The Alan Boyd Thread

[Alan Boyd]

By the way, Cheryl Pawelski came back to help us with this massive EMI vault search we mounted a few years back, a sort of quest to find all of the first-generation masters (especially the singles).  She was amazing, incredibly helpful, and very devoted to the music and history there on all those reels of tape.  EMI's loss, Rhino's gain. 

[c-man]

Alan - on page 11 of "TWOTS" booklet...where did the cool picture of Carl playing the bass guitar come from?  I've seen that model or brand before, but can't quite put my finger on it...Gibson? Alembic? or something else?

Thanks

[smile-holland]

Great to see you back, mr. Boyd!

[Alan Boyd]

Hey C-Man,

Not sure about the bass guitar itself - but that shot of Carl was taken in Al's barn during the KTSA sessions.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Alan - on page 11 of "TWOTS" booklet...where did the cool picture of Carl playing the bass guitar come from?  I've seen that model or brand before, but can't quite put my finger on it...Gibson? Alembic? or something else?

Thanks

Huh ? Page 11 of my booklet is just track info.

[petsite]

Not sure about the bass guitar itself - but that shot of Carl was taken in Al's barn during the KTSA sessions.

I like the Alan Jardine and Mike photos from KTSA as well. I was hoping for a Brian photo then remembering how he looked during that time, it was probably best not to include it. The shot with Brian holding a photo of the rest of the group (from 1966) is being offered as a lithograph from Rhino if you order TWOTS from them.

Tempted........................................................then I will have 3 copies...................................Tempted...........................

Bob

[c-man]

Alan - on page 11 of "TWOTS" booklet...where did the cool picture of Carl playing the bass guitar come from?  I've seen that model or brand before, but can't quite put my finger on it...Gibson? Alembic? or something else?

Thanks

Huh ? Page 11 of my booklet is just track info.

Page 11, the one on the right side of the booklet's center spread, opposite the info for the tracks starting with "Friends".  Maybe the UK version is different?

[Ian]

Alan, I was wondering about two things.  1) Do you have exact info on where and when all the songs on the Beach Boys 73 concert album were recorded? I know some came from a Carnegie Hall show.  2) I have found proof that the BBs a) Did not record Be Still on April 13 1968 or B) Child of Winter on Nov 18 1974.  They were playing gigs on the east coast on both days. Do you have the actual dates of these sessions?  Details- Although Badman recorded the Tampa and Sarasota gigs on Apr 13 1968 as canceled, they were not- I have a review of the Sarasota show- so Dennis clearly did not make a quick trip back to Cali for a session that day . On Nov 18 1974 the BBs were on tour and played a show in Syracuse, NY. Since they played the night before and the day after as well, it is  obvious that Child of Winter was not recorded that day, unless it was just Brian recording his parts that day
Ian

[XY]

And do check out Jasper's "Airplane Song" video on YouTube.    He did a great job with that one - it's really good.

Oh, thank you, Alan!
I apologize once again for my thoughtless comment and the trouble it caused.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Alan - on page 11 of "TWOTS" booklet...where did the cool picture of Carl playing the bass guitar come from?  I've seen that model or brand before, but can't quite put my finger on it...Gibson? Alembic? or something else?

Thanks

Huh ? Page 11 of my booklet is just track info.

Page 11, the one on the right side of the booklet's center spread, opposite the info for the tracks starting with "Friends".  Maybe the UK version is different?

Must be - this is the UK booklet:

p2-3 - Pet Sounds promo shot (Brian w/mirror)
p4 - TV studio shot w/striped shirts circa 1964/5
p 7 - band inside circular entrance of building
p 8 - Pet Sounds promo film shoot photo (Brian & Alan)
p 13 - Hollywood Bowl shot (circa 1963)
p 15 - walking down steps, circa 1964
back cover - Hawaii 1967 rehearsals, gathered around Brian's Baldwin.

