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Title: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: AM Radio on June 27, 2012, 10:16:55 AM
Article in Billboard discusses new single, possible new LP and future plans in general.

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/beach-boys-talk-another-album-together-1007435152.story?utm_source=most_recent


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on June 27, 2012, 10:46:47 AM
That's amazing! everything seems to look great for the band!
good to know that not only they're thinking to release the rest of the Life Suite but also to keep in mind the track with Carl Wilson (which is Waves Of Love, right? or could it be Don't Fight The Sea?) and to put some Dennis Wilson stuff! excited.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: pixletwin on June 27, 2012, 10:50:26 AM
Also exciting that the Isn't It Time single will be a version with newly recorded lyrics and vocals.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Runaways on June 27, 2012, 11:18:28 AM
Isn't It Thyme


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on June 27, 2012, 11:37:42 AM
Isn't It Timmy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjGs5wkYUcE


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: SloopJohnnyB on June 27, 2012, 12:21:05 PM
Article in Billboard discusses new single, possible new LP and future plans in general.

http://www.billboard.com/#/news/beach-boys-talk-another-album-together-1007435152.story?utm_source=most_recent

Thanks for posting the link. I guess we have to be patient and wait to see whats next. It's OK to post our opinions and concerns, though.

'Isn't It Time' is a good choice for the next single. Looking forward to the new version!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Rocker on June 27, 2012, 12:31:25 PM
And being a new version will give the single more chances to become a hit than if it was the album cut. I can't wait for it and hope they'll promote it with many TV appearances, etc.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on July 03, 2012, 12:05:56 PM
Heavens, just found this thread; pardon me for requesting elsewhere information about the single; I suppose we do not know when it's coming out. . . .looking forward to it for sure.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: TommyPlural on July 03, 2012, 01:14:57 PM
I assume the slight change in lyrics they've been doing at the shows lately are part of the single version. I don't remember specifically what it was but in the bridge at the Pine Knob show there were some changes... "be lovers again" instead of "go steady again" and something else.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Quzi on July 03, 2012, 08:20:23 PM
Seriously, if the powers that be are reading this, quirk up that chorus with horns/strings, get Al on lead, Bruce on the bridge, truncate/spruce up the tag and then sit back and watch it sell a million units :hat


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Ziggy Stardust on July 03, 2012, 08:23:46 PM
Isn't It Time for another single..?!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Wirestone on July 03, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
Seriously, if the powers that be are reading this, quirk up that chorus with horns/strings, get Al on lead, Bruce on the bridge, truncate/spruce up the tag and then sit back and watch it sell a million units :hat

Are you crazy?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Mr. Cohen on July 03, 2012, 08:38:26 PM
As much as I try to imagine it, I can't see how horns or strings could add to the chorus, unless the song was radically restructured/rearranged. It just seems like it would be unnecessarily busy. I think they could make the chorus rock a little harder, though. An electric guitar comes in, but it doesn't hit as hard as it could. Upping the distortion and gain a bit could possibly do wonders. The bridge maybe could use a tasteful synth or fuzzy synth bass, too.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on July 03, 2012, 09:24:09 PM
Love you bass = Amazing addition


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: mabewa on July 03, 2012, 09:25:21 PM
Seriously, if the powers that be are reading this, quirk up that chorus with horns/strings, get Al on lead, Bruce on the bridge, truncate/spruce up the tag and then sit back and watch it sell a million units :hat

I'm all for Al singing as much lead vocals as possible, seeing that he is easily the best vocalist in the band these days, but I really like how Brian, Bruce, Al, Mike and Jeff trade vocals on the existing track. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Runaways on July 03, 2012, 09:37:55 PM
yeah the trade off is key for this song.  Al's part is that much catchier cause of it.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on July 09, 2012, 06:58:53 PM
I just noticed that Mike says they have worked on the bridge, which is my least favorite part of the song, as dear dear Jeff sings alone. Any dispassionate listener would agree that this is a karaoke moment that must be fixed; it is not a BB moment and ought not to be in the song. I respect Jeff as a sideman, friend, lovingly devoted band member, facilitator of this reunion, and nostalgic re-creator of some of Carl's parts, but that bridge is sour and off; please, yes, focus on that part of the song before re-release. Let the BB, for heaven's sake, sing it with Jeff blended and not soloing. Sorry Jeff; I do not mean to be harsh, just honest as a critic.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Summertime Blooz on July 09, 2012, 09:22:38 PM
I just noticed that Mike says they have worked on the bridge, which is my least favorite part of the song, as dear dear Jeff sings alone. Any dispassionate listener would agree that this is a karaoke moment that must be fixed; it is not a BB moment and ought not to be in the song. I respect Jeff as a sideman, friend, lovingly devoted band member, facilitator of this reunion, and nostalgic re-creator of some of Carl's parts, but that bridge is sour and off; please, yes, focus on that part of the song before re-release. Let the BB, for heaven's sake, sing it with Jeff blended and not soloing. Sorry Jeff; I do not mean to be harsh, just honest as a critic.

Hopefully they do  something to sweeten Brian's opening few lines of the song as well.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 09, 2012, 09:35:22 PM
No thanks. Sounds fine to me.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Jim V. on July 09, 2012, 10:07:18 PM
I'm gonna assume that the "single version" of "Isn't It Time" is going to be on the upcoming hits album, along with the "hits" and some new/unreleased songs, thereby giving hardcore fans like us another reason to buy it.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 09, 2012, 10:37:34 PM
We are talking the Beach Boys here.

Never assume! ;D


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on July 10, 2012, 12:04:02 AM
I'm still not into the idea of Jeff having so many lead spots on the album (mainly for the reasons stated by the professor), so I'm glad to hear the bridge has been changed to involve harmonies from the band.

I could totally picture horns in this song.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Pretty Funky on July 10, 2012, 10:23:29 PM
Is this the first video of the new version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GulPkzOC_qA

Mike with Jeff on the bridge, the switching of 'use' to 'like' plus others.

