MiC up for order on Amazon, August release

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I've always liked "Don't Go Near the Water" for several reasons.  I like the way how opening Surf's Up it sort of answers "Cool, Cool Water" closing off Sunflower (I like to believe this was intentional).  I like Al's vocal on the bridge and I love the harmonies on the tag which despite having little to no involvement in the song sound like classic Brian Wilson harmonies.

I know we were talking about harmonies, but didn't Brian play the piano on the track?

[Bicyclerider]

Anyone else notice that Surf's Up 1967 is noted as a 2012 mix? What does that mean??? Is it another take? Same track different mix? Or just a typo?

IIRC they found two different takes by Brian from the Wild Honey sessions. This might be that other take.

Actually I thought it was THREe runs-through that Alan and Mark found.

Whether three takes or four, the Smile sessions  67 Surf's Up was pieced together from several takes.  I assume a 2012 mix means they've reedited  the track differently from the takes available - it's not an alternate take in its' entirety because then it wouldn't be a remix.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

^ Referring to the Wild Honey 'Surf's Up'?

[monicker]

Anyone else notice that Surf's Up 1967 is noted as a 2012 mix? What does that mean??? Is it another take? Same track different mix? Or just a typo?

IIRC they found two different takes by Brian from the Wild Honey sessions. This might be that other take.

Actually I thought it was THREe runs-through that Alan and Mark found.

Whether three takes or four, the Smile sessions  67 Surf's Up was pieced together from several takes.  I assume a 2012 mix means they've reedited  the track differently from the takes available - it's not an alternate take in its' entirety because then it wouldn't be a remix.

Maybe they fixed that clunky edit at 2:05 

[Mike's Beard]

I've always liked "Don't Go Near the Water" for several reasons.  I like the way how opening Surf's Up it sort of answers "Cool, Cool Water" closing off Sunflower (I like to believe this was intentional).  I like Al's vocal on the bridge and I love the harmonies on the tag which despite having little to no involvement in the song sound like classic Brian Wilson harmonies.

I know we were talking about harmonies, but didn't Brian play the piano on the track?

That's what I remember reading. I think the only two Surf's Up tracks Brian had no involvement in were STD and Looking At Tomorrow.

[Disney Boy (1985)]

Just pre-ordered MIC on Amazon. Although it quotes the price at £100+, they actually charged me £85.

[Disney Boy (1985)]

Nice overview from spincds.com. My apologies if it's already been posted.


Made in California (6CD Box)

by The Beach Boys

One small problem with this - he's patently not heard a note of the actual set but wrote that from the trackliating and a passing knowledge with maybe a few forums. Thus, except for total newbies, this 'overview' is entirely pointless. "YLTLF", btw, is NOT a 15BO outtake, so how knowledgeable the dood is, is open to question.

Yeah, shame on him. You'd think he'd realize that the set is geared mainly to the casual fan, containing all the hits and deep cuts with some rarities. Oh wait, he does.

Geez AGD, you've done almost nothing in this thread but chastise people who aren't happy with the set. Now, someone writes a glowing article and you run them down. Guess some people just love to bask in misery.

All I can say is Fake Beard  

Nope, he didn't write a glowing article - he just looked at the tracklist, and the press release, and regurgitated what he saw there: no insight, nothing to make you think. Rank bad journalism.

As for the chastising, sure, I think these people are ungrateful reprobates. Here's my advice for them - you don't like the lineup, or think it's too expensive, don't buy it. There - fixed that for you. Oh, I also take issue with some of the unfounded assumptions regarding the inclusion/exclusion of certain tracks that have attained semi-official status here. Going on past releases, I think the band are being credited with far more direct involvement than is actually the case. Think about that.

What I don't get is people complaining about songs that haven't been included that they've already heard and most likely already own i.e. Carry Me Home, Stevie, Big Sur, etc. Now sure, I get it, it'd be nice to hear songs like this with better sound, but if it's a choice between hearing a Beach Boys song I already own in better quality, or hearing a Beach Boys song that I've never ever heard before, well sh*t, I know which I go for... There's a lot of stuff on this box that none of us (except the insiders) have ever heard before, but instead of going 'Wow, Barnyard Blues, wonder what that's going to be like?' or 'Man, extended Meant For You - can't wait!', people are just going 'What gives? No My Solution?'. Assume the compilers know what they're doing and reserve judgement until you've actually heard this stuff.

