Al joining Mike and Bruce for Jones Beach show

[The Shift]

Man no one to sing Carl's part on Kokomo! Guess they're gonna have to cut that from the set

… unless Jeff Foskett also puts in an appearance    

I nominate this for "Most Hilarious Foreshadowing of the Month".

I cheated – I took my last holiday in June 2017 and read about it on this board while I was there!  

You should see the SMiLE 50th anniversary box! I got the $45,750 version which comes with a woodie signed by all the Beach Boys current line-up, including Mike, Bruce, Al, Jeff, Stamos, Christian, Wendy and Carnie, Robin Pecknold, Dean, Scott, as well as Darian, Scotty and Shane (who were here in 2014 recently from 2017, visiting Brian for advice on vocal arrangements for SMiLE II  – you might have seen a picture)…  Unfortunately I couldn't bring the box (because it's download-only and therefore ethereal) or the woodie (which has been converted to run on fusion energy since the fossil fuels ran out) back to 2014.

[buddhahat]

I really hate that beach boys logo. the one on the GV box was far better...
had the beach boys made a good dancing album in late 70's glitzy style then that style would be fine I guess, but it's hardly hinted at on 15BO and doesn't really represent the 'sound' of the group except  Here Comes The Night (1979)

It's like they want a definitive typeface like the Beatles have, only this is The Beach Boys and they somehow make everything they do laughable. It's not even from an era when these guys made any hits...yet it now represents their image on CDs, concert posters, t-shirts, etc. Oy vey.

I think that's a pretty groovy typeface. I prefer it to the Beatles one, actually.

[The Shift]

I really hate that beach boys logo. the one on the GV box was far better...
had the beach boys made a good dancing album in late 70's glitzy style then that style would be fine I guess, but it's hardly hinted at on 15BO and doesn't really represent the 'sound' of the group except  Here Comes The Night (1979)

It's like they want a definitive typeface like the Beatles have, only this is The Beach Boys and they somehow make everything they do laughable. It's not even from an era when these guys made any hits...yet it now represents their image on CDs, concert posters, t-shirts, etc. Oy vey.

I think that's a pretty groovy typeface. I prefer it to the Beatles one, actually.

I don't mind the 15BO logo these days… I've grown accustomed.

But if given a choice would prefer this style of typeface treatment:



or, even better, this:

[Niko]

This one's my favorite

[Alan Smith]

What's the grit rating for this CD cover - P12?

[The Shift]

What's the grit rating for this CD cover - P12?

Are you decorating?

[Smilin Ed H]

What's the grit rating for this CD cover - P12?

I like this one - class and style. The other looks like it should say, "The Flintstones!"

[Cyncie]

I'm actually encouraged by the fact that Al and David are floating between Brian in the studio and Mike on tour. Sounds like the "camps" aren't as entrenched in Beach Boys land as they are in Beach Boys Fandom.

[donald]

Comment re the BB coca cola logo;  didn't they start using that around the time they were hanging with Chicago who have a very similar looking logo?

[drbeachboy]

Comment re the BB coca cola logo;  didn't they start using that around the time they were hanging with Chicago who have a very similar looking logo?

You're not too far off. If I can recall correctly, I think I started seeing it around 1971 or 1972.

[Jim V.]

Comment re the BB coca cola logo;  didn't they start using that around the time they were hanging with Chicago who have a very similar looking logo?

You're not too far off. If I can recall correctly, I think I started seeing it around 1971 or 1972.

Both logos by Dean Torrence (of Jan & Dean for those who don't know). So that could be a reason for the similarity.

[Alan Smith]

What's the grit rating for this CD cover - P12?

Are you decorating?

Sort of.  Kicked off about 4 years ago but not sure where I'm up to, or if anything's been achieved.

Once when buying sandpaper, the shop guy said what grit rating - I says "Wha?" and he showed me many types, one that looked just like the above CD cover background.