Sorry if it has been mentioned in gig threads.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Aegir on July 11, 2012, 01:40:50 AM
yeah, they've been playing it like that for a few weeks now.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: STE on July 11, 2012, 02:00:43 AM


Actually it's the first time I hear the "like" instead of "used".
But yes, they are singing the new bridge for some time now.



Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: hypehat on July 11, 2012, 02:08:19 AM
On the NPR 'concert', they play the studio track of Isn't It Time with some electric guitar overdubs in the chorus too. I assume they'll be on it.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Aegir on July 11, 2012, 02:29:29 AM
oh, I guess I jumped the gun in correcting you. I don't like "like", I think "used" is a lot better, makes it sound more sad.

they're going to tinker with this song more than Al and Loop de Loop!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: send me a picture and i'll tell you on July 11, 2012, 05:11:35 AM
Is this the first video of the new version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GulPkzOC_qA

Mike with Jeff on the bridge, the switching of 'use' to 'like' plus others.

Sorry if it has been mentioned in gig threads.

The new version was first performed on 6/15 in Columbia, MD. The band was given the new words at the soundcheck that day.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Quzi on July 11, 2012, 06:54:55 AM
I'm not against the vocal tradeoff, Bruce's chorus part and Mike's chorus after the bridge are both sublime and I definitely wouldn't want them culled. Al just has the strongest and commercial sounding voice in the group. If they really want to send this single in with the best chance, Al's the way to go imo.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Runaways on July 11, 2012, 06:59:09 AM
but i think al's voice is used best where it is, on the catchiest part of the song (for me).


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Nicko1234 on July 11, 2012, 07:12:20 AM
Perhaps it`s just me but this song is still fairly dull and predictable to me. The latest live renditions are almost sleep-inducing.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Summertime Blooz on July 11, 2012, 09:52:18 AM
Is this the first video of the new version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GulPkzOC_qA

Mike with Jeff on the bridge, the switching of 'use' to 'like' plus others.

Sorry if it has been mentioned in gig threads.

Brian sounds better in this performance than he sounds on the album- hopefully they will re-record or over-dub his part before this sucker is released as a single.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on July 13, 2012, 12:24:41 PM
Is this the first video of the new version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GulPkzOC_qA

Mike with Jeff on the bridge, the switching of 'use' to 'like' plus others.

Sorry if it has been mentioned in gig threads.

Brian sounds better in this performance than he sounds on the album- hopefully they will re-record or over-dub his part before this sucker is released as a single.

I just saw this July 3rd performance on youtube with the new lyrics on the bridge--and some more layered vocals, but notice that Al is back to singing "used to do" instead the the (false and vacuous) "like to do."  Heavens, someone must have wisely emended this proposed change, which had made the emotion of the song incoherent, as one member here intimated wisely above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaWrMX-ssdI

update: I had the dates wrong:  "like to do" (I hate it) is more recent than "used to do."

Still dying to hear the single. . .


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on July 13, 2012, 12:39:35 PM
Is this the first video of the new version?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GulPkzOC_qA

Mike with Jeff on the bridge, the switching of 'use' to 'like' plus others.

Sorry if it has been mentioned in gig threads.

Brian sounds better in this performance than he sounds on the album- hopefully they will re-record or over-dub his part before this sucker is released as a single.

I think it sounds so good because for the first few lines, Brian is singing along with a pre-recorded version of himself (that's just what it sounds like to me, that's not a fact!!). Which kind of lends to a double-tracking effect.


Title: new PBS special in the works?
Post by: the professor on July 14, 2012, 11:10:52 AM
During the IIT (first new version)  video, the BB mention a PBS special; this is not obviously the completed Front Row Center, so will there be an extended show, with all the bagging for money and all that? I had not heard of that, but of course I will pay any price for the "whole show" with footage not in the special as shown, which is how they always structure the gifts for contributions.

any word on that?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on July 18, 2012, 09:44:35 AM
To tediously repeat a question that perhaps cannot now be answered: any word on when the new single comes out?  Odd not to do so before leaving the country?

thanks


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Lowbacca on July 18, 2012, 10:11:20 AM
To tediously repeat a question that perhaps cannot now be answered: any word on when the new single comes out?  Odd not to do so before leaving the country?

thanks
No official word yet. Late summer, maybe? TWGMTR (the single) hasn't been out for so long, after all.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Shady on July 18, 2012, 10:13:43 AM
TWGMTR is still hanging in the top 50 this week, at #48 I think another 7k sold..

I really think if "isn't it time" gets the right promo it will push the album back up. Very radio friendly song, they need to release it ASAP


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on July 18, 2012, 10:29:22 AM
Thanks lads.  I suppose we all have our eyes open for that development. ASAP sounds good; I see no notice at all on thebeachboys.com, which is slow about news.

Top 50 for 6 weeks?  How does that stack up? Better than Madonna and Neil Young with their recent releases? With the US tour over, they need a boost, and the single will do that.

byw:

did the BB ever make peace with Chuck Berry?



Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: punkinhead on July 18, 2012, 10:33:31 AM
Is it me or does this song sound like a good outtake from the Summer In Paradise album?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Lowbacca on July 18, 2012, 10:34:14 AM
Is it me or does this song sound like a good outtake from the Summer In Paradise album?
Or The Beach Boys [1985].


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Wirestone on July 18, 2012, 10:39:30 AM
I really think if "isn't it time" gets the right promo it will push the album back up. Very radio friendly song, they need to release it ASAP

With TWGMTR just making the AC charts within the last couple of weeks, I doubt they're in any hurry.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on July 18, 2012, 11:03:18 AM
Hmm the article is encouraging, but it does seem to imply we may get a re-recorded version of the unreleased Dennis track rather than an original recording, which would be appalling! In fact, if it's WIBNTLA - and they do a new recording of it rather than releasing the original - then i think it's safe to say i wont be the only one who'll be tearing my hair out in frustration!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Shady on July 18, 2012, 11:53:04 AM
I really think if "isn't it time" gets the right promo it will push the album back up. Very radio friendly song, they need to release it ASAP

With TWGMTR just making the AC charts last week within the last couple of weeks, I doubt they're in any hurry.

