Lei'd In Hawaii

[hypehat]

Come on, dudes. It's a forum. Lighten the hell up and stop being shits to each other. I am obviously interested in rational discourse and chatting facts (when i remember them correctly), but i also come here because I enjoy chatting with people who share my passion for Mike Love's shiny bald head. Let's keep it cool.

[bgas]

Come on, dudes. It's a forum. Lighten the hell up and stop being fecess to each other. I am obviously interested in rational discourse and chatting facts (when i remember them correctly), but i also come here because I enjoy chatting with people who share my passion for Mike Love's shiny bald head. Let's keep it cool.

I think that's why Mike wears hats

[Jason]

Yeah folks, let's be cool, calm down, and take a few steps away from the internet. Let's all go out and give some lucky f*cker a piping hot clam chowder enema!

[bgas]

Politician or musician?

[stack-o-tracks]

Politician or musician?

Politicians really like getting stuff for doing nothing... So musician.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

[rogerlancelot]

Yeah folks, let's be cool, calm down, and take a few steps away from the internet. Let's all go out and give some lucky phucker a piping hot clam chowder enema!

Yes!!! Nobody likes an ice cold clam chowder enema (at least not that I know of)......

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

As far as the plea for rational and intelligent discourse is concerned: might I remind us all who we're here to discuss???

Perhaps we've only learned from the masters 

And AGD, would you consider referring to Mike as "Myke" an example of text-speak or troll-speak?

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

And AGD, would you consider referring to Mike as "Myke" an example of text-speak or troll-speak?

I would. At the very least, Mad Magazine-speak.

[Jay]

I hate to go off topic(   ), but I have a question. The Real Beach Boy mentioned that one of the Hawaii recordings that circulates is incomplete because of a tape change. Is it known what song(s) were not recorded?

[Jason]

Well, assuming they didn't perform anything after Barbara Ann, the tape of the 8/26 show ends about 35 seconds into Barbara Ann. As it was a mobile recording unit which the band brought with them, I doubt the Boys had access to two tape decks to record off of. The mobile recording unit, the Baldwin organ, the band's gear, PLUS the long flight...let's just say it's amazing that the gigs were ever recorded. I would have told Brian to either nix the organ or bring something more portable like Bruce was doing in 1966 into May of 1967. By all accounts the mobile recording unit was a pig to travel with.

If Steve Desper is still around, I wonder if he has any thoughts about that mobile rig they took with them. We know it was built by Wally Heider, of course.

[Micha]

... and if you're going to post in this forum, please use English and not txt spk.  We have standards.

If my regard for accuracy somehow offends you, NMP.

As a non-native English speaker, may I politely ask what the abbreviation "NMP" stands for?

[Ebb and Flow]

The sound quality isn't the greatest for those shows (especially the first night), but I've always figured they were left unreleased because of the slightly drugged-out nature of the performances and the annoying crowd noises that plague both shows.  The first live album has girls screaming at the top of their lungs, but it's basically just cacophonous background noise that can be tuned out and doesn't diminish the overall performances.  The stuff like the girl shouting Carl's name throughout God Only Knows basically made that recording unfit for commercial release, and similar stuff is present on the other songs to varying degrees.

I do think they could have released the Heider sessions as a sort of Beach Boys version of "Let It Be".

[Jay]

I've always wondered what the "technical issues" were with the recordings. Is that phrase used as a way to excuse the audience noise, or were there really technical flaws in the recording, like bad microphones, poor amp connection causing "buzzing", etc?

[Nicko1234]

... and if you're going to post in this forum, please use English and not txt spk.  We have standards.

If my regard for accuracy somehow offends you, NMP.

As a non-native English speaker, may I politely ask what the abbreviation "NMP" stands for?

Not my problem?

[Andrew G. Doe]

As far as the plea for rational and intelligent discourse is concerned: might I remind us all who we're here to discuss???

