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Title: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 05:13:35 AM
I always feel that there are almost zero nice 1CD best album of BB that covers the entire career. Taking a look at some albums, you'll find Sound of Summer ignores Sunflower-Holland era, which is, to me, one of the most significant era of the BBs. On the other hand, Classics Selected By Brian Wilson doesn't have any song from 15 Big Ones onward as if there is no classic from that point.  Warms of the Sun covers 1962(409) to 1986(California Dreamin'), but it have only one song from Sunflower, which is one of the most important BB albums, while having a lot from entirely lesser (even though partly better) Surf's Up. So, I think there's still no career-spanning 1CD compilation of BBs that sums up their career well.

So, I decided to make one - and have struggled with it for quite a while:

The Best of The Beach Boys 1963-2012

1. Surfin' USA
2. Surfer Girl
3. Little Deuce Coupe
4. Fun, Fun, Fun
5. Don't Worry Baby
6.  I Get Around
7. Kiss Me, Baby
8. Dance, Dance, Dance
9. Help Me, Rhonda
10. California Girls
11. Sloop John B
12. Wouldn't It Be Nice
13. God Only Knows
14. Good Vibrations
15. Darlin'
16. Busy Doin' Nothin'
17. I Can Hear Music
18. Break Away
19. Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) -Al's major (and somehow pretty forgotten) production
20. This Whole World
21. Forever -Dennis' major composition
22. Disney Girls -Bruce's major composition
23. Long Promised Road -Carl's major composition
24. Surf's Up
25. Sail On, Sailor
26. The Night Was So Young -I think this is the most popular song from the album
27. Kokomo -Mike's major co-composition
28. That's Why God Made The Radio

There are some points I did with this one:
・Include at least singe composition/production from each member
・Basically one or two songs per album except Pet Sounds(you know why) and Surf's Up(three significant tracks)

And ones that I wanted to add but wasn't able to...
・In My Room
・The Warmth of the Sun
・When I Grow Up
・I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
・H&V
・Do It Again
・Slip On Through
・All This Is That
・Had to Phone Ya
・Lady Lynda (Probably instead of Cotton Fields)
・Getcha Back

Now, Does anybody have some feedback/other ideas for the definitive 1CD BB best ofs? What if you were to make a 1CD career-spanning best album of The Beach Boys?


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: KDS on January 03, 2018, 05:40:03 AM
It's darn near impossible to do a single disc collection. 

I like your list though I'd put Warmth of the Sun and In My Room instead of Busy Doin Nothin and The Night Was So Young. 


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: rab2591 on January 03, 2018, 05:42:23 AM
I feel like, for every “best of compilation, deciding the songs after “Good Vibrations” is a really hard task. My thoughts:

- glad you used “I Can Hear Music” instead of “Do It Again” to represent the 20/20 era. I feel like the former does such an amazing job at encapsulating what made The Beach Boys so great. It’s got Carl’s amazing lead, killer background vocals, and a really rhythmic and chill backing track. It’s a track more likely to make people interested in the latter years than “Do It Again”, IMO.

- I would ditch “Disney Girls” and instead add “Getcha Back” later in the list. This messes up your “one composition by each member” idea, but I feel like “Getcha Back” really deserves to be on the list, precisely because it represents the BB85 album (which I find to be one of their most underrated albums)...and because I don’t think “Disney Girls” is all that great (though I do enjoy hearing it on the Surfs Up album). That being said, I understand you have to have a song composed by Bruce so this won’t fly.

Looking forward to seeing what other people say about this topic.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 06:04:06 AM
I feel like, for every “best of compilation, deciding the songs after “Good Vibrations” is a really hard task. My thoughts:

- glad you used “I Can Hear Music” instead of “Do It Again” to represent the 20/20 era. I feel like the former does such an amazing job at encapsulating what made The Beach Boys so great. It’s got Carl’s amazing lead, killer background vocals, and a really rhythmic and chill backing track. It’s a track more likely to make people interested in the latter years than “Do It Again”, IMO.

- I would ditch “Disney Girls” and instead add “Getcha Back” later in the list. This messes up your “one composition by each member” idea, but I feel like “Getcha Back” really deserves to be on the list, precisely because it represents the BB85 album (which I find to be one of their most underrated albums)...and because I don’t think “Disney Girls” is all that great (though I do enjoy hearing it on the Surfs Up album). That being said, I understand you have to have a song composed by Bruce so this won’t fly.


Looking forward to seeing what other people say about this topic.
How about switching Busy Doin' Nothin' and Disney with Friends and Deirdre, then add Getcha Back and eliminate Little Deuce Coupe (for Surfer Girl album is already represented by the title track)? This way you can add something that represents BB85 while keeping Bruce's track.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: rab2591 on January 03, 2018, 06:57:22 AM
I feel like, for every “best of compilation, deciding the songs after “Good Vibrations” is a really hard task. My thoughts:

- glad you used “I Can Hear Music” instead of “Do It Again” to represent the 20/20 era. I feel like the former does such an amazing job at encapsulating what made The Beach Boys so great. It’s got Carl’s amazing lead, killer background vocals, and a really rhythmic and chill backing track. It’s a track more likely to make people interested in the latter years than “Do It Again”, IMO.