It did? Just last week..

That's very cool


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: musicismylife101 on July 18, 2012, 02:10:32 PM


With TWGMTR just making the AC charts last week within the last couple of weeks, I doubt they're in any hurry.
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It did? Just last week..

That's very cool
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http://www.billboard.com/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-whitney-houston-pentatonix-1007510352.story#/column/chartbeat/weekly-chart-notes-whitney-houston-pentatonix-1007510352.story


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Rocker on July 18, 2012, 02:30:48 PM
If "Isn't it time" is released as a single I'm sure it is because after the succes of the album they still want to have a single hit. The first single didn't do anything because no one really knew that it was out and a CD still hasn't been released. The promotion for the single was not big enough. I hope they'll make it right with "Isn't it time". The song has very much potential and with all that's goin' on right now it could become a hit. But that also means that they'll have to do TV appearances to promote the song. That probably won't be possible while they are on tour in Europe, Australia and Japan. I still hope they will appear on german TV show "Wetten dass...?" but I don't know when it will go on air again as they had to start all over again after Thomas Gottschalk quit.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Lowbacca on July 18, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
If "Isn't it time" is released as a single I'm sure it is because after the succes of the album they still want to have a single hit. The first single didn't do anything because no one really knew that it was out and a CD still hasn't been released. The promotion for the single was not big enough. I hope they'll make it right with "Isn't it time". The song has very much potential and with all that's goin' on right now it could become a hit. But that also means that they'll have to do TV appearances to promote the song. That probably won't be possible while they are on tour in Europe, Australia and Japan. I still hope they will appear on german TV show "Wetten dass...?" but I don't know when it will go on air again as they had to start all over again after Thomas Gottschalk quit.
That'd be a reason to watch "Wetten, dass...?" for the first time in ages. At least for me.
I still recall Take That having one of their last appearances (or the last one?) on "Wetten, dass...?" before the announced break-up in the 90s.  ;D


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Rocker on July 18, 2012, 02:40:57 PM
If "Isn't it time" is released as a single I'm sure it is because after the succes of the album they still want to have a single hit. The first single didn't do anything because no one really knew that it was out and a CD still hasn't been released. The promotion for the single was not big enough. I hope they'll make it right with "Isn't it time". The song has very much potential and with all that's goin' on right now it could become a hit. But that also means that they'll have to do TV appearances to promote the song. That probably won't be possible while they are on tour in Europe, Australia and Japan. I still hope they will appear on german TV show "Wetten dass...?" but I don't know when it will go on air again as they had to start all over again after Thomas Gottschalk quit.
That'd be a reason to watch "Wetten, dass...?" for the first time in ages. At least for me.
I still recall Take That having one of their last appearances (or the last one?) on "Wetten, dass...?" before the announced break-up in the 90s.  ;D


I can't remember when the last time was I really wanted to see the show. Probably around '99. But I believe it's still the biggest TV show in Europe.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Zach95 on July 18, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
I really think if "isn't it time" gets the right promo it will push the album back up. Very radio friendly song, they need to release it ASAP

With TWGMTR just making the AC charts within the last couple of weeks, I doubt they're in any hurry.

I've read the article, but cannot find it on the AC charts. Did I miss something, or has the chart not been updated yet?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on July 27, 2012, 07:24:17 PM
How will we hear about the release of the new single?  With the BB overseas and the album now 87 on the Billboard charts, we are in a kind of lull. I think it's time for the next single release and the promise of an new album of new material.

I have no access, evidently, to the AC charts, which do not appear on the free Billboard site, so I am not sure if the title track is still charting.

Thebb.com site is slow about all news and looks only good for selling stuff.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: AM Radio on July 27, 2012, 07:37:51 PM
I'm keeping an eye out.  TWGMTR was released just over a month ago so IIT will probably come out in mid-late August.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: mabewa on July 28, 2012, 12:15:47 AM
If they want it to be a hit, it would be good if they would, like, play it live.  Because they seem to have dropped it from their European shows, for some unfathomable reason. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: brother john on August 21, 2012, 02:02:15 AM
Anything new on this? Is it still planned as a single?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: stack-o-tracks on August 21, 2012, 02:30:59 AM
maybe i dreamed it, but i think the new single version is supposed to be included on the new greatest hits set coming out in september which also coincides with isn't it time being released as the new single.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: MBE on August 21, 2012, 03:14:32 AM
It sounds great on the vinyl pressing, I wonder if this new version will measure up. I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: AM Radio on August 21, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
Anything new on this? Is it still planned as a single?

It hasn't been released yet - I anticipate that it will be out by end of this month.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 23, 2012, 07:07:40 AM
I wonder if Amazon and I tunes will offer new download of the new single? No listing on Amazon as yet. We are all anxious,  I imagine,  about how to get it before the 50 big ones album. Just dying to hear the added BBC voices and, I hope, David on more guitar.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on August 24, 2012, 03:02:55 AM
I hope there will be another 7", with the instrumental on the flip again  >:D


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Runaways on August 24, 2012, 04:48:59 AM
Anything new on this? Is it still planned as a single?

It hasn't been released yet - I anticipate that it will be out by end of this month.

pretty sure it's end of september. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 24, 2012, 05:36:47 AM
I'm puzzled as to why, in this case and several others, second singles are released, like, five or six months after the first single? This happens so frigging often and, unfortunately, seems to totally kill initial momentum behind an album's promotion. Like, I just can't see anyone beyond us giving a sh*t about "Isn't It Time" as a single at this point even though the song is great.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: MBE on August 24, 2012, 06:01:55 AM
I hope there will be another 7", with the instrumental on the flip again  >:D
Only way I'd get excited.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Rocker on August 24, 2012, 06:44:38 AM
I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.

It sounds like a hit. I guess it depends on the way it'll be promoted. There was too much cloudiness around the TWGMTR-single release so that nobody really knew if it was released as a single or not. I think it could've been a hit as well if they'd tout it more 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: The Shift on August 24, 2012, 06:49:45 AM
I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.

