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Post by: halblaineisgood on May 01, 2013, 11:29:19 AM
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Title: Re: 1997
Post by: cablegeddon on May 01, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
In the U.S that was a period when the Alternative craze cooled down while the post-grunge was still alive and the nu-metal was bubbling to take over in a year or two....

Oasis be here now is great....


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: pancakerecords on May 01, 2013, 12:40:33 PM
Get Higher - Black Grape
Kate - Ben Folds Five
Calico Sky - Paul McCartney
Mmm Bop - Hanson


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Vega-Table Man on May 01, 2013, 01:12:14 PM
Some '97 tunes I've always loved:

"Let Down," Radiohead
"Beetlebum" and "You're So Great," Blur
"Don't Go Away," Oasis
"Setting Sun," The Chemical Brothers
"Cheapskate" and "Late in the Day," Supergrass
"Your Woman," White Town
"Ain't That Enough," Teenage Fanclub
"Standing in the Doorway," Bob Dylan
"Between the Bars," Elliott Smith
"If God Will Send His Angels," U2
"Nothing Lasts Forever," Echo & the Bunnymen
"Trouble Loves Me," Morrissey
"Parsec," Stereolab


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Rocker on May 01, 2013, 01:59:06 PM
I don't know if they were hits in the U.S. but they were in Germany:

No Doubt - Don't speak
Cardigans - Lovefool
Bee Gees - Alone
Babyface feat. Stevie Wonder - How come, how long
Backstreet Boys - Quit playin' games
Sarah Brightman & Andrea Bocelli - Time to say goodbye
R. Kelly - I believe I can fly


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: hypehat on May 01, 2013, 02:03:18 PM
In the U.S that was a period when the Alternative craze cooled down while the post-grunge was still alive and the nu-metal was bubbling to take over in a year or two....

Oasis be here now is great....

Be Here Now is a fucking scourge. Complete and utter creative bankruptcy meets cocaine psychosis.

Spiritualizeds Ladies & Gentlemen, We Are Floating In Space is a good 1997 album.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: the captain on May 01, 2013, 02:06:39 PM
What's with referencing yourself in third person?

A few others not yet mentioned are Cotton Mather's Camp Hill Rail Operator, Homefront Cameo, Spin My Wheels... (hell, most of that album) and Apples in Stereo's Seems So. Jeff Mangum's cover of I Love How You Love Me and the Barafundle album from Gorky's Zygotic Mynci were also good stuff that year.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: SMiLE Brian on May 01, 2013, 02:09:27 PM

Be Here Now is a fucking scourge. Complete and utter creative bankruptcy meets cocaine psychosis.

Brillant summary of that album and Oasis. :lol :lol :lol


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Post by: halblaineisgood on May 01, 2013, 02:43:32 PM
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Title: Re: 1997
Post by: hypehat on May 01, 2013, 02:54:32 PM
Daft Punk's Homework, too.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: the captain on May 01, 2013, 03:14:44 PM
What's with referencing yourself in third person?
Trying to socially engineer a more enthusiastic board response by subliminally suggesting that I AM Hal Blaine.

That answers that. Or, to help you feel successful, THAT ANSWERS THAT!!!!

(Enthusiasm: unquestionable.)


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Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Heysaboda on May 01, 2013, 04:07:31 PM
Some '97 tunes I've always loved:

"Standing in the Doorway," Bob Dylan

Epic Dylan!


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Myk Luhv on May 01, 2013, 04:16:56 PM
I know most of you don't like hip-hop because it's "not music" or whatever the f*** but it owns and there was a lot of good sh*t dropping in '97. Witness (the albums are just as good as the tracks too):

Busta Rhymes - "We Could Take It Outside" ft. Flipmode Squad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6AfaCi5VH4) (from When Disaster Strikes...)
Common - "Real Nigga Quotes" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOWBPzXDV38) (from One Day It'll All Make Sense)
Company Flow - "Legends" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2vFqi74Ck) (from Funcrusher Plus)
Dr. Dre & B-Real - "Puppet Master" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht4H4nW8cUI) (from DJ Muggs Presents The Soul Assassins, Chapter 1)
Latyrx - "Say That" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsYVRU4LBzI) (from The Album)


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: the captain on May 01, 2013, 04:29:08 PM
I know most of you don't like hip-hop ...

I'd ask that you kindly not generalize, but I suppose you were speaking truth. Most here don't.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: hypehat on May 01, 2013, 05:10:33 PM
And that is a shame. I mean, sh*t, some people have a problem with DISCO.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: the captain on May 01, 2013, 05:31:48 PM
And that is a shame. I mean, sh*t, some people have a problem with DISCO.

