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Title: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Please delete my account on September 12, 2015, 12:37:02 AM When I first got into the BBs, it was the 1967-1971 era that hooked me at first. Then I started working backwards through the earlier stuff via the two-for-one CDs.
I would have got them in an order something like this (I already had Pet Sounds since I was a kid). Smiley Smile/Wild Honey Friends/20 20 Sunflower/Surf's Up Today/Summer Days Little Deuce Coupe/All Summer Long Surfer Girl/Shut Down vol. II For a long while I reckoned they were all I needed. An early UK compilation I had represented the post- 1971 era with "Rock and Roll Music", "Lady Lynda" and "Kokomo", all of which I hated. So I started with the assumption that it was all downhill from 1971. (Even Surf's Up I considered only half a great album, and probably where the rot first set in.) At length I heard Carl and the Passions, Holland and Love You and was unimpressed. I made illegal copies of the five songs I didn't mind on CATP (not the Flame tracks or "He Come Down") but only really listened to the anomalous "All This Is That" and occasionally "Mess Of Help". Holland I just didn't get. Post-Holland I thought was territory only superfans blinded by devotion would dare tread. i had two friends who loved the Beach Boys who were in a '70s phase and mostly listened to and talked about '70s and '80s Beach Boys and I was sure they were doing it ironically, and because they had already played the good stuff to death. We listened to Love You in a car journey once (I was a semi-reluctant listener) and they were laughing AT the lyrics and production, not WITH them. Another friend sent me a link to an illegal download of Adult Child. I think I listened to a couple of tracks before deleting it, afeared it would take up too much room on my computer. The attitude I had was, This '63-'71 period is near-perfect, why would I dilute or taint my Beach Boys collection with inferior material? I wanted to have a sound picture in my mind of unqualified wonderment. I was also worried that pursuing their records further was a slippery slope, that i wouldn't stop at the '70s, I would go onto the '80s, and because I was such a fan I would eventually convince myself that the stuff was good, and be one of those annoying superfans who can't have a conversation about the band with a normal person because you've abandoned all critical discrimination. Of course, I caved. With the advent of Spotify I could listen to M.I.U. without even the hassle of going to borrow it off my friend, and I realised how narrow-minded and prejudiced I'd been. Although that is the last Beach Boys album I like until TWGMTR. Does this strike a chord with anyone? Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 12, 2015, 12:58:02 AM I'd say 63-73 is the essential Beach Boys period. Things were never the same after that but there's still plenty of good stuff post Holland mixed in with the dross.The only two albums I've never bothered buying are Stars & Stripes and That's Why God Made the Radio.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 12, 2015, 05:00:13 AM The attitude I had was, This '63-'71 period is near-perfect, why would I dilute or taint my Beach Boys collection with inferior material? I wanted to have a sound picture in my mind of unqualified wonderment. I was also worried that pursuing their records further was a slippery slope, that i wouldn't stop at the '70s, I would go onto the '80s, and because I was such a fan I would eventually convince myself that the stuff was good, and be one of those annoying superfans who can't have a conversation about the band with a normal person because you've abandoned all critical discrimination. This sounds 100% like me. I haven't wanted to venture past '77... I still don't have any of the albums between Love You and TWGMTR.Of course, I caved. With the advent of Spotify I could listen to M.I.U. without even the hassle of going to borrow it off my friend, and I realised how narrow-minded and prejudiced I'd been. Although that is the last Beach Boys album I like until TWGMTR. Does this strike a chord with anyone? Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 12, 2015, 09:29:26 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Malc on September 12, 2015, 10:50:49 AM [/quote] This sounds 100% like me. I haven't wanted to venture past '77... I still don't have any of the albums between Love You and TWGMTR. [/quote] Pacific Ocean Blue ?? Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: runnersdialzero on September 12, 2015, 11:51:55 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Douchepool on September 12, 2015, 12:35:59 PM If you don't want to listen to anything after a certain era, that's your choice, sure...and you'd also be bloody ignorant on top of it because you'd be missing a lot of righteous music.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: MikestheGreatest!! on September 12, 2015, 01:14:50 PM Actually, I can't think of a BB's album that doesn't have at least a few interesting tracks on them. And nearly all of them are at least good, if approached with an open mind. Even SIP has some good tunes on it. Ok, I'm not too crazy about Stars and Stripes, but that is the only really lame release and were they even really trying by then? Even an album like MIU has its charming moments, goofy lyrics, moments of music that could only have come from our favorite band, for good or for ill. Heck, on some days I even like Winds of Change, depending on my mood. Not too big on the '85 album either, but if I get in an eighties mood....
