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What do you think will be radically different from the C50 setlist? Brian solo tunes? Al solo tunes??...DAVE SOLO TUNES??? I hope so. At least some more BB deep-cuts(take your pick). I'm hoping for some LY material myself.

What little info I can add is I messaged Scott Bennett on Facebook and he said they will not be playing "Surf's Up" because "it was very, very difficult for Brian." Fair enough.

Anyway, post any info/questions etc related to the BAD tour set!

Look at the venues. It'll be a GH-heavy, audience friendly set (and yes, Brian does do them...). Differences from the C50 setlist ? It'll be a lot shorter, 35 tunes tops (if that).

I might wager that they will just try something new and have a slow build of hits before ending wth Surfin' USA, Barbara Ann, and Fun Fun Fun!

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I would be a little surprised if there are any Al solo tunes and flabbergasted if there are any David songs.

I would hope that Al will sing I Get Around, California Girls, Help Me Rhonda, Then I Kissed Her, California Saga, Wouldn't it be Nice etc. Plus hopefully quite a few others.

I doubt there will be many songs not performed during the C50 tour or previously by Brian.

Al should sing all the leads except for a few select which Brian could sing. Dave should be given a good portion of songs as well. I fear Brian's singing isn't quite holding up compared to Al.

I just really hope it gets recorded and released.Oh, and comes to Australia.. :)

Last time Al toured with Brian there was an interview in which Al was mentioning "Honkin' down the highway" and that they should do it. Never happened iirc. Maybe this time.
I guess that it will be kinda like C50. I'm afraid though that they (Brian, Al, David) expect this to be something like a continued C50 with all the success and fun. Obviously this won't be anything like the Beach Boys tour but tell that the boys...

Wouldn't it be awesome to hear them do California feeling and don't fight the sea?

Would really love to see Honkin' down the highway.. Brian loves Love You, the fans does, and even so rockstars, come on bring back Love You!

Well, if it's ever going to happen I think it will be on this tour! Airplane would be nice but I think if they do any LY tracks it will be HDTH. They could do a damn good version of TNWSY, I can hear it now! Dave doing those guitar licks in the verse?? Would be awesome. As far as Brian's singing goes, I know at times he get's super shrill when he tries "belting" it but if you ask me when he really gives a sh*t about a song he can conjure up that sweet BW tone we all love! I really hope this tour is more than what is currently expected, who knows. I will report from the Pittsburgh gig!

01. California Girls
02. Then I Kissed Her (Al)
03. Hawaii (David)
04. Catch A Wave
05. When I Grow Up (To Be A Man) or The Little Girl I Once Knew
06. Surfer Girl
07. In My Room
08. All Summer Long
09. Come Go With Me (Al)
10. Darlin' (Darian)
11. Don't Worry Baby (Jeff)
12. Sloop John B (Brian / Al)
13. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Al / Jeff)
14. God Only Knows
15. Sail On Sailor
16. Honkin' Down The Highway (Al)
17. Heroes & Villains
18. Do It Again
19. Marcella
20. California (Al)
21. Do You Wanna Dance (David)
22. Dance, Dance, Dance
23. I Get Around
24. Good Vibrations
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25. Johnny B. Goode
26. Help Me Rhonda (Al)
27. Barbara Ann
28. Surfin' USA
29. Fun, Fun, Fun
<encore>
30. Summer's Gone

seems very realistic to me!

It's Brian's show. Al and Dave are his special guests. I'd be peeved if I spent money and only saw Brian sing a handful of songs.

Sounds about right, but I'd doubt they'd replace Love and Mercy with Summer's Gone (not they shouldn't).

What's BAD stand for?

Brian, Al, and Dave.

I'm with you.

I'd like to see some of the TWGMTR suite numbers performed.  At the very least, we know that "Summer's Gone" is a song the band can pull off well in a live setting, and who wouldn't enjoy seeing BAD taking advantage of Al's presence by offering up "From There to Back Again"?  I'd love to see the guys perform FTtBA, then into "Pacific Coast Highway," before capping everything off with the aforementioned "Summer's Gone."

Minus the EXTREME hits that will be played by both Mike/Bruce and Brian/Al/David....I think they'll play the same length show that M&B do...approx 30 songs except, it'll sort of be the other half of the setlist from last year that Mike and Bruce are not touching!

I didn't even think of that but would definitely make sense, sounds like a great idea they should really try

TWGMTR Suite, a few more Brian solo tunes and anything from LY would be mind melting. Although, you could give me even one of the three and it will be unforgettable.

If the M&B show can pull out stuff like WH then what's stopping BAD from delving a little deeper?

This:

1 - "WH" is a bona fide Top 40 hit, not a deep cut: it's on all the major compilations.

2 - BA&D don't have anything like the name recognition of The Beach Boys (any version you care to name), so straying too far from the GH path isn't likely or sensible.

Very reasonable assumption... and more of a hits top heavy set than either Brian or M&B have ever done. Betcha he wouldn't get flayed alive for it, though.  ;)

Practical reasons.  M&B band tours often enough to justify spending time on rehearsing new songs and getting them into shape.
BAD has only few gigs booked so far, and that doesn't justify the costs related to rehearsing new songs.  I will be pleased to be wrong on this.

Oh!

Brian
Alan
Dave


!!!!

They're BAD

They're BAD

They're really really BAD...

Can't you just hear Jeff introducing the three with Michael Jackson blasting away in the background.

So this is really happening?  We're all so cynical 'round here it's hard to tell!   :lol

How are they billing themselves?  Brian Wilson, with Al and Dave?

You know, personally I don't know how I feel about this.  It just highlights the riff (or whatever it is) between the members.  You've got 3/5 of the Beach Boys touring... who are not the Beach Boys.  And then you got 2/5 of the Beach Boys touring, who are the Beach Boys.  And you got a whole lot of people who must think "are there enough people willing pay to see them to warrant all this??"

I mean, seriously.  I'm a huge fan... and would love to take my family to see a show... but I ain't paying modern day concert ticket prices to see a beach boy cover band from a 100 yards away.

Right. I'm not saying WH is a deep cut it's just a little off the beaten path of a normal BB's 21st century set. I previously subscribed to the notion that the general public didn't know who Brian Wilson was anymore. But after the response he would get at the C50 shows it's clear people still know who he is. Sure they might think Al Jearu is touring with him but they still know BW. What about the YouTube clips of him doing "I'd love just once to see you" "Drive-In" I would take either of those.

For small venues like BAD is playing, I think many people know who Brian Wilson is. For the Atlantic City show, it is billed as Brian Wilson with special guests, Alan Jardine & David Marks.

I would pay serious money to see that happen... and then for all three to moonwalk on stage.  ;D

I hope it's similar to last year's Beach Boys setlist, maybe like this.

1. Do It Again
2. Hawaii (Dave)
3. Surfer Girl
4. The Little Girl I Once Knew
5. This Whole World
6. Getcha Back (Dave)
7. Then I Kissed Her (Al)
8. Please Let Me Wonder
9. Marcella
10. You're So Good to Me
11. Kiss Me, Baby
12. Come Go With Me (Al)
13. When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)
14. Darlin' (Darian)
15. Good Timin'
16. Cotton Fields (Al)
17. Don't Worry Baby (Jeff)
18. I Get Around
19. Pet Sounds (Dave)
20. Add Some Music to Your Day
21. Sail On, Sailor
22. Heroes and Villains
23. I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
24. California Dreamin' (Al)
25. California Saga (Al)
26. In My Room
27. God Only Knows
28. Sloop John B
29. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Al)
30. Good Vibrations
31. California Girls
32. All Summer Long
33. Help Me, Rhonda (Al)
34. Do You Wanna Dance?
35. Surfin' U.S.A.
36. Barbara Ann
37. Fun, Fun, Fun
38. Love and Mercy

The professor hates love and mercy.

I'm pretty stoked about seeing them In July, I had a sneaky feeling that there'd be some rarities played then, but I don't really know that for sure.

Maybe they'll let Dave sing Getcha Back as well. I'd love to hear Heroes & Villains with Al on the verses and Brian on the chorus, but I don't see that as a realistic possibility.

As for songs not played on the 50th tour, I would love to hear them do Caroline No and Break Away (with Al on the chorus).  Oh and maybe Warmth of the Sun with Jeff on lead.  As for Brian solo tunes aside from Love and Mercy, it seems Your Imagination and Soul Searchin' are the only ones he's really done in recent years.  I'd love to hear those songs nonetheless.

And the entire Gershwin album. Also Midnight's Another Day and Goin' Home.

I hope they don't open with "DO it Again"...it really bugs me that some setlists from this year have shown that M&B are opening with it, especially after re-recording it last year for the reunion and literally doin' it again as so many commercial appeals say...I guess everyone is back to doin' SOMETHING again......

He better do ADITLOAT!!!!

Mike and Bruce have opened with that song for *years*. It's one of their three main openers (along with California Girls and Surfin') and I've seen them open with it in 2004, 2008 and 2011.

the professor gets to leave one song early!

:lol :lol :lol

It's possible I guess. When Al toured with Brian in 2006/2007 they did play "Break away".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvuqXkOhQv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lnBuKCls-8

I know they've used it before, but now since it has sort of become the slogan of C50, I find it a bit inappropriate in 2013.

Brian also did "Break Away" at Hampton Court" in 2005. It was a complete and utter train wreck.

Sounds pretty good here... and it would sound great with Al.
http://youtu.be/xPNVknCRpTk?t=9m30s

Well, you are a conservative, mr. professor...so I'm not surprised that you wouldn't be a fan of love and mercy.  ;D

Because chords are mostly the same as the intro chords in GOK?

I hate the line "crummy movie," and I find the entire song, as well as its rank sentimentalization by BW disciples, mawkish and hollow. I'll be first out of the parking lot. Did you ever hear that boys choir at the Kennedy Center awards sing it? Don't play that while driving over a bridge because it will make you want to kill yourself. It manifests literally in the children singing the nauseating fixation on perpetual infantilization that marks BW solo work. The BB are no more; I will listen to a BW record if Dave and Al are on it because it's the closest we will come. I will lose my lunch if I continue thinking about this and hearing that cloying tune in my head. Never mention it again.

Rank sentimentalization is indeed a problem. The ontor pertawst thinks you should listen to it while driving around Los Angeles while wearing a yellow shirt on a Sunday and will say no more about the subject.

Sorry but this concert is legendary for how terrible Brian sounds and this song is no exception.

OP your allusions are too complex for me; I need explanation.  But I looked for lyrics to LAM and found these pasted below; surely these are not the real lyrics?  Does anyone have the correct link to a reliable lyric page? These are a parody, grossly exagerating the mawkishness I attributed to the original:

I was sittin' in a crummy movie with my hands on my chin
 Oh the violence that occurs seems like we never win
 
Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
 So, love and mercy to you and your friends tonight
 
I was lyin' in my room and the news came on T.V.
 A lotta people out there hurtin' and it really scares me
 
Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
 So, love and mercy to you and your friends tonight
 
I was standin' in a bar and watchin' all the people there
 Oh the lonliness in this world well it's just not fair
 
Oooooo-ooooooo-ooooooo
 Oooooo-ooooooo-ooooooo-ooooooo-ooooooo
 Ahhhhh-ahhhhhh-ahhhhhh-ohhhhhh-ohhhhhh
 
Hey love and mercy that's what you need tonight
 So, love and mercy to you and your friends tonight
 
Love and mercy that's what you need tonight
 Love and mercy tonight
 
Love and mercy

Someone once wrote a really interesting critical piece about Brian's solo work, analyzing the sort of uncomfortable plastic bubble of antiseptic innocence and indefinite adolescence reflected in the lyrics and production of BW's solo works. Underlying that, it seems, is a sense of fear and dread from Brian, of what might happen if he ditched the precalculated sheen of the Wondermints or Joe Thomas and used lyrics that weren't approved by his wife and managers. Because of this, we're left with a musical output that is largely emotionally closed, making the seeming "perfection" of it all the more disturbing.

