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Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day
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January 22, 2018, 06:30:16 AM »
Probably not a popular opinion, but I think Til I Die is the last truly special / great song that Brian Wilson wrote for The Beach Boys. (With the possible exception of the closing trio on TWGMTR).
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I will forever love the part of ‘Love and Mercy’ (movie) that uses Mike’s “These things I’ll be until I die” line a cappella. What an awesome film.
In my opinion this is one of Brian Wilson’s most powerful songs. That rhythmic organ, the harmonies. There’s a vocal-only mix (only parts of the song) of this song on YouTube, and the way Carl sings some lines - you can tell he’s really trying to get that feel of hopelessness in the song.
One thing that makes this song as good as it is: the atmosphere of the track. There’s this echo/reverb that makes it sound like it’s being played on top of a windy mountain.
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Today's song is Surf's Up.
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I would love to go back and listen to this song for the very first time. I’m so happy that there are many amazing versions of this song that exist. I love the bass in the coda on this version, I love Brian’s falsetto vocal on the ‘67 version, I love the charm and atmosphere of the BWPS version, and I love the simplicity of the Good Vibrations boxset version.
Anywho, perfect way to close out this album and I give it 5/5. I’d give it more if I could.
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Quote from: mtaber on September 18, 2021, 07:39:15 AM
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I remember hearing "Surf's Up" for the first time in 1971, not long after the album was released.
Like "Feel Flows", it was a shaft of light during a dark period in my life.
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Today we'll discuss the album Surf's Up.
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Quote from: Watamushi(Polly Poller) on January 24, 2018, 12:25:36 AM
Today we'll discuss the album Surf's Up.
My all-time favourite album.
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I love this album for what it represents almost as much as for the music on it. It was like they were finally burying the
Smile
debacle and looking ahead in a new creative direction in the 1970s. If not for a couple clunkers, it would be an easy 5. I had to go with 4.
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Quote from: Mike Garneau on January 21, 2018, 07:29:41 AM
I think she's referring to the coda which Van Dyke sings on.
Yes.
Quote from: Watamushi(Polly Poller) on January 24, 2018, 12:24:46 AM
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I'd be back with "4" as well. It doesn't fit Carl's voice.
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Today's song is 4th of July.
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January 25, 2018, 06:17:59 AM »
Carl’s voice is godlike on this.
This was for the Surf’s Up album right? Would love to have seen Surf’s Up become a double album with all of Dennis’ contributions added.
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Quote from: mtaber on September 18, 2021, 07:39:15 AM
God must’ve smiled the day Brian Wilson was born!
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Quote from: rab2591 on January 25, 2018, 06:17:59 AM
Carl’s voice is godlike on this.
This was for the Surf’s Up album right? Would love to have seen Surf’s Up become a double album with all of Dennis’ contributions added.
I agree. It's kind of shocking that none of Dennis' songs were included on Surf's Up after all his contributions to the previous three albums. What's up with that?
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It's kind of shocking that none of Dennis' songs were included on Surf's Up after all his contributions to the previous three albums. What's up with that?
Check the old threads. Use the search button, type various combinations regarding your question, checkmark as topics or posts - good luck!
In the scale good__bad, "4th of July" will lean towards good. Carl sings it gorgeously & nice track. 4.
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I love the 4th of July album
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Quote from: rab2591 on January 25, 2018, 06:17:59 AM
Carl’s voice is godlike on this.
This was for the Surf’s Up album right? Would love to have seen Surf’s Up become a double album with all of Dennis’ contributions added.
I agree. It's kind of shocking that none of Dennis' songs were included on Surf's Up after all his contributions to the previous three albums. What's up with that?
From what I understand there was a dispute about what songs should close out the album, Dennis wanted ‘Wouldn’t It Be Nice To Live Again’ to close it out, the band wanted ‘Surf’s Up’ to close it out, when the band didn’t give in Dennis pulled all his songs in protest I guess.
I tried to use the search function to find a more concrete answer for this, but the search function on this website sucks - I’m sure you can find the answer that way, but it will take some digging.
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Quote from: mtaber on September 18, 2021, 07:39:15 AM
God must’ve smiled the day Brian Wilson was born!
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It's kind of shocking that none of Dennis' songs were included on Surf's Up after all his contributions to the previous three albums. What's up with that?
Check the old threads. Use the search button, type various combinations regarding your question, checkmark as topics or posts - good luck!
In the scale good__bad, "4th of July" will lean towards good. Carl sings it gorgeously & nice track. 4.
Thanks. Tried that. "No Results Found." I appreciate the discussion, though.
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Quote from: You Kane, You Commanded, You Conquered on January 25, 2018, 09:30:11 AM
I love the 4th of July album
Stunning song, chills down the spine. It should be
required listening
on Independence Day.
Missing Dennis and Carl right now.
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Quote from: rab2591 on January 25, 2018, 11:05:16 AM
Quote from: Gettin Hungry on January 25, 2018, 06:55:55 AM
Quote from: rab2591 on January 25, 2018, 06:17:59 AM
Carl’s voice is godlike on this.
This was for the Surf’s Up album right? Would love to have seen Surf’s Up become a double album with all of Dennis’ contributions added.
I agree. It's kind of shocking that none of Dennis' songs were included on Surf's Up after all his contributions to the previous three albums. What's up with that?
