Brian Wilson Taping Soundstage Special With Special Guests

[Chocolate Shake Man]

I'm unclear what the problem is.

Me too. Perhaps trying to find fault with something for the sake of finding fault and telling everyone about it? This board deals in that too often. 

D'ya think, GF?!  Nah, not here!;-)

  

Haha, never here, no way...

Bangs...seriously?

Keep in mind that Ontor said "Accept the bangs" not "Except the bangs" -- nobody on this thread has complained about bangs.

And for the record, I think she sounds great.

[LostArt]

Some people aren’t super into the tropical, bossa nova sort of thing.

Fair enough, but bossa nova has nothing to do with tropical.  In this case, the lyrics give the song a tropical vibe because the singer is 'on the island'.  Other posters have said, "I'm not into that Jimmy Buffet, Private Life of Bill and Sue type of music, while referring to "On The Island".  Not the same thing at all.  I've never heard anybody say that they don't like "Busy Doin' Nothin'" because they don't like Jimmy Buffet style island music.   

[HeyJude]

Some people aren’t super into the tropical, bossa nova sort of thing.

Fair enough, but bossa nova has nothing to do with tropical.  In this case, the lyrics give the song a tropical vibe because the singer is 'on the island'.  Other posters have said, "I'm not into that Jimmy Buffet, Private Life of Bill and Sue type of music, while referring to "On The Island".  Not the same thing at all.  I've never heard anybody say that they don't like "Busy Doin' Nothin'" because they don't like Jimmy Buffet style island music.    

I think that's just getting bogged down by the semantics of what a technical definition of a genre of music is or might be. Tropical and Bossa Nova are of course two separate things. If one likes neither, they may not like "On the Island." I can see how someone who doesn't like "Bill and Sue" might not like "On the Island" or "Busy Doin' Nothin'", regardless of the semantics of whether they fall under the same style or genre. They have enough similarities to elicit a similar response based on some folks' tastes.

[Debbie Keil-Leavitt]

I'm unclear what the problem is.

Me too. Perhaps trying to find fault with something for the sake of finding fault and telling everyone about it? This board deals in that too often.  

D'ya think, GF?!  Nah, not here!;-)

   

Haha, never here, no way...

Bangs...seriously?

Keep in mind that Ontor said "Accept the bangs" not "Except the bangs" -- nobody on this thread has complained about bangs.

And for the record, I think she sounds great.

Yes,  know -  was joking with Ontor, which obviously didn't come across.  I know Ontor was kidding.  We all remember Michelle Obama's bangs.  You'd think she had made a change in domestic policy.  She changed a hairstyle.  It's all so weird.

[Mendota Heights]

Brian will rename the album No Pier Posture.

[atroxi]

...and another video is released - this time for Wild Honey! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF9k3I1sQSE

[Mendota Heights]

...and another video is released - this time for Wild Honey! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF9k3I1sQSE

Classy performance!

Stellar!

[ontor pertawst]

Great stuff! A real highlight of that night. Blondie/Ricky/Billy! Fantastic. One tiny minor quibble: let Darian do the solo on keys, Mertens' horn doesn't work as well.

[The LEGENDARY OSD]

Great stuff! A real highlight of that night. Blondie/Ricky/Billy! Fantastic. One tiny minor quibble: let Darian do the solo on keys, Mertens' horn doesn't work as well.

Faneffintastic, man. What an incredible band that team Brian has put together once again! Five whole whoots goin' down on this one, baby! 

[guitarfool2002]

If I'm guilty of doing anything it's trying to share some of my thoughts on a specific style and genre of music that I love, and suggest that some of the opinions and comparisons to other artists might not be accurate or applicable based on the premise. I am a fan of Bossa Nova, especially from the early to mid 60's. I have collected Bossa Nova vinyl, CD's, box sets, etc for several decades and I simply enjoy the music. Keep in mind this is music that for years going back to the 60's was derided and almost dismissed as "easy listening" or "elevator music", yet there were fans of it who ignored all that and simply enjoyed it because it struck a chord. Call it a sub-genre? Call it whatever, but if you're into it, you know the elements of those records and you like to hear them a certain way.