[Nicko1234]

What I don't get is people complaining about songs that haven't been included that they've already heard and most likely already own i.e. Carry Me Home, Stevie, Big Sur, etc. Now sure, I get it, it'd be nice to hear songs like this with better sound, but if it's a choice between hearing a Beach Boys song I already own in better quality, or hearing a Beach Boys song that I've never ever heard before, well sh*t, I know which I go for... There's a lot of stuff on this box that none of us (except the insiders) have ever heard before, but instead of going 'Wow, Barnyard Blues, wonder what that's going to be like?' or 'Man, extended Meant For You - can't wait!', people are just going 'What gives? No My Solution?'. Assume the compilers know what they're doing and reserve judgement until you've actually heard this stuff.

But I don't think anyone has said, 'we should have Carry Me Home instead of Barnyard Blues'. I think people have said, 'Carry Me Home (for example) would have been preferable to a new mix of Brian's Back or to a session intro for Surfers Rule.'

[The Shift]

Just pre-ordered MIC on Amazon. Although it quotes the price at £100+, they actually charged me £85.

How d'ya manage that? Charged me £100+…

[AndrewHickey]

Just pre-ordered MIC on Amazon. Although it quotes the price at £100+, they actually charged me £85.

How d'ya manage that? Charged me £100+…

The price is actually £83.67, with £16.73 VAT (well, actually actually 2p more than that at the moment, but that's what my order said before the 2p price rise). If Disney Boy has somehow managed not to have to pay the VAT, that would be right.

[Andrew G. Doe]

THEY'VE INCREASED THE PRICE BY 2P ??!?!!!!

Well that's a complete outrage, I certainly won't be buy it at such a ridiculous price - how can they possibly justify this  We should all boycott Amazon, Capitol Records, The Beach Boys and the entire music industry forthwith. They can't be allowed to get away with such unacceptable behavior.  

[AndrewHickey]

THEY'VE INCREASED THE PRICE BY 2P ??!?!!!!

Well that's a complete outrage, I certainly won't be buy it at such a ridiculous price - how can they possibly justify this  We should all boycott Amazon, Capitol Records, The Beach Boys and the entire music industry forthwith. They can't be allowed to get away with such unacceptable behavior.  

I absolutely agree. I'm going to start an online petition, and as soon as the box set comes out I'm going to give it a one-star review on Amazon.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Why wait ? Do it now - as has been pointed out here by far more knowledgeable fans than I, it's two-thirds hits anyway, so obviously no need to actually listen to it.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Just for yucks, and setting aside for a moment the fact that we're all a bunch of geeks with collections far larger that they legally should be, below please find listed the material on the box which will be new to John Q. Public.

CD 1
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1.    Home Recordings / "Surfin'" Rehearsal Highlights (2012 Edit - Mono)
2.    Surfin' (with Session Intro - Mono)
3.    Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring (Demo - Mono)
4.    Surfin' Safari (Original Mono Long Version)
5.    409 (Original Mono Long Version)
6.    Lonely Sea (Original Mono Mix)
7.    Surfin' U.S.A.
8.    Shut Down (2003 Stereo Mix)
9.    Surfer Girl
10.   Little Deuce Coupe
11.   Catch A Wave
12.   Our Car Club
13.   Surfers Rule (with Session Intro)
14.   In My Room
15.   Back Home
16.   Be True To Your School (Mono Single Version)
17.   Ballad Of Ole' Betsy
18.   Little Saint Nick (Stereo Single Version)
19.   Fun, Fun, Fun (Mono Single Version)
20.   Little Honda
21.   Don't Worry Baby (2009 Stereo Mix)
22.   Why Do Fools Fall In Love (2009 Stereo Mix)
23.   The Warmth Of The Sun
24.   I Get Around (with Session Intro - Mono)
25.   Wendy (2007 Stereo Mix)
26.   All Summer Long (2007 Stereo Mix)
27.   Girls On The Beach
28.   Don't Back Down
29.   When I Grow Up (To Be A Man) (2012 Stereo Mix)
30.   All Dressed Up For School (Mono)
31.   Please Let Me Wonder (2007 Stereo Mix)
32.   Kiss Me, Baby (2000 Stereo Mix)
33.   In The Back of My Mind (2012 Stereo Mix)
34.   Dance, Dance, Dance (2003 Stereo Mix)
 
 
 
