SPOILER!!- Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations from TSS

[pancakerecords]

Lol, like I almost did the day of the Box Set Leak!
I put on Alternate BWPS and meditated for the first time ever, ironically, waiting for H&V to come out, and look!

 

[RadBooley]

I hate to be a bit of a downer here but I've listened to Heroes and Villians a few times now and just find it to be sort of muddy and not terribly clear when in comparison to the version off of Smiley Smile. It's nice that the cantina bit is included and the ending is great too but the entire thing from the vocals to the instrumentals just sounds a bit less clear than what I'm used to hearing.

Am I crazy? I've listened to it through a decent set of earbuds too and can't notice any real improvement in sound quality...

[18thofMay]

I hate to be a bit of a downer here but I've listened to Heroes and Villians a few times now and just find it to be sort of muddy and not terribly clear when in comparison to the version off of Smiley Smile. It's nice that the cantina bit is included and the ending is great too but the entire thing from the vocals to the instrumentals just sounds a bit less clear than what I'm used to hearing.

Am I crazy? I've listened to it through a decent set of earbuds too and can't notice any real improvement in sound quality...

You are crazy

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

I hate to be a bit of a downer here but I've listened to Heroes and Villians a few times now and just find it to be sort of muddy and not terribly clear when in comparison to the version off of Smiley Smile. It's nice that the cantina bit is included and the ending is great too but the entire thing from the vocals to the instrumentals just sounds a bit less clear than what I'm used to hearing.

Am I crazy? I've listened to it through a decent set of earbuds too and can't notice any real improvement in sound quality...

I slightly agree, but then again, don't talk about quality till we've heard a lossless WAV (on the cds!)

[thevigilanteoflove]

I love the new Heroes and Villains mix! And I'm just now realizing that from now on when I listen to this song, or introduce this song to people, or eventually show my kids this music, it's going to be this version. Although the purple chick version sounds much clearer, that is probably just because it's in stereo. This is Heroes and Villains from the master tapes and I love it. Good Vibrations as well. So glad they kept the original lyrics and didn't use Asher's. When I saw the track length I was a little nervous. I'm not sure why they didn't just use the original single mix remastered, as that would have likely been the one used on the album, but oh well it still sounds great and it's something new.

[Steve Mayo]

damn....went to work in dad's garden tonight and just got home. missed all this...... lol
just my luck

[rab2591]

damn....went to work in dad's garden tonight and just got home. missed all this...... lol
just my luck

Just my luck: I go on vacation the day the set goes on amazon. Thankfully, I ordered the boxset at $110 from my cellphone lol. But I'm sad i've missed all the conversation! Really glad this is coming out, this set looks AMAZING!!!

Can't wait to listen to these new tracks (still on vacation haha).

[bossaroo]

so glad we have an official expanded version of Good Vibrations. i agree the single would have gone on the album in '67, but it's not '67 is it? the original single has been released plenty of times.


i gotta say, aside from sound quality, i still prefer my own personal 'H&V' mix. 

[theCOD]

Also: Sure, anyone else for MOJO?

Yes, please! 

[lance]

I've just loaded it into iTunes, Sure enough, the metadata was there, TRACK 3- THE SMiLE SESSIONS!

Also... If you can't get it on the site... PM Me....

Hi, I can't get on the site...well, I can, but I can't do anything, can't even sign up...I would like a pm...

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

Alright, there's a mediafire link on page 2, please use that.
Also: I can't give out any more MOJO 45 mp3s because I don't
Feel right about that... So if anyone wants it please ask someone who already has it.

Thanks
I just can't copy and paste those 3 links a million times! Haha

[monicker]

I wonder why the little theremin part got replaced by the toy siren (which sounds really shrill).

What do you all think of the extra silence before the chorus? And the added reverb?

I feel weird tonight. Somethings seems a little off. I think my brain is feeling the culmination of five straight days of absolute overload. Where is reality?

[Shady]

On youtube already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ck7iQxsk0

[Jay]

Have I somehow stepped into an alternate reality? Or is this heaven? Am I alive or dead? If this is all a weird dream, please don't wake me up. I didn't even listen to it with headphones, but it still damn near lept out of the computer speakers at me. I don't think I've ever heard something sound so good in my whole life.