I'm a bit like this, but (obviously) 1000 times less amusing than these chaps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YmHtISRcz0

Back on subtopic, the Ten Years Logo / typeface is a personal favourite - Caribou certainly had a sharp art department/contractor.  It must taken ages to write all those lyrics out in that style, and not one ink smudge in sight.

Back on topic - hopefully, once things settle, they'll consider an Australian run (yeah, right!).  I hope those who go have a great time - as per Dr Lenny's sentiments on page 5, it's a bit of a treat, so take advantage of it if you can.

[metal flake paint]

What's the grit rating for this CD cover - P12?

Are you decorating?

Sort of.  Kicked off about 4 years ago but not sure where I'm up to, or if anything's been achieved.

Once when buying sandpaper, the shop guy said what grit rating - I says "Wha?" and he showed me many types, one that looked just like the above CD cover background.

I'm a bit like this, but (obviously) 1000 times less amusing than these chaps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YmHtISRcz0

Back on subtopic, the Ten Years Logo / typeface is a personal favourite - Caribou certainly had a sharp art department/contractor.  It must taken ages to write all those lyrics out in that style, and not one ink smudge in sight.

Interesting to note in the album design section of my CD booklet (gritless, white version) that both the lettering of The Beach Boys logo and that of album title were created by two different people.

[Rocky Raccoon]

I've always really liked the logo.  It's distinctive and memorable, it's also fun to doodle on notepads.  But it does admittedly remind me more of the 15 Big Ones era Beach Boys rather than the band in their heyday.  I don't think it would have looked appropriate on their early albums.  But then again, the Rolling Stones lips and tongue logo would look out of place on their early ABKCO albums as well and I think that image is iconic.

I like this one they used for the 1993 box set too.

[ToneBender631]

Getting a bit back on topic, despite adding Al and David, w/ two other legacy bands on the bill and with the upper section closed, they've barely sold 20% of the tickets for the show thus far. I've also heard commercials for the gig on local radio...Clearly, if they want to graduate up to the bigger venues again they need the big guy on board! 

[HeyJude]

Getting a bit back on topic, despite adding Al and David, w/ two other legacy bands on the bill and with the upper section closed, they've barely sold 20% of the tickets for the show thus far. I've also heard commercials for the gig on local radio...Clearly, if they want to graduate up to the bigger venues again they need the big guy on board! 

Does the venue or promoter actually release sales numbers? I’m curious how we know they’ve only sold 20%. In any event, if this is in fact the case, it presents a couple of theories (very much just theories): Did Mike add Al and David to the show because sales were sagging? I’m not even sure of the timeline in terms of when tickets went on sale, so I don’t know if this is an actual possibility. Also, if publicizing (to some degree; I don’t know if Al or Mike have even announced this on their facebook, etc.) Al and Dave being added has not helped ticket sales, I do wonder if that would reinforce the idea to Mike that there’s little or no economic benefit to adding those guys to the band.

[ToneBender631]

Getting a bit back on topic, despite adding Al and David, w/ two other legacy bands on the bill and with the upper section closed, they've barely sold 20% of the tickets for the show thus far. I've also heard commercials for the gig on local radio...Clearly, if they want to graduate up to the bigger venues again they need the big guy on board!  

Does the venue or promoter actually release sales numbers? I’m curious how we know they’ve only sold 20%. In any event, if this is in fact the case, it presents a couple of theories (very much just theories): Did Mike add Al and David to the show because sales were sagging? I’m not even sure of the timeline in terms of when tickets went on sale, so I don’t know if this is an actual possibility. Also, if publicizing (to some degree; I don’t know if Al or Mike have even announced this on their facebook, etc.) Al and Dave being added has not helped ticket sales, I do wonder if that would reinforce the idea to Mike that there’s little or no economic benefit to adding those guys to the band.

If you go on the Live Nation website, you can "pick your own seat" and get a sense of how undersold it really is thus far.  As far as the advertising, my first email about the show happening had Al listed, but not David. The radio ad I heard didn't mention either of them.

[MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm]

One of my hesitations with the Jones Beach show is that there are two other bands on the bill, but the show has a normal (7:30) start time and shows there typically end no later than 10:30/11. I realize we are a bit spoiled here, but Jones Beach is kind of a trek to make from NYC if the BBs set is not a full set.

[ToneBender631]

One of my hesitations with the Jones Beach show is that there are two other bands on the bill, but the show has a normal (7:30) start time and shows there typically end no later than 10:30/11. I realize we are a bit spoiled here, but Jones Beach is kind of a trek to make from NYC if the BBs set is not a full set.

My guess for set times:

7:30 - 8:00
8:15 - 9:00
9:15 - 11:00

[Nicko1234]

One of my hesitations with the Jones Beach show is that there are two other bands on the bill, but the show has a normal (7:30) start time and shows there typically end no later than 10:30/11. I realize we are a bit spoiled here, but Jones Beach is kind of a trek to make from NYC if the BBs set is not a full set.

How many more chances are you going to get to see 4 of The Beach Boys on the same stage?

[Cabinessenceking]

I've always really liked the logo.  It's distinctive and memorable, it's also fun to doodle on notepads.  But it does admittedly remind me more of the 15 Big Ones era Beach Boys rather than the band in their heyday.  I don't think it would have looked appropriate on their early albums.  But then again, the Rolling Stones lips and tongue logo would look out of place on their early ABKCO albums as well and I think that image is iconic.

I like this one they used for the 1993 box set too.

one of the better ones they did.

I wouldn't mind 15BO logo on a slick sounding album like LA Light where it fit into the 'disco/adult contemporary style' they were going for. 15BO is just not slick enough to have such a logo.

[Wah Wah Wah Ooooo]

Comment re the BB coca cola logo;  didn't they start using that around the time they were hanging with Chicago who have a very similar looking logo?

You're not too far off. If I can recall correctly, I think I started seeing it around 1971 or 1972.

Both logos by Dean Torrence (of Jan & Dean for those who don't know). So that could be a reason for the similarity.

Dean Torrence didn't design the Chicago logo. John Berg did.

[MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm]

One of my hesitations with the Jones Beach show is that there are two other bands on the bill, but the show has a normal (7:30) start time and shows there typically end no later than 10:30/11. I realize we are a bit spoiled here, but Jones Beach is kind of a trek to make from NYC if the BBs set is not a full set.

My guess for set times:

7:30 - 8:00
8:15 - 9:00
9:15 - 11:00

Sure, I'd be pretty happy with those times! Based on past multi-group shows I've seen at Jones Beach, I was guessing more like 7:30-8:15, 8:35-9:25, 9:40-10:50 or so.

[MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm]

One of my hesitations with the Jones Beach show is that there are two other bands on the bill, but the show has a normal (7:30) start time and shows there typically end no later than 10:30/11. I realize we are a bit spoiled here, but Jones Beach is kind of a trek to make from NYC if the BBs set is not a full set.

How many more chances are you going to get to see 4 of The Beach Boys on the same stage?

It's a good question and more than fair. I love these guys and if the show were in Manhattan it would be a no-brainer. As it is, Jones Beach is about a 2-hour trek for me each way (subway > two LIRR trains > spotty local bus service), thus the overall time commitment is a bit more to juggle. Believe me, would love to be there and will if I can.

[Jim V.]

Comment re the BB coca cola logo;  didn't they start using that around the time they were hanging with Chicago who have a very similar looking logo?

You're not too far off. If I can recall correctly, I think I started seeing it around 1971 or 1972.

Both logos by Dean Torrence (of Jan & Dean for those who don't know). So that could be a reason for the similarity.

Dean Torrence didn't design the Chicago logo. John Berg did.

Well, Dean came up with the idea of the logo being like the Coca-Cola logo. So....yeah, he started it. And therefore, my point still stands that there's a reason for the similarities of The Beach Boys' and Chicago's logos.

And here's a link for info about Chicago's logo.