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http://www.creativeman.co.jp/artist/2012/08beach/news.html


Here's a (bad) translation of the webpage text (from Japanese)



Mono and stereo for all albums!  Smiley Smile...in STEREO?   :o

Now..where's Wild Honey and Friends?  Possible later separate reissues, box set(s), or something?  Hoping for a stereo Wild Honey somewhere down the line

No Friends but we do get yet another version of Pet Sounds, sigh.

Stereo Smiley Smile = way cool, but wtf skipping over Wild Honey?

That's incredible, all i've wished for.. but those are just for Japan right? which means, very expensive, right?
and yeah, what about Wild Honey, Friends AND 20/20... hope they'll fix that

I hope these get a release in the United States...these will probably be $40 a pop to import.

Gaaaaaah, YES! And July 25th is not long to wait.
We should all buy one each and......(just kidding!)  ;D

If Mark Linnett is involved in the remastering, then it has to get a regular release in the US, right?

That being said, if we do get it, I hope they keep the bonus tracks from the twofers.

It is an odd selection tho, cause it's not only 60's stuff, it goes into the 70's, without giving all the rest of the 70's albums, and yet there's some 60's albums missing... that's just weird. maybe they'll fix that.

Wonder if they;'ll be single discs in Japan, and two-fers over here and in the US?

I'm sure the missing 60s albums will show up … too important not to.

Not again!

They look exactly like the beatles reissues. But wheres wild honey and friends!!!! I dont need surfin usa or sufari!

I doubt they would be 2-fers with Mono/Stereo of each album on one CD. Though, I suppose they could do a 2-fer with Sunflower/Surf's Up, since both are only stereo.

Party??!!

Complete Today & Summer Days in stereo.  :woot

So, someone posted this over at the Steve Hoffman forum:

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Mono and Stereo Reissues (Japan)

http://www.creativeman.co.jp/artist/...each/news.html

Jul. 25th 2012 release in Japan
Remasterd by Mark Linett, Alan Boyd and Dennis Wolf.

Surfin’ USA (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Surfer Girl (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Little Deuce Coupe (MONO &STEREO）2012 remaster
Shut Down Vol.2 (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
All Summer Long (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Today! (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Summer Days (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Party (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Pet Sounds (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Smiley Smile (MONO & STEREO）2012 remaster
Sunflower (STEREO）2009 remaster
Surf’s Up (STEREO) 2009 remaster

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Did some google translate on some of the text from the site:


To commemorate the 50th anniversary of debut Japan tour & 8 Mon, re-released the latest series of 12 pieces of CD mastering original name! Recording such as a stereo mix of "I Get Around" In addition, the world's first sound and appearance! !

Brian Wilson as Japan tour was attended to commemorate the Japan tour can become a long-awaited first time in 33 years really, to be released on July 25, the latest series of 12 re-mastered CD title the original name of the Beach Boys is decided.


Anybody have any more info on this?

I swear. This is not just the Beach Boys. EVERY BAND i get into and buy their whole discography comes out with a career spanning box set or new remastered versions in stereo right after it. It's my fault for being impatient. But still it sucks.

Already on it. See here: http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,13631.msg295979/topicseen.html#new (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,13631.msg295979/topicseen.html#new)

Oh nice -  I did a search and everything and didn't find it, oh well ;)
Moderators - delete topic please :)

That is a better thread title tho,
cause some people might think it is international, at least for now it's only for Japan.

I really like the stereo remixes of Pet Sounds and SMiLE material. I don't really care for the mixes on the Warmth of the Sun comp/others. They don't sound right to me. Not wide enough and the eq is goofy. I hope the Today!/Summer Days material is remixed again and sound like Linett's mixes on the two boxes.

I dont see that info anywhere, but I do see that only japan has reported on it

YOWZA!

 :3d

Perhaps it's just optimism talking but I have a feeling this will be an international release but at the moment, it's Japan who's reporting the news first (perhaps even released there first).  That was the case with a new Rolling Stones/Muddy Waters DVD that's coming out next month: a Japanese site announced it first and it wasn't until some weeks later when other sites announced that it was available everywhere.

From the looks of it Capitol has put a great deal of work into this.  I doubt it'll only be limited to one country.

Man, if these came out July 25th in America, that would make my summer!

I wonder if this is a big boxset like the beatles

If I can get a stereo In the Back of My Mind showing off that stellar backing track as if it were a Pet Sound track, I will be a very, very happy man.

I. Can't. Fodaing. Wait.

That's what I thought too – very similar packaging to the Beatles stereo releases any way.

Maybe the box set treatment?

Maybe this is what AGD's spending his time on, instead of posting here (edit:) with his former regularity (end edit) as he ought.


>:D

I wonder if these will have bonus tracks...

Same here Ego..would be great for the summer but I wouldn't be surprised if they released it in the US with the big wave of other archival stuff in the fall that's already been reported (box set, live album etc...).  You never know. 

Either way, I'm so glad this is happening, just as I had hoped.  Hope they release 20/20, Friends and Wild Honey in the same batch.  Question is do we get a beautiful box set like the Beatles remasters?  That would be the cherry on top.

… and I wonder how the world's first release of Smiley Smile in stereo will get over the Good Vibes hurdle?

I'm soooooo thankful I held out and didn't buy any of the Japanese mini-LP CDs.  These will do just fine.  I shall make room on the shelf for the shiny box set that is sure to package all these great releases......

Oooh, good point! There's a bunch of mono only tracks from the catalog though, it will be interesting to see how they are presented.
I'm hoping we get a US/rest of the world announcent really soon.
Just when you think it can't get any better to be a Beach Boys fan in 2012.....

maybe they will be fake stereo like capitol did with some of the beatles american stuff..

Same, but let's just hope it isn't only just for Japan now..

Here's hoping that there's a 24 bit digital release to accompany these.

I'm bummed that Holland and Love you didn't make the cut, though.

I'd prefer the "Past Masters" approach to non-LP cuts.

I can't see them doing that....

Note to Mods: could this and the "Japanese CD Remasters 2012" thread be merged please, perhaps under the title "Japanese CD Remasters 2012".

Note to Mods: could this and the "New Beach Boys 2012 Remasters" thread be merged please, perhaps under the title "Japanese CD Remasters 2012".

I feel just the opposite. Even doubling up mono and stereo, there's still tons of room on each disc for bonus tracks. I'll already be spending enough as it is to have to buy another disc of material that would easily fit on the standard catalog albums.

Will we ultimately see a "Summer In Paradise" reissue? That is the real question. And can they include both mixes?

Still Cruisin' Deluxe Edition! Bring it! Island GIrl mono mix!

I'd hold out hope - the catalogue might be released in batches… if memory serves, the original 2-fers didn't all come out simultaneously.

Capitol must have spent a good load of cash on this project so I doubt they'd limit it to one country.  What we're probably seeing here is this Japanese site announcing it before everyone else.  Who knows...they may even have the remasters released there first before everywhere else?  Either way, I shall expect an annoucement for the worldwide release to be made in the near future.  

The one bad thing about the packaging of the Beatles stereo remasters was the wayi n which the CD's are held - they are put inside a cardboard slip with no inner sleeve. It would be cool if The Beach Boys' remasters had packaging that had mini paper innersleeves like the Beatles' mono box, tucked into the pocket with the booklet instead. I'd pay a couple bucks more each just to have those repro Capitol inners!

Since Sunflower and Surf's Up already were in stereo, do you think they'll have bonus tracks ? WIBNTLA maybe ?

Agree that the Beatles releases were beautifully but clumsily packaged but I'm not too bothered about paper innersleeves… I've got those with my vinyl, and these re-issues ain't vinyl, they're CDs…

… but hey, what if there's going to be a vinyl release series also!?!?

Well the other japanese cds that are already out aren't from Capitol?
anyway, i sure hope too! and i mostly hope the rest of the catalogue will come out, at least the 70's, and the missin' albums from the 60's! a boxset would be lovely.

TWGMTR =  :)

This =  :spin :ahh :banana  :listening

Can't wait!

Agreed.  My guess is that we'll be seeing an official nouncement soon....  And this thread will suddenly jump to 50 pages in a day!  :lol

My god, this makes me VERY happy! i hope there's gnna be a HUGE boxset that i can get for Christmas  ;D

Yes they are but the only thing that made those items special was the LP reproduction packaging (which totall kicks ass!).  I believe they used the exact same mastering as the previously released batch of the same titles (on the two-fers).  No new mastering.  Here we have the top guns, Linett and Boyd doing some extensive work on giving us both mono and stereo mixes...a little more is invovled here.  If they're gonig to these lengths to freshen up these recordings, they would have to release it worldwide for them to get a nice return on this!

As a collector of some of these Japanese mini LP sets basically expect pristine and detailed packaging down to the letter but for these only to be available to the Japanese market.  The Japanese market prefers the mini-LP format as oppose to what is common throughout the rest of the world and many acts have released their catalog in this format in Japan.  Sometimes the releases that are chosen for the mini-LP format often have no rhyme nor reason to them.  Springsteen's catalog was missing a few LPs I believe when issued in this format in Japan while Tom Petty's catalog was missing his first two records which may have been due to copyright issues.

The real surprise here is obviously that these discs have been remastered by Linett which is usually not the case when it comes to these Japanese reissues.  Although most of these Japanese reissues are sourced from the lowest generation tape sources available rarely if ever are they given a legitimate remastering job which is apparently the case here.  I wouldn't be surprised given the press release if this was done as some sort of tie-in to the upcoming Japanese leg of the tour.  As I mentioned the Japanese market usually prefers this type of packaging over the jewel case or digipak format available elsewhere so having an attractive set of mini-LPs at the merchandise table might not be a bad idea.

My gut feeling is that these will probably be available to those outside of Japan only via import available on online shops such as Amazon.  Again this may have more to do with the particular markets more than anything else.

Except that these aren't mini LP's. If you look at the picture, they are identical looking to the Beatles' remasters in 2009.

Yeah my whole feeling on these getting intrntl release is the beatlea 2009 packaging

That being said I wonder if they will offer them in a box set like The Beatles did back in 2009 or if we'll have to buy them all separately?  I might cash out for a box set but buying them all individually isn't very attractive to me.

This makes me think of that quote that came up recently that we should expect the "ultimate career spanning box set."  Tag on a 1 or 2 disc bonus disc of unreleased archive material only avaialble in this box set and bam...there ya have it.

