to hear 'Silly' Vibrations? How about 'Good' Vibrations?" did, too. He almost skipped over Pet Sounds (instrumental), and after a gentle, sweet reminder from Darian, blamed it on his teleprompter guy. Gold. I didn't take my phone out once, but I wish I had a HD recording of the show and a soundboard boot. I don't want to forget a thing.

The band had a few moments where things didn't go quite perfectly, and I heard a few bum notes on a few harmony blocks that weren't Brian or Al. Matt Jardine was the wife's favorite, and I definitely enjoy his falsetto more than Foskett's.

 JESUS what a band, what a show. I was satisfied, and left wanting more. It actually made me want to catch the M&B Beach Boys the next time they play the local Elks lodge.

Cheers!

Fantastic review! Due to a scheduling conflict I couldn't make it to Easton this year (I did last year and it was one of the best experiences of my life). My parents went to this show and sometime during the show my father texted me and said "Brian is on fire tonight!" - I'm bummed I missed out on it!

I'm really glad that Brian, the band, and the audience had such a great night.

Agreed - Add me to the thank you's for a great review.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 29, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
Anybody know what Darian's schedule for the remaining part of the tour should be?

I don't know Darian's schedule, but it appears that his recent return was not planned and was a result of Billy Hinsche having to leave. They apparently went with no fill-in for a few shows, then Darian returned and my 100% total guess is that he only came back temporarily until they could find (and perhaps Darian could help "train") another keyboardist.

As mentioned awhile back, Billy Hinsche was originally only slated to fill-in for Darian through the June 19th show, but then when the tour resumed at the end of June, Billy was still there and remained until earlier this month. I don't know if Darian was originally scheduled to return at the end of June, or if they were planning on getting yet *another* replacement at that time. I would guess the original plan was for Darian to return, but he wasn't able to, and Billy was able to continue to fill in.

Considering the main "North American" leg of the tour ends in a couple of weeks, I would guess Darian probably won't be back in October. Who will reappear for the October/November/December gigs outside the US is anybody's guess at the moment.  

This is probably a pretty common thing for a band that is doing *extensive* touring (the schedule has to be at or near 100 shows at this point) in a given year when they are not normally on a round-the-clock contract/retainer all year long with Brian. Whereas, say, Mike Love's guys rarely are missing because they have a year-long, year-after-year schedule and thus don't need to take other engagements, the members of Brian's band on typical years are usually doing other things, and clearly at least in Darian's case he wasn't able to clear the entire year to tour because of other commitments. This year's near full-time schedule between March and October is a relatively rare thing for Brian.

Interesting. Thanks for the great analysis. It does beg a few questions:

1. Is it safe to assume that Darian's day job with Disney XD's Future-Worm! is more lucrative than touring with Brian? Or does it have more to do with Darian's long term aspirations and career building?
2. Do you think the length of this tour has been a surprise to those in the Brian Wilson band universe?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wantsomecorn on September 29, 2016, 02:04:34 PM
Anybody know what Darian's schedule for the remaining part of the tour should be?

I don't know Darian's schedule, but it appears that his recent return was not planned and was a result of Billy Hinsche having to leave. They apparently went with no fill-in for a few shows, then Darian returned and my 100% total guess is that he only came back temporarily until they could find (and perhaps Darian could help "train") another keyboardist.

As mentioned awhile back, Billy Hinsche was originally only slated to fill-in for Darian through the June 19th show, but then when the tour resumed at the end of June, Billy was still there and remained until earlier this month. I don't know if Darian was originally scheduled to return at the end of June, or if they were planning on getting yet *another* replacement at that time. I would guess the original plan was for Darian to return, but he wasn't able to, and Billy was able to continue to fill in.

Considering the main "North American" leg of the tour ends in a couple of weeks, I would guess Darian probably won't be back in October. Who will reappear for the October/November/December gigs outside the US is anybody's guess at the moment.  

This is probably a pretty common thing for a band that is doing *extensive* touring (the schedule has to be at or near 100 shows at this point) in a given year when they are not normally on a round-the-clock contract/retainer all year long with Brian. Whereas, say, Mike Love's guys rarely are missing because they have a year-long, year-after-year schedule and thus don't need to take other engagements, the members of Brian's band on typical years are usually doing other things, and clearly at least in Darian's case he wasn't able to clear the entire year to tour because of other commitments. This year's near full-time schedule between March and October is a relatively rare thing for Brian.

Having Scott Bennett unavailable probably didn't help things. Usually their fill-in would be Gary Griffin, but it seems he's working with Brian pretty much full-time now.

I think having to constantly switch keyboard players in and out is part of the reason why the setlists haven't been too adventurous. The lineup of the band is changing almost week-by-week.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on September 29, 2016, 02:26:13 PM
I attended the show in Easton on Sunday; if you were there, guitarfool, I would have liked to have met up!

This was my first BW solo gig, after attending two C50 gigs previously. The wife, who was less than enthusiastic going into it, was smiling and dancing (when appropriate) the whole time. She was actually rather agitated that so many people just sat completely still in their seats during so many songs. HOW CAN YOU SIT STILL DURING "DANCE DANCE DANCE"???!?!?!

So yeah, boring crowd. I tried to make up for it by screaming my bloody head off after Wake the World and Add Some Music, which most people clearly didn't recognize and barely received any applause. I have avoided this thread (and setlists generally) in the hopes of surprising myself, and Wake the World and Add Some Music really made my night. The house was dark, the crazy piano chords for "Wake the World" filled the air... so special. SO FLIPPIN SPECIAL.

Wait-- holy crap, Darian's "Darlin'" blew my mind, too. He sounded so much like Carl at some points-- and not at others, but Carl is a tough act to follow -- that I kept closing my eyes to pretend. That guy's amazing.

"Sail Away" rocked live, I'm glad we got something newer than "Love & Mercy" in the set. First time hearing L&M live. Is Every L&M different? It just seemed so personal, so of-the-moment and so special, that I felt like that was *our* version.

Man, I wish Blondie had more to do. But it made the missus and I smile every time he loped onto the stage, whether for guitar and vocals or just some tambourine pyrotechnics. That's what this band needed! Some high energy from a bona fide rock star. Nicky Wonder has some flash, but Blondie! They must limit his appearances in order to prevent him from stealing the show all night long.

Al was Al, and I love him all the more for it. Corny, calm, steady. Pleasant.

Brian. Brian was either having a great time, or was feeling up to making it seem like he was. Either way, I kick myself for not taking advantage of every opportunity to see him live in the past. He missed cues, yes. His delivery on his Pet Sounds leads was that weird, breathy lounge thing. We cringed a few times, but I already knew what to expect, as did the wife. It made the experience bittersweet, much like the album itself. I was a little sad that Brian wasn't what he was 50 years ago, but since that's a ridiculous thing to expect, I just got over it. In the end, our hearts were filled to bursting.

Brian was funny, and made us laugh quite a bit. The "That's Not Me" bit made us lol, and the "Did you come to hear 'Bad' Vibrations? Or did you come to hear 'Silly' Vibrations? How about 'Good' Vibrations?" did, too. He almost skipped over Pet Sounds (instrumental), and after a gentle, sweet reminder from Darian, blamed it on his teleprompter guy. Gold. I didn't take my phone out once, but I wish I had a HD recording of the show and a soundboard boot. I don't want to forget a thing.

The band had a few moments where things didn't go quite perfectly, and I heard a few bum notes on a few harmony blocks that weren't Brian or Al. Matt Jardine was the wife's favorite, and I definitely enjoy his falsetto more than Foskett's.

 JESUS what a band, what a show. I was satisfied, and left wanting more. It actually made me want to catch the M&B Beach Boys the next time they play the local Elks lodge.

Cheers!

Fantastic review! Due to a scheduling conflict I couldn't make it to Easton this year (I did last year and it was one of the best experiences of my life). My parents went to this show and sometime during the show my father texted me and said "Brian is on fire tonight!" - I'm bummed I missed out on it!

I'm really glad that Brian, the band, and the audience had such a great night.

Of the 7+ (or something like that?) times I've seen Brian, Easton was definitely one of the best. His vocals were on point and he was interactive with the crowd. Loved it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tpesky on September 29, 2016, 06:56:31 PM
Brian seemed at ease and relaxed Tuesday night in CT. Right from the start introducing songs etc. He perfectly timed Row Row Your Boat when the audience was returning late from intermission. I thought he was totally in control. The only vocal I thought was a real noticeable struggle was YSBIM.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 30, 2016, 11:20:33 AM
Cool interview with Matt Jardine from, I presume, yesterday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGGXI-OGkKY

What a freaking easy going, cool guy. I'm so glad he's the guy filling that role in Brian's band. I sincerely hope this is the guy that can fill that role in Brian's band for the remainder of Brian's career.

Would definitely love to see (and hear) a long interview with him; between his years in the BB organization, plus Al's band, and now Brian's, there have to be a ton of cool stories. He's shared a few over the years about Carl and whatnot.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 30, 2016, 11:22:23 AM
One tiny nitpick about the show; it looks like Matt is singing even more of the lead on "Don't Talk" compared to earlier in the tour. I wish they could bring the key back up to the original recording's key now that Matt's doing most of the lead.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on September 30, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
Great to hear from Matt J; definitely the sort of guy we could happily hear more from


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on September 30, 2016, 02:08:11 PM
Cool interview with Matt Jardine from, I presume, yesterday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGGXI-OGkKY

What a freaking easy going, cool guy. I'm so glad he's the guy filling that role in Brian's band. I sincerely hope this is the guy that can fill that role in Brian's band for the remainder of Brian's career.

Would definitely love to see (and hear) a long interview with him; between his years in the BB organization, plus Al's band, and now Brian's, there have to be a ton of cool stories. He's shared a few over the years about Carl and whatnot.

Very nice.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 30, 2016, 02:52:37 PM
Grabbing some dinner after the Detroit soundcheck and meet & greet. Brian is in great voice and was really in charge during the soundcheck. Johnny B. Goode was introduced as not being done in a very long time. Here is what was played:

California Saga (w/o Brian)
Johnny B. Goode (w/o Brian)
Johnny B. Goode
Surfer Girl
Salt Lake City
Sail Away

With limited wifi, Johnny B. Goode is the only video I have uploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqLeEcPO2gE

As for the meet & greet, you are still able to get any two items signed by the guys. Most folks were doing just the poster and GOK lyric sheet. Here is what I got:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BW%20Rolling%20Stone_zpsao9spvag.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BB%20Rolling%20Stone_zpsaaxiwbof.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BB%20In%20Concert_zps7jervmlw.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/Blondie%20pickguard_zpsstos15l0.jpg)

Review of the show will have to wait a few days, as I have a 2.5 hour drive home and then on a plane first thing in the morning.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Scaroline No on September 30, 2016, 03:11:01 PM
Grabbing some dinner after the Detroit soundcheck and meet & greet. Brian is in great voice and was really in charge during the soundcheck. Johnny B. Goode was introduced as not being done in a very long time. Here is what was played:

California Saga (w/o Brian)
Johnny B. Goode (w/o Brian)
Johnny B. Goode
Surfer Girl
Salt Lake City
Sail Away

With limited wifi, Johnny B. Goode is the only video I have uploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqLeEcPO2gE

As for the meet & greet, you are still able to get any two items signed by the guys. Most folks were doing just the poster and GOK lyric sheet. Here is what I got:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BW%20Rolling%20Stone_zpsao9spvag.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BB%20Rolling%20Stone_zpsaaxiwbof.jpg)[/URL]

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BB%20In%20Concert_zps7jervmlw.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/Blondie%20pickguard_zpsstos15l0.jpg)

Review of the show will have to wait a few days, as I have a 2.5 hour drive home and then on a plane first thing in the morning.