- I would ditch “Disney Girls” and instead add “Getcha Back” later in the list. This messes up your “one composition by each member” idea, but I feel like “Getcha Back” really deserves to be on the list, precisely because it represents the BB85 album (which I find to be one of their most underrated albums)...and because I don’t think “Disney Girls” is all that great (though I do enjoy hearing it on the Surfs Up album). That being said, I understand you have to have a song composed by Bruce so this won’t fly.


Looking forward to seeing what other people say about this topic.
How about switching Busy Doin' Nothin' and Disney with Friends and Deirdre, then add Getcha Back and eliminate Little Deuce Coupe (for Surfer Girl album is already represented by the title track)? This way you can add something that represents BB85 while keeping Bruce's track.

That’s a good compromise! But it’s your compilation list so you should definitely keep your original or whatever you like best.

Deidre is one of my favorite beach boys tracks, those flutes and the chorus, it’s just one of the most perfect songs from that era.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 03, 2018, 07:10:14 AM
Good idea! Personally I wouldn't be too fussed about including songs by all members as there is only so much space. Mine isn't too different but it is my attempt to give a list of tracks that is representative of the entire career.

1. Surfin' USA
2. Surfer Girl
3. Little Deuce Coupe
4. In My Room
5. Fun, Fun, Fun
6. The Warmth of the Sun
7. I Get Around
8. Don't Worry Baby
9. When I Grow Up
10. Help Me, Rhonda
11. California Girls
12. Sloop John B
13. Wouldn't It Be Nice
14. God Only Knows
15. Good Vibrations
16. Heroes and Villains (the Smile mix from the SS/WH 2-fer)
17. Darlin'
18. Time To Get Alone
19. I Can Hear Music
20. Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song)
21. Forever
22. Surf's Up
23. Sail On, Sailor
24. The Night Was So Young
25. Good Timin'
26. Getcha Back
27. Kokomo
28. That's Why God Made The Radio


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: HeyJude on January 03, 2018, 07:13:51 AM
They have far too many albums, and too many hits coupled with too many "key" tracks, to really make a career-spanning single-disc collection that doesn't ignore a huge hunk of their career.

So as far as I'm concerned, "Sounds of Summer" or "Endless Summer" or even "Greatest Hits Vol. 1" serve a good enough purpose, and after that we really have to tread into 2-CD territory to really start serving *both* main purposes of compilations: To include hits and well-known tracks, and be a decent survey of a band's *entire* career.

Otherwise, arbitrary rules have to start being used. For instance, "GH Vol. 3: Best of the Brother Years" set out to include the single release attached to each album. Because this only focused on 1970-1986, there was still room to include some key album tracks as well. But it also meant including "Honkin' Down the Highway" and "Peggy Sue" while not including, say, "All This Is That" or "The Night Was So Young" (or fill in the name of a few strong songs that might be more substantive than something like "Peggy Sue", which I don't dislike).  

While, depending on the mood, I sometimes enjoy programming compilation ideas, I remain a bit baffled as to why hardcore fans are super fascinated with them. Casual fans are served more than well enough by what's out there on the market, and if you're a hardcore fan and you're trying to get someone you know "into" the band, you're probably going to make them your own custom compilation (or point them to Spotify playlists, etc.). Don't get me wrong, I've caught myself saying "Hey, why is 'Solar System' on this compilation instead of 'Santa Ana Winds'" (random example), and then I realize that I have all of these albums (most several times over), and no casual fan is going to live or die by buying "Made in California" and having "Had to Phone Ya" but not "Somewhere Near Japan" or "Where I Belong."


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Tony S on January 03, 2018, 07:21:56 AM
Pretty good selections, but I would add All This Is That, and a persona favorite of mine that's often overlooked, Where I belong from Beach Boys 85. Vocals are shimmerring on that one, especially Carl and Al.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 03, 2018, 07:27:33 AM
While, depending on the mood, I sometimes enjoy programming compilation ideas, I remain a bit baffled as to why hardcore fans are super fascinated with them.

Oh to be blessed with not having OCD.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: NateRuvin on January 03, 2018, 07:42:26 AM
This is the one disc I would use to summarize The Beach Boys career, and to get someone into the band.