Perhaps we've only learned from the masters 

And AGD, would you consider referring to Mike as "Myke" an example of text-speak or troll-speak?

I'd consider that as the poster being a complete f*ckwit.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Well, assuming they didn't perform anything after Barbara Ann, the tape of the 8/26 show ends about 35 seconds into Barbara Ann. As it was a mobile recording unit which the band brought with them, I doubt the Boys had access to two tape decks to record off of. The mobile recording unit, the Baldwin organ, the band's gear, PLUS the long flight...let's just say it's amazing that the gigs were ever recorded. I would have told Brian to either nix the organ or bring something more portable like Bruce was doing in 1966 into May of 1967. By all accounts the mobile recording unit was a pig to travel with.

If Steve Desper is still around, I wonder if he has any thoughts about that mobile rig they took with them. We know it was built by Wally Heider, of course.

For the Hawaii gigs, they hired 3M 8-tracks from Wally Heider - there's an interesting article on the WH site about the whole thing written by one of the engineers. As for the Baldwin... Brian insisted it made the trip.

And I apologise profusely for the entirely factual content of the preceding sentence: to those who find such things distasteful, may I suggest you don't read anything with my name on it.

[metal flake paint]

Seems to me that the 25/08/67 pre-concert rehearsals would be worthy of a larger audience if Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring, Good Vibrations and Surfer Girl are anything to go by.

[oldsurferdude]

As far as the plea for rational and intelligent discourse is concerned: might I remind us all who we're here to discuss???

Perhaps we've only learned from the masters 

And AGD, would you consider referring to Mike as "Myke" an example of text-speak or troll-speak?

I'd consider that as the poster being a complete f*ckwit.

One could gather that your 8200 posts here would constitute somewhat of an extreme excess in sitting a good part of your day-hence the expanded girth I suppose.

[hypehat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VpFITa9eYoQ&feature=related

 

[bgas]

Is AGD in there somewhere?

[Jason]

As far as the plea for rational and intelligent discourse is concerned: might I remind us all who we're here to discuss???

Perhaps we've only learned from the masters 

And AGD, would you consider referring to Mike as "Myke" an example of text-speak or troll-speak?

I'd consider that as the poster being a complete f*ckwit.

One could gather that your 8200 posts here would constitute somewhat of an extreme excess in sitting a good part of your day-hence the expanded girth I suppose.

Take it to PMs, please.

[Mikie]

Is AGD in there somewhere?

And speaking of poo stirrers.  No names here, but Bgas is uh........he likes to uh.......well, you know. 

I'll take it to PM. 

[guitarfool2002]

It has to be pointed out that the mobile equipment shipped to Hawaii to record those shows was apparently the finest and most technically advanced mobile recording equipment and setup you could find for hire in 1967. The engineers were highly skilled and experienced, the gear from Wally Heider was top of the line as he all but cornered the mobile recording rental/for-hire business in the 60's since he was so damned good at what he did. And if you see photos or still shots of the control room, they even had a TV monitor set up to watch the action on the stage - whereas many mobile operations consisted of the engineers sitting in a plain truck outside the venue.

So I never bought into the "technical difficulties" line, I always thought it was used to cover the poor quality of the performances and the songs - which just wouldn't cut it for a wide, full-concert live release. Which is why they tried to re-record them anyway. If there *were* technical issues, does anyone hear them on the tapes? Or do we hear something the band was hoping exceeded their notions of what they had just played over the course of 2 shows and fell short when they heard the playbacks?

Again, that's not knowing the full story - maybe there was a bad mic somewhere or a tape issue but with Heider's crew and top-of-the-line gear on hand, how would they muck up not only one but TWO live show recordings due to tech issues?

Answer is, they (Heider's crew) probably didn't.

[onkster]

Could somebody please PM me where I might find the best/most complete version of Lei'd? That has both the live and studio stuff together? I've only ever heard the latter...thanks in advance...