[c-man]

Here's what's in the US booklet:

p2-3 - Pet Sounds promo shot (Brian w/mirror) - if you mean the one where Brian's holding a picture mirror of the other five guys
p4 - three shots:  Dennis w/shades & movie camera pointing toward Brian (SMiLE era) in color,
Alan relaxing with hands behind head (B&W) and a B&W shot of Brian & Mike at the Party! session
p 7 - band inside circular entrance of building
p 8 - three shots: a B&W of Brian w/bass guitar looking at the back of the "Surfer Girl" album cover, surrounded by fans; a color shot of Dennis playing keyboards onstage circa '72 or '73; Mike at a KTSA vocal session
p 11 - four shots: a B&W of Bruce in the studio control room (probably Party! or Pet Sounds sessions); a B&W of Mike writing down some lyrics in the contol room (Party! session); a color shot of Alan at a KTSA vocal session; and a color shot of Carl playing a bass guitar at a KTSA session
p 12 - Pet Sounds promo film shoot photo (Brian & Alan)
p 14-15 - various shots:  the touring group with flowers circa 1969, Dennis playing the drums onstage circa 1980 (both in color), and B&Ws of Brian sitting down on the drum riser playing bass guitar w/a parka on while Dennis, in a suit, looks at him while drumming; the group in striped shirts, '64, playing in a TV studio on individual risers (this is probably the "TV studio shot w/striped shirts circa 1964/5" appearing in the UK booklet); Brian at the piano, showing vocal parts to Bruce and Alan (Pet Sounds era), and a shot of Carl from around the same time
p 16 - Hollywood Bowl shot (circa 1963)
p 19 - walking down steps, circa 1964
back cover - Hawaii 1967 rehearsals, gathered around Brian's Baldwin.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Gee, thanks EMI. Love you too.

[Sheriff John Stone]

I understand that 25, 30, 40 years ago, The Beach Boys had different songs and albums that did better in one country than others, including the UK. But why I ask, in 2007, DECADES AFTER THAT FACT, are there different booklets for different countries? Is it really that necessary?

[c-man]

Gee, thanks EMI. Love you too.

Ah, but perhaps you Brits got more track info (recording dates, engineer credits, or what have you)...maybe you could give us an example of one of the entries, Andrew? 

[Andrew G. Doe]

OK, to pick one at random...

18. Why Do Fools Fall In Love 2:08
[original 1964 mono single mix] (Frankie Lymon-Morris Levy)
Produced by Brian Wilson
Lead vocal: Brian
Single released: Capitol #5118 [B side to Fun, Fun, Fun] (2/1/64)
Highest Billboard Pop Chart position: #120 (debut 2/15/64)
From Capitol Records album #T-2027 SHUT DOWN, VOL 2 (released 3/23/64)

[c-man]

OK, to pick one at random...

18. Why Do Fools Fall In Love 2:08
[original 1964 mono single mix] (Frankie Lymon-Morris Levy)
Produced by Brian Wilson
Lead vocal: Brian
Single released: Capitol #5118 [B side to Fun, Fun, Fun] (2/1/64)
Highest Billboard Pop Chart position: #120 (debut 2/15/64)
From Capitol Records album #T-2027 SHUT DOWN, VOL 2 (released 3/23/64)

Nope, same track info.  Sorry, old chap!   
Well, maybe your photos are bigger, since there's fewer of 'em!

[Ian]

For those interested- the shot of Brian with the Surfer Girl album surrounded by fans was taken by Don Paulson backstage at the New York Academy of Music on Feb 13 1965 for a Hit Parader article

[Susan]

The shot with Brian holding a photo of the rest of the group (from 1966) is being offered as a lithograph from Rhino if you order TWOTS from them.

Seriously?  I couldn't find anything over there.  Got a link?

[kagentry]

I found it here:

http://www.rhinorecords.cc/music-current.php

[Susan]

Outstanding - thanks!

[Robbo]

Hello Alan,

I was wondering if you could tell me what' tracks are on the Bob Norberg tape from 1963?
Thanks for your time, and keep up the good work.