It sounds like a hit. I guess it depends on the way it'll be promoted. There was too much cloudiness around the TWGMTR-single release so that nobody really knew if it was released as a single or not. I think it could've been a hit as well if they'd tout it more 

Agreed-  I've only just found out today that I have an outstanding order for the CD version of the TWGMTR single at amazon.de… had forgotten all about it.  According to the site it's due in December… wouldn't it be nice if they had the Christmas Number 1???


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: c-man on August 24, 2012, 10:49:20 AM
Anything new on this? Is it still planned as a single?

It hasn't been released yet - I anticipate that it will be out by end of this month.

pretty sure it's end of september. 

From Beach Boys Examiner:  "Also on the boards is a career-spanning 2CD box and digital collection titled “Greatest Hits: 50 Big Ones” that will include two songs from their reunion album “That’s Why God Made The Radio,” including the title track, and a new single version of “Isn't It Time.” That new version will also be issued to radio stations for airplay in September."


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: GuyOnTheBeach on August 24, 2012, 10:51:46 AM
I know recording of it hadn't finished by then but I think Isn't it Time should have been brought out at the end of July, it's a nice summer song without being too cliché


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Mikie on August 24, 2012, 11:09:42 AM
Was listening to the "Deep Tracks" channel on Sirius/XM last night.  DJ Dan Near played the '68 version of Do It Again, then announced the next Beach Boys single and played "Isn't It Time".


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on August 24, 2012, 11:26:14 AM
Was listening to the "Deep Tracks" channel on Sirius/XM last night.  DJ Dan Near played the '68 version of Do It Again, then announced the next Beach Boys single and played "Isn't It Time".

i assume it was the original version?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Mikie on August 24, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Assume they played the version off the TWGMTR album but maybe they had a CD single, I dunno.  I'm not real hot for the song myself but I was real surprised to hear it on "Deep Tracks".  Like the 60's channel though, they did play TWGMTR back in early July.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Aegir on August 24, 2012, 11:59:05 AM
in the single version the words were re-done in the bridge, like the way they play it live.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Mikie on August 24, 2012, 01:18:22 PM
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. If I woulda known that I'd have given you an accurate answer about which version I heard last night.

Thanks for the heads-up.   It's kinda rare that you hear a new Beach Boys song on the radio anyway.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: ArtVandalay on August 24, 2012, 08:59:20 PM
Assume they played the version off the TWGMTR album but maybe they had a CD single, I dunno.  I'm not real hot for the song myself but I was real surprised to hear it on "Deep Tracks".  Like the 60's channel though, they did play TWGMTR back in early July.

I heard "Strange World" on Deep Tracks on my way to work one morning last week.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Awesoman on August 24, 2012, 10:39:47 PM
I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.

It sounds like a hit. I guess it depends on the way it'll be promoted. There was too much cloudiness around the TWGMTR-single release so that nobody really knew if it was released as a single or not. I think it could've been a hit as well if they'd tout it more 

I think "Isn't It Time" is a pretty good song, but I can't agree with the consensus that it really makes for a good single.  I just can't picture hearing this song on the radio.  The quirky, mid-tempo beat is simply not "Adult Contemporary" enough.  Maybe the revised version will make it a stronger contender though. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 25, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.

It sounds like a hit. I guess it depends on the way it'll be promoted. There was too much cloudiness around the TWGMTR-single release so that nobody really knew if it was released as a single or not. I think it could've been a hit as well if they'd tout it more 

I think "Isn't It Time" is a pretty good song, but I can't agree with the consensus that it really makes for a good single.  I just can't picture hearing this song on the radio.  The quirky, mid-tempo beat is simply not "Adult Contemporary" enough.  Maybe the revised version will make it a stronger contender though. 

Hopefully this doesn't sound naive, but why should they always be aiming for the adult contemporary crowd?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Awesoman on August 25, 2012, 05:01:22 PM
I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.

It sounds like a hit. I guess it depends on the way it'll be promoted. There was too much cloudiness around the TWGMTR-single release so that nobody really knew if it was released as a single or not. I think it could've been a hit as well if they'd tout it more 

I think "Isn't It Time" is a pretty good song, but I can't agree with the consensus that it really makes for a good single.  I just can't picture hearing this song on the radio.  The quirky, mid-tempo beat is simply not "Adult Contemporary" enough.  Maybe the revised version will make it a stronger contender though. 

Hopefully this doesn't sound naive, but why should they always be aiming for the adult contemporary crowd?

Because I don't think they'd fit in too well with the hip hop crowd. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 25, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.

It sounds like a hit. I guess it depends on the way it'll be promoted. There was too much cloudiness around the TWGMTR-single release so that nobody really knew if it was released as a single or not. I think it could've been a hit as well if they'd tout it more 

I think "Isn't It Time" is a pretty good song, but I can't agree with the consensus that it really makes for a good single.  I just can't picture hearing this song on the radio.  The quirky, mid-tempo beat is simply not "Adult Contemporary" enough.  Maybe the revised version will make it a stronger contender though. 

Hopefully this doesn't sound naive, but why should they always be aiming for the adult contemporary crowd?

Because I don't think they'd fit in too well with the hip hop crowd. 

lawl, I'm just Saiyan that "Isn't It Time" isn't an AC-ish track and I don't see why they'd aim that specific song at that specific crowd as a single. Or if they do really push it in that direction, they're out of their Gosh Darn minds, I guess.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: mr_oleary on August 25, 2012, 05:57:40 PM
Cool to see Mike and Joe Thomas are eager to release more material.  But like always, if Brian isn't feeling up to it the results could be disastrous.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Awesoman on August 25, 2012, 07:19:29 PM
I actually hope it's a hit though I doubt it.

It sounds like a hit. I guess it depends on the way it'll be promoted. There was too much cloudiness around the TWGMTR-single release so that nobody really knew if it was released as a single or not. I think it could've been a hit as well if they'd tout it more 

I think "Isn't It Time" is a pretty good song, but I can't agree with the consensus that it really makes for a good single.  I just can't picture hearing this song on the radio.  The quirky, mid-tempo beat is simply not "Adult Contemporary" enough.  Maybe the revised version will make it a stronger contender though. 

