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wonder what he'll play

I haven't watched Conan since he left NBC.  Will Brian still play at the end of the show?

Runaway Dancer

Whomever these two doofs are need to finish on up...only 10 minutes left. I know it was pretaped but damn this sh*t could've been cut out.

Wow, Brian actually looks really into it, I'm really liking this performance!

Mic is not loud enough but what I can hear of him he sounds great...and that's the most animated I've seen Brian in years

Watching it now.  Brian's vocals are quite low in the mix.  Still, this is going better than the Jimmy Kimmel performance.  I still think BW's best TV performance was his appearance on Conan years back performing "Heroes and Villains".  Wish I could watch that one again...

Yeah, I could barely hear Brian, if at all.  Everything else appeared to go a lot smoother than the Kimmel performance, though.

Absolutely-great performance by him and the band-much better than Kimmel.

Is it to early to search YouTube yet?  :lol

Not really sure why Brian was there...the only time he was audible in the mix is if his phrasing was off from Sebu.

He looked WAY happier than last week, but if I were in that audience and didn't know Brian Wilson's history...I'd leave there saying, well what did that guy have to do with anything? He barely sang, and never touched his piano.

Just rewound it and rewatched. ..Brian was indeed low, but I could hear him better once I knew what to listen for, and he sounded great...to the point where I REALLY wish he was turned up!

And actually. ..I thoughe he was miming but upon 2nd watch he was indeed playing the keys, as during the false fade towards the end he's the only one touching the keys, and you can hear it.

Total Bullshit as usual.  He played the keyboard the whole time . He was completely audible in the mix. But this is completely in line with just about every post you make. Your agenda shines through though , just fine

My agenda? What is this...the mob?  :o


I'm a fan...I watched the show, and I'm commenting. I'm sorry if my thoughts don't line up with your "agenda"...yeesh!

Here we go...

No. NOT here we go dammit.


I'm a fan and I'm sorry if I don't praise everything Brian does! I don't praise everything ANY of them do!!!


We should be able to comment here regardless of our feelings and not be ostracized for it.

I'm all for conversation about our opinions, but this board has NEVER engaged in that...

Considering the way you just completely disrespected Guitar fool in the other thread because he actually backed up what he said  (despite you viewing his view as 'stagnant'), well...

Nothing to do with opinion. ..you flat out stated Brian never touched the keyboard, which was blatantly incorrect (and has been pointed out to you twice now). it's okay to admit you're wrong once in a while. No, you don't have to praise everything. sh*t,  I sure as hell don't. But if someone points out something you're incorrect about, no need to get so defensive.

I watched the entire performance live on TV and never once saw his hands make contact with the keys nor did I hear it.

If someone would like to provide a clip proving otherwise, I'll gladly watch it once more.


I wasn't defensive about anyone being right or wrong, I'd like to know what Ray knows about my "agenda".......

If I have to do a video capture to prove it then so be it. He hit a duff note and was the only person touching the keyboard at the time!

Please, I'm not trying to come off cocky, is it on youtube yet? I'd like to have some proof!

Jim Henson once pulled all your strings....

Here tomorrow I guess.

http://teamcoco.com/category/video-category/full-episodes

I didn't think Muppets had strings

...wocka-wocka...

But saying things like Brian "recycled" Kokomo into Tell Me Why is something else though. If you're backtracking anytime you're challenged on your claims, why are you making them?

I will just quote 18th of May's post ; reply # 304  to you on the No Pier Pressure review thread: " this is in keeping with your tone and pattern of the negative- Brian band/everything Brian from your last 40 odd posts. Well done".

I have seen Brian give really lousy performances  on TV before . Tonight was not one of them.

Tell Mike and his family we all said hi.

Woodstock-  You're right. Thank you for responding logically. I got defensive before responding clearly and ended up hurting the view of my opinion.

But Ray & 18th........why am I the one being chastised by the mods here when these kind of remarks are being made?


Never have I encountered a stranger fan base...

uploading right now. Should be ready in 20 minutes unless my WiFi decides to work better.