Funnily enough, the pricing scheme in 2009 made it cheaper in most cases to buy the stereo cd's seperately rather than buying the box!
And of course, the whole mono box fiasco - EMI says it's limited, everyone rushes out and spends uber money on it, only for it to NOT be limited and available at Best Buy for $100 for a long while...

The box set was well worth it in my opinion though whether you chose to go with the box that EMI/Apple put out or went for the independently produced Box of Vision format.  Now there is an idea!  Much like they had to with The Beatles and Bob Dylan, the Box of Vision folks would have to gain permission from The Beach Boys to put together a Box of Vision set on them but that would be an attractive way to display these digipaks.

As far as I can tell, the Box of Vision is just a binder that allow you to slip in just the discs into the plastic pockets (plus maybe the CD booklet).  Not necssarily enough space to put the actual digipack package in there.  Looks like they've printed the image of each album onto the plastic so you could identify what album it is a bit easier.

(http://www.boxofvision.com/images/products/231/106701-1512.jpg?1299875338)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EeMGkWAdds&feature=player_embedded

I personally wouldn't want to put the discs in this type of setup; making the digipacks useless...

You are both right and wrong.  The digipaks actually do fit into the Box of vision as that is what the Box of vision was created for.  The problem was that the first couple of Beatles Box of Vision sets were not done to exact specifications and some digipaks began to slip & slide around.  This problem was rectified initially with the use of Ace Felt Pads and later rectified entirely on the subsequently produced Beatles and Lennon Box of Vision sets.

Loading The DigiPaks Into The Box Of Vision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY1_BfaVxWQ&feature=relmfu

Keeping The DigiPaks Snug In The Box Of Vision
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XaEjgQSzuU&feature=relmfu

Good to know they have enough room for the digipacks...the virtual tour from the official site never implied that the entire packaging would fit.  I have the Lennon, Dylan and Beatles box sets and I am quite happy with the boxes they came in...

No wild honey = devestated

NO LOVE YOU?!?! Wow.

since "Surfs Up" and "Sunflower" will be stereo only... they will def have some room for some bonus tracks... Fingers crossed amigos!  ;D

Can't see my self buying some of these titles for the third time (minimum, Pet Sounds I've lost count) on the CD format.  But hi-res downloads?  Now we're talkin.  I think we're gonna see an ambitious program like the Rolling Stones on HDtracks.

IF (note the word IF) the remastering or boxing process for 2012 ends with "Surf's Up" and does not include "Wild Honey", "Friends" or "20/20" I personally am of the opinion that it is a smart move on the part of the band or whomever is making decisions on what or what not to include in this particular batch of remasters.  The C50 is a celebration of the best music The Beach Boys' ever put out and while that can be a bit of a subjective process at best, the music of the early-mid sixties is the reason this band continues to be regarded so highly today.

Albums like "Smiley Smile", "Wild Honey" and most of their records of the seventies and eighties while firm favorites with the diehard fanbase do not necessarily speak well of the band to the general public.  At best a lot of these records are novelties and at worst to a casual fan do more to damage the legacy of The Beach Boys' than enhance it.  Admittedly we all have our favorites but then again we are the diehard fanbase and probably afford the catalog a wider berth than most people would.  

Therefore as I mentioned if these are the only records to receive the remastering treatment, they probably picked the best of the best with "Surfin Safari" - "Pet Sounds" being the bands' golden era, "Smiley Smile" included due to the fact it includes "Good Vibrations" and "Heroes And Villains" and two of their strongest records from the seventies to cap it all off in a nice twelve disc package.

Now about those bonus discs filled with rarities and goodies...  ;D

Sucks that Smiley Smile is getting this treatment, but not a bunch of the other! I'm pretty bummed we won't be getting Wild Honey, 20/20, Carl and the Passions "So Tough", Holland, and L.A. (Light Album) yet, if at all.

This line of thinking, while explained well by you, makes no sense to me and I can't see this being the reason. Time will tell....

See, I'm perfectly okay with just these titles.  Better than anything I could have hoped for in terms of re-mastered albums, which I never thought would happen.

There actually doesn't seem to be any consistent logic with the first batch of remasters they're releasing.  If they went with the "best of the catalog" route there was no reason to not include "Holland" since it is widely accepted as one of their best.  Not sure how they could really justify "Beach Boys Party!" to be included with the other "great" albums. 

There is a small chance we can expect the other part of the catalog to be released in another batch after this.  All bets are off on any expectations since almost NO ONE expected for them to even put out any remastered editions.  At this point, anything goes. 

Thanks for chiming in with the first complaint.

Would you expect them to leave PET SOUNDS out of a reissue campaign?

Yeah, I agree that JohnMill did a great job of explaining that position, but it doesn't really make all that much sense. Skipping three '60s albums and then ignoring everything after 1971 just doesn't make that much sense. I figure at the least, they would do everything up to 20/20, ya know, all the original Capitol albums, and then everything from Sunflower til probably either The Beach Boys or Still Cruisin'. But including some things and not others, without any rhyme or reason doesn't make all that much sense to me.

I am interested to see if this is Japan only though. It is possible that this is just for their tour there, and maybe it won't be available in US editions. Although that would be odd, it's possible I suppose. I really hope we do get the entire catalog remasters on single albums along with a new box set full of unreleased stuff. That's my dream scenario.

Ok thanks for the info! no bonus you think then ?

Could be Ziggy!  I can see them consolidating all the bonus tracks into one bonus disk only available if you buy the big box set.  Perhaps even adding a brand new disc of never before heard stuff.  That's a popular sneaky move that many of these companies like to do!

I sure hope so man, i hope.

What doesn't make sense is that Capitol (and especially Alan and Mark) know that a stereo WILD HONEY would be a better seller than something like PARTY - a stereo WILD HONEY has even been alluded to in interviews as something that was being considered.

I don't see a work-around for the non-availability of isolated "Good Vibrations" vocal tracks. Perhaps they will go the electronically-isolated route to create a fake stereo mix or just keep the track mono.

It's quite possible that the "stereo" version of the albums will actually be bonus tracks of new stereo re-mixes when possible, meaning that all mono tracks may not have corresponding stereo tracks.

If i were you i wouldn't freak out that much, it isn't officially announced yet, prehaps Friends, Wild Honey, 20/20 will come along with the other 70's albums.

Didn't they find Surf's Up '67 while cataloging/working on a stereo version of Wild Honey? I'm sure it'll come out, it just doesn't make sense why they wouldn't do it in this batch.

Right - that was one of the things I heard as well.

I'm not freaking out either - I'm implying that we don't have the full story yet because I feel pretty certain that WILD HONEY would be among the top three or four discs to receive a stereo treatment if Capitol is going this route.

Heh i was just kidding around, i know how you feel  :-*

Forgive me if I've missed it, but is there indeed a box set of these albums coming out? I haven't seen that. I'm still under the impression that the "box set" that is coming out later this year will be filled with some of their best material along with unreleased songs and rarities. But maybe I'm wrong.

Nope, no official word on the box set...just healthy speculation by some excited/optimistic fans 8)

What does it mean that Sunflower and Surf's Up show a 2009 remaster date?  They are already remastered?

Also, I'd replace Party and All Summer Long with Friends, Wild Honey and 20/20.  No way (no FREAKING way) should Friends, Wild Honey and 20/20 be left out!

 :old :old

Maybe from when the vinyl was released?

Vinyl reissues, yes. Also did you guys notice Surfin Safari isn't listed with the other reissues? No stereo version possible?

Most of it was recorded on a three-track I believe. Dunno whether the tapes are still there. Stuff like Surfin' has to be mono-only, though.

If these are coming out in a month, then yes, they've already been remastered.  Plus, "Sunflower" and "Surf's Up" were remastered for their 2-fer 10-11 years ago.


What is with all the crying here about titles being left out?  TWGMTR is their 28th album or so.. Can you really not conceive of a second of third batch?  How much sense would it make to put out 28 albums at once?  Or all the best titles in the first batch?  You guys should take a marketing course and calm the hell down.

If we can expect them in waves then I suppose we should hold off on expecting these remasters to be packaged in a nice box set anytime soon.  No doubt they'll offer that to us after they've all been released.  There's no way to tell if it'll happen at all ...maybe they'll only release this first batch, gauge the response and that will decide if they release more...or maybe they'll do what the Stones did during their reissue program a few years ago: release the first batch and also start selling the box that will eventually house all the disks also.  As the remasters are released, you fill the box with the new CDs.  It's a clunky idea but it's been done.

Hopefully the CDs will have new liner notes

Hoping AGD might chip in here...

It's a clunky idea for sure and from the standpoint of wanting to make a profit probably not a very good one although as you mentioned The Rolling Stones and even The Beatles (back in 1987) set a precedent as far as releasing their back catalog this way.  The thing that would confuse the heck out of me if they were choosing to go this route, why not issue everything chronologically.  Have a sixties box set, a seventies box set and an eighties and beyond box set. 

Note: I'm not mentioning anything regarding diminishing returns as far as sales go as the decades progress but that would obviously be an issue with this band whether we'd like to admit it or not.

I see one too many gaps here to be worth it.

 :lol Seriously?
We're getting like five new-to-CD mono mixes, and the complete Today! and Summer Days in stereo for the first time. I'd say it's worth it....

(edit: and Smiley Smile in stereo!)

My only hang-up is that for some of the albums, aren't faithful stereo mixes somewhat impossible?  Some songs from T! and SD(ASN!!) are missing overdubs/had elements recorded live during mixdown, didn't they?  I think the underwhelming stereo mix of She Knows Me Too Well on the Capitol Years box set is proof of this.  Hopefully they manage to make it all work.

These are not coming to the U.S. or Europe.

Nothing to see here.

what made you think so?

Source?

Ah there it is! What took you so long?  :lol

Just wanted to quote you like the others.

I saw a couple of posts that suggested that missing elements like guitar solos/handclaps etc. should be replaced by people in the BB world today and released alongside the unaltered, historical versions. Short of inventing a time-machine, I can't think of a better way they could make it work.

I am speculating, purely for effect.  :)

All we have ever been promised is a hits set, a new boxed set, and (presumably) a live release from the current tour.

If a catalog revamp were planned for the states, I believe we would have had some hint from Capitol about it before now.

