Brian Wilson...Pro-Choice Activist?

[rab2591]

Honestly, I could not care less what any male thinks about abortion.  
The proposotion that men could in any conceivable way understand the choice and nuances of abortion is ludicrous and  the subject should be left to women to decide, whether as a whole or as an individual.

Women definitely should have the majority of say/sway when it comes to this topic. But leaving a key member of the procreating process out of the discussion/decision on the continuation of life entirely is quite drastic.

[Mike's Beard]

With all the birth control choices that are out there, abortion in this day and age should be a rare thing.

[Mike's Beard]

Also when we say 'it's a woman's choice', is that a blanket statement? Does it apply equally to the woman who fell pregnant because she failed to use contraceptive measures and sees having a child as an inconvenience as the woman who has been told her child has a birth defect or that she may die bringing the baby to term? Where's the line drawn?

[Fire Wind]

Honestly, I could not care less what any male thinks about abortion. 
The proposotion that men could in any conceivable way understand the choice and nuances of abortion is ludicrous and  the subject should be left to women to decide, whether as a whole or as an individual.

A touch harsh.  I'm not particularly pro- or anti- about it, but men can suffer grief over their lost child and need to go through the mourning process, just like the mother might.  I've known of some guys to be traumatised over it.  Even if it's a bundle of cells, the mind still recognises it as loss.

[Rocky Raccoon]

An abortion doesn't necessarily need to be something to grieve over as no life has started so no life is lost.  If a man is upset over that, he's just upset that the woman wouldn't have his child, that she wouldn't be his incubator.  In the end, it's the woman's decision.  While I don't necessarily consider abortion a positive experience either, I found this woman's point of view fairly interesting.

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/15/there_is_so_much_shame_emily_letts_on_why_she_filmed_her_abortion_and_what_happened_next/

[Bean Bag]

An abortion doesn't necessarily need to be something to grieve over as no life has started so no life is lost.

What has started then that so needed to be finished?

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An abortion doesn't necessarily need to be something to grieve over as no life has started so no life is lost.

What has started then that so needed to be finished?

A problem.

[Fire Wind]

An abortion doesn't necessarily need to be something to grieve over as no life has started so no life is lost.  If a man is upset over that, he's just upset that the woman wouldn't have his child, that she wouldn't be his incubator. 

But if a woman can feel the sense of loss post-abortion (they have cousellors for it in the article), why would not a man?  If it's not something to grieve over, why would a women feel grief?  Natural feelings can't just be rationalised away, only managed and coped with.

I'm not making a pro-life argument here.  I put it in the category of stuff I wouldn't do, but other people can do what they want.

[Mike's Beard]

When does a human offically become a human? When it starts to look like one? When there's brain activity? When the sperm enters the egg?  Everyone's milage differs on this.

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[Bean Bag]

An abortion doesn't necessarily need to be something to grieve over as no life has started so no life is lost.

What has started then that so needed to be finished?

A problem.

Unless you're leading me on, I'm simply more compassionate than that.

[Bean Bag]

When does a human offically become a human? When it starts to look like one? When there's brain activity? When the sperm enters the egg?  Everyone's milage differs on this.

Why trouble one's self with such details, nuance and unquenchable philosophical dexterity -- I say.

Once it's on, it's on. 

[Bean Bag]

An abortion doesn't necessarily need to be something to grieve over as no life has started so no life is lost.  If a man is upset over that, he's just upset that the woman wouldn't have his child, that she wouldn't be his incubator. 

But if a woman can feel the sense of loss post-abortion (they have cousellors for it in the article), why would not a man?  If it's not something to grieve over, why would a women feel grief?  Natural feelings can't just be rationalised away, only managed and coped with.

I'm not making a pro-life argument here.  I put it in the category of stuff I wouldn't do, but other people can do what they want.

The irony that Rocky is assuaging that one gender's emotions are irrelevant is dreadfully short-sighted.  And makes my point -- why believe that such winds would ever shift (or stay) in your favor ladies?  What fickle emotions and convictions they proclaim!

As mentioned earlier... an unborn child COULD be a problem, is the view they share.  So... at what point do you say... "when's the moment they really care for people?"  What's the catalyst for triggering their "everlasting" compassion?

 

If it's not real now -- when is it ever.  Ask.

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Living is easy with eyes closed, Hal.

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Living is easy with eyes closed, Hal.

Tell me something I don't know.

My middle initial is "R".

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[Bean Bag]

Living is easy with eyes closed, Hal.

Sadly, most executioner masks I've seen have eye-holes, though.  Ironical, eh?

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