AFAIK Brian did it solo more often than that (often introduced it as a song "I wrote with my father" iirc). I wouldn't be surprised if it sounded terrible or at least not good back then. But Rocky Raccoon talked about Brian performing it with Al. And I think that could sound goodnowadays. Brian's singing has improved a lot over the last years (since TLOS).

That is pure bullshit. Nobody is approving anything. Brian writes from his own frame of mind. He sees the world differently than most of us. In Love and Mercy, Brian might watch a crummy movie with his hand on his chin, bored stiff, but me, I just fall asleep like I did watching Les Miserables over the weekend. Brian is no phony, he is just different.

Do you find the use of "fun,fun,fun" and positivity by Mike Love hollow because he is complete asshole? (IMO)

Is that a question or a statement? Mike might seem like a jerk within the group due to is relationships with the band members, but it doesn't seem that he is like that in other aspects of his life.
As for the "crummy movie" line, maybe he just finished watching Leave It To Beaver before he wrote the lyrics. When I was a kid in the early 60s, we used the term "crummy" quite a bit.

I meant with with the band members.  ;)

The BW show I saw in 2011, he changed it to "crappy movie"!

"Love and Mercy" is one of Brian's greatest songs. The melody and chords, wherever they're from, seem inevitable. The lyrics are as simple and profound as anything since "Til I Die." It suffers only from having no definitive arrangement.

To call the tune mawkish misses the point, just as calling Pet Sounds over-orchestrated or Smile fragmentary misses the points of those works. The open-hearted embrace of fellow humans' suffering in "Love and Mercy" is precisely the opposite of the closed-off aesthetic mentioned earlier. Whereas "In My Room" depicts isolation and immaturity -- a teenager finding solace in his own thoughts in his own space -- "Love and Mercy" reaches out.

The fortysomething songwriter is still in closed off spaces -- a movie theater, a bar, yet another room -- yet he finds himself drawn to the suffering and fear of others. And he helps them the only way he knows. He helps them the only way he can. He writes a song. And as he has done before, he writes it as a prayer, as a plea to a higher power.

Whether or not he knows it, Brian quotes scripture in the song's title and main chorus line. It can be found in Isaiah 63:9. "In all their distress he too was distressed, and the angel of his presence saved them. In his love and mercy he redeemed them; he lifted them up and carried them all the days of old."

I can't say any more. The message touches you or it doesn't. The empathy resonates or it doesn't. It strikes me as Brian's own "Let It Be" -- a song that hits a basic, very human place.

(For me, the definitive version of the song comes from Radio City special. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PISkFEzC5XE)

Thank you for that link... it is nice to hear him singing the song instead of screaming it.

Holy shnikies that's bad. I would never ever pay to see BW solo. On the other hand woul give an arm and a leg to see the 50th anniversary line up and band again.

A swedish frog told me it had a dream that this is the setlist...

1. Our Prayer
2. A Day in the Life of a Tree (Brian)
3. At My Window (Al and Brian)
4. My Solution (Brian)
5. Solar System (Brian)
6. Beaks of Eagles (Al with David speaking poetry)
7. California (Al)
8. Rio Grande (Brian)
9. Little Pad (Brian, Al and David)
10. Diamond Head
11. Wind Chimes (Brian)
11. Can't Wait Too Long (Al)
13. Rocking Surfer
14, Stoked
15. Carl's Big Chance
16. Johnny Carson (David)
17. Male Ego (Brian)
18. Sunshine - KTSA (Brian)
19. Feel Flows (video footage from 1977)
20. You Are So Beautiful (video footage from 1980)

Encore
21. You're Welcome
22. Mt Vernon and Fairway (Jack Reiley goes on stage, Brian is the pied piper)
23. Tone X

What? No "Surf Jam"? I'm not going!!!!

(Paroding myself) ;D

I really like L&M but find the professor's take on the song kind of refreshing. Always thought it seemed kind of forced when they made the song title into BW's trademark complimentary close. Still, in my opinion it's a brilliant song and certainly the best original song that BW released as a solo artist. I've heard that according to the liner notes from the BW88 reissue it even qualifies as a hit single. :-D

 :-D  Damn straight!  And without "George fell into his french horn" and the Hal and Brian Vegetable routine, I'm not going either.  It's just another, total SMiLE denial show for "fans."

I want the SMiLE crew there to do all the "brian falls into..." skits.

I think Brian should tour Pet Sounds again with Al and Dave.  He's already done it with Al and Dave found a great showcase on the 50th tour with the title track.  Also, it makes a more marketable tour concept than anything (probably only second to being called the Beach Boys which is obviously out of the question). And having missed the original two Pet Sounds tours, having been too young to appreciate it then, it's something I would totally want to see and I'm probably not alone as the album's reputation only continues to grow.

I'd agree with you if I believed that's what "they" had done, but personally, I think it's just a conviction that happens to ring true with Brian (and as naïve as it may sound, I think the fact that the phrase was used in one of his songs has less to do with it's continued use all these years later than one might otherwise think).

I could be wrong, certainly, but it's always felt less a case of a consciously chosen, trademark signature, than a genuine sentiment to me.

I suggested last year that The Beach Boys attempt to either tour "Pet Sounds" or "SMiLE" perhaps in a brief run of smaller venues and the idea was basically shot down due to the fact that the band members are now in their seventies and not their sixties and asking the group to tour an entire album probably would be a big ask. 

Guys, look what you did.

Also can't believe people are still calling it the Bad Tour. I don't care how you spell it, you're calling it the Bad Tour.

BAD. BAAAAD. THUMBS UP NICE HAIR MOTORCYCLE SUNGLASSES BAAAAD. I'M GONNA BE BAAAD BOWLING FOR THIS TROPHY

Why should they? Brian and Al already did it. No need. Plus I don't think many people would care about it.

Oh yeah? WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH  >:(

 ;)

Wirestone has written eloquently and endearingly about Love and Mercy, and I am moved by his literary sensitivity and measured critcal prose. I simply do not like the song. The childlike innocence is revolting for some reason, and the allusion to Scripture (well seen Wirestone) diminishes the triumphal register of Isaiah, reducing it to jejune saccharin pseudo "blessing." I don't want Eugene Landy blessing me at the end of a rock and roll show. Give me Fun x3 or get the hell off stage. Anything short of the BB is a big nothing, the way I feel today, with the solo album being announced.

The guys were already playing 48 song setlists anyway...just cut some of the deeper tracks that are on the list all ready, and fill em with the rest of the album tracks! It wouldn't be that unrealistic. John Fogerty is doing it this fall and he is 68.

Don't be saying things like that - we need to encourage them to do this!!!

I didn't get to see that tour the first time 'round - I can't even begin to tell you what it would mean to me (and probably, about a couple thousand others at least) to see the creator of Pet Sounds perform the whole thing live with his band. That album means so much to me, means so much to a lot of people.  It defines who I am, as much as a musical statement ever could, it's more than an album to me....and I would jump at the chance to be a part of that happening.

Good point! That frog has skrewed us once again!

Well, on the other hand: Why not?

How about a PS50 tour in 2016?

Genuine question, and not being snarky - where were you in 2000, or if you're a Brit, 2002 & 2006 ?

If you're really interested - not sure why you would be - I was 10 years old in 2000 - and while I've been heavy into 60s music since I could speak (and before then, too) I didn't really fully embrace Brian/The Beach Boys music until around 2010 or so - which means I missed the 2006 PS concert near my town, as well. In fact, I'd missed ALL Brian's concerts near my area. I had casually liked The BBs music, owned some albums and singles, but didn't start heavily collecting and listening until I understood the copy of Pet Sounds I'd had in my collection for a couple years...and that's why it's important to me.

I got really into the Beach Boys in 1998. I didn't think anything good would happen by that point, but I was wrong! So many great releases and concerts since that day. For your sake, I hope that there is more greatness to come. Won't last forever, its kind of sad.

Enough already with the PS tours. What we need now is a Wild Honey tour. Or Sunflower. Dave could sing the Dennis songs; as for the Bruce songs, maybe Darian could learn how to adjust his mic, and put on a pair of shorts.

Don't forget he needs to start a clap on 3/4 of the set list. When did the whole microphone adjustment joke start? I love it! I noticed it in a lot of the concert footage but it seems to be a long running joke within the past few months.

Great story! I'm often amazed at young generation people who like sth. ancient (esp. when talking about the 60s times) since childhood. And continue liking it despite the modern & severe information technology era nowadays and more so, despite having danger being ridiculed by other students, friends etc. So, you have great musical upbringing & taste, EgoHanger! That's cool!

It's been done. Ok not with the complete Beach Boys but it still would be too much of a repetition imo. Same with Smile

What albums could possibly be performed live besides PS and smile that are commercial enough? I wouldn't mind hearing Al's Postcard from CA being performed live with Brian and David.


Off topic, any idea what's gonna be on the merch table?

Yes it has been done. Just as all but 2 songs had been done for up to 50 years during the C50 and many of those same songs have been released multiple times during that period. Still sells.

I'm not ruling out, health permitting, noises being made in the UK for a PS tour in 2016 by the C50 line-up.

Did they really play that many live?

1.   "Wouldn't It Be Nice" (B. Wilson/Asher/Love)   - Concert Staple
2.   "You Still Believe in Me" - Played often from '71 to '75, and again during M+B's stadium tours    
3.   "That's Not Me"  - never to my knoledge     
4.   "Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)"  - Played during '74 or '75, (Carl on lead)
5.   "I'm Waiting for the Day"  - Played in '75 (with Al & Billy on lead?)
6.   "Let's Go Away for Awhile"  - never to my knoledge
7.   "Sloop John B"  - concert staple

1.   "God Only Knows" - concert staple
2.   "I Know There's an Answer" - never to my knoledge
3.   "Here Today" - played during M+B's stadium tours
4.   "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times"  - played during C50    
5.   "Pet Sounds" - Played during C50
6.   "Caroline, No" - often from '71 to mid 70s, occasionally thereafter   

The 2 songs I was referring to were the ones off the new album, as in the C50 had songs played live for up to 50 years except IIT and TWGMTR. Maybe poor phrasing on my part.

How about Wake The World, with Al singing Carl's line.

Carl.

correction :

Ah, sorry, I misunderstood you there. Oh well, keeping it up anyway, good reference or whatever. Thanks for the correction, John.

Fresh off the press:


(SOURCE (http://www.brianwilson.com/news/2013/6/17/brian-wilson-and-jeff-beck-to-play-the-greek-theatre-with-al-jardine-and-david-marks))

That should be an interesting concert.

Should help them with ticket sales too if they needed it.

I just really hope they add some more dates. A few shows in July, presumably before Brian's album comes out, is kind of weird. I know Brian had done short strings of shows like that in the past, though.

I'm hoping they are planning on booking more dates around the October timeframe and that the L.A. show isn't just a one-off. Perhaps by that time Brian's album will be ready to promote? Who knows.....

