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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Mike's vocals on Heroes & Villains?
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on: April 22, 2011, 12:06:50 AM
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Until recently reading this board and the SMiLE discussions, I was totally unaware that it was actually Mike singing the "sunny down snuff" part of H&V... and this info totally blew me away, since I always thought it was Brian singing that part.
Has someone done a line-by-line breakdown of whose vocals are whose on H&V? Where else is Mike taking lead vocals (was it only on parts from alternate versions than the Smiley Smile version?)
Goes to show how you think you know a song or a vocalist so well, but with the BBs, the voices can be very ambiguous sounding and morph into each other.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1980's TV Show Riptide Intro With Some Beach Boys Style
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on: January 17, 2011, 01:17:33 PM
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You are totally correct,... the song totally has that Beach Boys part, without a doubt an homage to the BB's. There's also an episode of this show called "Be True to Your School", in which the original BB song is played in the episode. http://sharetv.org/shows/riptide/episodes/516132I have an "unofficial" copy of the series that has this episode with the song intact, though I think the official release (only in Canada?) of Season 2 uses replacement music. This entire series is hilariously awful, and my friends and I regularly gather around to watch and guffaw at its "greatness". Wow, no one wants to comment on the middle of this TV show song???
It was co-written by Mike Post and it has a very catchy Beach Boyish middle part.
BK
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / "Don't Run Away" by Bruce & Terry
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on: January 06, 2011, 11:33:14 AM
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I just have to give props to this great song which I found on The Best of Bruce & Terry CD. Such a standout track, I'd put it up there with some of the better Beach Boys songs of its era.
Does anyone have any info on this song? Was it done right before Bruce joined the Beach Boys?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / MIU album appreciation thread
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on: September 29, 2010, 11:36:49 AM
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I know lots of people tend to knock MIU album.. but I actually (overall) dig it, and think it's underrated.
It’s got a few relative clunkers, but to me, nothing that’s really super bad, just a few mediocre/cheesy tracks like Winds of Change and Kona Coast, and those are still sort of listenable. Most Beach Boys albums tend to have a clunker or two, that's just the way it seems to always have been.
I think that, despite lame lyrics on Matchpoint of our Love, that the song is rad and the music (and Brian’s vocals) transcends the lyrics. Hey Little Tomboy is embarrassing but I dig it as a guilty pleasure.
Tracks like Sweet Sunday Kind of Love, Belles of Paris, and My Diane I find to be very underrated tracks in the BB cannon. I dig the production and little late ‘70s flourishes, and good Beach Boys harmonies and vocals are definitely to be found on this record. Maybe it's something I can only appreciate as a hardcore fan of the band, but I'll defend a good portion of the record as being pretty solid, compared to its reputation.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's improved voice on M.I.U. - mystery solved?
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on: September 24, 2010, 06:57:50 PM
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I'll defend Rieley's lyrics on CW's songs... While they could be considered "pretentious" and a bit rambling, it's a nice change of pace to have some $25 words in BB lyrics, which is sort of how I feel about some of VDP's lyrics on BW's songs. I'd take some literate pretentiousness over the extreme cheese that has too often plagued otherwise stellar BB backing tracks (Salt Lake City anyone?) (I know, different era, different vibe, but man do those lyrics suck, you don't rhyme Salt Lake with Salt Lake
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Brian's vs. Mike's bridge vox on the bridge of Wouldn’t it Be Nice...
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on: September 22, 2010, 03:52:27 PM
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Does anyone else think that the bridge of Wouldn’t it Be Nice works muuuuuuch better with Brian singing on it? (I’m talking about the initial stereo mix before they were able to “fly in” Mike’s lead from the mono ’66 mix and make a “new” stereo mix with Mike on the bridge).
The first version of Pet Sounds that I ever owned was the version with Brian singing on it, and maybe it’s just because I fell in love with the song that way.
