Title: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 05:13:35 AM I always feel that there are almost zero nice 1CD best album of BB that covers the entire career. Taking a look at some albums, you'll find Sound of Summer ignores Sunflower-Holland era, which is, to me, one of the most significant era of the BBs. On the other hand, Classics Selected By Brian Wilson doesn't have any song from 15 Big Ones onward as if there is no classic from that point. Warms of the Sun covers 1962(409) to 1986(California Dreamin'), but it have only one song from Sunflower, which is one of the most important BB albums, while having a lot from entirely lesser (even though partly better) Surf's Up. So, I think there's still no career-spanning 1CD compilation of BBs that sums up their career well.
So, I decided to make one - and have struggled with it for quite a while: The Best of The Beach Boys 1963-2012 1. Surfin' USA 2. Surfer Girl 3. Little Deuce Coupe 4. Fun, Fun, Fun 5. Don't Worry Baby 6. I Get Around 7. Kiss Me, Baby 8. Dance, Dance, Dance 9. Help Me, Rhonda 10. California Girls 11. Sloop John B 12. Wouldn't It Be Nice 13. God Only Knows 14. Good Vibrations 15. Darlin' 16. Busy Doin' Nothin' 17. I Can Hear Music 18. Break Away 19. Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) -Al's major (and somehow pretty forgotten) production 20. This Whole World 21. Forever -Dennis' major composition 22. Disney Girls -Bruce's major composition 23. Long Promised Road -Carl's major composition 24. Surf's Up 25. Sail On, Sailor 26. The Night Was So Young -I think this is the most popular song from the album 27. Kokomo -Mike's major co-composition 28. That's Why God Made The Radio There are some points I did with this one: ・Include at least singe composition/production from each member ・Basically one or two songs per album except Pet Sounds(you know why) and Surf's Up(three significant tracks) And ones that I wanted to add but wasn't able to... ・In My Room ・The Warmth of the Sun ・When I Grow Up ・I Just Wasn't Made For These Times ・H&V ・Do It Again ・Slip On Through ・All This Is That ・Had to Phone Ya ・Lady Lynda (Probably instead of Cotton Fields) ・Getcha Back Now, Does anybody have some feedback/other ideas for the definitive 1CD BB best ofs? What if you were to make a 1CD career-spanning best album of The Beach Boys? Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: KDS on January 03, 2018, 05:40:03 AM It's darn near impossible to do a single disc collection.
I like your list though I'd put Warmth of the Sun and In My Room instead of Busy Doin Nothin and The Night Was So Young. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: rab2591 on January 03, 2018, 05:42:23 AM I feel like, for every “best of compilation, deciding the songs after “Good Vibrations” is a really hard task. My thoughts:
- glad you used “I Can Hear Music” instead of “Do It Again” to represent the 20/20 era. I feel like the former does such an amazing job at encapsulating what made The Beach Boys so great. It’s got Carl’s amazing lead, killer background vocals, and a really rhythmic and chill backing track. It’s a track more likely to make people interested in the latter years than “Do It Again”, IMO. - I would ditch “Disney Girls” and instead add “Getcha Back” later in the list. This messes up your “one composition by each member” idea, but I feel like “Getcha Back” really deserves to be on the list, precisely because it represents the BB85 album (which I find to be one of their most underrated albums)...and because I don’t think “Disney Girls” is all that great (though I do enjoy hearing it on the Surfs Up album). That being said, I understand you have to have a song composed by Bruce so this won’t fly. Looking forward to seeing what other people say about this topic. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 06:04:06 AM I feel like, for every “best of compilation, deciding the songs after “Good Vibrations” is a really hard task. My thoughts: How about switching Busy Doin' Nothin' and Disney with Friends and Deirdre, then add Getcha Back and eliminate Little Deuce Coupe (for Surfer Girl album is already represented by the title track)? This way you can add something that represents BB85 while keeping Bruce's track.- glad you used “I Can Hear Music” instead of “Do It Again” to represent the 20/20 era. I feel like the former does such an amazing job at encapsulating what made The Beach Boys so great. It’s got Carl’s amazing lead, killer background vocals, and a really rhythmic and chill backing track. It’s a track more likely to make people interested in the latter years than “Do It Again”, IMO. - I would ditch “Disney Girls” and instead add “Getcha Back” later in the list. This messes up your “one composition by each member” idea, but I feel like “Getcha Back” really deserves to be on the list, precisely because it represents the BB85 album (which I find to be one of their most underrated albums)...and because I don’t think “Disney Girls” is all that great (though I do enjoy hearing it on the Surfs Up album). That being said, I understand you have to have a song composed by Bruce so this won’t fly. Looking forward to seeing what other people say about this topic. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: rab2591 on January 03, 2018, 06:57:22 AM I feel like, for every “best of compilation, deciding the songs after “Good Vibrations” is a really hard task. My thoughts: How about switching Busy Doin' Nothin' and Disney with Friends and Deirdre, then add Getcha Back and eliminate Little Deuce Coupe (for Surfer Girl album is already represented by the title track)? This way you can add something that represents BB85 while keeping Bruce's track.- glad you used “I Can Hear Music” instead of “Do It Again” to represent the 20/20 era. I feel like the former does such an amazing job at encapsulating what made The Beach Boys so great. It’s got Carl’s amazing lead, killer background vocals, and a really rhythmic and chill backing track. It’s a track more likely to make people interested in the latter years than “Do It Again”, IMO. - I would ditch “Disney Girls” and instead add “Getcha Back” later in the list. This messes up your “one composition by each member” idea, but I feel like “Getcha Back” really deserves to be on the list, precisely because it represents the BB85 album (which I find to be one of their most underrated albums)...and because I don’t think “Disney Girls” is all that great (though I do enjoy hearing it on the Surfs Up album). That being said, I understand you have to have a song composed by Bruce so this won’t fly. Looking forward to seeing what other people say about this topic. That’s a good compromise! But it’s your compilation list so you should definitely keep your original or whatever you like best. Deidre is one of my favorite beach boys tracks, those flutes and the chorus, it’s just one of the most perfect songs from that era. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 03, 2018, 07:10:14 AM Good idea! Personally I wouldn't be too fussed about including songs by all members as there is only so much space. Mine isn't too different but it is my attempt to give a list of tracks that is representative of the entire career.
1. Surfin' USA 2. Surfer Girl 3. Little Deuce Coupe 4. In My Room 5. Fun, Fun, Fun 6. The Warmth of the Sun 7. I Get Around 8. Don't Worry Baby 9. When I Grow Up 10. Help Me, Rhonda 11. California Girls 12. Sloop John B 13. Wouldn't It Be Nice 14. God Only Knows 15. Good Vibrations 16. Heroes and Villains (the Smile mix from the SS/WH 2-fer) 17. Darlin' 18. Time To Get Alone 19. I Can Hear Music 20. Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) 21. Forever 22. Surf's Up 23. Sail On, Sailor 24. The Night Was So Young 25. Good Timin' 26. Getcha Back 27. Kokomo 28. That's Why God Made The Radio Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: HeyJude on January 03, 2018, 07:13:51 AM They have far too many albums, and too many hits coupled with too many "key" tracks, to really make a career-spanning single-disc collection that doesn't ignore a huge hunk of their career.
So as far as I'm concerned, "Sounds of Summer" or "Endless Summer" or even "Greatest Hits Vol. 1" serve a good enough purpose, and after that we really have to tread into 2-CD territory to really start serving *both* main purposes of compilations: To include hits and well-known tracks, and be a decent survey of a band's *entire* career. Otherwise, arbitrary rules have to start being used. For instance, "GH Vol. 3: Best of the Brother Years" set out to include the single release attached to each album. Because this only focused on 1970-1986, there was still room to include some key album tracks as well. But it also meant including "Honkin' Down the Highway" and "Peggy Sue" while not including, say, "All This Is That" or "The Night Was So Young" (or fill in the name of a few strong songs that might be more substantive than something like "Peggy Sue", which I don't dislike). While, depending on the mood, I sometimes enjoy programming compilation ideas, I remain a bit baffled as to why hardcore fans are super fascinated with them. Casual fans are served more than well enough by what's out there on the market, and if you're a hardcore fan and you're trying to get someone you know "into" the band, you're probably going to make them your own custom compilation (or point them to Spotify playlists, etc.). Don't get me wrong, I've caught myself saying "Hey, why is 'Solar System' on this compilation instead of 'Santa Ana Winds'" (random example), and then I realize that I have all of these albums (most several times over), and no casual fan is going to live or die by buying "Made in California" and having "Had to Phone Ya" but not "Somewhere Near Japan" or "Where I Belong." Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Tony S on January 03, 2018, 07:21:56 AM Pretty good selections, but I would add All This Is That, and a persona favorite of mine that's often overlooked, Where I belong from Beach Boys 85. Vocals are shimmerring on that one, especially Carl and Al.
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 03, 2018, 07:27:33 AM While, depending on the mood, I sometimes enjoy programming compilation ideas, I remain a bit baffled as to why hardcore fans are super fascinated with them. Oh to be blessed with not having OCD. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: NateRuvin on January 03, 2018, 07:42:26 AM This is the one disc I would use to summarize The Beach Boys career, and to get someone into the band.
