M & B Tour 2013

[Jim V.]

All appeared mended between Love’s Beach Boys and Brian Wilson, but the enigmatic visionary left the band again.“That’s fine,” Love said while calling from Austin. “Brian has his band and we’re doing our thing."

Wow, Mike is really doing a hard push on blaming Brian for ending the C50. Obviously the press are now receiving talking points from Mike's organiztion that reflect that.

I also find it funny that they say "Brian left the band". I mean I guess if you truly consider the guys out there playing Bumfuck County Fair THE BEACH BOYS then he isn't in the group anymore. But the current lineup of The Beach Boys is still Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine and whoever else they deem to be a member, as those three (along with Carl's estate) run BRI.

[hypehat]

Mike, you could still be making records! Musicians make records! You're a musician! Make records with Brian! I mean that's all i'd like him to do. At least Brian still has a strong desire to make records, which ultimately I'll respect much more than Mike being too proud to accomodate the needs of a 70 year old with mental problems who he really wants to write with in his touring schedule.

[SMiLE Brian]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

[RubberSoul13]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

He sounds pretty content! Do you think he really cares about writing a few more songs with Brian? No. I think he cares about making a quick buck off of Brian. Since he seems to have lost the lyrical creativity, he'll have to wait until people forget about TWGMTR to make another album with him.

[Nicko1234]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

He`s as happy as Larry.

He`s still getting the adulation from the crowds and having sex with women less than half his age. I bet he can`t believe his luck.

[ontor pertawst]

And he gets the manly companionship of Bruce Johnston, which is surely worth a thousand nights with girls half your age... the endless explanations that it doesn't happen that often, really, and they can try again in ten minutes. None of that with Bruce. Just good solid brotherly love. And shorts. Teeny tiny shorts.

[oldsurferdude]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

And he always will be. It's obvious that he believes he deserves the same adulation that Brian does. He does not get that his success, money wise, is because of his first cousin and the timing for him was correct. Honestly, I would have been more than happy to see his ass kicked out of the band before Pet Sounds-after that album he was on his way to being a has been which he is now and has been for decades.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

All appeared mended between Love’s Beach Boys and Brian Wilson, but the enigmatic visionary left the band again.“That’s fine,” Love said while calling from Austin. “Brian has his band and we’re doing our thing."

Wow, Mike is really doing a hard push on blaming Brian for ending the C50. Obviously the press are now receiving talking points from Mike's organiztion that reflect that.

I also find it funny that they say "Brian left the band". I mean I guess if you truly consider the guys out there playing Bumfuck County Fair THE BEACH BOYS then he isn't in the group anymore. But the current lineup of The Beach Boys is still Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine and whoever else they deem to be a member, as those three (along with Carl's estate) run BRI.

Funny, it's gone from Brian feeling fired to Brian left the band. Wonder when Brian or his people are going to address this rewrite of the C50 end?

[Jim V.]

All appeared mended between Love’s Beach Boys and Brian Wilson, but the enigmatic visionary left the band again.“That’s fine,” Love said while calling from Austin. “Brian has his band and we’re doing our thing."

Wow, Mike is really doing a hard push on blaming Brian for ending the C50. Obviously the press are now receiving talking points from Mike's organiztion that reflect that.

I also find it funny that they say "Brian left the band". I mean I guess if you truly consider the guys out there playing Bumfuck County Fair THE BEACH BOYS then he isn't in the group anymore. But the current lineup of The Beach Boys is still Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine and whoever else they deem to be a member, as those three (along with Carl's estate) run BRI.

Funny, it's gone from Brian feeling fired to Brian left the band. Wonder when Brian or his people are going to address this rewrite of the C50 end?

And it would be totally cool if Mike was singing this tune from the beginning. But he wasn't. Which is why I'll continue to believe that it is ultimately on him that the group didn't continue on.

[rn57]

The Lovester and  Historical pulled quite a surprise at their show at the Mohegan Sun tonight - a guest appearance by everyone's fave pint-sized big-voiced lassie, Lulu.

 She performed "To Sir With Love," which is to be expected, and "I Can Hear Music," which is somewhat more startling.

 Photo below:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=498414270237419&set=a.249407895138059.60323.125419450870238&type=1&theater

[Nicko1234]

That would have been nice to see. I remember she covered Sail on Sailor a while ago so a shame she didn`t get to sing that one.