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Lonely Summer on September 12, 2015, 01:20:05 PM I'd say 63-73 is the essential Beach Boys period. Things were never the same after that but there's still plenty of good stuff post Holland mixed in with the dross.The only two albums I've never bothered buying are Stars & Stripes and That's Why God Made the Radio. I finally bought S&S - on cassette at a thrift store. haven't played it, though.Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Fire Wind on September 12, 2015, 01:20:15 PM I would eventually convince myself that the stuff was good, and be one of those annoying superfans who can't have a conversation about the band with a normal person because you've abandoned all critical discrimination. Do these people actually exist, though, in BB fandom? From what I've seen on forums, folk seem to have a pretty clear-headed view of the later years, accepting that there's a long, slow decline, but some worthwhile tunes to be found here and there. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: JK on September 12, 2015, 04:57:04 PM Does this strike a chord with anyone? A familiar story. It took me a while to get used to the fact that, say, "Make It Big" was credited to the same band that recorded "Don't Worry, Baby". Years. I've always liked "Make It Big"----at first I didn't know it was The Beach Boys. When I found that out it became a bit of a problem, lol. But I got there in the end. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 12, 2015, 05:18:15 PM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Uh, yes it is. Labeling it as obligatory filler would be far too generous and complimentary for something as insipidly boring as that particular attempt at a song. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 12, 2015, 05:43:58 PM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Please delete my account on September 12, 2015, 06:13:57 PM I would eventually convince myself that the stuff was good, and be one of those annoying superfans who can't have a conversation about the band with a normal person because you've abandoned all critical discrimination. Do these people actually exist, though, in BB fandom? From what I've seen on forums, folk seem to have a pretty clear-headed view of the later years, accepting that there's a long, slow decline, but some worthwhile tunes to be found here and there. I never read BBs forums in those days. I was more thinking about people I knew in real life, or who I imagined to exist. Actually you'd be hard pressed to get filledeplage to criticize anything the Beach Boys have done. Re: Daybreak... I agree with OSD that it's easily the worst song on the album. I can't bear to listen to it. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 12, 2015, 06:14:09 PM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. Well, then shudder away. PLOBAS and Shelter are two fine songs that never get the "skip" option. BIM and SV are passable but DOTO is a total misfit. If anything, it would fit far better on any of myKe's wonderful :o solo outings. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 12, 2015, 06:23:23 PM I would have to be willing to part money to own them in the first place to engage the 'skip' option.
Shelter; Jeff Foskett featuring The Beach Boys..... Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 12, 2015, 06:46:25 PM I don't think that's uncommon for a big fan of any long-living musical act. You listen to the best and most famous material hundreds of times and while you still love it, you get just a little bit tired of it and you start to dig deeper to find something to love in the less remembered songs and albums. The Beach Boys are a group just full of forgotten gems.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: runnersdialzero on September 12, 2015, 07:43:36 PM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Uh, yes it is. Labeling it as obligatory filler would be far too generous and complimentary for something as insipidly boring as that particular attempt at a song. I met the band in 2012 and they told me "Beaches In Mind" was specifically written for a Viagra commercial. Don't tell anyone else, though. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Douchepool on September 12, 2015, 08:02:22 PM Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. Yeah, those are some dire ones. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Moon Dawg on September 12, 2015, 08:09:24 PM I'd say 63-73 is the essential Beach Boys period. Things were never the same after that but there's still plenty of good stuff post Holland mixed in with the dross.The only two albums I've never bothered buying are Stars & Stripes and That's Why God Made the Radio. So, you bought SIP but not TWGMTR ? Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Moon Dawg on September 12, 2015, 08:12:52 PM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. I like "Spring Vacation." "Daybreak" is not wretched. "Beaches in Mind" kind of blows. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 13, 2015, 12:23:54 AM I'd say 63-73 is the essential Beach Boys period. Things were never the same after that but there's still plenty of good stuff post Holland mixed in with the dross.The only two albums I've never bothered buying are Stars & Stripes and That's Why God Made the Radio. So, you bought SIP but not TWGMTR ? Yep. The only song I really liked off TWGMTR was the title track, so I just bought the download for that. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Fire Wind on September 13, 2015, 02:52:32 AM Shelter's okay. I guess they used Foskett so the chorus is in a falsetto. Nothing wrong with that on a Beach Boys song, and who else is gonna sing it?