1. Surfin USA 2. Surfer Girl 3. I Get Around 4. Little Honda 5. The Warmth Of The Sun 6. Do You Wanna Dance? 7. Kiss Me, Baby 8. Don't Worry Baby 9. California Girls 10. Help Me, Rhonda 11. Barbara Ann 12. Wouldn't It Be Nice 13. Here Today 14. God Only Knows 15. Good Vibrations 13. Heroes And Villains 14. Cabinessence 15. Surf's Up 16. Wild Honey 17. Aren't You Glad 18. Darlin' 19. Friends 20. Time To Get Alone 21. All I Wanna Do 22. Deirdre 23. Forever 24. Sail On Sailor 25. The Night Was So Young 26. Getcha Back 27. Kokomo 28. Summer's Gone Things I wish I could have put in: Please Let Me Wonder, Cottonfields, Sloop John B, Little Deuce Coupe, Strange Things Happen, Caroline No Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: southbay on January 03, 2018, 08:08:06 AM I always feel that the group's later work is overlooked in compilations, which is one reason a 1 CD package is impossible. I would try to include the following:
Good Timin Getcha Back Kokomo SNJ Live SIP from Wembley TWGMTR PCH/Summer's Gone Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: bsten on January 03, 2018, 10:02:41 AM Tried doing a pure "best of" comp, but impossible without including several hits...
Ok here goes: The warmth of the sun In the back of my mind California girls Wouldn't it be nice That's not me God only knows I just wasn't made for these times Good vibrations Heroes and villains Vegetables Let the wind blow Little Bird Be with me Time to get alone Cabinessence This whole world Our sweet Love Cool cool water Long promised road Disney girls (1957) Feel flows Til I die Surf's up You need a mess of help to stand alone All this is that Cuddle up Sail in sailor Lady Lynda Love surrounds me Surfin' USA In my room Please let me wonder Busy doin' nothin' Slip on through Had to phone ya The night was so young My Diane Match point of our love I'm so lonely Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 03, 2018, 10:58:05 AM Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection.
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Jim V. on January 03, 2018, 11:32:08 AM Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection. Interesting that your write this SMiLE Brian, because a few weeks ago I thought about starting a thread talking about how great the track selection on Endless Summer was. If you could squeeze "Please Let Me Wonder" and "Lonely Sea" onto there, I think it would make a nearly perfect overview of their '62 thru '65 era. Also, I would say that a great trio of purchases would be Pet Sounds, Endless Summer and Classics selected by Brian Wilson. Having all these titles in one's collection what give you Brian's best album, a large chunk of their greatest early work, and then later classics like "Heroes And Villains", "Surf's Up", "'Til I Die", "This Whole World" and others. However, only having those three discs also means you miss out on some of my very favorites like "Please Let Me Wonder", "Good Timin'" and "Cool, Cool Water" so I suppose ultimately things always get tricky. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 03, 2018, 11:38:06 AM I forgot about the Classics album, that one's BW deep cuts are perfect for a general audience. Endless Summer was just genius in the way it trimmed the "fat" of BBs filler tracks on previous Capitol GHs releases. (No Mike, it wasn't your concept album) >:D
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: KDS on January 03, 2018, 11:39:47 AM Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection. Interesting that your write this SMiLE Brian, because a few weeks ago I thought about starting a thread talking about how great the track selection on Endless Summer was. If you could squeeze "Please Let Me Wonder" and "Lonely Sea" onto there, I think it would make a nearly perfect overview of their '62 thru '65 era. Also, I would say that a great trio of purchases would be Pet Sounds, Endless Summer and Classics selected by Brian Wilson. Having all these titles in one's collection what give you Brian's best album, a large chunk of their greatest early work, and then later classics like "Heroes And Villains", "Surf's Up", "'Til I Die", "This Whole World" and others. However, only having those three discs also means you miss out on some of my very favorites like "Please Let Me Wonder", "Good Timin'" and "Cool, Cool Water" so I suppose ultimately things always get tricky. I'd say Sounds of Summer, Warmth of the Sun, and Pet Sounds. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: NateRuvin on January 03, 2018, 12:13:46 PM What about a single disc of our personal favorites?
1. All I Wanna Do 2. Here Today 3. Lady Lynda 4. Deidre 5. Surfin USA 6. California Girls 7. Aren't You Glad 8. The Warmth Of The Sun 9. Little Honda 10. Kiss Me Baby 11. Fun, Fun, Fun 12. God Only Knows 13. Time To Get Alone 14. Do It Again 15. Big Sur (4/4) 16. Forever 17. Til I Die 18. Surf's Up 19. Here She Comes 20. Strange Things Happen 21. It's Over Now 22. The Night Was So Young 23. Lady Lynda 24. Good Timin 25. Let The Wind Blow 26. All This Is That 27. You're Still A Mystery 28. Good Vibrations Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Lee Marshall on January 03, 2018, 02:39:14 PM So...There has to be what? Something representing of all the 'boys'? Why? At least 1 song from every album? Except for Surfin' Safari and SMiLE? Ya ya...I know the songs you picked from 20/20 and Surf's Up cover SMiLE. But really? Not so much.
