New Beach Boys 2012 Remasters!

[Joshilyn Hoisington]

Key to what we might get outside of Japan might be knowing more about the providence of the mixes: was Mark commissioned to do them by EMI USA, and the files were subsequently licences by EMI Japan; or was the project commissioned by EMI Japan from the off; or am I way off the mark and this was BRI-run project? Or is it sowmthing Mark and Boyd have been toying with on and off for h years, in their spare time, and EMI Japan's just seized an opportunity?

If AGD doesn't drop his pants of secrecy and confess, he will not be able to dodge the blame of silence for much longer.

Don't take my word as gospel, but when I worked with Alan, Mark had worked up a bunch of stereo remixes for various albums, many of which have not come out.  I think that he'd do his best to do a new remix whenever the opportunity presented itself.  And that was six years ago.

It might be that he finally did them all and started shopping them around.  But I really have no idea--I just know that Mark has been working on these things for years without always having a outlet in mind.

[PhilCohen]

Procede with caution when buying Japanese Beach Boys CD's on Ebay, because most of these CD's are NOT the 2012 stereo + mono editions. While some actual 2012 Japan CD's were on Ebay yesterday(July 25th), my search on Ebay today showed no actual 2012 Japan discs.

[The Shift]

Key to what we might get outside of Japan might be knowing more about the providence of the mixes: was Mark commissioned to do them by EMI USA, and the files were subsequently licences by EMI Japan; or was the project commissioned by EMI Japan from the off; or am I way off the mark and this was BRI-run project? Or is it sowmthing Mark and Boyd have been toying with on and off for h years, in their spare time, and EMI Japan's just seized an opportunity?

If AGD doesn't drop his pants of secrecy and confess, he will not be able to dodge the blame of silence for much longer.

Don't take my word as gospel, but when I worked with Alan, Mark had worked up a bunch of stereo remixes for various albums, many of which have not come out.  I think that he'd do his best to do a new remix whenever the opportunity presented itself.  And that was six years ago.

It might be that he finally did them all and started shopping them around.  But I really have no idea--I just know that Mark has been working on these things for years without always having a outlet in mind.

Had an idea that was the case. Assume though that someone at BRI or EMI/Capitol USA would have to sanction such a deal?

...someone other than Andrew I mean, even high up the ladder of secrecy...

[shmenge7372]

I finally have these in my grubby little hands.  I'm at work so I plan to start listening on the ride home.  5:30 cannot come fast enough for me.  I'm a little behind on this thread but it seems like some samples are out there already.  I haven't heard any of them yet but hope I'm in for a treat.  I'll check back in with my thoughts.

[EgoHanger1966]

I finally have these in my grubby little hands.  I'm at work so I plan to start listening on the ride home.  5:30 cannot come fast enough for me.  I'm a little behind on this thread but it seems like some samples are out there already.  I haven't heard any of them yet but hope I'm in for a treat.  I'll check back in with my thoughts.

Much appreciated!

(edit) by chance, I wonder if these are on iTunes Japan? Not that I've ever bought an iTunes download. But you'd think they would be there....

[Music Machine]

I think the key to plugging European and North American releases of stereo Beach Boys mixes is Smiley Smile. It's an album people love or hate and here's a way to completely re-evaluate it.  That's good fodder for music mags like Rolling Stone and Mojo.

[Zach95]

I think the key to plugging European and North American releases of stereo Beach Boys mixes is Smiley Smile. It's an album people love or hate and here's a way to completely re-evaluate it.  That's good fodder for music mags like Rolling Stone and Mojo.

Pitchfork LOVES Smiley Smile. So, yeah, I agree very much with what you said.

@ shmenge7372, wait a second, you bought all of them?!

[sea of tunes]

I finally have these in my grubby little hands.  I'm at work so I plan to start listening on the ride home.  5:30 cannot come fast enough for me.  I'm a little behind on this thread but it seems like some samples are out there already.  I haven't heard any of them yet but hope I'm in for a treat.  I'll check back in with my thoughts.

Could you perhaps scan the mastering credits and let us know if it makes mention of 'Mark Linett, Alan Boyd & Dennis Wolfe'?

Thanks

[shmenge7372]

I think the key to plugging European and North American releases of stereo Beach Boys mixes is Smiley Smile. It's an album people love or hate and here's a way to completely re-evaluate it.  That's good fodder for music mags like Rolling Stone and Mojo.

Pitchfork LOVES Smiley Smile. So, yeah, I agree very much with what you said.

@ shmenge7372, wait a second, you bought all of them?!

I bought all but Surfer Girl, Surf's Up, and Sunflower.

[The Shift]

What time is it where you are? Can't you drive any faster? Could you drive, listen and post at the same time?  :-)

[Andrew G. Doe]

Besides, "Career-Spanning Box Set" can mean many things.

Really ?  Where I come from - the English speaking part of the world - it means precisely one thing: the spanning of a career, which in this instance means 1961-2012. Which part of "career-spanning" appears ambiguous to you ?  

The box is happening. The GH CD is happening. This is not arcane knowledge or just me whistling Dixie. If I'm wrong, call me on it... just like last time, and the time before that. 

[Zach95]

Besides, "Career-Spanning Box Set" can mean many things.

Really ?  Where I come from - the English speaking part of the world - it means precisely one thing: the spanning of a career, which in this instance means 1961-2012. Which part of "career-spanning" appears ambiguous to you ? 

Well, it could mean a box set similar to the Good Vibrations '93 box set, which pulls songs from every album mixed with archival releases, or a box set with each and every album newly re-mastered and packaged separately.  Both of which match your definition of career spanning.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Besides, "Career-Spanning Box Set" can mean many things.

