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« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2009, 11:31:05 AM »

Banana This is by FAR my favorite track on the 1985 "Beach Boys" album. Why it never got the PR it should have is beyond me.  Brow Maybe AGD can clarify on this? I personally think it would have been a GREAT single and hit.

I disagree. I find it completely synthetic BBs-by-numbers. I played it exactly three times and tried to forget it - unsuccessfully.

I'm with Don except for one thing: I can't pinpoint another track on that album as a favorite either. The whole album sounds mostly like "synthetic BBs-by-numbers" to me, a group that didn't know what to try next, went for what they thought was a hit-making formula (except they forgot to bring good songs) and failed. Again. Sad, considering we know Brian was still writing some decent songs and that the guys could all still sing at that point. There could have been more than 10 years of solid, if not groundbreaking, work. Instead there was sonic ipecac and lawsuits.

I'd say that "Where I Belong" is by far and wide the best song on BB85. I think it stands up to anything on LA Light, or maybe even Holland...the rest of that album ranged from utterly horrible to sort-of-alright (though I will admit BB85 is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me...as bad as CC is, I still enjoy listening to it every now and then.).
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« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2009, 05:13:30 PM »

I always hated the reference to Pet Sounds in Brian's Back...it was like Mike actually liked that album or something
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« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2009, 10:33:37 PM »

Well, in 1978 Pet Sounds wasn't nearly the hip thing thing to dig that it became in the 90s. He would do better - commercially - naming any track from Endless Summer.
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« Reply #28 on: June 17, 2009, 08:06:22 AM »

Hey, I like the lyrics to Brian's Back!

They say Brian's back
Well I guess he's had his ups and downs
They say Brian is back
But in my heart he's always been around



hmmm... but what about 'Not To Mention Ole' Pet Sounds' ?

Not as bad as Mike shoehorning 'Fun, fun, fun' into it and that is also in (off the top of my head) 'Summer in Paradise' and 'It's a beautiful day' plus numerous mentions of 'Good Vibrations' in other songs. There's a lot of self-referencing going on...
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« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2009, 08:33:17 AM »

I played the 85 album a LOT when it came out and for some time afterward.  I didn't care for California Calling because it sounded like they were trying tooo hard to sound like the BeachBoys.  It would have been like slipping the song n Holland.  Just didn't fit.  The big production Carl numbers sounded perfectly 80' and were quite satisfying to these ears at the time.  I guess by this time they had become quite split in their identity and felt they had to put some oldie sounding BB material on with the newer sounds.

I could easily mix Carls songs such as Maybe I Don't Know and Its Getting Late on a comp with Doobies and Dan from the same era. 

Other favs from the album Where I belong, Im so Lonely, and Male Ego.

All in all, a half good album and still more listenable than KTSA in many ways.
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« Reply #30 on: June 22, 2009, 08:52:17 PM »

It should have been the b-side to Getcha Back....btw, that Getcha Back sounds like Don't Worry Baby mixed with Hungry Heart. 

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« Reply #31 on: June 22, 2009, 09:00:39 PM »

It should have been the b-side to Getcha Back....btw, that Getcha Back sounds like Don't Worry Baby mixed with Hungry Heart. 



Interestingly, Bruce Springsteen has said (don't recall where) that he wrote Hungry Heart as a response to what feeling the Beach Boys' music gave him.  Mike Love has said (I believe in that infamous '92 Goldmine interview) that he wanted Getcha back to sound MORE like Hungry Heart; he wanted a "ballsier" sax, but STeve Levine "just didn't get it." Also, if you remember the BB's 25 year specila from Hawaii, they played a DOn't Worry Baby/Getcha Back Medley that sounded great together.
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« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2009, 09:59:56 AM »

yeah, i remember that
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« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2009, 03:09:06 PM »

I like this song & album. I love 80s Beach Boys & am not scared to say it! Grin

I seem to be a rarity though.... Happy Dance
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« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2009, 03:14:26 PM »

I like this song & album. I love 80s Beach Boys & am not scared to say it! Grin

I seem to be a rarity though.... Happy Dance

I am in your club then. I too love all their music. I like the fun sounding ones best.
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« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2009, 03:18:12 PM »

I know! I especially loveeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee "Getcha Back". Thats a personal fav, makes me all melancholy & I think we all can relate to it.
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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2009, 03:25:02 PM »

Ya Getcha back is such an awesome summer song

And anytime I play it in work, people always ask who sings it, real people pleaser
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« Reply #37 on: June 27, 2009, 08:30:12 PM »

Ya Getcha back is such an awesome summer song

And anytime I play it in work, people always ask who sings it, real people pleaser
Yeah, summer of '85 right? I remember being so proud that they were on the radio right when I was getting WAY into them. I spent that summer in Virginia Beach and remember it always being on!
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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2009, 06:05:09 PM »

Hey, I like the lyrics to Brian's Back!