Japan is no stranger to exclusive releases, and there is a market for them over there. They've already had the exclusive mini-LP releases. I am unconvinced that such a market exists in the U.S. or Europe.

As for Mark's involvement, it is perfectly possible that EMI Japan paid him for his services.

The simplest way to interpret this set of facts -- announced only in Japan, not announced in the English-speaking world, not even previously suggested in the English-speaking world -- is that these are Japan-only releases.

Doesn't he post here sometimes?  Hopefully he could clear it up for us himself.

Wirestone, as per the boxset, all we've been told was that it was "career spanning."  Isn't a catalog revamp career spanning?

Wait.

All the multis exist for Today/SDSN?

Then why the f*** didn't we see stereo DYWD on the singles box? Granted, I didn't buy it anyway, but the fact that it exists...blah.

Also, yeah, stereo WH needed, fave album, blah blah

Concernlng the material that has never been released in stereo before - no way are they going to go to the time and expense of creating stereo versions and release them only in Japan.

Yeah, but only if we assume, as you've done, that the albums would be assembled into the set. Seems a stretch to me.

i think people are basing this on the similarity to the beatles boxsets.  and that those album sleeves are the same format as said beatles boxset.

Hoping this release comes to the States!  With Wild Honey, Friends and the other albums not mentioned included! 

I can 100% tell you that this is not all the states is getting.

I kinda feel like this belongs on here. I searched something like "Beach Boys 2012 remasters" on Amazon and this came up in the search:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008F67RH0/ref=dm_sp_alb

I suppose that's the remaster of Pet Sounds they are using for the CD that's coming out. I couldn't find any of the other albums though, and nothing on iTunes. I'm intrigued though. I really do hope they are indeed reissuing all their albums on their own CDs.

Wow nice find!

Elaborate.

I have a strange feeling that we're gonna hear something tomorrow...


also, i have a strange feeling that makes me wanna play a DENNIS OUTTAKE FROM SURF'S UP THAT'S NOT WIBTLA... hmmm....

(http://cdn.videogum.com/files/2011/11/allfireworks7.gif)

4th of July? A different version than the one on the GV boxset?

No haha, it's my supposed release/announcement day

Meh, it's easy to think the worst in this scenario but everything about the last 3 months has taught me to expect the unexpected.  We all had our own expectations about this anniversary and I think it's safe to say that all of our expectations were met and in many aspects, surpassed.  We may not be used to all this great fortune which is why it's become second nature to deflect any possible cool ideas as realities but I, for one, am looking at this optimistically:   The Japanese site posted the info early, hoping to drum up some  hype for when the tour drops by their country.  Because of the upcoming Japanese shows, they might even have the first batch of remasters released there first with a worldwide release soon after or perhaps later in the fall.  I expect we will hear from Capitol in the relatively near future. 

I agree with that, but why fall? I would think Aug by the latest.

Cool. Amazon  has the release date as July 3 for Pet Sounds 2012 Remaster... as well as sound samples.

You may be right. The idea of mono + stereo twofers exclusive to Japan is not a new idea. Sony Music of Japan recently(last month) did exactly that for the first five Byrds albums. The discs are indeed Japan-only limited edition product, and, in The Byrds' case, premium-priced audiophile editions mastered with Blu-Spec technology(I.E. the glass master was etched with a Blue laser for more accurately formed data pits). By the way, I bought 2 of the 5 Byrds titles, found them to be excellent, and have now ordered the other 3 titles(which are now in route from Japan). Each has the original mono album, followed by mono singles tracks(or scheduled, but never released singles in mono), followed by the original stereo album.
                        But I hope that Capitol relents and releases The Beach Boys discs in the U.S.A. / Because of the amount of albums involved, buying the 1960's Beach Boys catalogue on pricey Japanese discs will be budget-breaking and unfeasable.

That's an MP3 download, not a CD release.

correct

The only downloads I'll buy before the box are SS, Today and Summer Days

OK, don't know if anybody saw this yet, but if not, here's another find. Unfortunately this one isn't as good:

http://merchdirect.com/thebeachboysarchive

It's basically selling most of the old twofers and a bunch of compilations as downloads and CDs. And not to be Cohen-like, but it doesn't make sense that they'd put this "archive" up with all this stuff if they were gonna be putting out new, remastered versions reasonably soon.

I'll bet they'll come out in the US one of these days. Smiley Smile in stereo....well, since that album's so sparse, I don't know if stereo will make a difference, but if they get around to a stereo Wild Honey...yeah!

Oh no...
Come on guys, I'll buy anything except THE OLD REMASTERS!

I'm really hoping that the mono mixes on these releases are similar to the JPN Past Masters releases i.e. flat transfers of the tapes with no EQing or futzing to make them loud or "hot".  They should be treated like museum pieces.  I'm prepared to be disappointed but whatever the outcome it will be nice to finally have digital versions of Brian's original mono mixes...even if they're only released in Japan.

It's also exciting to see the rest of those mono-only albums released entirely in stereo.  I wonder what they did with the songs that are missing elements.

I think the one thing to get out of that is that they have created a special URL: TheBeachBoysArchive.  Could be that the items there now are simply placeholders until the new products are rolled out later.  Seems like a big coincidence that they would rollout TheBeachBoysArchive site on the same day that news of the Japanese remasters spills onto the web...

I suspect coincidence... That , or off-loading old stock before the fresh produce arrives!

So you want the tapes put out unmastered then? All mixes are designed t be mastered. A 'flat transfer[..] of the tapes with no EQing or futzing' is not a remastering, its a flat transfer of the tapes, and who wants that?

Music is mastered because it needs mastering, and mastering means EQ and compression. That's what it is.

I'd ;like to know more about the source of the story. Not doubting it at all but I can't find that image anywhere else on the internet, other than the source page quoted in the original post at the head of this thread.

Search was conducted by TinEye…  if anyone's seen it anywhere other than that site, please speak up! (repeats from that site don't count!)

Retracted:

http://www.emimusic.jp/artist/beachboys/

No.  But I would like them to be audiophile quality and not sound like they were mastered for earbuds.   The 2001 mastering that Linett did is loud and aggressive sounding to me when compared to Hoffmann's mastering or the flat mixes heard on those Past Masters releases.  The Beatles got a great remastering in 2009 and the Beach Boys deserve the same.  I hope that happens.

Forgive me if this has already been posted, but here's Google Translate's attempt at converting it to English:

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.emimusic.jp%2Fartist%2Fbeachboys%2F&act=url

I imagine that with some technical trickery they can fly in stuff from other sources where the original multitracks don't exist. Mark did a nice job of Mike's bridge vocal on the stereo Pet Sounds that came out in 2001; the two prior stereo releases had Brian's bridge vocal.

"bra Iron Wilson is restored"

:laugh:

Fans of The Who know how expensive it is to get definitive editions of their 60's albums from Japan only.

I paid about $700

Yep....and it pisses me off to have to be a spectator on the side lines.  :'(

Smiley in Stereo on the Hawthorne Comp was AMAZING.

That is a BIT insane.

Well it was all their albums in the Mod Box, it has like 240 songs with bonus tracks in Digipacks

Japanese EMI Catalogue numbers for the already-flagged up remasters:

TOCP-71371
TOCP-71372
TOCP-71373
TOCP-71374
TOCP-71375
TOCP-71376
TOCP-71377
TOCP-71378
TOCP-71379
TOCP-71380
TOCP-71381
TOCP-71382

All consecutive, which might suggest that other titles won't be slipped out later.

Darn…

Or they might just put the missing ones in next. Still think they'll release them.

They will, 20/20 had do it again and cotton fields and even break away as a single.

Two songs of the 50 in the shows are on 20/20

I'm still optimistic, just presenting what I've found… and a "darn"!

So, "Wild Honey", "Friends" & "20/20" are being permanently expunged from The Beach Boys Capitol back catalogue? Oh well, we've got our existing CD's. There's some fine songs on those 3 albums, and they won't be heard by future fans.

Well gosh darn-it Phil, there's me being all praising towards you at

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,13646.msg296564.html#msg296564

and you go and spoil it with more miserable pessimism!

I understand that some music critics see "Wild Honey", "Friends" & "20/20" as signs of The Beach Boys' creative decline(in the aftermath of Smile's collapse, and the negative consumer reaction to "Smiley Smile"), since "Wild Honey", "Friends" & "20/20"   saw Brian relinquish his role as (sole)
record producer, and the other guys started writing songs, and then "20/20" had some songs with no Brian Wilson performing participation, BUT, the fact remains that these three albums have many superb songs("Wild Honey", "Darlin","Friends", "Busy Doin' Nothing", "Do It Again", "I Can Hear Music").

Whether we like it or not, the catalogue number sequence for the forthcoming Japan CD series makes it obvious that these 3 albums will not be included in the remastered CD series. This decision is apparently etched in stone. None of our consumer complaints will make any difference. But i would assume that the songs from those albums that were released as singles will remain available through hits compilations. But I do think that Capitol's decision to delete those 3 albums is tampering with history.
This is equivalent to what it would be if Sony Music decided to no longer offer Bob Dylan's "John Wesley Harding", "Nashville Skyline", "Self Portrait" & "New Morning" albums. While none of those albums scaled the creative heights of "Highway 61 Revisited", "Blonde on Blonde", "Blood on The Tracks", or "Desire",  the albums are not without merit. They do contain occasional memorable songs.

No reason to assume that the catalog numbers must be consecutive.  There have been numerous re-master programs over the years that did not release all of a band's titles en masse and/or in order.

I think it's too early to say wrote them off Phil… be optimistic. Look on the bright side.  Maybe they're the albums that are going to get the 2CD deluxe treatment, or will be released with a bonus live disc…

Cripes, wish I hadn't found the catalogue numbers already…!

Seriously, what the f*** are you talking about Phil? Last time I check the twofers are still in print, and as far as we know, these releases might be Japan-only. So how is it exactly that they are being "expunged" from their back catalogue? Explain that to me.

… stands back, crowds gather, faces at windows, traffic stops in street, officers with daysticks…

THERE HASN'T EVEN BEEN AN OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT! UNTIL WE GET OFFICAL WORD (IN ENGLISH) THERE'S NO REASON TO GET EXCITED AND ASSUME THAT FRIENDS AND WILD HONEY AND 20/20 ARE NO LONGER PART OF THE BEACH BOYS ALBUM CATALOG! YOU PEOPLE ARE HEADING INTO BLUEBOARD TERRITORY! NOW SIT DOWN!