[Jay]

Please don't post bootlegs.

[The Song Of The Grange]

This is actually not even a leak. It was put out by Capitol themselves.
So... It should be alright to post a link: http://www.mediafire.com/?z1ihxrro9wh5zv1

Thanks so much for this link clasclas!

[monicker]

WHY does the toy whistle come in so early?! THEY ARE FUKKING WITH OUR HEADS.

[ghost]

I don't really like the humbedum part of Good Vibrations. There was a reason it wasn't included in the single. Heroes and Villains sounds soulless without the Baldwin. These are my current thoughts.

[ghost]

We are the chosen few

[Mr. Cohen]

It's interesting that they decided to push up the backing vocals on "Heroes & Villains". It creates a decent leap in volume at 0:20 that's not there on the Smiley Smile version (where the background vocals are mixed lower). It's a different effect. I wonder if they're basing this new approach on a vintage Brian mix, or simply because they thought it sounded good?  Either way, I'm not complaining... I just wonder how they made these decisions.

[guitarfool2002]

The Heroes version on this official YouTube link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ck7iQxsk0

Go to 1:26 into the track...what's with that edit? You can still hear the fluttertone horn from another section, and it sounds like one of the "La's" got snipped.

Is any of this a Brian edit from '67? If so, it may explain it since the higher quality audio reveals those edits and things that could be buried in '67. If not, I'm confused at what that might be...

That beautiful string coda is and always will be one of my favorite Smile sections or pieces of music in general. Best quality yet...awesome.

[Mr. Cohen]

Go to 1:26 into the track...what's with that edit? You can still hear the fluttertone horn from another section, and it sounds like one of the "La's" got snipped.

Hmmm... I don't think any la's got snipped. And what you're actually hearing isn't the 'fluttertone' horn, but part of the original chorus arrangement that was previously buried by the organ overdub. I'm thinking it's a cello or some other string instrument making the noise, or maybe even a horn. Or both. I'm not sure.

[Mike's Beard]

Both sound great, esp the backing vocals on H&V which sound much less muddy than before. But isn't using parts of Smiley Smile recordings going against the concept of The Smile Sessions?

[guitarfool2002]

Go to 1:26 into the track...what's with that edit? You can still hear the fluttertone horn from another section, and it sounds like one of the "La's" got snipped.

Hmmm... I don't think any la's got snipped. And what you're actually hearing isn't the 'fluttertone' horn, but part of the original chorus arrangement that was previously buried by the organ overdub. I'm thinking it's a cello or some other string instrument making the noise, or maybe even a horn. Or both. I'm not sure.

It's the fluttertone horn note trailing off, and the hard consonant "L" of the La gets cut. I know what I heard.

Go back to the Smiley Smile 2-fer, and find track 23, the "alternate mix" of Heroes which I believe was a Chuck Britz mixdown.

Cue it up from exactly :18  to :25 into that track and you'll hear the exact same fluttertone extended over the verses. Not a cello, but the horn. On subsequent edits heard on the Britz mix, the fluttertone is heard then the trail-off is lopped off leading into other sections. That trail-off horn note is what the edit I pointed out on the "new" track seems to be. Hear those shortened horn notes at exactly :42 and 1:55 on that Britz mixdown. It may be a case where Brian did a primitive ProTools editing method there, where he'd use the same verse track, copy and paste it using razor blade editing (using real analog tape of course in 66-67), and record new verses over the same instrumental bed. He did it on Smiley Smile too.

[monicker]

Go to 1:26 into the track...what's with that edit? You can still hear the fluttertone horn from another section

That's always been there, you can hear it on the Smiley version.

and it sounds like one of the "La's" got snipped.

I wouldn't say sniped, but the Smiley edit sounds cleaner to me than this one. Also, on a side note, the equivalent sections of the Smiley version have more energy than this one. Do an A/B. Also, i really miss the "circus" organ phrases at the end of the verses. They're so damn good.

That beautiful string coda is and always will be one of my favorite Smile sections or pieces of music in general. Best quality yet...awesome.

Yeah. It gives me the chills in this version.

But the hum de dum part of GV is my favorite piece of music in existence. Needless to say, i am happy about its inclusion.