CD 2
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1.    Do You Wanna Dance (2012 Stereo Mix)
2.    Help Me, Rhonda (Mono Single Version)
3.    California Girls (2002 Stereo Mix)
4.    Amusement Parks USA (Early Version)
5.    Salt Lake City (2001 Stereo Mix)
6.    Let Him Run Wild (2007 Stereo Mix)
7.    Graduation Day (Session Excerpt and Master Take, 2012 Mix)
8.    The Little Girl I Once Knew (Mono)
9.    There's No Other (Like My Baby) (2012 "Unplugged" Mix with Party Session
      Intro)
10.   Barbara Ann (2012 Stereo Mix)
11.   Radio Spot "Wonderful KYA" (Mono)
12.   Sloop John B (1996 Stereo Mix)
13.   Wouldn't It Be Nice (2001 Stereo Mix)
14.   God Only Knows (1996 Stereo Mix)
15.   I Just Wasn't Made For These Times (1996 Stereo Mix)
16.   Caroline No (1996 Stereo Mix)
17.   Good Vibrations (Mono)
18.   Our Prayer (2012 "Smile Sessions" Stereo Mix)
19.   Heroes And Villains: Part 1 ("Smile Sessions" Mix - Mono)
20.   Heroes And Villains: Part 2 ("Smile Sessions" Mix - Mono)
21.   Vega-Tables ("Smile Sessions" Stereo Mix)
22.   Wind Chimes ("Smile Sessions" Stereo Mix)
23.   The Elements: Fire (Mrs. O'Leary's Cow) ("Smile Sessions" Mix - Mono)
24.   Cabin Essence ("Smile Sessions" Mix - Mono)
25.   Heroes And Villains (2012 Stereo Mix)
26.   Wonderful (2012 Stereo Mix)
27.   Country Air (2012 Stereo Mix)
28.   Wild Honey (2012 Stereo Mix)
 
 
 
CD 3
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1.    Darlin' (2012 Stereo Mix)
2.    Let The Wind Blow (2001 Stereo Mix)
3.    Meant For You (Alternate Version)
4.    Friends
5.    Little Bird
6.    Busy Doin' Nothin'
7.    Sail Plane Song (2012 Stereo Mix)
8.    We're Together Again (2012 Stereo Mix)
9.    Radio Spot "Murray The K" (Mono)
10.   Do It Again (2012 Stereo Mix)
11.   Old Man River (Vocal Section)
12.   Be With Me
13.   I Can Hear Music
14.   Time To Get Alone
15.   I Went To Sleep
16.   Can't Wait Too Long (A Cappella)
17.   Break Away (Alternate Version)
18.   Celebrate The News
19.   Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) (Single Version, 2001 Stereo Mix)
20.   Susie Cincinnati (2012 Mix)
21.   Good Time
22.   Slip On Through
23.   Add Some Music To Your Day
24.   This Whole World
25.   Forever
26.   It's About Time
27.   Soulful Old Man Sunshine
28.   Fallin' In Love (2009 Stereo Mix)
29.   Sound Of Free (Mono Single Version)
30.   'Til I Die
31.   Surf's Up
 
 
 
CD 4
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1.    Don't Go Near The Water
2.    Disney Girls (1957)
3.    Feel Flows
4.    (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again
5.    Marcella
6.    All This Is That
7.    Sail On Sailor
8.    The Trader
9.    California Saga (On My Way To Sunny Californ-I-A)
10.   Rock And Roll Music (2012 Mix w/Extra Verse)
11.   It's OK (Alternate Mix)
12.   Had To Phone Ya
13.   Let Us Go On This Way
14.   I'll Bet He's Nice
15.   Solar System
16.   The Night Was So Young
17.   It's Over Now (Alternate Mix)
18.   Come Go With Me
19.   California Feelin'
20.   Brian's Back (Alternate Mix)
21.   Good Timin'
22.   Angel Come Home
23.   Baby Blue
24.   It's A Beautiful Day (Single Edit) (2012 Mix)
25.   Goin' To The Beach
 
 
 
CD 5
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1.     Goin' On
2.     Why Don't They Let Us Fall In Love
3.     Da Doo Ron Ron
4.     Getcha Back
5.     California Dreamin'
6.     Kokomo
7.     Soul Searchin'
8.     You're Still A Mystery
9.     That's Why God Made The Radio
10.    Isn't It Time (Single Version)
 THE BEACH BOYS LIVE:
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11.    Runaway (Chicago 1965 -- w/Concert Promo Intro - Mono)
12.    You're So Good To Me (Paris 1966 - Mono)
13.    The Letter (Hawaii Rehearsal 1967)
14.    Friends (Chicago 1968 - Mono)
15.    Little Bird (Chicago 1968 - Mono)
16.    All I Want To Do (London 1968)
17.    Help Me, Rhonda (New Jersey 1972)
18.    Wild Honey (New Jersey 1972)
19.    Only With You (New York 1972)
20.    It's About Time (Chicago 1973)
21.    I Can Hear Music (Maryland 1975)
22.    Vegetables (New York 1993)
23.    Wonderful (New York 1993)
24.    Sail On Sailor (Louisville 1995)
25.    Summer In Paradise (Wembley 1993)
 