Thank you!
I'm sure we'll get something soon.

… reaches for asprin …


How do you make the text go bigger like that by the way?

Agreed,Well typed. 8)

Slim Pickens voice:

Pardners, ah sez we saddle up our palominos, rustle ourselves up a posse, and go storm the Capitol Record buildin' in Holl-Lee-Wood and deemand they release our Beach Boys Cds in America RIGHT NOW!

Who's With Me On This?

Gol Durnit!

Because, if those new Japan mono/stereo discs eventually become the new U.S.A. CD series, then that's what we're getting. Note: I didn't complain about the omission of  the group's debut album "Surfin' Safari". The 3 hits("Surfin'", "Surfin' Safari" & "409") will obviously still be available through hits compilations. It apparently isn't possible to do a mono/stereo twofer of the "Surfin' Safari" album, since (apparently) only four of the songs can be remixed for stereo.

Anyone doubting that the Japanese CD series if for real, or what albums are included in it should be made aware that Japanese EMI has already posted a photo of the series.

and how do you know that the 1990/2001 twofers will stay in print?

Ah, found it.

Seriously, thinking about it, as this series is (presumably) part of the 50th anniversary series, does anyone think Capitol would let the original album, the one that started it all in terms of LPs) for The BBs, go out of print??? It'd be like printing a new edition of the Bible without the Book of Genesis, or releasing a complete set of Doctor Who discs without An Unearthly Child.

Whatever happens, it's going to be interesting. And NOISY  in the meantime!   ;D

I wish Capitol would just put out some official information so people could start bitching about that.

I was told never to trust photos. They are often doctored...such as that phony picture of the Smile box set....


(http://www.freecodesource.com/album-cover/51Baxb-4KTL/The-Beach-Boys-The-Smile-Sessions-Box-Set.jpg)

There is also no reason to expect that they will be released in the U.S. at all.

Oh, like hell. This is America's Band! There's gonna be so much new product to buy we're gonna have to take out a second mortgage on our homes!

ZOMG!!!

Dey iz destroying da Beach Boys catalog!!!!

(http://www.sideshowcollectors.com/forums/images/smilies/chicklil.gif)

I CAN HAS BEECH BOYZ KATALOG?

 :jedi

Phil, while being himself a little here, has a few very good points...

Specifically this one,

CAPITOL. IF YOU REALLY DO READ THIS BOARD MARK MY WORDS.
IF YOU DON'T ANNOUNCE YOUR REMASTERS BY JULY 15th, WE ARE ALMOST ALL GOING TO BUY A FEW OF THE JAPAN REMASTERS, WHICH WILL BE EXPENSIVE.

IF YOU WANT TO SELL TO YOUR FAN BASE. HURRY UP. TIME IS TICKING.

(The 15th because we're gonna pre-order them :p)

S'not like that. If the CDs come out in the UK, I'll buy them all. If they're Japan-only I won't buy any. I've had two kids and chosen a less well-paid career since the last set of re-issues; while I can afford sensibly priced CD treats and the occasional gig ticket, the days when I might have bought every import and flown across The Pond to see Admiral Wilson at the helm of the Good Ship Beach Boys are gone.

So my loss but I wouldn't buy the Japanese re-issues, even just a few. Not even one.  I'm sure I'm not the only one in such a situation.

So it's a European/UK series or nowt for me.

But I'm very optimistic… the very thought of these not having a general worldwide release is plain daft.

I would just repeat that we have not been promised any kind of catalog revamp. Merely a career spanning box (and these CDs do not, in any way, span the band's career) and a new greatest hits set.

CDs no longer sell well in the United States, and an extensive, new, one-album-per-disc reissue program at this point seems fiscally irresponsible.

Perhaps I'm wrong, in which case I will happily buy them all. If I'm not, I'm certainly not buying them as imports.

Okay, well seriously now...... (rampant speculation)

I wonder if EMI Japan jumped the gun?  If they are making announcements like this, then it only seems normal to wonder about the same "CD product" in the USA and UK.

Optimistically, maybe this means Capitol-EMI are announcing something within 24 hours of my mark.  (MARK!)

Pessimistically, it's a "slam" for the USA BB fanbase/market to be treated this shabbily by the Powers That Be.

The Whole World Is Watching!

 :violin

They only released the info a month in advance. I don't think that is jumping the gun.

My thoughts also. The EMI Japan site now has individual pics of each of the releases up, as well as the composite.


I hope…


Ahem… and the UK.


And there's the problem – actually, it's just us, and even with all the other posters on all the other BBs boards, that's just a few hundred at best.  We can't even threaten to vote out the President.  Or the Prime Minister.

Like TSS, TWGMTR, and that tour that wasn't going to get to the UK, we just have to sit back, and trust in the powers that BB.

It is if you want to take the position that they announced it before Capitol had the chance to make their official announcement about a worldwide release!  ;D

You mean JULY 15th, right?

Oops sorry :P

(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9335/beachboys2012series1.jpg)

Nice...there's 20/20 and Friends..my two favorites.  No Wild Honey..that's weird.

I sure wish the US gets these.

Tracklist for the Surf's Up disc, translated from the Japanese:


01. Do not Go Near The Water
02. Long Promised Road
03. Take A Load Off Your Feet
04. Disney Girls (1957)
05. Student Demonstration Time
06. Feel froze
07. Lookin 'at Tomorrow (A Welfare Song)
08. A Day In The Life Of A Tree
09. Till I Die
10. Surf's Up

Back in your seats boys…

Smiley listing:

Heroes and villains 01.
02. Vu~ejitaburu
03. Fall Breaks And Back To Winter
04. She's Goin 'hold
05. Little Pad
06. Good Vibrations
07. With Me Tonight
08. Wind Chimes
09. Gettin 'Hungry
10. Wonderful
11. Whistle Inn
Heroes and villains 12.
13. Vu~ejitaburu
14. Fall Breaks And Back To Winter
15. She's Goin 'hold
16. Little Pad
17. Good Vibrations
18. With Me Tonight
19. Wind Chimes
20. Gettin 'Hungry
21. Wonderful
22. Whistle Inn

Hmmm, track 17 might be of interest…  Let's all head down to the Whistle Inn for a pint and discuss.

Sunflower don't even have the 45 version of Cottonfields:

01. Slip On Through
02. THIS Houru World
03. Ad Sam Music To Your Day
04. Got To Know The Woman
05. Didori
06. It's About Time
07. Tears In The Morning
08. All I Wanna Do
09. Forever
10. Hour Sweet Love
11. At My Window
12. Cool Cool Water

… wonder what Sam'll have to say about that

That's doctored, right?

Tracklist for the Wild Honey disc, translated from the Japanese:

Rild Honey
Arrent yu Grad
I Wassa May to Ruver
Contree Aira
A Ring of true
Darrin
I Ruv Jus Runce to asee You
Hrere Come The Rife
Ret the Rind Brow
Howshi Boogarooed It
Confuscious Says

Does it also have the steleo mix?

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_dLSVgS5AxBI/S_EIWt8TiHI/AAAAAAAAr8k/s9MTtn0aFAo/s1600/Gruffalo4_AxelScheffler.jpg)
Hrere comes the rife?  "I'm off," he said.
And quick as the wind he turned and fled.

All was quiet in the deep dark wood.
The mouse found a nut and the nut was good.

 :lol :lol :lol

 :hat

Where are you getting these tracklistings from?

From..... The Internet?

EMI Japan site, then running them through Google Translator.  To be precise, they're up for pre-order on the shopping section of the site.

http://shop.emimusic.jp/shop/goods/search.aspx?search=x&keyword=beach+boys&image.x=0&image.y=0

Maybe, just maybe, they are not meant for us, just yet. Japan had the Pastmasters series and others, while the rest of us got nothing. If we get them, I don't see it happening until the Fall or sometime next year.

The thing is, they'll leak long before they are released in the USA if that's the plan. It would hurt sales.

Thanks - looks like straight mono/stereo issues w/ no bonus tracks. Still cool - can't wait for the next bit of information!

There ARE bonus tracks on some… if you count the additional stereo / mono alternatives we've never had before.

I had a little sneak around the site to see if I could find anything hidden but I'm a clumsy amateur and found nothing. Feel free to have a peek yr'sen!

So? No matter. If they release them here, I'll still buy them whether leaked or not. I like to have a hard copy.

 :lol Nice avatar! One album that soooo doesn't need a remaster!

… but I'll still buy it when it gets one!   :D

My press team and lawyers are working on a statement as we speak.....





(you probably aren't referring to me  ;D)

Thinking about the guy they're singing about on track 3!  ;D

If the Beach Boys think they're adding my music to their day without paying the royalties, I'll have to get the lawyers involved!  ;D

The student has learned well from Mike Love. ;D

I think it's a little naive to think that such a monumental release like this will only be available in Japan. Wait and see.

They already released the entire back catalog in Japan as mini-LPs, with deluxe packaging. They put them in boxed sets. But that monumental release never left Japan.

I know. That time it wasn't 'newly' remastered by Mark Linett though. Like I said, I really don't think you need to worry.

I'm not worrying. I'm just saying I doubt it will happen. Things are newly remastered for Japan. The company there has its own money.

If the discs are Japan-only, I've got to be realistic, given my monthly budget. The only ones that I'm going to purchase will be "Summer Days...and Summer Nights!" and "Smiley Smile".

I'm mainly interested in stereo mixes. I'm basically satisfied with the "Sea of Tunes" bootleg stereo mix of "Beach Boys Party"(despite the brief imperfection during "Devoted to You"), and I've created an excellent homemade stereo disc of "The Beach Boys Today", using a combination of "Sea of Tunes" and Capitol remixes.

It's really great to know this.

.. ::)

I think it's actually good info, knowing that those mixes already exist in some way could influence a few to hold off.

 ::)

To buy the complete set of 12 Japanese discs(assuming that you purchase them directly from Japanese dealers, and depending on whether the discs are full-price or mid-price) will cost between $300 & $420. That's some serious money. There's one forum member who probably does know if the discs will eventually be released in the U.S.A., UK & Europe, but that forum member will likely refuse to tell us, citing confidentiality and not betraying his insider friends. Unfortunately, that forum member's defiant silence may lead to thousands of people needlessly overpaying to obtain this music on pricey Japanese discs. If exploitation of the fans is the byproduct of his secrecy, then that individual has to live with himself.