So let's see...I'm gonna do this with NO rules...except for 1. You can fit 79.57 worth of music onto a standard cd....you know...with CD quality wave files. I'll do my best to cover the whole span but I'm not giving it equal representation because the body of work doesn't deserve to be restricted by the inclusion of sub-par entries. I DO appreciate Best of the Beach Boys over Greatest hits because their BEST SONGS were often NOT the 'hits'. So...Here goes. Wait a second. NO GOOD. I have greatest hits/best of CDs here in my house which are 2 disc sets. The WHO, the Moody Blues, the Doors, Pink Floyd...heck YES is a 3 disc set. No. I think we can all agree that the 'boys' deserve to at least be equal in terms of coverage to these other fellas. So I'm going with a 2 discs in one jewel case release just like the Bee Gees or Grand Funk...or the Stones [who cheated and used a box] The Beach Boys Were GREAT Disc 1. 1. 409 2. Surfin' U.S.A. 3. Farmer's Daughter 4. Catch a Wave 5. In My Room 6. Ballad of Ol' Betsy 7. No-Go Showboat 8. Fun Fun Fun 9. Warmth of the Sun 10. Don't Worry Baby 11. Keep An Eye On Summer 12. I Get Around 13. All Summer Long 14. Hushabye 15. Little St. Nick [the tinkley bell version] 16. Don't Hurt My Little Sister 17. Please Let Me Wonder 18. Kiss Me Baby 19. California Girls, 20. Let Him Run Wild 21. Salt Lake City 22. Sloop John B. 23. God Only Knows 24. Wouldn't It Be Nice 25. Don't Talk, Put Your Head on my Shoulder 26. I Know There's an Answer 27. Good Vibrations 28. Wind Chimes [SMiLE version] 29. Heroes and Villains [Smile version with Gee intro] 30. Cabinessence [SMiLE] 31. Surf's Up [SMiLE] That's it....Times up for disc 1. The Beach Boys Were Great Disc 2. 1. Wild Honey 2. Country Air 3. Here Comes the Night 4. Let The Wind Blow 5. Meant For You/Friends 6. Little Bird 7. Busy Doin' Nothing 8. I Can Hear Music 9. I Went to Sleep 10. Time to Get Alone 11. Our Prayer 12. It's About Time 13. Add Some Music To Your Day 14. This Whole World 15. Our Sweet Love 16. Forever 17. 'Til I Die 18. Feel Flows 19. River Song [actually recorded in 1971...separate from the rest of Pacific Ocean Blue] 20. All This is That 21. Sail On Sailor 22. Only With You 23. Had to Phone Ya 24. Pitter Patter 25. Good Timin' 26. Sunshine 27. Pacific Coast Highway/Summers Gone. That's it. Time's up. The 2 discs are full. No Kokomo. Brian wanted to sing on it. No? O.K. THAT wasn't really the Beach Boys then...now was it? Besides...it's on every dime a dozen greatest hit pack the inquiring mind already has. THIS one was for people who wanted to do more than merely scratch the surface. Although some of their hits are all time classic greats and they bear repeating on THIS 2 disc set. After 1973? Money ruled. Artistry took a back seat. Choices became limited...by the limit of the self-appointed leader's creativity. The proof is easy to hear...here. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: B.E. on January 03, 2018, 03:55:28 PM NateRuvin, which version of It's Over Now would you include on your personal favorites disc? Good Vibrations: 30 Years of the Beach Boys, Made in California, or the IJWMFTT demo? Also, you included Lady Lynda twice...