[Jonas]

I feel like I should speak up a little bit. I started a thread about bootlegs before the new rules were made. And I agree that it is much better if bootlegs are not discussed in the open.

The bottom line is, out of respect, everyone should adhere to these new rules and try to appreciate our guests here as much as we can.

I'm not aware that these rules are "new" they've been around and enforced for a long time now. We've already removed a couple of your posts.

[Steve]

Alan--
First off, thanks for helping to make Endless Harmony and Hawthorne Blvd truly essential pieces in The Catalog.  Some of my favorite tracks reside there and I know I'm not alone.

I was wondering, what are the odds of some more of the Adult Child/"New Album" tracks seeing a legit release?  Still I Dream of It and It's Over Now Are KILLER!

For those keeping track, those remaining would be:
Marilyn Rovell
You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
Sherry She Needs Me
Mony Mony
On Broadway
Life Is For The Living
Deep Purple
Everybody Wants To Live
Lines
It's Trying To Say


Add to that list the following unreleased '76-77 songs from AGD's page and it gets more interesting!
Clangin' (B. Wilson) - summer 1976
Gimme Some Lovin' (Davis) - early 1977
Gold Rush (Jardine) - 1/30-5/15/76
Hey There Moma (B. Wilson) - fall 1976
I'm Begging You Please (B. Wilson) - 10/6/78 & summer 1978
Lazy Lizzie (B. Wilson) - fall 1976
Let's Dance (Montez - Lee) - 4/27/76
Runnin' Bear (Preston - Richardson) - 4/14/76
Secret Love (Fain - Webster) - 1/30-5/15/76
Shake, Rattle & Roll (Calhoun) - 4/14//76
Short Skirts (B. Wilson) -1/30-5/15/76
10,000 Years Ago (Love) 1/30-5/15/76
That Special Feeling (B. Wilson) - fall 1976
We Gotta Groove (B. Wilson) - fall 1976
Workin' In A Coal Mine (Dorsey - Toussaint) - 1/30-5/15/76


Do we have to storm the Capitol or what?

[49ersphil]

If I can field this one for Alan, "Seasons" was tracked on the cusp of the Sunflower and Surf's Up Sessions in 1970.  (If Badman is to be believed anyway.)  Mike is quoted in that book as not liking it because he is not pleased with Carl's vocal and that the song is (paraphrased) "too wimpy for the Beach Boys" (!!!)

Here's a partial list of stuff the band cut in 1974.  Maybe Alan could elaborate on some of the mystery titles:

Share Your Love (Ricky Faatar track)
Shortenin' Bread
Clangin' (is this the same things as "Ding Dang"?)
Marcella (remake by Brian)
"Guitar demo" (Carl)
"Carl's Moog Riff" (Carl and Ricky)
Good Timin'
"Jam" (with Ricky Faatar)
Ding Dang
Is It Really Love? (not sure if this is the Beach Boys)
Birthday Greeting for Roger McGuinn
Foolin' (Ricky Faatar)
"Drum Song" (Ricky again)
"Carl demo"
Battle Hymn of the Republic
Hard Times aka Ding Dang (obviously not the earlier Blondie Chaplin song titled "Hard Times")
Our Life Our Love Our Land??
Don't Let Me Go??
Battle Hymn of the Republic (alternate take)
Child of Winter
Here Comes Santa Claus
It's OK
California Feeling (probably just a demo)
The River aka River Song (Dennis)
Honeycomb (Brian)
Take Me Out to the Ballgame (Dennis)
Baseball (Dennis - not the same song as "It's Trying to Say")
String Bass Song (early version of "Rainbows" according to AB)
Dennis Symphony
Rollin' Up to Heaven

Has anybody any info on the "Honeycomb" track mentioned here?
I believe that Roy Wood and Wizzard played on this track but I've never seen it on any release or bootleg.

Thanks in advance.

[MBE]

Brian played it to reporter  David Felton in 1976. He described it as fairly good but I know nothing else about it.