No good music was ever produced except between 1962-73 by bands whose names began with the letter B, or by musicians deeply influenced by or reminiscent of those bands' music of that time, or by those bands outside of that time (when they were not trying to do different types of music than what they did during that time). I mean, that is an obvious fact.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: cablegeddon on May 02, 2013, 05:10:22 AM
In the U.S that was a period when the Alternative craze cooled down while the post-grunge was still alive and the nu-metal was bubbling to take over in a year or two....

Oasis be here now is great....

Be Here Now is a fucking scourge. Complete and utter creative bankruptcy meets cocaine psychosis.

Spiritualizeds Ladies & Gentlemen, We Are Floating In Space is a good 1997 album.

Advocate of stereotypical music critic opinions says what?


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: hypehat on May 02, 2013, 07:39:35 AM
Yeah, like you're being really transgressive by liking Be Here Now. Way to be edgy, bro. Really sticking it to the critics there.  And to Noel, come to think of it. He hates Be Here Now too. Another slave to critical opinion, methinks.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Aegir on May 02, 2013, 09:48:43 AM
or maybe you guys just have different taste in music?


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: cablegeddon on May 02, 2013, 11:11:38 AM
He fell into the trap. Typical music critic behavior to cite Noel Gallagher least favorite Oasis album. That's what they all do. Go ahead...


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: hypehat on May 02, 2013, 12:03:12 PM
Oh my god, what.

Why on earth would you make this an issue? Did you get a bad review once?


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Alex on May 02, 2013, 05:40:18 PM
Some of these songs aren't necessarily "good", but were ones that I happened to like at the time. Don't blame me, I was only 11.

OMC-How Bizarre
Fiona Apple-Criminal
Mighty Mighty Bosstones-The Impression That I Get
Sugar Ray-Fly
Mark Morrison-Return of the Mack
Matchbox 20-Push
White Town-Your Woman
Duran Duran-Electric Barbarella
Aerosmith-Pink
Aerosmith-Hole In My Soul
Jamiroquai-Virtual Insanity
Chumbawamba-Tubthumpin'
No Mercy-Where Do You Go


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on May 02, 2013, 05:52:43 PM
I will say that I revisited Be Here Now recently and though it is not my favourite Oasis by a long shot and it is overproduced and could be scaled back, it is not the failure that it is widely made out to be today. It's still a good album and it contains some great songwriting. The problem is that it was so overhyped that it was nearly impossible to meet anyone's standard at the time and then the myth grew that it was a terrible record.


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Post by: halblaineisgood on May 02, 2013, 05:54:05 PM
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Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Alex on May 02, 2013, 05:56:12 PM
Rolling Stones-Anybody Seen My Baby


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: hypehat on May 03, 2013, 03:12:13 AM
I will say that I revisited Be Here Now recently and though it is not my favourite Oasis by a long shot and it is overproduced and could be scaled back, it is not the failure that it is widely made out to be today. It's still a good album and it contains some great songwriting. The problem is that it was so overhyped that it was nearly impossible to meet anyone's standard at the time and then the myth grew that it was a terrible record.

Maybe I'll try it again, but I do remember back in the days even when I was a pretty big Oasis fan I never put Be Here Now on - Stand By Me got some play, I think. The sheer hubris of All Around The World is pretty funny. 'What if Hey Jude changed key three times?! *wipes nose obsessively*

The thing that sort of sums it up its essential bluster and OTT noise is that whilst Oasis always 'borrowed' certain things, Do You Know What I Mean is essentially the chords to Wonderwall. They ripped off themselves!

Plus, Cablegeddon, you represent the retro critical consensus in that you think this record is amazing!


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Rocker on May 03, 2013, 03:17:48 AM
Rolling Stones-Anybody Seen My Baby



Yeah, I liked that song. But I think most of the album is terrible ("Bridges to Babylon")


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Loaf on May 03, 2013, 03:56:41 AM
Kula Shaker - singles released in 1997: Hey Dude, Govinda, Hush.

Has anyone mentioned Radiohead - OK Computer yet?


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Alex on May 04, 2013, 08:35:15 PM

Has anyone mentioned Radiohead - OK Computer yet?

A little overrated. Half good songs, half well-made filler, enough suckers were convinced there was some sort of a "concept", and Radiohead have been "important" and pretentious ever since.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Loaf on May 05, 2013, 03:01:56 PM

Has anyone mentioned Radiohead - OK Computer yet?