I dont' know why, but I really want them to do Honkin' Down the Highway too.  I don't know why when I hear Al and Brian I think of that song. 

Because Brian helped to write it and Al sings it?

Well that's your fault for not being born sooner then, isn't it?

http://www.brianwilson.com/tour/

UPDATE: July 11, 2013
Fans are asking what they can expect from Brian's upcoming shows. Well, we got the inside word from Paul Mertens, Brian's fantastic arranger and muli-instrumentalist:

"The shows are featuring all the hits that fans, both casual and serious, would expect, but we're also delving into some rare cuts as well, adding some songs that have rarely, if ever, been performed live.

We also have the opportunity to highlight Al and David's contribution to the Beach Boys music, particularly Al's vocal power and David's seminal surf guitar style.

Having had an extended break, Brian and the band are really stoked to get out and play!"

YESSS!!! I can't wait to see what this tour has in store! "Rarely, if ever, been performed live.". That's an amazing quote. Makes you wanna fall asleep just at the thought of M&B's boring setlist!

BOB LIZIK BACK ON BASS!!! This is really looking up! His live bass on IJWMFTT has always been a favorite for me!

Sounds very similar to recent Mike and Bruce shows actually.

We talk about this stuff in here constantly. Both bands do very similar shows. Both do the hits and both do deep cuts. As Al stated in a recent interview is that what's different is the presentation. Usually, the only thing that is really different in the setlist is the choice of deep cuts. These BAD shows should be very entertaining. I can't wait for Saturday evening to get here. :)

Isnt the movie "crummy" because of the violence portrayed in it?

At least thats always been my impression. I dont think any words are wasted in this song its
an appeal for peace, one of Brian's major messages in his work.

Sure! It wasn't my point, though. Brian writes what he wants to write about, for his own reasons. He's not in a bubble with people telling him what he must write about. At least I think that was what I was responding about originally. ;)

Its cool, i was late to this thread and just used your post as a "springboard", no argument from me.  ;D

I am always amazed that there people out there who think Brian is some kind of an marionette or something, with someone in background moving his mouth and speaking for him. While I don't deny that Brian may follow along if it benefits him, I think he knows exactly what he wants and how he feels. I think they call that being manipulative? ;)

Without a doubt. A practiced manipulator and passive aggressive type. You can understand why, look at his family! Early success, people all around wanting a piece of you and always aiming for an angle, chaos swirling around.

 A bit like Warhol with that GEE WHIZ public front.

He liked having lackeys fire people too. Classic Good Brian/Bad Wifeandmanagers routine.

The issue seems to be Brian's indecisiveness at times which lends credence to the marionette theory.  There are a lot of Beach Boys fans who believe that Wilson is extremely susceptible to the power of suggestion and many of these same folks also believe that Wilson is a people pleaser and always has been.  A lot of this has been fortified by writings (accurate or inaccurate) dealing with how Wilson acquiesced at times to the demands of others instead of furthering his own desires.  That isn't to say he was a doormat so to speak but stories like taking "Time To Get Alone" away from Redwood because The Beach Boys wanted to record it are often cited as examples of Wilson ceding power to others.

There have also been stories that I've read on these forums particularly in regard to the recording of the GIOMH album where when Brian Wilson doesn't necessarily want to go along with a proposed plan he will attempt to sabotage the project by not giving it his full effort.  Therefore it has been said that in many cases Wilson will go along to get along but during the process of going along will intentionally torpedo the project at hand.  Some have also pointed to the belief that Wilson during the seventies intentionally harmed his voice by smoking copious amounts of cigarettes just to show others that he could do so if so pleased.  Now granted a great deal of this may be bollocks but all of this has come up many times in books, discussions and debates among Beach Boys scholars and fans. 

So personally I think that is why the marionette theory persists to this day among some fans, right or wrong.

But part of what you write actually supports the point that Brian is manipulative. It is the definition of manipulative to self-sabotage, or half-ass  projects that you don't want to do. And Brian has definitely done his share of that.

It's also important to note that Brian is seriously, continuously mentally ill. At his untreated or mistreated worst (roughly his 30s-50s), that meant he really couldn't function fully. Sometimes, yes. Much of the time, no. And he's had his challenges in recent years too.

If Brian wants to continue being a professional musician, which he does, then he has to do certain things (write songs, record, play some shows, do some PR). And someone has to set that up and prod him toward those goals -- which he explicitly wants to do. There's no way the prodder can get things 100 percent right, 100 percent of the time in a scenario like that. The best that can be done is learn from past mistakes and move on, which I think Melinda has done.

At the show. Great seats, third row on the Nicky side. David has already reared his head a couple of times.

I can feel the excitement from here!!! :o - please report back later about which songs were performed. Hopefully
there will be some youtube stuff uploaded soon too!

Reports? Come on, someone!

Someone over at the Brian community is at the show and posting.

Played so far (in no order):

Our Prayer
Heroes and Villains
Breakaway
Marcella
Little Bird (David)
Old Man River/Cottonfields (Al)
Please Let Me Wonder
California Girls
Girl Don't Tell Me
Don't Worry Baby (Jeff)
Do It Again
Summertime Blues (David)
Imagination
Let Him Run Wild (Jeff)
Going Home
That's Why God Made The Radio
Darlin' (Darian)
Pet Sounds
All Summer Long
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun
Help Me Rhonda
Summer's Gone

That looks fake. But it's awesome if it isn't

Breakaway and Old Man River! Murry syncopates it from hebbin! Our Prayer in a casino... whaaa but John Q Blackjack Public wants da hits!

Over on the other board that person said: Al....."we may might not be the beach boys...but we are the heart and soul" everyone stood and clapped and tore the roof off the place....then he said "mike love must have heard me i just blew an amp".

Alan Jardine!

And why would it look fake? They're all songs the C50 band and Brian's group have played regularly (with the exception of spotlight numbers for Al and Dave).

Also Darian on Darlin' and Dave on Pet Sounds.

It looks like that in terms of setlist, Brian, Al, and Dave are one-upping Mike and Bruce in every possible way.

Al is gonna get buried in bras tonight.

I was hoping to see something new in the setlist. :(

wow, if that set list is real  :o

Fingers crossed that it is!  That's fantastic!

Not enough Al leads so far...
Great list though!

Not fully detailed yet.  "Help Me Rhonda" is Al for sure.

I'm curious what merchandise they had at the show.

Right, that's a good point.

Well, the leads break down like this:

Brian: 12
Brian and Al: 2
Al: 2
Dave: 2
Jeff: 2
Darian: 1
Group: 2
Instrumental: 1

I don't know if Brian has ever done a show where he sings so few leads. It's actually a promising trend ...

That probably isn't the whole setlist since WIBN, GOK and SJB aren't mentioned. Al on partial lead on two more at least.

It was a casino show, so I'm guessing it's a shorter-than-usual set, whatever the case.

Hope so. Great setlist, but reminiscent of 06/07 when Al didn't get very many leads. Even just a few more would be nice. Al's voice is in great shape, he shouldn't just be in the background so much.

That crazily enthusiastic person posting a dozen one sentence threads about it said it was a 2.5 hour set with intermission. Looking forward to someone HERE telling us about it. Preferably as I eat a leisurely breakfast tomorrow. Slip the review under the door, thanks.

Couple of negative comments on the BW site about the meet and greets also. That's one thing consistent with the C50 then! :lol

I have to assume Brian and/or his "people" were the problem, since I can't see Al, David, or the other guys in that band having any problem taking a couple of minutes to sign things and posing for pictures if people are paying for it.  I can understand that Brian is not comfortable or too tired to do those things, but don't offer it to begin with.

I've know someone personally who is on the fringes of The Beach Boys and has met Brian Wilson many times. She explains, from her experiences, that Brian has two drastically different moods.

1) He is quiet and uncommunicative. You might get him to sign something for you, but don't expect him to look you in the eyes or acknowledge your presence.

2) He is outgoing and energetic. He seems happy and doesn't mind a bit to talk to you.

Sadly, it seems most of the time people experience the first one.

The complaint seems to be that nobody signed anything. The participants were handed a pre-signed photo printed on cheap paper. The M & G was advertised as an autograph event. That's false advertising and those people should get a refund. I also think I would feel ripped off getting so few Al leads. I wonder if this tour has any legs beyond the few dates they've booked, because I don't know why Al would be happy in such a small role.

There's not the full setlist yet, I'm sure he's got plenty to sing (Rhonda, California Saga, WIBN, etc) and judging by his interviews, he seems more than happy to be involved, is full of piss and vinegar, and the fall leg sounds like it'll have more new material.

It's ludicrous to think you're going to get meaningful personal interaction with Brian Wilson for $250 before a gig. Hell, on some days I can imagine he'd have no problem paying you $250 to leave him alone.

Spend it if you can blow the money, love soundchecks, and need a photo of yourself looking fat with your mouth hanging open next to people who want to get it over with because they are thinking about performing.

Just got home - great show, not at all abbreviated. David sang Little Bird and Summertime Blues, they did Ol' Man River into Cottonfields. Reall great show, even if BW was a bit out of it. Too tired for details, but the band didn't disappoint.

Setlist courtesy of a poster over on the BW.com board. I'm sure the comments and details will be expanded upon here:


Cal Girls
Catch A Wave
Dance Dance Dance
Girl Don't Tell Me
In My Room
Surfer Girl
Don't Worry baby (Jeff)
Then I Kissed Her (Al)
Please Let Me Wonder
Old Man River/Cottonfields (Al)
Little Bird! (David Lead vocal)
Our Prayer
Heroes & Villain's
Breakaway
Marcella
Do You Wanna Dance?
I Get Around

break

Do It Again
Summertime Blues (David lead)
Your Imagination
Let Him Run Wild (Jeff)
Goin Home
That's Why God Made The Radio
California Saga (Al)
Sail on Sailor (Scott Lead!)
Darlin (darian lead)
Pet Sounds
Wouldn't It Be Nice (Jeff)
Sloop John B
God Only Knows
Good Vibes

encores

all Summer Long
Rhonda (Al)
Barbara Ann (Brian dons Bas)
Surfin USA
Fun Fun Fun'
Summers Gone

Rock On!
Rich Meli


http://brianwilson.websitetoolbox.com/post/Set-List-AC-720-6436448

If those are the only songs that Al sang then they should give him another 10 leads or so...

IIRC, Al sings the chorus to Breakaway too. And I'd be surprised if he wasn't on WIBN with Jeff, which is how they did it on the C50 tour. He also has some featured bits on TWGMTR.

But all that being said, it was a Brian Wilson show, not an AJ one.

After the anniversary tour, Brian should be the lead on Sail on Sailor. Great setlist, either way.

It`s all about personal preference I guess (and obviously it depends on how accurate that setlist is).

For me, if these guys come to the U.K. I would much rather hear Al singing songs than Jeff, Scott and the others. If Brian doesn`t want to sing all of the songs then I can understand that but they should give a stack to Al. I would prefer to have him singing...well anything than to hear David singing Summertime Blues for example.

Maybe they will add stuff like Don`t Fight the Sea and Honkin` Down the Highway as Al hinted though.

Al did in fact sing lead on WIBN with Jeff and the chorus of Break Away, Tons of harmony too. He also sang half of Sloop John B.

So, this is shaping up to be one hell of a battle of bands isn't it

I was there last night and will add some photos and comments later today.  I also recorded almost the entire soundcheck (audio only) and will post that too

Nice setlist!
David mentioned last year that he'd like to do "Summertime blues". Personally I never liked the Beach Boys' version and especially not the overblown (imo) version that Mike & Bruce do from time to time. But I'd like to know how this band does it. Eddie Cochran's original recording is a timeless classic.