This made me all fan  squealy  :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on September 30, 2016, 03:30:20 PM
I lied, wifi was relatively good and was able to get all the videos uploaded...heading to the show now:

California Saga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeXFrNs6Y_g

Johnny B. Goode (I only recorded the one with Brian)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqLeEcPO2gE

Surfer Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_awz0nXj0

Salt Lake City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUfGTPv58vc

Sail Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWCkG8uD53s


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: SurferDownUnder on September 30, 2016, 05:07:20 PM
Grabbing some dinner after the Detroit soundcheck and meet & greet. Brian is in great voice and was really in charge during the soundcheck. Johnny B. Goode was introduced as not being done in a very long time. Here is what was played:

California Saga (w/o Brian)
Johnny B. Goode (w/o Brian)
Johnny B. Goode
Surfer Girl
Salt Lake City
Sail Away

With limited wifi, Johnny B. Goode is the only video I have uploaded:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqLeEcPO2gE

As for the meet & greet, you are still able to get any two items signed by the guys. Most folks were doing just the poster and GOK lyric sheet. Here is what I got:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BW%20Rolling%20Stone_zpsao9spvag.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BB%20Rolling%20Stone_zpsaaxiwbof.jpg)[/URL]

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BB%20In%20Concert_zps7jervmlw.jpg)

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/Blondie%20pickguard_zpsstos15l0.jpg)

Review of the show will have to wait a few days, as I have a 2.5 hour drive home and then on a plane first thing in the morning.

This made me all fan  squealy  :bw

Seconded! Damn what a collection  :o


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on September 30, 2016, 05:07:46 PM
He talked again about a R&R album next year and a cover of JBG. Seeing that clip I think it's a fun song for the show but I don't hear anything worthy of a cover I'm afraid.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on September 30, 2016, 06:20:00 PM
He talked again about a R&R album next year and a cover of JBG. Seeing that clip I think it's a fun song for the show but I don't hear anything worthy of a cover I'm afraid.

Next year!  Rock and Roll album!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: jiggy22 on September 30, 2016, 06:24:18 PM
Just like how the bedroom tapes are gonna be released later this year ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: TV Forces on September 30, 2016, 09:06:25 PM
Just got back from the Detroit show.  What a day.  Marty filled you in on the soundcheck.  I believe Brian said "Johnny B Goode" was for tomorrow.. He said "Chicago."  After that we got ready for the meet and greet, though I couldn't hear any of the instructions.  I wasn't going to bother getting individual guys to sign specific things..  My wife got the 2 items they give you signed (poster & GOK sheet) and I got my LP jackets for "Pet Sounds" and "Love & Mercy" soundtrack signed (love that artwork).

The meet & greet was very fast.  The lady stood between us and the 3 guys and instructed them on what to sign.  Then she kind of told us to get behind them for the picture.  We did so, but it really didn't feel like I met them, or made eye contact with any of them.. so I said "do you guys shake hands?"  What followed was a couple seconds of silence, and I wasn't sure they heard me, then Brian said "sure" and I got to shake all 3.. Then Brian told me to enjoy the show.  That was cool!

I got back in the lobby and everyone was gone.  I asked the guy, "did everyone leave?" and he said "yeah, you have to, doors are at 6:30" (about an hour from now).  I didn't know this.. It was probably in the inaudible instructions.  So we went and put my goodies in the car and went to the Hockeytown cafe for an appetizer.  Bob Lizik came in and sat at the bar with another guy.  When we got back in the venue, Probyn, Nelson, and possibly Nick were walking around the merch booth area.  

We got to our front row seats.. Unfortunately that's a frustrating place to sit (but an awesome place to stand).  Frustrating because the only way in & out of the orchestra pit is in front of us and people love to come late and leave for drinks every couple songs.  Also couldn't see Brian easily over his piano.. you could see his mouth if you sat up straight, but not his chin.  It was great though..  I got to stand and observe a flawless "Love & Mercy" from Brian that brought tears to my eyes.  The first set was excellent and probably overshadowed "Pet Sounds" with it's energy and solid performances from all the guys.  Brian's only sour notes came during the more difficult "Pet Sounds" material.  Still, IJWMFTT is always excellent and he had a couple vocal moments during "That's Not Me" that got applause from the crowd.  I was disappointed to hear Darian wouldn't be there, but Debbie Shair was a lot of fun to watch.

God Bless this man.  I got 4 autographs for each of the 3 guys, a t-shirt, program, mug, VIP passes, the poster & GOK sheet, encore setlist page from Probyn, 3 handshakes, a picture with the guys, and memories that will last me the rest of my life.

(https://scontent.fdtw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14432935_849729248462400_4587897866719122642_n.jpg?oh=55c0a235725cc3be6cc13e2d298ecba8&oe=58AD8891)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 01, 2016, 05:36:53 AM
I was able to record Little Deuce Coupe, Salt Lake City, Sloop John B and God Only Knows during the main set. I'll have to wait to upload until later today, as I'm working off free airport wifi. Here is the first set:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/Setlist_zpsxrmjiyef.jpg)

Pet Sounds set

Followed by the standard encore of:
Good Vibrations
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun
Love & Mercy


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 01, 2016, 11:06:46 AM
I lied, wifi was relatively good and was able to get all the videos uploaded...heading to the show now:

California Saga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeXFrNs6Y_g

Johnny B. Goode (I only recorded the one with Brian)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqLeEcPO2gE

Surfer Girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_awz0nXj0

Salt Lake City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUfGTPv58vc

Sail Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWCkG8uD53s

Thanks for those!

Brian sounded pretty good on JBG


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 01, 2016, 06:33:52 PM
Here are the four videos I recorded at the Detroit show last night. I apologize for the low angle, but security was pretty diligent and admonishing folks who were recording less discretely:

Little Deuce Coupe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfEY1lopk-s

Salt Lake City
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQw_3j2MESU

Sloop John B
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7CCU0rcxAc

God Only Knows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWxMIEVfeGI


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 01, 2016, 06:45:32 PM
Gonna check them out tonight!

At the show I went to, the security was letting people shoot videos , and one of them made use of his phone during the car songs


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on October 01, 2016, 07:16:40 PM
Waiting to hit the can during intermission, but the first half was the strongest I have sern on the tour. Brian in fine form and the band kicking ass. Brian dedicated Johnny B Goode to John Cusack who is at the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 01, 2016, 07:35:45 PM
Awesome  8)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on October 02, 2016, 01:14:37 AM
For Pet Sounds,  Brian, I thought did more of his usual singing style as opposed to Crooner Brian. It all still works and he was in a nice, relaxed mood. I imagine, based on the amount of audience reaction and love, that many of the current audiences on this tour are new fans. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But I would still urge any longtime fans who are on the fence about going because "he's already played Pet Sounds how many times" to go. This will not last forever and, to me, these shows have been truly moving experiences. Especially seeing the audience love.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Shady on October 02, 2016, 07:14:43 PM
Thanks for all the vids, great stuff

 ;D


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on October 03, 2016, 01:58:16 AM
For Pet Sounds,  Brian, I thought did more of his usual singing style as opposed to Crooner Brian. It all still works and he was in a nice, relaxed mood. I imagine, based on the amount of audience reaction and love, that many of the current audiences on this tour are new fans. Nothing wrong with that, of course. But I would still urge any longtime fans who are on the fence about going because "he's already played Pet Sounds how many times" to go. This will not last forever and, to me, these shows have been truly moving experiences. Especially seeing the audience love.

So glad you were able to go to Chicago show.  This was obviously his 2nd appearance there this tour, but appears to be the preferable one as far as sound, comfort levels, etc.  Hope to hear more about it, and Detroit and Minneapolis.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 03, 2016, 07:06:42 AM
Looks like "Johnny B. Goode" was probably a one-shot deal for Chicago.

For Minneapolis, it looks like they swapped "You're So Good to Me" in place of "Little Honda."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: skabandit22 on October 03, 2016, 08:51:41 AM
I was at the Detroit show and I was blown away. Brian and the band were on fire. He had his rough spots, but he kept getting stronger as the show went on. It really surprised me how strong he sounded on the encore- Surfin' USA and Fun Fun Fun were actually highlights for him vocally IMO, and Love and Mercy was just outstanding. I don't know where anyone is getting the idea that Brian is tired from, he was in great spirits. I loved the way he introduced the instrumentals: "this is an instrumental... no voices, just instruments".  And of course, his intro to Good Vibrations was hilarious.

To repeat what everyone else says, Matt Jardine is perfect. Don't Worry Baby was out of this world.

Al had a really funny line when introducing Wake the World / Add Some Music... I can't remember exactly what he said but he was trying to remember what album the songs were from. At first it sounded scripted, and maybe it was, but then just as they kicked into the song he went "...Sunflower!" like he just remembered.

I could go on and on but man, that was one of the best shows I've ever seen. I had psyched myself up to be disappointed for whatever reason and was not in the slightest.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on October 03, 2016, 04:57:24 PM
I attended the Minneapolis show last night. Here is the local daily paper's review (done by the same guy who did a preview/interview a few days prior):

http://www.startribune.com/brian-wilson-has-good-vibrations-in-orpheum-theatre-performance/395596051/#1

It was, I think, my sixth Wilson show, dating back to June 2001 with Paul Simon (and including two Smiles, TLOS, and an outdoor show at the beautiful Minnesota Zoo venue over the years, I think 2004, 2004, 2008, and 2013). The music sounded as good as it ever did, the band's vocals were as good as they've ever been. The set list was good, though not quite as interesting as the zoo show, as I recall, or maybe not as exciting as the full-album ones. But it was great. I had been nervous with no Scott and no Darian, but for nought. Gary and Darian's replacement (whose name I didn't catch, sorry) were both great.

Matt Jardine was absolutely, unquestionably the musical highlight of the show. He's not a dynamic frontman, yet somehow his humility or shyness or awkwardness--whatever you want to call it--is totally appealing. He was more fun to watch sing than Foskett, not that I have anything against Foskett. And I preferred his voice to Foskett's, not that I had anything against Foskett's. Matt was simply fantastic.

Blondie was great, but underused, and his rock-show movements and guitar tone were out of place, in my opinion (and I think much of the audience's...not that he didn't get a response, but it was sort of an, "um, ok, I guess it's cool" response). The biggest issue I had was simply that the guitar tone was more distortion-noise than tone, it was hard to actually hear what he was playing. It was odd, since everything else was stellar, sound-wise. Al was typically solid, but surprisingly unremarkable. I thought he was the star of the zoo show a few years back. But here, definitely Matt overshadowed him.

Brian was the worst I've seen him, I think, vocally. He did the sing-speak thing quite a bit. He missed lines. When he did sing, he sang well, which in a way made it that much more frustrating to me. He had some interesting moments, such as really clipping, punctuating in "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times," as he sang "sometimes .... I feel ... very sad." It was a time when he was on pitch and really singing well in a new style. But often he just wasn't very appealing to me. When he and Matt traded lines, it was night and day. However, he seemed to be in fine spirits (except maybe when in the encore, some presumably drunk guy got on stage to dance. Security promptly got him out of the way, but Brian was just staring at the empty stage where the guy had been for a few moments, probably freaking out a little bit.).

He opened the show by mentioning that his mom was born in Minneapolis, which got a round of applause from we proud Minneapolitans. Probyn also mentioned that his mom was born in a suburb of St. Paul, the other of our "Twin Cities," White Bear Lake. Another rousing cheer for that.