Alright, I'll spill, We're getting our own remasters.

An Amazing set too!

-Light Album (Bonus Christmas Tracks)
-M.I.U Album
-Still Crusin'
-Summer In Paradise (With the unreleased Bruce song "It's a Full House!"

All for the cheap price of $300 with an amazing SURFBOARD STYLED BOX!

You're joking, right?

Actually, the person I'm referring to, who could tell us if the remastered discs will eventually be released outside of Japan........is Mr.Doe.

I KNOW LOL

Nonsense. What kind of "exploitation" is going on here? Nobody is forcing fans to buy this. There's no deception of any kind -- it's obvious from the press release that these releases are intended only for Japan.

Yes, it'd be a shame if these never hit the States. But anyone who thinks they're being exploited or treated unfairly needs to get real.

I agree with Phil, I REALLY WANT SMILEY SMILE and i've waited too long for it already, not even saying "you're eventually gonna get this" is wrong.

But, if the Japan-only status is only for 3 to 6 months, then the fans should know, so they can make an informed choice of whether or not to wait. Remember, the original CD release of "Pet Sounds" was Japan-only too...but of course, it was later released in the U.s.A., after several touring Beach Boys dropped their objections.

No, it's not. What makes anyone entitled to any unannounced releases? It'd be different if they announced a U.S. reissue program that turned out to be a $400 import option from Japan. That's deceiving. That's also not what's going on.

But on the other hand, I don't think it's fair to blame Andrew, he's being loyal, and it's not his job to tell us what capitol already should.

I'm not arguing whether or not that would be nice. I'm arguing whether or not that's wrong, which it is not. Inconveniencing, maybe, but that's it.

Ok so when a game gets released in Japan, and I import it for $120, and have no signs of it coming to the U.S. then it gets brought over, I have the right to feel cheated.

I don't have to sweat it. I got my man Pudge Martin walkin' the streets of Kagoshima right now as we speak. He's got friends in every town and village from Sapporo to Nagasaki. He speaks a dozen languages, knows every local custom, he'll blend in, disappear, you'll never see him again. With any luck, he's got the remastered CDs already.

Why? You're the one who made the decision to import it in the first place.

Bottom line: there's nothing morally wrong about releasing product in one country and not another, and then making the decision down the line to release it somewhere else. Bad timing, inconvenient, expensive, yes. But there's no cheating or deception going on.

And why is it that Japan gets priority for this new Beach Boys archival product, when the core of the group's fan base is in North America, The Uk & Europe? Do these markets and these fans not matter to Capitol & EMI ?

Damn straight! We fought their kind in the Great War...and we kicked the livin' sh*t outta them!

Right, I forget sometimes: fans on message boards with absolutely no demographic data know more about how the record industry works than experts with years of experience and information.

It looks like they evaluated where demand would be for Beach Boys product, theorized that a reissued catalog would do well in Japan (or at least would be a good place to test such a release), and are acting on that. Alternately: the Japanese localization of the reissues is the first one ready, and the US/UK/European versions aren't. Take your pick, but there's nothing insane or unfair about this announcement.

(http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/the-walking-dead-the-governor.jpg)

I'm moving to Japan to get these remasters sooner than any of you other low-life, poor Westerners.

However, if the remasters later materialize as releases in the so-called "Western world," then I will be sending my entire bill to one AGD. There will be blood on his hands, literally. But not in the literal sense.

Yeah, if you like the sound of MY ASS 92932ujt99gjaoighsaiu


lol

Also, as amusing as these translations are, none of them top the tracklist I found some time ago that translated the tracklist for a metal album as having a song entitled "Black Fishing Rod, White Fishing Rod".

Also, there's no way only Japan would see a catalog re-issue like this, containing first-time stereo mixes for a number of songs as well as the original, never-released-on-CD mono mixes. Rerax. I will say I hope we see a complete catalog re-issue/remaster job, not just a "The Beach Boys were active from '61 to '71 until Brian Wilson went insane, then decades later they did 'Kokomo' and appeared on Full House"-centric release.

Hello Kitty is back!

Twaddle, and quite insulting (to Andrew) twaddle at that. He's explained constantly that he's in no more a privileged position than the rest of us here. Okay, he has great contacts here and there and accordingly, when – if – he hears something he's able to share, he does.

Andrew's like us – he's a fan, one who's wise enough not to sh*t on the hand that feeds him and bright enough not to make a complete prat of himself.

Small wonder he rarely posts here these days when this sort of smear is thrown at him.

Okay, I might occasionally taunt him in the hope he might let something out of the bag (if he's into that particular whatever bag at the time) - it's only half serious, meant in jest most of the time. And sometimes he can be like a Charolais bull that's been introduced to a cattle prod for the first time. But your post, Phil, crosses the line.


F*cking ridiculous. "Thousands of people"?  It's us Phil, it's just us: a few dedicated fans who get together and moan among themselves on a message board. And what you gonna do? Ask AGD for your money back?

Andrew's presence here and on other boards, and the knowledge he shares as a "Beach Boys historian" –note, not "insider" – is hugely appreciated by those of us who don't have the time (or even the intelligence) to go probing for the kind of info his patience and expertise are able to come up with.  You constantly risk ruining this for everyone with your off-the-mark suppositions and ridiculously inaccurate assumptions slung left right and centre.

I keep hoping that if you're cut a little slack your behaviour and posts will become a little more reasonable and rational but it just doesn't happen.

This whole remasters thread could have been so much fun, but it's been turned into another wrestling arena.

I suggest, politely, that you apologise.

ANDREW: apologies, I know you're big enough to stick up for yourself but Phil's post does us all a disservice (though if you are currently employed writing sleeve notes, drop a hint!  ;D )

EVERYONE ELSE: sorry to drag this on but this is yet another final straw.

We hope to return you to normal programming as soon as possible… in the meantime, here's some music…

I'm reliably informed that "This Forum Member" couldn't give a flying one about these remasters or indeed The Beach Boys for the past six weeks or so, having had to deal with far more pressing personal issues. However, "This Forum Member" has authorized me to post that, as usual, Cohen doesn't know what the f*** he's talking about in any of the preceding drivel.

Are you acquainted with the international libel laws ? You've stated that I 'could' tell you, not 'might be able to'.

Oddly enough, I have had no part whatsoever in these Japanese reissues, and even had I been asked to contribute, I would have been unable to due to the difficult circumstances I found myself in at the time. However, you have stated that I do know if the discs will be released outside of Japan and by willfully withholding said info, will cause financial hardship to other fans. That, sir, is libelous. However, because you are such a complete mentally handicapped person and lacking in any shred of human decency (have you yet indicated any concern for Alan Boyd ?) I will step over your pitiful comments as I would a dog turd on the sidewalk. That said, should you continue to make such allegations, I will seek out your residence in Florida and burn it down, with your entire collection of records, CDs and bootlegs in it.

I'm getting really tired of having to read all of this drivel from Phil of which he has nothing to back up his comments. Mr. Doe certainly doesn't need all of this sh*t being said.

I am reliably informed that Phil Cohen is a fucking f*ckwit.Phil I have had enough of your fucking crap.How far in the pit of sh*t do you have to be wade before you get it.. f*** off.

At this point you have to wait for the U.S./Europe releases. The Japan 2012 remasters will be around for a while.

The last few years have been very exciting for Beach Boy fans. Enjoy the reunion tour and the attention it is bringing. With the success of the new album and tour it's a no brainer for Capital to reissue and remaster the entire past catalog.

It's great that we have 'insiders' that will champion our cause to have the best releases available. Thank you to all involved. Mr. Boyd's health is more important than any of this. I hope he is doing well.

Patience everyone. If the new album and tour weren't doing well then I'd be nervous about catalog releases. I think we'll see great things later this year.

My dream-scenario of a remaster series would be the re-release of all the Twofers, as 2 CD-sets with the albums in Mono and Stereo and Bonus-Tracks, perhaps a few more than on the old Twofers.

The Japanese always seem to be ahead of everyone else when it comes to being an 'audiophile'. There was a big outcry in the U.S. back in the 1970's-1980's when everything was being 'made in Japan'. When it came to electronics Japan made high quality merchandise that was affordable. Sony, JVC, and others really had wonderful products when they were produced in Japan. Anyone agree? When I go to the thrift stores looking for vinyl I always look for electronics that have the 'made in Japan' stamp on it. Production later moved to Malaysia and now everything seems to be made in China. The quality is not the same.

I like to collect vinyl and i jumped on the 'Lounge' music revival bandwagon in the 1990's. I became a fan of a singer named Julie London (who is from the U.S.). Great voice and even better LP covers...she always posed in a sexy, provocative way. Her albums were released on Liberty records in the 1950's-1960's. Japan gave her entire back catalog the 'mini-lp- treatment recreating all the details of the vinyl lps. Amazing job. All the U.S. had to offer were greatest hits compilations.

Japan takes their music very seriously. Not that we don't here in the West but you have to admit that those Beach Boy mini lp's are fantastic. They had the Pastmasters, too. They probably had to pay a little more for the mini lp's but they get that quality product.

Another point is that the Beach Boys are no longer just America's Band. They have always belonged to the world. If the Japanese get the 2012 remasters first then so be it. I don't think Capitol here in the U.S. has much say or even care. I'm sure their plans are on schedule or decisions are being made that aren't influenced by Japan's releases.

I forgot to mention that we have a great record store called 'Jerry's Records' in my area. Jerry told me that I wouldn't believe the amount of vinyl records that are purchased in the U.S. and shipped over to Japan. Very serious vinyl collectors over there. I'm not surprised by any of this.

Besides a major f*ckface (just the answer I'm sure I'll get if I don't specify, not calling him that, since i don't know him), who the hell is Phil Cohen? Is he just a troll on here, or does he have some significance in Beach Boys fandom. For example, is he an author about the Boys or something?

He's significant in Beach Boys fandom for being the author of hyperbole and extreme pessimism.

How an you not know who Phil Cohen is? "Sir Philip Cohen FRS FRSE (born 22 July 1945) is a British researcher, academic and Royal Medal winner. During the 1990s he was Britain's third most cited professor". ;D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Cohen

I'm just a lurker here and I do enjoy your posts on this great board one million times more than PhilCohen's, but this is crossing the line for me. Can't we just ignore him, how hard that may be...or ban him. SmileySmile.net shouldn't be a place filled with agression and threats.

