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Guardian: "Mike Love: What To Expext From His Autobiography"
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Personally, I think such squabbling adds nothing to the music and what actually matters.
http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/nov/21/mike-love-what-to-expect-from-his-autobiography
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The very first line says Mike Love owns the Beach Boys name. So the guy's already screwing the whole thing up from the very. first. line.
Are there any music websites that have actual journalism, that's researched, and you know, valid, honest, not trying to push whatever agenda they're down with? I guess since it's all review based, etc. it pretty much has to be biased because it's all opinion.
When you write something titled 'what to expect' though, it gives the illusion that it's a news piece... then it turns into a bunch of sh*t the guy made up that he thinks Mike is going to say.
... and then, he got PAID to put it on the Guardian!
The world has gone mad.
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I'd agree with #10.
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........and 11
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There was an earlier thread about this.
It is a poor piece of work - fan-geeky, snide, author impressed by his own wit and intelligence, and inaccurate. How did it get past the filters? Dunno.
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Yet... ... ...
He isn't wrong about everything.
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I'm REALLY bored of the same old shite written about Mike Love. The Guardian article is crap.
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B b b b but Mike...'THEY' "won the Pulitzer Prize. Must have been for the accuracy on the hat bit.
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Quote from: Add Some on February 06, 2015, 06:07:02 AM
B b b b but Mike...'THEY' "won the Pulitzer Prize. Must have been for the accuracy on the hat bit.
...well alright.
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<<I'd agree with #10>>
I think AGD's comment sums up this article perfectly.
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Eh. I don't see much that's really inaccurate there. The owns the name bit is in the headline, not the article, which means that someone other than the author wrote it.
And for the general public, I doubt many folks would see significant difference between "owns the name" and "has an exclusive license to the name, one of the people he licenses it from being himself, and controls it on tour."
Just like there being precious little difference between "fires Brian Wilson" and "consciously allows a contract to expire so Brian Wilson doesn't get to tour with me anymore, which he has stated publicly that he wants to keep doing."
And perhaps there isn't much daylight between "killed Smile" and "berated my mentally ill cousin about how much I hated the music he was making until, for entirely unconnected reasons, he chose to stop making it."
Just saying.
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Quote from: Wirestone on February 06, 2015, 08:08:36 AM
Eh. I don't see much that's really inaccurate there. The owns the name bit is in the headline, not the article, which means that someone other than the author wrote it.
And for the general public, I doubt many folks would see significant difference between "owns the name" and "has an exclusive license to the name, one the people he licenses it from being himself, and controls it on tour."
Just like there being precious little difference between "fires Brian Wilson" and "consciously allows a contract to expire so Brian Wilson doesn't get to tour with me anymore, which he has stated publicly that he wants to keep doing."
And perhaps there isn't much daylight between "killed Smile" and "berated my mentally ill cousin about how much I hated the music he was making until, for entirely unconnected reasons, he chose to stop making it."
Just saying.
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Agreed wirestone.
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Quote from: Wirestone on February 06, 2015, 08:08:36 AM
Eh. I don't see much that's really inaccurate there. The owns the name bit is in the headline, not the article, which means that someone other than the author wrote it.
And for the general public, I doubt many folks would see significant difference between "owns the name" and "has an exclusive license to the name, one the people he licenses it from being himself, and controls it on tour."
Just like there being precious little difference between "fires Brian Wilson" and "consciously allows a contract to expire so Brian Wilson doesn't get to tour with me anymore, which he has stated publicly that he wants to keep doing."
And perhaps there isn't much daylight between "killed Smile" and "berated my mentally ill cousin about how much I hated the music he was making until, for entirely unconnected reasons, he chose to stop making it."
Just saying.
As Ron said it is just the author's opinions.
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Quote from: Wirestone on February 06, 2015, 08:08:36 AM
Eh. I don't see much that's really inaccurate there. The owns the name bit is in the headline, not the article, which means that someone other than the author wrote it.
And for the general public, I doubt many folks would see significant difference between "owns the name" and "has an exclusive license to the name, one the people he licenses it from being himself, and controls it on tour."
Just like there being precious little difference between "fires Brian Wilson" and "consciously allows a contract to expire so Brian Wilson doesn't get to tour with me anymore, which he has stated publicly that he wants to keep doing."
And perhaps there isn't much daylight between "killed Smile" and "berated my mentally ill cousin about how much I hated the music he was making until, for entirely unconnected reasons, he chose to stop making it."
Just saying.
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Quote from: Cam Mott on February 06, 2015, 08:37:44 AM
Quote from: Wirestone on February 06, 2015, 08:08:36 AM
Eh. I don't see much that's really inaccurate there. The owns the name bit is in the headline, not the article, which means that someone other than the author wrote it.
And for the general public, I doubt many folks would see significant difference between "owns the name" and "has an exclusive license to the name, one the people he licenses it from being himself, and controls it on tour."
Just like there being precious little difference between "fires Brian Wilson" and "consciously allows a contract to expire so Brian Wilson doesn't get to tour with me anymore, which he has stated publicly that he wants to keep doing."
And perhaps there isn't much daylight between "killed Smile" and "berated my mentally ill cousin about how much I hated the music he was making until, for entirely unconnected reasons, he chose to stop making it."
Just saying.
As Ron said it is just the author's opinions.
Right, but a non-biased opinion is impossible.
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That article is pretty much a smiley smile post.
Congratulations guys, any of us could write for the guardian.
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SMiLE came out in 2001? Interesting.
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Quote from: Wrightfan on February 06, 2015, 09:38:51 AM
SMiLE came out in 2001? Interesting.
It did? sh*t!!! I thought that I was on the cutting edge when I bought it.
Guess not
But at least *I* didn't record Brian Wilson Presents Smile 3 years AFTER Smile was released. Somebody should have told him.
Man!!! You learn something everyday here.
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Is this from an alternate reality where Mike owns the Beach Boys and SMILE came out in 2001?
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Quote from: Wirestone on February 06, 2015, 08:08:36 AM
And perhaps there isn't much daylight between "killed Smile" and "berated my mentally ill cousin about how much I hated the music he was making until, for entirely unconnected reasons, he chose to stop making it."
Except that he did no such thing.
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Quote from: Shady on February 06, 2015, 09:33:31 AM
That article is pretty much a smiley smile post.
Congratulations guys, any of us could write for the guardian.
I take that as a considerable and personal insult !
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Sometimes I wish that Mike actually DID kill SMiLE...it would be a lot easier to take than what actually happened.
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#10 might not happen if they use a picture from when he was young, like the striped shirt era.
Also, Mike's book should come with a free 45 of the Beach Boys version of the Monster Mash.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on February 06, 2015, 02:21:47 PM
Quote from: Wirestone on February 06, 2015, 08:08:36 AM
And perhaps there isn't much daylight between "killed Smile" and "berated my mentally ill cousin about how much I hated the music he was making until, for entirely unconnected reasons, he chose to stop making it."
Except that he did no such thing.
Those may be overly harsh words for Wirestone to say, but IMO even if Mike's intentions were not ill-intended and not meant to wound/in any way, shape or form derail or change the project's direction, I don't really doubt that Brian *felt* some degree, even a little, of those feelings from his cousin at the time, and I don't believe it's appropriate to underestimate, let alone completely erase that from being a possible piece (by no means the entire piece) of the puzzle. A fragile person's interpretations of another person's probable negative energy and vibe cannot simply be dismissed as nonexistent, even if one wishes to release Mike (and any other band member(s)) from any and all responsibility.
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