Some might not like the style, that's fine. Some might not like a certain song or performer, that's fine.

But what if a Beach Boys fan here were to play something like Wonderful for a non-fan, and that fan starts bashing it by saying the vocal sounds like Wooly Bully or something similarly disconnected. Many would probably debate that basis of the criticism rather strongly, right? It's the new listeners right to like or not like, but to base a critique on a vocal sounding like Wooly Bully that objectively or subjectively sounds nothing like Wooly Bully to that person who played Wonderful, they'd naturally disagree.

So when I hear Zooey's vocal on the various clips, I hear a very authentic vocal style and delivery that can be heard on many Bossa Nova records. And in some of those records, a style which goes back to Julie London in the mid 50's.

***Listen to Astrud Gilberto from the 60's. Specifically the songs she recorded with Brazilian organist Walter Wanderley, specifically when she sang Jobim with Stan Getz, etc. ***

From what I heard on the clips, Zooey is simply *nailing* that sound, tone, and delivery in her vocal on Brian's Bossa Nova track. Not just that, but the instrumental backing is very authentic to those records I mentioned.

So I see comments comparing it to Blossom Dearie, to me it's linking Wonderful to Wooly Bully. They're simply two different styles. I read comments comparing it to Jimmy Buffett and his brand of tropical music, they're two entirely different styles and sounds. I read comments about Zooey's girly voice and delivery, whatever the case, yet she is singing almost *exactly* the same way as Gilberto and with a damn near perfect emulation of Astrud Gilberto on those classic records from the 60's, and Astrud was the female voice of Bossa Nova for many listeners in that era.

So *I* think it's cool to hear someone doing that very specific vocal sound on an authentic Bossa Nova song and instrumental sound in 2015. It strikes a chord with me. And from how that vocal sounds, I'm guessing Zooey and I may have some of the same 60's vinyl albums in our collections, specifically the Gilberto records. Brian is already known to not only be a fan of Bossa but also be able to apply it very authentically to his own music going back to 1968. And my debate in this case was seeing criticisms whose premise seemed unrelated to what's actually going on in the recording, and where those sounds are coming from.

And if someone gets a chance to hear some of the original recordings I mentioned, I'd hope they'd do so, and maybe the way I commented about them would have more context than what it's being given here based on the reactions.

I do have opinions, and I can voice them as well speaking as a fan. And I will continue to do so.  

[rab2591]

Great stuff! A real highlight of that night. Blondie/Ricky/Billy! Fantastic. One tiny minor quibble: let Darian do the solo on keys, Mertens' horn doesn't work as well.

Faneffintastic, man. What an incredible band that team Brian has put together once again! Five whole whoots goin' down on this one, baby! 

Agreed! This sounds flippin great. I'm really hoping they release a CD of this concert!

[SMiLE Brian]

Great stuff! A real highlight of that night. Blondie/Ricky/Billy! Fantastic. One tiny minor quibble: let Darian do the solo on keys, Mertens' horn doesn't work as well.

Faneffintastic, man. What an incredible band that team Brian has put together once again! Five whole whoots goin' down on this one, baby! 

Agreed! This sounds flippin great. I'm really hoping they release a CD of this concert!

I can't wait to see the soundstage special!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Some folk like coffee, others, like me, don't. Nothing to do with anything bar personal preference. I don't like Deschanel's voice. Simple as that. Doesn't matter to me how "authentic" it might be or how far the tradition goes back... don't like her voice, never will. If you think I'm doing it just for effect, finding a fault just to post about it, fine, I can't make you think otherwise. But permit me my considered opinion, expressed politely and grammatically correctly, without inferring I'm trolling.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

And from how that vocal sounds, I'm guessing Zooey and I may have some of the same 60's vinyl albums in our collections, specifically the Gilberto records.

You guessed correctly.

Some folk like coffee, others, like me, don't. Nothing to do with anything bar personal preference. I don't like Deschanel's voice. Simple as that. Doesn't matter to me how "authentic" it might be or how far the tradition goes back... don't like her voice, never will. If you think I'm doing it just for effect, finding a fault just to post about it, fine, I can't make you think otherwise. But permit me my considered opinion, expressed politely and grammatically correctly, without inferring I'm trolling.