Really ?  Where I come from - the English speaking part of the world - it means precisely one thing: the spanning of a career, which in this instance means 1961-2012. Which part of "career-spanning" appears ambiguous to you ?  

Well, it could mean a box set similar to the Good Vibrations '93 box set, which pulls songs from every album mixed with archival releases, or a box set with each and every album newly re-mastered and packaged separately.  Both of which match your definition of career spanning.

So in the second case they'd remaster TWGMTR for the box ?  

Anyway, almost certainly a moot point as I seriously doubt that's how the box will be comprised. For one thing, ca you imagine how much a box of 40-odd individually packaged CDs would cost ?

Me being picky: the 1993 box didn't pull songs from every album. 

[PhilCohen]

So some of you think that Capitol's reason for not releasing these discs outside Japan is because they think that they wouldn't sell.  Then, license these remixes and remasters to a reissue label. Labels such as Sundazed, Edsel, Iconoclassic or BGO would jump at the chance to have The Beach Boys remasters. These labels successfully make a go of it reissuing albums by obscure artists who never had a hit. By contrast, The Beach Boys were one of the most popular groups of their era. And they had hits....loads of them. These 4 albums that were recently remixed are each gold or platinum selling albums.

[Music Machine]

Me being picky: the 1993 box didn't pull songs from every album. 

They also put the Carl and the Passions material after the Holland material for some reason and didn't put California Dreamin' on disc four even through there was room.

[Andrew G. Doe]

These 4 albums that were recently remixed are each gold or platinum selling albums.

Neither Party ! nor Smiley Smile have been RIAA certified as gold, much less platinum.

[sea of tunes]

Anyway, almost certainly a moot point as I seriously doubt that's how the box will be comprised. For one thing, can you imagine how much a box of 40-odd individually packaged CDs would cost ?

Just so we're clear here, is it your opinion that the 'career spanning box set' will be an "updated" version of the GV30 box?  That was my take away from the press release, all the way back in December.  

[SBonilla]

Then, license these remixes and remasters to a reissue label. Labels such as Sundazed, Edsel, Iconoclassic or BGO would jump at the chance...

to hurl itself over a fiscal cliff?  It's not feasible. Of course a  label would have to pay the licensing fee, but they would also have to pay for Capitol to manufacture the product and pay the mechanicals. All in advance. It would be a one way deal in Capitol's favor. Ain't gonna happen. And don't forget, you gotta pay your lawyers.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Anyway, almost certainly a moot point as I seriously doubt that's how the box will be comprised. For one thing, can you imagine how much a box of 40-odd individually packaged CDs would cost ?

Just so we're clear here, is it your opinion that the 'career spanning box set' will be an "updated" version of the GV30 box?  That was my take away from the press release, all the way back in December.  

Has to be, logically. Exactly how the years 1988-2012 will be represented is anyone's guess, but hopefully "LHRW" will be reinstated and the 'unreleased' tracks juggled a tad. Solo material ? I'd go for that. More live stuff... eh, not so much. We'll see before the year's out.

[drbeachboy]

Besides, "Career-Spanning Box Set" can mean many things.

Really ?  Where I come from - the English speaking part of the world - it means precisely one thing: the spanning of a career, which in this instance means 1961-2012. Which part of "career-spanning" appears ambiguous to you ? 

The box is happening. The GH CD is happening. This is not arcane knowledge or just me whistling Dixie. If I'm wrong, call me on it... just like last time, and the time before that. 

It can mean something like the GV Box Set or something like the Beatles Mono and Stereo Box Sets. If I am thinking correctly boxing their albums made throughout their career is career spanning, no? I was not implying that they were not coming, just what  Career Spanning entailed.

[drbeachboy]

Anyway, almost certainly a moot point as I seriously doubt that's how the box will be comprised. For one thing, can you imagine how much a box of 40-odd individually packaged CDs would cost ?

Just so we're clear here, is it your opinion that the 'career spanning box set' will be an "updated" version of the GV30 box?  That was my take away from the press release, all the way back in December. 

Has to be, logically. Exactly how the years 1988-2012 will be represented is anyone's guess, but hopefully "LHRW" will be reinstated and the 'unreleased' tracks juggled a tad. Solo material ? I'd go for that. More live stuff... eh, not so much. We'll see before the year's out.

Not seeing your answer here prior to responding, I see your point with it not being the actual albums. Boxing that many albums would cost a small fortune.

[Jim V.]

I got Sunflower and Surf's Up, just cuz those are 2 of my favorites. I've listened to a little bit from both, and the sound is great.

Oddly enough, the photo on the back cover of Surf's Up is the classic five man lineup in like...1978. Don't have the case in front of me right now, but I think its this one:



And this is odd, because the Sunflower back cover's photo makes more sense.

[myonlysunshine]

All Summer Long samples are up:

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Beach-Boys_000000000000485/item_All-Summer-Long_5103175

[drbeachboy]

Besides, "Career-Spanning Box Set" can mean many things.

Really ?  Where I come from - the English speaking part of the world - it means precisely one thing: the spanning of a career, which in this instance means 1961-2012. Which part of "career-spanning" appears ambiguous to you ?  

Well, it could mean a box set similar to the Good Vibrations '93 box set, which pulls songs from every album mixed with archival releases, or a box set with each and every album newly re-mastered and packaged separately.  Both of which match your definition of career spanning.

Thank you, Zach. As you see above, it was exactly what I meant. I wasn't expecting such a snippy answer from AGD, you curmudgeon.

[DonnyL]

All Summer Long samples are up:

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Beach-Boys_000000000000485/item_All-Summer-Long_5103175

they have some of the other ones, definitely new stereo mixes !

SMILEY SMILE IN STEREO (inclincluding 'good vibrations'):

http://www.hmv.co.jp/en/artist_Beach-Boys_000000000000485/item_Smiley-Smile_5103113