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I've been looking for a copy of POB for a while, and no store has a copy. Everyone says "Sorry, those are moved really quickly...but I have promo/signed/gold-plated copy at home!"

So I'm just gonna order a copy from the internets, the question is though, do I get a 2010 single LP reissue (not the 3-LP Caribou set for my life's savings) or do I go for an original copy?

Thanks for your advice friendly Smiley Smile board member  :love

I cant say anything about the 'music on vinyl' release a couple or so years back (the single lp edition)......

nor at this point have an original copy to compare to......BUT

but I can tell you the triple album (on blue vinyl) with the original caribou label is outstanding.....

quality is really great, the presentation is outstanding.....

when opened up, the 3 lp shows the complete front cover of Dennis...... I believe he is standing up....

in other words, you don't just get the headshot.......

there is lots of information, and its a splendid release.....

RickB

Get both!   ;D

Personally, I'd go the original in EX condition with the inserts intact, or the (as you've said, now elusive) 3 LP set - copies of which may re-surface over time (guessing).

This is because the original pressings will become scarce as the years pass - where as there will always be the chance of picking up the recent reissues or chance of future reissues in your future.

Alan is indeed right...

I only have the 3 Lp issue and I have not yet to find the original in Ex to Mint condition at an affordable price........

but however Alan, the 3 Lp at times is 'selling' at large amounts to what I originally purchased mine for........ just sayin eh?

both is a must, as the 3 Lp offers more material....... but it would also be nice to know you have the 'original' press in your collection.....

RickB

Hey Rick - totally agree with you that right now the POB 3-set price has gone gang-busters price-wise; I was angling that over time, should more 2nd hand copies turn-up or reduced demand causing saturation might bring the prices down a bit; who knows...

How about the prices for a copy of BWPS vinyl these days - sheee-it!

While the internet has made it easier to get a-hold of stuff, it certainly reduces a poor boy's ability to chance upon the good stuff at reasonable prices.

Can any generous Smilers spare a 3-set for Woodstock?

 I'm guessing that only the vinyls will work, and not the CD sets?

I was looking around today - $70 minimum.


I don't NEED a 3-set. I'd prefer one but I can't afford it.


Yes  ;D


Thanks for the info. I'll be ordering an original press as soon as I find a good deal  :angel:

You're out of touch, dude - CD's are redundant grandpa technology, now superceded by Spotify and the emerging vinyl format

Thanxx, I'll try to keep that in mind

Can you do $46?  I know where you can get the 3LP for that.  I wouldn't expect to find an original or the 2010 record for less than $30 so I'd go for it personally.

This discussion reminds me: I have an in store hanging mobile based on the album cover (fully folded). There are smaller photos on one side with a bit of text as to release label etc. Anyone have an idea how rare this is?

I have the POB CD which also includes the Bambu tracks - I really like that 3 LP set though!

Not to mention the price of a signed copy of same :o

One of my luckiest LP hauls occurred in 1990 when I received a tip-off from a local record shop owner (thanks Warwick!) that a copy of POB was stashed away in a record bin at the nearby second-hand shop. Sure enough, there it was waiting for me, along with a vinyl copy of CATP!

Dennis Wilson items in my possession:

1. Multiple copies of Dennis Wilson POB album released in 1977
2. Multiple copies of Dennis Wilson POB white-labelled promo albums released in 1977
3. River Song vinyl single w/picture sleeve (1977)
4. River Song vinyl EP w/Caribou artists (1977)
5. POB 8-track tape
6. POB, 1991 CD Reissue
7. POB, 2008 2-CD Reissue
8. Dennis Wilson press kit, Caribou.
9. Copies of POB album cover, used to promote album in record stores (1977)
10. Large door-sized Dennis Wilson POB promo poster (1977)
11. Dennis Wilson POB promo poster (1977)
12. Dennis Wilson POB coffee cup, white (1977)
13. Dennis Wilson POB balloon, green w/white print, unused (1977)
14. Dennis Wilson POB promo button (1977)
15. Dennis Wilson drumstick (busted)
16. Numerous Dennis Wilson bootlegs, vinyl and CD.
17. MIA - Dennis Wilson Bash items (poster) from Chez Jay's in 2003.