By the way, Mr.Boyd is credited(with two other people) for the remastering/compiling of the forthcoming Japanese CD's, so the work on this project was apparently completed before Mr.Boyd's health problems began.

Whether it is "Could" or "Might be able to", even if you have inside information(as you seemed to for the "Smile" box set), you certainly won't tell us(as is your tradition/policy). My point is this: if you do know that the discs will be released (someday) outside Japan, you would be doing a very kind service for many Beach Boys fans to (make exception to your normal policy) and tell these fans, before they waste enormous amounts of money on the Japanese disc series.

Note to Mr.Doe,

                In my original post(which didn't mention you by name) I said "probably does know". I didn't say "definitely does know".

You know how you could avoid spending large amounts of money on Japanese remasters? Don't buy them.

AGD is not Capitol's press agent, and nor is he our direct inside line. He has no reason whatsoever to tell us things. Even if he did know - brace yourself, maybe he doesn't know the entire workings of EMI Worldwide - as he has told you countless times before, he is in no position to tell us about certain things because people he respects have taken him into confidence. I would be furious with AGD if sensitive information I told him was just posted on the net.

Do people you know think you're trustworthy? Or do you just blather the things people tell in confidence to anyone and everyone?


In case you aren't sure what it means, and I can't believe I am explaining this to a (theoretically) fully grown man: http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in+confidence

You have to be kidding, right? Not a place for aggression? You must not lurk here very often, then. Andrew can defend himself, but Phil asks for it every single time. You would think after all the times this has happened, that he'd learn his lesson. Honestly, I think he enjoys it. Others piss & moan about the aggression more than Phil, himself does.

What a shame that our collective interest in the music of this rock group(whose music was supposed to bring positive feelings and joy) has descended to this mud slinging and ugliness, a negative thing that may yet repell a fair amount of people from ever wanting to listen to Beach Boys music again. As for secrecy (whether from Capitol or others), this is Rock n'Roll music. It isn't the Manhattan Project, Ya' know?

Also, regardless of what he's been up to lately (and I do hope he's better), Alan Boyd's name is going to be connected to this campaign because he remastered Sunflower and Surf's Up in 2009 - they're using those remasters.

Hey guys, look at Mr Positivity over here.

I think I'm going to go listen to some Beatles music for a while. To use one of my 1960's American hippie-isms, this situation has become "a bummer".

some of you guys need to stop falling for phil's posts lol  :spin

Yeah, well I tend to read only valuable information, so maybe I've missed this kind of reactions before. I read a lot of other forums (frank black, guided by voices, kristin hersh, weezer, to name a few) and these kind of posts are not tolerated over there. But you know, maybe I should just not care about it.

I hear ya. This stuff goes on here, but it usually fades pretty fast. I will say though, that you do need a thick skin in here, sometimes.

I'm only 22 so maybe i'm off base on this, but didn't records drop rather quietly in the days before the internet? Fans weren't informed every step of the way.

Phil, for all our sakes, stay away, please.

Phil you are giving yourself far too much credit here. Nobody is going to stop listening to the Beach Boys just because you can't refrain from posting endless bollocks on a message board.

WHY ARE WE COMPLAINING. A TRUE STEREO SMILEY SMILE, TODAY, AND SUMMER DAYS NOW EXISTS. IF WE WANT IT WE CAN EITHER WAIT OR.... GET IT OTHER WAYS!

This trolling by Phil needs to end with thou mighty banhammer once and for all.

:lol for real.

 :ohyeah

 :hat

So the blooboard changes designs and now we get Phil??  Sigh. 


John Manning.....love the avatar..fantastic ;D

hahahahhahaha didn't saw that yeah, awesome  :lol

O.K.......with pleasure.

I just noticed too haha

check out my new one :P

Don't feed the trolls.


Just ban them.

I don't see Wild Honey tho!

That's the joke, they'll probably ignore it haha

where's my stereo smile????  :P

Do we have any proof of this beyond the original advert ?

It's a bit premature to call the new stereo mixes "true" stereo when the previously-mono albums may not have all the elements necessary for a true stereo mix (Today! definitely doesn't).  It'll be interesting to see how they handle this.

http://www.emimusic.jp/intl/beachboys/release/index.php

Did you actually understand what I posted ? I didn't have anything to do with the Japanese remasters. I'm good, damn good, but even I can't tell anyone something I don't know.

As for the protecting my sources... you'll never understand, but it's called integrity, reliability and trustworthiness. It's why I have sources, and why you never, ever will.

I'm done with you. My life is currently sh*t enough without having to deal with your infantile persecution complex.

Excellent. Even allowing for the translationese, that's pretty unequivocal.  ;D

See, we managed to tell AGD something HE DIDN'T KNOW!  ;D


Hope things are ok with you, AGD.

Same here, I feel bad watching you get massacred by Phil lol

Hey Phil, in case you haven't noticed, we all enjoy having AGD here, now you need to respect him.

Best wishes AGD, hope your doing better and everybody is glad you are back.

I'm fortunate to be within 15 minutes of Jerry's.  He has literally over a million records in that store, and millions of others in personal storage.  I think he was in an episode of Hoarders.

I'm pretty sure I can't get excited about this unless "Wild Honey" is included

That's the only record I seriously think needs a remaster, the rest are fine IMO

Hey Slim Shady, where's the photo of Brian you have for your avatar from? Cool pic, don't think I've seen it before.

Wow, that's brutal! Have you ever thought of writing a book of threats?

If you keep this up, punk, your prized collection of rare Mike Love Not War bootlegs will be stamped to dust beneath my leathery leather boots! And don't bother crying to your mom - she already agreed with me that you're nothing. We decided that today while she was over at my pad listening to my copy of Bruce Johnston's Going Public in reverse!

Quit takin' the bait, AGD... 

You know what else is b.s.? That "Many Moods of Murry" is STILL only avaliable in Japan. Can someone refresh my memory? Who won the war? 'cause it seems to be we've been getting the short end of the stick for a long while now. And what's with all the Japanese bonus tracks? You think I like having to pay crazy import prices just so I can hear "Meant For YOu/Friends" on the "Pet SOunds LIve" CD? It's an insult! It's an outrage! We didn't land on Plymouth Rock! Plymouth Rock landed on us!!!!!

New to me too

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This!  Big time.

I hope things are well (enough) and get even better soon.

I don't know about international libel laws, but in the US, libel requires that the plaintiff's reputation take a hit in the community.  AGD will never succeed in a libel action under that requirement; his reputation is utterly unimpeachable in the Beach Boys community.

Didn't get my CD from Japan. And yes, it's legit.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Many-Moods-Murry-Wilson/dp/B001SGFA3C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341120178&sr=8-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Many-Moods-Murry-Wilson/dp/B001SGFA3C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1341120178&sr=8-1)

Great pic from a great era.
Makes me long for a special Super Deluxe Edition of "Sunflower"+"Surf's Up" with all the great songs from that period. "I Just Got My Pay", "Games 2 Can Play", "Good Time", "Our Sweet Love" (Brian BV mix), "California Slide" (Dennis), "Back Home" etc. All those had a special vibe I like. (to post something on topic, sort of)

Well...these look nice but if they're set up to resemble the Beatles 2009 remasters I'll pass. The damn glue came off the cardboard sleeves on the Beatles remasters and stuck to about half the CD's!  >:(

I know it's not the PC thing to say, but gimme plastic any day.

That said, I'm happy with the twofers so I doubt I'll be buying this stuff over again unless they came loaded with tons of unreleased bonus tracks.   

Needledrop though, am I right?

I saw this in HMV the other day - AT A REASONABLE PRICE! I wouldn't buy it though...

As a side note - my favourite version of 'Fly me to the moon' is by Julie London. :)

I have this version too and yes it was taken from a needledrop. Sounds great untill you listen to it on headphones and then you can hear the odd crackle.

Great version, great singer!

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'dis the one I got and it's legit.

that is a lot of pretty girls. nice cover murry.

Full list of tracklists translated by Google, purely for information.

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The whole lots is also to be available as a set, though apparently not a boxed set:

http://shop.emimusic.jp/shop/g/gSET-1113/:

I'm just baggudo that there're no bonus tracks.  Pet Sounds track title 11/24 is priceless. Summer Days track 3/15 is somewhat prescient.

■ TOCP-71371 "Surfing · USA (mono & stereo)"
01. Surfing · U.S.A.
02. Farmer's Daughter
03. Mizaru
04. Sutoukuto
05. Lonely Sea
06. Shut down
07. Noble Surfer
08. Honky Tonk
09. Rana
10. Surf Jam
11. Let's Go Trippin '
12. Finder's Keepers
13. Surfing · U.S.A.
14. Farmer's Daughter
15. Mizaru
16. Sutoukuto
17. Lonely Sea
18. Shut down
19. Noble Surfer
20. Honky Tonk
21. Rana
22. Surf Jam
23. Let's Go Trippin '
24. Finder's Keepers

■ TOCP-71372 "Surfer Girl (mono & stereo)"
01. Surfer Girl
02. Catch a Wave
03. Surfer Moon
04. South Bay Surfer
05. Rocking Surfer
06. Little Deuce Coupe
07. In My Room
Hawaii Dream 08.
09. Surfers rule
Club Car 10 Bokura.
11. Your Summer Dream
12. Boogie Woody
13. Surfer Girl
14. Catch a Wave
15. Surfer Moon
16. South Bay Surfer
17. Rocking Surfer
18. Little Deuce Coupe
19. In My Room
Hawaii Dream 20.
21. Surfers rule
Club Car 22 Bokura.
23. Your Summer Dream
24. Boogie Woody

■ TOCP-71373 "Little Deuce Coupe (mono & stereo)"
01. Little Deuce Coupe
02. Ballad Of All The Betsy
03. Be True to Your School
04. Car Crazy Cutie
05. Cherry Cherry Coupe
06.409
07. Shut down
08. Spirit of America
Club Car 09 Bokura.
10. No Go Showboat
11. Young Man Is Gone
12. Custom Machine
13. Little Deuce Coupe
14. Ballad Of All The Betsy
15. Be True to Your School
16. Car Crazy Cutie
17. Cherry Cherry Coupe
18.409
19. Shut down
20. Spirit of America
Club Car 21 Bokura.
22. No Go Showboat
23. Young Man Is Gone
24. Custom Machine