1. Surfin USA
2. Surfer Girl
3. I Get Around
4. Little Honda
5. The Warmth Of The Sun
6. Do You Wanna Dance?
7. Kiss Me, Baby
8. Don't Worry Baby
9. California Girls
10. Help Me, Rhonda
11. Barbara Ann
12. Wouldn't It Be Nice
13. Here Today
14. God Only Knows
15. Good Vibrations
13. Heroes And Villains
14. Cabinessence
15. Surf's Up
16. Wild Honey
17. Aren't You Glad
18. Darlin'
19. Friends
20. Time To Get Alone
21. All I Wanna Do
22. Deirdre
23. Forever
24. Sail On Sailor
25. The Night Was So Young
26. Getcha Back
27. Kokomo
28. Summer's Gone

Things I wish I could have put in:
Please Let Me Wonder, Cottonfields, Sloop John B, Little Deuce Coupe, Strange Things Happen, Caroline No


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: southbay on January 03, 2018, 08:08:06 AM
I always feel that the group's later work is overlooked in compilations, which is one reason a 1 CD package is impossible.  I would try to include the following:

Good Timin
Getcha Back
Kokomo
SNJ
Live SIP from Wembley
TWGMTR
PCH/Summer's Gone

 


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: bsten on January 03, 2018, 10:02:41 AM
Tried doing a pure "best of" comp, but impossible without including several hits...

Ok here goes:

The warmth of the sun
In the back of my mind
California girls
Wouldn't it be nice
That's not me
God only knows
I just wasn't made for these times
Good vibrations
Heroes and villains
Vegetables
Let the wind blow
Little Bird
Be with me
Time to get alone
Cabinessence
This whole world
Our sweet Love
Cool cool water
Long promised road
Disney girls (1957)
Feel flows
Til I die
Surf's up
You need a mess of help to stand alone
All this is that
Cuddle up
Sail in sailor
Lady Lynda
Love surrounds me

Surfin' USA
In my room
Please let me wonder
Busy doin' nothin'
Slip on through
Had to phone ya
The night was so young
My Diane
Match point of our love
I'm so lonely



Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 03, 2018, 10:58:05 AM
Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Jim V. on January 03, 2018, 11:32:08 AM
Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection.

Interesting that your write this SMiLE Brian, because a few weeks ago I thought about starting a thread talking about how great the track selection on Endless Summer was. If you could squeeze "Please Let Me Wonder" and "Lonely Sea" onto there, I think it would make a nearly perfect overview of their '62 thru '65 era.

Also, I would say that a great trio of purchases would be Pet Sounds, Endless Summer and Classics selected by Brian Wilson. Having all these titles in one's collection what give you Brian's best album, a large chunk of their greatest early work, and then later classics like "Heroes And Villains", "Surf's Up", "'Til I Die", "This Whole World" and others. However, only having those three discs also means you miss out on some of my very favorites like "Please Let Me Wonder", "Good Timin'" and "Cool, Cool Water" so I suppose ultimately things always get tricky.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 03, 2018, 11:38:06 AM
I forgot about the Classics album, that one's BW deep cuts are perfect for a general audience. Endless Summer was just genius in the way it trimmed the "fat" of BBs filler tracks on previous Capitol GHs releases. (No Mike, it wasn't your concept album) >:D


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: KDS on January 03, 2018, 11:39:47 AM
Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection.

Interesting that your write this SMiLE Brian, because a few weeks ago I thought about starting a thread talking about how great the track selection on Endless Summer was. If you could squeeze "Please Let Me Wonder" and "Lonely Sea" onto there, I think it would make a nearly perfect overview of their '62 thru '65 era.

Also, I would say that a great trio of purchases would be Pet Sounds, Endless Summer and Classics selected by Brian Wilson. Having all these titles in one's collection what give you Brian's best album, a large chunk of their greatest early work, and then later classics like "Heroes And Villains", "Surf's Up", "'Til I Die", "This Whole World" and others. However, only having those three discs also means you miss out on some of my very favorites like "Please Let Me Wonder", "Good Timin'" and "Cool, Cool Water" so I suppose ultimately things always get tricky.

I'd say Sounds of Summer, Warmth of the Sun, and Pet Sounds. 


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: NateRuvin on January 03, 2018, 12:13:46 PM
What about a single disc of our personal favorites?

1. All I Wanna Do
2. Here Today
3. Lady Lynda
4. Deidre
5. Surfin USA
6. California Girls
7. Aren't You Glad
8. The Warmth Of The Sun
9. Little Honda
10. Kiss Me Baby
11. Fun, Fun, Fun
12. God Only Knows
13. Time To Get Alone
14. Do It Again
15. Big Sur (4/4)
16. Forever
17. Til I Die
18. Surf's Up
19. Here She Comes
20. Strange Things Happen
21. It's Over Now
22. The Night Was So Young
23. Lady Lynda
24. Good Timin
25. Let The Wind Blow
26. All This Is That
27. You're Still A Mystery
28. Good Vibrations


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Lee Marshall on January 03, 2018, 02:39:14 PM
So...There has to be what?  Something representing of all the 'boys'?  Why?  At least 1 song from every album?  Except for Surfin' Safari and SMiLE?  Ya ya...I know the songs you picked from 20/20 and Surf's Up cover SMiLE.  But really?  Not so much.

