"Made in California" Box Set

[I. Spaceman]

Despite massively wanting to hear Wouldn't it be nice to live again, and pretty much every recorded note of Dennis material that exists, I'd almost equally love to hear clean versions of some of the boot stuff we all know and love. Carry Me Home/Sherry She Needs Me/Stevie rate up there with the best Beach Boys music, and they are only known from hissy sounding roughs.

RE: I've got a friend, isn't the Luxembourg version from a radio broadcast? Has anyone tried to track down the source tape? Would be amazing to hear a clear version of this song.

Personally I can do without ANY updated mixes of material the Beach Boys put out in the sixties/seventies, and I'd much rather see live/unreleased stuff come out

Stereo isn't what a Brian Wilson produced record is about. The Beach Boys sixties work was perfect the way it was. I have often been called a heathen for this view, glad someone else agrees with me.

Absolutely.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

I prefer mixes that sound good to me. Some are in mono, some are in stereo. Some mono mixes sound like ass, some stereo mixes sound like ass.

imo.

Dat.

[Disney Boy (1985)]

Despite massively wanting to hear Wouldn't it be nice to live again, and pretty much every recorded note of Dennis material that exists, I'd almost equally love to hear clean versions of some of the boot stuff we all know and love. Carry Me Home/Sherry She Needs Me/Stevie rate up there with the best Beach Boys music, and they are only known from hissy sounding roughs.

RE: I've got a friend, isn't the Luxembourg version from a radio broadcast? Has anyone tried to track down the source tape? Would be amazing to hear a clear version of this song.

Personally I can do without ANY updated mixes of material the Beach Boys put out in the sixties/seventies, and I'd much rather see live/unreleased stuff come out

Agreed! It'd be nice if - amongst all the clamour to release WIBNTLA - they also remembered to include Carry Me Home as well, another Dennis masterpiece. Shocking that songs of this quality are still languishing in the vaults. How about giving us BOTH, if that's not too much to ask? (I can quite easily picture certain band members poo-pooing Carry Me Home's inclusion however - ''The Beach Boys are supposed to be a fun band, this isn't what we're about, this isn't what people want, etc etc''.)

[Jukka]

Nothing against proper remixes, as long as the original mixes are still available somewhere. But if some some (any!) unreleased studio tracks are dropper from the box set to make room for remixes and backing tracks, I see red! I want it all, from WIBNTLA to Battle Hymn, from Everybody Wants To Live to Cocaine Sessions!

[Cabinessenceking]

Nothing against proper remixes, as long as the original mixes are still available somewhere. But if some some (any!) unreleased studio tracks are dropper from the box set to make room for remixes and backing tracks, I see red! I want it all, from WIBNTLA to Battle Hymn, from Everybody Wants To Live to Cocaine Sessions!

Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that the box will contain unreleased material along with hits? I would not care if a new live version or remix of California Girls ever happened, I'm dead tired of that song and the fact that it and others in its vein must be included everywhere.
Made In California should be about what you say: unreleased songs and live cuts, and those live cuts should be songs they performed rarely or only at a certain point. I dont care if Little Deuce Coupe live is from 1974, I fking hate it when placed next to their contemporary output. Leave the early hits off this box IMO!

[Jay]

I think The Beach Boys should follow The Doors and the Hendrix estate, and form a "record company" that releases nothing but 100% unreleased material.

[runnersdialzero]

They're not gonna back down from including hits. It just ain't gonna happen, at this point. I have to agree, though. I cannot imagine being a collector when it comes to this band, and I'm puzzled by Capitol's endless hits regurgitations released year after year. No one needs a 23rd "remastered" version of "Surfin' USA", y'know? 50 Big Ones still somehow doesn't feel especially definitive to me even though the tracklist is okay (but not great).

If anything, I hope some of said hits at least include the occasional remix. I know it's blasphemy, but some of these vintage mixes just don't serve the songs well. I'm thinking less of their mid 60s stuff which usually sees stereo remixes and more of some songs from the 70s or 80s that lose something due to flat mixes that don't really serve the song well. I'm not looking for super modern mixes or anything of the sort, just something that does the song a little more justice. Think "Keepin' The Summer Alive" or something. It's not 1965 Brian Wilson jaw-on-the-floor incredible, but it's good and enjoyable enough. I hear Carl's vocal and there's still this sense of "I'm still young, I still have plenty to prove, I'm still vital", but the end result downplays that a great deal. It's a rock song, and unfortunately, the mix doesn't "rock" at all and doesn't serve the song well. Keep the original in circulation, on the album, but would I mind a remix of such a song? f*** naw, d00d. More organic mixes of something like "Getcha Back"? Sounds good to me. I know it's total blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind such remixes at all.

[Ebb and Flow]

More organic mixes of something like "Getcha Back"? Sounds good to me. I know it's total blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind such remixes at all.