Hopefully this doesn't sound naive, but why should they always be aiming for the adult contemporary crowd?

Because I don't think they'd fit in too well with the hip hop crowd. 

lawl, I'm just Saiyan that "Isn't It Time" isn't an AC-ish track and I don't see why they'd aim that specific song at that specific crowd as a single. Or if they do really push it in that direction, they're out of their Gosh Darn minds, I guess.

Well where else are they going to push it?  Face it, AC is really the only place they're going to have a chance at airplay. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Sheriff John Stone on August 25, 2012, 07:27:47 PM
"Summer's Gone" should be the new single, released right now.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 25, 2012, 10:49:31 PM
Cool to see Mike and Joe Thomas are eager to release more material.  But like always, if Brian isn't feeling up to it the results could be disastrous.

What is this post responding to?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: mr_oleary on August 26, 2012, 12:23:28 PM
Cool to see Mike and Joe Thomas are eager to release more material.  But like always, if Brian isn't feeling up to it the results could be disastrous.

What is this post responding to?

The article linked in the first post.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 26, 2012, 04:48:20 PM
Cool to see Mike and Joe Thomas are eager to release more material.  But like always, if Brian isn't feeling up to it the results could be disastrous.

What is this post responding to?

The article linked in the first post.

Yes, I see now thanks; I agree and am focused on the hope for more work. TWG was deeply satisfying, but I want to see it as a test effort; I really want to hear from Bruce, Dave and Al creatively, and I want less Jeff and more Dave. And I want a song at the level of "KMB" from Mike and Brian.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Lonely Summer on August 27, 2012, 12:36:15 AM
"Summer's Gone" should be the new single, released right now.
I could go for that - although Spring Vacation is the one stuck in my head now.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: STE on August 27, 2012, 07:04:00 AM
This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different lyrics (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the "updated" live version they used to play towards the end of the US tour.




Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 27, 2012, 07:24:44 AM


This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the live version they use to play towards the end of the US tour.




Single-tracked Brian vocal on the album justifies Jeff shadowing him here. Y'know, whatever man, Brian's gonna f*** up somehow.

Don't know how this version eluded me - anyone have a link to the latest revision? Not a fan of these new lyrics, from what I can hear.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 27, 2012, 08:07:12 AM
They replaced "all of those things we used to do" first with "all of those things we like to do" and now "all of those things I (and later we) want  to do."  This converts the pre-chorus from nostalgia to desire: I can live with that. 

The repeat of "isn't it time" at the end of the chorus is re-written too: there is no more "ready" nor "steady"; they no longer say "be lovers again," just "be lovers."

So frustrating that the person filming struggles to see who is singing what and misses Bruce's vocal. But I appreciate the effort.

But most importantly, Mike replaces Jeff on the opening of the bridge ("and as the sun goes down" [no more "raise a glass"]. For this,  thank high holy God in heaven. . . .a dream come true. I was jumping to turn the volume down every time Jeff came in with that solo part. . . . .If this was Mike's decision then I salute his commercial and musical instincts. But I suspect that any wise listener would make the same conclusion, even Jeff himself.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: EgoHanger1966 on August 27, 2012, 09:15:46 AM


This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the live version they use to play towards the end of the US tour.




Single-tracked Brian vocal on the album justifies Jeff shadowing him here. Y'know, whatever man, Brian's gonna f*** up somehow.

Don't know how this version eluded me - anyone have a link to the latest revision? Not a fan of these new lyrics, from what I can hear.

I'm convinced they are playing a recorded Brian or Brian & Jeff vocal, and then Brian sings over that. That's what it sounds like, anyway.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Autotune on August 27, 2012, 09:31:04 AM


This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the live version they use to play towards the end of the US tour.




Single-tracked Brian vocal on the album justifies Jeff shadowing him here. Y'know, whatever man, Brian's gonna f*** up somehow.

Don't know how this version eluded me - anyone have a link to the latest revision? Not a fan of these new lyrics, from what I can hear.

I'm convinced they are playing a recorded Brian or Brian & Jeff vocal, and then Brian sings over that. That's what it sounds like, anyway.

It's Brian + Jeff singing live.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: oldsurferdude on August 27, 2012, 09:40:10 AM

This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the "updated" live version they used to play towards the end of the US tour.



They shoulda cleaned up Myke's horrendous perormance on this-how embarrassing is that? :o


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Michael Edwards Love on August 27, 2012, 09:48:26 AM

This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the "updated" live version they used to play towards the end of the US tour.




Bruce sounds great on this one.  I can't pick him out on the album version.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: FatherOfTheMan Sr101 on August 27, 2012, 09:58:47 AM

This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the "updated" live version they used to play towards the end of the US tour.



They shoulda cleaned up Myke's horrendous perormance on this-how embarrassing is that? :o

That's the way the song was written, not mike.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Zach95 on August 27, 2012, 10:14:50 AM
I dig the new version. Note the lack of Jeff's "isn't it time" falsetto, that phrase is now shared by Mike and Al.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: phirnis on August 27, 2012, 10:58:10 AM
Great to hear Mike on the bridge. That said, I didn't mind the nostalgic feel of the original lyrics at all. Now it all seems a bit contrived. Still clearly a good song though!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 27, 2012, 10:59:37 AM
Great to hear Mike on the bridge. That said, I didn't mind the nostalgic feel of the original lyrics at all. Now it all seems a bit contrived. Still clearly a good song though!

Agreed @ all.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Summertime Blooz on August 27, 2012, 12:02:17 PM
I like the changes. Hopefully this means that Brian's original intro vocals have been reworked/replaced.  Maybe the whole danged song has been re-recorded.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 27, 2012, 12:03:59 PM
Maybe the whole danged song has been re-recorded.

Hope that's not the case.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: oldsurferdude on August 27, 2012, 12:35:55 PM

This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the "updated" live version they used to play towards the end of the US tour.