If it's the last time I see Brian, it was a good show. Glad I went.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wilsonart1 on October 03, 2016, 06:57:42 PM
Attended Mpls. show Sunday eve as well, wanted to meet the captain but he didn't get back to me.  Just lucky to sit next to a young group of people (20's) they knew every song....ole wild honey!  A show I wanted to attend, didn't need to attend.  Pet Sounds is fantastic , guess I just , through my greed would of liked more of a mix of songs like the past zoo concert. Farewell to Summer ,in this Northern state.  Fun to hear Brian say his mother was from the state.  Made me remember when I drove her to  the home she lived in.  It was Sunday eve and a above average temp. day. I didn't care if Brian and the band did what-ever just wanted it to never end.  Summer will come again to this wonderful state, just hope Brian does again.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 03, 2016, 07:23:47 PM
Attended Mpls. show Sunday eve as well, wanted to meet the captain but he didn't get back to me.  Just lucky to sit next to a young group of people (20's) they knew every song....ole wild honey!  A show I wanted to attend, didn't need to attend.  Pet Sounds is fantastic , guess I just , through my greed would of liked more of a mix of songs like the past zoo concert. Farewell to Summer ,in this Northern state.  Fun to hear Brian say his mother was from the state.  Made me remember when I drove her to  the home she lived in.  It was Sunday eve and a above average temp. day. I didn't care if Brian and the band did what-ever just wanted it to never end.  Summer will come again to this wonderful state, just hope Brian does again.

Sorry...but am I reading this right. You drove Audrey to her old house?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wilsonart1 on October 03, 2016, 08:24:53 PM
yes, with Dennis , in my 71 camero.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 03, 2016, 08:28:39 PM
That is so awesome


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Scaroline No on October 03, 2016, 08:48:42 PM
yes, with Dennis , in my 71 camero.

And we're just leaving it that? You can't just say that in passing, lol. There's a story here! Details, please :) I mean... if you feel so inclined.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 03, 2016, 08:53:57 PM
Color me intrigued.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 03, 2016, 09:39:31 PM
yes, with Dennis , in my 71 camero.

And we're just leaving it that? You can't just say that in passing, lol. There's a story here! Details, please :) I mean... if you feel so inclined.

Story? A thread more like it. :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wilsonart1 on October 04, 2016, 03:22:05 AM
I was sitting next to a lady at the Minnesota State fair having some small talk.  Just asked her, out of the blue if she was Brain Wilson's mom.  Well the answer was yes!  My next question was have you ever been back to the home you were born at?  I was told I'd love to see it again , just said let's go, Carl and dennis gave me the o.k. to take her.  It's at this point Dennis say's he's going with also.  Fun trip, yes!  Just breath in and breath out, on more than a average day.  Carl said a funny thing, Drive safe that's my Mom!  Back to the fair and backstage seat's , my reward.  Many more meetings with Carl and Dennis after that.  Dennis always thanking me after that everytime.  At the concert Dennis said my Mom was born in MN.  A local writer told in the paper Dennis was saying this at every venue and  was just putting one over on the crowd.  This little trip, seemed to show a different story.  Some times some kind of wonderful just falls into your life. 


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: PS on October 04, 2016, 10:05:47 AM
I will be at the Paramount in Denver tonight for the meet/greet/soundcheck/ and second row seat if any Smilers are also attending and would like to chat. This will likely be my last rock concert (for a host of reasons) after a lifetime of great ones, so it's a great way to bow out gracefully with the music I love most in the world.

Me, in the black shirt 'tween Brian and Mike, at the C50.

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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Pretty Funky on October 04, 2016, 10:22:38 AM
I was sitting next to a lady at the Minnesota State fair having some small talk.  Just asked her, out of the blue if she was Brain Wilson's mom.  Well the answer was yes!  My next question was have you ever been back to the home you were born at?  I was told I'd love to see it again , just said let's go, Carl and dennis gave me the o.k. to take her.  It's at this point Dennis say's he's going with also.  Fun trip, yes!  Just breath in and breath out, on more than a average day.  Carl said a funny thing, Drive safe that's my Mom!  Back to the fair and backstage seat's , my reward.  Many more meetings with Carl and Dennis after that.  Dennis always thanking me after that everytime.  At the concert Dennis said my Mom was born in MN.  A local writer told in the paper Dennis was saying this at every venue and  was just putting one over on the crowd.  This little trip, seemed to show a different story.  Some times some kind of wonderful just falls into your life. 

Cool little story. Thanks for telling it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on October 04, 2016, 11:25:12 AM
I was sitting next to a lady at the Minnesota State fair having some small talk.  Just asked her, out of the blue if she was Brain Wilson's mom.  Well the answer was yes!  My next question was have you ever been back to the home you were born at?  I was told I'd love to see it again , just said let's go, Carl and dennis gave me the o.k. to take her.  It's at this point Dennis say's he's going with also.  Fun trip, yes!  Just breath in and breath out, on more than a average day.  Carl said a funny thing, Drive safe that's my Mom!  Back to the fair and backstage seat's , my reward.  Many more meetings with Carl and Dennis after that.  Dennis always thanking me after that everytime.  At the concert Dennis said my Mom was born in MN.  A local writer told in the paper Dennis was saying this at every venue and  was just putting one over on the crowd.  This little trip, seemed to show a different story.  Some times some kind of wonderful just falls into your life. 

Cool little story. Thanks for telling it.

Yes, thanks for sharing.

I understand Debbie Shair has joined the band as a keyboardist and vocalist.  I'm really looking forward to watching her perform.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 04, 2016, 02:18:10 PM
She's got a great name ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on October 04, 2016, 04:10:12 PM
I understand Debbie Shair has joined the band as a keyboardist and vocalist.  I'm really looking forward to watching her perform.

I thought she was good. Not that she was featured or anything, so it's not as if there was ample opportunity to hear her stand out. But there wasn't the drop-off I feared before the show with Darian and Scott being replaced by her and Gary. It was a little strange to have newcomers in the front line without being featured, though, while longtime members like Probyn and Nick were still in the background, as well as oft-featured Matt. But when you consider it had been Darian and Billy in those spots earlier, it makes sense.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on October 04, 2016, 04:12:35 PM
I understand Debbie Shair has joined the band as a keyboardist and vocalist.  I'm really looking forward to watching her perform.

I thought she was good. Not that she was featured or anything, so it's not as if there was ample opportunity to hear her stand out. But there wasn't the drop-off I feared before the show with Darian and Scott being replaced by her and Gary. It was a little strange to have newcomers in the front line without being featured, though, while longtime members like Probyn and Nick were still in the background, as well as oft-featured Matt. But when you consider it had been Darian and Billy in those spots earlier, it makes sense.

Debbie has played and recorded with Wondermints and is from that L.A. pool of talent.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on October 04, 2016, 04:15:14 PM
I understand Debbie Shair has joined the band as a keyboardist and vocalist.  I'm really looking forward to watching her perform.

I thought she was good. Not that she was featured or anything, so it's not as if there was ample opportunity to hear her stand out. But there wasn't the drop-off I feared before the show with Darian and Scott being replaced by her and Gary. It was a little strange to have newcomers in the front line without being featured, though, while longtime members like Probyn and Nick were still in the background, as well as oft-featured Matt. But when you consider it had been Darian and Billy in those spots earlier, it makes sense.

Debbie has played and recorded with Wondermints and is from that L.A. pool of talent.

Interesting. I knew she had been out with Heart but not that she'd also been involved with Wondermints.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Kid Presentable on October 05, 2016, 01:00:17 AM
I also went to Sunday's Minneapolis show.  It was my first time seeing him as a coherent adult.  It was a completely remarkable experience and I won't ever forget it. 

Setlist, I think this is at least 95% accurate:
California Girls, Dance Dance Dance, I Get Around, Shut Down, Little Deuce Coupe, You're So Good To Me, In My Room, Surfer Girl, DWB, SLC, Wake The World into Add Some Music, California Saga: California
Sail Away, Wild Honey, Sail On Sailor
Pet Sounds
GV, Help Me Rhonda, Barbara Ann, Surfin USA, Fun Fun Fun, Love and Mercy

Random Thought Dump from This Guy:
-Was very happy with how great the band sounded.  If I had one critique of them it is that I actually expected the vocal stack would be stronger than it was.  Very minor complaint though, as it was still so good.  But maybe there is room to grow after some of the recent personnel changes.  Debbie from Heart was good but didn't always sing, the other guy (in Darian position) did a good job, but the two of them have huge shoes to fill and I guess that is my fault for expecting a massive Darian-like harmony contribution.
-Brian's singing was very talky/croonerish, yes, it took some getting used to.  Reminding myself that he was finishing out Detroit/Chicago/Minneapolis all in a row gave me empathy for him and think that he actually was doing fine.  I am half his age and have partied half as hard as he did over the years and I would be absolutely shot by night 3.
-Probyn is fantastic and I never appreciated it until seeing them live.
-I love Matt's falsetto, in my opinion it is the best alternative to 25 year old Brian that has ever been presented by Team Beach Boys.  That he also plays acoustic guitar and aux percussion sometimes legitimizes him more in my eyes- he stands on his own in this musical arrangement and not just as a falsetto fill-in or Al's son.
-I want to hang out with Nick.  He was outstanding.
-Nick really likes what he is doing.  However I noticed that he LOVES rocking out with Blondie.
-I was surprised by Saga: and glad it was in the set.  I really appreciated Al's contributions and "aw shucks" oldtimer banter throughout the show.
-Brian did the Mike Love "everybody say yeeeeeah (yeeeeah)" Barbara Ann intro and that made a small part of my innards frown.  Oh well.
-At one point Al introed WTW as being off Sunflower and Brian corrected him.  However, later on Brian introduced IJWMFTT but he was wrong, they played Here Today.  Oldtimer rock.  :)
-I disagree with an earlier poster- Blondie ruled the roost when he was out there and was absolutely captivating.  I wish that one day in my life I could be half as cool as he was that night.  Their version of Wild Honey was awesome because it was an extended psych guitar shred session by him.  Probably a bit jarring for some of the fans but super appreciated by me.  He came back out for the last part of the set and alternated between guitar and tambourine, during the latter prancing around, checking in with other members of the band while singing backups, and engaging the audience while weaving in and out of the stage monitors.  Hail Blondie.
-Brian took off for intermissions early- at the first possible minute he could get back stage, while the band still had nearly full outros to finish.  It is a somewhat sad but understandable dynamic- he wants to be there but also doesn't "want to be there", if that makes sense.  He also had plenty of moments of dry humor and genuine appreciation for the crowd that was absolutely radiating love at him.
-Towards the end of the set a long haired fan jumped on stage and started dancing.  I think during HMR.  Selfish douchebag hesher type.  Brian was taken aback for some moments after that.  Security removed him and on security's heels I noticed the sax/musical director guy did a sweep of the area himself while playing.  It seemed to me that he did that because he understood it would put Brian back on track and I massively appreciate everything about that.
-My personal highlights: Salt Lake City, Wild Honey, a very good That's Not Me, and the feeling that swept over me during Love and Mercy.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on October 05, 2016, 04:34:31 AM
She's got a great name ;)
Ahah Billy, the same observation I posted in Brian's forum. :)

Edit: Thanks Kid P., great show review.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 05, 2016, 06:27:29 AM
It's worth noting about the live band, and I'm not a Gary Griffin fanboy or anything (I kind of have to forget his bromance with John Stamos, etc.), that Gary Griffin has a long history with both Brian's band and the BBs in general. He of course gigged with the BBs back in the late 70s, and both he and Billy Hinsche did full tours with Brian back in 2007 almost a decade ago, and of course he has also done sporadic studio work including having the band use his studio for some tracks for TWGMTR.