I love coffee!!!

Seriously, though, of course you're entitled to your opinion. Although I happen to be a fan of hers (granted, I'm not going to be the most objective person in that regard, mind you), but not everyone is. No biggie there. Hell, most people dig 'Don't Hurt My Little Sister', and I think it's ass. I don't even care that much for 'In the Back of my Mind', at least the original album version (single tracked vocal version is better, but IMHO would've worked better as an instrumental).  Just like some here hate Runaway Dancer (and one person here even indirectly took a swipe at my  own work while criticizing it), yet I happen to really dig it a lot. So, yeah, I may really be over the moon for On the Island, but I myself am perfectly cool with not everyone being so. On a personal level, I'm just extremely glad that her and Matt finally got to work with Brian...haven't talked to Matt* in about 9 years, but I know that must've been really awesome for him.



*Ward, not Jardine

[ontor pertawst]

Some folks like water, some folks like wine, but I like a taste of straight strychnine! Being a sucker for those Jobim/Sinatra records and Julie London, this hit the spot for me a lot more than "Runaway Dancer..." 

They should appear at the LA show and play it live! And yeah, M. Ward must be awfully happy about it. Someone should interview him about it.

[Zesterz]

That is one great performance of Wild Honey. I want that on DVD. In U K , so no Soundsatge prog to see. Blondie-- indeed whole band-- cooks. One great , fat sound.

[Ray Lawlor]

If I'm guilty of doing anything it's trying to share some of my thoughts on a specific style and genre of music that I love, and suggest that some of the opinions and comparisons to other artists might not be accurate or applicable based on the premise. I am a fan of Bossa Nova, especially from the early to mid 60's. I have collected Bossa Nova vinyl, CD's, box sets, etc for several decades and I simply enjoy the music. Keep in mind this is music that for years going back to the 60's was derided and almost dismissed as "easy listening" or "elevator music", yet there were fans of it who ignored all that and simply enjoyed it because it struck a chord. Call it a sub-genre? Call it whatever, but if you're into it, you know the elements of those records and you like to hear them a certain way.

Some might not like the style, that's fine. Some might not like a certain song or performer, that's fine.

But what if a Beach Boys fan here were to play something like Wonderful for a non-fan, and that fan starts bashing it by saying the vocal sounds like Wooly Bully or something similarly disconnected. Many would probably debate that basis of the criticism rather strongly, right? It's the new listeners right to like or not like, but to base a critique on a vocal sounding like Wooly Bully that objectively or subjectively sounds nothing like Wooly Bully to that person who played Wonderful, they'd naturally disagree.

So when I hear Zooey's vocal on the various clips, I hear a very authentic vocal style and delivery that can be heard on many Bossa Nova records. And in some of those records, a style which goes back to Julie London in the mid 50's.

***Listen to Astrud Gilberto from the 60's. Specifically the songs she recorded with Brazilian organist Walter Wanderley, specifically when she sang Jobim with Stan Getz, etc. ***

From what I heard on the clips, Zooey is simply *nailing* that sound, tone, and delivery in her vocal on Brian's Bossa Nova track. Not just that, but the instrumental backing is very authentic to those records I mentioned.

So I see comments comparing it to Blossom Dearie, to me it's linking Wonderful to Wooly Bully. They're simply two different styles. I read comments comparing it to Jimmy Buffett and his brand of tropical music, they're two entirely different styles and sounds. I read comments about Zooey's girly voice and delivery, whatever the case, yet she is singing almost *exactly* the same way as Gilberto and with a damn near perfect emulation of Astrud Gilberto on those classic records from the 60's, and Astrud was the female voice of Bossa Nova for many listeners in that era.

So *I* think it's cool to hear someone doing that very specific vocal sound on an authentic Bossa Nova song and instrumental sound in 2015. It strikes a chord with me. And from how that vocal sounds, I'm guessing Zooey and I may have some of the same 60's vinyl albums in our collections, specifically the Gilberto records. Brian is already known to not only be a fan of Bossa but also be able to apply it very authentically to his own music going back to 1968. And my debate in this case was seeing criticisms whose premise seemed unrelated to what's actually going on in the recording, and where those sounds are coming from.