■ TOCP-71374 "Shut Down Vol.2 (mono & stereo)"
01. Fan fan fan
02. Do not Worry Baby
Perkin lot of love 03.
Wilson versus 04. Love
Bathed in the sun 05.
06. This Is Car Of Mine
07 love. Are Kyoku-sha
08. Pom-Pom Play Girl
09. Keep An Eye On Summer
10. Shut Down Part 2
11. Louis Louis
12. Denny's Drums
13. Fan fan fan
14. Do not Worry Baby
Perkin lot of love 15.
Wilson versus 16. Love
Bathed in the sun 17.
18. This Is Car Of Mine
19 love. Are Kyoku-sha
20. Pom-Pom Play Girl
21. Keep An Eye On Summer
22. Shut Down Part 2
23. Louis Louis
24. Denny's Drums

■ TOCP-71375 "All Summer Long (mono & stereo)"
01. I Get Around
02. All Summer Long
03. Hasshabai
04. Little Honda
05. Will Run Away
Big chance of 06. Carl
07. Wendy
Do you remember 08.
Maid of the beach 09.
10. Drive In
11 fun recording.
12. Do not Back Down
13. I Get Around
14. All Summer Long
15. Hasshabai
16. Little Honda
17. Will Run Away
Big chance of 18. Carl
19. Wendy
Do you remember 20.
Maid of the beach 21.
22. Drive In
23 fun recording.
24. Do not Back Down

■ TOCP-71376 "Today (mono & stereo)"
01 yo baby dance.
02. Good To My Baby
Put out a healthy 03.
Take 04. Punch
05. Help Me Rhonda
06. Dance Dance Dance
07. Please Let Me Wonder
08. I'm So Young
09. Kiss Me Baby
That girl knows 10.
11. In The Back Of My Mind
Along with the 12. Big Daddy
13 yo baby dance.
14. Good To My Baby
Put out a healthy 15.
Take 16. Punch
17. Help Me Rhonda
18. Dance Dance Dance
19. Please Let Me Wonder
20. I'm So Young
21. Kiss Me Baby
That girl knows 22.
23. In The Back Of My Mind
Along with the 24. Big Daddy

■ TOCP-71377 "Summer Days (mono & stereo)"
Daughter of 01. New York
02. Amusement Parks · USA
Kiss the girl 03.
04. Salt Lake City
05. Girl Do not Tell Me
06. Help Me Rhonda
07. California Girls
08. Let Him Run Wild
You a nice 09.
Summer of love 10.
11. I'm All Baggudo At My Man
12. And Your Dream Comes True
Daughter of 13. New York
14. Amusement Parks · USA
Kiss the girl 15.
16. Salt Lake City
17. Girl Do not Tell Me
18. Help Me Rhonda
19. California Girls
20. Let Him Run Wild
You a nice 21.
Summer of love 22.
23. I'm All Baggudo At My Man
24. And Your Dream Comes True

■ TOCP-71378 "party (mono & stereo)"
01. Harry Gully
Two people fall in love 02.
03. Tell Me Why
04. Papa Wu Mo Mo
05. Mountain Of Love
06 sorrow. Is Let's Spend
07. Devu~oteddo To You
08. Ali Upu
09. There's No Other
. 10 Medley: I Get Around - Little Deuce Coupe
Age 11. Will vary
12. Barbara Ann
13. Harry Gully
Two people fall in love 14.
15. Tell Me Why
16. Papa Wu Mo Mo
17. Mountain Of Love
18 sorrow. Is Let's Spend
19. Devu~oteddo To You
20. Ali Upu
21. There's No Other
. 22 Medley: I Get Around - Little Deuce Coupe
Age 23. Will vary
24. Barbara Ann

■ TOCP-71379 "Pet Sounds (Mono & Stereo)"
Would not It Be Nice 01.
02 I believe.
03. That's Not Me
04. Do not Talk
I'm Waiting for the Sun 05.
06 a little while.
07. Sloop John · B
God Only Knows 08.
09 the way of salvation.
10. Here Today
11 I'm useless.
12. Pet Sounds
13. Caroline No
Would not It Be Nice 14.
15 I believe.
16. That's Not Me
17. Do not Talk
I'm Waiting for the Sun 18.
19 a little while.
20. Sloop John · B
God Only Knows 21.
22 the way of salvation.
23. Here Today
24 I'm useless.
25. Pet Sounds
26. Caroline No

■ TOCP-71380 "Smiley Smile (mono & stereo)"
Heroes and villains 01.
02. Vu~ejitaburu
03. Fall Breaks And Back To Winter
04. She's Goin 'hold
05. Little Pad
06. Good Vibrations
07. With Me Tonight
08. Wind Chimes
09. Gettin 'Hungry
10. Wonderful
11. Whistle Inn
Heroes and villains 12.
13. Vu~ejitaburu
14. Fall Breaks And Back To Winter
15. She's Goin 'hold
16. Little Pad
17. Good Vibrations
18. With Me Tonight
19. Wind Chimes
20. Gettin 'Hungry
21. Wonderful
22. Whistle Inn

■ TOCP-71381 "Sun Flower (stereo)"
01. Slip On Through
02. THIS Houru World
03. Ad Sam Music To Your Day
04. Got To Know The Woman
05. Didori
06. It's About Time
07. Tears In The Morning
08. All I Wanna Do
09. Forever
10. Hour Sweet Love
11. At My Window
12. Cool Cool Water

■ TOCP-71382 "Surf's Up (stereo)"
01. Do not Go Near The Water
02. Long Promised Road
03. Take A Load Off Your Feet
04. Disney Girls (1957)
05. Student Demonstration Time
06. Feel froze
07. Lookin 'at Tomorrow (A Welfare Song)
08. A Day In The Life Of A Tree
09. Till I Die
10. Surf's Up

Really amped to hear Smiley in stereo.

Interesting that they don't have a stereo I Get Around listed on All Summer Long.

Hey, AGD, any word on what we can expect from the stereo Good Vibrations and/or I Get Around? Did someone find some multitracks?

As stated before, I've had nothing to do with these reissues (why would I ?) but unless everyone's stopped talking to me, the "GV" & "IGA" missing multi-tracks remain MIA. Unless someone made a safety copy of "IGA", they're gone for good as Brian cannibalized them for the faux live version on Concert !.

'Feel Froze'? Greatest Japanese translation error I've ever seen :lol

So "Sutoukuto", "Fan fan fan", "yo baby dance" and "Hasshabai" don't move you, huh?

What about "Put out a healthy" ("Don't Hurt My Little Sister") or "Take Punch" ("When I Grow Up (To Be a Man)"?

Do you really read the minutiae of these posts in the requisite detail, or just scan 'em, eh?   ;D

"Summer Days" track #10/22 poses cause for concern ;D

The best one is that underrated gem on Pet Sounds, 'I'm Useless'  :lol

Beat ya by a country mile!   ;D

Wow, no sh*t. That's crazy about IGA, I always assumed that was one of the single tracked vocals from the single version. Or was it, and they overdubbed audience effects on the double? Apologies in advance if I missed a previous post about this. What a trip it would be if they included original Duophonic mixes. SOMETHING other than the mono mix has to be there in the stereo sequence.

I started extracting the vocals from both songs, just messing around. Based on what I was able to do with my minimal extraction experience, I think the folks who get paid to do extractions could possibly pull off some really good stereo mixes of both. Then again, if they had created new stereo mixes I'm sure it would be a big selling point in the advertisement.  Also, I don't know if the instrumental take used for the final section of GV is floating around. (Pretty sure the one on the common instrumental is an alternate take.)

:lol ok, as classic as those are, replacing the 'L' with an 'R' in a Japanese translator is quite epic!

Nice to see some Julie London admirers/fans here on the board!

Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease give us a remastered Love You!!!!

WHY are they leaving out Wild Honey!?!?!

That's the only remaster I would ever care about.

Also nice to see someone here on the board who has been to Jerry's Records in Pittsburgh, PA! One of my favorite stores on the planet! I bought a vinyl copy of "The Many Moods of Murray Wilson" there. The rarer Beach Boys lps don't stay in stock too long.

I wouldn't say that Jerry is a hoarder. He is a VERY serious collector. Vinyl is his life. He loves records. We're fortunate that we have him here. Many of his auctions ship over seas. Fantastic record store. It's been a little while and I need to get back there soon.  Check out his website:

http://www.jerrysrecords.com/

Wow...I can't wait to hear that Pet Sounds song that the Doors apparently covered. :)

This looks interesting: "I'm All Baggudo At My Man"!

Harry Gully and Louis Louis really crack me up.

Beat ya by another country mile!   :lol

Hooray For Pittsburgh Beach Boys Fans!

Jerry's is such a sweet store.  They have a pretty amazing beach boys vinyl selection but I unfortunately don't own a turntable.

Methinks this will be a new word in the vocabulary of Beach Boys fans, joining the company of "foda."

I'm hoping that the "skipping" of Wild Honey, Friends and 20/20 on this Japanese site is some kind of fluke. Just speaking for myself, Friends is one of my favorite BB albums and would benefit immensely from a new mix. This was really the last complete album we got of full-on Brian arrangements utilizing the Wrecking Crew, which in my mind forms a kind of loose trilogy with Pet Sounds and SMiLE.  There's a lot of detail that would be gained from a new mix, not that it would fully "replace" the original, but it would be fascinating.

"Skipping" those three albums, even if just for the first wave of releases, is like officially branding them as lesser works. Again, hopefully it's just not accurate as to what's really going on. Friends has been a well reviewed cult favorite and high on fans' lists for some time now, and Wild Honey is no slouch either!

If only.

The only stereo remixes are the albums that never had a true stereo mix to begin with. Even if they did reissue Friends in this line of remasters, I'm sure it would just contain the original 1968 stereo mix.

Are we sure about that? Well, I guess that will save me some money.

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Oh for the love of....

Maybe they are simply holding them back so they can have a couple 60's albums left over to mix in with the inevitable second wave of slightly less respected 70's albums.

Or maybe they need a little more time. Sunflower and Surfs Up were ready a couple of years ago, so maybe that's why they made this wave of CDs and not the next.

Or maybe we should just cool our jets and wait and see what unfolds before we start assuming that Capitol Records and BRI have decided to send Friends and Wild Honey to some sort of musical concentration camp because of their inferiority. Sheesh. 