Griffin has been on this tour full-time since March. He has clocked 70 or 80 or however many shows. Scott Bennett isn't coming back under any circumstances I would imagine. Griffin I don't think is a "fill in" guy anymore. He's the guy. It looks like he has shifted over to Darian's stage position since Billy left the tour, and those two spots do switch out during shows, but he's essentially the Bennett replacement.

I know some folks have been staying away from the tour thread to avoid spoilers, etc. But I just wanted to mention this, as I've seen a few comments that seem to imply Griffin is an unknown temp guy or something.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 05, 2016, 07:59:41 AM
I never gave a full review of the Detroit show and it's probably a bit late at this point, so here are some general observations:

- I think getting Brian after a day off is perfect. He looked very fresh, relaxed and in command both during the soundcheck and concert.
- I noticed Brian leaving early before the first intermission and after Pet Sounds. I figured it was like taking your star player out of an NBA game with a minute to go in the half--getting every extra minute of rest possible.
- Not a new observation, but Brian was strongest during the first set. The crooner singing style during Pet Sounds was not great and a little baffling with how strong he sung during the rest of the set. I would chalk it up to familiarity of the material, but we are how deep into this tour?
- Matt was introduced as being a part of the 90s Beach Boys on several occasions by Paul and mentioned that he had to audition for the guys.
- I believe Gary Griffin's intro also included a Beach Boys reference, as well as, the fact that he was in Love & Mercy, appears in the Woodstock documentary as a concert goer, and a part of the infamous Jesse and the Rippers.
- Sail Away was really strong, I had seen several people say how discombobulated it seemed in previous shows, but I thought they nailed it.
- I love Blondie's mini-set at the end of the first set and he missed the last show I attended back in November. I think he is very underutilized. I almost get the sense that his presence can be a bit jarring to both the band and to the audience and maybe that is why he is only sprinkled in. As much as I love Blondie, his mini-set was a bit out of place at a Pet Sounds show. I hope that this doesn't come off as a contradiction, I just think he should be used more during a non-Pet Sounds run.
- I understand Brian is Brian, but during the Pet Sounds set he received standing ovations after Sloop John B and God Only Knows--he so quickly and abruptly told people to please be seated, literally wasn't more than 5-10 seconds of clapping and he wanted people to sitdown. It just through off the vibe that he wanted to get on with things. There was a lot of nervous laughter and strange looks on peoples' faces around me.
- Others have mentioned it, but Brian essentially seems to apologize for the instrumentals during the Pet Sounds set. Again, to me, it just comes off odd.
- It would be interesting to see an actual breakdown, but it felt like Brian and Al had an equal amount of leads. Does anyone else think Al deserves equal billing on the next tour?
-Darian was missed, but Gary Griffin was outstanding. I'm bummed we didn't get Billy Hinsche, but the band was superb.
-After my meet and greet, I was able to watch a few minutes of the rest of the band rehearsing the vocal blend for Johnny B. Goode--really cool and glad I at least got to see Brian and the band rip through it during soundcheck.
- I don't have a real preference between Matt Jardine, Jeff Foskett or Brian Eichenberger--all are very strong and do the songs justice--however, the reaction Matt received from the audience throughout the night was overwhelming. It was clear he was one of, many, bright spots.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 05, 2016, 08:49:29 AM

- Sail Away was really strong, I had seen several people say how discombobulated it seemed in previous shows, but I thought they nailed it.

I noticed on the soundcheck video that you posted that it sounded more together than most of the previous attempts I've heard.

Blondie is also more noticeably accenting specific portions of Al's lead vocal. I wish they would get Blondie in on a few other numbers, just to do something different. Having Blondie sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" earlier in the tour sounded like a brilliant quick little blip of inspiration.

Maybe add "The Little Girl I Once Knew" and have Blondie do Mike's little interludes or something.

Change it up a little! Still hoping, even though it's a total novelty schtick moment, that they might add "Monster Mash" soon. Just for something different.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: harrisonjon on October 05, 2016, 09:09:13 AM
The song introductions are always a little awkward because I feel that Brian does not need to explain the songs to his audience unless they are very casual fans. Do any other artist of Brian's stature feel they have to do a dumbed down commentary on their songs when presenting them live?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: PS on October 05, 2016, 10:07:12 AM
In Denver, during the (rather lengthy and untidy because of real house issues with the sound) soundcheck, there was a lovely moment during the down time where Al was trying to figure out the chords to Magic Transistor Radio and Brian came out on stage and immediately showed him and sang a bit of it. He went right into it as if he had it in his back pocket all along. I caught a little on video and will try to upload at some point. Paul M had to do a lot of (uninteresting) Q & A with audience while the techs were working on the sound system.

Question: When did this Brian speak/singing really take hold (as opposed to his being occasionally clipped/short of breath in previous concert phrasing)? Was it a conscious change of style to accommodate issues with wavering pitch on sustained notes in the past (God only knows that Pet Sounds is so difficult for ANYONE to sing)? Indeed, like many have noted here, he sounded so very strong and on pitch for most of the night, but I was a little startled at the self conscious stylistic change toward a conversational style talk/singing for Pet Sounds in particular. Paul Simon does this kind of thing quite frequently in his approach to lyric interpretation, and one wonders if there was some influence here? Has anyone asked Brian about this change in singing style of late?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 05, 2016, 10:15:26 AM

- Sail Away was really strong, I had seen several people say how discombobulated it seemed in previous shows, but I thought they nailed it.

I noticed on the soundcheck video that you posted that it sounded more together than most of the previous attempts I've heard.

Blondie is also more noticeably accenting specific portions of Al's lead vocal. I wish they would get Blondie in on a few other numbers, just to do something different. Having Blondie sing the bridge on "Surfer Girl" earlier in the tour sounded like a brilliant quick little blip of inspiration.

Maybe add "The Little Girl I Once Knew" and have Blondie do Mike's little interludes or something.

Change it up a little! Still hoping, even though it's a total novelty schtick moment, that they might add "Monster Mash" soon. Just for something different.
Yeah, Sail Away is strong in the soundcheck video, but was even stronger during the set. There are definitely a number of moving parts to the song, so maybe it took a few shows to get it right.

I don't completely understand Blondie's under-utilization, maybe that is how his contract his written up (i.e. three songs and the encore = X dollars per show guarantee). It would seem like a no-brainer to bring him up for California Saga, even if it was just minimal percussion and some background vocals. Why not, start with a few songs he doesn't sing lead on like California Saga, Marcella, then ease in with Sail Away, Funky Pretty, Sail On Sailor, and then cap off the set with Wild Honey.

I know it was only done during the Venetian special, but I would love to see Hold On Dear Brother added to the set, as well.

The song introductions are always a little awkward because I feel that Brian does not need to explain the songs to his audience unless they are very casual fans. Do any other artist of Brian's stature feel they have to do a dumbed down commentary on their songs when presenting them live?
I completely agree. I think, especially, for the Pet Sounds set it needed no introduction. I rather enjoy some of Brian and Al's introduction to songs, plus I figure it gives everyone in the band a chance to catch their breath, switch instruments, tune their guitars, etc.

Another observation from the Fox Theatre show in Detroit, it was almost completely sold out, despite Brian playing the same venue a little over a year prior--this tour definitely has legs if they want to bring it to some of the secondary markets.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: smyleysmyle on October 05, 2016, 02:08:20 PM
This is from the 28th show at UB in Buffalo NY.  At the 15 second mark is me and my wife walking in to the show.  Pretty funny.  We saw that girl walking around inside too before the show. 

Great show, as always.  One thing that slightly bugged me was the way that Brian seems to be phrasing words, and ad-libbing.  Someone else here mentioned it already, but I got the feeling he was a little bored.  Now mind you, that was hardly an issue for me.  I'd go see Brian read the phone book if he toured like that :)



Cool interview with Matt Jardine from, I presume, yesterday?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGGXI-OGkKY

What a freaking easy going, cool guy. I'm so glad he's the guy filling that role in Brian's band. I sincerely hope this is the guy that can fill that role in Brian's band for the remainder of Brian's career.

Would definitely love to see (and hear) a long interview with him; between his years in the BB organization, plus Al's band, and now Brian's, there have to be a ton of cool stories. He's shared a few over the years about Carl and whatnot.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Kid Presentable on October 06, 2016, 02:40:43 AM

I don't completely understand Blondie's under-utilization, maybe that is how his contract his written up (i.e. three songs and the encore = X dollars per show guarantee). It would seem like a no-brainer to bring him up for California Saga, even if it was just minimal percussion and some background vocals. Why not, start with a few songs he doesn't sing lead on like California Saga, Marcella, then ease in with Sail Away, Funky Pretty, Sail On Sailor, and then cap off the set with Wild Honey.

I know it was only done during the Venetian special, but I would love to see Hold On Dear Brother added to the set, as well.


I know that people like you and I would flip our wigs for stuff like that, but you must realize too, that there is a pretty narrow fanbase out there that is really interested in mining the early 70s output of the Carl band, especially when the focus is Brian coming through and pumping out Pet Sounds and some hits.  If we're going to go down that road, what I would actually like to see is Brian, Al, Blondie and like THREE or maybe FOUR other musicians come through on a stripped down club tour where they play primarily 1967-1977 material and Al and Blondie handle well over half of the lead vocals while Brian gets comfortable with being the primary key player and a secondary vocalist.  Got a snowball's chance in hell of happening, but still.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 06, 2016, 06:13:57 AM
In Denver, during the (rather lengthy and untidy because of real house issues with the sound) soundcheck, there was a lovely moment during the down time where Al was trying to figure out the chords to Magic Transistor Radio and Brian came out on stage and immediately showed him and sang a bit of it. He went right into it as if he had it in his back pocket all along. I caught a little on video and will try to upload at some point. Paul M had to do a lot of (uninteresting) Q & A with audience while the techs were working on the sound system.

Question: When did this Brian speak/singing really take hold (as opposed to his being occasionally clipped/short of breath in previous concert phrasing)? Was it a conscious change of style to accommodate issues with wavering pitch on sustained notes in the past (God only knows that Pet Sounds is so difficult for ANYONE to sing)? Indeed, like many have noted here, he sounded so very strong and on pitch for most of the night, but I was a little startled at the self conscious stylistic change toward a conversational style talk/singing for Pet Sounds in particular. Paul Simon does this kind of thing quite frequently in his approach to lyric interpretation, and one wonders if there was some influence here? Has anyone asked Brian about this change in singing style of late?

Re: "Magic Transistor Radio": Amazing! That's the sort of stuff that makes me long for some sort of even one-shot show or even just an in-studio album where it's just Brian and a piano, and maybe someone to throw titles at him. Nothing else.

As for the speak/singing thing, I would assume it's partly due to the epic tour schedule. Not so much that it's a stamina issue, but simply that now that they're on the 80th or 90th or whatever it is performance of "Pet Sounds", I can't imagine there isn't at least a little bit of boredom that sometimes creeps in. Which is why I find it extra puzzling that they haven't rejiggered the first set setlist at least a little more to keep things a bit different after so many shows, and have instead reverted it back to material from last year (e.g. "Sail Away", "You're So Good to Me") and dropped the newer additions (e.g. "Funky Pretty", "Honkin'", now even "Little Honda" has been gone for several shows). They haven't even been rotating Al's song much lately, sticking mostly to "Cal Saga" and not rotating "Then I Kissed Her" or "Cotton Fields" in as much.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on October 06, 2016, 06:46:56 AM
Agreed-- the thought of Al noodling with and Brian busting out "Magic Transistor Radio", just out of the blue, made my heart skip a beat.

Hey! Maybe they're talking about fleshing out Mt. Vernon & Fairway into a full-length animated musical! Darian and Brian have the Disney connection, after all...

