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Title: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: Surfer Joe on June 16, 2008, 11:45:17 PM
WHY has there never been a moment in my whole life where the Kinks Katalog was in decent shape? 

It's 2008, we've got a doohickey on Mars, I think, and STILL...no box set.  No Great Lost Kinks Album EVER. No decent version EVER of Kinks-Size or Kinkdom in anything like original form. Their great albums are treated like army brats, moving from one half-assed reissue label to another with no real deluxe treatment like Bowie's great albums, Elton John's great albums, Clapton's great albums, the Who's great albums, or any of what Dusty Springfield or the Zombies or Marvin Gaye get. Village Green has had a few fly-by-night stabs, but that's really it.

Whose krank did these guys step on, for all of time?


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: 8o8o on June 17, 2008, 06:04:13 AM
Maybe they need to reunite to get the wheels in motion.....

Then again, that would probably only bring us another Kinky Kompilation.....

So yes, I'm with you, like the mighty Jabberjaw, they could do with some more respect. The sooner the better. ;D


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: donald on June 17, 2008, 12:31:55 PM
I'd be interested in getting their studio albums altogether and available like ABK did with the Stones a few years ago.
Some of the stuff I have NEVER heard.  I have one to many compilations to not have half of their recorded ouput in my collection.


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: Surfer Joe on June 17, 2008, 07:21:51 PM
Guys, it just makes me friggin' Krazy.  donald, your suggestion about issuing them uniformly like the Stones is just what the doctor ordered- even if it was just done according to label. But unlike the Stones discs, I need bonus tracks. Cardboard sleeves would be nice.  I'd shell out for all the ones I have all over again if they were given the treatment.  I suspect a lot of us would.

Two (2) early Kinks albums never given correct treatment- the equivalent of dumping the contents of Little Deuce Coupe onto a disc with Surfer Girl and just saying "it wasn't their best." And then deleting it. There's history there, and there's more than sufficient interest.  The Kinks have certainly earned the honor of having their whole catalog treated properly, and not like they were Freddie and the Dreamers.

And I wonder if really decent sound is a possibility?

I wish Ian Wagner was here to get in on this conversation. Somebody e-mail him.



Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: donald on June 18, 2008, 08:33:19 AM
Last I saw Ian's name he was hanging out at another site....and I didn'tsave it on favorites so I've forgotten.

Anybody know the site?


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: Aegir on June 18, 2008, 10:38:10 AM
http://s3.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=5424


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: Ian on June 18, 2008, 11:15:40 AM
Not sure if you saw it-but there was a fantastic version of Something Else released with bonus tracks. I bought it-but haven't seen it in stores since-had Dead End Street, Autumn Almanac and a few others on it. There first two albums were also released in real nice packages with bonus tracks.  There is also a nice version of their third album out-with bonus tracks. I have seen that there are multiple versions-you might check on Amazon-for newer versions with bonus tracks


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: Roger Ryan on June 18, 2008, 02:11:35 PM
Castle reissued all of the Kinks Pye/Reprise albums about ten years ago with lots of bonus tracks (the early albums have more bonus tracks than original tracks, I believe, including great things like Ray's demo of "I Go To Sleep"). Unfortunately, lots of folks complained about the mastering (of course, the sound quality was never too good on those 60s albums, but I tend to agree the remastering was not optimum). Now it appears that Sanctuary reissued some of these same albums again about four years ago. I'm not sure if the sound has been improved. I did pick up the deluxe edition of VILLAGE GREEN from Sanctuary which did sound better than the Castle reissue, but as much as I love the band, I can't buy all of their albums a fourth time (I own the vinyl editions, the first Reprise CD issues and the Castle reissues)!


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: dogear on June 19, 2008, 07:23:41 AM
The RCA stuff was released roughly ten years ago on their own KONK label also with bonus tracks.


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: KokoMoses on August 26, 2008, 06:00:39 AM
Of course the Arista stuff and 70's RCA stuff were give nice (still avaliable) reissues.

The early stuff is avaliable in 180gram vinyl editions and sound/look great, but they go for about $25something bucks a pop!


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: 8o8o on November 05, 2008, 04:24:51 AM
Maybe they need to reunite to get the wheels in motion.....
So apparently they have:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7710458.stm

It looks like new material is underway. Kool.  8)


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: mikeyj on November 05, 2008, 04:33:55 AM
Maybe they need to reunite to get the wheels in motion.....
So apparently they have:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7710458.stm

It looks like new material is underway. Kool.  8)

Wow that's awesome news!! :)


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: Alex on November 13, 2008, 06:26:57 AM
Maybe they need to reunite to get the wheels in motion.....
So apparently they have:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7710458.stm

It looks like new material is underway. Kool.  8)

It's a few years late, much like the Zombies reunion, or a potential BBs reunion, but still pretty cool.


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: roll plymouth rock on November 26, 2008, 12:18:46 AM
http://www.pitchforkmedia.com/article/news/147646-the-kinks-to-release-first-ever-box-set

Also, saw Ray Davies this year....amazing


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: FranKLima on November 26, 2008, 12:23:10 PM
I am off Friday to see Ray down in Tampa, and working my way back up North at all shows until it ends in New Jersey on the 13th of December..Anyone on here see the early 70's tour when The Beachboys and Kinks played together? Great shows! Here is Ray's next US east coast tour schedule which begins in a few days, friday Nov,28th..

28 November - Tampa Theatre, Tampa, FL
29 November - Fillmore Miami Beach at Jackie Gleason's, Miami, FL
30 November - Hard Rock Live, Orlando, FL
2 December - Variety Theatre, Atlanta, GA
3 December - Wildhorse Saloon, Nashville, TN
5 December - Borgata Music Box, Atlantic City, NJ
6 December - Bardavon 1869 Opera House, Poughkeepsie, NY
8 December - 9:30 Club, Washington, DC
10 December - Lupo's Heartbreak Hotel, Providence, RI
11 December - Memorial Auditorium, Burlington, VT
12 December - Hammerstein Ballroom, New York, NY
13 December - Paramount Theatre, Asbury Park, NJ


Title: Re: The Kinks Katalog...2008 And Still NO RESPECT.
Post by: FranKLima on November 26, 2008, 12:26:00 PM
and if you are interested in finding anything else (Then, Now and Inbetween ) about the kinks and or keeping up with the latest kinks, Ray and Dave news these are the top places to look...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDlc4NApv1U  ( this is the promo video of Ray's amazing musical Come Dancing which ran in London for two months this year  and may come to NYC next year! ) Ran September 13th 2008, thru November 8th at the Stratford east theatre in London, and I should know cuz I was there!

to get on the kinls preservation email digest list, send an email to Neil at this address; neil@kinks.it.rit.edu
and just tell him to add your email address to the list to get the kinks preservation society digest emailed to you.
It generally comes out anywhere from as much as everyday to a few times a week depending on how much news there is
andhow many postes he receives.


The Official KinKs fan club forum website;
http://kinksfanclub.proboards92.com/

The Official Ray Davies forum website;
http://raydavies.3.forumer.com/

The Official Dave Davies forum website;
http://www.davedavies.com/messageboard/viewforum.php?id=2


The Home pages for the above links are;

The official Kinks Fan Club Home Page
http://www.officialkinksfanclub.co.uk/

The Official Ray Davies Website
http://www.raydavies.info/www/intro.php

The Official Dave Davies Website
http://www.davedavies.com/

THE BEST UNofficial KinKs web site around by far !
http://kinks.it.rit.edu/

http://www.youtube.com/RayDaviesForum