A little overrated. Half good songs, half well-made filler, enough suckers were convinced there was some sort of a "concept", and Radiohead have been "important" and pretentious ever since.

Them's fightin' words round 'ere. >:(


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on May 06, 2013, 12:57:09 AM

Has anyone mentioned Radiohead - OK Computer yet?

A little overrated. Half good songs, half well-made filler, enough suckers were convinced there was some sort of a "concept", and Radiohead have been "important" and pretentious ever since.

No.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Ron on August 07, 2013, 11:13:22 PM
1997 was right in my wheelhouse, I was 19.  This thread reminds me of how bad the music was, though... I liked some of those songs, but they bring up bad memories of bad relationships and such... so I looked over the top 40 (probably a bad idea) and here's a couple I remember fondly.

Robyn - Do you know


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4n6ymEMQmk

I always liked this chick.  I don't know why, I can't verbalize it, but this song (and her other big hit) always struck me as very cool.  Love her.  My favorite part is the "I'll..... give you everything....."


Sister Hazel - All for you


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MMcLEdkY68

I once went to a private party, on a private golf course on a private island in the middle of some big hubbub deal I was working at.  There were like 200 people there, and it was headlined by Hootie and the Blowfish... anyways, some pro golfer came out with his band, and did a version of this song, but rewritten to have golf lyrics "It's hard to play, when it rains," etc.  Pretty funny.  I had a really great time being a snob for two hours with all these rich people.  So this song always has a special place in my heart.

Paula Cole - Where Have All the Cowboys Gone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPR108kwNo4

Unabashedly un-feminist.  Loveeeee it. 

Sheryl Crow - If It Makes You Happy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyihQtBes1I

Sheryl being great like she often is.  This is the same album "Everyday is a Winding Road" is on. 

Aqua - Barbie Girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyhrYis509A

Pretty funny

Erykah Badu - On & On

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CPCs7vVz6s

Good stuff.  I remember she was so cool when she came out, but I didn't want to admit it because everybody else was so into her, lol.



Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Alex on August 08, 2013, 09:25:56 PM

Has anyone mentioned Radiohead - OK Computer yet?

A little overrated. Half good songs, half well-made filler, enough suckers were convinced there was some sort of a "concept", and Radiohead have been "important" and pretentious ever since.

Them's fightin' words round 'ere. >:(

Then let's go! I prefer Pablo Honey, believe it or not.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: alf wiedersehen on August 08, 2013, 09:31:20 PM
To the people who were teenagers and discovered OK Computer and Nevermind when they came out, they are very important albums.

To the rest of us, definitely not to the same extent.

In my personal experiences, at least.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: pixletwin on August 09, 2013, 01:11:04 PM
Zaireeka. 4 CD's that you must synchronize with 4 CD players to hear the album.  :lol


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Gabo on August 12, 2013, 02:31:25 PM
Can't stand Radiohead... their music is so cold and alienating.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Summer_Days on August 16, 2013, 12:35:13 PM
1997. Hmm, well, there was the Fleetwood Mac reunion concert The Dance, there was Elliott Smith's classic Either/Or album, Bob Dylan coming back strong with Time Out of Mind, Paul McCartney rode on a Flaming Pie and John Fogerty put out a really kickass album called Blue Moon Swamp.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: ontor pertawst on August 21, 2013, 10:21:17 AM
And that is a shame. I mean, sh*t, some people have a problem with DISCO.

No good music was ever produced except between 1962-73 by bands whose names began with the letter B, or by musicians deeply influenced by or reminiscent of those bands' music of that time, or by those bands outside of that time (when they were not trying to do different types of music than what they did during that time). I mean, that is an obvious fact.

“I’d spend hours in HMVs, Virgin Megastores and second-hand record shops staffed by greasy-haired 40-year-olds dressed as 20-year-olds, listening to contemporary music of every genre – Britrock, heavy maiden, gang rap, brakebeat. And I came to a startling but unshakeable conclusion: no genuinely good music has been created since 1988. The relief was, as Americans say, freaking awesome. The death of music on or before the release of Arthur 2: On the Rocks meant I was freed from the obligation of keeping up to date with contemporary music trends.”
― Alan Partridge


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: SMiLE Brian on August 21, 2013, 12:25:21 PM
Nu-metal from this era killed rock and roll.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: JK on August 21, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Spiritualizeds Ladies & Gentlemen, We Are Floating In Space is a good 1997 album.
Agreed! I'd add Exile by Gary Numan.