And if someone gets a chance to hear some of the original recordings I mentioned, I'd hope they'd do so, and maybe the way I commented about them would have more context than what it's being given here based on the reactions.

I do have opinions, and I can voice them as well speaking as a fan. And I will continue to do so.  

Let me jump in on this.  I am a huge Bossa Nova fan ; the Sinatra / Jobim record is in my all time top five , Julie London; it is a beautiful genre.  Brian cuts authentic Bossa Nova' " Busy Doin' Nothin' " , " S'Wonderful' and now " On the Island". When I first heard it last year , I loved it instantly; simple yet complex with those 11th and 13th chords. I believe at the time I said that the lead vocal reminded me of a young Rosemary Clooney; still does. To be clear , I really like Zooey Deschanel's voice, and I think she authentically executes the true Bossa Nova feel or vibe;.
 
Check out this 1966 recording by Astrud Gilberto and Walter Wanderley, " Samba De Verao" ( Summer Samba) aka "So Nice".  It is almost the exact feel Brian went for in " On the Island"; and Zooey absolutely nails Astrud Gilberto's style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Rm11Bl8xQ

 
 
 
My taste , anyway.   Some people will love it , some people won't ; I don't skip over it, it resonates with me

[The Cincinnati Kid]

Does Soundstage usually release a CD or DVD?  This really does sound like it's going to be an awesome show and I'd love to have a recording of it.

[TonyW]

I want this recording of Wild Honey on constant repeat for the rest of my life!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

If I'm guilty of doing anything it's trying to share some of my thoughts on a specific style and genre of music that I love, and suggest that some of the opinions and comparisons to other artists might not be accurate or applicable based on the premise. I am a fan of Bossa Nova, especially from the early to mid 60's. I have collected Bossa Nova vinyl, CD's, box sets, etc for several decades and I simply enjoy the music. Keep in mind this is music that for years going back to the 60's was derided and almost dismissed as "easy listening" or "elevator music", yet there were fans of it who ignored all that and simply enjoyed it because it struck a chord. Call it a sub-genre? Call it whatever, but if you're into it, you know the elements of those records and you like to hear them a certain way.

Some might not like the style, that's fine. Some might not like a certain song or performer, that's fine.

But what if a Beach Boys fan here were to play something like Wonderful for a non-fan, and that fan starts bashing it by saying the vocal sounds like Wooly Bully or something similarly disconnected. Many would probably debate that basis of the criticism rather strongly, right? It's the new listeners right to like or not like, but to base a critique on a vocal sounding like Wooly Bully that objectively or subjectively sounds nothing like Wooly Bully to that person who played Wonderful, they'd naturally disagree.

So when I hear Zooey's vocal on the various clips, I hear a very authentic vocal style and delivery that can be heard on many Bossa Nova records. And in some of those records, a style which goes back to Julie London in the mid 50's.

***Listen to Astrud Gilberto from the 60's. Specifically the songs she recorded with Brazilian organist Walter Wanderley, specifically when she sang Jobim with Stan Getz, etc. ***

From what I heard on the clips, Zooey is simply *nailing* that sound, tone, and delivery in her vocal on Brian's Bossa Nova track. Not just that, but the instrumental backing is very authentic to those records I mentioned.

So I see comments comparing it to Blossom Dearie, to me it's linking Wonderful to Wooly Bully. They're simply two different styles. I read comments comparing it to Jimmy Buffett and his brand of tropical music, they're two entirely different styles and sounds. I read comments about Zooey's girly voice and delivery, whatever the case, yet she is singing almost *exactly* the same way as Gilberto and with a damn near perfect emulation of Astrud Gilberto on those classic records from the 60's, and Astrud was the female voice of Bossa Nova for many listeners in that era.

So *I* think it's cool to hear someone doing that very specific vocal sound on an authentic Bossa Nova song and instrumental sound in 2015. It strikes a chord with me. And from how that vocal sounds, I'm guessing Zooey and I may have some of the same 60's vinyl albums in our collections, specifically the Gilberto records. Brian is already known to not only be a fan of Bossa but also be able to apply it very authentically to his own music going back to 1968. And my debate in this case was seeing criticisms whose premise seemed unrelated to what's actually going on in the recording, and where those sounds are coming from.

