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 on: Yesterday at 11:41:41 PM 
Started by Gosh Darn Highway - Last post by HeyJude
We don't know what Brian is like on a day to day basis, we don't know how much Mike knows about Brian's shape (e.g. does he know more than us?), and we don't know how much Mike has been in contact with Brian in the last six months or more. So we have no idea how possible or ridiculously pie in the sky Mike's suggestions are as far as future things concerning Brian.

I dunno; I'd rather hear Mike saying he hopes he can work with Brian again (however unlikely that is, and however much he may have *not* actually put effort into doing so in recent years/decades) than the alternative of interviews where Mike just keeps mentioning all the drugs and drinking the Wilson brothers did.

Really, considering how dysfunctional the band and its members have intermittently been for many, many decades, and how some members have often not spoken particularly sympathetically about some other members, I think everything that has gone down in terms of public comments from band members over the last six months with all the turmoil with Brian, I think we've *so far* seen them show some restraint, and they've either been appropriately vague and supportive, or have just shut the f**k up about it.

I was not a big fan of how Mike tended to speak about Carl's illness, both during and especially after the fact. He never did or said anything particularly harsh, but I didn't like how he spoke about it (I won't digress into that right now), so I'm hoping we won't see Mike (or anybody else for that matter) put his foot in his mouth talking about Brian in the future.

These guys are all 200 years old at this point, yet this is new territory for them a bit.


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 on: Yesterday at 09:56:15 PM 
Started by Gosh Darn Highway - Last post by Zenobi
 Right. Also, more than enough is more than enough.

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 on: Yesterday at 09:10:12 PM 
Started by Gosh Darn Highway - Last post by Pretty Funky
It’s the 2024 version of Mike saying for years “Never say never.”

I am very disappointed that posters on other sites are talking up a possibility of new material and any kind of ‘Live’ event with Brian. The recent conservatorship ruling saying he is free to continue with music projects is one thing. Whether he is able to go to a studio and work with anyone who may put him under any duress has, under my understanding, been taken out of his hands. (thank goodness). Melinda acted as his backstop in the past and now others will do the same.

Enjoy the clips of the Paradise Cove reunion. Maybe this IMAX thing might be a group Q&A from his house, but please…no more. Leave him be. Enough is enough.

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 on: Yesterday at 08:52:24 PM 
Started by Rocky Raccoon - Last post by Zenobi
A suggestion for the Moderators: this thread, which has a rather INSENSITIVE title, has been off-topic for a couple pages now. What about either:
1) Change the title.
2) Or "fork" the thread, separating the off-topic, but interesting and successful, posts?

I don't like the idea of being reminded of Brian's state, in the bluntest way possible, every single time I visit this forum.

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 on: Yesterday at 08:40:09 PM 
Started by Gosh Darn Highway - Last post by Zenobi
The Beach Boys’ Mike Love & Bruce Johnston Hint At Things To Come | This Morning

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0PNGr1TUaU

I put these "hints" by Mike & Bruce in the same bag as Brian's R&R album.

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 on: Yesterday at 03:19:27 PM 
Started by Rocky Raccoon - Last post by HeyJude

My guess is that what Mike is really referring to when lamenting not writing with Brian on the reunion album is that there are no “Wilson/Love” collaborations.



You make a very good point. Yet in 2006 when the guys got the platinum (?) records for "Sounds of Summer" on the Capitol Tower rooftop Brian reportedly gave Mike a demo of a new song and asked if Mike wanted to write lyrics and the latter declined - https://youtu.be/OTSeL27Wq00?t=126
It sounds like this could've been a Wilson/Love tune. Now, I don't know what Mike's reason is. I have my theory but it's just that.

Ah, I had forgotten about that bit from 2006. Good catch.

I think we can all deduce the likely list of reasons Mike didn't want to work on the song Brian suggested:

1. It may have been an existing co-write with another writer, and Mike clearly isn't into piggybacking onto songs Brian already wrote with others

2. It may have been something unlike what Mike was/is into, sort of like how Mike reacted to the sending suite on TWGMTR by pretending to shoot himself in the head in the Rolling Stone piece.

