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« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2008, 01:59:29 AM »

In my naive optimism i'd like to think he'd put out a brand new album next year, nothing too laboured just a collection of new tunes with a bit of enthusiasm. As long as there's no spoken word interludes on it - I don't want to hear any more of that nonsense!

So you hate 'California Saga' then?
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« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2008, 02:08:41 AM »

In my naive optimism i'd like to think he'd put out a brand new album next year, nothing too laboured just a collection of new tunes with a bit of enthusiasm. As long as there's no spoken word interludes on it - I don't want to hear any more of that nonsense!

So you hate 'California Saga' then?

Yep! - and don't get me started on the intro of 'Santa ana winds'!
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« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2008, 02:16:23 AM »

In my naive optimism i'd like to think he'd put out a brand new album next year, nothing too laboured just a collection of new tunes with a bit of enthusiasm. As long as there's no spoken word interludes on it - I don't want to hear any more of that nonsense!

So you hate 'California Saga' then?

Yep! - and don't get me started on the intro of 'Santa ana winds'!

So you won't buy the Kalinich record either when it comes out?
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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2008, 03:46:27 AM »

In my naive optimism i'd like to think he'd put out a brand new album next year, nothing too laboured just a collection of new tunes with a bit of enthusiasm. As long as there's no spoken word interludes on it - I don't want to hear any more of that nonsense!

So you hate 'California Saga' then?

Yep! - and don't get me started on the intro of 'Santa ana winds'!

So you won't buy the Kalinich record either when it comes out?

No, not my bag
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« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2008, 03:52:06 AM »

In my naive optimism i'd like to think he'd put out a brand new album next year, nothing too laboured just a collection of new tunes with a bit of enthusiasm. As long as there's no spoken word interludes on it - I don't want to hear any more of that nonsense!

So you hate 'California Saga' then?

Yep! - and don't get me started on the intro of 'Santa ana winds'!

So you won't buy the Kalinich record either when it comes out?

No, not my bag

Not mine either. I read one poem of his (included in the Kingsley Abbott book on Pet Sounds, I think). It's not poetry. It's a more or less randomized series of words eulogizing Brian Wilson. Which is something else.
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« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2008, 05:26:15 AM »

It's not poetry. It's a more or less randomized series of words eulogizing Brian Wilson.
That could describe this message board.
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« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2008, 01:33:08 PM »

A rock album might work about now.  Brian's voice is shot except for his raspy rock voice and semi-high b/r vocal voice.

Also, Brian really has been wanting to get 'Proud Mary' on an album for ages.  Personally, I love his 'PM' synth groove though I know many don't.
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« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2008, 10:49:30 PM »

In my naive optimism i'd like to think he'd put out a brand new album next year, nothing too laboured just a collection of new tunes with a bit of enthusiasm. As long as there's no spoken word interludes on it - I don't want to hear any more of that nonsense!

So you hate 'California Saga' then?

How can anyone NOT like California Saga? The spoken word parts on that aren't as cringe-worhty as the otherwise excellent TLOS.
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« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2008, 11:47:58 PM »

I dont think the spoken word parts on TLOS are that bad, they add to the music and lend the album gravitas. At any rate doing that kind of thing is a pretty big risk for a popular artist, or once-popular artist. It is an ambitious and arty undertaking, and I would rather see Brian(and co--I really think TLOS is a collaborative effort--I sort of wish they would call himself "the Brian Wilson Band" rather than "Brian Wilson) take some risks than just half-assedly put out a collection of songs. 
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« Reply #59 on: November 22, 2008, 12:59:53 AM »

It's not poetry. It's a more or less randomized series of words eulogizing Brian Wilson.
That could describe this message board.

Aegir, your humor kills me. Not for the first time. Wetting pants situation.
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« Reply #60 on: November 22, 2008, 12:14:22 PM »

Has this interview happened yet? I'm not sure of the time difference but if anyone has any info I'd be keen to hear what brian has to say about this proposed album.

Many thanks!
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« Reply #61 on: November 22, 2008, 02:36:46 PM »

It's a great show. Played loads of good and lesser-known BBs numbers throughout. Brian's obviously a Republican and voted for McCain. Rattled through lots of good questions and got some quick answers, not a bad strategy actually, given the tight responses. Actually the best interview I've heard or read in the last year or 2 (not saying much).  Interview about 1:33 into the show, link:

http://mp3archives.wfmu.org/archive/kdb/mp3jump.mp3/0:7:19/0/SH/sh081122.mp3
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« Reply #62 on: November 22, 2008, 02:40:52 PM »

Oh, and Pleasure Island - he's not writing the songs, just currently thinking about it. No mention of Pinnochio, rather a bunch of teenagers who discover an island...
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« Reply #63 on: November 22, 2008, 02:47:27 PM »

Oh, and Pleasure Island - he's not writing the songs, just currently thinking about it. No mention of Pinnochio, rather a bunch of teenagers who discover an island...

