AGD missing, the future of this forum

[rab2591]

I will take being Melinda over Carol though! Will post more when I wake up in the morning.

Melinda, when you get a chance, could you ask Brian when he plans on releasing 'Pleasure Island'

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Hey and can you hook me up with 3 BW VIP tickets?  And ask Brian if he ever got the pizza Ray FedExed him.

[SMiLE Brian]

Right on it guys! EDIT: BW got the pizza and pleasure island will be released on 4/20 with drip drop on there!

[rab2591]

Right on it guys! EDIT: BW got the pizza and pleasure island will be released on 4/20 with drip drop on there!

Dammit if only this was real. Pleasure Island needs to happen. And I wish I had a slice of that pizza

[SMiLE Brian]

I am only Smile Brian after all....

[guitarfool2002]

I am only Smile Brian after all....

Oh, Carol...we know it's you.

[SMiLE Brian]

I played bass on all the BBs tracks dammit!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Oh carol I know

[SMiLE Brian]

  That AGD has a Bluetooth headset connected to prerecorded M&B statements under "someone who would know".

[guitarfool2002]

That AGD has a Bluetooth headset connected to prerecorded M&B statements under "someone who would know".

Password: "SetEndDate"

[Jay]

Oh carol I know

 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Lol

[SMiLE Brian]

Mike's password is "wheeeen"

[Debbie KL]

I am only Smile Brian after all....

Well now my "saggy ass" is truly depressed.  Does this mean the diamond bracelet I sent you for Christmas isn't going to get me backstage?  What a cruel, cruel blow...Should I have caught on when you asked me to send it to some guy named Adam in the hinterlands of the UK?

But the Alternative Facts board is available to anyone who really wants to go there.  If I become consumed by masochism, I'll probably try to join.  Craig, Freudian, definitely.

[Jukka]

The more the merrier, embrace all, there is no grave, bring back the good times. Although I wouldn't say this place is dying... It's been quiet lately, but there haven't really been any new developements. I wouldn't mind some more activity, especially about music.

[Rocky Raccoon]

Smile Brian sent me a photo of him at a casino, and I can also confirm that he is not Melinda.

Don't be so sure.  She's a master of disguise.

[SMiLE Brian]

Caught me!

[Steve Latshaw]

Forgive me for coming late to the party but what happened with Mr. Desper?  I greatly enjoyed his posts and everything he shared.

[SMiLE Brian]

He linked Trump's rallies with the 1970s BBs touring operation and all hell broke loose for better or worse.

[rab2591]

He linked Trump's rallies with the 1970s BBs touring operation and all hell broke loose for better or worse.

For worse. In the realm of all things it was a really innocent topic and some here couldn't at all handle it. Sadly this forum lost one of the best assets it had because of such a petty squabble (and I don't blame Mr. Desper at all for leaving). If Mr. Desper comes here and reads this: please know that everyone here appreciates to the fullest the contributions you made throughout the years. The archives of your posts in the Stephen Desper thread will no doubt be culled through for the decades to come. We really hope you make it back here soon.

[rab2591]

Rocky Racoon that picture made my morning

[HeyJude]

I don't want to retread the Desper situation too much, and I certainly value his knowledge and experience with the BBs and would always love to see more info from him.

But I do think there was a bit too much incredulity regarding his post favorably comparing Trump rallies to the band's touring setup, etc.. It was *obvious* why people saw it as an unneeded politically-tinged post, and that's because it was imbued with some politics. I found the comparison to be supremely odd; a thread about the BB's touring setup could have been started without any reference to Trump or politics at all. But it wasn't a big deal.

I'd point to some examples regarding that episode, but unless my forum search skills are not serving me well, it appears that entire thread is gone. Not locked, but gone completely.

In any event, that episode didn't strike me as a *huge* deal, and I certainly didn't see how it warranted Mr. Desper leaving. He was engaged in discussion about the overtones present in his post, and a discussion ensued. I think part of the hubbub on that old thread was debate over whether it should be moved to the Sandbox, rather than anyone finding anything about the post/thread so heinous. I hope Mr. Desper comes back. But I don't blame anyone here as if he was "run off" the board or anything. I've never been a fan of walking on egg shells here for fear someone will leave. Sometimes honored guests are needlessly trolled on boards (in which case it should be dealt with and usually is), and sometimes they're fairly and on even ground engaged in discussion or taken to task, or whatever the situation is.

[rab2591]

I don't want to retread the Desper situation too much, and I certainly value his knowledge and experience with the BBs and would always love to see more info from him.