(I know that's completely unrealistic)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on October 06, 2016, 08:35:36 AM
I can see it now in lights!" The Magic Transistor Radio Tour" coming your way soon! Focus will be on Sunflower, Surf's Up, Holland and Carl and the Passions material plus selected cuts from Brian's solo albums. Yeah, baby!  :woot


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Scaroline No on October 06, 2016, 08:38:11 AM
I can see it now in lights!" The Magic Transistor Radio Tour" coming your way soon! Focus will be on Sunflower, Surf's Up, Holland and Carl and the Passions material plus selected cuts from Brian's solo albums. Yeah, baby!  :woot

I'm all over this like beaks on eagles  :bw


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Debbie KL on October 06, 2016, 02:13:37 PM
I can see it now in lights!" The Magic Transistor Radio Tour" coming your way soon! Focus will be on Sunflower, Surf's Up, Holland and Carl and the Passions material plus selected cuts from Brian's solo albums. Yeah, baby!  :woot

I'm all over this like beaks on eagles  :bw

A great theme, for sure - and great music.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 06, 2016, 02:27:47 PM
I don't completely understand Blondie's under-utilization, maybe that is how his contract his written up (i.e. three songs and the encore = X dollars per show guarantee). It would seem like a no-brainer to bring him up for California Saga, even if it was just minimal percussion and some background vocals. Why not, start with a few songs he doesn't sing lead on like California Saga, Marcella, then ease in with Sail Away, Funky Pretty, Sail On Sailor, and then cap off the set with Wild Honey.

I know it was only done during the Venetian special, but I would love to see Hold On Dear Brother added to the set, as well.


I know that people like you and I would flip our wigs for stuff like that, but you must realize too, that there is a pretty narrow fanbase out there that is really interested in mining the early 70s output of the Carl band, especially when the focus is Brian coming through and pumping out Pet Sounds and some hits.  If we're going to go down that road, what I would actually like to see is Brian, Al, Blondie and like THREE or maybe FOUR other musicians come through on a stripped down club tour where they play primarily 1967-1977 material and Al and Blondie handle well over half of the lead vocals while Brian gets comfortable with being the primary key player and a secondary vocalist.  Got a snowball's chance in hell of happening, but still.

I guess my point was that they are already doing songs from CATP and Holland without him, why not cluster it with the other three songs he does during the set and include him on those additional 1-2 songs? He already comes out for the random song, from time-to-time to do an interpretive dance and play the tambourine.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 06, 2016, 02:35:32 PM
I agree, Marty


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on October 06, 2016, 04:41:06 PM

-I disagree with an earlier poster- Blondie ruled the roost when he was out there and was absolutely captivating.  I wish that one day in my life I could be half as cool as he was that night.  Their version of Wild Honey was awesome because it was an extended psych guitar shred session by him.  Probably a bit jarring for some of the fans but super appreciated by me.  He came back out for the last part of the set and alternated between guitar and tambourine, during the latter prancing around, checking in with other members of the band while singing backups, and engaging the audience while weaving in and out of the stage monitors.  Hail Blondie.


Guessing you're referring to me. I want to clarify that I didn't mean he wasn't good, just that I didn't think the sound on his guitar was good--at least from where I sat--and that the audience didn't seem appreciative of the dramatic shift in the tone of the show from classic pop / rock n roll to, well, Blondie. I like him and think he was great. I thought I said, but maybe only elsewhere, that I'd have loved to see him more fully incorporated into the show. Not necessarily for more guitar soloing (at least at length), but just in general, because he's a fabulous musician and entertaining performer. (It was the first time I'd seen him live.)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 06, 2016, 08:58:25 PM
If anybody has (or knows of) an extra ticket for the Portland show tomorrow (10/7), I would love to buy it and go to the show.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to beg  :lol


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: wilsonart1 on October 07, 2016, 04:46:42 AM
The Mpls. paper tell's of the  $500 meet and great .  That was it 13 minutes with the great Brain Wilson in action.  Jon Bream  wrote the article.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on October 07, 2016, 05:33:03 AM
 :woot :woot
I can see it now in lights!" The Magic Transistor Radio Tour" coming your way soon! Focus will be on Sunflower, Surf's Up, Holland and Carl and the Passions material plus selected cuts from Brian's solo albums. Yeah, baby!  :woot
Oh my, OSD, you just made me dream...  :woot


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MarcellaHasDirtyFeet on October 07, 2016, 06:55:57 AM

-I disagree with an earlier poster- Blondie ruled the roost when he was out there and was absolutely captivating.  I wish that one day in my life I could be half as cool as he was that night.  Their version of Wild Honey was awesome because it was an extended psych guitar shred session by him.  Probably a bit jarring for some of the fans but super appreciated by me.  He came back out for the last part of the set and alternated between guitar and tambourine, during the latter prancing around, checking in with other members of the band while singing backups, and engaging the audience while weaving in and out of the stage monitors.  Hail Blondie.


Guessing you're referring to me. I want to clarify that I didn't mean he wasn't good, just that I didn't think the sound on his guitar was good--at least from where I sat--and that the audience didn't seem appreciative of the dramatic shift in the tone of the show from classic pop / rock n roll to, well, Blondie. I like him and think he was great. I thought I said, but maybe only elsewhere, that I'd have loved to see him more fully incorporated into the show. Not necessarily for more guitar soloing (at least at length), but just in general, because he's a fabulous musician and entertaining performer. (It was the first time I'd seen him live.)


When Blondie played his first guitar solo-- must have been Wild Honey-- at the Easton gig, the sound guy was going nuts trying to get it mixed right. For most of it, it was more "noise rock" than "70s rock guitar," and even my nasty little ears couldn't make much sense of it. By the end of the solo, you could finally hear individual notes emerge from the wall of distortion. His second solo of the night was fine from the get-go. In both cases, the solo went on *a little* too long, even for my nasty little tastes, but maybe he would rein it in a bit more if he got to take a bite out of a few more songs during the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 07, 2016, 09:22:30 AM
The Mpls. paper tell's of the  $500 meet and great .  That was it 13 minutes with the great Brain Wilson in action.  Jon Bream  wrote the article.
Maybe the meet & greet review was in the print edition only? http://www.startribune.com/brian-wilson-has-good-vibrations-in-orpheum-theatre-performance/395596051/#1

I know that the VIP soundcheck and meet & greet solicits mixed feelings and reviews. I totally understand, as $500 was no small fee for me, but it is my personal view that it is a decent value. Here is how it breaks down for me:

Front row ticket - hard to gauge actual value, as they all include the soundcheck and meet & greet, but the packages without the meet & greet are $250. The soundcheck is 30 minutes, of which, Brian was on stage for 20-25 minutes. Hard to put an actual value on the soundcheck, but it is definitely a magical experience. In my mind, $150 for the concert, $100 for the soundcheck--definitely worth it.

Meet & greet - they put a value on it of $250 (as you can buy the concert/soundcheck package for $250). I'll assign no monetary value on "meeting" Brian, Al and Blondie and getting a photo with them. Each attendee of the meet & greet was given a poster and God Only Knows lyric sheet music and instructed that we could have two signatures from each of them (on any item). To further simplify things, say you got two Pet Sounds LPs signed by only Brian and Al--reselling them on eBay certainly tops $250, if not more. One of the signed posters by Brian, Al and Blondie recently sold for $399 on eBay. I have no plans to sell any of the stuff I got signed this time, but they certainly have monetary value equal to $250.


Is it a manufactured encounter with them? Yes. Chances of meeting Brian randomly outside of a meet & greet? Pretty unlikely. Brian does kind of go through the motions, but Blondie and Al were both quite animated. I understand it's not for everybody, but I've done it twice now in the past year and felt like I got value both times.


Part of Al's enthusiasm may have been my shirt (custom made locally since I wasn't satisfied with the Redbubble t-shirt quality):

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/IMG_3204_zpsweblieel.jpg)


When the band came on stage, both Al and Matt were pointing and smiling at me. Al hooked me up with a pick at the end of the show--too bad he doesn't get personalized picks anymore:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/IMG_3205_zpsksr4dcbb.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: PS on October 07, 2016, 12:19:23 PM
Portrait of Brian Wilson ("Hindsight is 20/20")

10.4.16
Paramount Theater (soundcheck)
Denver, Colorado

(http://i68.tinypic.com/2yu0sae.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on October 07, 2016, 12:27:11 PM
Part of Al's enthusiasm may have been my shirt (custom made locally since I wasn't satisfied with the Redbubble t-shirt quality):

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/IMG_3204_zpsweblieel.jpg)


When the band came on stage, both Al and Matt were pointing and smiling at me. Al hooked me up with a pick at the end of the show--too bad he doesn't get personalized picks anymore:

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/IMG_3205_zpsksr4dcbb.jpg)

Very jealous right now!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 07, 2016, 12:38:45 PM
yeah, me too


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 07, 2016, 08:54:49 PM
Brian backstage in Portland with Mike's sister Maureen:

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14590263_10154591617202241_2049822008186281546_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=069541ca5f40907560b96bf71005ac4d&oe=5860E474)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 07, 2016, 09:41:23 PM
Wow....cool photo!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: undercover-m on October 08, 2016, 01:01:44 AM
Good to know people are buying those RedBubble shirts... You are all slowly and steadily providing for a small fraction of my student grocery funds. ;D

Anyway, I was hoping I could get a quick answer, but for the VIP packages: will there be time between the meet & greet and the show for folks to grab dinner, etc. in between? I mean, I'm assuming "yes," because hungry, cranky fans aren't all that appealing. I just would like to know exactly when, I guess.

Thanks in advance.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 08, 2016, 02:25:46 AM
Got to to say hi and get a quick picture with Blondie after the Portland show:

(http://i66.tinypic.com/2zgb0v4.jpg)

Saw and said thanks to everyone else besides Brian. Told Matt Jardine I missed the ponytail, to which he replied,"I don't!"



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 08, 2016, 02:27:41 AM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/2uqf1w9.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 08, 2016, 02:32:25 AM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/mtkwif.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 08, 2016, 02:37:55 AM
(http://i65.tinypic.com/5yu434.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 08, 2016, 05:44:52 AM
Good to know people are buying those RedBubble shirts... You are all slowly and steadily providing for a small fraction of my student grocery funds. ;D

Yeah, I bought my first one from Redbubble, but there was a light, hazy box on the front of the shirt where they must have pressed on the screening--it always bothered me and I had a size too big. I found a cheap, light blue shirt at Old Navy, brought it to my local hobby shop and they did the lettering for me. I love it!

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BW%20shopped_zpsjsc8z3kq.jpg)

Anyway, I was hoping I could get a quick answer, but for the VIP packages: will there be time between the meet & greet and the show for folks to grab dinner, etc. in between? I mean, I'm assuming "yes," because hungry, cranky fans aren't all that appealing. I just would like to know exactly when, I guess.

Thanks in advance.

The timing for my soundcheck and meet & greet was something like this:

3:30pm - Check-in and chance to buy from the merch table
4:00pm - Enter the soundcheck
4:30pm - Soundcheck concludes
4:45-5:00pm - Soundcheck only folks leave and the meet & greet starts
5:30pm - Meet & greet concludes

Actually, the meet & greet may have finished before that, I was one of the first 3 or 4 groups. I had plenty of time to grab dinner and make it back for the 8pm start time.

Have fun and report back!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Theydon Bois on October 08, 2016, 07:00:35 AM

(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee92/mbriev16/BW%20shopped_zpsjsc8z3kq.jpg)

Marvellous.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: DC310 on October 08, 2016, 11:05:43 AM
Who is covering on keys now? I heard Darian was not in Portland and his sub was a new person?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 08, 2016, 12:18:30 PM
Love and Mercy with the final bows last night in Portland...

https://youtu.be/uQZLEUoixfQ


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 08, 2016, 12:25:39 PM
Who is covering on keys now? I heard Darian was not in Portland and his sub was a new person?