They say Brian's back
Well I guess he's had his ups and downs
They say Brian is back
But in my heart he's always been around



hmmm... but what about 'Not To Mention Ole' Pet Sounds' ?

Not as bad as Mike shoehorning 'Fun, fun, fun' into it and that is also in (off the top of my head) 'Summer in Paradise' and 'It's a beautiful day' plus numerous mentions of 'Good Vibrations' in other songs. There's a lot of self-referencing going on...

Self-referencing?

You mean like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lw7dYGl-yg&feature=related

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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2009, 11:47:14 PM »

Self-referencing?

You mean like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lw7dYGl-yg&feature=related

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« Reply #40 on: July 09, 2009, 05:18:54 AM »

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A desert drive...hey don't you wanna go
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« Reply #41 on: July 09, 2009, 12:15:06 PM »

Hop in honey, sit right by my side
I'm gonna take you on a little ride
A desert drive...out where the cactus grow
A desert drive...hey don't you wanna go
Gotta get crankin' now, goin' on a desert drive

Throw on your sneakers, T-shirt and jeans
Better take your shades in case the rays get mean
A desert drive...we're gonna have some fun
A desert drive...out where the coyotes run
Gotta get crankin' now, goin' on a desert drive



It might be post modernist to the extreme and it might play off a single musical theme from the past (as do many Brian songs) but it is not self-referencing.
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« Reply #42 on: July 09, 2009, 01:17:35 PM »

Hop in honey, sit right by my side
I'm gonna take you on a little ride
A desert drive...out where the cactus grow
A desert drive...hey don't you wanna go
Gotta get crankin' now, goin' on a desert drive

Throw on your sneakers, T-shirt and jeans
Better take your shades in case the rays get mean
A desert drive...we're gonna have some fun
A desert drive...out where the coyotes run
Gotta get crankin' now, goin' on a desert drive



It might be post modernist to the extreme and it might play off a single musical theme from the past (as do many Brian songs) but it is not self-referencing.

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« Reply #43 on: July 09, 2009, 02:31:55 PM »

Hop in honey, sit right by my side
I'm gonna take you on a little ride
A desert drive...out where the cactus grow
A desert drive...hey don't you wanna go
Gotta get crankin' now, goin' on a desert drive

Throw on your sneakers, T-shirt and jeans
Better take your shades in case the rays get mean
A desert drive...we're gonna have some fun
A desert drive...out where the coyotes run
Gotta get crankin' now, goin' on a desert drive



It might be post modernist to the extreme and it might play off a single musical theme from the past (as do many Brian songs) but it is not self-referencing.

Didn't say it was. police

Forever she'll be my surfer girl
Forever she'll be my surfer girl
So sweet
Now there's all kinds of music
So sweet
And don't you know the truth is
So sweet
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« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2009, 05:35:42 PM »

I love the "So Sweet" counterpart in "Forever She'll Be Surfer Girl," beautiful.
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« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2009, 05:38:06 PM »

Then what are you saying?
Why say when you can, y'know, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more?

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« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2009, 05:41:11 PM »

For me, at least I'm consistent: those kinds of self-referential lyrics are my least favorite part of TLOS. And that song is tied with Southern California as most offensive to me in that regard. (Both beautiful songs, by the way. I'm not knocking them that way.) Whether it's Mike, Al, Brian, Paul McCartney or anyone else, it's just a little gross.
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« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2009, 05:46:04 PM »

Then what are you saying?
Why say when you can, y'know, nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more?

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« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2009, 11:46:06 PM »

Let's see TLOS is meant to be about BW, isn't it?  Are the lyrics of FSBMSG surprising in that context?
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« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2009, 10:30:07 AM »

For me, at least I'm consistent: those kinds of self-referential lyrics are my least favorite part of TLOS. And that song is tied with Southern California as most offensive to me in that regard. (Both beautiful songs, by the way. I'm not knocking them that way.) Whether it's Mike, Al, Brian, Paul McCartney or anyone else, it's just a little gross.

I totally agree, I hate all the self-referencing, without TLOS would be a great album.  I don't like on TLOS, I didn't like it on Summer In Paradise and I don't like it in the Futurama movies either!
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