Thanks! Sounds fantastic! I hope they come to NY, but until then, I hope some great videos and recordings are posted!

Yes, he did seem a bit disconnected. It was a great show nonetheless. I was really blown away with them doing Ol' Man River. Jeff and Al were bantering about the next song being a water/land medley or something that that. So, I was shocked when they started with OMR. Doing both that and Cottonfields together worked really well. I was also surprised to hear Break Away. I had to laugh at Al. When they came back from intermission, he told us that they were the Beach Boys without the name, the heart & soul of the Beach Boys. Very similar to his comments last week in the article. He then had buzzing problems with an amplifier, then said Mike Love must have been listening. Jeff and David seemed to get a good chuckle from the comments, but Brian sat there stoic. The audience had a good laugh too.

I thought Scott did a great job with Sail On Sailor, as well as Darian with Darlin'. Al was in good voice, but I think he forgot lyrics here and there. I found him glancing to Jeff a few times for help. Dave sang well, and his guitar was finally up in the mix. Again, Nelson was a hoot to watch. The guy plays percussion like he has 4 arms and hands. They had a few false starts, so you knew you were at the opening tour show, but man that band is terrific. Great Show!

Inclusion of Our Prayer, Heroes, Breakaway, California Saga, Let Him Run Wild, Darlin, TWGMTR and especially Little Bird and Ol' Man River (and the overall "deep" nature of the show) makes me think that someone with a little marketing sense has helped with the set list – this is a great taster for the box set, a treat for the hardcore fans yet doesn't alienate the passing fans.

Surprised not to see one or two more BW solo tunes in there tho'… maybe we'll have to wait for his own career retrospective box before we get Rio Grande performed live…!

What hold does Jeff have over Al? He's so controlling. I'm worried. Bacon bacon.

No hold. Remember, Al was going to him. Actually, Jeff had to jump in for both Al and Brian a few times throughout the second set. Also, I love how neither Brian or Al have big egos. Every time either guy received a standing ovation, they acted quite modest about it. They received many throughout the evening.

"Yes, he did seem a bit disconnected. "

He seemed like that last summer at the Hollywood Bowl, looked miserable.   That is the reason, along with the horrible vocals, that I will not go to see him solo anymore.  The guy is not capable of carrying a concert by himself.

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If you go in to a Brian Wilson gig expecting to be riveted by his on stage theatrics then that's your problem.

If you go in expecting to hear a selection of songs from the greatest catalog in the history of music done by the man who wrote them, well expect to be entertained

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The Hollywood Bowl show was epic! I can't imagine walking out of that and thinking "nah, I don't want to see Brian Wilson again."

 He seemed to be having more fun at the Irvine gig, but that's probably because I had a better seat on his side and could see the goofy expressions. I think he's great these days when he's on and into it -- really a treat hearing him belt out "Sail On, Sailor" with a sprinklin' of growl.

If the lead vocals by BW were good, the lack of an on stage presence wouldn't bother me.  However, it has been my experience that his lead vocals are poor.  I was surprised to read that Al, who is a treat to listen to, didn't have more leads in last night's show.

He can take center stage for "Al Jardine with Brian Wilson and David Marks" next time around, then.

Posted by Al on his facebook site:

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Would that be... THE WHITE SUIT?

Found some videos on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfgm46POSes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfgm46POSes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-aSKCd4rFc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-aSKCd4rFc)

i found the soundcheck to be very uncomfortable Brian said a few times thats it he was done and no one listened t was my first show just never realized it was that bad for him overall i thought it was  great show with great sound

Yep, and he looked cool in it too. Al has a very nice stage presence. He acts very genuine up there. Al, David, and Jeff shared the front man duties, introducing songs and interacting with the audience. Brian introduced a couple songs, but man, he was stoic up there for most of the show. Gotta love him, though, he plows his way through each and every show. :)

Oh, and Brian's singing was pretty decent. Hit quite a few high notes along the way. His biggest thing was that he would just stop singing. I guess he forgot the words, but Jeff had to jump in there a time or two.

and the meet and great was bs i think vip1 package was basically the same as vip2 just better seats even though it was sold as different

Ouch. That kind of stuff really bothers me somehow. It's uncomfortable sitting in an audience waiting to be, well, entertained by someone you sense doesn't even want to be there. But this is an old topic and I'm well aware it all depends on his specific mood of the day - but still...

Eh, first night. In a few shows all of us who can read Brian's mind from Q25 will be reporting how much FUN he's having and how Phil Spector's voice isn't troubling him as much.

Thanks for the review.  That "Old Man River"/"Cottonfields" medley, in particular, sounds like it might've been pretty neat.

Can I ask, how was "Summer's Gone"?
 

Yes, Old Man River and Break Away were quite a treat. It is so cool to hear stuff that you never expected to be in the set list. As for Summer's Gone, Brian did a pretty nice job on it. It sounded to me like at least two people were ghosting his lead, one being Jeff, but I could not tell who the other might have been. Brian even had the high voice going for that one. Instrumentally, it sounded almost like the recording.

Wow!  :o

I hope there will be a vid posted of "Little Bird".

The sound quality on those YT vids is really good for audience recordings.

That's great, thanks.  First impressions suggest this will be quite a series of shows, no?  As this show seems not to be traveling all that far and wide, though, I hope some recordings capture these type of cool moments.

As far as "Summer's Gone" is concerned, I'm sill hoping for a "From There to Back Again"/"Pacific Coast Highway"/"Summer's Gone" medley.  Making use of Al's presence for 'FTtBA' seems to make sense, and I think that collectively, these three numbers could potentially make for a pretty spectacular part of a Brian Wilson show.

My thought, exactly for Brian to be front and center between Al and Dave.  He is so far back.  

But, I saw that well-conceptualized difference as between the setlists.

The Touring Band does a lot of those other songs in the UK, such as SOSailor, so a date-specific setlist is not determinative?

Thanks to the YouTube poster.  I like Imagination, and they did a good job with TWGMTR.

The Touring Band did Good to My Baby.  This is good! Lots of variety, which, of course is the, "spice of life."

Bravo to both bands.   ;)

Al still rocks that 1967-8 era suit.  

It suits him! (did I say that?)  :lol

I was mesmerized by the power of the white suit last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pewlx_ACPZQ

He's gotta keep that look going. Beats ponytails.


I was babbling about that in the other thread, it's a brilliant way to go and would be written up in all the reviews along with Jardine snark. Of course, in a few months they'll have the new stuff to showcase as well. But it would be great as an encore finale.

I would say it's stage logistics. Not practical to put Brian's big faux piano center stage. Brian is where he was for the C50. I'd say, for him, it's all about the music. Can't help but miss the front man, whats his name.

Dirk Benedict?

Missed the show - saw The Monkees instead. Was unwilling to travel that far, anyway.  Am I the only one that's put off by the way Al has been acting? He's always been a very classy guy, in my mind, and spouting off about how B.A.D are "The Real Beach Boys" (or however he phrased it), and making digs at Mike Love, isn't cool. He doesn't need to resort to that level. It's all just phony theatrics to me.

As far as the Brian off-to-stage-left thing, I don't get it either. It's his show. I understand the man has mental issues and stage fright. It's amazing that he's still doing this, and as far as I can tell, it's for his fans, not a cash grab. But, if I'm going to see Brian Wilson as the main attraction, why can't they ditch the white grand and put him front center???

I'd go to see the tour if it comes to my town, because it's Brian. I hope he just had some first-night jitters and gets into it as the (short) tour goes along. If he's not enjoying it, what's the point?

Brian Wilson needs no theatrical props. He is Brian Wilson. It isn't C50.  He was fantastic in the front and center spot with his keyboard. Visually, I think it separates the three principals. Brian is the leader.  Leaders are at the front. I don't joke about the "front man." But, Mike is not there.

Brian looks "prestigious" with the big piano but he isn't with "the people" as he has been since he started as a solo artist.  Having seen him about ten times as a solo artist, he did great front and center.  

It was nice to see Melinda and his family in the audience on the YouTube !

JMHO.  

I think Al's remarks last night were in deference to Brian. Though, I suppose Mike's decision to go on without them is sticking in his crawl a little. I thought it was funny though, when he blamed Mike for his amp malfunction directly after making the "heart & soul" comment. Face it, without Brian, they would have all been, as Patton once said "shoveling sh*t in Louisiana".

I was there and Brian and his fake baby grand were right up front. Stretched across the stage, the four principle singers were lined up as such, Jeff, Brian, Al & David.

While what Brian wants versus what he does is very debatable, I would imagine in this particular case Brian is using whatever keyboard and stage setup he wants. It doesn't seem far off on stage in the pics and videos I'm seeing, and I like how all three of the "BAD" lineup are up front. Coolness as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks for posting the YouTube links.  "Your Imagination" was great.  Loved it.

I don't know how I feel about Scott Bennett singing "Sail On Sailor," I mean I'm sure Scott sounds great on it but Brian really made that song his own last year.

Your Imagination is a terrible song. . . . As for TWGMTR, it sounds great every time you can't hear Jeff, but beyond those 2 seconds, it's drunk karaoke again. . .
I will not pay to hear JF drown out the BB. . . .just terrible. I miss the BB after seeing this. . . . . .

Scott did it justice last night. Haven't we been complaining about Brian carrying too much of the load on lead vocals? I also thought Jeff did a nice job on Let Him Run Wild, as well.

Your Imagination is a great song! And, it's quite possible it's the sound of the video from the phone that makes it sound like Jeff is dominant. It always sounds different when you're actually there.

Glad to see Al got more leads than first indicated. He's the guy I'd like to see. I would never pay to see Brian again, mostly for the reasons people stated here, but I've seen him before. If a person hasn't seen Brian, I'd recommend seeing him at least once. I don't mind Al's bitterness. He's an old guy and entitled to tell Mike Love to get off of his lawn.

Sloop John B

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4qjvJQssMs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4qjvJQssMs)

My wife and I spent the weekend in AC and were fortunate enough to catch the show. We had seats towards the back, directly in front of Mary Ann Jardine in the audio area, but the seats and views were excellent. Small room for the most part and raised in the back. It was a great show; Al really shined, though Brian seemed a bit off and out of it some. The song selection was good, loved Dave's Little Bird, and Old Man River was cool. Al sang really well too, and interacted with the crowd quite a bit. During dinner Saturday, it was neat that Darian and his party, and Dave and his party, all dined across from our table. Didn't want to interrupt either but being in the same restaurant was pretty cool; our waiter told us Bria and his family were in the night before and he used the pseudo name "Vito Salutation" for the reservation....said everyone got a good laugh out of it when they found out it was really Brian.

Good show, very much enjoyed it; audience loved it! Got many many great pics too.

Haha, "Vito Salulation"

I'm not saying Brian's solo career is wonderful, but "Your Imagination" is terrible? Really? This coming from the guy who pooped his pants over "Stowaway" and "Spring Vacation"? You're an odd guy professor.

It's interesting, when I saw the Beach Boys last year, I thought the songs Brian sang lead on were the highlights of the show.  I guess I'm in the minority there.  Or maybe I just saw him on a really good night because I thought he sounded great.

Some random thoughts...

I`m glad that most seem to have enjoyed the show but I`m relieved that I didn`t attend this one. I`ve seen a Brian show where he clearly didn`t want to be there and his band had to introduce the songs for him and it was painful to watch. The only concert I have ever been to where I left before the end.