Gary Griffin and Debbie Shair were on keys in Portland


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 08, 2016, 12:32:37 PM
Brian sounds really good in that video...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Bud Shaver on October 08, 2016, 12:47:02 PM
Brian sounds really good in that video...

I really enjoyed the entire show but he was hit or miss last night. Love and Mercy was perfect, especially if I never get to see another Brian Wilson concert. I hope this wasn't my last, but you never know...


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 10, 2016, 06:19:06 AM
Anyone go to the Seattle show, or planning on going to Arcata tonight? Still no setlist for the Seattle show up at setlist.fm.

I doubt much has changed since Portland, but curious to see if anything changes up on this final run of US shows.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: barsone on October 10, 2016, 08:40:17 AM
Morning Hey Jude......I was there with  both undercover-m and bubbly waves.  So unbelievable to see this generation of 20-somethings enjoy the music as much as I have for the last 40 years !!  Believe me when I say Smiley Smile is in good shape with these kids (hee hee) contributing to the board. 

I can tell you the set-list is the almost exact same as Portland but with Your So Good To Me instead of Little Honda

And GREAT job keeping these set lists up to date


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: barsone on October 10, 2016, 09:06:28 AM
And may I add about the show......just a beautiful evening.  The  Paramount Theatre in Seattle is a wonderful venue that has 3000+ seats.  People were begging for tickets outside the front door.

I felt Matt Jardine was the star of the show.  His voice just resonated both on his solo's and as he covered for Brian and the audience FULLY embraced him.
The band truly looked energized as they received multiple standing ovations throughout the show.  Brian was in a great mood and VERY talkative.  Al was....just Al.  His voice just ages like a fine wine.  And did Blondie rock !!

This was my first show seeing the new keyboardists.  The vocal stacked seemed different to me when they sang backup on some of the songs but in a good different way.  I think Gary is much lower than Darian (almost down to ML bass line but not quite) and Debbie obviously was higher than Scott in the old stack but also maybe a bit higher than when Taylor Mills was in the band. 

And as the encore worked its way to Love and Mercy, I started tearing up thinking this may be the last time I/we may see Brian out on an extended tour like we've seen this year.  Since 1974, this was my 45th  Beach Boys/ML Band/BW band show.  If this was my last show, I can't think of having a better evening meeting some Smiley Smilers and listening to the music we love.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: undercover-m on October 10, 2016, 03:42:31 PM
I can attest to how good the show was. Brian was in a great mood, and I thought his voice sounded wonderful. Al and Matt and Blondie, too.

The meet & greet was a delight; got some posters and my CD copy of PS signed. After the show, my dad and I rushed upstage and received another handshake from Al and two copies of the setlist, which interestingly enough was just the album tracklist. I was pretty ecstatic since I've never gotten one before.

It was a pleasure to meet up with you, barsone. Bubbly & I both had fun at the dinner.
Here are our gorgeous faces (me, barsone, and bubbly, respectively, on the right, plus my father on the left):
(http://i63.tinypic.com/2a812u1.jpg)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: mojoman3061 on October 10, 2016, 04:31:30 PM
A thousand thanks for posting that photo of Brian with Maureen Love, HeyJude.  There's a lot of love and affection showing there.  Good vibrations too ;-)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 11, 2016, 09:52:03 AM
Weird specific question: Can anyone who has seen or has purchased the black "hoodie" from Brian's merch stand confirm whether there's a giraffe printed on the sleeve? Brian's website doesn't show this, and one merch stand pic I can find doesn't (though it could be obscured), but I've seen a pic of Al on tour wearing one, and there's a giraffe on the his left sleeve.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 12, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
Currently at intermission for the SF show. No weird surprises in the first set, though Do It Again replaced Salt Lake City.

Band and Brian sound great. Band is tight. Blondie broke a string during Wild Honey.

Blondie did some comical, um, thrusting during Wild Honey.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 12, 2016, 09:22:52 PM
Awesome...keep the reports coming!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 13, 2016, 12:56:30 AM
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14714916_1772307696372586_564945665971319670_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 13, 2016, 01:05:13 AM
8)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 13, 2016, 06:41:48 AM
I'll probably have a "full" review up at some point soon. But some observations from last night (and I apologize if someone already mentioned these things from previous shows):

As mentioned in a previous post, no surprises on the setlist other than dropping "Salt Lake City" and adding "Do It Again" in its place, the latter having not been done that often on this tour or particularly often at all since C50. On this show, the pick between "Little Honda" and "You're So Good To Me" went to "Little Honda."

Band was TIGHT. Last year, I heard them on the opening night of the NPP tour (where they were still surprisingly tight), and then a one-off show in September, so this is the first time since probably 2013 that I got them *during* a tour and at the tail-end of one. They were amazingly tight musically and vocally.

I thought I had seen them doing WIBN in the lower key earlier in the tour; I could just be misremembering. In any event, they did it the standard old BB concert key (I think just a half-step below the original record), and Matt sang the full song except for Brian on the bridge.

Brian did the "talky" singing on PS to some degree, though it wasn't as prominent as other shows on the tour I've heard, and it was confined only to some PS songs.

I was surprised to see that Matt Jardine switches over to *electric guitar* in Probyn's spot for "Let's Go Away for Awhile" and does all of the electric guitar noodly bits as the sole electric guitar player during the song. It's a pretty prominent guitar part to hear a guy do who prior to 2015 I had never seen play guitar at all through all his years playing with the BBs and Al. I really dig that Matt's branching out and playing more guitar.

I sense perhaps Blondie is getting a bit restless doing his same few songs, and on this show he seemed to vary his vocal intonations more and, as mentioned earlier, was trying out some new "moves" on stage including a *hilarious* and equally odd "thrusting/gyrating" bit during "Wild Honey."

Blondie came out and joined the band for "Little Honda", which seemed to surprise Al.

Blondie broke a string during "Wild Honey", but kept playing, and also played with the broken string through "Sail on Sailor." His guitar was one of the few times where the mix wasn't bringing it forward enough, so his guitar soloing was lost in the mix a bit and may have sounded to the audience as more noise than guitar solo.

Gary Griffin has seemed to morph more into Darian's on-stage role, playing a more prominent part and even seemingly *leading* the band during some songs. Debbie Shair seemed to play Griffin's previous role, doing more straight "rhythm piano" and then a few other assorted bits. She seemed to smile the entire time like she was getting a kick out of being there.

As pictured above, I was quite surprised to see this was one of the few shows that got its own individual (well, for the two night run of shows anyway) poster. Yes, they did just take the template from the Hollywood Bowl poster and change the background color and some wording/graphics. But still cool, and much more interesting than the standard poster. Unsigned posters were $20, signed were $100. I already have a few Brian autographs, so I went with saving $80. I also grabbed a program and hoodie.

Looks like they were also selling Brian's book at the show.

Sound was quite good at The Masonic, much better acoustics for a rock show than last year at Davies Symphony Hall. This was my first time at the Masonic.

Brian was in a good mood, and I have noticed what others have often mentioned: He seems to be in better voice and mood after a day (or more) off. Brian's singing during the non-PS stuff was good, better than I anticipated and better than a lot of the YouTube stuff I've seen/heard. He was also better than I anticipated  on the PS stuff. I have to wonder if he's just a little bored of doing PS every night, leading to the weird Sinatra/Nick Cave "talky" singing. I've seen Brian a dozen or however many times since 1999, so I know how good and bad it can be for him on any given night. He had a good night last night in San Francisco, and I'm glad.

Al was in fine voice as always. Kicked ass on "I Know There's an Answer."

Matt Jardine is now being brought to the front of the stage for "Don't Worry Baby"; the crowd went nuts for him. It almost seemed like he brought a fan club with him or something with all the swooning and whatnot.

Simply put, Matt is easily the best falsetto guy either the BBs or Brian have ever used on tour. No doubt, no question. As I've often said since Matt joined, this isn't a knock on Foskett; I was openly lobbying for Matt to join Brian's tour all the way back in 1999 when such an event seemed *impossible*.

Overall, a great, great show. Other than not changing up the setlist more, I have no complaints. So, so glad I got to see another show. More thoughts as they come....

Awful smartphone pic that really just proves I was there more than anything else (I'm guessing the local papers and other posters will come up with far better pics):

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14691087_1772310096372346_2343024731709886322_n.jpg?oh=178fd90282380582379e032437db514e&oe=58A31776)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on October 13, 2016, 06:52:11 AM
Thanks HJ, fantastic review by one of the best pens, best ears, and most rational thinkers, in all BB/BW fandom.
Agree 100% on Matt Jardine. Well, he is his father's son after all. :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 13, 2016, 07:05:37 AM
A review from the Mercury News:

https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/10/13/review-brian-wilson-brings-pet-sounds-to-life/

And some pics:

(https://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/cct-petsounds-1014-07.jpg?w=660)

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Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 13, 2016, 07:56:18 AM
Brian was in a good mood, and I have noticed what others have often mentioned: He seems to be in better voice and mood after a day (or more) off. Brian's singing during the non-PS stuff was good, better than I anticipated and better than a lot of the YouTube stuff I've seen/heard. He was also better than I anticipated  on the PS stuff. I have to wonder if he's just a little bored of doing PS every night, leading to the weird Sinatra/Nick Cave "talky" singing. I've seen Brian a dozen or however many times since 1999, so I know how good and bad it can be for him on any given night. He had a good night last night in San Francisco, and I'm glad.

Al was in fine voice as always. Kicked ass on "I Know There's an Answer."

Matt Jardine is now being brought to the front of the stage for "Don't Worry Baby"; the crowd went nuts for him. It almost seemed like he brought a fan club with him or something with all the swooning and whatnot.

Simply put, Matt is easily the best falsetto guy either the BBs or Brian have ever used on tour. No doubt, no question. As I've often said since Matt joined, this isn't a knock on Foskett; I was openly lobbying for Matt to join Brian's tour all the way back in 1999 when such an event seemed *impossible*.

I had a similar observation in Detroit, one day of rest and we got a very upbeat, rested Brian with strong vocals. I know I have contributed to this by posting my YouTube videos, but I think it's unfair to put too much stock in anything posted to YouTube--audio pulled from an iPhone isn't the best. You can get an overall feel, but it's far from ideal.

I do question why he would be any more bored by the PS songs compared to the other hits he plays night in and night out???

No doubt that Matt got one of the biggest reactions of the night at the show I attended. Much deserved.

Sounds like a great night!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 13, 2016, 09:26:05 AM
YouTube videos definitely have their limitations. I don't put much stock in them when rating how well a show's sound was mixed, or how good the acoustics are in a venue.

But, assuming the lead vocal can be heard, I think it gives a pretty good baseline for how Brian (or others) are doing vocally.



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Marty Castillo on October 13, 2016, 11:14:10 AM
YouTube videos definitely have their limitations. I don't put much stock in them when rating how well a show's sound was mixed, or how good the acoustics are in a venue.

But, assuming the lead vocal can be heard, I think it gives a pretty good baseline for how Brian (or others) are doing vocally.


Fair point.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: marcella27 on October 13, 2016, 04:06:27 PM
Do it Again is back! Hurray! They did it back in June in Burlington and it was fantastic...that moment just before the last chorus when there's a second of pause and then everyone starts in again...bliss. When I saw them three weeks later in Ottawa it had disappeared from the set and remained off for months.

And just to note that Blondie has been humping his guitar periodically throughout the tour...it's always an interesting moment.