But still, I think that despite my predisposition to falling in love with the song with that mix of Brian singing on the bridge, and despite it not being the “proper” originally-released version, that Brian’s vocals on the bridge just “make” the song. That bridge part is one of the most beautifully lush psychedelic moments in BW’s entire cannon. It's actually hard for me to listen to it with Mike's vocals there (I think Mike has had some fine moments as a vocalist, but that bridge isn't particularly one of his finest hours, especially compared to his other vocal parts in that era of the band.)
Thoughts?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Good Timin’ w/ Dennis on lead?
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on: September 20, 2010, 02:59:55 PM
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I seem to recall once seeing a brief clip of the BBs performing Good Timin’ live on some TV show around ‘79/80 with Dennis on lead vocals. This may have been on youtube, or in a documentary or something.
Did I hallucinate this, or did this performance actually happen?
I can’t seem to find any such clip on youtube or any reference to it anywhere.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl's increasingly amazing vocals
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on: September 20, 2010, 02:00:54 PM
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I'm in total agreement actually, that SNJ is not a song that needed "saving" per se... I totally dig it...but it does fall in the category of songs that Carl's voice takes from good/great to stellar (or at least stellar at times).
And gotta give props to Al as well on these later songs too. Al makes Strange Things happen actually really quite listenable for me. I hadn't come near Summer in Paradise for many years, despite being a huge BB fan, largely due to people saying it is utter garbage. And while parts of it surely are, Carl and Al's contributions, however minimal, make a HUGE difference, and make it at least a third or half an album's worth of ok listening, to BB nuts like myself.
When I finally broke down and bought a copy of SIP off eBay, it was better than I expected. I guess having the lowest of possible expectations can make something much better if it has some decent parts to it. Just gotta make sure to use that SKIP button on the CD player/ipod as needed!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Island Girl - last real example of "classic" BB vocal blend?
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on: September 20, 2010, 01:34:55 PM
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I can’t help but to get chills when I listen to the song Island Girl, because it always strikes me as the absolute last time when a real, truly unmistakable and magical “old style” Beach Boys vocal blend was heard in a recorded original Beach Boys song.
I can’t get the same kind of emotional impact from a BB group vocal from a date later than this (unless there’s some post-Island Girl track I’m not thinking of or I’m not aware of). Not that there aren’t a small handful of magical moments in a few post Island Girl tracks (mostly due to Carl or Al singing a killer vocal on a solo vocal line or 2), but none that have that real vocal blend that we all know and love.
While I recall there were some good vocal moments on the Stars & Stripes record, I can barely listen to it (and I haven’t past 1 or 2 listens ever), since it amounts to a lame covers album. It’s just something about:
- the a capella intro (with Brian’s vocal so clearly present, mirroring the old days... was this recorded with all the BB’s present or was Brian overdubbed later?)
- the way the word “Girrrrl” is sung throughout the song, really just gets to the absolute heart of the best of the magical vocal formula from the early days. In fact it’s hard to think of a BB song in the entire decade prior to Island Girl that has quite this effect of a tip of the hat to the old sound and old lyric/vocal type of singing,that works as well.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Carl's increasingly amazing vocals
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on: September 20, 2010, 01:03:56 PM
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I’m sure others have noticed this... but it’s really been in my head lately how much Carl’s vocals got better and better with age, most particularly in the late 70s/80s and into the 90s, right about the time that the quality of recorded material being recorded got much worse. His vocals just got so overwhelmingly amazing, like a fine wine getting better and better with age, that practically passing each year in the above mentioned time frame, the decline of the material is almost an exact opposite curve to the increasing awesomeness and shear emotional strength of his vocals.
A really unique and bizarre phenomenon that, to me, gives so much more listenability and enjoyablilty to latter day Beach Boys product (some of which would otherwise be nearly complete dreck), but Carl somehow saves the song, or makes it at least parts of the song, very very enjoyable.
Biggest examples of this:
Lahaina Aloha Make it Big Somewhere Near Japan entire Beach Boys 1985 album
Even train wrecks such as Problem Child and Happy Endings have moments of Carl bliss which make them listenable to me.
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