Meet and greets are a pretty unpleasant modern phenomenon.

I agree with those suggesting that From There to Back Again would be a great choice for the setlist.

The sound quality of those youtube clips isn`t really good enough to judge them on but personally I think they could choose easier songs for Brian to sing. Too much Jeff on those...

This kind of tour is great for Brian, as he really doesn't like being the frontman. This gives all 4 of the front guys a chance share the frontman role. As for Jeff, you'll never hear Brian doing his old parts in these shows. Jeff is the old Brian at the shows, while Brian is the new Carl and Mike on lead vocals, and Mike on the background vocals.

That depends on the choice of songs though doesn`t it. I wouldn`t expect Brian to be singing falsetto but he could still easily sing his original lead from Caroline No for example. I presume he did sing Please Let me Wonder unaided. I personally think Brian sounds a lot better on some of his original leads than when he is singing some of the Mike songs. Al would be a better choice for those.

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I think most people did enjoy Brian's work on the C50 tour. But he is a highly variable, sensitive and mentally ill dude. A vocal minority would prefer he stayed at home and not made them feel awkward.

I am a big fan, but want to hear quality vocals during a concert I pay for, nothing more than that.  I enjoyed the Hollywood Bowl show, but thought Brian's leads were not up to snuff. 

Believe me, I'm in no way a "Brianista" (although I am aware I come off that way at times) and having never seen Brian or the Beach Boys live, I was expecting to just go to the concert for the experience, having a feeling I would never get another chance to see them all together live (and I was right).  But I was blown away and was very impressed by Brian's performance.  I didn't see a deteriorated pop musician going through the motions which is what I expected, I saw a soulful man with a beautifully rough voice singing his heart out on some of his greatest songs.  And I hope he announces more tour dates because I really want to experience that again.

I was really disappointed by "Your Imagination" on record, but live it was really light on its feet -- a classic Brian Wilson tune which only needed a sympathetic arrangement.  Kind of like "Love And Mercy" was transformed by stripping it down...

Cheers,
Jon Blum

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There is a difference between not wanting to feel awkward and not wanting to watch a man perform when he obviously has no interest in being there whatsoever. With Brian`s shows it all depends on how lucky or unlucky you are.

guys, drop this eye rolling thang. its BAD!!

I was there last night and had an incredible time!  I thought Brian was more engaged than any of the 4 C50 appearances I went to last year.  I love the guy, getting to see him perform this day and age  is a total treat.  Absolutely magical experience, if you can go, do yourself a favor and go see this incredible show.  Band was fantastic!  Couldn't believe when I heard Old Man River, always a personal favorite of mine. 

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Wow! Ol' Man River...

Well, guess I'm going to have to go for broke and seeing him this Saturday!  ;D

Triple Badd Brian, Al, Dave

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And throw in a  :o for good measure.

dude, you honor me by remembering my comments on those songs. I stand by them.though I must admit that I am very sour on hearing almost anything now that is not the beloved Beach Boys themselves, so a Brian's song, especially from the landy era is not going to do much for me. I did just hear sloop which sounded pretty good mainly because somehow Jeff was restrained. perhaps al told him, hey let us do it like we did on the record it worked in Pet Sounds with just me and brjan so maybe we can try that huh? I am referring to the first famous harmony section where we only hear Alan and Brian on the record


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I'm not saying Brian's solo career is wonderful, but "Your Imagination" is terrible? Really? This coming from the guy who pooped his pants over "Stowaway" and "Spring Vacation"? You're an odd guy professor.
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I SAID DROP IT.

A very entertaining, thought provoking show in Pittsburgh tonight. Having Brian joined with Al and Dave made this much, much more than another solo Brian show. Much much more than another spin through the hits. I'll add some notes when I wake up on Monday.

I shot vids of Ol' Man River/Cottonfields, Pet Sounds and Summer's Gone. Shot through a standard point n shoot Samsung camera, audio's iffey but I think you'll be pleased (kicking myself why I didn't also shoot Little Bird - very cool rendition with Dave). I'll post 'em on Youtube and get you the url's tomorrow.

Photos as well coming.

Ladies and Gentlemen...Pittsburgh welcomes...the BEACH, ahhh I mean...Brian, Al, and DAVE!

(http://i43.tinypic.com/2hrd36v.jpg)

Whoah, as a major doo wop fan, and knowing that Brian really digs that type of music as well, I'll bet a hundred bucks that he or someone close to him chose that name thinking of THESE guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qujpmdx8H3I

How cool is that? :-) I'm gonna be Carl Passion next time I book a table.

Nice catch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CovyvgMZPc

Hell of a show in Pittsburgh last night!! I was the younger dude with long hair kneeling down behind the front row and eventually hanging over the guardrail. I singing everything, making eye contact and making Al laugh by holding my fingers over my nose to impersonate ML! During the intermission I talked to Probyn for a little asking if they were going to do anything off of LY and he said "No, we used to do the Night is So Young". For idiotic purposes I said what about "Wouldn't it be nice (To Live Again?)" and he had a look like "Wtf, lol.." and I was screaming THE BOX SET, MADE IN CALIFORNIA?!?!?! He ran backstage laughing and saying "I don't know!!" lol. Some girl was obsessed with Jeff and HAD to get his autograph... to each their own. I yelled at Scott to get me the set list and he promised after the show, which I doubted. Well, after the gig he was LOOKING FOR ME, good thing I was up on the guardrail and he came to me and said to every one "He screamed the loudest!" and gave me the set. He threw the other one to which I did a barrel roll and almost took out a woman...but I got it, lol. Two set list, talking to the band and eye contact with Brian, Al and Dave..wow. I was very close, almost in Brian's face so a few times we did exchange glances at each other but it was like he was looking right through me. Am I vain enough to think BW was acknowledging me in particular? No. But I was singing every song, going wild and screaming their names, so who knows. Surreal.

Musically, I don't think it was as tight as the C50 show but I loved the laid back vibe. A few mess ups and false starts here and there but it happens to the best of them. Brian sounded pretty good and really damn good in the 2nd set. Holy sh*t... when they did Ol' Man River...Heaven. "Girl don't tell me" is a huge favorite of my girlfriend's so that was awesome too!! I loved "Your Imagination" to me, it sounded better than the record, ahem Joe Thomas. "Little Bird" was so funky amazing vocal by Dave, only thing missing was my bong."Summer's Gone" was so out of key but oh well, great tune. Would of liked to see something from LY and "Love and Mercy" to end the show but damn what an experience.

I wish they could do this forever but I really feel like Brian is getting too old to do the touring. His voice an still be great and his writing is apparently still there but when does the ride stop? I really hope I have the opportunity to see him again.

Hey man! That sounds fantastic! Yeah, about the BW looks, I think he's got something for the younger people going to his shows. I may be crazy, but I think he finds comfort in knowing his music is going to live forever :) Outside the gig at one of the shows I went to, they pulled right up to the door, and I yelled "Hey there Brian!" and he smiled and waved at me through the whole crowd! :)

I forgot to mention.. I was walking around a lot of the time saying "SMILEY SMILE MESSAGE BOARD?!" Not one response. Would of been AWESOME to meet someone there! Next time.

It's far out to make eye contact with your #1 idol. How does that even happen?! I feel so lucky, I couldn't imagine how the people feel who actually know him! Such a presence.

Your Imagination isn't from the Landy era. Landy departed in 1992. YI was written five years later.

I've seen Brian live nine times.

2000 -- Pet Sounds live show
2001 -- With Paul Simon
2004 -- Smile live show
2006 -- Pet Sounds with Al
2007 -- Greatest hits summer show
2009 -- Legendary fall tour (two shows)
2012 -- Two C50 dates

And oddly enough, my experience is very much the opposite of people who talk about Brian as an on-and-off-again live performer. Over those years, what has always struck me about Brian is how very consistent he is. He has always done full sets with encores, always tried his best with the songs he played, and always interacted with the audience. And there has nearly always been magic produced. Every audience, big and small, has been effusive and pleased.

Now, the levels of inspiration at those shows has varied widely. Brian was on fire in 2000 and 2009. He was clearly bored in 2007. The other shows fell between those two poles. But I've seen other shows -- Elton John and Billy Joel, for one -- where the two lead performers were clearly going through the motions. Yet no one would say those performers shouldn't tour. Just that they perhaps need a new setlist and a nap.

It's also clear that Brian is never going to perform a flawless live show. It ain't gonna happen. He is going to be flat, he's going to forget lines, he's going to look terrified at times. (These things will happen at both his most and least inspired shows.) And with a few exceptions, he generally isn't interested in reinterpreting his songs live. So he's going to perform song x in basically the same way in 2000 and 2004 and 2007 and 2012. It's one of the reasons he's not necessarily a great performer for hits-only tours, and why variable setlists are his friend.

Brian has gracefully ceded the limelight over the years, too, allowing the band to take a bigger role in the proceedings. I think the BAD tour is an extension of that, and I'd frankly expect that this become the standard model BW show for the future. He doesn't have to sing all the tunes, there are other front-line guys to tell stories, and he can concentrate on singing harmonies and playing piano (both of which he loves). It's a nice way to pass the baton.

These shows were never to everyone's taste, either fans or critics. Just like everything in Brian's solo career, sometimes the weight of the past seems too much for this fragile man to bear. But for many of us, there have been a host of transcendent moments, and communal experiences that we wouldn't give up for anything.

I loudly called out to Brian at the Perth C50 show when he strapped on his bass. He looked straight me with the most frightened look I've seen and it made my heart sink. I hope I get to see him again when he's in better spirits because that image of him etched in my brain is a bit disheartening to think about.

This.

In 2011 I took my wife (casual BB enthusiast) to Brian's date at the Royal Festival Hall. He did the entire Gershwin record, then a full set of hits and deep cuts. She came away believing it was the best concert she'd ever been to because she didn't expect to be riveted by some stage presence...she got caught up in the music.

ALso remember that Brian *can* carry a whole concert...but it very much depends on how he is feeling that day. He suffers from mental illnesses that are well documented and his mood/condition varies a lot from day to day. I've been lucky that the two BW gigs and the C50 gig I attended....Brian was on it. But I accept that may not always be the case.

As for where he and his piano are on stage. Wherever he feels comfortable. That piano is a big security blanket, he needs it to feel comfy...I think it separates him from the crowd. If Brian needs a "security blanky" to feel comfortable and fight his stagefright then so be it. The dude can sit where he likes.

Long time lurker, rare poster here.  I wanted to share some pics and video from the Atlantic City show Saturday night.   GREAT show!  Mike Love was not missed and I truly mean that.  The band sounded incredible.  Brian was Brian.  Although when he warmed up a little he sounded really good.  I caught him looking at his watch several times during the 2nd set and noticed that he started missing lyrics more as the time went on.  He nearly ran off the stage when it ended, but I noticed he's walking around much better than last years BB50 show I saw.  The back surgery seems to have helped him greatly.  Foskett sounded decent too, and I'm not usually a fan of him.  He bailed Brian (and Al) out several times when they missed lines. 

Noteworthy famous people in the audience were Mark Lindsay of Paul Revere and the Raiders, and Melinda with Brian's son.  Mark Lindsay sat maybe 15 feet from me in the audience and Melinda walked through the crowd several times with Brian's son. 