They shoulda cleaned up Myke's horrendous perormance on this-how embarrassing is that? :o

That's the way the song was written, not mike.
Oh, I see-you mean he's supposed to sing off key and be nearly inaudible for his part of the song?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Runaways on August 27, 2012, 01:03:54 PM
i prefer "used to do" to "want to do" but that's nitpicky i suppose.

I hope they didn't overdo the song though.  I really liked how the "isn't it time" part was just two voices.  the sparseness adds to the quality of the track. please don't over produce it!  and i reaaally don't trust Mike pulling off the bridge well on the album. we'll see.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 27, 2012, 01:13:44 PM
i prefer "used to do" to "want to do" but that's nitpicky i suppose.

Not at all - there's a world of difference.

Quote
I hope they didn't overdo the song though.  I really liked how the "isn't it time" part was just two voices.  the sparseness adds to the quality of the track. please don't over produce it!  and i reaaally don't trust Mike pulling off the bridge well on the album. we'll see.

I trust him more than I do Jeff.

Otherwise, agreed.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Pretty Funky on August 27, 2012, 04:24:12 PM

This is probably the first known live recording of the actual single version:

http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM (http://youtu.be/r_XGVJmXEWM)

Note the different (Al's) and the very different bridge.
Also note that is different both from the album version AND the "updated" live version they used to play towards the end of the US tour.




Bruce sounds great on this one.  I can't pick him out on the album version.


He's working his ass off on my album version!!! ???


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Justin on August 27, 2012, 04:30:50 PM
I like the new version.  It's less Jeff and more emphasis on Mike and just keeping it within the Beach Boys.  Mike still seems a bit timid with the bridge...his vocal is a bit weak.  I'm sure a few more performances and he'll beef that section up a bit.  Can't wait to hear the official single!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 27, 2012, 04:36:29 PM
I like the new version.  It's less Jeff and more emphasis on Mike and just keeping it within the Beach Boys.  Mike still seems a bit timid with the bridge...his vocal is a bit weak.  I'm sure a few more performances and he'll beef that section up a bit.  Can't wait to hear the official single!

Yes, as the professor says above--and it's worth repeating--the long-sought for de-fosckettization of the song is a dream come true: it was un-listenable for those few seconds to any astute listener or to anyone with ears. Jeff is good with Brian in the opening, serving as a support, but as a soloist?  Not with 5 BB still standing.  I am thrilled and counting the days, which would be easier if I knew when to stop, until the next single.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Gohi on August 28, 2012, 06:34:03 AM
I'm afraid I can't sign off on most of these changes. I preferred the slightly bittersweet feel that "the things we USED to do" brought to the song. I do like that Foskett doesn't sing the bridge anymore. That part always made me wanna cover my ears. I just think this new version has removed a lot of the emotion that the original had. Darn shame.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: southbay on August 28, 2012, 07:33:41 AM
I like Love on the bridge but dislike the new lyrics.  It appears Mike has "Kokomo'd" the lyrics, taking them from sounding like an old man thinking about his past to make it sound more present, something the "young people" can relate to.  The difference is that now they really are old men thinking about their past and the original lyrics fit in perfectly with the rest of the entire album.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: musicismylife101 on August 28, 2012, 07:50:40 AM
I agree that the new lyrics alter the meaning of the song. It doesn't have that same feeling of nostalgia as the original. Plus the new lyrics feel somewhat out of place in the song. Isn't the song about nostalgia and remembering the good times? Maybe the change in lyrics had something to do with the song's commercial appeal-maybe nostalgic songs won't appeal to the public as much as a song related to younger people? I don't know, but hopefully they know what they're doing.

I also agree about the changes on the bridge. I don't mind Jeff's voice too much as long as he's in the background but his vocals on the bridge sound out of place. As a background vocalist, he's good, but as a lead vocalist with the others backing up, he doesn't sound well. Not bashing him but I prefer to hear the BBs over him.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 28, 2012, 08:36:29 AM
Those of you missing "used to do" are right; I believe, as I wrote month ago as as intimated by an insightful post by rangrover (right?), that it's the fitness of the lyric and melody, what new critical scholars call the "sound and the sense."

"Used to do" contains three stressed long u: vowels, creating an onomatopoetic effect, a great groan from the diaphragm of loss and longing: u: u: u:, with a melisma on the final sound.  The long a: of "want" in "want to do" changes the color and tone of this and makes the rest of the narrative a bit strained for coherence. On the other hand, to try to spin it, we can read the change as the infusion of more future directed "desire" to supplement the "memory."  Mike is here thinking, obviously, of TS Eliot.

Let's hear the studio magic of the new bridge and then see how Mike did on that. Jeff's departure from the bridge is not a personal attack but an aesthetic judgment. If I had the chance to act so hubristically to impose myself on a BB record, I would soon regret it, and I suspect Jeff has. As with the lost wax method, he served as part of the construction of this art, and now let the master complete it.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: pixletwin on August 28, 2012, 09:08:29 AM
I would rather hear Christian Love do the bridge than Jeff or Mike.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Aegir on August 28, 2012, 01:18:52 PM
well, he's not part of the reunion band. I'd rather hear Carl do it! or Zeus!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: pixletwin on August 28, 2012, 01:26:54 PM
I always pictured Zeus has having more of a baritone voice actually.  :p


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 28, 2012, 01:46:26 PM
Why would an aging couple raise their glass to kindness, anyway? I don't get that part.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Aegir on August 28, 2012, 01:48:02 PM
because it's the bridge.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Custom Machine on August 28, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
Personally, I'm glad they took my advice and changed "It's it time we be lovers again" to "Isn't it time we be lovers", although "isn't it time we be lovers and then ..." would be even better.  Also, "How about doin' it just like yesterday" should be changed to "How about doin' like this everyday".


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Generation42 on August 28, 2012, 03:22:50 PM
I know the appeal of "Isn't it Time" is, for some, rooted in its sense of appreciating the pleasant memories of the narrator, but nostalgia is already served to such wondrous effect on the album at the close of the suite numbers, and even with the changes here, it's still well represented on the song (what with "how about doin' it just like yesterday" and "little did we know how the time would fly," etc), such that I don't feel anything is lost with the alterations I hear in the live clip from Singapore - quite the opposite, in fact.