Daybreak's great. Best, most Beach Boysy song on the album. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Rocky Raccoon on September 13, 2015, 03:50:37 AM I'd say 63-73 is the essential Beach Boys period. Things were never the same after that but there's still plenty of good stuff post Holland mixed in with the dross.The only two albums I've never bothered buying are Stars & Stripes and That's Why God Made the Radio. So, you bought SIP but not TWGMTR ? Yep. The only song I really liked off TWGMTR was the title track, so I just bought the download for that. You didn't like "Summer's Gone"? Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: MyDrKnowsItKeepsMeCalm on September 13, 2015, 05:06:51 AM Quote This sounds 100% like me. I haven't wanted to venture past '77... I still don't have any of the albums between Love You and TWGMTR. Pacific Ocean Blue ?? Just for completeness/curiosity's sake I'll probably finish the rest of the 70s BB albums at some point. I have faith that I'll enjoy a handful of songs at least, even if the albums overall may not do it for me. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: phirnis on September 13, 2015, 06:17:20 AM Like many others I'm a huge fan of Love You. Other than that, Light Album is a personal favorite out of all the post-Holland records. I agree with whoever said it's a bit like the BB's Tusk. It also contains one of my fave Brian songs ever (and I don't mean Shortenin' Bread) and I think Carl's contributions here are way underrated. They're like a glimpse into the soul of someone who must've felt very exhausted and melancholy at the time. Some of the lyrics speak volumes. Dennis was in fine form as well, in fact I like Love Surrounds Me and Baby Blue even better than most of the songs on POB. His singing on Angel Come Home is exceptional! After L.A., the last true borderline classic from the BB world to me is BW88.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 13, 2015, 06:59:49 AM I'd say 63-73 is the essential Beach Boys period. Things were never the same after that but there's still plenty of good stuff post Holland mixed in with the dross.The only two albums I've never bothered buying are Stars & Stripes and That's Why God Made the Radio. So, you bought SIP but not TWGMTR ? Yep. The only song I really liked off TWGMTR was the title track, so I just bought the download for that. You didn't like "Summer's Gone"? It's ok, a bit on the dreary side. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: filledeplage on September 13, 2015, 07:11:45 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Uh, yes it is. Labeling it as obligatory filler would be far too generous and complimentary for something as insipidly boring as that particular attempt at a song. And, I like first three the best on that CD. ;) TWGMTR tells the story of how we had that transistor, all the time...almost as an appendage...all those 9volt batteries! :lol Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 13, 2015, 08:12:17 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Uh, yes it is. Labeling it as obligatory filler would be far too generous and complimentary for something as insipidly boring as that particular attempt at a song. And, I like first three the best on that CD. ;) TWGMTR tells the story of how we had that transistor, all the time...almost as an appendage...all those 9volt batteries! :lol TATD somewhat has the same purpose as Our Prayer-think of it as an intro as to what lies ahead, if you will. And, yes, the transistor radio was a kind of appendage come to think of it. Certainly a progenitor of the smart phone. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 13, 2015, 08:16:58 AM I'd say 63-73 is the essential Beach Boys period. Things were never the same after that but there's still plenty of good stuff post Holland mixed in with the dross.The only two albums I've never bothered buying are Stars & Stripes and That's Why God Made the Radio. So, you bought SIP but not TWGMTR ? Yep. The only song I really liked off TWGMTR was the title track, so I just bought the download for that. You didn't like "Summer's Gone"? It's ok, a bit on the dreary side. Yeah, too bad it's not about a hamburger stand or a drive in movie. But "...It's ok?" Huh ??? Well, then, it is true, you don't care for Brian Wilson very much, do you? Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 13, 2015, 08:27:41 AM I hate him apparently. Yeah, it was news to me too. ::)
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: filledeplage on September 13, 2015, 08:28:46 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Uh, yes it is. Labeling it as obligatory filler would be far too generous and complimentary for something as insipidly boring as that particular attempt at a song. And, I like first three the best on that CD. ;) TWGMTR tells the story of how we had that transistor, all the time...almost as an appendage...all those 9volt batteries! :lol TATD somewhat has the same purpose as Our Prayer-think of it as an intro as to what lies ahead, if you will. When all else is stripped away, I think it embodies them as vocalists in that blend. And maybe Brian's vision of how he would use their voices as instruments. But I guess that that old adage could be right..."s/he who sings, prays twice." (If it's another "Our Prayer" concept.) ;) Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: runnersdialzero on September 13, 2015, 05:19:25 PM Shelter's okay. I guess they used Foskett so the chorus is in a falsetto. Nothing wrong with that on a Beach Boys song, and who else is gonna sing it? Anyone else, please. It basically renders the song unlistenable, to me. I'm sure some will say that sounds dramatic or far-fetched, but sorry, I only mean it literally - I do not like Jeff's voice at all and I don't want to listen to it, that's all. The songwriting itself is pretty decent, and I like Brian's concept behind the lyrics, but I can't listen to it. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: The Cincinnati Kid on September 13, 2015, 05:30:49 PM Shelter's okay. I guess they used Foskett so the chorus is in a falsetto. Nothing wrong with that on a Beach Boys song, and who else is gonna sing it? Anyone else, please. It basically renders the song unlistenable, to me. I'm sure some will say that sounds dramatic or far-fetched, but sorry, I only mean it literally - I do not like Jeff's voice at all and I don't want to listen to it, that's all. The songwriting itself is pretty decent, and I like Brian's concept behind the lyrics, but I can't listen to it. Would have been great if Matt Jardine or Christian Love could have sang the higher parts on the album. Although I think Jeff's voice works well on a few of the songs like the title track. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Lonely Summer on September 13, 2015, 11:32:33 PM I will never understand why some fans don't like Foskett. I think he sings beautifully.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: phirnis on September 14, 2015, 02:38:40 AM I will never understand why some fans don't like Foskett. I think he sings beautifully. I can only speak for myself; I think his singing sounds competent yet somehow forced and uninspired. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: KDS on September 14, 2015, 05:34:45 AM I agree that the essential years are 1963-73 (I will even go so far to include 1962).