But I do think there was a bit too much incredulity regarding his post favorably comparing Trump rallies to the band's touring setup, etc.. It was *obvious* why people saw it as an unneeded politically-tinged post, and that's because it was imbued with some politics. I found the comparison to be supremely odd; a thread about the BB's touring setup could have been started without any reference to Trump or politics at all. But it wasn't a big deal.

I'd point to some examples regarding that episode, but unless my forum search skills are not serving me well, it appears that entire thread is gone. Not locked, but gone completely.

In any event, that episode didn't strike me as a *huge* deal, and I certainly didn't see how it warranted Mr. Desper leaving. He was engaged in discussion about the overtones present in his post, and a discussion ensued. I think part of the hubbub on that old thread was debate over whether it should be moved to the Sandbox, rather than anyone finding anything about the post/thread so heinous. I hope Mr. Desper comes back. But I don't blame anyone here as if he was "run off" the board or anything. I've never been a fan of walking on egg shells here for fear someone will leave. Sometimes honored guests are needlessly trolled on boards (in which case it should be dealt with and usually is), and sometimes they're fairly and on even ground engaged in discussion or taken to task, or whatever the situation is.

The guy who mixed Sunflower to perfection (and who had a seemingly infinite supply of Beach Boys anecdotes and an unmatched knowledge of Beach Boys production) saw similarities between the different styles of campaigning and Beach Boys touring. It wasn't solely about Trump...he also included a paragraph about how Hillary's campaigning mirrored that of some eras of Beach Boy touring where they did more intimate tours. The whole point of his post was that he was reminded that both ways of reaching out to an audience are powerful.

I guess when it comes to a revered member who is actually contributing priceless information there should be a certain level of respect and understanding. I agree that walking on eggshells isn't something we should have to do on a messageboard, but when it comes to people who contribute information (and music) that no one else has, when they bring up a pretty harmless topic about being reminded of different touring styles, it's probably best for people not to go into total tantrum mode.

[HeyJude]

I don't want to retread the Desper situation too much, and I certainly value his knowledge and experience with the BBs and would always love to see more info from him.

But I do think there was a bit too much incredulity regarding his post favorably comparing Trump rallies to the band's touring setup, etc.. It was *obvious* why people saw it as an unneeded politically-tinged post, and that's because it was imbued with some politics. I found the comparison to be supremely odd; a thread about the BB's touring setup could have been started without any reference to Trump or politics at all. But it wasn't a big deal.

I'd point to some examples regarding that episode, but unless my forum search skills are not serving me well, it appears that entire thread is gone. Not locked, but gone completely.

In any event, that episode didn't strike me as a *huge* deal, and I certainly didn't see how it warranted Mr. Desper leaving. He was engaged in discussion about the overtones present in his post, and a discussion ensued. I think part of the hubbub on that old thread was debate over whether it should be moved to the Sandbox, rather than anyone finding anything about the post/thread so heinous. I hope Mr. Desper comes back. But I don't blame anyone here as if he was "run off" the board or anything. I've never been a fan of walking on egg shells here for fear someone will leave. Sometimes honored guests are needlessly trolled on boards (in which case it should be dealt with and usually is), and sometimes they're fairly and on even ground engaged in discussion or taken to task, or whatever the situation is.

The guy who mixed Sunflower to perfection (and who had a seemingly infinite supply of Beach Boys anecdotes and an unmatched knowledge of Beach Boys production) saw similarities between the different styles of campaigning and Beach Boys touring. It wasn't solely about Trump...he also included a paragraph about how Hillary's campaigning mirrored that of some eras of Beach Boy touring where they did more intimate tours. The whole point of his post was that he was reminded that both ways of reaching out to an audience are powerful.

I guess when it comes to a revered member who is actually contributing priceless information there should be a certain level of respect and understanding. I agree that walking on eggshells isn't something we should have to do on a messageboard, but when it comes to people who contribute information (and music) that no one else has, when they bring up a pretty harmless topic about being reminded of different touring styles, it's probably best for people not to go into total tantrum mode.

I think part of the hangup in that old thread (and again, it doesn't appear to be online anymore for some reason, so I'm doing my best to remember) was that it turned into kind of a semantics thing. I think maybe people were too quick to jump to the political angle. But I think people rightly got a bit hung up on the fact that Mr. Desper didn't want to admit that what he was saying was, as some would tend to read it, somewhat of a "positive" interpretation of something (in this case Trump's rallies) that many saw as so egregiously about so many negative things (people being beat up at rallies, hate and racism being spewed at the rallies, etc.).

It having been well established that many people felt that way about those rallies, I don't think it was out of line to question the potential tastelessness of the analogy.

[RangeRoverA1]

But I don't blame anyone here as if he was "run off" the board or anything.

Agree 100%! I said as much. Nobody's to blame for Mr. Desper's leave.