It`s cool that that they occasional have other guests up there. Matt Jardine and Hayleigh Love having made other recent appearances...

[filledeplage]

The Lovester and  Historical pulled quite a surprise at their show at the Mohegan Sun tonight - a guest appearance by everyone's fave pint-sized big-voiced lassie, Lulu.
 She performed "To Sir With Love," which is to be expected, and "I Can Hear Music," which is somewhat more startling.
 Photo below:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=498414270237419&set=a.249407895138059.60323.125419450870238&type=1&theater

Hands down, best Touring Band casino show, I've ever seen.  Kathy Troccoli did I Can Hear Music for Stars and Stripes.  No surprise that Lulu performed it last night. 

Show was for The Reach Foundation.  Impressive charity.  Lulu, whom I've never seen, was tremendous, and during the show, the backstory told, was that Lulu had "opened" for the Beach Boys back in the day.

Really a fun show!   

[Rocker]

That would have been nice to see. I remember she covered Sail on Sailor a while ago so a shame she didn`t get to sing that one.

Yes, I think she did that with Sting

[smile-holland]

Show was for The Reach Foundation.  Impressive charity.  Lulu, whom I've never seen, was tremendous, and during the show, the backstory told, was that Lulu had "opened" for the Beach Boys back in the day. 

As early as Dec. 1981 when they performed in Sun City, South Africa.

[Nicko1234]

Show was for The Reach Foundation.  Impressive charity.  Lulu, whom I've never seen, was tremendous, and during the show, the backstory told, was that Lulu had "opened" for the Beach Boys back in the day. 

As early as Dec. 1981 when they performed in Sun City, South Africa.

Back in the 60s too I believe.

[Michael Edwards Love]

Show was for The Reach Foundation.  Impressive charity.  Lulu, whom I've never seen, was tremendous, and during the show, the backstory told, was that Lulu had "opened" for the Beach Boys back in the day. 

As early as Dec. 1981 when they performed in Sun City, South Africa.

Back in the 60s too I believe.

Yes, they played with her in the UK on 6 November, 1966.  (Maybe earlier as well?)

[Cam Mott]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

And he always will be. It's obvious that he believes he deserves the same adulation that Brian does. He does not get that his success, money wise, is because of his first cousin and the timing for him was correct. Honestly, I would have been more than happy to see his ass kicked out of the band before Pet Sounds-after that album he was on his way to being a has been which he is now and has been for decades.

Really? Why is he always publically praising Brian as the genius?

[oldsurferdude]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

And he always will be. It's obvious that he believes he deserves the same adulation that Brian does. He does not get that his success, money wise, is because of his first cousin and the timing for him was correct. Honestly, I would have been more than happy to see his ass kicked out of the band before Pet Sounds-after that album he was on his way to being a has been which he is now and has been for decades.

Really? Why is he always publically praising Brian as the genius?

Typical mYke luHv backpedaling or his guilty conscious for being a bad clown.

[Cam Mott]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

And he always will be. It's obvious that he believes he deserves the same adulation that Brian does. He does not get that his success, money wise, is because of his first cousin and the timing for him was correct. Honestly, I would have been more than happy to see his ass kicked out of the band before Pet Sounds-after that album he was on his way to being a has been which he is now and has been for decades.

Really? Why is he always publically praising Brian as the genius?

Typical mYke luHv backpedaling or his guilty conscious for being a bad clown.

Well played.

[filledeplage]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

And he always will be. It's obvious that he believes he deserves the same adulation that Brian does. He does not get that his success, money wise, is because of his first cousin and the timing for him was correct. Honestly, I would have been more than happy to see his ass kicked out of the band before Pet Sounds-after that album he was on his way to being a has been which he is now and has been for decades.

Really? Why is he always publically praising Brian as the genius?

Typical mYke luHv backpedaling or his guilty conscious for being a bad clown.

Oldsurferdude - Mike has been objectively "giving credit, where credit is due," with respect to the team effort of music composition and lyrics, since I remember first seeing the BB's in 1967.  Supposing that he has a "guilty conscience" sounds like "practicing medicine without a license."

Mike continues to say good things about Brian, and probably is under no obligation to do so.  It is his MO, not a new MO but one that has been consistent in my concertgoing experience since the era of Carl's CO status. 