So let's see...I'm gonna do this with NO rules...except for 1.  You can fit 79.57 worth of music onto a standard cd....you know...with CD quality wave files.  I'll do my best to cover the  whole span but I'm not giving it equal representation because the body of work doesn't deserve to be  restricted by the inclusion of sub-par entries.  I DO appreciate Best of the Beach Boys over Greatest hits because their BEST SONGS were often NOT the 'hits'.  So...Here goes.  

Wait a second.  NO GOOD.  I have greatest hits/best of CDs here in my house which are 2 disc sets.  The WHO, the Moody Blues, the Doors, Pink Floyd...heck YES is a 3 disc set.  No.  I think we can all agree that the 'boys' deserve to at least be equal in terms of coverage to these other fellas.  So I'm going with a 2 discs in one jewel case release just like the Bee Gees or Grand Funk...or the Stones [who cheated and used a box]

 The Beach Boys Were GREAT  Disc 1.

1.  409
2.  Surfin' U.S.A.
3.  Farmer's Daughter
4.  Catch a Wave
5.  In My Room
6.  Ballad of Ol' Betsy
7.  No-Go Showboat
8.  Fun Fun Fun
9.  Warmth of the Sun
10.  Don't Worry Baby
11.  Keep An Eye On Summer
12.  I Get Around
13.  All Summer Long
14.  Hushabye
15.  Little St. Nick [the tinkley bell version]
16.  Don't Hurt My Little Sister
17.  Please Let Me Wonder
18.  Kiss Me Baby
19.  California Girls,
20.  Let Him Run Wild
21.  Salt Lake City
22.  Sloop John B.
23.  God Only Knows
24.  Wouldn't It Be Nice
25.  Don't Talk, Put Your Head on my Shoulder
26.  I Know There's an Answer
27.  Good Vibrations
28.  Wind Chimes  [SMiLE version]
29.  Heroes and Villains [Smile version with Gee intro]
30.  Cabinessence [SMiLE]
31.  Surf's Up [SMiLE]  

That's it....Times up for disc 1.

The Beach Boys Were Great  Disc 2.

1.  Wild Honey
2.  Country Air
3.  Here Comes the Night
4.  Let The Wind Blow
5.  Meant For You/Friends
6.  Little Bird
7.  Busy Doin' Nothing
8.  I Can Hear Music
9.  I Went to Sleep
10.  Time to Get Alone
11.  Our Prayer
12.  It's About Time
13.  Add Some Music To Your Day
14.  This Whole World
15.  Our Sweet Love
16.  Forever
17.  'Til I Die
18.  Feel Flows
19.  River Song [actually recorded in 1971...separate from the rest of Pacific Ocean Blue]
20.  All This is That
21.  Sail On Sailor
22.  Only With You
23.  Had to Phone Ya
24.  Pitter Patter
25.  Good Timin'
26.  Sunshine
27.  Pacific Coast Highway/Summers Gone.

That's it.  Time's up.  The 2 discs are full.  No Kokomo.  Brian wanted to sing on it.  No?  O.K.  THAT wasn't really the Beach Boys then...now was it?  Besides...it's on every dime a dozen greatest hit pack the inquiring mind already has.  THIS one was for people who wanted to do more than merely scratch the surface.  Although some of their hits are all time classic greats and they bear repeating on THIS 2 disc set.  After 1973?  Money ruled.  Artistry took a back seat.  Choices became limited...by the limit of the self-appointed leader's creativity.  The proof is easy to  hear...here.






Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: B.E. on January 03, 2018, 03:55:28 PM
NateRuvin, which version of It's Over Now would you include on your personal favorites disc? Good Vibrations: 30 Years of the Beach Boys, Made in California, or the IJWMFTT demo? Also, you included Lady Lynda twice...

Add Some, 2 discs and still no Help Me, Rhonda? Did it even come close? I like that you included Little Saint Nick, though. Generally speaking, I think people are unnecessarily reluctant to include seasonal songs on compilations.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 04:42:59 PM
Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection.
I agree Endless Summer is nice collection, but I have to disagree about Pet Sounds. Pet Sounds, as far as I know, is the worse, if not the worst, way to be introduced to the Beach Boys discography. It's a great album, but there are two reasons why I think it's inappropriate for non-fans to get started:

1. You need to get a certain context behind Pet Sounds to understand the album. In spite of its static presence on "all-time greatest albums" lists by rock magazine, the sound of Pet Sounds, at the first listen, never sounds like rock, and sounds way too complicated for non-fans to enjoy it immediately. The word "immediately" is important, since unless they soon will learn to enjoy the album, they would eventually find it "boring" with only several listens and give up on it. IMO, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Sunflower all would be better starter.

2. In case the person you recommended BB liked/loved Pet Sounds, then the problem is that what they choose next - get back to the first album, or move on to the next album. Big No. Both Surfin' Safari and Smiley Smile is not a good starter for those who "only" love PS, and I think you already know why. Probably the last proper album, Summer Days would work for them, but even with that album I can see some fail to get it.

So, if you want to introduce someone to the BB with one comp and one original albums, either Endless Summer or Sound of Summer, and either All Summer Long and Sunflower are the good choices, in my opinion. 