I think there's some good music post 1973. MIU is a decent album. LA is almost a good album (take away that long disco song). Still Cruisin has some good moments. And I love TWGMTR. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: rab2591 on September 14, 2015, 05:44:24 AM I will never understand why some fans don't like Foskett. I think he sings beautifully. I can only speak for myself; I think his singing sounds competent yet somehow forced and uninspired. I think his voice is great when mixed properly. But half the time it's so pushed up in the mix that it seems to drown out what's going on behind it. One song I really like his voice in is 'The Man With All The Toys'. His vocals are mixed a bit high in the mix, but it works well with the instrumentals and harmonies going on behind him. I actually love 'Shelter', but I try to mentally replace Jeff's voice with a mid-60s Brian during that track. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: pixletwin on September 14, 2015, 06:55:45 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Did you have "Beaches In Mind" in mind? That is worse than anything on Summer In Paradise imo. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: KDS on September 14, 2015, 07:21:45 AM I will never understand why some fans don't like Foskett. I think he sings beautifully. I can only speak for myself; I think his singing sounds competent yet somehow forced and uninspired. I think his voice is great when mixed properly. But half the time it's so pushed up in the mix that it seems to drown out what's going on behind it. One song I really like his voice in is 'The Man With All The Toys'. His vocals are mixed a bit high in the mix, but it works well with the instrumentals and harmonies going on behind him. I actually love 'Shelter', but I try to mentally replace Jeff's voice with a mid-60s Brian during that track. While not by favorite TWGMTR track, I really like Shelter. The only song on that album that I find a tad cringeworthy is Spring Vacation. I thought the title track and Isn't It Time made the point well enough (we're together again, yada yada). Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 14, 2015, 10:36:22 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. Well, then shudder away. PLOBAS and Shelter are two fine songs that never get the "skip" option. BIM and SV are passable but DOTO is a total misfit. If anything, it would fit far better on any of myKe's wonderful :o solo outings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3DBM4WX_no Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 14, 2015, 10:43:45 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. Well, then shudder away. PLOBAS and Shelter are two fine songs that never get the "skip" option. BIM and SV are passable but DOTO is a total misfit. If anything, it would fit far better on any of myKe's wonderful :o solo outings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3DBM4WX_no I'd say that recording was a solid attempt at Yacht Rock if the yacht were an abandoned one-man canoe stuck on a rock in a local stream during a drought. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 14, 2015, 10:48:54 AM Wow, that almost makes the TWGMTR version sound good by comparison. Almost.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: guitarfool2002 on September 14, 2015, 10:50:53 AM SmileBrian: Dammit, that YouTube clip you posted...YouTube was on auto-play, and the next video that started up in the background was a clip of Don Felder doing Hotel California at a Gibson guitar event...which would be fine as I really like Don and his work...but this one when I clicked on the screen was billed as Don, Mike Love, and John Stamos doing the song. Mike does nothing but hold a microphone, and Stamos plays the conga drums. Ohkay, then... :)
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 14, 2015, 10:53:01 AM SmileBrian: Dammit, that YouTube clip you posted...YouTube was on auto-play, and the next video that started up in the background was a clip of Don Felder doing Hotel California at a Gibson guitar event...which would be fine as I really like Don and his work...but this one when I clicked on the screen was billed as Don, Mike Love, and John Stamos doing the song. Mike does nothing but hold a microphone, and Stamos plays the conga drums. Ohkay, then... :) You got to the end of Daybreak then? Impressive, I threw in the towel after about two minutes. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: SMiLE Brian on September 14, 2015, 10:53:39 AM Mike and Stamos playing rock star again.... ::)
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: filledeplage on September 14, 2015, 10:56:30 AM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. Well, then shudder away. PLOBAS and Shelter are two fine songs that never get the "skip" option. BIM and SV are passable but DOTO is a total misfit. If anything, it would fit far better on any of myKe's wonderful :o solo outings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3DBM4WX_no Why thanks! And, yes, I'm totally messing with you. :lol All kidding aside, does anyone know who did the background vocals? Did I hear Carl or Al or any other BB's on bv's? Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Mike's Beard on September 14, 2015, 10:57:34 AM Now I know why Felder wasn't allowed to sing Victim of Love...