The poster is really nice!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: the captain on October 13, 2016, 04:51:44 PM

I was surprised to see that Matt Jardine switches over to *electric guitar* in Probyn's spot for "Let's Go Away for Awhile" and does all of the electric guitar noodly bits as the sole electric guitar player during the song. It's a pretty prominent guitar part to hear a guy do who prior to 2015 I had never seen play guitar at all through all his years playing with the BBs and Al. I really dig that Matt's branching out and playing more guitar.


I was surprised to see that, too. All of my memories of Matt are of a guy awkwardly not holding an instrument as he stands among an assortment of multi-instrumentalist-vocalists. Yet he played acoustic, which was a little, "ok, it's buried in the mix." And then that lead bit. Good for him.

I said before, but I'll say again, he was phenomenal. Star of the Minneapolis show, without question, in terms of audience response and performance. The lack of Darian and Scott was worrisome to me, but Matt filled that void (in an entirely different way). What a voice.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 14, 2016, 06:34:04 AM

I was surprised to see that Matt Jardine switches over to *electric guitar* in Probyn's spot for "Let's Go Away for Awhile" and does all of the electric guitar noodly bits as the sole electric guitar player during the song. It's a pretty prominent guitar part to hear a guy do who prior to 2015 I had never seen play guitar at all through all his years playing with the BBs and Al. I really dig that Matt's branching out and playing more guitar.


I was surprised to see that, too. All of my memories of Matt are of a guy awkwardly not holding an instrument as he stands among an assortment of multi-instrumentalist-vocalists. Yet he played acoustic, which was a little, "ok, it's buried in the mix." And then that lead bit. Good for him.

I said before, but I'll say again, he was phenomenal. Star of the Minneapolis show, without question, in terms of audience response and performance. The lack of Darian and Scott was worrisome to me, but Matt filled that void (in an entirely different way). What a voice.

Yeah, I think Matt has found a good balance in terms of stage position/presence. I thought it looked a little weird when they had him front-stage on his couple of 2014 shows just standing and singing. It only *looked* weird; he did a great job of course. But even when they had him up front when he played with Al's bands (and I think they also had him up front for the 1998 shows he did with Mike's Beach Boys after Al and Carl were gone), he usually had a few percussion things in front of him or something.

So I like how they have him stationed now, along the line with the rest of the band, and he is now adding some guitar to the mix as well. I have to say, while the little guitar noodly bits on "Let's Go Away for Awhile" aren't exactly Hendrix or anything, it would have to be nerve-wracking to be the sole electric guitar player during an instrumental on such an iconic track/album. Awesome to see Matt has the balls to do it and he did it well.

Woudn't mind hearing he and Al team up for an acoustic number together or something, maybe "Santa Ana Winds" or something.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 14, 2016, 07:59:52 AM
A nice video of WIBN from 10/12 in San Francisco I found on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onRB0PZqRbQ


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 14, 2016, 10:05:41 AM
According to a posted setlist, "Please Let Me Wonder" replaced "California Saga" for the second SF show last night.

That one has only been done twice prior this year, and only three times last year (including last year at the SF show I caught).

Cool to see at least one change, though a bummer to lose an Al lead.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: chaki on October 14, 2016, 10:22:44 AM
Last night's show:

Brian was animated, crowd was lethargic.
Blondie was drunk and funny.
Al called Wake The World "inconsequential"
Music is the best.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: thorgil on October 14, 2016, 10:37:49 AM
If crowd was lethargic, of course Wake the World was "inconsequential"! Probably that's just what Al meant. :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 14, 2016, 11:23:16 AM
Last night's show:

Brian was animated, crowd was lethargic.
Blondie was drunk and funny.
Al called Wake The World "inconsequential"
Music is the best.

The previous night's crowd wasn't rowdy by any means, but they were pretty upbeat. Definitely wouldn't say lethargic. I dunno, maybe it's because the second show (10/13) went on sale first, and then the first show (10/12) was added later, so it was filled with more "whew, I'm grateful to have gotten a ticket!" sort of fans? Probably way too much of an overanalysis.

I did have to question if Blondie had had some drinky. He seemed to be enjoying himself and was a little looser on stage (and vocally) than usual. I still get the vibe he's a little bored only coming in for a few songs. I dunno if they need him up there through "Pet Sounds" or anything, but having a couple more Blondie-centric songs would be nice, and would give him more to do.

I would guess Al's comments about stuff like "Wake the World" and other deep cuts goes all the way back to his years touring with the BBs, where sometimes they seemed to nearly apologize ahead of time for playing any non-hit.

I *do* think the Brian touring has come around full circle again to where these PS shows are so popular that the concentration of hardcore fans is a little lower than some previous tours. I remember seeing him in 2000 and stuff like "'Til I Die" and even "Let It Shine" was getting various "noises" of recognition. I think some of the more casual fans may know the hits and PS on this current tour, but not so much "Wake the World" and a few other deep cuts. It may be one of the reasons the band so quickly dropped "Honkin' Down the Highway", only performing it about nine or so times before dropping it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 17, 2016, 06:02:22 AM
Updated some setlists on the top post. There still are no setlists for Arcata and Stateline on setlist.fm.

If the final show in Sacramento has an accurate setlist, it looks like they did a slightly truncated show for the final night in the US.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Misterlou on October 17, 2016, 08:57:56 PM
Updated some setlists on the top post. There still are no setlists for Arcata and Stateline on setlist.fm.

If the final show in Sacramento has an accurate setlist, it looks like they did a slightly truncated show for the final night in the US.

I was at the Sacramento show on a very rainy night and it was fantastic! It looks like the setlist was basically the same as the first Masonic show in San Francisco with the exception of Little Honda, with Salt Lake City, inexplicably, being played instead... which Brian introduced as a "rocker." I am a California native but lived in Salt Lake City for a number of years, and saw the Beach Boys in Utah at least four times, and never once did they play Salt Lake City. They did play California Saga and Add some Music in Sacramento which are missing from the setlist.

I thought it was funny that Brian told people at the start of the show that if they didn't like it, they were free to leave, or something to that effect, and that he got up and left the stage at the end of the first half and before the encore while the songs were still playing, but the man has earned the right to do whatever he wants. It looked like his back was giving him problems as he had to be helped on to the stage at the beginning.

One thing I noticed that was way cool is that the band played that awesome missing melody line that's found on "Hang On To Your Ego - Highlights from tracking session" that doesn't appear on I Know There's An Answer... I've always wondered why that part was left out of the final version of the song. Does anyone know?

Anyway, the band sounded great and had a lot of energy. Blondie was rocking on his numbers as usual. Great night!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 18, 2016, 08:24:22 AM
They've had "Salt Lake City" pretty regularly in the setlist since mid-September. Not quite as random and obscure as early tour performances this year of "Monster Mash" (which ironically Brian *didn't* perform this month at all), but a cool random one. I've always dug when Brian digs out mid-60s relative obscurities, like "Good to my Baby" and "Girl Don't Tell Me."

But yeah, the BBs almost never did "Salt Lake City." Setlist.fm only shows one pre-1998 performance, and I've heard the recording of that show from 1981, and even in that case they only did a quick two lines from the song to open a gig in Utah.

I think they did something similar on the C50 tour in 2012, just doing a little snippet of the song.

Mike's band has done it, though rarely.

Brian has actually been doing it on and off for a number of years, most often on tours in 2009, 2011, and this year. Brian has notched more performances than any other BB-related band, doing it around 80 times over the years.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on October 18, 2016, 02:26:56 PM
They've had "Salt Lake City" pretty regularly in the setlist since mid-September. Not quite as random and obscure as early tour performances this year of "Monster Mash" (which ironically Brian *didn't* perform this month at all), but a cool random one. I've always dug when Brian digs out mid-60s relative obscurities, like "Good to my Baby" and "Girl Don't Tell Me."

But yeah, the BBs almost never did "Salt Lake City." Setlist.fm only shows one pre-1998 performance, and I've heard the recording of that show from 1981, and even in that case they only did a quick two lines from the song to open a gig in Utah.

I think they did something similar on the C50 tour in 2012, just doing a little snippet of the song.

Mike's band has done it, though rarely.

Brian has actually been doing it on and off for a number of years, most often on tours in 2009, 2011, and this year. Brian has notched more performances than any other BB-related band, doing it around 80 times over the years.

Maybe I've just been ignorant of this, but Brian's done "Good To My Baby"?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 18, 2016, 02:36:25 PM
I know he did in 2004, because I saw him do it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on October 19, 2016, 02:12:08 PM
I love Salt Lake City
They did it during the original run of TLOS shows at the Royal Festival Hall
I hope it makes the set list at the Royal Albert Hall next Friday
It would be great to hear it done live again


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 20, 2016, 01:00:20 PM
Added the December 1 show in Mexico to the schedule on the top post, as that was previously posted on Brian's site seemingly as a 2017 date.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Emdeeh on October 20, 2016, 08:14:20 PM
That Dec. 1 show is listed on Brian's site as in Monterey, Indiana. Can anyone confirm which date and location is accurate?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 21, 2016, 06:18:00 AM
Given that it's "Monterrey" with two R's, that the venue is "Auditorio Pabellon" (a venue in Monterrey, Mexico), and that the timing lines up perfectly with the other show Brian is doing in Mexico, I think it's more than likely the Mexico venue. Not sure where the "IN" reference came from on Brian's website, but Brian's website does have a track record of being late to post dates, spelling things wrong, etc. It wouldn't make sense for one random show to happen in Indiana, whether December of this year or next year.

Also, I believe Pollstar is the industry standard, sort of the concert industry equivalent of what Billboard is for the record industry, and I'm guessing they only take tour dates from promoters, venues, artists, agencies, etc.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Theydon Bois on October 28, 2016, 03:34:12 PM
Three brief notes after seeing my favourite songwriter in my favourite city:

1.  Thanks so much to acrossthesea for sorting me out for such a wonderful seat.  Really, really appreciated.

2.  Darian's back!

3.  Brian, before the title track of Pet Sounds: "When you hear these drums, you guys are gonna sh*t."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on October 28, 2016, 03:41:51 PM
Very very good tonight.  Particularly the first set which was close to flawless and as good as I can remember of a Brian Wilson gig.

Darian giving Brian a shoulder massage during the encore was a cute moment.😍

Immeasurably better than the show I saw at the Palladium back in May, which was "just" OK to good for me, though I gather the night or two after were a lot better than the Friday.

Real pleased I got to see Sail Away performed live I love the warmth in Blondie's voice on that one.

Can anyone remind me of the little song snippets they do for each member during the band intros?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 28, 2016, 03:46:30 PM
Quote
Brian, before the title track of Pet Sounds: "When you hear these drums, you guys are gonna sh*t."

:lol LOVE it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Theydon Bois on October 28, 2016, 03:51:37 PM
Can anyone remind me of the little song snippets they do for each member during the band intros?

Not comprehensively, but definitely "Smoke On The Water", "The James Bond Theme" and "Hey Bulldog" were in there.  And Nelson Bragg comes on to "(Don't Fear) The Reaper", complete with more cowbell.

How long have they been sticking a bit of "Rhapsody In Blue" at the end of "Fun Fun Fun"?  If they did that in the summer then I must have missed it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Theydon Bois on October 28, 2016, 03:55:49 PM
And whether it's Carli Munoz on "Leaving This Town" on In Concert, Charles Lloyd stretching out on "All This Is That" in the late '70s or Blondie doing his intense open-ended noise assaults in 2016, I don't seem to ever object to the heavenly marriage of glorious Beach Boy music and ridiculous wig-out solos.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on October 28, 2016, 04:35:23 PM
Can anyone remind me of the little song snippets they do for each member during the band intros?