I took my girlfriend who's a casual BB/Brian Wilson fan and she was absolutely floored by the musicianship of these guys.  As I sat there I couldn't help but think 1) I hope this isn't the last time I see Brian live, but I have a feeling it might be.  He's looking quite frail lately.  and 2) This is the equivalent to watching Mozart!  Here's the guy that wrote and recorded all this amazing music, live and in person.  He's got no idea how amazing he is and here he is with a dynamic band playing his creations.  It's almost surreal!

Also, I met a really cool guy named "Roger", never got his last name.  I think he lurks here.  If he sees this, shoot me a PM!



Pictures here, some are blurry.... sorry

http://s1079.photobucket.com/user/smyleysmyle/library/Brian%20Wilson%20Concert%207-20-2013


Video here... not real clear sound or video, but has some cool parts.  Small snippet of Dave doing Little Bird which was kick ass!

http://youtu.be/dCG1Ja-G5zA

I like how Brian forgot David's name  :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

...and even more impressive, the back of my head at the top of the video.   :lol

I'm the guy looking down at his phone trying to rid himself of a migraine.

Seeing them perform "Little Bird" made my day. :3d


It's 2013 and Brian along with Al and Dave and a stellar backing band perform a Dennis tune that hasn't been played live in 40+ years. It's a small miracle.

Here is a public link to some photos of the AC show - you don't need a FB account to view them:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152089750957942.1073741826.833472941&type=1&l=3d0e45c620


And then here are my semi-rambling show notes:

soundcheck - there is a lot to say, if you want to hear samples of it please pm me. 

meet and greet - they sold a lot of these, I would say about 200... basically it was an assembly line photo.  They did smile for every photo... we were also given a cheap t-shirt and photo, but it appears the photos may not have actually been signed by brian.  They have emailed us asking for mailing addresses to get better quality photos in the mail.  The only reason I like the meet and greet is b/c of the soundcheck access and the amazing seats, I probably wouldn't do it again, but it's nice to get a photo w/ the legend too I suppose

Show notes:

The security up front was asking people to sit down during most of the first set.  During the very beginning, Paul Mertens expressed a very visible reaction to the notion of making people stay seated at a concert... and attempted to get the crowd even more fired up.  It was strange b/c brian called him over and (likely) asked him to cut it out.  Even Brian himself started motioning for people to sit down during the first song or two.  It was all a little distracting and I had a hard time focusing on the show until a few songs in.

The instrumental mix up front was pretty decent but the vocal mix was terrible.  Jeff was up WAY too high (signal almost so loud it was clipping) and Al was a bit too high as well.  It was very difficult to hear Brian up front.  I don't know if we were just in a bad spot, or if the monitor mix was cutting in but I verified that it sounded LOADS better in the back near the soundboard.  Oh well - I guess every seat has it's tradeoffs.

It was evident in the soundcheck that they were still "learning" new things and making changes to some of the arrangements.  It was pretty cool to see that in person and in spite of the first show sometimes being an addl rehearsal, it was neat to see them take some chances.  I was a little disappointed that Dave Marks wasn't playing consistent lead during the show.  I guess it makes sense since he was featured as a guest, but he was more prominent in the 50th tour imo.  Dave was featured on a number of tunes and took some good solos but in general he was playing rhythm for a lot of the show.  I was watching closely to see if he'd play the doubled up lead line on dance, dance, dance and he didn't but I could tell he was thinking about trying it!  Maybe in the next few shows.

In my room and surfer girl kinda went together well and was when I finally felt like I could get used to dancing in my seat.  I know some people like to sit and observe the show w/o too much moving around, but I am not one of them.  I would have liked to been on my feet the entire time even during the slow tunes to rock back and forth or something, either way, it was cool b/c I was so happy to be there and just enjoy the show.

Don't worry baby was typical but as one of my personal favorites don't mind seeing Jeff take the lead there.  Then I kissed her.... Al couldn't remember if it was performed by the Crystals or the Ronettes asking the crowd which it was - honestly I like the original almost better than be my baby so always thrilled they keep this on the list.  Al did a good lead.

Old man river was a little rough harmonically, they did it a few times during soundcheck.. the transition to cottonfields was pretty cool though and during the show itself Al NAILED the delivery.  It was a personal highlight of the night for me.  Little Bird - I may be a bit of a casual fan compared to a lot of people on this board, all I knew is that it was a rare bustout, and a very bizarre interesting tune.  I've got the audio from the soundcheck.  It was neat to see them do something that obviously would be a bit outside the expected songlist. I need to listen to this more to decide what I really think, but at the time I remember thinking it was odd in a good way.

Our Prayer was great but the transition to H&V was not quite as seamless as I might have hoped.  I thought they were going to do something else for a minute until H&V actually kicked in.  I don't know for sure but I thought Brian pretty much carried the lead on this all the time... Jeff had to help out and sing some of the verses on this and a few others from my recollection.  Either way, H&V is one of my all time favorites so seeing it was great.

Marcella was another one where I thought Jeff sang more than I expected him to.  I wish I knew if Brian was loud and clear in the back of the venue during this and H&V but I could barely hear him on it.  He was however, doing the "hand motions" on this and Sail on Sailor.

Do You Wanna Dance? is when the energy in the room shifted.  I actually went to get a drink right at the beginning and by the time I got to the soundboard, the whole venue was on their feet (finally!)  It was cool to see people decide to go for it and the energy persisted through the end of the set w/ I get around (no one sat down).

There was a time in the set after one song where Brian said something like, "do you like his guitar?" when people yelled yeah he straight yelled back "DO YOU LIKE MY PIANO?"  people cheered and it was the best moment of banter in the set imo.


Second set:

As noted Al mentioned how they were the heart of the beach boys even though they may not be touring under the name..  I think every single person in the room was on their feet cheering for that, then the guitar came unplugged or something and the feedback was attributed to Mike Love in some fashion.  People generally sat and stood at will during the second set depending on the song.. good vibe and the crowd was drawn into the show more and more as the night went on.

Summertime Blues was cool, I like when Dave sings and it was a good time.  Your Imagination was a little weak.  I was thrilled to see TWGMTR - love the song, it has an awesome arrangement... try playing it on the piano and you will see how many chords their really are.. Seriously though, this is a beach boys song right, and Mike and Bruce ("the beach boys") aren't doing it to my knowledge... was glad brian's guys didn't shy away from a complicated song.  Would have liked to see stronger Brian on Sail on Sailor.  Please remember it may have been different in the back, but I think of Sail on Sailor as one that Brian would be taking the lead on, and in general wish he had sang more.  It's possible he wasn't having a great day but I haven't seen enough of him lately to know. First gig etc etc... hard to say.  He was WAY more involved in London last September on a lot of the tracks.

Encore was great - Al on Rhonda is really like stepping back into the time when it was recorded and Brian getting up w/ the bass is always cool!

All in all, it was an awesome show that will likely improve if they continue to play.  Loved being so close that I could watch all the musicians and was thrilled that they had two full sets even for a show that started at 9PM.  People were into the experience whether they were casual or serious fans from what I could see.  The fact that I can see Brian Wilson w/ such amazing musicians and Al and Dave at this stage in the game is really something I'm not taking for granted so it's fair to say I had a blast and am going to head out to LA in October.  Let me know if you have any questions and I'll try to respond or PM me about the soundcheck.  best wishes friends

Thanks for that, very interesting. Did they rehearse anything in the soundcheck not in the show? WHAAAAAAAAAAT. Was Al begging on hands and knees for Don't Fight the Sea?

Sure thing - As far as I know everything in the soundcheck was played.  They were running tunes before they let us in though so I can't be sure

Man, I really can't tell if that was just a case of Brian cracking a joke or not. I seriously hope it was! :o

Is Joe Thomas involved in this tour? I'm just curious, since they played "Imagination." It's not one of my favorite songs, but it is associated with Joe.

Why would the producer of an album be involved in a small tour during which they play only a single song off said album? ;) Besides, Brian likes it and it has been popping up regularly at Brian's solo shows in the past 10-15 years.

Should I be bring something to get signed at the OHIO BAD show tonight? I don't have VIP nor meet and greet but I did read one person say that they got Al and Dave's autograph and they didn't have VIP…has anyone else heard more about this?

I was thinking of bringing my TLOS record, just in case I see some of the backing band, I was thinking of bringing the Surfer Girl album for Dave to sign…now it just leaves something for Al to sign, I was thinking of bringing my Friends Lp, the MIU album, or something else, I pretty much have all their albums on vinyl, just trying to pick the one in the best condition and that I associate Al with mostly.

I'd say bring your stuff, one may always get lucky. Get to the stage right after the concert and yell the loudest, intercept the principals & band at the bus etc. - weird things happen at a concert. :)

Oh! And I forgot to ask, I heard about Wilson Phillips opening at the Michigan show, was that advertised? Or did if just happen as a surprise? Because if so, it'd be awesome.

It was mentioned on this board a few months ago.

Are they doing any other shows?

Who knows. Maybe their touring schedules overlapped. Maybe Wilson Phillips are along for a couple of gigs. Let 'em suprise you. :)

I'd love to see Brian sing "In My Room" with his daughters.

IIRC they recorded a version of "In my room" on their "California"-album with just Brian, Wilson Phillips and piano

Right. And there is another video clip of them singing "In My Room" for some documentary or TV Special or something. Can't remember exactly, I saw it years ago.

Here's Old Man River/Cotton Fields live in Ohio. I don't have the intro nor the ending, sorry I'm lame like that.
You can read my description on the video as to why:


http://youtu.be/hOJWkwvhY_U

What a fun addition to the setlist, go Al!

Can anyone report on attendance?  I was told that sales were slow but I am hearing dates so far are near or at capacity,

LET'S GO, M0THERFUCKERS

Al sounds fab. The crowd are really into aren't they ?

I'm not sure if they were conscious!

They were INTO it in Pittsburgh!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hGq8YOhD-I&feature=youtu.be (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hGq8YOhD-I&feature=youtu.be)

"In My Room" in Michigan with Wilson Phillips (posted on Carnie Wilson's Twitter feed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcvxR6gtAWA

The show last night in Kettering looked pretty packed!

Brian seemed to be in a good mood last night.

"Let's all go to McDonald's and get some hamburgers!"

 :lol

That was definitely my favorite part of the whole show.
 :lol

Yeah, my girlfriend looked at me like, what was that all about?


But I have to say, there were a few spots Brian or someone missed their cue on lead vocal, very noticeable and Catch a Wave. I kinda cringed as they were singing H&V and I could tell by the way Brian was holding his hand that he wanted the spotlight out of his eyes and during one of the last parts he stopped singing and said "can you turn that light off" or something like that. I woulda felt dumb if I were light guy.



PS, while the jerk security got after me about the filming on my phone, I did get the audio to Summer's Gone as I just pointed my phone down and recorded…I'll try to post it later today.

Brian also did this thing about "how did everyone get here tonight? By airplane or by car?"
Then he said "say yeah if you got here by car."   Then that was it, they went into the next song, I thought he'd ask something else.

I kinda felt like there wasn't a lot of banter between the guys at the Ohio show, or maybe just from what I'd read, I was expecting more. Al made no mention of being the "heart of the Beach Boys" as I've heard he has been saying that in previous shows.

Set list change- no Let Him Run Wild nor Breakaway. I was really hoping for those two. Oh well, it was a nice kinda intimate show.