Add Some, 2 discs and still no Help Me, Rhonda? Did it even come close? I like that you included Little Saint Nick, though. Generally speaking, I think people are unnecessarily reluctant to include seasonal songs on compilations. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 04:42:59 PM Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection. I agree Endless Summer is nice collection, but I have to disagree about Pet Sounds. Pet Sounds, as far as I know, is the worse, if not the worst, way to be introduced to the Beach Boys discography. It's a great album, but there are two reasons why I think it's inappropriate for non-fans to get started:1. You need to get a certain context behind Pet Sounds to understand the album. In spite of its static presence on "all-time greatest albums" lists by rock magazine, the sound of Pet Sounds, at the first listen, never sounds like rock, and sounds way too complicated for non-fans to enjoy it immediately. The word "immediately" is important, since unless they soon will learn to enjoy the album, they would eventually find it "boring" with only several listens and give up on it. IMO, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Sunflower all would be better starter. 2. In case the person you recommended BB liked/loved Pet Sounds, then the problem is that what they choose next - get back to the first album, or move on to the next album. Big No. Both Surfin' Safari and Smiley Smile is not a good starter for those who "only" love PS, and I think you already know why. Probably the last proper album, Summer Days would work for them, but even with that album I can see some fail to get it. So, if you want to introduce someone to the BB with one comp and one original albums, either Endless Summer or Sound of Summer, and either All Summer Long and Sunflower are the good choices, in my opinion. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 04:59:20 PM So...There has to be what? Something representing of all the 'boys'? Why? At least 1 song from every album? Except for Surfin' Safari and SMiLE? Ya ya...I know the songs you picked from 20/20 and Surf's Up cover SMiLE. But really? Not so much. You're probably right. 2CD chronological ordered best of like yours will be greatly appreciated. I like your selection, but I decided to make one:So let's see...I'm gonna do this with NO rules...except for 1. You can fit 79.57 worth of music onto a standard cd....you know...with CD quality wave files. I'll do my best to cover the whole span but I'm not giving it equal representation because the body of work doesn't deserve to be restricted by the inclusion of sub-par entries. I DO appreciate Best of the Beach Boys over Greatest hits because their BEST SONGS were often NOT the 'hits'. So...Here goes. Wait a second. NO GOOD. I have greatest hits/best of CDs here in my house which are 2 disc sets. The WHO, the Moody Blues, the Doors, Pink Floyd...heck YES is a 3 disc set. No. I think we can all agree that the 'boys' deserve to at least be equal in terms of coverage to these other fellas. So I'm going with a 2 discs in one jewel case release just like the Bee Gees or Grand Funk...or the Stones [who cheated and used a box] The Ultimate Best of The Beach Boys Disc 1 1. Surfin' USA 2. Surfer Girl 3. Little Deuce Coupe 4. In My Room 5. Be True To Your School 6. Fun, Fun, Fun 7. Don't Worry Baby 8. The Warmth of the Sun 9. I Get Around 10. Wendy 11. Dance, Dance, Dance 12. When I Grow Up 13. Kiss Me, Baby 14. Do You Wanna Dance 15. Help Me, Rhonda 16. California Girls 17. Let Him Run Wild 18. Sloop John B 19. The Little Girl I Once Knew 20. Wouldn't It Be Nice 21. God Only Knows 22. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times 23. Caroline, No 24. Good Vibrations 25. Heroes And Villains 26. With Me Tonight 27. Darlin' 28. Friends 29. Busy Doin' Nothin' 30. Do It Again 31. I Can Hear Music Disc 2 1. Break Away 2. Cotton Fields 3. Soulful Old Man Sunshine 4. This Whole World 5. Deirdre 6. All I Wanna Do 7. Forever 8. Disney Girls 9. Long Promised Road 10. 'Til I Die 11. Surf's Up 12. (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again 13. All This Is That 14. Sail On, Sailor 15. The Trader 16. It's OK 17. The Night Was So Young 18. My Diane 19. Still I Dream of It 20. Lady Lynda 21. Goin' On 22. Getcha Back 23. Kokomo 24. That's Why God Made The Radio I think this is more than great for those who're willing to listen to the BB's. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Uncle Walter on January 03, 2018, 05:18:37 PM IMO the best introduction you could give someone to the Beach Boys is via the Endless Summer and Spirit of America compilations. They cover so much ground and, IMO, give the listener more than enough context to proceed to Pet Sounds, Smile, and eventually the late Capitol era and Brother era material. The Beach Boys are probably easiest to digest and understand if you listen chronologically.