Much better than the Kimmel performance.  Good, upbeat song choice.  Brian was mixed low but I thought they sold the song, which to me is the point of these appearances...make people want to check out the album.  I wish they could do "Saturday Night" with Nate or "Guess You Had to Be There" with Kacey on national TV soon...

Those would've been much better selections. I think both of those songs and names would yield a greater response on national late night television.

I'll check it out in the morning...thank you!  ;D

Uploaded faster than I thought.  Word of warning. ..language is kind of strong because I started unknowingly slipping into my Righteous Bald Dude character. ..force of habit! :lol

Note...first time using my brand new phone to do a video.  If it comes out upside-down I'll fix it. https://youtu.be/iGJr3IO2vHY

The video was posted upside down, but that's okay cuz RS13 lives in an upside down world  ;D

By morning, the official video will be up which means you must watch it now or all of Billy's work will have been for nothing and then we shall all be damned.  >:D

I'm fixing it now.

To clarify. ..Scott was playing the high ding ding ding parts, Darian was playing the lead. Now *somebody* played the little organ sounding part at the end while Darian was holding one chord down. Scott's hands were away from the keyboard.

And...did anyone ever solve the mystery of what Brian's fingers were touching?  I mean it LOOKED like a keyboard to my, but hey, I had a stroke 4 years ago. Might have been hallucinating. I might have actually been watching Brian have dual hand spasms. Maybe he was molding a clay pot. Might have been texting me with his iPhone. Who knows?

Billy, listening to your commentary was almost more fun than watching the video. Prior to that I hadn't realized that guys could have the advantage of a "third hand" wben playing the keys. Great performance all around, but when watching it upside down, until I turned my laptop around so everything was right side up, both your beard and Sebu's beard looked fake.

 :lol

I think he was Brian was relieving 'pier pressure' with that third hand :lol

This is about 3 weeks' worth of beard growth. Maybe more...lost count. I want to see how long I can grow it before they tell me to cut it off at work!

Hmm… won't be ripping that to MP3 for automotive listening :lol

:lol

Video is fixed now

To be honest, the tracks a cooker.  No wonder Brian's so into it, the sh*t rocks.  

He sounds good, too, you can hear him in the mix.  I'm surprised people don't think they can hear him, because he's sliiiiightly off!  He's always slightly off god bless him.   If he wasn't singing.... he wouldn't be off a little bit.  

Not for me. Still upside down.

I just turned my laptop upside down - problem fixed! MUCH better then the Kimmel performance.

Weird...showing up for me right side up now, on my laptop. Gah. :lol

I'll work on it tomorrow.

Just watched again and noticed two things...Brian's vocals and keyboard is more audible on my video than on the actual show for some reason. ..and also..on my vid, despite my promise, you CAN hear me singing along during the opening :lol

Thank God I was in pitch!!

Nice to see Brian looking so happy and animated.

The effort and energy Brian has put into promoting this album would put a man half his age to shame. He deserves for it to be a decent sized hit.

Stop standing on your heads. Official video released. ;D

http://teamcoco.com/video/brian-wilson-04-08-15

An unusally professional BW tv performance. Bravo.

Rubber r soul

The idea that someone would wonder why Brian was even there is bizarre.

Let's say you don't know who Brian is--well, he is shown singing basically the entire time, with quick shots of the other performers. You wouldn't know which voice belongs to him, and would have no reason to think he was buried in the mix a bit. As far as playing the keys, his hands were moving, not sure what more you'd look for there if you happened to be watching the show. Casual observers are not going to obsessively break it down like that. And if they did, they'd have no reason to suspect anything awry. For good reason, since nothing was.