On the original, the one thing that always sounded incongruous with the twisting, suggestive pulse of the tune was the lack of any desire in the message.  The change to "I want to do," to me, now subtley shifts the tone of the lyric from a light-hearted, wistful look back, to one where this older couples' reminiscing now leads to a sense of actual arousal.  No reason the grey can't still get it on!  Bring on the new recording.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 28, 2012, 09:12:34 PM
I know the appeal of "Isn't it Time" is, for some, rooted in its sense of appreciating the pleasant memories of the narrator, but nostalgia is already served to such wondrous effect on the album at the close of the suite numbers, and even with the changes here, it's still well represented on the song (what with "how about doin' it just like yesterday" and "little did we know how the time would fly," etc), such that I don't feel anything is lost with the alterations I hear in the live clip from Singapore - quite the opposite, in fact.

On the original, the one thing that always sounded incongruous with the twisting, suggestive pulse of the tune was the lack of any desire in the message.  The change to "I want to do," to me, now subtley shifts the tone of the lyric from a light-hearted, wistful look back, to one where this older couples' reminiscing now leads to a sense of actual arousal.  No reason the grey can't still get it on!  Bring on the new recording.

Very good analysis, Generation42! I am not quite ready to assign this song next to Shakespeare's sonnets, but this kind of subtle analysis really gets at the meaning of pop songs and why we listen and feel the way we do, especially as we get older and hear the "inaudible foot of time."  Can't wait to hear to new song, based on all the comments we have made about its revision. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Summertime Blooz on August 28, 2012, 10:55:31 PM
No reason why the two versions can't co-exist peacefully wuth the album version's more nostalgic meaning tying in neatly with the other songs and the single version being a sexier version about getting it on. I see a Viagra commercial with this song happening in the not-too-distant future. :-D


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Generation42 on August 29, 2012, 10:59:40 AM
Thanks, professor.  Yes, I'm quite eager to hear it, as well.

And you know, krabklaw, I can't lie to you - I was chuckling to myself a little as I was writing my post last night, imagining the offers from Viagara, Cialis and Levitra pouring in, Mike and Bruce high-fiving one another to proclamations of "We're back, baby!"  I see Al sitting on a stool, shaking his head with a big grin covering his face, and David standing quietly off to the side, practicing his jazz chords and classical runs on the guitar, safe in the knowledge that as the baby of the group, he's still got a number of years before he has to worry himself with such silly trifles as E.D.  Whoops! - Now Bruce has moved across the room to a table, sitting down with his business managers, stategizing the best way for the group to pit the drug companies against each other, driving up the price for the use of the song.  Oh, and look - in the midst of it all, there's Brian, sitting in the corner behind a Steinway, scatching his head, wondering what all the fuss is about.

I mean, it just kind of writes itself, doesn't it? :D  Seriously though, I meant what I said about the lyric change, and I really am looking forward to the new rendition.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: puni puni on August 29, 2012, 11:05:43 AM
Except for "raise a glass to kindness," the lyrics they should have changed they kept, and the lyrics they should have kept they changed. What's wrong with going steady? That was like the best part.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Runaways on August 29, 2012, 08:54:52 PM
i thought that line was old-fashioned in a bad way.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Gohi on August 30, 2012, 03:52:16 AM
Nothing wrong with beng old-fasioned, I say.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: mabewa on August 30, 2012, 05:51:05 AM
I like the new version.  It's less Jeff and more emphasis on Mike and just keeping it within the Beach Boys.  Mike still seems a bit timid with the bridge...his vocal is a bit weak.  I'm sure a few more performances and he'll beef that section up a bit.  Can't wait to hear the official single!

Yes, as the professor says above--and it's worth repeating--the long-sought for de-fosckettization of the song is a dream come true: it was un-listenable for those few seconds to any astute listener or to anyone with ears. Jeff is good with Brian in the opening, serving as a support, but as a soloist?  Not with 5 BB still standing.  I am thrilled and counting the days, which would be easier if I knew when to stop, until the next single.

Jeff's vocals sometimes sound a bit shrill to me, but I really like his part on the bridge.  I agree that it's nice to have the original BBs sing the whole song, but with the dubious lyrical changes, I'm not sure if they've succeeded in improving it. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Runaways on August 30, 2012, 10:42:03 AM
Don't disagree, except when it's a lil lame.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on August 30, 2012, 10:51:13 AM
Nothing wrong with being old-fashioned, I say.
Seconded.

Thus why he said "old-fashioned in a bad way". I think "dated" applies to this particular line. I'm not fond of it, but it goes down much easier with the vocals than the updated lyrics.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: mabewa on August 31, 2012, 03:59:16 AM
"Go steady" sounds fine to me, just because it's a phrase that the original BBs would have used, did use in fact (none of the guys go steady coz it wouldn't be right!).  So you have some late middle aged people thinking about getting back together, and they are using their old slang. 


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Gohi on August 31, 2012, 05:21:26 AM
Using old slang is a lot like liking a Phil Spector record.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on August 31, 2012, 06:15:45 AM
Using old slang is a lot like liking a Phil Spector record.

Whats wrong with Phil Spector?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Wirestone on August 31, 2012, 06:21:22 AM
Part of what makes the song work -- to me -- is that it was a total last minute lark. They did it in, like, March. There was no time, everybody pitched in to write the thing, there are shared vocals -- it's one of the tracks where it really sounds like the BBs are a reunited, working group.

Sure, I could see an instrumental overdub or two, possibly some drop-ins by BW to make his intro vocal a bit less quirky. But all of this fiddling with the lyric is pure foolishness. It's trying to fix something that 1.) isn't broken and 2.) is actually charming on its own.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on August 31, 2012, 08:37:31 AM
Part of what makes the song work -- to me -- is that it was a total last minute lark. They did it in, like, March. There was no time, everybody pitched in to write the thing, there are shared vocals -- it's one of the tracks where it really sounds like the BBs are a reunited, working group.

