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« on: June 13, 2023, 07:18:13 PM »

From Dae Lims, a finished Old Man River and a wonderful Bacharach medley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alarQ8TI8zw
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2023, 07:44:13 AM »


Far beyond incredible!! Thanks for posting!!    Pirate Rock! High Five Love Happy Dance Kiss w00t! w00t! w00t!
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2023, 08:12:31 AM »

Really, really nice! Thanks for posting!

This reminds me too that Brian (and Al etc) added Old Man River to their live show for a random year or so. I had forgotten all about that.

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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2023, 12:43:35 PM »

Snagged 'em, Joel--thanks so much for bringing these to our attention.  King

Will be keeping an eye on Dae Lims for possible future developments...
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2023, 03:44:28 PM »

LOL that's pretty good, though I can't help but wonder if the first one sounds just a wee bit too polished?

Who would that be singing in the 2nd one - Carl?
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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2023, 06:59:27 AM »

A new Dae Lims video, it really IMO captures Brian's early voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7cDB80jkSM
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2023, 06:12:29 AM »

That guy is mad talented.  Pretty sure he used to go by the name "Smile A.D." which is "Dae Lims" spelled backwards.   Smiley
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« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2023, 10:37:41 AM »

The latest...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcg5FoQOTzY
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« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2023, 02:54:06 PM »


That ones off the mark. Those Hawaii '67 recordings are laid back and trippy and that AI vocal interpretation just sounds too studio driven. Totally missing 'the vibe'.
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2023, 06:12:26 PM »

Can't wait for some talented fellow to give us some completed Smile tracks with this technology.
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« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2023, 12:59:22 PM »

For your consideration...Dae Lims' Smile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7W_2JS12CY
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2023, 01:20:18 PM »

I don't really get the ethos of sharing this stuff exclusively via youtube, which puts a hard ceiling on the audio quality/bitrate and also basically guarantees that interested copyrightholders will see it and have absolutely no trouble getting it removed.  The point of flying under the radar is you get to keep flying that way.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2023, 01:59:54 PM »

For your consideration...Dae Lims' Smile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7W_2JS12CY


Thanks for the link, Joel! There's a lot of great stuff in this version (I hesitate to use the word "mix") of Smile. If I was one to still make Smile fan edits I'd definitely be copping some of this marvelous stuff.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2023, 06:56:45 AM »

I don't really get the ethos of sharing this stuff exclusively via youtube, which puts a hard ceiling on the audio quality/bitrate and also basically guarantees that interested copyrightholders will see it and have absolutely no trouble getting it removed.  The point of flying under the radar is you get to keep flying that way.

I think it depends on what the person posting it wants to get out of it. If they want the widest audience possible, and/or get off on the "likes" and the "views" and plaudits, then being up for a little while on YouTube before getting pulled (or pulling it themselves) gets it to far more people than going on a message board and posting a file link.

From what I can tell, that channel looks like it learned early on that stuff gets pulled, so I'm guessing they put stuff up and then pull it down before it gets a copyright strike. I don't check on this stuff on a regular basis, so I'm not sure.

I don't think it's possible for this stuff to particularly "fly under the radar" at this point.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2023, 01:49:05 PM »

If you share files that aren't exclusively welded to a single corporate platform then those files can continue be shared among other human beings with similar interests, almost indefinitely, entirely free of algorithms or tracking metrics!

All this being said I know the audio can and has been ripped from youtube and shared on more under the radar channels already, it's just a silly barrier for people to have to go around

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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2023, 08:55:04 PM »

In the category of something that should have happened but didn't and now it "has," Dae Lims presents AI Frank Sinatra's soulful performance of Still I Dream Of It...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC1Z82hM0bc
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2023, 05:06:14 AM »

I don't really get the ethos of sharing this stuff exclusively via youtube, which puts a hard ceiling on the audio quality/bitrate and also basically guarantees that interested copyrightholders will see it and have absolutely no trouble getting it removed.  The point of flying under the radar is you get to keep flying that way.

Agreed.  I hope that Dae Lims shares his stuff on other formats where you can download his stuff at a higher quality than what YouTube offers.  He used to be active on SoundCloud years ago; perhaps he could put his stuff out on there...?
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2023, 08:17:03 AM »

As a Sinatra fan, I have to say hearing that is stunning, uplifting, and sad at the same time. Stunning because I had always wanted to hear Sinatra's voice on that track, and short of hiring a Sinatra impersonator to cut a lead vocal over the backing track, AI has made that hypothetical session possible. This track sounds like Sinatra's output in the 70's, it would have fit on any of that era's releases. The backing arrangement combined with Sinatra's vocal timbre (or the approximation of it) fits so well. Uplifting for the same reasons, just being able to hear an approximate version of what never happened but was imagined for a long time. Sad because the original pairing never happened, even though according to a Brian interview there was a meeting with Sinatra scheduled to discuss him recording this song and potentially others too. I think if that happened it would have been a terrific fit and the song could have gone into Sinatra's songbook and live shows. That will always be the sadness of the whole thing.

If Sid Mark were still alive, and you could have sent it to him, I'm sure he would have loved this track and perhaps even played it on his show. There's a difference between the hack AI that has Frank singing Nirvana, and AI Frank actually singing a song that was written and arranged with his voice in mind but sadly never got recorded.