This board has some great members, but some are becoming very subjective and biased.  And, likely much of it is not based in personal first-hand knowledge, nor a product of seeing their shows.  I would bet there are plenty of YouTubes from the 60's that would support Mike's crediting the compositions of his cousin.  As far as the Touring Band shows, I have never seen one show, and I've probably seen at least a hundred, where Mike does not take the time, to tell a Brian backstory, or some event which led to a song writing session. 

Do any other band members ever give Mike credit for his lyrics for records that have gone gold or platinum? Just sayin'.

[Mikie]

Mike hasn't been "giving credit" to Brian the whole time. I remember seeing the band live in the 80's and 90's where more than once Mike alluded to the fact (with a somewhat sarcastic tone) that Brian was sitting home while they were "out working".

[HeyJude]

For a guy that has everything, ML is a miserable man.

And he always will be. It's obvious that he believes he deserves the same adulation that Brian does. He does not get that his success, money wise, is because of his first cousin and the timing for him was correct. Honestly, I would have been more than happy to see his ass kicked out of the band before Pet Sounds-after that album he was on his way to being a has been which he is now and has been for decades.

Really? Why is he always publically praising Brian as the genius?

Typical mYke luHv backpedaling or his guilty conscious for being a bad clown.

Oldsurferdude - Mike has been objectively "giving credit, where credit is due," with respect to the team effort of music composition and lyrics, since I remember first seeing the BB's in 1967.  Supposing that he has a "guilty conscience" sounds like "practicing medicine without a license."

Mike continues to say good things about Brian, and probably is under no obligation to do so.  It is his MO, not a new MO but one that has been consistent in my concertgoing experience since the era of Carl's CO status.  

This board has some great members, but some are becoming very subjective and biased.  And, likely much of it is not based in personal first-hand knowledge, nor a product of seeing their shows.  I would bet there are plenty of YouTubes from the 60's that would support Mike's crediting the compositions of his cousin.  As far as the Touring Band shows, I have never seen one show, and I've probably seen at least a hundred, where Mike does not take the time, to tell a Brian backstory, or some event which led to a song writing session.  

Do any other band members ever give Mike credit for his lyrics for records that have gone gold or platinum? Just sayin'.

Mike has usually praised Brian, very true. Well, he occasionally was negative (I'm thinking of his comments about Brian's '88 album for one example), but he has said nice things. I think the issue is when he overplays things about himself. Mike thinks Brian is a genius, but I'm totally convinced he believes "Kokomo" is as much of a landmark achievement as "Pet Sounds." That's the disconnect I see. He thinks he is McCartney to Brian's Lennon. He specifically made that comparison in a recent interview. That comparison I'd say is all kinds of wrong.

[filledeplage]

Mike hasn't been "giving credit" to Brian the whole time. I remember seeing the band live in the 80's and 90's where more than once Mike alluded to the fact (with a somewhat sarcastic tone) that Brian was sitting home while they were "out working".

Mikie - I can only speak for myself and can honestly say I've never heard a bad word about Brian by Mike.  That is my experience.  It seemed to be what they did. Carl would mention Brian often, Mike did, and in that time following Brian's quitting the road, it was emphasized that: first, Brian was there "in spirit" and, that, second, Brian was home "working in behalf of" the Band. 

[drbeachboy]

Mike hasn't been "giving credit" to Brian the whole time. I remember seeing the band live in the 80's and 90's where more than once Mike alluded to the fact (with a somewhat sarcastic tone) that Brian was sitting home while they were "out working".

Mikie - I can only speak for myself and can honestly say I've never heard a bad word about Brian by Mike.  That is my experience.  It seemed to be what they did. Carl would mention Brian often, Mike did, and in that time following Brian's quitting the road, it was emphasized that: first, Brian was there "in spirit" and, that, second, Brian was home "working in behalf of" the Band. 

I have heard Mike make similar comments, but saying something about sitting home versus giving him credit for his musical genius are two entirely different things. Mike has always given Brian his due, musically.

[Mikie]

Brian was home "working in behalf of" the Band".

He may have said the "in spirit" part but I've never heard him say "working on behalf of the band". Maybe in the 60's Mike said that, but not after Brian left the road again in the early 80's.