Sure, I could see an instrumental overdub or two, possibly some drop-ins by BW to make his intro vocal a bit less quirky. But all of this fiddling with the lyric is pure foolishness. It's trying to fix something that 1.) isn't broken and 2.) is actually charming on its own.

I agree with Wisestone.  But for me pushing Jeff off the bridge was paramount; I can live with any other changes as long as they did that. It's not safe to drive with your fingers in your ears when his part comes on, and it's not possible to endure it directly into the mind.  I seem unkind, but I contend that those 13 notes or so were a disaster and had to go.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Aegir on August 31, 2012, 12:20:27 PM
Using old slang is a lot like liking a Phil Spector record.

Whats wrong with Phil Spector?

I think Gohi was referencing something Brian said in a TV interview once, it's a joke.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 01, 2012, 01:37:29 AM
Using old slang is a lot like liking a Phil Spector record.

Whats wrong with Phil Spector?

I think Gohi was referencing something Brian said in a TV interview once, it's a joke.

Thought as much xD


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Gohi on September 01, 2012, 04:37:25 AM
lol yeah it was from the Joan Rivers interview.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: the professor on September 02, 2012, 10:29:58 AM
Just saw/heard the new version from the Rod Laver arena show: Mike sounds stronger on the bridge, but the whole group sounds off on the new "isn't it time we were lovers"; the last notes of this new truncated verse (deleting "again") seems a bit wayward, so I hope they single version has really nailed it the way a live performance can't.  They ought not to have deleted "again."


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: runnersdialzero on September 02, 2012, 10:41:48 AM
Just saw/heard the new version from the Rod Laver arena show: Mike sounds stronger on the bridge, but the whole group sounds off on the new "isn't it time we were lovers"; the last notes of this new truncated verse (deleting "again") seems a bit wayward, so I hope they single version has really nailed it the way a live performance can't.  They ought not to have deleted "again."

All the lyrical revisions feel like a very forced "But wait, these people are still together. We gotta fix all this stuff that points to the past or mentions getting back together!" It just doesn't work as well. Get a better take of Brian's verse, ditch Jeff's bridge and add the group harmony they've added and all the minor issues of the original are gone.

... not that these complaints are gonna change anything, but gall durn it, based on the live versions, the single recording could indeed be a bit inferior to the original. Hopefully they used the same recording and just tweaked as need, thus allowing halfwits like me the ability to make their own edits.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on September 02, 2012, 02:01:33 PM
Hmm, looks like a Vinyl release could still be on the cards - Wikipedia have it listed as '"Isn't It Time" / "Isn't It Time" (instrumental)' - like the TWGMTR 7"!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Nothgual on September 11, 2012, 01:03:14 PM
Not sure if this is here yet (if so then I apologize), but I found this on Youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xds5X7SpyvM

I think the bridge is a bit awkward and its lost its laid back feel, but at least it doesn't feel like it drags on as much.  Still a great song whichever version!


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: AM Radio on November 08, 2012, 08:15:17 PM
It's beginning to look like the remixed version isn't going to be released to radio.  Expected it for some time now but nothing yet.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Freddie French-Pounce on November 08, 2012, 10:46:52 PM
It's beginning to look like the remixed version isn't going to be released to radio.  Expected it for some time now but nothing yet.

I've been hearing it alot on the radio over the past couple of months...


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Aegir on November 08, 2012, 10:48:13 PM
are you serious?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Micha on November 12, 2012, 10:04:03 AM
This day started for me with Isn't It Time (album version) being played as the first song on my favorite radio show. Made me smile and very motivated.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Lowbacca on November 12, 2012, 10:16:36 AM
This day started for me with Isn't It Time (album version) being played as the first song on my favorite radio show. Made me smile and very motivated.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Which station, which show?


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Micha on November 14, 2012, 11:55:29 PM
This day started for me with Isn't It Time (album version) being played as the first song on my favorite radio show. Made me smile and very motivated.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Which station, which show?

NDR Info, Nightlounge, 5 o'clock show. Here's the full playlist:

http://www.ndr.de/info/programm/musik/nachtclub/playlist5049.html

Today I accidentally found out the same guy started one of the shows with "Daybreak Over The Ocean", but that was broadcast at a time I really do sleep:

http://www.ndr.de/info/programm/musik/nachtclub/playlist4063.html


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Matt H on November 15, 2012, 04:34:51 AM
I have not heard it anywhere in the US.  I think it is a shame that they released it so late.  Would have made a lot more sense to get it out there when they made the change in the Live show to the song to release it then.


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Lowbacca on November 15, 2012, 05:36:05 AM
This day started for me with Isn't It Time (album version) being played as the first song on my favorite radio show. Made me smile and very motivated.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Which station, which show?

NDR Info, Nightlounge, 5 o'clock show. Here's the full playlist:

http://www.ndr.de/info/programm/musik/nachtclub/playlist5049.html

Today I accidentally found out the same guy started one of the shows with "Daybreak Over The Ocean", but that was broadcast at a time I really do sleep:

http://www.ndr.de/info/programm/musik/nachtclub/playlist4063.html
5 o'clock show???  :o :P :P ...  :-\


Title: Re: Isn't It Time is next single
Post by: Micha on November 15, 2012, 06:32:54 AM
This day started for me with Isn't It Time (album version) being played as the first song on my favorite radio show. Made me smile and very motivated.  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Which station, which show?

NDR Info, Nightlounge, 5 o'clock show. Here's the full playlist:

http://www.ndr.de/info/programm/musik/nachtclub/playlist5049.html

Today I accidentally found out the same guy started one of the shows with "Daybreak Over The Ocean", but that was broadcast at a time I really do sleep:

http://www.ndr.de/info/programm/musik/nachtclub/playlist4063.html
5 o'clock show???  :o :P :P ...  :-\

You know, it isn't called "Nightlounge" for no good reason... "Daybreak" was in a 2 o'clock show, I wouldn't have gotten up for that even if I had known it was on.