Great work.
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2023, 08:23:29 AM »

Just adding one minor nit-pick: The only part of the track that didn't fit the Sinatra sound was the ad-libbing at the end. Sinatra most likely would not have sung "yeah yeah yeah" and the other syllables, instead he would more likely have hummed a part of the melody in the outro or something similar, especially at this point in his career and based on hearing a ton of Frank's work from the 70's and 80's both live and studio. Again that's just pointing out the one element that stood out as something not characteristic of Frank's vocal style. Other than that, stunning work.
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« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2023, 08:56:48 AM »

It sounds like the vocal is being run through Brian’s lead vocal track (or Brian’s lead vocal is somehow a component), because that vocal has a weird mix of Brian’s voice and the fake Sinatra voice.

I’m not a Sinatra aficionado, so I’m certainly not as trained on his voice as the BBs, Beatles, etc., but this sounds pretty par for the course compared to the other tracks. It’s certainly more workshopped than most of the fake AI vocals on YouTube. But it doesn’t sound like the real thing either, to me.

Would there be value in having like a Sinatra impersonator sing the song to hear kind of what it would sound like had he recorded it? Maybe? So I guess this AI vocal is kind of like that.

Listening to Brian’s vocals (which are quite affecting and poignant) and then a fake Sinatra, I think the answer as to who should have sang the song is pretty obvious: Carl Wilson.

But hey, I’m someone who probably enjoys Brian’s demos of “Still I Dream of It” and “It’s Over Now” more than the studio versions. Not a super huge fan of that 70s lounge band sound.

It could be worse. See: Gary Usher’s mid-80s lyrical rewrite of “Still I Dream of It.”
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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2023, 03:45:59 PM »

Where can the Usher lyrics be seen?
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« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2023, 05:22:31 PM »

As a Sinatra fan, I have to say hearing that is stunning, uplifting, and sad at the same time. Stunning because I had always wanted to hear Sinatra's voice on that track, and short of hiring a Sinatra impersonator to cut a lead vocal over the backing track, AI has made that hypothetical session possible. This track sounds like Sinatra's output in the 70's, it would have fit on any of that era's releases. The backing arrangement combined with Sinatra's vocal timbre (or the approximation of it) fits so well. Uplifting for the same reasons, just being able to hear an approximate version of what never happened but was imagined for a long time. Sad because the original pairing never happened, even though according to a Brian interview there was a meeting with Sinatra scheduled to discuss him recording this song and potentially others too. I think if that happened it would have been a terrific fit and the song could have gone into Sinatra's songbook and live shows. That will always be the sadness of the whole thing.

If Sid Mark were still alive, and you could have sent it to him, I'm sure he would have loved this track and perhaps even played it on his show. There's a difference between the hack AI that has Frank singing Nirvana, and AI Frank actually singing a song that was written and arranged with his voice in mind but sadly never got recorded.

Great work.

My sentiments exactly!! I have always wondered "what if" with this song, and now I'm hearing Frank sing this song (yes I realize it's not actually him). I saw this pop up in my YouTube feed last night and I've played it a lot since then. What a crazy time to be alive - just 1-2 years ago I'd never think this was remotely possible.

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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2023, 06:53:58 AM »

It sounds like the vocal is being run through Brian’s lead vocal track (or Brian’s lead vocal is somehow a component), because that vocal has a weird mix of Brian’s voice and the fake Sinatra voice.

I’m not a Sinatra aficionado, so I’m certainly not as trained on his voice as the BBs, Beatles, etc., but this sounds pretty par for the course compared to the other tracks. It’s certainly more workshopped than most of the fake AI vocals on YouTube. But it doesn’t sound like the real thing either, to me.

Would there be value in having like a Sinatra impersonator sing the song to hear kind of what it would sound like had he recorded it? Maybe? So I guess this AI vocal is kind of like that.

Listening to Brian’s vocals (which are quite affecting and poignant) and then a fake Sinatra, I think the answer as to who should have sang the song is pretty obvious: Carl Wilson.

But hey, I’m someone who probably enjoys Brian’s demos of “Still I Dream of It” and “It’s Over Now” more than the studio versions. Not a super huge fan of that 70s lounge band sound.

It could be worse. See: Gary Usher’s mid-80s lyrical rewrite of “Still I Dream of It.”


Are you listning to the same track posted above or Mike Leroy's? if the latter, you're right. If the Dae Lim's version is what you're referencing I think you may be hearing something that is not there. This was definitely not modeled on Brian's original vocal. Phrasing is completely different.
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« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2023, 10:09:43 AM »

Funny enough, mine was me singing as well. Guess I'm a bit too much of a Brian fan and not enough Sinatra!  LOL

Well, that video was just a little joke to show I'm still working on stuff... can't wait till you guys see what I'm cooking up next...
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« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2023, 12:15:52 PM »

Where can the Usher lyrics be seen?

I believe they're reprinted in McParland's Gary Usher/Brian book. I have the 2013 edition. Not sure which older variations have them.

I could swear somebody online at some point posted them as well. A literaly 5-second search I just did didn't turn anything up, but they might be out there on a board/post somewhere.
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