Sex Pistols to R&R Hall of Fame: Up yours, we're not coming.

[Chance]

Here's the statement, posted on both the Pistols and Lydon's websites:

"Next to the SEX PISTOLS, rock and roll and that hall of fame is a piss stain. Your museum. Urine in wine. We're not your monkeys and so what? Fame for $25,000 if we paid for a table, or $15,000 to squeek up in the gallery, goes to a non-profit organization selling us a load of old famous. Congratulations. If you voted for us, hope you noted your reasons. You're anonymous as judges, but you're still music industry people. We're not coming. You're not paying attention. Outside the sh*t-stem is a real SEX PISTOL."

[Old Rake]

Wow, how subversive.

 

He HAD to say that, really. If they'd showed up and been good, who woulda cared anymore?

PS: Steve Jones' radio show is the best thing ever.

[Chris D.]

Wow, how subversive.

No, I think it is.  I don't think they're just talking to the Hall, but the fans too: "We're not your monkeys and so what?"  People love putting Lydon down now, as if he's done nothing in his whole career.  I'm glad he tells most people to take a hike.

[Jason]

That's just one more reason the Pistols were the finest that the British isles had to offer during the punk era.

[zelilgirlI1cenu]

Amen to you both Chris and Jason. There's NEVER any harm stirring the pot.

[Jason]

Daniele the PUNK CHICA!

[zelilgirlI1cenu]

Did you not know?
1977
Never go to heaven

[Jason]

Did you not know?
1977
Never go to heaven

I don't invest much time in ascertaining the histories of people who post here, Daniele.

[Old Rake]

It would have been more subersive if they'd shown up, played a few songs, dressed nice, said "thank you" to everybody, and then left.

[I. Spaceman]

It would have been more subersive if they'd shown up, played a few songs, dressed nice, said "thank you" to everybody, and then left.

I must agree.

[Boxer Monkey]

It would have been more subersive if they'd shown up, played a few songs, dressed nice, said "thank you" to everybody, and then left.

Yeah, that woulda been subversive for the Sex Pistols, maybe, insofar as it would've contradicted their image as punks. But showing up and being nice is not by definition "subversive." Would you respect them any more for playing at that piece of sh*t the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame? I wouldn't. They reformed in '96 already and everybody cried "sellout." Why should they get back together for a bunch of dilettantes? f*** that. They absolutely did the right thing, even if it was predictable.

[I. Spaceman]

But showing up and being nice is not by definition "subversive."

Nah, you show up, play nice, THEN f*** the whole thing up. That's subversive. What the Beatles did.
Otherwise it's just boring political manifestoes that no one pays any attention to.

[Chris D.]

But showing up and being nice is not by definition "subversive."

Nah, you show up, play nice, THEN foda the whole thing up. That's subversive. What the Beatles did.
Otherwise it's just boring political manifestoes that no one pays any attention to.

Maybe, but it fits with rejecting their spot on that stupid Rhino box.  I think they're tired of everyone jumping on the punk bandwagon in the past few years.  Besides, if they showed up and acted nice, everyone would know it was a joke right away.  Look at who we're talking about.  Like it says in the letter, you're not paying attention.

[Charles LePage @ ComicList]

Sounds to me like they're taking themselves and the hall of fame a little too seriously.

[Mitchell]

I feel like I've been cheated, somehow...

[theeponymuseudonym]

Balls to You All!@!!!!!!!

[Jason Penick]

Nah, you show up, play nice, THEN foda the whole thing up. That's subversive.

Yet another reason why Mike Love is a true punk rock icon.

[Sir Rob]

Maybe Lydon and co have taken their cue from Bob Dylan.  Last year Dylan was inducted into the UK RnR Hall of Fame except he wasn't there at the ceremony because he was performing live that night at a UK venue!  As I understand it, the organisers wanted to do a live link up to the concert where Dylan would receive his 'induction' or whatever, a standard sort of thing with these type of ceremonies.  But Bobby wasn't having any of it.  In the event Woody Harrelson (?!) accepted the induction on Dylan's behalf.  A bland statement was put out by Dylan's organisation afterwards saying how very honoured he was etc etc.  I think the organisers were pretty dismayed by Dylan's non-co-operation, what with him actually being in UK at the time.   

[Old Rake]

They absolutely did the right thing, even if it was predictable.

Maybe I just expected a press statement that didn't sound like it was written by an inarticulate 20-year-old. Lydon's been dinking with the press for 30 years and that's the best he can do? "You're not paying attention?" Dude, we're paying attention. Even the rock hall yahoos are "paying attention."

Its more likely they just dont' *care*. I mean, duh, of course they HAVE to honor them by admitting them. They can't just ignore 'em.

[zelilgirlI1cenu]

Like Michael Moore, the job of people like Lydon is not to solve the world's issues, but to point to them asclearly as their mind will let them.

[Chance]

Maybe I just expected a press statement that didn't sound like it was written by an inarticulate 20-year-old.

Jon, have you seen the letter? It's kinda scary, looks like one of those Zodiac Killer or Son of Sam letters. When I transcribed it, I corrected some bad spelling and punctuation. I'm a lilttle surprised to see someone as intelligent as Lydon could use a little summer school.

Anyway, I think it's great, I've been on a big Pistols kick for about a month, so the timing is perfect. This is exactly what they should have done IMO. I wouldn't have wanted them to show up and act thankful and assimilated, I wouldn't have wanted them to show up and act like arrogant, embarrassing assholes. The thing to do was to blow it off. I wasn't expecting such a vitriolic flipping of the bird, but it seems appropriate coming from them. I think he's completely sincere, too, I'd say he did this (and pulled the rest of the band behind him) because he felt it, not because it's what everyone was waiting for. And on a superficial level, I have to say it's kinda exciting to see them, even briefly, back in the public eye as Sex Pistols again rather than former Sex Pistols.

Oh, I think Steve and John are going to be appearing together on Jimmy Kimmel's show sometime in March, I think it might be March 10, if anyone wants to catch it.

[Dancing Bear]

It would matter if they hadn't done a "Take the money and run" world tour reunion. Or if Lydon showed one pint of sense of humour. He must always be ... in charge. He's boring.

[GP1138]

Like Michael Moore, the job of people like Lydon is not to solve the world's issues, but to point to them asclearly as their mind will let them.

I hope you're being sarcastic. Michael Moore.... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

[Joshilyn Hoisington]

Yet another reason why Mike Love is a true punk rock icon.

Took the words out of my mouth.

See, we're still talking about that to this day.  Who will be talking about the Pistol's snub in a decade or so?

[Old Rake]

Like Michael Moore, the job of people like Lydon is not to solve the world's issues, but to point to them asclearly as their mind will let them.

I hope you're being sarcastic. Michael Moore.... BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

She's not being sarcastic. Agree or disagree with the guy, he definitely raises some interesting issues.