BUT.  I have never seen a POB mobile, either in a store as a promo or at record swap meets, up for auction in Goldmine/Discoveries,
or on Ebay. I have the Beach Boys 15 Big Ones and Love You mobiles, but not a POB mobile.  Is your mobile the same size as the
Beach Boys mobiles designed by Dean Torrence, or is it actually a POB album cover suspended by a string(s)? If it's a real mobile, I'd
think you have a rare item there, Moger Fooger!

It seems like the original POB on vinyl is not that hard to come by. I remember when the white-labelled promos were ubiquitous in used record stores. There were a TON of them.

By far the rarest Dennis Wilson item now is the 1991 CD resissue of the POB album.

That's a great list of stuff Mikie!  
When you say Door Sized ( # 9 ) are you saying it's something like 3 feet wide by 6-7 feet tall?   Never seen one of those, if so! Where'd it originate?  




I'd venture that the First POB promos with the written covers( signed by Dennis) would probably be as rare as the 1991 CD resissue;  
AND: someone posted  a pic of their POB test pressing on Facebook recently. It's the 1st one I've ever seen. It's probably rarer than the 91 CD, but not that important here....

Score! Warwick B, for the win - and CATP too boot!

Yeah, the ability to access a copy hasn't been a major problem but, for a time, paying for it was a prob.  Like many a good rock classic.

Oh yeah the handwritten DW promo of the POB LP is definitely rarer than the 91 CD, only 300 of those LP's were pressed (most also have "advance copy" on the label which is different from the regular white label promo), at least a few thousand of the 91 CD were distributed. There's some other stuff not on Mikie's list that is really rare, like the test pressings you alluded to, only a handful of those around, and there is an "advance" POB cassette from April 77 with Brother Studio labels on it, that's rare. There were some official POB t-shirts from '77 too, never seen one for sale, but I think I know who has one. And Carl wore one on the Australian tour.

Jon, did the studio do the 2 month full press for the release? I don't remember seeing that much in music stores let alone any TV or radio spots. Hell, Warner's did more for The Beach Boys Love You than what I saw from CBS/Caribou for Pacific Ocean Blue.

I've never even seen (pictures or in person) any of those items above nor have I seen them for sale. Forgot that I still have an 8-track tape of POB too. Were there retail cassettes of the album made? I know Dennis did a couple of POB signings (Licorice Pizza or Peaches Records & Tapes?) so whoever was standing in line probably still has an autographed copy. Way back in about 1980, a DJ at KOME radio San Jose had an autographed copy of POB and offered it to me for 100 bucks and I passed on it. DAMN! I still kick myself for not buying it.

Then there's this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Original-BEACH-BOYS-DENNIS-WILSON-DRUM-FLIGHT-CASE-Used-1975-1983-/151176566367?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2332d3565f

Bgas, I don't remember where I got the large POB poster. Either at Tower, Record Factory, or one of the two record swap meets I frequented back then. I gave one to my then girlfriend (who was a BIG Dennis/POB fan) and pretty sure I still have the other one.

Can anyone here elaborate on the rarity (or otherwise) of a copy of POB stamped "FOR PROMOTION ONLY" on the sleeve, which includes a typed letter (signed by Dennis) and envelope addressed to Bob Wilson at RADIO and RECORDERS (both on Caribou Records stationery), and three contemporaneous photos of Dennis?

Love this geeky collector part of this thread!  Mikie, your list is making me drool.  I enjoyed seeing some of your rare stuff after the Berkeley reunion show but apparently you were hiding a bunch of your primo rarities!

I am kicking myself for not picking up the 3 lp POB.  But I do have two copies of the original on vinyl.

I have a bunch of extra copies of dennis stuff besides the original POB on vinyl if anyone ever wants to strike up a trade or some such.