From what I understand there was a dispute about what songs should close out the album, Dennis wanted ‘Wouldn’t It Be Nice To Live Again’ to close it out, the band wanted ‘Surf’s Up’ to close it out, when the band didn’t give in Dennis pulled all his songs in protest I guess.
I tried to use the search function to find a more concrete answer for this, but the search function on this website sucks - I’m sure you can find the answer that way, but it will take some digging.
Yeah, I wouldn't spend too much time searching through old threads for more info on that story. That's pretty much it. I'd love to know how hard the band tried to change his mind or why they didn't simply overrule him. They didn't seem to have a problem releasing Smile material without Brian's blessing. At the time, Dennis probably had ambitions of releasing a solo album, so that may have been a major reason why he'd pull his songs (if they weren't featured the way he'd like) and the band would let him. Still, on some level, I'd think Carl, Mike, Al, and Bruce were all more interested in making sure their own material was released. In a way, it really was their 'white album' period (sorry for the relentless Beatles references, but I only have two points of reference
). I'm a big Dennis fan, so it always bummed me out that Dennis wasn't featured on Surf's Up or In Concert or KTSA. I still haven't got around to reading Ken Sharp's POB book yet, so maybe there will be more there. I skimmed it and read Stan Shapiro's recollections of WIBN(TLA), but there's nothing there to contradict rab2591's summary (the book looks
incredible
, btw).
I gave 4th of July a 3. It feels slightly unfinished to me. It had the potential to be a strong 4, IMO. I'd love some backing vocals in the chorus and I think Carl's double-tracked vocal is too loud in the mix. I love the backing track, especially the sparse outro beginning at 2:02. That's pure Dennis. Actually, it's similar in effect to the Don't Go Near The Water tag. For that reason, I don't think I'd place those tracks back to back. I'm still not sure how I feel about the
Surf's Up
album. I seem to want to tinker with it and "fix" it more than simply admire it. The mixes of some songs on
Surf's Up
and
L.A.
really distract me. I'm not a big fan of Jack Rieley's lyrics. Don't get me wrong, for the most part it works, but then there's a line or two here or there that really bring me out of the song.
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Thanks for the response B.E., I checked Jon Stebbin’s FAQ book and the only thing different from my version was that
Carl
(not the entire band) was the one who wanted the album to close with ‘Surf’s Up’ and not WIBNTLA. There wasn’t a concrete answer to why Dennis pulled his songs from the album, but it’s safe to assume that WIBNTLA not being chosen as the closer was a good reason.
I’ve seen a couple really good alternate tracklists for
Surf’s Up
that include Dennis’ contributions, and man they really do blow the actual released album out of the water (though I still love the released album a lot).
I need to get that POB book, right now the funds aren’t too cool as I’m trying to save some money. But hopefully I can set aside some to purchase that, it sounds phenomenal.
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Quote from: rab2591 on January 25, 2018, 02:03:25 PM
Thanks for the response B.E., I checked Jon Stebbin’s FAQ book and the only thing different from my version was that
Carl
(not the entire band) was the one who wanted the album to close with ‘Surf’s Up’ and not WIBNTLA. There wasn’t a concrete answer to why Dennis pulled his songs from the album, but it’s safe to assume that WIBNTLA not being chosen as the closer was a good reason.
I’ve seen a couple really good alternate tracklists for
Surf’s Up
that include Dennis’ contributions, and man they really do blow the actual released album out of the water (though I still love the released album a lot).
I need to get that POB book, right now the funds aren’t too cool as I’m trying to save some money. But hopefully I can set aside some to purchase that, it sounds phenomenal.
Yeah, the funds weren't too cool on this end either, but I missed out on
The Real Beach Boy
and couldn't bear the thought of missing out again!
If I ever create an alternate Surf's Up tracklist, I like the idea of closing side 1 with WIBN(TLA) and closing side 2 with Surf's Up. Epic!
Also, in the POB book, Shapiro recalls the altercation being specifically between Dennis and Carl (and
probably
Mike). Though, Stan wasn't there.
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Quote from: B.E. on January 25, 2018, 02:19:18 PM
Quote from: rab2591 on January 25, 2018, 02:03:25 PM
Thanks for the response B.E., I checked Jon Stebbin’s FAQ book and the only thing different from my version was that
Carl
(not the entire band) was the one who wanted the album to close with ‘Surf’s Up’ and not WIBNTLA. There wasn’t a concrete answer to why Dennis pulled his songs from the album, but it’s safe to assume that WIBNTLA not being chosen as the closer was a good reason.
I’ve seen a couple really good alternate tracklists for
Surf’s Up
that include Dennis’ contributions, and man they really do blow the actual released album out of the water (though I still love the released album a lot).
I need to get that POB book, right now the funds aren’t too cool as I’m trying to save some money. But hopefully I can set aside some to purchase that, it sounds phenomenal.
Yeah, the funds weren't too cool on this end either, but I missed out on
The Real Beach Boy
and couldn't bear the thought of missing out again!
If I ever create an alternate Surf's Up tracklist, I like the idea of closing side 1 with WIBN(TLA) and closing side 2 with Surf's Up. Epic!
Also, in the POB book, Shapiro recalls the altercation being specifically between Dennis and Carl (and
probably
Mike). Though, Stan wasn't there.
I made my own alternate album of
Surf’s Up
and each side ended like that. Man I wish Dennis had been more open to that song ending side 1...I reckon the band could have a different history in the 70s.
Thanks for the extra info! Hope I get that book soon.
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