Here's my track listing of the most objective best-of compilation I can think of, without imparting too much of my own personal taste: 1. Surfin' USA 2. Surfer Girl 3. Little Deuce Coupe 4. In My Room 5. Fun, Fun, Fun 6. The Warmth of the Sun 7. I Get Around 8. Don't Worry Baby 9. Please Let Me Wonder 10. Dance, Dance, Dance 11. Little Saint Nick (possibly swap with Good To My Baby) 12. Help Me Rhonda 13. California Girls 14. Wouldn't It Be Nice 15. God Only Knows 16. Good Vibrations 17. Heroes and Villains (Cantina version) 18. Cabin Essence (Smile mono mix) 19. Surf's Up (Surf's Up album mix with Carl lead) 20. Wild Honey 21. Darlin' 22. Friends 23. I Can Hear Music 24. Forever 25. Long Promised Road 26. Til I Die 27. Sail On Sailor 28. The Night Was So Young 29. Kokomo Here's my single disc "personal favorites" mix: 1. Surfer Girl 2. The Warmth of the Sun 3. Don't Worry Baby 4. Good to My Baby 5. Please Let Me Wonder 6. Kiss Me Baby 7. Help Me Rhonda 8. California Girls 9. Wouldn't It Be Nice 10. God Only Knows 11. Good Vibrations 12. Heroes and Villains (Cantina version) 13. Cabin Essence (Smile mono mix) 14. Wonderful 15. Surf's Up (Carl lead mix) 16. Darlin' 17. I'd Love Just Once To See You 18. Here Comes The Night 19. I Can Hear Music 20. Slip On Through 21. Forever 22. Long Promised Road 23. Day in the Life of a Tree 24. Til I Die 25. Let Us Go On This Way 26. Honkin' Down the Highway 27. The Night Was So Young 28. It's Over Now (2012 mix) 29. My Diane (single track vocal/"demo") Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: B.E. on January 03, 2018, 05:21:16 PM Watamushi, Still I Dream Of It, nice :)
I was just listening to the studio version earlier today and it's far better than I remember. There's no reason it shouldn't have been released at the time. Leaving it off MIU and LA was a mistake. I could even hear it on Keeping the Summer Alive if a Bambu track or two joined it. I don't even think it was considered for Ten Years of Harmony. Some minor touching up would have been all it needed, IMO. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 05:31:15 PM Watamushi, Still I Dream Of It, nice :) Yeah, Still I Dream of It really should have been released while it was a new track. And I think it could've been more than awesome to see Frank Sinatra sing it.I was just listening to the studio version earlier today and it's far better than I remember. There's no reason it shouldn't have been released at the time. Leaving it off MIU and LA was a mistake. I could even hear it on Keeping the Summer Alive if a Bambu track or two joined it. I don't even think it was considered for Ten Years of Harmony. Some minor touching up would have been all it needed, IMO. As for what were considered or not for Ten Years of Harmony, petsite posted a detailed document on it a little while ago on PSF: http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans (http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans) Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: B.E. on January 03, 2018, 05:40:45 PM Watamushi, Still I Dream Of It, nice :) Yeah, Still I Dream of It really should have been released while it was a new track. And I think it could've been more than awesome to see Frank Sinatra sing it.I was just listening to the studio version earlier today and it's far better than I remember. There's no reason it shouldn't have been released at the time. Leaving it off MIU and LA was a mistake. I could even hear it on Keeping the Summer Alive if a Bambu track or two joined it. I don't even think it was considered for Ten Years of Harmony. Some minor touching up would have been all it needed, IMO. As for what were considered or not for Ten Years of Harmony, petsite posted a detailed document on it a little while ago on PSF: http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans (http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans) Yeah, that write-up is what I was thinking back to. I still don't get Carl's position on the photo and Bruce. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 05:42:43 PM Here's my single disc "personal favorites" mix I made "personal favorites" compilation before, which has very odd selection, I guess:Watamushi's Favorite BB Track: 1. Surfin' USA 2. Don't Worry Baby 3. I Get Around 4. Kiss Me, Baby 5. California Girls 6. You Still Believe In Me 7. Here Today 8. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times 9. Good Vibrations [SMiLE Sessions Mix] 10. Wonderful [SMiLE Sessions Mix] 11. Surf's Up [SMilE Sessions Mix] 12. Vegetables [Smiley Smile Ver.] 13. Busy Doin' Nothin' 14. I Can Hear Music 15. Break Away 16. Slip On Through 17. This Whole World 18. Deirdre 19. Long Promised Road 20. 'Til I Die 21. Only With You 22. Crack at Your Love 23. That Same Song 24. The Night Was So Young 25. On Broadway 26. Soul Seachin' 27. Still I Dream of It Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Lonely Summer on January 03, 2018, 08:41:39 PM I just find this too hard to do. The hits have to be there, but how do you fit in as many hits as space allows and still have room for some personal favorites? Anything hit-oriented is always going to rely heavily on 62-67 tracks. After that, it goes more to key tracks and personal favs, and I really feel like that needs to be a separate disc. There are a lot of bands that are served well by a single disc comp, but not the BB's.
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Rocky Raccoon on January 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM Skipped over some albums and some hit singles but I think a good overview.