List of Dennis EXTRAS on cd:
Original 1991 POB on cd
4 copies of the Legacy Premier Edition with deluxe fold out digipak and extra liners (my favorite version) 2 are still sealed
3 copies of the 2 cd POB w/Bambu
2 copies of the POB & Bambu Radio Sampler cd featuring exclusive radio edit of the Taylor Hawkins version of Holy Man plus 4 other songs

I also have a few (not extra copies though) of the POB one hour radio special promo cds.  Quite weird that one is a 54 minute version and the other is a 59 minute version.  Why have two different promos with the same front cover and slightly different contents.  Weird.  Then I have another radio promo (54:30 running time) issued by Sony BMG but it is different promo with no front or back liner like the previous two I listed.  Why 3 different radio promos for the 2008 release?  Nice to have though.  I also have the radio promo plastic sleeve Holy Man cd with 2 unique edits that are different from the album verson.

I'd love to see some pictures of the mobile and posters.

My POB collection consists of:

1 original vinyl pressing of POB
1 original vinyl promo of POB (the hand written letter version)
2 sealed vinyl copies of the 3 lp POB (blue vinyl) released on Sundazed
1 copy of the legacy premier edition of POB 2 cd set

not part of POB but I also have a copy of the UK Dennis Wilson Sound of Free / Lady 7" vinyl

Rich, I think I have one or both of these on Mp3/Mp4 but not CD. These are good ones!

1. Copies of the POB & Bambu Radio Sampler cd featuring exclusive radio edit of the Taylor Hawkins version of Holy Man plus 4 other songs
2. I also have a few (not extra copies though) of the POB one hour radio special promo cds.  

And like I alluded to you and your friend before, most of my collection was locked up in storage at the time of your visit. Virginia and I got married since then, and soon after we moved into our new place, I caught Bgas peeking over the back fence when I got home from work one night. So since then I keep Guido my Doberman unchained in the yard.

One of these days I need to pick up the Sundazed POB set on blue vinyl. I'll probably never play it anyway. Always thought it would be cool to have POB on blue vinyl on the Caribou label.

Lee, nice collection. What is this:

1 original vinyl promo of POB (the hand written letter version)

Is this the one Jon or Bgas are talking about above? My promo POB albums have white Caribou labels and I think square timing promo stickers on the front covers.

This one has a promo stamp on back cover, no timing strip on cover, and not white label. Is this the one you have, Lee?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dennis-Wilson-Pacific-Ocean-Blue-LP-Rare-PROMO-Beach-Boys-/251482454437?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3a8d85b9a5

No, that's not the one I have.

I took a picture of the jacket and label but they are too big of files to post on this board.

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yes, of course there are regular cassettes. 
and I know some folks on this board have this recent CD promo:  http://www.ebay.com/itm/DENNIS-WILSON-Still-Music-Dennis-Wilson-promo-publishing-sampler-CD-/111421615806   

Did you forget to mention your promo and stock copies of the "You and I"  45, Mikie?   Or did I miss it in the list. 

And there are countless CD and LP issues from countries around the world of Dennis Wilson 45/LPs, of course including the Dennis Wilson and Rumbo 45s...

I did forget my singles. I have the U.S. stock copy of "You and I/Friday Night" and the UK version, "River Song/Farewell My Friend" single w/ps. Who knows why they're different A sides. Dennis (or CBS/Caribou) probably couldn't make up their minds. "You & I" is good, but "River Song" with the Double Rock Baptist Choir is miles above it.

And I take it back about having the POB press kit. I don't think I have it after all.

Heck Mikie!  They're completely different records, both A and B sides!!  


Just remembered I have  what could be the rarest Promo POB related item !! An in store 8 Track tape put out by "Soundaround, Inc" in November 1977;

  The tape has voiceover and partial tracks for 3 tracks from POB: Friday Night, POB, You & I; here's a chance to hear one of them:            https://www.sendspace.com/file/kevt28

Have a couple of UK pressings of the original vinyl and one Canadian promo (not white label)

Have a cassette of (I assume) the 91 reissue (sadly now devoid of music) and a couple of copies of the CD version.

Also the 2008 legacy release, a 2-CD jewel case reissue, a 1CD jewel case reissue of POB with bonus tracks. And a sampler CD or two with the Holy Man radio edit.

I srcoed a nice pre-owned copy of the Blue 3 LP set the other days. waiting for it to come soon.