As for singles, there's the aforementioned "Tubthumping" and the original version of "You Might Need Somebody" by Shola Ama (a generally overlooked gem).

As I was well out of my teens in '97, my knowledge of that year's music is limited, to say the least. :=)


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Alex on August 23, 2013, 09:00:52 PM
Savage Garden, Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, Jewel, Spice Girls, Bridges to Babylon era Stones, Chumbawamba, Hanson, Jamiroquai, Paula Cole, Fiona Apple, the Wallflowers, White Town, Meredith Brooks, Shawn Colvin, Blues Traveler, Alanis Morrisette, Fleetwood Mac reunion, last Bee Gees record... Lots of childhood nostalgia for me. However I`ll keep some of that stuff back in `97 where it belongs. And no, my 11 year old self did not know about Radiohead or OK Computer at that point in time, mostly because VH1 didn`t play their videos (I preferred VH1 to MTV even as a kid!)


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Sunflowerpet on August 24, 2013, 03:49:48 AM
Don't forget "Life Thru A Lens" by Robbie Williams, a terrific album highly influenced by Oasis and early brit-pop sound.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Domino on August 26, 2013, 11:58:24 AM
David Bowie - I'm Afraid of Americans
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPVrFIP0CMs


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: TimeToGetAlone on September 15, 2013, 04:34:28 PM
According to my iPod...

Sway - Bic Runga
Fly - Sugar Ray
Anybody Seen My Baby? - The Rolling Stones
Saint of Me - The Rolling Stones
Everything I Need - The Wilsons
Bittersweet Symphony - The Verve
Walkin' on the Sun - Smash Mouth
Paranoid Android - Radiohead
Karma Police - Radiohead
No Surprises - Radiohead
Lucky - Radiohead
Something About the Way You Look Tonight - Elton John
Good Riddance (Time of Your Life) - Green Day


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Aum Bop Diddit on September 15, 2013, 07:29:02 PM
"Mel" by East River Pipe came out in 1996 but I listened to it all through 1997.  As well as today.


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: bluesno1fann on September 15, 2013, 08:34:59 PM
Rolling Stones-Anybody Seen My Baby

That is probably the worst Rolling Stones song of all time


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Catbirdman on September 18, 2013, 04:58:11 PM
For me 1997 was the year of the Bunnymen reunion. "Nothing Lasts Forever" truly is a gem. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPJHA4TgtlM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPJHA4TgtlM)

Favorite album from that year is Spiritualized's Ladies and Gentlemen... Backstage at the 2004 Smile debut in London, I was very fortunate to meet Jason Pierce and thank him personally for that album (and others). :)

Of course, Dylan had a late career-defining album in 1997. I have a soft spot for Duran Duran's Medazzaland. Still don't understand how "Electric Barabarella" never became a smash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK1g5dMYR3s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK1g5dMYR3s)

Looking through iTunes for other favorites, filtering on year...

"Believe" by GusGus - killed me for some reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gjmAXWeBAE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gjmAXWeBAE)
Lamchop "Hey Where's Your Girl" (East River Pipe cover) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kketkgBHjUA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kketkgBHjUA)
"Paranoid Android" - say what you want about Radiohead, but to me that's a MONSTER song and the video was striking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E_TXQMWdDw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E_TXQMWdDw)
"Blood Red Bird" by Smog - for my more morose side. Like Neil Young's "Helpless" written by a non-idealist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ownhDz4MVcg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ownhDz4MVcg)
"Miss Modular" by Stereolab - Dots and Loops still my fave of theirs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5T-BT68ZU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb5T-BT68ZU)
"An Awful Shade of Blue" by Tarnation. Spaghetti western, haunting, beautiful stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-8dsWrjC5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-8dsWrjC5U)
The only Third Eye Foundation album I ever got into - Ghost - but I was IN to it at that time. Hard to pick a single track. Maybe "The out sound from way in." Very disturbing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmHGQl35ZJ0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmHGQl35ZJ0)
"Bathtime" by Tindersticks (the previous album of theirs is in my top 20 all time). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSCBrRAr-s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxSCBrRAr-s)
"Deeper Into Movies" by Yo La Tengo - that's still my favorite album by them too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzTIi3pDOmk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzTIi3pDOmk)
Oh, and off that same album! My favorite Beach Boys cover ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPXwbiknoRs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPXwbiknoRs)


Title: Re: 1997
Post by: Alex on September 19, 2013, 01:49:30 PM
In response to bluesno1fann, my defense for liking Anybody Seen My Baby is that I was only 11 when it came out. There`s no accounting for taste at that young of an age.