Not comprehensively, but definitely "Smoke On The Water", "The James Bond Theme" and "Hey Bulldog" were in there.  And Nelson Bragg comes on to "(Don't Fear) The Reaper", complete with more cowbell.

How long have they been sticking a bit of "Rhapsody In Blue" at the end of "Fun Fun Fun"?  If they did that in the summer then I must have missed it.
On the previous leg of the tour.
Mike D'Amico: no song
Bob Lizik: no song
Nick Walusko: bass and drum hook to Walk On The Wild Side
Nelson Bragg: Dirty Water
Probyn: can't remember right off hand.
Matthew: Carry On Wayward Son
Darian/Billy/Debbie: I Feel Fine
Gary: Tighten Up
Paul: Hey Bulldog
Blondie: Brown Sugar
Al: Miserlou



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Sam_BFC on October 28, 2016, 04:36:07 PM
Great thanks both


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RiC on October 29, 2016, 07:06:46 AM
My thoughts of the RAH show. Brian seemed really into it in the first half, but on Pet Sounds he lost interest and didn't sing as good, excluding couple higlights like Sloop John B and God Only Knows. He sang very well those two and really put effort into it. Funny moments: couple good "jokes" by Brian, like the one about drums on Pet Sounds (title track), as described above. And his built up to Salt Lake City was kinda funny too (I don't remember the exact words, but something like this: "this one is gonna rock. It's really great rocking song")  

Then on the encore Brian checked his watch about five times. The best timing was during Love & Mercy when he stopped singing after "and" in the "looooove and mercy that's what you need tonight"-part to check his wrist watch. LOL  ;D Blondie stole show as usual! And Alan did amazing job with Help Me Rhonda, as usual  :) I was sitting at the upper circle, and was disappointed with the acoustics. Sounded pretty bad up there, but what can you do. In some ways the shows in May in Palladium were better. In my opinion Brian sang better then, and I got the feeling that the audience was better (more hc, more applause).

I bought an extremely cool litograph poster made especially for the gig. It cost 30 pounds, but it's pretty large and cool as hell! Oh and I got to meet Nelson Bragg before the show and bought his solo LP. What a great guy!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 29, 2016, 10:59:04 AM
Looks like the third variant on the poster:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmLQYlbWkAESPxD.jpg)

(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/14714916_1772307696372586_564945665971319670_o.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9)

(http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23121.0;attach=4441;image)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on October 30, 2016, 10:28:00 PM
The Paris setlist is up at setlist.fm. Appears identical, and I'm assuming the listing for "Cool Cool Water" is actually "California Saga."


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on October 30, 2016, 10:32:57 PM
Probably is, as a previous performance of that song was tit led as such on youtube


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on November 03, 2016, 09:46:36 AM
I've updated the top post with the recent European setlists. No new additions, and it looks like the Basel show got a slightly shortened setlist.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on November 03, 2016, 12:48:58 PM


The Dubai show just finished, reports indicate a 1.5h show without intermission




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 03, 2016, 12:55:57 PM
From Paris...LOVE how Brian hits this note
https://youtu.be/IVxmBA5kVgk?t=14m22s


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: CenturyDeprived on November 03, 2016, 12:58:18 PM
From Paris...LOVE how Brian hits this note
https://youtu.be/IVxmBA5kVgk?t=14m22s

Brian's still got it when he wants to bring it!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 03, 2016, 01:31:39 PM
Yeah he does. I was blown away


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: RubberSoul13 on November 03, 2016, 09:53:48 PM
From Paris...LOVE how Brian hits this note
https://youtu.be/IVxmBA5kVgk?t=14m22s

NICE!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Robbie Mac on November 03, 2016, 10:28:54 PM
Yeah, I love it when he does something slightly different in an old song, like that particular phrase. Would you call it a melissma or just a slightly different melody?


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ForHerCryingSoul on November 03, 2016, 10:38:38 PM
Yeah, I love it when he does something slightly different in an old song, like that particular phrase. Would you call it a melissma or just a slightly different melody?
Melisma, embellishment, or grace notes.  ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on November 07, 2016, 10:01:45 PM
Yesterday somebody at his concert in Norway posted this on the FB Brian Wilson Tour page:

Brian fall out trying to sit at his chair,it looked really bad,matt,al and i think darian help him got up, when he was coming back for the encore...surprisingly he finished the whole set like nothing happened..!


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: jiggy22 on November 07, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
Yesterday somebody at his concert in Norway posted this on the FB Brian Wilson Tour page:

Brian fall out trying to sit at his chair,it looked really bad,matt,al and i think darian help him got up, when he was coming back for the encore...surprisingly he finished the whole set like nothing happened..!

I wouldn't be surprised if it was trouble with his back, after seeing him in the wheelchair and whatnot. Happy to hear he brushed it off though. If he survived the Landy era, then one little fall should be nothing!  ;)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: ♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇 on November 07, 2016, 11:30:09 PM
I think the chair slipped from under him when he went to sit in it.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: anders wyller on November 08, 2016, 01:08:32 AM
Short report from Oslo show:
Yeah, Brian fell off his chair for the encore – it looked dramatic – The Spektrum fell silent, 3000 people held their breath - Paul Mertens and three others got him back on his feet. This was just before going into GV. Brian asked if we wanted some Bad Vibrations!:), -  well seated again he got into song as if nothing had happened.
Highlights from the show; Wake the world/add som music. Wild honey/Sail on Sailor with Blondie in top form. 2,5 hours, with intermission.
I was surprised how many leads Brian took throughout the show – almost all leads on PS. Great reviews in all news papers here.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on November 08, 2016, 03:15:36 AM

Great show last night in Malmφ, Sweden, the last show of the European leg.  Excellent concert hall.
Brian was in fantastic mood and in fine physical shape.  Looks like the Olso's fall had zero repercussions so no worries there.  Several funny Brianisms.
No surprises in the set list, which was to be expected.

I can post the set list later, for reference.




Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on November 08, 2016, 06:53:45 AM
Yes, please do!



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on November 08, 2016, 07:00:13 AM
I've posted a link on the top post for the Malmφ setlist.

Still nothing on setlist.fm for the previous two shows from November 3 or November 6.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: remy13127 on November 09, 2016, 03:53:12 AM
Hi everyone, I'd like to review the Paris show at Salle Pleyel -
I found it strange that Brian's autobiography wasn't for sale as part of the tour merchandise - fortunately there is Amazon!
Blondie Chaplin walked in the waiting room, it was great to see him, he shook his hand with someone who bent in reverence.
When we entered the concert hall, classical arrangements of Beach Boys songs were playing in the background.
Eventually the concert started - Brian and the band completely nailed the first part! The sound at the first balcony in Pleyel wasn't great though.
Matt seemed to have some difficulties hitting the highest notes, maybe some kind of voice extinction (eg the beginning of Don't Worry Baby), but he has such a great voice anyway. Blondie brings so much energy to the show, even if his guitar solos are "special" ahah. I loved his set of songs. They played "You're so Good To me", people at the front didn't calp except for one person which Al noticed ! "Glad you like it"... Well most of the people at this concert (including me) waited years before seeing Brian live. Somehow they were a public of listeners so I can understand why they didn't clap that much at the front.
I was so looking forward to hearing Pet Sounds! Overall I wasn't disappointed.  Their live version of the instrumental "Pet Sounds" has to be my favorite version of the song, maybe my highlight of the show. The way Brian ended "I know there's an answer" was tremendous. His way of singing "I Just Wasn't made for these times" now was remarkable. Al sung the "I guess HE just wasn't made for these times"! Unfortunately, Brian's singing of "I'm Waiting for the day" wasn't great, he coughed during the first verse. Matt was a bit low in the mix, maybe because of the issue with his voice extinction (I'm unsure). Darian sung Darlin', I'm so glad he could make it to the show, Darian is such an important part of Brian's recent history. Al's Wake the World was great. Brian nailed Love & Mercy. 
At the end of the show, Al stayed a little while and shook hands with people at the front of the public. I should have bought a seat there :-)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: cpeck on November 09, 2016, 07:07:41 AM
Hi all,
First post!

I wrote about seeing the tour in Toronto, Ottawa, and Detroit for a website called The Talkhouse. Hope you like it.

http://thetalkhouse.com/writing-brian-wilson-2016/


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Scaroline No on November 09, 2016, 07:33:15 AM
Welcome cpeck, and thanks for posting this. I really enjoyed it, nicely written. I was also at the Massey Hall show -- not a day goes by that I don't flash back to it and get the same chills as I did at the show.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: cpeck on November 09, 2016, 07:49:38 AM
Welcome cpeck, and thanks for posting this. I really enjoyed it, nicely written. I was also at the Massey Hall show -- not a day goes by that I don't flash back to it and get the same chills as I did at the show.

Thanks very much - that Massey Hall show was truly remarkable.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: STE on February 20, 2017, 11:13:01 AM


2016 Pet Sounds Tour Video:

https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk (https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk)



Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: rickymyfataar on February 20, 2017, 07:38:55 PM


2016 Pet Sounds Tour Video:

https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk (https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk)





Thanks for sharing. Even though it looks like its been put together by a high school student. Compared to what McCartney's and The Rolling Stones video crew does heck even Chicago this video was subpar as f*** . I really hope they didn't pay anyone for this.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on February 20, 2017, 08:40:01 PM


2016 Pet Sounds Tour Video:

https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk (https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk)



Brian celebrates Wilson


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on February 21, 2017, 06:28:40 AM
I can only speak to McCartney, but while his "official videos" online may be more polished, they're less revealing or substantive than a fortune cookie fortune, so it kinda doesn't matter. Rarely do these Facebook/YouTube "official videos" offer anything of substance. It's a TV commercial, only they don't have to pay to put it on TV.

It's like the McCartney "You Gave Me the Answer" fan questions segment they continue to do, with questions about on par with "Brian, what's your favorite pizza?"

In the case of this Brian video, it appears this is simply to prime the well for people to buy show tickets and VIP packages.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Lowbacca on March 08, 2017, 01:07:24 PM


2016 Pet Sounds Tour Video:

https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk (https://youtu.be/i7UcyDLoGjk)


Cool, thanks!

Caught the show last year in June (or was it May?) in London, took my father (his first time seeing any BBs-related act live) and he was blown away.

Gonna attend this year's July show in Frankfurt, Germany, probably meeting some old friends. Who's there as well? :)


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on March 08, 2017, 03:45:23 PM
I have my ticket for the show in Seattle, beautiful theater, this is a dream coming true


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tout va bien on September 23, 2017, 03:15:13 PM
i’m truly happy to be in NY for the Radio City Music Hall concert (I came from the south of the continent). If anyone is interested in today’s concert and doesn’t have a ticket yet  (i doubt it), i’ll be on the door with two tickets from my friends who cannot fly. I don’t expect to win money with this, only not to lose it all! Vestiment code: I’m wearing a smile pin, hehe. Orch4 QQ row, center. Don’t cry or laugh at me.  :afro


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: myonlysunshine on September 23, 2017, 06:25:34 PM
I'm here at Radio City as well. The first set just ended.

I haven't been keeping up with the recent set lists, but they played a bunch of Wild Honey songs tonight — I'd Love Just Once to See You, Aren't You Glad, and Let the Wind Blow. I had heard they removed their Wild Honey set a little while back, but they brought it back tonight. Pet Sounds set is about to start.


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: HeyJude on September 23, 2017, 06:40:48 PM
This is the 2016 tour thread. Here's the current 2017 thread:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,24485.0.html


Title: Re: Brian Wilson 2016 Tour Thread (Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary Tour)
Post by: tout va bien on September 23, 2017, 09:31:36 PM
 ;D forgot it, it was great anyway... hehe