I think the larger issues in terms of Brian playing keyboards are these two points:

1. We know Brian can play piano/keyboards.
2. Brian doesn’t often do a lot of keyboard playing at live shows

Seriously, the best Brian live performance I’ve ever seen was on the 2000 PS tour. No orchestra for the Saratoga Mountain Winery gig. But we got the full album. Anyway, after the admittedly awkward 1999 shows where he was “pretending” to play the keyboards (even though he actually could have; there’s a classic Beach Boys-style dichotomy there for ya), in 2000 he just sat there and sang. It was marvelous. He often sang with his eyes closed, like he was in the studio singing or something. I’ve gone back recently and listened to a really nice recording of the show (I didn’t make the recording, have no idea who did), and it’s the most “on” I’ve *ever* heard or seen Brian during a show.

Anyway, point is, the keyboard thing is a non-issue. It’s not a matter of ability. It’s more a matter simply of whether you’d prefer Brian to sit on a stool with no keyboard in front of him. I prefer the keyboard there, both visually and for Brian’s sake. Sort of like when McCartney sings with no guitar; it’s kind of awkward and weird.

And yeah, if Brian’s doing a live track where one of the guests is featured prominently, where it’s not a lead vocal trade-off but more a case where Brian provides more backing support, then Brian does kind of start to seem a bit superfluous. But I’m digging that Brian is willing to just do his new album tracks however he wanted. It’s still his album; a song he co-wrote. I’m glad, for instance, that after years of inner-BB politics where you had stuff like Al and Brian at the Hawthorne landmark thing but still not actually singing *together*, Brian could not only have Al on his *solo* album, but use a song as the first single where Al sings pretty much the entire song! Al Jardine doesn’t have a lot of name recognition outside of the BB fan universe. To me, that was Brian simply feeling Al sang the song well, he digs Al’s voice, and let’s just release a good track to kick off the album. Doesn’t matter who’s singing it.

I think Brian really likes the “group” format these days, both in the studio (writing for and assigning lead vocalists) and live in concert (not having to carry the entire show himself). It’s another reason why it was such tragic timing to shoot Brian down in 2012 about wanting to do more BB stuff.

For what it's worth, I've noticed Brian has been playing a lot more on stage ever since c50.

The turning point was actually the 2009 solo tour. He started playing for basically the full length of the show at that point, and has kept it up ever since. (Sometimes he'll only do part of a song, or sit out one tune or another.)

Okay, seriously, who isn't hearing Brian's voice?  There are parts where he's not as prominent in the mix, but I hear him just fine in this performance.  I heard it last night, twice (I recorded and replayed), and again today on Billy's YouTube.  Loved the performance.

I hear Brian alright....

I don't get what the issue is here? I hear Brian singing. He is back a bit, but then he is not the prominent lead singer on this, Sebu is. Does it really matter whether Brian plays or not? With his band it is hardly noticeable either way. Brian should be comfortable whether he is playing or not, and he's most comfortable behind a piano. I liked the performance a lot. The mix was much, much better the Kimmel one.

No doubt about it, Roosterhead's people did a better job with the mix than is often the case with Brian's TV appearances.  I thought he looked and sounded very comfortable with how everything was going. 

Watched again...thank you all for posting!

Brian is noticeably more audible in the first two minutes than the end. As said prior, you can hear him hit a few minuscule clunkers.


I still do not see or hear any activity from Brian's piano. Scott Bennett is responsible for the organ sound, Darian is handling the synthy sounding thing.

The few shots we see of Brian's hands they don't even look like they're on the keys. Would someone like to provide an exact marking where they think this is occurring?

I think I speak for most of us RubberSoul when I say we don't give a sh*t.

Rubbersoul, funny you make up stuff about BW's performance when M&B have spent years not playing instruments while their bar band murders the BBs catalog.

You should never be one to complain. You are even worse when comes to Mike & Bruce. Proved, case in point. ;)

Honestly.

He doesn't touch his keyboard? "He barely sang"? Then what the hell do you call that when his mouth is moving in front of his mic for most of the song? He hit a few minuscule clunkers? The man is 72 years old, still making records, STILL ON TV with a smile on his face after a lifetime of sh*t. Utterly ridiculous to see people pick apart every aspect of this man's life - from the music, to his management, to how he performs on TV. Enjoy this while it lasts, because as Brian sang some 50 years ago, it won't last forever. Some of this new music isn't up to everyone's standards, and so be it. But it seems like some people are more or less just looking for anything to nag about...hoping that something is amiss or wrong so they can post about it here. So he barely touched his keyboard. Who flippin cares?

