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« on: October 04, 2016, 11:01:37 PM »

What would you choose?

I might choose the drum intro to The Little Girl I Once Knew, which has always bugged me that Brian didn't do just one more take to get it better! Also, the second verse's bass being a tad out of sync on I Just Wasn't Made for These Times is a bit annoying (really only audible on the instrumental version).

I am thinking that Brian might choose to have done better vocal syncing on the choruses in California Girls.

I realize that little flaws are sometimes really awesome, and that imperfections can be a great part of the humanity of these songs. Yet some flaws/flubs are just annoying and detracting!
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2016, 11:59:52 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2016, 02:59:59 AM »

No problem with BB flubs at all. The Kingsmen's "Louie Louie" is one big flub and it's my all-time favourite pop record. Grin

What I do have a problem with is the "flub" that was "corrected" on "Kiss Me, Baby". You can hear that correction here at 2:15:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNwZQDkA7XU

It's Mike's flubbed double-tracking of that last pre-chorus "Wo baby". It's all part of it, in my opinion----to be left well alone. But no...

The irony is that they've removed the wrong "Wo"!! The "Wo baby" leading into each chorus is syncopated, the ones within the choruses are not. This only adds insult to injury.
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« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2016, 04:22:30 AM »

I'd "clean up" the coda (known as "False Barnyard", I think) in H&V's cantina version. Fantastic bit, but "dirty" recording. The alternate take you hear in the Smile Sessions, with the more prominent plucked strings, is better, imho.
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« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2016, 05:38:18 AM »

I'd fix the lack of lead vocals for "Do You Like Worms", "I'm in Great Shape", "Barnyard", "Cabin-Essence" (circa 1966), "Child is Father of the Man", "Look (I Ran)", "Holidays", "Surf's Up" (circa 1966), "I Love to Say Dada", and "I Wanna Be Around/Workshop"  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2016, 01:41:43 PM »

No problem with BB flubs at all. The Kingsmen's "Louie Louie" is one big flub and it's my all-time favourite pop record. Grin

What I do have a problem with is the "flub" that was "corrected" on "Kiss Me, Baby". You can hear that correction here at 2:15:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNwZQDkA7XU

It's Mike's flubbed double-tracking of that last pre-chorus "Wo baby". It's all part of it, in my opinion----to be left well alone. But no...

The irony is that they've removed the wrong "Wo"!! The "Wo baby" leading into each chorus is syncopated, the ones within the choruses are not. This only adds insult to injury.

I'm totally with you on disliking the tinkering done on "Kiss Me Baby". I think the flub added character to the song, and I always miss it when I listen to the stereo version. Wasn't this song one of the early stereo mixes that had multiple different stereo mixes released? I wonder if any of them still retain the flub. And I wonder whose choice/idea it was to fix it in the first place.

That said, I think tinkering like this can sometimes be ok on a case-by-case basis. For example, the backing vocals are so annoyingly out of sync on Merry Christmas Baby, and it drives me nuts! I wish they could just be nudged into sync, I'd have no problem with a future release that took that liberty - especially if the original version is also digitally available, there's no harm in making a fix like that, IMO.
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