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 04:59:20 PM
So...There has to be what?  Something representing of all the 'boys'?  Why?  At least 1 song from every album?  Except for Surfin' Safari and SMiLE?  Ya ya...I know the songs you picked from 20/20 and Surf's Up cover SMiLE.  But really?  Not so much.

So let's see...I'm gonna do this with NO rules...except for 1.  You can fit 79.57 worth of music onto a standard cd....you know...with CD quality wave files.  I'll do my best to cover the  whole span but I'm not giving it equal representation because the body of work doesn't deserve to be  restricted by the inclusion of sub-par entries.  I DO appreciate Best of the Beach Boys over Greatest hits because their BEST SONGS were often NOT the 'hits'.  So...Here goes.  

Wait a second.  NO GOOD.  I have greatest hits/best of CDs here in my house which are 2 disc sets.  The WHO, the Moody Blues, the Doors, Pink Floyd...heck YES is a 3 disc set.  No.  I think we can all agree that the 'boys' deserve to at least be equal in terms of coverage to these other fellas.  So I'm going with a 2 discs in one jewel case release just like the Bee Gees or Grand Funk...or the Stones [who cheated and used a box]
You're probably right. 2CD chronological ordered best of like yours will be greatly appreciated. I like your selection, but I decided to make one:

The Ultimate Best of The Beach Boys

Disc 1
1. Surfin' USA
2. Surfer Girl
3. Little Deuce Coupe
4. In My Room
5. Be True To Your School
6. Fun, Fun, Fun
7. Don't Worry Baby
8. The Warmth of the Sun
9. I Get Around
10. Wendy
11. Dance, Dance, Dance
12. When I Grow Up
13. Kiss Me, Baby
14. Do You Wanna Dance
15. Help Me, Rhonda
16. California Girls
17. Let Him Run Wild
18. Sloop John B
19. The Little Girl I Once Knew
20. Wouldn't It Be Nice
21. God Only Knows
22. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
23. Caroline, No
24. Good Vibrations
25. Heroes And Villains
26. With Me Tonight
27. Darlin'
28. Friends
29. Busy Doin' Nothin'
30. Do It Again
31. I Can Hear Music


Disc 2
1. Break Away
2. Cotton Fields
3. Soulful Old Man Sunshine
4. This Whole World
5. Deirdre
6. All I Wanna Do
7. Forever
8. Disney Girls
9. Long Promised Road
10. 'Til I Die
11. Surf's Up
12. (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again
13. All This Is That
14. Sail On, Sailor
15. The Trader
16. It's OK
17. The Night Was So Young
18. My Diane
19. Still I Dream of It
20. Lady Lynda
21. Goin' On
22. Getcha Back
23. Kokomo
24. That's Why God Made The Radio

I think this is more than great for those who're willing to listen to the BB's.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Uncle Walter on January 03, 2018, 05:18:37 PM
IMO the best introduction you could give someone to the Beach Boys is via the Endless Summer and Spirit of America compilations. They cover so much ground and, IMO, give the listener more than enough context to proceed to Pet Sounds, Smile, and eventually the late Capitol era and Brother era material. The Beach Boys are probably easiest to digest and understand if you listen chronologically.

Here's my track listing of the most objective best-of compilation I can think of, without imparting too much of my own personal taste:

1. Surfin' USA
2. Surfer Girl
3. Little Deuce Coupe
4. In My Room
5. Fun, Fun, Fun
6. The Warmth of the Sun
7. I Get Around
8. Don't Worry  Baby
9. Please Let Me Wonder
10. Dance, Dance, Dance
11. Little Saint Nick (possibly swap with Good To My Baby)
12. Help Me Rhonda
13. California Girls
14. Wouldn't It Be Nice
15. God Only Knows
16. Good Vibrations
17. Heroes and Villains (Cantina version)
18. Cabin Essence (Smile mono mix)
19. Surf's Up (Surf's Up album mix with Carl lead)
20. Wild Honey
21. Darlin'
22. Friends
23. I Can Hear Music
24. Forever
25. Long Promised Road
26. Til I Die
27. Sail On Sailor
28. The Night Was So Young
29. Kokomo

Here's my single disc "personal favorites" mix:

1. Surfer Girl
2. The Warmth of the Sun
3. Don't Worry Baby
4. Good to My Baby
5. Please Let Me Wonder
6. Kiss Me Baby
7. Help Me Rhonda
8. California Girls
9. Wouldn't It Be Nice
10. God Only Knows
11. Good Vibrations
12. Heroes and Villains (Cantina version)
13. Cabin Essence (Smile mono mix)
14. Wonderful
15. Surf's Up (Carl lead mix)
16. Darlin'
17. I'd Love Just Once To See You
18. Here Comes The Night
19. I Can Hear Music
20. Slip On Through
21. Forever
22. Long Promised Road
23. Day in the Life of a Tree
24. Til I Die
25. Let Us Go On This Way
26. Honkin' Down the Highway
27. The Night Was So Young
28. It's Over Now (2012 mix)
29. My Diane (single track vocal/"demo")