And if someone gets a chance to hear some of the original recordings I mentioned, I'd hope they'd do so, and maybe the way I commented about them would have more context than what it's being given here based on the reactions.

I do have opinions, and I can voice them as well speaking as a fan. And I will continue to do so.  

Let me jump in on this.  I am a huge Bossa Nova fan ; the Sinatra / Jobim record is in my all time top five , Julie London; it is a beautiful genre.  Brian cuts authentic Bossa Nova' " Busy Doin' Nothin' " , " S'Wonderful' and now " On the Island". When I first heard it last year , I loved it instantly; simple yet complex with those 11th and 13th chords. I believe at the time I said that the lead vocal reminded me of a young Rosemary Clooney; still does. To be clear , I really like Zooey Deschanel's voice, and I think she authentically executes the true Bossa Nova feel or vibe;.
 
Check out this 1966 recording by Astrud Gilberto and Walter Wanderley, " Samba De Verao" ( Summer Samba) aka "So Nice".  It is almost the exact feel Brian went for in " On the Island"; and Zooey absolutely nails Astrud Gilberto's style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Rm11Bl8xQ

 
 
 
My taste , anyway.   Some people will love it , some people won't ; I don't skip over it, it resonates with me

Also, Brian mentioned (just yesterday!) that his favorite song off of Pacific Ocean Blue was 'You and I', which has a similar feel, so that definitely rings true.

Great comparison to Rosemary Clooney too, just spot on.

Man, I wish Brian would do a straight up bossa nova album . Certainly has a feel for the genre.


A more recent (relatively...damn, almost 30 years already?!) favorite of mine, from an artist who had covered many many different genres in his career, and one I sadly miss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8g7hfDKwJg  A different take on it (several different styles are mashed in) but still one of my favorites.

Another favorite of mine  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6T_PODAqoc  Just a great album overall.

[HeyJude]

Does Soundstage usually release a CD or DVD?  This really does sound like it's going to be an awesome show and I'd love to have a recording of it.

Scattered “Soundstage” episodes have been released on DVD and/or Blu-ray. Most haven’t I would guess. I think fewer have been issued on CD.

Also, as I mentioned before, this is not a standard episode of “Soundstage” but rather a “Soundstage Special.” It also appears, if the YouTube clips are any indication, that BriMel owns the rights to the show, or at least co-owns the rights. For all we know, BriMel may have produced the show themselves and are just licensing it to PBS (sort of like what was done with the “Doin’ it Again” special in 2012).

My total guess is that there’s at least a decent chance we’ll see this show released on DVD/Blu. If it does happen, it may not happen for awhile. The best immediate hope for those who can’t get it on TV might be if someone manages to get the show up on YouTube for any length of time.

[Zesterz]

Bossa nova would be fine, esp since it seems to suit Brian's voice .

[DonnyL]

I got a bit emotional seeing Blondie & Ricky playing w/ Brian & Al.

[Jesse Reiswig]

I love the way Blondie's right eye closes when he sings certain notes high in his register. 

[Debbie Keil-Leavitt]

If I'm guilty of doing anything it's trying to share some of my thoughts on a specific style and genre of music that I love, and suggest that some of the opinions and comparisons to other artists might not be accurate or applicable based on the premise. I am a fan of Bossa Nova, especially from the early to mid 60's. I have collected Bossa Nova vinyl, CD's, box sets, etc for several decades and I simply enjoy the music. Keep in mind this is music that for years going back to the 60's was derided and almost dismissed as "easy listening" or "elevator music", yet there were fans of it who ignored all that and simply enjoyed it because it struck a chord. Call it a sub-genre? Call it whatever, but if you're into it, you know the elements of those records and you like to hear them a certain way.

Some might not like the style, that's fine. Some might not like a certain song or performer, that's fine.