1. Surfin’ USA 2. Shut Down 3. Surfer Girl 4. In My Room 5. Fun, Fun, Fun 6. Don’t Worry Baby 7. The Warmth of the Sun 8. I Get Around 9. All Summer Long 10. When I Grow Up (To Be a Man) 11. Please Let Me Wonder 12. Help Me, Rhonda 13. The Little Girl I Once Knew 14. Wouldn’t It Be Nice 15. God Only Knows 16. Good Vibrations 17. Heroes and Villains 18. Wild Honey 19. Darlin’ 20. Time to Get Alone 21. Break Away 22. ‘Til I Die 23. Surf’s Up 24. Feel Flows 25. Sail On, Sailor 26. The Night Was So Young 27. Good Timin’ 28. Angel Come Home 29. Soul Searchin’ Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: KDS on January 04, 2018, 05:19:24 AM I just find this too hard to do. The hits have to be there, but how do you fit in as many hits as space allows and still have room for some personal favorites? Anything hit-oriented is always going to rely heavily on 62-67 tracks. After that, it goes more to key tracks and personal favs, and I really feel like that needs to be a separate disc. There are a lot of bands that are served well by a single disc comp, but not the BB's. That's why I think Warmth of the Sun works perfectly with Sounds of Summer. SOS has all of the big hits, while WOTS has some of the hits that didn't make SOS, as well as fan favorites like Friends, Feel Flows, Til I Die, etc. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 04, 2018, 06:16:55 AM Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection. I agree Endless Summer is nice collection, but I have to disagree about Pet Sounds. Pet Sounds, as far as I know, is the worse, if not the worst, way to be introduced to the Beach Boys discography. It's a great album, but there are two reasons why I think it's inappropriate for non-fans to get started:1. You need to get a certain context behind Pet Sounds to understand the album. In spite of its static presence on "all-time greatest albums" lists by rock magazine, the sound of Pet Sounds, at the first listen, never sounds like rock, and sounds way too complicated for non-fans to enjoy it immediately. The word "immediately" is important, since unless they soon will learn to enjoy the album, they would eventually find it "boring" with only several listens and give up on it. IMO, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Sunflower all would be better starter. 2. In case the person you recommended BB liked/loved Pet Sounds, then the problem is that what they choose next - get back to the first album, or move on to the next album. Big No. Both Surfin' Safari and Smiley Smile is not a good starter for those who "only" love PS, and I think you already know why. Probably the last proper album, Summer Days would work for them, but even with that album I can see some fail to get it. So, if you want to introduce someone to the BB with one comp and one original albums, either Endless Summer or Sound of Summer, and either All Summer Long and Sunflower are the good choices, in my opinion. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: sensiblechuckle on January 04, 2018, 08:17:13 AM I included one song from every album (cancelled or otherwise) outside of concert albums, although I added singles that are more thought of as singles than part of an album (like Good Vibrations, Kokomo, and Breakaway)
1. Surfin Safari 2. Shut Down 3. In My Room 4. Little Deuce Coupe 5. Fun, Fun, Fun 6. All Summer Long 7. Little Saint Nick 8. In the Back of My Mind 9. Help Me, Rhonda 10. Barbara Ann 11. God Only Knows 12. Good Vibrations 13. Surf's Up (Smile) 14. Vega-Tables (Smiley Smile) 15. Darlin' 16. Busy Doin' Nothing 17. Time to Get Alone 18. Breakaway 19. Tears in the Morning 20. Long Promised Road 21. Here She Comes 22. California Saga: California 23. It's O.K. 24. The Night Was So Young 25. Still I Dream Of It 26. Matchpoint of Our Love 27. Baby Blue 28. Goin' On 29. Getcha Back 30. Kokomo 31. Somewhere Near Japan 32. Strange Things Happen 33. Soul Searchin' 34. Long Tall Texan 35. That's Why God Made the Radio Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Uncle Walter on January 04, 2018, 11:34:21 AM Here is my concept of a 2-disc "The Story of the Beach Boys" compilation, one that showcases mostly hits with some deep cuts sprinkled in to give a comprehensive look at the band's history:
DISC 1: 1. Surfin' Safari 2. Surfin' USA 3. Surfer Girl 4. Little Deuce Coupe 5. In My Room 6. Fun, Fun, Fun 7. The Warmth of the Sun 8. I Get Around 9. Dance, Dance, Dance 10. Help Me Rhonda (single version) 11. Kiss Me Baby 12. In the Back of My Mind 13. Barbara Ann 14. Don't Worry Baby 15. California Girls 16. Wouldn't It Be Nice 17. That's Not Me 18. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times 19. God Only Knows 20. Caroline, No 21. Good Vibrations 22. Heroes and Villains (Cantina version) 23. Vege-Tables (Smile mix) 24. Little Pad 25. Wild Honey 26. Aren't You Glad 27. Darlin' 28. Friends 29. I Can Hear Music 30. Cabinessence (20/20 stereo mix) Runtime - 1:19:10 DISC 2: 1. Slip On Through 2. Add Some Music to Your Day 3. Forever 4. 'Til I Die 5. Surf's Up (Carl lead mix) 6. Marcella 7. Sail On Sailor 8. California Saga: California 9. Funky Pretty 10. Rock and Roll Music 11. Roller Skating Child 12. Solar System 13. The Night Was So Young 14. Life Is For The Living (Carl acapella intro mix) 15. It's Over Now (2012 mix) 16. Still I Dream Of It (album version) 17. My Diane (Single tracked vocal mix) 18. Hey Little Tomboy (MIU mix) 19. Good Timin' 20. Santa Ana Winds 21. Getcha Back 22. Kokomo 23. Strange World 24. From There to Back Again 25. Pacific Coast Highway 26. Summer's Gone Runtime - 1:18:19 Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: NateRuvin on January 04, 2018, 11:36:54 AM B.E. ,