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: B.E. on January 03, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
Watamushi, Still I Dream Of It, nice  :)

I was just listening to the studio version earlier today and it's far better than I remember. There's no reason it shouldn't have been released at the time. Leaving it off MIU and LA was a mistake. I could even hear it on Keeping the Summer Alive if a Bambu track or two joined it. I don't even think it was considered for Ten Years of Harmony. Some minor touching up would have been all it needed, IMO.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 05:31:15 PM
Watamushi, Still I Dream Of It, nice  :)

I was just listening to the studio version earlier today and it's far better than I remember. There's no reason it shouldn't have been released at the time. Leaving it off MIU and LA was a mistake. I could even hear it on Keeping the Summer Alive if a Bambu track or two joined it. I don't even think it was considered for Ten Years of Harmony. Some minor touching up would have been all it needed, IMO.
Yeah, Still I Dream of It really should have been released while it was a new track. And I think it could've been more than awesome to see Frank Sinatra sing it.

As for what were considered or not for Ten Years of Harmony, petsite posted a detailed document on it a little while ago on PSF: 
http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans (http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans)


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: B.E. on January 03, 2018, 05:40:45 PM
Watamushi, Still I Dream Of It, nice  :)

I was just listening to the studio version earlier today and it's far better than I remember. There's no reason it shouldn't have been released at the time. Leaving it off MIU and LA was a mistake. I could even hear it on Keeping the Summer Alive if a Bambu track or two joined it. I don't even think it was considered for Ten Years of Harmony. Some minor touching up would have been all it needed, IMO.
Yeah, Still I Dream of It really should have been released while it was a new track. And I think it could've been more than awesome to see Frank Sinatra sing it.

As for what were considered or not for Ten Years of Harmony, petsite posted a detailed document on it a little while ago on PSF: 
http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans (http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/2040/all-newer-fans)


Yeah, that write-up is what I was thinking back to. I still don't get Carl's position on the photo and Bruce.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 03, 2018, 05:42:43 PM
Here's my single disc "personal favorites" mix
I made "personal favorites" compilation before, which has very odd selection, I guess:

Watamushi's Favorite BB Track:
1. Surfin' USA
2. Don't Worry Baby
3. I Get Around
4. Kiss Me, Baby
5. California Girls
6. You Still Believe In Me
7. Here Today
8. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
9. Good Vibrations [SMiLE Sessions Mix]
10. Wonderful [SMiLE Sessions Mix]
11. Surf's Up [SMilE Sessions Mix]
12. Vegetables  [Smiley Smile Ver.]
13. Busy Doin' Nothin'
14. I Can Hear Music
15. Break Away
16. Slip On Through
17. This Whole World
18. Deirdre
19. Long Promised Road
20. 'Til I Die
21. Only With You
22. Crack at Your Love
23. That Same Song
24. The Night Was So Young
25. On Broadway
26. Soul Seachin'
27. Still I Dream of It


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Lonely Summer on January 03, 2018, 08:41:39 PM
I just find this too hard to do. The hits have to be there, but how do you fit in as many hits as space allows and still have room for some personal favorites? Anything hit-oriented is always going to rely heavily on 62-67 tracks. After that, it goes more to key tracks and personal favs, and I really feel like that needs to be a separate disc. There are a lot of bands that are served well by a single disc comp, but not the BB's.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Rocky Raccoon on January 03, 2018, 09:57:24 PM
Skipped over some albums and some hit singles but I think a good overview.

1. Surfin’ USA
2. Shut Down
3. Surfer Girl
4. In My Room
5. Fun, Fun, Fun
6. Don’t Worry Baby
7. The Warmth of the Sun
8. I Get Around
9. All Summer Long
10. When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)
11. Please Let Me Wonder
12. Help Me, Rhonda
13. The Little Girl I Once Knew
14. Wouldn’t It Be Nice
15. God Only Knows
16. Good Vibrations
17. Heroes and Villains
18. Wild Honey
19. Darlin’
20. Time to Get Alone
21. Break Away
22. ‘Til I Die
23. Surf’s Up
24. Feel Flows
25. Sail On, Sailor
26. The Night Was So Young
27. Good Timin’
28. Angel Come Home
29. Soul Searchin’


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: KDS on January 04, 2018, 05:19:24 AM
I just find this too hard to do. The hits have to be there, but how do you fit in as many hits as space allows and still have room for some personal favorites? Anything hit-oriented is always going to rely heavily on 62-67 tracks. After that, it goes more to key tracks and personal favs, and I really feel like that needs to be a separate disc. There are a lot of bands that are served well by a single disc comp, but not the BB's.