But what if a Beach Boys fan here were to play something like Wonderful for a non-fan, and that fan starts bashing it by saying the vocal sounds like Wooly Bully or something similarly disconnected. Many would probably debate that basis of the criticism rather strongly, right? It's the new listeners right to like or not like, but to base a critique on a vocal sounding like Wooly Bully that objectively or subjectively sounds nothing like Wooly Bully to that person who played Wonderful, they'd naturally disagree.

So when I hear Zooey's vocal on the various clips, I hear a very authentic vocal style and delivery that can be heard on many Bossa Nova records. And in some of those records, a style which goes back to Julie London in the mid 50's.

***Listen to Astrud Gilberto from the 60's. Specifically the songs she recorded with Brazilian organist Walter Wanderley, specifically when she sang Jobim with Stan Getz, etc. ***

From what I heard on the clips, Zooey is simply *nailing* that sound, tone, and delivery in her vocal on Brian's Bossa Nova track. Not just that, but the instrumental backing is very authentic to those records I mentioned.

So I see comments comparing it to Blossom Dearie, to me it's linking Wonderful to Wooly Bully. They're simply two different styles. I read comments comparing it to Jimmy Buffett and his brand of tropical music, they're two entirely different styles and sounds. I read comments about Zooey's girly voice and delivery, whatever the case, yet she is singing almost *exactly* the same way as Gilberto and with a damn near perfect emulation of Astrud Gilberto on those classic records from the 60's, and Astrud was the female voice of Bossa Nova for many listeners in that era.

So *I* think it's cool to hear someone doing that very specific vocal sound on an authentic Bossa Nova song and instrumental sound in 2015. It strikes a chord with me. And from how that vocal sounds, I'm guessing Zooey and I may have some of the same 60's vinyl albums in our collections, specifically the Gilberto records. Brian is already known to not only be a fan of Bossa but also be able to apply it very authentically to his own music going back to 1968. And my debate in this case was seeing criticisms whose premise seemed unrelated to what's actually going on in the recording, and where those sounds are coming from.

And if someone gets a chance to hear some of the original recordings I mentioned, I'd hope they'd do so, and maybe the way I commented about them would have more context than what it's being given here based on the reactions.

I do have opinions, and I can voice them as well speaking as a fan. And I will continue to do so.  

Let me jump in on this.  I am a huge Bossa Nova fan ; the Sinatra / Jobim record is in my all time top five , Julie London; it is a beautiful genre.  Brian cuts authentic Bossa Nova' " Busy Doin' Nothin' " , " S'Wonderful' and now " On the Island". When I first heard it last year , I loved it instantly; simple yet complex with those 11th and 13th chords. I believe at the time I said that the lead vocal reminded me of a young Rosemary Clooney; still does. To be clear , I really like Zooey Deschanel's voice, and I think she authentically executes the true Bossa Nova feel or vibe;.
 
Check out this 1966 recording by Astrud Gilberto and Walter Wanderley, " Samba De Verao" ( Summer Samba) aka "So Nice".  It is almost the exact feel Brian went for in " On the Island"; and Zooey absolutely nails Astrud Gilberto's style.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0Rm11Bl8xQ

 
 
 
My taste , anyway.   Some people will love it , some people won't ; I don't skip over it, it resonates with me

Also, Brian mentioned (just yesterday!) that his favorite song off of Pacific Ocean Blue was 'You and I', which has a similar feel, so that definitely rings true.

Great comparison to Rosemary Clooney too, just spot on.

Man, I wish Brian would do a straight up bossa nova album . Certainly has a feel for the genre.


A more recent (relatively...damn, almost 30 years already?!) favorite of mine, from an artist who had covered many many different genres in his career, and one I sadly miss. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8g7hfDKwJg  A different take on it (several different styles are mashed in) but still one of my favorites.

Another favorite of mine  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6T_PODAqoc  Just a great album overall.

I've never cared it someone disagreed with my opinions, particularly about music.  If someone doesn't like Bossa Nova or Zooey's voice, why would I personally care?  My problem was with words and phrases like "insipid," "sickeningly cute," and "solipsistic."  I can't imagine what was in the clip that would require such nasty descriptions, and I do wonder if they would have been used for a young male singer.