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: filledeplage on September 14, 2015, 10:57:51 AM Mike and Stamos playing rock star again.... ::) Too early for Stamos.Do the math. :lol Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: Peter Pumpkinhead on September 14, 2015, 11:24:17 AM Im my book, the last truly essential joint release is "Love You". After that it's pretty much a matter of finding "your own way", depending on the strength of your nerves and your personal tastes in solo work.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: The LEGENDARY OSD on September 14, 2015, 12:04:06 PM With the exception of the vapid crooning and inane lyrics of DOTO, TWGMTR would seem to be a natural fit for any BB collection if only for the last three tracks. "Daybreak" isn't even the worst song on the album. Yeah it's a pretty rotten song but it's still better than Spring Vacation Private Life of Bill & Sue Beaches in Mind and (shudder) Shelter. Well, then shudder away. PLOBAS and Shelter are two fine songs that never get the "skip" option. BIM and SV are passable but DOTO is a total misfit. If anything, it would fit far better on any of myKe's wonderful :o solo outings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3DBM4WX_no I'd say that recording was a solid attempt at Yacht Rock if the yacht were an abandoned one-man canoe stuck on a rock in a local stream during a drought. :lol :lol :lol :lol :woot :woot :woot Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: KDS on September 14, 2015, 12:07:47 PM Daybreak Over the Ocean has actually grown on me over the years.
Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: bonnevillemariner on September 14, 2015, 12:10:17 PM I would eventually convince myself that the stuff was good, and be one of those annoying superfans who can't have a conversation about the band with a normal person because you've abandoned all critical discrimination. Do these people actually exist, though, in BB fandom? From what I've seen on forums, folk seem to have a pretty clear-headed view of the later years, accepting that there's a long, slow decline, but some worthwhile tunes to be found here and there. Yeah, I'm not so sure about that, Fire Wind. I lurked here for several years before joining and chiming in, and it was pretty clear to me that the Boys' later output is king here. As for that output, I've tried countless times to appreciate (and sometimes even make it through a full listen) to their later material. Holland is the last album I can stand listening to-- and even that one makes me cringe. At this point I feel it safe to pronounce that I will never, ever, ever grow to like Love You. All this said, there are some parts on Still Cruisin' that blow me away, such as Carl's parts on Somewhere Near Japan and the intro to Island Girls. So yes, I'm pretty open-minded. I've honestly tried to like their later stuff, but it hasn't happened yet. Title: Re: I used to steer clear of the later stuff Post by: KDS on September 15, 2015, 05:39:53 AM I would eventually convince myself that the stuff was good, and be one of those annoying superfans who can't have a conversation about the band with a normal person because you've abandoned all critical discrimination. Do these people actually exist, though, in BB fandom? From what I've seen on forums, folk seem to have a pretty clear-headed view of the later years, accepting that there's a long, slow decline, but some worthwhile tunes to be found here and there. Yeah, I'm not so sure about that, Fire Wind. I lurked here for several years before joining and chiming in, and it was pretty clear to me that the Boys' later output is king here. As for that output, I've tried countless times to appreciate (and sometimes even make it through a full listen) to their later material. Holland is the last album I can stand listening to-- and even that one makes me cringe. At this point I feel it safe to pronounce that I will never, ever, ever grow to like Love You. All this said, there are some parts on Still Cruisin' that blow me away, such as Carl's parts on Somewhere Near Japan and the intro to Island Girls. So yes, I'm pretty open-minded. I've honestly tried to like their later stuff, but it hasn't happened yet. I can't help but agree about the Love You album. I think it has some nice moments, and is an improvement over 15 Big Ones (for what its worth), but I can't go all in on that album. I like Still Cruisin a lot too. But, there's really no Beach Boys between Holland and TWGMTR that I listen too on a regular basis. |