That's why I think Warmth of the Sun works perfectly with Sounds of Summer.  SOS has all of the big hits, while WOTS has some of the hits that didn't make SOS, as well as fan favorites like Friends, Feel Flows, Til I Die, etc.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 04, 2018, 06:16:55 AM
Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection.
I agree Endless Summer is nice collection, but I have to disagree about Pet Sounds. Pet Sounds, as far as I know, is the worse, if not the worst, way to be introduced to the Beach Boys discography. It's a great album, but there are two reasons why I think it's inappropriate for non-fans to get started:

1. You need to get a certain context behind Pet Sounds to understand the album. In spite of its static presence on "all-time greatest albums" lists by rock magazine, the sound of Pet Sounds, at the first listen, never sounds like rock, and sounds way too complicated for non-fans to enjoy it immediately. The word "immediately" is important, since unless they soon will learn to enjoy the album, they would eventually find it "boring" with only several listens and give up on it. IMO, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Sunflower all would be better starter.

2. In case the person you recommended BB liked/loved Pet Sounds, then the problem is that what they choose next - get back to the first album, or move on to the next album. Big No. Both Surfin' Safari and Smiley Smile is not a good starter for those who "only" love PS, and I think you already know why. Probably the last proper album, Summer Days would work for them, but even with that album I can see some fail to get it.

So, if you want to introduce someone to the BB with one comp and one original albums, either Endless Summer or Sound of Summer, and either All Summer Long and Sunflower are the good choices, in my opinion. 
Well said Watamushi, Pet Sounds can be intimidating as hell on first listen without context....


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: sensiblechuckle on January 04, 2018, 08:17:13 AM
I included one song from every album (cancelled or otherwise) outside of concert albums, although I added singles that are more thought of as singles than part of an album (like Good Vibrations, Kokomo, and Breakaway)

1. Surfin Safari
2. Shut Down
3. In My Room
4. Little Deuce Coupe
5. Fun, Fun, Fun
6. All Summer Long
7. Little Saint Nick
8. In the Back of My Mind
9. Help Me, Rhonda 
10. Barbara Ann
11. God Only Knows
12. Good Vibrations
13. Surf's Up (Smile)
14. Vega-Tables (Smiley Smile)
15. Darlin'
16. Busy Doin' Nothing 
17. Time to Get Alone
18. Breakaway
19. Tears in the Morning
20. Long Promised Road
21. Here She Comes
22. California Saga: California
23. It's O.K.
24. The Night Was So Young
25. Still I Dream Of It
26. Matchpoint of Our Love
27. Baby Blue
28. Goin' On
29. Getcha Back
30. Kokomo
31. Somewhere Near Japan
32. Strange Things Happen
33. Soul Searchin'
34. Long Tall Texan
35. That's Why God Made the Radio


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Uncle Walter on January 04, 2018, 11:34:21 AM
Here is my concept of a 2-disc "The Story of the Beach Boys" compilation, one that showcases mostly hits with some deep cuts sprinkled in to give a comprehensive look at the band's history:

DISC 1:
1. Surfin' Safari
2. Surfin' USA
3. Surfer Girl
4. Little Deuce Coupe
5. In My Room
6. Fun, Fun, Fun
7. The Warmth of the Sun
8. I Get Around
9. Dance, Dance, Dance
10. Help Me Rhonda (single version)
11. Kiss Me Baby
12. In the Back of My Mind
13. Barbara Ann
14. Don't Worry Baby
15. California Girls
16. Wouldn't It Be Nice
17. That's Not Me
18. I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
19. God Only Knows
20. Caroline, No
21. Good Vibrations
22. Heroes and Villains (Cantina version)
23. Vege-Tables (Smile mix)
24. Little Pad
25. Wild Honey
26. Aren't You Glad
27. Darlin'
28. Friends
29. I Can Hear Music
30. Cabinessence (20/20 stereo mix)
Runtime - 1:19:10

DISC 2:
1. Slip On Through
2. Add Some Music to Your Day
3. Forever
4. 'Til I Die
5. Surf's Up (Carl lead mix)
6. Marcella
7. Sail On Sailor
8. California Saga: California
9. Funky Pretty
10. Rock and Roll Music
11. Roller Skating Child
12. Solar System
13. The Night Was So Young
14. Life Is For The Living (Carl acapella intro mix)
15. It's Over Now (2012 mix)
16. Still I Dream Of It (album version)
17. My Diane (Single tracked vocal mix)
18. Hey Little Tomboy (MIU mix)
19. Good Timin'
20. Santa Ana Winds
21. Getcha Back
22. Kokomo
23. Strange World
24. From There to Back Again
25. Pacific Coast Highway
26. Summer's Gone
Runtime - 1:18:19


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: NateRuvin on January 04, 2018, 11:36:54 AM
B.E. ,

Whoops, didn't mean to include Lady Lynda twice, though I do love that song!