ORR very kindly gave me an original pressing of the LP and the 1991 CD.
The vinyl sounds glorious.

Lots of cool info in this thread - a lot of stuff I didn't know about. Thanks for posting that POB clip bgas.

Glad you liked it! 

NOT POB, but perhaps some folks would like to hear Brian mention Murry's "Two Step Side Step" and listen to the Herbal Essence commercial? 

https://www.sendspace.com/file/umyejv

The first definitely, the second .... o dear... but we've heard weirder stuff in the past (for example I Get Around used for a tampon commercial - not kidding)

Seriously: cool recording, bgas !

Sorry for the late response,

the hanging mobile is based on the folded out LP front, but has additional photos and text on the side. From what I am reading here, this was a release launch special product for the Australian market. It is in my parent's home in Australia, and I reside in Germany, so I won't get to photograph it until January next year. However, it looks very similar to this, although from 1977 not 2008:

http://www.promo-team.de/cds/juni-08/dennis-wilson-poster.pdf

I remember the two record stores I most frequented back in the day were Tower and Record Factory. They both had promo posters of the P.O.B. album pinned on the wall in addition to multiple unfolded empty record sleeves displayed on the wall.

Sounds like that's what they did here - made a mobile out of an unfolded album cover and added more pictures and text. Cool!

(http://i458.photobucket.com/albums/qq306/Dstevenb/IMG_20150125_085929_zpsfuzaavse.jpg) (http://s458.photobucket.com/user/Dstevenb/media/IMG_20150125_085929_zpsfuzaavse.jpg.html)
As promised here is my display piece from the Aussie release of POB. Sunnies included as a size reference.

Like! Very much.

Where did you score that, Mooger?

I've got a sealed cassette tape reissue.

Mikie, apols for picking this one up so late after the day… is this the special narrated by Roger Daltrey that was broadcast on BBC Radio here in the UK?

Thanks in advance…

I picked that up from Stephen McParland in the early 80's.

For those still looking to buy the 3LP issue, it is here from a very reasonable £36.67 plus the original from £20(?)

http://www.discogs.com/Dennis-Wilson-Pacific-Ocean-Blue/master/95177 (http://www.discogs.com/Dennis-Wilson-Pacific-Ocean-Blue/master/95177)

If anyone is in any doubt, please please please buy the 3LP version-the entire package is majestic and a real tribute to the album and Dennis

I've going through my record collection and cataloging everything, and I should be able to post my entire Dennis Wilson collection in a few days.

But in the process of going through boxes I found I have doubles of these:
Pacific Ocean Blue & Bambu - Radio Sampler w/ front and back inserts (2 copies)
Pacific Ocean Blue - One Hour Radio Special (54:00 version) w/ front and back inserts
Pacific Ocean Blue and Bambu - Electronic Press Kit DVD-R (7 minutes, 41 seconds). Paper label on DVD-R
CBS MUSIC FOR EVERY EAR sampler 33 1/3 2-EP set with "River Song" (record only; no cover)

I have 3 copies of the rare advanced promo watermarked 2-CD-R set.  These were numbered on the discs (XXX out of YYY), and allegedly were entered into a database with the name of the recipient, so if a copy were show up on eBay or in a record store, Sony/BMG could trace it back to the recipient.  But here is the strange thing:
One copy is XXX out of 350
One copy is XXX out of 500
One copy is XXX out of 825

The 350 and 500 sets have each disc in a separate clear "safety sleeve" envelope with white cloth backing, with a printed back insert with the contents of the disc.  But the 825 set comes in a clear gatefold envelope, with a front cover insert and one back insert listing both CD's contents.  All of the discs are Taiyo Yuden 80-minute CD-R's (with "80 PGxxxx" serial numbers), which are legitimate high-quality industrial CD-R's commonly used by the major record labels.  Very weird... I guess I have to keep all three...

Lee

I meant to add that I have a copy of the ADVANCE PROMOTION white label LP, but it came in a plain white sleeve.  My guess is that the owner kept the personalized cover.  David Beard is the luckiest one -- he found a copy with the cover, personalized "To David", in a local record shop (Repo Records) back in the '80s.  The owner bought it in a collection, and held it until the next time David came in the store.  Talk about karma...