An acapella mix or stripped down version of Getcha Back would be awesome.  Virtually any remix that stripped away the 80's production of BB85 and later material would be awesome.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

More organic mixes of something like "Getcha Back"? Sounds good to me. I know it's total blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind such remixes at all.

An acapella mix or stripped down version of Getcha Back would be awesome.  Virtually any remix that stripped away the 80's production of BB85 and later material would be awesome.

That project would be amazing.
Look at double fantasy!

[hypehat]

The thing with that is that, unlike Double Fantasy, I don't think there's a lot of acoustic or non-synthesised sound on BB's 85. All the drums sound like machines, synths carry a lot of the action, not too many guitars....

That said, if they did a remix of 'It's Gettin' Late', I'd be on it like sonic.

[BergenWhitesMoustache]

More organic mixes of something like "Getcha Back"? Sounds good to me. I know it's total blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind such remixes at all.

An acapella mix or stripped down version of Getcha Back would be awesome.  Virtually any remix that stripped away the 80's production of BB85 and later material would be awesome.

That project would be amazing.
Look at double fantasy!

I'd have more confidence in the ability of anyone in The Beach Boys organisation to do a good job of this, had I not just heard their idea of a radio friendly version of 'Isn't it Time', because that's straight up worse than any BB production from the eightes.

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

The thing with that is that, unlike Double Fantasy, I don't think there's a lot of acoustic or non-synthesised sound on BB's 85. All the drums sound like machines, synths carry a lot of the action, not too many guitars....

That said, if they did a remix of 'It's Gettin' Late', I'd be on it like sonic.

Sonic. That's my childhood right there.

[Aegir]

More organic mixes of something like "Getcha Back"? Sounds good to me. I know it's total blasphemy, but I wouldn't mind such remixes at all.

An acapella mix or stripped down version of Getcha Back would be awesome.  Virtually any remix that stripped away the 80's production of BB85 and later material would be awesome.

That project would be amazing.
Look at double fantasy!

I'd have more confidence in the ability of anyone in The Beach Boys organisation to do a good job of this, had I not just heard their idea of a radio friendly version of 'Isn't it Time', because that's straight up worse than any BB production from the eightes.

Completely agreed.

[Summertime Blooz]

Well heck, maybe the Beach Boys should just do an Unplugged album of only stuff that was recorded post- Holland. How's that sound?

[FatherOfTheMan Sr101]

I'd pay for the session time.

[smilethebeachboysloveyou]

All this talk of wanting stripped down versions of TBBs '85 confuses me.  Yes, the production is dated, but in some ways it's the only thing interesting about the album.  There isn't very much artistic merit in the songs themselves, but the clash between definitively '80s style production and the band's attempts to recreate their former sound is at least an interesting historical document if not a musical masterpiece.  But there's so little substance that if you stripped the songs down there would be nothing left.  The problem is lack of good songwriting much more than anything else.

[runnersdialzero]

True, but a fresh reworking of something from the album that's actually decent (i.e. "Getcha Back") with a simpler arrangement that aims to be a little more timeless wouldn't be the worst listening experience. I mean yeah, you'll still have Mike's "Maybeh treat u like a MOOOVIE STAR" sh*t, but it could be a cool listen. If it doesn't, hay, that's cool, too.

But keep Brian's '85 falsetto recording. Don't you dare give that to Jeff >: (

[SMiLE Brian]

True, but a fresh reworking of something from the album that's actually decent (i.e. "Getcha Back") with a simpler arrangement that aims to be a little more timeless wouldn't be the worst listening experience. I mean yeah, you'll still have Mike's "Maybeh treat u like a MOOOVIE STAR" sh*t, but it could be a cool listen. If it doesn't, hay, that's cool, too.

But keep Brian's '85 falsetto recording. Don't you dare give that to Jeff >: (

Brian's 1985 falsetto is one of his last classic vocals.

[Aegir]

Getcha Back is the worst song on that album! you guys probably  just like it because of its attempts to sound like a classic song. you fell for the nostalgia formula hook, line and sinker!

[runnersdialzero]

you fell for the nostalgia formula hook, line and sinker!

AH FUCK

[I. Spaceman]

Getcha Back is the only good song on that album.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Getcha Back is the only good song on that album.

I agree.  Even if it's not that good a song, it's the best song on the album.  I hate that album.  It's hands down the worst album the boys made with Brian.

[Shady]

Come on, "maybe I don't know" is fantastic 

[Alex]

Getcha Back is the only good song on that album.

Umm...  Where I Belong??!!!!! 

[MBE]

Getcha Back is the only good song on that album.

I agree.  Even if it's not that good a song, it's the best song on the album.  I hate that album.  It's hands down the worst album the boys made with Brian.

I agree I only play the 45 of Getcha Back/Male Ego.