Whoops, didn't mean to include Lady Lynda twice, though I do love that song! And my favorite version is the one from Made In California Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: GhostyTMRS on January 04, 2018, 02:02:54 PM The "..Classics Selected By Brian Wilson" CD does an excellent job. Sometimes when these collections stop at a certain point in the group's history, it's doing them a favor. ;D
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 04, 2018, 04:38:28 PM Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection. I agree Endless Summer is nice collection, but I have to disagree about Pet Sounds. Pet Sounds, as far as I know, is the worse, if not the worst, way to be introduced to the Beach Boys discography. It's a great album, but there are two reasons why I think it's inappropriate for non-fans to get started:1. You need to get a certain context behind Pet Sounds to understand the album. In spite of its static presence on "all-time greatest albums" lists by rock magazine, the sound of Pet Sounds, at the first listen, never sounds like rock, and sounds way too complicated for non-fans to enjoy it immediately. The word "immediately" is important, since unless they soon will learn to enjoy the album, they would eventually find it "boring" with only several listens and give up on it. IMO, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Sunflower all would be better starter. 2. In case the person you recommended BB liked/loved Pet Sounds, then the problem is that what they choose next - get back to the first album, or move on to the next album. Big No. Both Surfin' Safari and Smiley Smile is not a good starter for those who "only" love PS, and I think you already know why. Probably the last proper album, Summer Days would work for them, but even with that album I can see some fail to get it. So, if you want to introduce someone to the BB with one comp and one original albums, either Endless Summer or Sound of Summer, and either All Summer Long and Sunflower are the good choices, in my opinion. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Wata on January 04, 2018, 05:07:40 PM The "..Classics Selected By Brian Wilson" CD does an excellent job. Sometimes when these collections stop at a certain point in the group's history, it's doing them a favor. ;D It's a nice compilation, but my only concern is that it doesn't present non-Brian works at all so that it could give people wrong understanding of the BB career: Brian =The Beach Boys. Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 08, 2018, 04:08:03 PM If I made such thing, I'd include every favorite song - f.ex. "At My Window", "Good To My Baby", "10 Little Indians", "Wind Chimes" (Smiley), "Take A Load Off Your Feet". It's logical that CD would be sth. I'd like listening to.
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Alex on May 09, 2018, 10:09:08 AM Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs.
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: nach0king on May 09, 2018, 06:20:57 PM Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs. I think the idea is to make a CD for the casual fan, giving them the hits and then one or two extras they might not have heard. Then if they get hooked they can dig deeper. Here's my attempt. Not even going to bother listing all the tracks I wanted to include but couldn't. 1 Surfin' Safari 2 Surfin' USA 3 Little Deuce Coupe 4 In My Room 5 I Get Around 6 All Summer Long 7 Wendy 8 When I Grow Up 9 California Girls 10 Help Me Rhonda (single) 11 Wouldn't It Be Nice 12 God Only Knows 13 Caroline, No 14 Good Vibrations 15 Little Pad 16 Wild Honey 17 Darlin' 18 Do It Again 19 This Whole World 20 Forever 21 Marcella 22 Good Time 23 Good Timin' 24 Goin' On 25 Getcha Back 26 Somewhear Near Japan 27 That's Why God Made The Radio 28 Summer's Gone Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 11, 2018, 04:27:19 AM There IS perfect career-spanning comp - Sounds Of Summer. :3d Why can't everybody list their fave tracks instead as single CD? It seems people dread listing random fave tracks & go with banal "usual suspects" hit songs. Besides, the faves comp CAN be career-spanning too.
Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Sangheon on May 16, 2018, 07:08:10 AM Here is my concept of "Sounds of Summer vo.2".
1 And Your Dream Come True 2 Good Timin' 3 Night Wwas So Young 4 Kiss Me Baby 5 Surf's Up 6 Island Fever (UK version) 7 Add Some Music 8 Then I Kissed Her 9 Breakaway (alternate version) 10 Girls on The Beach 11 Disney Girls 12 Cotton Fields (stereo single version) 13 Sail on Sailor 14 This Whole World 15 All I Wanna Do (the Sunflower track) 16 Till I Die 17 Aii This Is That !8 Why Do Fools Fall in Love (with a piano intro) 19 The Little Gril I Once Knew (alternate stereo version) 20 Shelter 21 Forever 22 All Summer Long 23 Your Summer Dream 24 Summer in Paradise (live version with the Knebworth live intro) Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Cabinessenceking on May 16, 2018, 09:38:01 AM Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs. the only realistic answer ;D Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... Post by: Alex on May 17, 2018, 12:56:00 PM Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs. the only realistic answer ;D I'd have to include a minimum of 5 tracks from every album, not just hits but also standout album cuts, ecery single album would have to be represented-solo records and obscure stuff (such as Mike and Dean, Sunkist album, Salute to Nascar, Songs From Here and Back) included, and don't forget the unfinished/unreleased albums, standout vault/bootleg tracks... |