There's a challenge right there, out of Brian and Bruce who can touch their instrument the least during a performance? Talk about a battle of the Titans.

Why do you have to tear down the band members just because you have an issue with Mike? More importantly,  why even bring M&B into this?

But they are on the keys ... and I already pointed out how there are a couple of times where Scott is not touching the keys, and Darian is holding down a chord. ..yet there is an additional keyboard part playing. Who do you think was playing it? Conan?!

Or hell, don't take my word for it. Ignore the audio/visual evidence as well. the fact you got Darian and Scott's parts mixed up isn't helping. Why not hit up Scott Darian or Nelson in Facebook and ask them yourself? Better yet, I can shoot Jimmy Vivino an email and ask him if Scott Healy played an extra part off camera.

Jesus.

Billy, it's good of you to keep trying to explain this, but it's pretty obvious when someone isn't looking for facts at all, and clearly doesn't have a clue what's going on.  Yet he keeps coming back for more.

sorry, I just get really pissed off when somebody like rubbersoul is pushing an agenda on BW and his band without a simple shred of truth. BW worked his ass off on NPP and he shouldn't be trashed with this garbage.

wow I must say that Brian is back!!!! This footage from Conan shows a Brian back to the Brian of the mid 60's. smiling. moving around, it reminds me of how he was on the Lost Concert dvd.. it's like he's back to his old self again...

Oh, yeah, I know,  and it bothers me too. Just didn't know why you had to slam Mikes band members, when they've done nothing to deserve it. To my knowledge Brian enjoyed playing with Scott T and John.

Seeing Brian smile on stage while performing new songs really warms my heart.

No doubt. He looked and sounded great on Conan. He's doing what he wants, and the results are very positive. And the song is just rockin'. His Bee Gees listening is showing through.

Did anyone else notice Scott's comment on the video?

Brian does play the keyboards today compared to many of his early solo tours (and we discussed this a lot back then) but his confidence has grown over the years so he's up to it.

Its a light style sure, low in the mix obviously, but it happens.

Some shots here from 2012 and no reason to think its not the same today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANoEDZVmpnU

Yup...cool that he responded!

After seeing Brian perform "Runaway Dancer" last night and seeing the live version video from Soundstage, I have to say that I like the live version of RD a whole lot more than I do the studio version. The live version's got soul!


I didn't see any comments on the video. What did Scott say?

From Billy's YT clip.

Scott Bennett4 hours ago
 
Hey Billy, Sabu prepared a track with a drum loop and a couple synth effects. He always performs to track. This was a new thing for us. However, we were all still playing and singing live.
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Guess he had nothing to say about him hitting the keyboard with his boner, though.  ;D

RD is for me the highlight of the album! This one totally surprised me and I'm glad Brian left his usual style by the wayside. I have more than enough CDs with his experimental stuff, traditional BW/BB style, and quirky tracks. This track floored me, and this is what will make him accesible to a totally new audience. I also hope this sets the album in motion to going top 10.

what a fun song, and I love this performance. Is Sabu perhaps a bit weak in his harmony part? A bit strained on the bridge?

Way better than Kimmel, and Conan was so respectful and proper--good for him.

Billy, you're a character (and right), but you did offend my otherwise innocent ears.

Brian is back to his old form.. just compare him from the conan footage and him from the Concert album cover, although older he seems to be back to where he was back then, at least in his face and his eyes.especially his smile.

(http://i59.tinypic.com/23w7hue.jpg)

I cannot get over how convinced everyone is that I have some secret motive to bash Brian and promote Mike and Bruce. It's insane. I will be the first to admit I don't think Bruce makes contact with his keyboard except for "Disney Girls" night after night. On the other side, Mike needs to chuck his instrument in the garbage...that tambourine kills "God Only Knows" every time......