 Best scenario would be to send at least one copy of each to me and I'll verify them for you!

I would say that the sets were for three different departments. One was probably for press, the other two could have been for radio retail. Also, there is the possibility that a set was allocated to an outside promotion/publicity company.

My little collection

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Japan

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Austria
EU 2 CD jewel case version
EU CD jewel case version

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US
US 2CD Legacy Edition (thick dj pack)
US 2CD Legacy Edition (thin dj pack with another sticker and without deluxe book)

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US promo

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EU promo

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US Pacific Ocean Blue & Bambu Radio Sampler (5 tracks)
One Hour Radio Special (54:00 version)
One Hour Radio Special (59:00 version)

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EU "River Song" one track promo
EU "Holy Man" (radio edit)/"Holy Man" two track promo

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Bootlegs:
 2 CD The Home(r) Entertainment Network HEN 022-1/2
Bell Bottom BB044

I got the one-disc CD issue at a JB HI FI. Couldn't believe my luck, though it didn't have the second track with all the Bambu tracks. Would love to get the album on vinyl.

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Bootlegs:
CD DENN-A010
2CD DW-001CD/002CD

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EU CD mini vinyl version 2010

All I know is...I've seldom seen an original POB. :(  I think it was in 1994 when I went to a local record store and asked the guy if they had it. He said he got at least one request for it every week.

I believe it was in 2000 when I saw a promo copy at Beatlefest with a $25 price tag. I didn't feel like paying that much for a record. Kicking myself now; I could have at least tried to talk him down a few bucks...but still...one of my few regrets in life.

I've only had the two main CD reissues. I was lucky with the Caribou CD. Someone circa 1995 sent me a catalog that listed it. I called the number and asked for it, but was told that they no longer carried CDs and went all-vinyl. About half an hour later the guy called me back and told me he found a copy in the back room and if I wanted it it was mine for nine bucks. :)

You can still pick up an LP copy in that range, if you keep a watch at Ebay

I went into HMV last week looking through the 'W' vinyl section for "No Pier Pressure" when the single LP reissue jumped out at me!  I had been thinking of buying it online even though I have the 3 LP Sundazed edition.  I couldn't believe they had it in stock so bought it.

Needless to say they didn't have NPP, which I kind of expected.  But the surprising thing was that there was no Beach Boys vinyl even though the bigger Glasgow store has all the recent 70s vinyl re-issues. 

If someone had told Dennis in 1977 that nearly 40 years later his solo LP would still be getting stocked and sold in a record shop before his big brother's and the Beach Boys I am sure he would have felt quite proud.  The other aspect is that someone at the Music on Vinyl label is doing their job and someone at Capitol/UMe is not!

The vinyl is excellent, nice and flat and very quiet.  The sleeve is a faithful recreation of the original, and the label is the same as the original Caribou Records one.

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US promo 2014

Got this one too a few months ago - very nice collection indeed (although the selection's quite random here and there).

PACIFIC OCEAN BLUE & BAMBU
Audio CD (7 Oct. 2016)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/PACIFIC-OCEAN-BAMBU-DENNIS-WILSON/dp/B01K1LQLPA/ref=sr_1_1_twi_aud_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1477118461&sr=8-1&keywords=PACIFIC+OCEAN+BLUE+%26+BAMBU

Sony impress with their newly presented Legacy Editions

A series of newly reissued ‘Legacy Editions’ from Sony are presented as (almost) full-blown Japanese mini-LP CD / vinyl replica sets and the series boasts classic albums from Jeff Buckley, Dennis Wilson, Billy Joel, Elvis, Miles Davis, Iggy Pop and more. SDE has created the ‘unboxing’ type video (below) to illustrate the new packaging.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRIdKOYz15E

I managed to score the 3x LP set a few years ago on eBay for less than $50. It's one of my favorite pieces in my collection.

EDIT: ...and I just bought the UK 2016 Legacy Edition re-issue. That'll make a nice birthday present.