 
 
CD 6
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FROM THE VAULTS:
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1.     Radio Spot (1966 -- Mono)
2.     Slip On Through (A Cappella Mix)
3.     Don't Worry Baby (Stereo Session Outtake w/ Alternate Lead Vocal)
4.     Pom Pom Play Girl (Vocal Session Highlight)
5.     Guess I'm Dumb (Instrumental Track w/Background Vocals)
6.     Sherry She Needs Me (1965 Track w/1976 Vocal)
7.     Mona Kana (Instrumental Track)
8.     This Whole World (A Cappella)
9.     Where Is She?
10.    Had To Phone Ya (Instrumental Track)
11.    SMiLE Backing Vocals Montage (from "The Smile Sessions")
12.    Good Vibrations (Stereo Track Sections)
13.    Be With Me (Demo)
14.    I Believe In Miracles (Vocal Section)
15.    Why (Instrumental Track)
16.    Barnyard Blues
17.    Don't Go Near The Water (Instrumental Track)
18.    You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
19.    Transcendental Meditation (Instrumental Track)
20.    Our Sweet Love (Vocals w/Strings)
21.    Back Home (1970 Version)
22.    California Feelin' (Original Demo)
23.    California Girls ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version)
24.    Help You, Rhonda ("Lei'd In Hawaii" Studio Version)
25.    Surf's Up (1967 Version) (2012 Mix)
26.    My Love Lives On
27.    Radio Spot (1964 - Mono)
28.    Wendy (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono)
29.    When I Grow Up (To Be A Man) (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono)
30.    Hushabye (BBC -- Live in the Studio 1964 - Mono)
31.    Carl Wilson: Coda (2013 Edit)

[AndrewHickey]

Just two questions about that list -- do we know that the live SIP is different from the legally released version? And is Surf's Up (2012 mix) definitely different from the Smile Sessions mix?

[Freddie French-Pounce]

How many people who bought TSS actually played the vinyl? As someone who is not set up with turntables, I might as well have been buying four pieces of black plastic. Always felt a little ripped off by that myself ...

Actually, I played the vinyl first...starting with the two 45s.

I played the H&V 45, The LP [bar side 4] and the Vega 45. Then the CDs from You're Welcome.

I've played the LP many many mnay MANY mroe times than the CD or digital file.

And Apparently I have 9 Kokomo's and
48 BARBARA-FLIPPIN'-ANN'S

[hypehat]

Yeah, I went straight to the LP - then the first CD bonus tracks, and continued.

£100? Ooh... NO, I DON'T NEED ANOTHER CLUNKY BOX IN MY LIFE. Especially with the Nilsson one inbound. I buy much more and no-one will ever help me move ever again. 

[AndrewHickey]

Yeah, I went straight to the LP - then the first CD bonus tracks, and continued.

£100? Ooh... NO, I DON'T NEED ANOTHER CLUNKY BOX IN MY LIFE. Especially with the Nilsson one inbound. I buy much more and no-one will ever help me move ever again. 

Heh. I've got the Nilsson box, a 4-CD live Zappa box, and two Monkees boxes all ordered and on their way, as well as this. My attempts to stop buying physical media are obviously not all that successful...

[Andrew G. Doe]

I don't even want to think about how many copies of "WIBN" I have...

[SonicVolcano]

I wonder if all the tracks that weren't part of the latest remaster series have been remastered for this box set? Tracks from Friends, 20/20, So Tough, Holland etc.

[hypehat]

On the tracklist, it does say when a lot of them were remastered! I'm guessing that they are 2001 mixes if they don't say otherwise.

[AndrewHickey]

I don't even want to think about how many copies of "WIBN" I have...

Not counting physical releases, I have 62 versions of Barbara Ann on my computer. I hate Barbara Ann.

[petzounds29]

 Does anyone have an idea what or who wrote I Believe In Miracles ?

[The Shift]

I don't even want to think about how many copies of "WIBN" I have...

… and how many copies of (WIBN)TLA?   Btw, I'll sub you the tuppence, if it helps   

[Andrew G. Doe]

I don't even want to think about how many copies of "WIBN" I have...

… and how many copies of (WIBN)TLA?   Btw, I'll sub you the tuppence, if it helps   

Just the two... just the two.