Wooo Hooo - Scooby Doo!!
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« Reply #64 on: November 22, 2008, 03:06:10 PM »

And the monster turns out to have been... Murry/Mike/Record label execs/Landy ... all along !
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« Reply #65 on: November 22, 2008, 06:17:08 PM »

Oh, and Pleasure Island - he's not writing the songs, just currently thinking about it. No mention of Pinnochio, rather a bunch of teenagers who discover an island...

In that case I'm Brad Pitt- not sleeping with Angelina, just currently thinking about it!

Brian didn't have a title for PS in 66. Mike came up with that but now he has titles before a note is recorded?
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« Reply #66 on: November 22, 2008, 07:21:39 PM »

That was a great interview. I really enjoyed it.
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« Reply #67 on: November 22, 2008, 10:34:19 PM »

Well we know he's just had a fairly productive writing spree, which must have had something to do with Capitol signing him...

We do Huh  It was Huh  Must have been napping and missed that one.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #68 on: November 22, 2008, 10:59:24 PM »

Brian's obviously a Republican and voted for McCain.



Wait, what??!!!!! Huh Huh Huh NOOOO!!! I didn't really need to know that.

I doubt Brian's ever really been that political, anyway.
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« Reply #69 on: November 23, 2008, 12:39:26 AM »

Well we know he's just had a fairly productive writing spree, which must have had something to do with Capitol signing him...

We do Huh  It was Huh  Must have been napping and missed that one.  Roll Eyes

AGD, why the sarcasm? Brian wrote a load of new songs including the TLOS stuff, Message man etc. which I think it's reasonable to describe as a 'fairly productive writing spree' especially by his standards. I have no idea of the specifics of Capitol's signing Brian but ventured that I it was related to his apparent creative rejuvenation, which is surely not an absurd proposition.
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« Reply #70 on: November 23, 2008, 12:54:50 AM »

I think it was because he was commisioned to write it and once he had signed a deal he was bound to it.
The good reviews in London made Capitol think it was a good decision to record it. Business, pure and simple.
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« Reply #71 on: November 23, 2008, 12:57:20 AM »

I don't think he has been in the past, either. But now it appears he is.  Embarrassed

Brian's obviously a Republican and voted for McCain.



Wait, what??!!!!! Huh Huh Huh NOOOO!!! I didn't really need to know that.

I doubt Brian's ever really been that political, anyway.
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« Reply #72 on: November 23, 2008, 01:18:49 AM »

Well we know he's just had a fairly productive writing spree, which must have had something to do with Capitol signing him...

We do Huh  It was Huh  Must have been napping and missed that one.  Roll Eyes

AGD, why the sarcasm? Brian wrote a load of new songs including the TLOS stuff, Message man etc. which I think it's reasonable to describe as a 'fairly productive writing spree' especially by his standards. I have no idea of the specifics of Capitol's signing Brian but ventured that I it was related to his apparent creative rejuvenation, which is surely not an absurd proposition.

Your definition of "just" is evidently a lot different to mine - the bulk of the TLOS stuff was composed summer 2006, and "Message Man" sounds awfully like 1995's "Marketplace" to these ears.

As for the specifics of the Capitol signing, I'd venture it was a combination of a desire to shift units and an equal desire for column inches, on the part of both parties. I'm awaiting the post-TLOS developments with uncommon interest. As for Pleasure Island, granted we've only have a working title and a few words of description to go on... but in my view it sounds just awful.
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« Reply #73 on: November 23, 2008, 01:34:24 AM »

Brian's obviously a Republican and voted for McCain.



Wait, what??!!!!! Huh Huh Huh NOOOO!!! I didn't really need to know that.

I doubt Brian's ever really been that political, anyway.

Really, the world of the BB has been pretty close to all things conservative for quite a long time, so this sure doesn't come as a big surprise. Me, I couldn't care less as long as he doesn't feel inclined to write a song about his political worldview (no matter who he voted for).
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« Reply #74 on: November 23, 2008, 03:15:15 AM »

Your definition of "just" is evidently a lot different to mine - the bulk of the TLOS stuff was composed summer 2006, and "Message Man" sounds awfully like 1995's "Marketplace" to these ears.

Andrew, may I ask why it matters that it wasn't written in recent (at least recent enough for you) times? I have just never understood why that matters... to me, if Pet Sounds was written in 1964 and not released until 1966, I would just think 'who cares'.

And the same goes for when people say "well Brian just recycled this melody from some unreleased song"... well first off, how is that bad? He still wrote it and secondly we really aren't supposed to hear that unreleased stuff now are we? So I think it's fair enough that artists recycle their unused stuff.

But yeah I agree with buddhahat, it has been a fairly productive time for Brian considering everything... I mean the man isn't 20 years old anymore and isn't 100% mentally of course. And besides, artists these days (on the whole) don't release as much stuff as they did back then anyway.
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