I thought the show in Kettering was really good.  I even enjoyed the mistakes--Al hitting the wrong note on his guitar for "Sloop John B".  I'm very glad "Your Imagination" was in the show...unless I'm mistaken, it may have received the biggest applause of the night.  "Our Prayer" was so incredible...indescribable actually.  "Goin' Home" was fun...not deep at all...right up there with "Goin' to the Beach".  I realized something last night that had escaped me before...during "California" there is that 'Cool, Cool Water' background going on.  It could have been David Marks just having some fun, but it sure sounded like it was meant to be there.
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I think California has always had that "water water, get yourself in the cool clear water" which has reminded me if CCW.


I enjoyed Probyn on banjo.
The part on Little Bird with the banjo and muted trumpet (CITFOTM part) by Probyn was awesome.
Scott Bennet's lead on Sail on Sailor was great!
The way they performed Little Bird was so flipping good! As they sang"what beautiful day" parts, they kinda held up their arms in observing how much of a beautiful day it was.
Summertime Blues was an obvious highlight to me, Davs's guitar work was fantastic.
This was the closest I've ever been at a BW/BB show, I was in front row of the second section so as I stood up, I was eye level with some of the guys, mostly Al and Brian sitting at piano. It was awesome to be so close. Only problem with my seating was that I was on stage left so far that the large column was in the way of part of Nicky Wonder and Bob Lizik.
Paul Mertins always has such a good time, he's so talented. As are ALL of the band is so very talented.

Thanks. Great to hear. Sounds like I got some bum info about poor ticket sales.

It's great the shows are being well attend and everyone's having fun. Lord knows we won't be getting a reunion anytime soon so this will do.

A mostly lurker reporting...

Besides the previously mentioned stuff, it was a bit unusual when immediately after singing TWGMTR, Brian announced the next song as " we're going to do one now from our latest album". I believe the next song was actually God Only Knows. And he also told the crowd to sit down right before "I Get Around."  ???

I was four rows from the stage and I enjoyed it more than last year's 50th concert.

Good show tonight at Ravinia. We didn't get "Break Away" or "Let Him Run Wild" but, though he did not play bass, Brian was in a great mood. Laughing a little, smiling. He got standing ovations for "Heroes" and "God Only Knows". Al sang great and wore the white suit. David did a great job on guitar., he brings kind of an edge to the show that Al or Brian wouldn't have without him. I enjoyed all the new things like "Little Bird", "Old Man River". "Marcella" cooked, and "Heroes and Villains" deserved the ovation it got. I did miss Mike, if not Bruce quite as much. Still it was great to see the three of them together and playing well. Being second row was pretty awesome too!

Another Ravinia note - after H&V, Brian started to introduce the next song while we were still cheering.  Al interrupted Brian and told him that he should let us finishing showing our appreciation.  Then to us, he said something like, "How about the greatest songwriter of all time!" and we all went crazy.  I thought that was cute. 

God I hope they come to Australia! It sounds like they are cooking.

It really is a good show.

I just want to say, and this isn't against Brian at all, not a put down or anything, it's just how I observed him, but the way I saw him at the Kettering show, I'm VERY surprised he's still productive and is working on 3 albums. Again, I hope it doesn't seem like I'm putting him down, I love Brian from the bottom of my heart and soul and would never give him grief or crap.…and I believe he can do whatever he wants.

Care to elaborate on your particular observations?

Brian had a great line last night when he introduced Al: "And now, I'd like to introduce our reliable friend, great singer, good personality..." And then Jeff had to actually say Al Jardine's name.

Well, lets put it in perspective, I am a younger fan, I saw BW open for Paul Simon in 2002 BWPS LIVE in 2004, 2012 50th anniversary show in NJ, and then this show. I think back to the other shows and he just seemed so energetic, hand motioning, more banter, and a little more enthusiasm. I felt that wasn't the case on Thursday night.
Now don't get me wrong, adding little vocal bites of his own that may not be on the record, I will take BW anyway he wants to present himself, I never want to take it for granted.
But anyways, my observations just seemed like either he was tired or his mind was somewhere else. The aforementioned lyrical mess ups at the beginning are understandable…I just don't want Brian to be like he was in the later mid to late 70s, like a trained bear and everyone's looking in on him, waiting for the next trick.

Again, if I come across as sounding like a jerk, I apologize, it's just the love I have for this man that I'd like to see what's best for him AND what he wants.

Glad I caught him on a better night because he was so not the "caged bear". Never saw him smile so much as last night.

Since I live in Highland Park, how could I not go over to Ravinia?  Well I would have gone anywhere in the area to see this, but it's nice to have the show in my backyard.  I enjoyed the show, but I though C50 was on a different level - you really have to have Mike too.  I like that Brian's band tends to be more featured with him than on C50, but last year was just something really special having all the boys together along with a better production and longer setlist.  That being said, I enjoyed the show overall.  I noticed that I was right by Joe Thomas too, but he left before I could say something to him. ;D

The highlight for me (and even my not always into the BB girlfriend) was Little Bird.  It made me want to hear so many more deep tracks from the post SMiLE era, especially Dennis tracks.  Before Little Bird, David told a fun story of when he fell out of a tree and broke his arm.  Dennis wanted to know which tree he fell out of, and then proceeded to cut the tree down as if the tree hurt David!  Girl Don't Tell Me was another highlight, as was the Ol' Man River/Cottonfields medley.  I though Al's voice was great on some songs, but then he really didn't sound very good on California Saga.  Sail On Sailor, Marcella and Darlin' were killer all in a row.  Just a thought - I think the BB and Brian miss an opportunity to get more people into the more obscure material by not always telling the audience what year or album a song is from.  Marcella is a perfect example of a great track from an otherwise unknown album to a casual fan.  However, I was happy to hear Al introduce California Saga and Sail On Sailor as tracks from Holland - so sometimes they get it right.  Summers Gone was a very cool surprise encore - I was not expecting it.  Brian was pretty typical overall.  Some songs he was into, some he was off.  H&V got the first true standing ovation of the night which was a pleasant surprise.  All in all it was what I expected, C50 scaled back.  I would have LOVED to hear Breakaway, it's one of my favorite songs.  Oh well.

I dig what you're saying about the obscurer material, Ram4...conversely, I think some of the other tunes they should have some kind of intro -- particularly "Summertime Blues"...because in many of these venues you have people who go just to go and don't really care who the performer is. They may hear "Summertime Blues" and think "Well, they're doing that song because they're a summer band" as opposed to "Hey, that's a song they did on their first album, and they have the guy who sang lead on it!"

Then there was this at the concert:

David did introduce "Summertime Blues" as from the first album and mentioned that he and Carl played the guitars on the track...at least he did at Kettering.

David's guitar playing was probably the "lowlight" of the show for me. His solos didn't add to the songs or impress the crowd. Paul Von Mertins' sax playing, on the other hand, was out of this world.

This was posted on Dave Mark's Facebook page - finally, an audience vid of Little Bird. Very nice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=djurDWM9o8o#at=94 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=djurDWM9o8o#at=94)

Sometimes you just have to consider how lucky we are to hear some of these classics, nay underground classics live in a concert.

First off it seems like a bunch of us were at the show last night - pretty cool.  

I think David's guitar should have been louder in the mix, that might have gotten some more people into it.  I was right next to the board and overall the sound was good but could've used more lead guitar and bass.  David is not what I would call a great lead player, he's pretty sloppy and his timing isn't great, but he's a throwback as a player and does a very decent job.  Now maybe his guitar was louder elsewhere in the pavilion and it wasn't so great.  More than made up by him doing Little Bird!

Wow, Dave sounds a lot like Dennis when he sings that, it's a little eerie.  Pretty cool though.

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Here's Dave singing Forever with the Beach Boys a few years back...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsZ5NSatN8A

I was right in front of David in the second row and l think his playing was sharp. He gets these treble tones that are cool and he plays with attitude. Technical stuff doesn't matter as much as heart, and besides that Dave knows his music. Maybe I could just hear or see what he was doing better?

Since C50 he's been billed as a "surf guitar legend"... I was expecting a little more of his playing, to be honest.

Overall, I had a fantastic time at the concert. It was exactly what I expected, setlist and all, but I was finally able to unleash my Beach Boys fandom in public and sing falsetto along to Hawaii and the like.

Also, shout out to the guy who gave me a free home brew. That was nice. Sorry I called Gettin' In Over My Head a terrible album, by the way.

fantastic performance.

One thing I do notice about Brian performances live is the lack of organs which were so key to his later sound. I can hear the organ during the 'child is father of the man' part in Little Bird, but it should be more prominent as it has a filling quality to it. Ofc I may be mistaken given that it was recorded with amateur equipment.

Is one of the 2 blondes in front of the camera Melinda?

Looks very like her

You'd think she would most certainly have a better seat than that.

Not at Ravinia; they went straight into it with no intro.

Brian, Al and David flying by private jet to the next BAD show.

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Meanwhile, some where in the US, Mike and Bruce are riding a public bus to the next Beach Boys show.

What a small plane, almost looks smaller than the public bus!  :P

By the way, I was about five minutes away from the Ravinia today and am still kicking myself for not selling a kidney for a ticket. Oh well, hope some great video pops up soon.

I have been listening to the live album, and I would like to substantiate something the Professor said a while ago: "David marks IS the reunion." His playing is amazing; what someone called sloppy is the occasional moment when he invents, playfully, new note patterns and strums that are not on  the original records; that is, he improvises in concert and plays even some of the classic riffs that he and Carl composed and performed differently. I dismiss out of hand and absurd the critique of his play and timing. I will take his invention and improvisation over hired gun reproduction of written scores.
His singing, the occasion for my comments here, is the lone authentic source of homage to his friend Dennis. Dave has, in fact, a double burden, even in many ways greater though different from Brian's: Dave has to preserve Carl's and Dennis's art musically, vocally, spiritually, in his own playing, singing and writing.

Getcha Back is a good song that has now become great in performance; it's one of the top highlights of the live album.

The Professor also wants to note that he thinks a certain critical emotional mass is forming and that a reunion of sorts, either shows or being together on an album, will happen--just a hunch.

Pretty sure that's heartburn.

Nice comments about Mr. Marks, I can't wait to see them do Little Bird!

OP, did you get tickets for the greek? I never followed it though; did you have to buy a subscription to a certain # of shows? Has anyone else in the LA branch of SSMB got tickets?

I'l tell the professor to take a bicarbonate of soda.

I delayed a bit, but then bought the best seats I could! I can't wait! The reports are driving me mad with jealousy and I'm wondering why I didn't pretend to be visiting NJ family to go to a show or two out east.

I'm sure they will announce more fall dates shortly, they'll want to do the new material more than just once at the Greek... which really sounds like it's going to be something special.

Very nice performance from David.  And what the professor says is true, in many ways he is carrying the torch for both Dennis and Carl. He was very close to both of them, and I think he sort of wanted to be Dennis when he was young. I imagine a lot of guys wanted to be cool like that.

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Ooo, that's a good idea. Probyn and Mertens blowing woozy, Dramamine notes.

You`re reading too much into it.  ;D

I'm forming a PAC to ram this suggestion through.

We sure did! ;D

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The face of kokomo itself...

I was kinda nervous about Brian's health from a few of the photos I've seen this year, but I gotta say he looks happy and healthy in this one.

You refer to yourself in the third person, and you expect a respectful answer as well as credibility?  ::)  Only on the internet.