3. Maybe Mike just thought the song sucked. We'd obviously have to hear it to know. I don't think it's impossible that Brian might have tossed something towards Mike that was rather slight. But Mike I think would tend to like the slight stuff more than stuff like "Lucky Old Sun" material or "Pacific Coast Highway."

4. Related to some of the above, but somewhat distinct, is that I think Mike maybe wouldn't have wanted a collaboration to have a "Solo Brian" vibe, and in general he wasn't as into just guesting on each other's solo stuff.

5. 2006 was still a somewhat politically fraught time in the Beach Boys World. I think the Al lawsuit stuff had just very recently been wrapped up, and I think the "Smile" lawsuit stuff from Mike had only recently been shot down. I'm not sure what was still pending in various suits as of that date in 2006 (I think some of the remnants of the Smile suit may have still been lingering, but I'd have to re-check dates), but even if the slate was clear, the lawsuits were still pretty fresh at that point. It had been very recent that one of Mike's lawsuits had alleged Brian threatened to pull Mike's license and go out with Al as "The Beach Boys", and it was only months later at the end of 2006 that Brian did start doing some gigs with Al for the first time (though that all crashed and burned by mid-2007).

I think 2006 was always going to be a rough time to try a BB reunion, even if just Brian and Mike trying to write something. By 2011/2012, the lawsuits had been over for longer, I think Brian had kind of run through so much solo stuff that he was ready for something else, Al had been ready to do a reunion for years, and even Mike seemed to recognize the 50th would be a point to do *something*.

I think by the end of C50 in 2012, they all learned that a "reunion" could work, but that it looked and felt different than what some of them (Mike perhaps) might have thought or assumed or wanted. It's unfortunate that he used that information to reaffirm his thinking that he should just tour on his own, because I think they could have taken the information from the 2012 reunion to *refine* how to continue doing it in a way that would work and minimize the beefs.

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 on: Yesterday at 03:04:44 PM 
Started by Gosh Darn Highway - Last post by HeyJude
Probably over-analyzing the beverage situation. But, either way, as I've mentioned in the past, I think folks should be prepared to *not* get much info or footage from that Paradise Cove reunion. I think that one-minute featurette may be more of an insight into that gathering than what you see in the actual documentary.

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 on: Yesterday at 03:00:24 PM 
Started by Angela Jones - Last post by HeyJude
The story as told in Mike's book sounds at its core totally plausible. Mike just *told* everyone his kid would be singing the song, Brian probably didn't give a sh*t one way or the other, and the political apparatus around both camps turned it into a big thing because Mike was making a kind of unilateral decision, and then any suggestion that having his daughter sing wouldn't be preferable was immediately construed as a personal family insult, etc, etc.

Goofy stuff that you'd think people in the industry for 97 years would have been able to navigate and get over, but that's the Beach Boys. It's ridiculous, and also I'm surprised that kind of stuff didn't happen *every other night* and derail the whole thing half-way through. Which it probably almost did numerous times.

I think the part Mike left out in his book is that I think Mike might have been a bit taken aback himself if Al came on stage and announced that Drew Jardine would be singing "California Girls" tonight.

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 on: Yesterday at 10:46:48 AM 
Started by XY - Last post by Rocker
Brian Wilson + Wilson Phillips interview - Week In Rock 4/28/90


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y83Ht4Mdraw

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 on: May 19, 2024, 09:05:10 AM 
Started by Angela Jones - Last post by Rocker
Found the report re: Ambha singing SOS. It was posted by our member CoolWater:



From the soundcheck on you could tell Brian was having a good day. When Mike's daughter came out on stage Mike walked over to Brian and said something to the effect of 'If it's all right she's going to sing Sailor tonight." Brian joked back saying "But that's one of my lead vocals." Mike's daughter was okay on "Sailor". Her singing was fine, but she didn't really connect with the words in the verses, but she hit the tag perfectly.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,13127.msg280436.html#msg280436

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