I watched the whole video, Scott Bennett is playing something that soudns like an organ on the upbeats of the chorus in his right hand. I watched them, I'm not mixing anything up. As I previously requested, I'd love to have an exact marking in the video where Brian is playing and nobody else is that you keep referring to.
 

Well besides me saying exactly when during the video,  I now need to go back and do it again?  Sure...if you promise to actually take it this time. Just do me a favor. ..if you're just trolling me, then fess up now,  because I really don't like having my time wasted,  and getting punked is near the bottom of my to do list.

This will have to wait until after dinner though.

At the end of the song Brian says thankyou everyone, thank you very much. I am guessing they just turned his mic on for that then?

Nah...it was Andy Richter practicing his ventriloquist skills:lol

Billy wins the thread. :lol

Thank you very much, I'm here all week, try the veal

Conan's Casio!! It was either that or Benny's Boner!!

I'm staying away from this place for a few days. It just pisses me off to hear people nitpick over minutiae when we're talking about new music at the age of 73 from one of the greatest geniuses in all of music - especially when its the people who should be embracing, valuing and enjoying it most. God, the fucking negativity.

Actually I do feel the same way as you...Brian getting unfairly slammed for something that was not true pissed me off. That said, I've proven my point (at this point it's like describing a rainbow to Stevie Wonder) and will leave it alone going further.

Billy, I apologize...I didn't realize the link you posted had commentary pointing it out, so I didn't even watch it in the first place, I just re-watched the pro-shot from Conan.


Now, after watching yours...Darian's right hand is in the mid-range of his instrument and it looks like it's pressed down to me creating that beautiful maj7 chord.


No. I am NOT trying to "troll" or anything like that. I, like you and others here, am trying to defend my perception....but for some reason I'm the only one being chastised for it.

Yup...and besides Darian's chord, something else was being played.

But in any case I think short of actually hearing each track individually from the soundboard mix, you and I are not going to agree on this, so I'm going to drop it. I think most of the board will agree it'll be for the best. Elnombre is right. Let's both drop it.

Works for me! I wish we could've agreed to disagree earlier on and with a what less disparaging comments from others.


...are there any other promos coming up, or are is Kimmel & Conan it?

Sums it up really!

Hi there, sorry...perhaps I missed it, what exactly did I do to you?...

Doesn't matter. ..and this is directed to everyone. ..we need to bring this back on track. 

So again...looking forward: Any other promo gigs on the horizon?

This is perhaps your greatest opportunity. A single defining moment in your existence.
Most of our lives are made up of perceptions, perceptions of others, our environment and our encounters. These perceptions are neither right nor wrong and are for most the first thought that pops into our minds. Some take some time to process these perceptions look at other factors, facts, reactions etc; and they formulate a thought or a stronger perception. Most perceptions are guided by fear, a fear of acceptance or of something we cannot understand. Most go through a series or process of perception to achieve an outcome. And this is why when you have a perception of something, you never have an outcome. You may think you do but it is still heavily guarded by fear and therefore is never really an outcome for anybody other than yourself.

So in this exercise you have a perception and it's one you have held since your first posts on here. You can NEVER see the outcome!

I can give you specific examples but I hope you can see the pointlessness of doing so with your mindset.

But here is the kicker. What was the outcome of the Conan appearance? And what was the process that lead to the outcome?
Then in each step of the process add your perception of Brian and the song being performed.
Here is an example.
Brian is on Conan tonight-
He will f*** it up again,
it will be auto tuned,
he will sit there and stare at the void in time
I hate this song
Brian is being forced to do this sh*t
He will read the autocue
He will be inaudible...

etc.

I often see it too, I think just about EVERYBODY has that in them (to pull off expressions that make them look like their younger selves), but it's amazing to see Brian do it.  He at times seems so far away from the 20 year old version of himself, but you catch a glimse of it when he smiles and is in a good mood.  "Hey! There's Brian!"