Miss Amanda Jones stated that "David's guitar playing was probably the "lowlight" of the show for me. His solos didn't add to the songs or impress the crowd.."  However, you chose to refer to my comments, and you made a mistake.  I was the one who said his playing was sloppy and his timing isn't the greatest - both of which are 100% true.  I also said he did a very decent job and I wished he was louder in the mix so I could hear him better.  Why?  Because he of what I also said - he's a throwback, and to further elaborate - he's genuine, he's the real thing, WHICH I PREFER.  I also pointed out that Little Bird was my favorite moment of the show by far.  I also thoroughly enjoyed David on C50, love his use of a Fender Jaguar and Fender amps with good ol' spring reverb.  It is normal to critique your heroes - it's honest.  Jimmy Page was my guitar idol when I was a teen.  That didn't stop me from ripping on him all the time.  He was also sloppy, but I loved him as a player.

Next time how about actually reading a complete post before thinking of what "The Professor" ::) is going to say?  

He looks great. It's kind of a relief

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

So he has to preserve Carl and Denny's  art musically, vocally, etc more than Carl and Denny's own brother? I'm not so sure I agree with that.

And while Dave is a good guitar player and  probably a super nice guy, from what I've heard, his solo albums are kinda poorly produced adult contemporary "blues" somewhat like Eric Clapton sometimes does. I think it's a great story that Dave got to come back to The Beach Boys and soak up the love from the fans, I still think the album and tour would've been pretty amazing. And all the same with Brian's new album, I really don't care that he's on it, especially since it's unlikely we'll be able to tell what part he's playing anyways. Al on the other hand, I hope he's on every song, HE will make a difference.

You do realize that you just sh*t on a bunch of music you've never actually listened to, right?

But I have listened to it. And it by and large sucks. Why would you think I haven't heard it? I wrote "from what I've heard".

So, when did you hear Brian's new album? That is what Marcella... was talking about.

Oh, my b. Thought he was talking about Dave's solo stuff. I just figure that if Dave is on Brian's album, it'll most likely just be on guitar, and will be as hard to detect as it was on TWGMTR. I don't understand how that's shitting on Brian's new album though. Cuz I'm actually pretty excited about it.

Dave: "Are we there yet?"

Melinda: "NO!"

Brian: "I want a steak"

tusrdu, who got some pretty good footage during the C50 has done it again with the BAD tour.

Ohio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AgaFFJWVOc

Nope. I was talking about Dave's solo stuff. Sorry sweetdudejim, I took "from what I've heard" and assumed (I don't know why) that you had meant "from what I've been told" instead of "from what I've listened to."

Internets, eh? Crazy place. Sorry again

Totally cool. That's problem with the damn internet. Can never tell exactly what people mean.

I was at the MN show on Saturday. I hope this is ok to post thoughts here? Well I'll do it anyway.
Setlist: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/brian-wilson/2013/weesner-amphitheater-apple-valley-mn-13c6fd25.html

General notes:
Brian was really engaged, smiled a lot, and sang well.
Al sounded great. His voice has held up well.
David was awesome. Great guitar player!
Band was pretty tight overall. Set 1 really kicked ass. Set 2 and encores were also good, but not as smoking as Set 1.

If anyone has any specific questions about the show, I can try and answer them.

I was trying to follow along, but something got lost in translation. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFE0-d1Uc2g

Not my recording, but still like to share this with everyone :)

A few minutes ago on Facebook:

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Brian at it again: recording in Chicago this afternoon.

I love they are doing thus but Jeff is to high in the mix.

Is Brian coloring his hair?

Wow, that sounds incredible. 

I love the piano riffing on "Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" and "Swanee River" (or "South Bay Surfer"  :lol) at the beginning.  That's Brian playing?

it's Darian. and it's played pretty much note-for-note off the twofer version... Old Folks At Home (aka Swanee River)/Old Man River

He's not, but I'd get unduly excited if he were.

Yikes that is my least favorite Brian picture ever lol.

Probably it's only me, but I think there's a glance in his eyes reminding me of his mid-60s photos. (Mid-1960s, I mean  ;D)

Ah okay, I've never heard that version.  I've only heard the one from the Hawthorne, CA album which is beautiful.

never heard it? it's one of the greatest pieces of music made ever if you ask me. why is it not on youtube?!?

Very creepy picture

Does anyone know if they have added any songs since Chicago?

Don't know, but I'm sure glad that I got Break Away instead of Little Deuce Coupe at the Atlantic City show. :)

Apart from adding Hawaii and Little Deuce Coupe after the first show I don`t think they added any new songs throughout.

Jeezus..the tour is already over? Man that went by so fast!

It was barely over a week long, six shows. Al has alluded to more dates being announced, presumably nearer the October LA date.

SET END DATE!!!! Sjdikckrhfjdoeh

Since I'll *hopefully* be catching the DC show this fall, I took a closer look at the setlist to see just what exactly I'll be seeing (although I'm sure Brian's set will be shorter since Jeff Beck is doing his own thing too)

Why are these guys playing so much early stuff that Mike sang lead on and M&B band carry quite well already? I think of this band as the band that has the oppourtunity to play the deep stuff and really flesh out the 66-73 period...

I counted 12 songs out of the 37 in the set that are lead by Mike on the original recordings. Look at the encore for instance...

All Summer Long
Help Me Rhonda
Barbara Ann
Surfin' USA
Fun, Fun, Fun

...what about that screams Brian Wilson? It reads like a Mike and Bruce set.

Don't get me wrong though, there are some GREAT tracks slipped in that M&B don't touch often...Please Let Me Wonder, Girl Don't Tell Me, Pet Sounds, Our Prayer/Heroes and Villains...SUMMER'S GONE!

anyone else feel this way?

Well, I mean Brian wrote most of those songs, they're his songs, except Barbara Ann.

They are Brian's songs no matter who sang them originally. Brian has played the last 4 songs that you post, every time that I have seen him since 1999. Except for Barbara Ann, they're his songs, he can sing whatever he wants. :)

Yeah, since 1986.

Well, probably because the majority of the crowd comes to see three of the original Beach Boys and want to hear the songs that made them famous....it's not rocket science, really. You figure there are more die-hards at a BW/BAD show than at a M&B, but still, I'd imagine most people are just casual fans who want a good night out.

I get the whole "casual fan" thing and sure they're in part his songs as well. But his voice is just so different...it's like hearing a different song. "All Summer Long" does not sound like "All Summer Long" when Brian sings it. Again, just my opinion...and saying he can play them "because he can" doesn't take the discussion anywhere... ::)

There are encore worthy songs already in his setlist, so I would think he could put deeper tracks in the main set, and shift some Pet Sounds material and Smile type stuff to the encore. Just my thoughts again...

I dunno if this is normal Foskett behavior but he was really obnoxious at our show. He would drink bottles of water and toss them behind the stage where the roadies/techs were. He must have used freaking twelve different guitars, none of which were audible (it became funny when he was pretending to play along to "Pet Sounds"). He did this stupid shuffle/dance across the stage several times throughout the show and only stopped when finally the drummer laughed at attempt #5. I'm sorry, I went in open-minded but he really cemented my opinion on him.

He had a fit at the soundcheck at Merriweather last year over the changed lyrics on Isn't it Time...I couldn't hear understand what he was saying since he stepped away from the mic but he was getting red and seemed to be just short of screaming at Totten over the new sheet given to him and Brian. I can't say I'm a big fan...

He has an arrogance and smugness that is pretty easy to pick up on.

Not an easily likable person

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_JXQLPS14

 ;D

Jeff was fine in that video. You can tell right off that he knew the girl video taping and was teasing her. I never found him arrogant, but at shows he can either be super-friendly or standoff-ish depending on his mood.

He drank water and played guitar!! Satan. He'll be singing next.   >:D

Jeff was irritating, like usual.

But man, I hope that video wasn't recorded in 2012 considering Brian was under the impression That Lucky Old Sun hadn't been released yet  :lol

So what? I don't see any problem there. I don't think he was playing a bunch of guitars and they weren't turned up. Probably blended in the mix.

Maybe you'd rather see Stamos up there instead?

No, he wasn't.  Do you know the difference between being irritating and arrogance and joking around, Shady?  Doubt it.

How about he just uses one guitar that isn't plugged in? And yes I was near the front and none of what he was playing could be heard. I legitimately heard Brian's piano and Al's guitar more times than I heard ol' Fosky's guitar. At times he was even pretending to strum along to parts he didn't know! Seriously! And throwing your water bottles at techs (not exaggerating) is pretty dickish behavior that only THE GREAT BRIAN WILSON could get away with.

Agreed.

I have always liked Jeff, his vocals, his banter, his falsetto, and his own work, so obviously I have nothing against him.

So why all the hate for Jeff?
Besides the things already discussed, what's has he done in the past as touring with brian and/or the beach boys?

Now that the Mike threads have calmed a bit, is Jeff now the new Mike?

Always found him friendly and willing to help out. This is based on actually interacting and talking to him and having him at a few functions (not just sitting in the audience at a show ).

Not surprised he'd have the odd bad day if this is any indication of what he must put up with from some fans, especially when looking out for Brian.

There's no hate. It's just Shady riding on someone else's opinion again without knowing what (or who) he's talking about.

There is always a Mike to attack, otherwise we'll have to talk to each other  ::)

Although I'm not at all into his voice, the one time I talked to Jeff he happily hung out with me and my friend and asked us what our favorite songs were and was a very nice guy. He must have hung out for ten minutes, and this was in a restaurant after a show, so he had no obligation to us in any way.
Anyway, my two cents=nice guy!

I agree. They could restructure the setlist to make it suit Brian`s current voice a lot more.

I've never liked him but I'm sure if I met him I'd take back all the nasty things I've said about his bad falsetto and unplugged guitars.
Good thing I'll never meet him!  :hat

for him.

Just 2 personal experiences

March 6th 2004: On the day of BW's concert in Newcastle (BWPS), a good friend of mine (of Pet Sounds record shop fame) organised a SMiLE party. Lot's of fans attended the party, as well as a few members of the band, including Jeff. I had the change to throw in a new disc in the CD-player, found a SMiLE boot and pressed play, within the minute Jeff was at the counter asking which session track that was. He was genuinly interested in SMiLE stuff at the time. Cool to see.

Sept. 11th 2011: I had already been able to meet and greet Brian and Jeff prior to the the Gateshead gig, one day earlier. Nervous as heck, finally shaking BW's hand for the first time. This second meeting was more relaxed. Got my vinyl copy of TLOS signed, was able to chat a bit with Jeff and got my copy of his Thru My Window CD signed by him as well. I then asked the bold thing if Brian would like to sign an extra item - not for me, but for a friend of mine who wasn't able to take the long trip from Holland to Scotland - and he just said sure, just do it. When I later gave a signed copy of the Caroline No 45 to my friend he was really moved by it (as was I).

Just a few tiny examples perhaps, and nothing earthshaking, but nonetheless for me just positive experiences with Jeff, and convincing enough for me to say that he is a nice guy.

I'm awesome. Look at those sunglasses.

Thanks for trying to focus the thread back on topic...

Okay back to the thread topic... BAD was a GREAT show and I wish I could see them again.

I'll be at the Oakland show in October. I will especially be on the lookout for Jeff's "unplugged" guitars. I'd like to know who would be at all these signings and meet & greets and backstage meetings with Brian if Jeff weren't around. Melinda? Jean Sievers? Darian? Maybe a few, but doubtfully not all. No-brainer - Jeff has helped Brian immensely since 1976. If anything, he's taken a back seat to Al and Dave's guitar playing and just blending in the mix. And I'm sure now that with Jeff Beck's guitar in the fray, that Foskett may be happy standing in the shadows doing vocals for the time being.