And my favorite version is the one from Made In California


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: GhostyTMRS on January 04, 2018, 02:02:54 PM
The "..Classics Selected By Brian Wilson" CD does an excellent job. Sometimes when these collections stop at a certain point in the group's history, it's doing them a favor.  ;D


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 04, 2018, 04:38:28 PM
Endless summer and PS are still the best way to start a 1CD collection.
I agree Endless Summer is nice collection, but I have to disagree about Pet Sounds. Pet Sounds, as far as I know, is the worse, if not the worst, way to be introduced to the Beach Boys discography. It's a great album, but there are two reasons why I think it's inappropriate for non-fans to get started:

1. You need to get a certain context behind Pet Sounds to understand the album. In spite of its static presence on "all-time greatest albums" lists by rock magazine, the sound of Pet Sounds, at the first listen, never sounds like rock, and sounds way too complicated for non-fans to enjoy it immediately. The word "immediately" is important, since unless they soon will learn to enjoy the album, they would eventually find it "boring" with only several listens and give up on it. IMO, All Summer Long, Today, Summer Days and Sunflower all would be better starter.

2. In case the person you recommended BB liked/loved Pet Sounds, then the problem is that what they choose next - get back to the first album, or move on to the next album. Big No. Both Surfin' Safari and Smiley Smile is not a good starter for those who "only" love PS, and I think you already know why. Probably the last proper album, Summer Days would work for them, but even with that album I can see some fail to get it.

So, if you want to introduce someone to the BB with one comp and one original albums, either Endless Summer or Sound of Summer, and either All Summer Long and Sunflower are the good choices, in my opinion. 
Well said Watamushi, Pet Sounds can be intimidating as hell on first listen without context....
Yep, and I believe songs like Wendy, Let Him Run Wild, all I wanna do, Our Sweet Love etc. which are on the albums I pointed would help them with their future fully understanding of Pet Sounds :-D


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Wata on January 04, 2018, 05:07:40 PM
The "..Classics Selected By Brian Wilson" CD does an excellent job. Sometimes when these collections stop at a certain point in the group's history, it's doing them a favor.  ;D
It's a nice compilation, but my only concern is that it doesn't present non-Brian works at all so that it could give people wrong understanding of the BB career: Brian =The Beach Boys.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 08, 2018, 04:08:03 PM
If I made such thing, I'd include every favorite song - f.ex. "At My Window", "Good To My Baby", "10 Little Indians", "Wind Chimes" (Smiley), "Take A Load Off Your Feet". It's logical that CD would be sth. I'd like listening to.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Alex on May 09, 2018, 10:09:08 AM
Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: nach0king on May 09, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs.

I think the idea is to make a CD for the casual fan, giving them the hits and then one or two extras they might not have heard. Then if they get hooked they can dig deeper.

Here's my attempt. Not even going to bother listing all the tracks I wanted to include but couldn't.

1   Surfin' Safari
2   Surfin' USA
3   Little Deuce Coupe
4   In My Room
5   I Get Around
6   All Summer Long
7   Wendy
8   When I Grow Up
9   California Girls
10   Help Me Rhonda (single)
11   Wouldn't It Be Nice
12   God Only Knows
13   Caroline, No
14   Good Vibrations
15   Little Pad
16   Wild Honey
17   Darlin'
18   Do It Again
19   This Whole World
20   Forever
21   Marcella
22   Good Time
23   Good Timin'
24   Goin' On
25   Getcha Back
26   Somewhear Near Japan
27   That's Why God Made The Radio
28   Summer's Gone


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: RangeRoverA1 on May 11, 2018, 04:27:19 AM
There IS perfect career-spanning comp - Sounds Of Summer. :3d Why can't everybody list their fave tracks instead as single CD? It seems people dread listing random fave tracks & go with banal "usual suspects" hit songs. Besides, the faves comp CAN be career-spanning too.


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Sangheon on May 16, 2018, 07:08:10 AM
Here is my concept of "Sounds of Summer vo.2".

1 And Your Dream Come True
2 Good Timin'
3 Night Wwas So Young
4 Kiss Me Baby
5 Surf's Up

6 Island Fever (UK version)
7 Add Some Music
8 Then I Kissed Her
9 Breakaway (alternate version)
10 Girls on The Beach
11 Disney Girls

12 Cotton Fields (stereo single version)
13 Sail on Sailor
14 This Whole World
15 All I Wanna Do (the Sunflower track)
16 Till I Die
17 Aii This Is That

!8 Why Do Fools Fall in Love (with a piano intro)
19 The Little Gril I Once Knew (alternate stereo version)
20 Shelter
21 Forever
22 All Summer Long
23 Your Summer Dream
24 Summer in Paradise (live version with the Knebworth live intro)


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Cabinessenceking on May 16, 2018, 09:38:01 AM
Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs.

the only realistic answer  ;D


Title: Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of...
Post by: Alex on May 17, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs.

the only realistic answer  ;D

I'd have to include a minimum of 5 tracks from every album, not just hits but also standout album cuts, ecery single album would have to be represented-solo records and obscure stuff (such as Mike and Dean, Sunkist album, Salute to Nascar, Songs From Here and Back) included, and don't forget the unfinished/unreleased albums, standout vault/bootleg tracks...