I think you're overreacting, mate.

At 14 pages and growing, I think the board is overreacting to the very little information that's been put out.

Well, I wrote at least twice in my post that the Japanese info probably means nothing. Sorry to add speculation to speculation.

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Lol, this whole board is always overreacting about everything.. post a banana gif and you'll see.

Anyone here pre-ordered the CDs? I'm waiting to see them in CD Japan.

All kidding aside, I hope AGD’s situation has improved.  He is much appreciated here, and missed when he is gone.

So.......  Everyone has an opinion about the Japanese masters, and in today’s egalitarian world, everyone’s opinion is “valid”.  Heh heh heh

Be that as it may.......

To me, the announcement of these Japanese re-masters is a slam to American/UK/European fans, unless they plan to offer the rest of us something.

I mean: Hello!  Did they forget about us?  C’mon people.

I could make peace with the fact that they were Japan only - if Capitol/EMI doesn't think they'll make money off of them here, fine. I just want some more information!

I have a question; I haven't read the entire thread so I apologize if this was covered.

These remasters are scheduled to be released in Japan only. What does that mean as it relates to the physical product? Can I assume that the album covers will be printed in English, but the liner notes (if any) and the titles printed on the actual CD will be printed in Japanese?

If the above assumption is true, would it cost THAT much money to produce the same CD's with English printing on them so they could be distributed in other countries?

Interestingly Chaos.com (an Aussie based online store) has the Twofers available for pre-order with a release date July 6, 2012. Are these new pressings of the old twofers? Does this mean we won't get those Japanese versions here? Or does it mean nothing at all?

http://www.chaos.com/search?q=BEACH+BOYS&t=all (http://www.chaos.com/search?q=BEACH+BOYS&t=all)

ArtistBeach Boys
Number of Discs1
Recording EnvironmentStudio
Label / StudioEMI
Media Content Formatalbum
Original year of release1968
Media FormatAudio CD
Year of release2001
Cast & CrewThe Beach Boys (Music Performer)
Mark Linett (Reissue) (Producer

 :(

Yep. So it's clearly a re-pressing (or remaining stock)  of the 2001 twofers. Like I said -  If these are getting shipped out in Australia it could mean that we won't be getting the 2012 remasters anytime soon.

...or it could mean nothing at all.

Yeah I wonder why? We had the twofers a few years back I bought them all.. Kids scratched them..

What happened to AGD?

"Mate", he is responding to the overreaction of others. Don't be dense.

Why would you think these are the new pressings?  The new pressings don't have two different albums on each disc, but the stereo and mono mixes of an album.

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You are my density.

 :lol

Probably because that site only lists the twofers as "Available for Pre-order", meaning they aren't even out yet, meaning this run of them at least, is new.

Sorry if there was confusion. I never assumed these were the brand news 2012 remasters.... I said "are these new pressings of the old twofers". I'm assuming they've printed up a new run of the old two-fers (due to there being a pre-order date). The alternative is that these are old-stock.

So what's the general consensus on these remasters? Japan only?

I'm not keen on the Beatles style strip down the side. Is that the de facto method of signaling a newly remastered back catalogue now?

I wish they would do something really creative with all the bonus cuts, considering how significant the Beach Boys' unreleased catalogue is.

If it was left up to me, I would gather the bonus cuts from each period and release a set of 'new' albums like Dylan's bootleg series. The series could contain official releases of Landlocked, Adult Child etc. If Neil Young can do it with Homegrown, Chrome Dreams and so on, why not The Beach Boys? Can you imagine how great a Smiley Smile/Wild Honey/Friends/20/20 outtakes collection could be? Who here would not drop a wad on a 5 or 6 album series or upwards, especially if each release was staggered?

Anyone?

I think he once mentioned family affairs.

Have you guys heard about that new, revolutionary, "private life" concept?

It's been a hard week on the day job.

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The private life of AGD
the world is wondering what he did...

From California to Mexico
everybody just got know..

 :lol Well played!

I was hoping they would do this for the US and Europe, as well as Japan, but alas, it looks like they won't. However, I would posit a guess that they will be using these new mixes on the upcoming box set and greatest hits album. Anyways, I guess I might get a few of these Japanese reissues, if there is no news on the US front soon.

As far as previously unreleased material, I'm thinking the only way we are getting that is through the box set. Hopefully it's at least five discs, with at least 25 or so tracks that haven't been released before. I don't think that is unreasonable to hope for since the 1993 box set had around the same amount of previously unreleased material. Hopefully all of Alan Boyd's hard work will pay off and we'll get the cream of the crop of what's in the vaults. I read an interview he did where he mentioned "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again", "Where Is She", "California Feelin'" from 1974, and "Goin To The Beach" as being wonderful, if I remember correctly. So as long as BRI doesn't block any of this great material, and Capitol does their job, we should get some cool stuff.

As far as a Bootleg Series, a la Bob Dylan, well, that would be a dream. Even one set like The Bootleg Series Volumes 1-3, would be amazing. But I just don't think BRI or Capitol really has the interest in rarities that Dylan's people do. I say "Dylan's people" because his Bobness doesn't seem to care all that much about his old work once he's moved past it. The Beach Boys I think are different though, at least Mike I would guess, because he probably doesn't see much monetary profit in releasing the stuff. Al, I think might be into it. Brian I don't think would care either way. Bruce probably would make fun of the people who would buy it, since they're like "too into The Beach Boys then he ever would be in a million years buddy!"

http://theseconddisc.com/2012/07/04/wouldnt-it-be-nice-beach-boys-mono-and-stereo-reissues-due-in-japan-is-america-next/ (http://theseconddisc.com/2012/07/04/wouldnt-it-be-nice-beach-boys-mono-and-stereo-reissues-due-in-japan-is-america-next/)

The Second Disc is reporting about the Japanese reissues, it's starting to feel more "real".  I sure wish Capitol would break their silence.

So still no Wild Honey, Friends, 20/20 and the rest of the 70's albums (i don't care much for the 80's & 90's)? this is odd.

Nothing they couldn't have learned here. ;D

And I see Phil's contributing his whining pessimism to the debate.

Where are people getting the impression that some of these have been remixed?  It wouldn't surprise me if they're using vintage mono/stereo/duophonic mixes.

There's a passage that refers to first time stereo versions of, I think, Today ! and Smiley Smile.

AWWWWWW YEEEAAAAAH :afro

That's all I have to say about that.

Stereo Smiley Smile is going to blow my mind!!!
I am hopeful for an eventual stereo Wild Honey. That will also blow my mind!

I'm looking foward to hear the stereo Smiley Smile, Summer Days and mono All Summer Long!
But it's disappointing to see this CDs to be released only in Japan.
Anyone pre-ordered some of them in HMV Japan?

Would work out at £252 (today's rate) for all the discs, plus (I assume) P&P. Won't be happening today…

But happy to wait-see if they get a UK release. If not, I'll cry then.

Japan only notwithstanding, I have a feeling many of you will find some way of getting this...torrent...of new remasters. *cough*

Screw Torrent; they'll be up on a couple of BB blogs before that. FLAC would be the desirable format. But I'll buy the legit copies for the original packaging.

Damn, it sure would be nice to have Beach Boys versions of the 2009 Beatles mono and stereo box sets, wouldn't it?

Where's the Surfin' Safari album in stereo?  Mono only masters and no multi's for that album?

Safari multitracks (OK, 3-tracks) exist (except fro "Surfin'" of course).

Yeah!

I want all the Beach Boys' albums uniformly remastered and packaged.  I have both sets of two-fers (1990 and 2000) and frankly I'm done with "twofers."  I like the mono/stereo, sans bonus track treatment better.  The 2000 twofers did improve the "quality" of sound in some respects, but were mastered too loud, which negated the benefits.  Depending on the album, the 1990 twofer might be preferable.  Plus the package was essentially the same...  ::).  No more budget twofers!!!

So...fresh remasters in 2012 has the potential to sound really good -- SMiLE sounds pretty decent, as did the Beatles sets.  I'm sure they'll be slightly "jacked up" and a tad too aggressive (Mark Linett?) but I suspect not as extreme as the 2000's.

But again... I want the whole catalog.  Surfin' Safari to at least BB 85.  Still Crusin' and SIP, too.  Why not.


Bonus tracks should get special treatment, sort of a Beach Boys Lost & Found, volume 1-12 or whatever.  Never happen...but SMiLE happened.

yeh, 'land ahoy' has a pretty good stereo mix on 'rarities' and the twofer.

Any more news about these? Do we have any forum members from Japan who are planning on buying them?

Why did they exclude most of my favorite albums?!?!  :wall

Stuff of legends…

No-one knows wtf is happening with these. At the mo' they're only slated for Japanese release but that's only cos the word is out there; who knows what (if anything) is to be announced for the rest of the world.

Also, there's nothing to say whether they're a one-off batch release, or the first of several batches of releases.

The only official word to date is on the Japanese EMI sit that's already been linked to (unless any thing's happened since I looked this morning).

So, there might be more releases to cme, there might not. here might be releases elsewhere around the world, there might not.

It's far too early to start banging heads against brick walls.

Unless you're the Voldemorte of Silence.

Something about the mix of The Girl From New York City has always bugged me, I think it's a little busy and cool elements get buried left right and centre (literally, it's in mono  ;) ) I'm really psyched to hear it in stereo.

Where can one order these new CDs from
Thanks

Well, as posted earlier, right here, in this very thread, you can order them from EMI Japan's online store.

And they're also now available on Amazon JP, and I believe Phil Cohen mentioned that they're at HMV Japan also.

To quote (courtesy of Google translator):

"These are currently only CD release of all Japan, the package specification and newly renovated Dejisurivu."

"Dejisurivu" would appear to mean "digital sleeve specification"… I think; which might mean the sleeves have been created using new digital scans of the original artwork, at a guess…

Didn't see them on Amazon Japan - they are on HMV Japan.
Was hoping we had a couple Japanese members who could fill us in with information when these get released over there.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/ザ・ビーチ・ボーイズ/e/B000APTGZ0

Awesome, thanks for the head's up John.  I sure wish Capitol would get off their duff and and make an announcement here soon.

I'm sure they will – if there's an announcement to be made.

:angry It's all in Japanese
:smash

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When I search for new Beach Boys product from the translated site, I can't find the new remasters. I can only find them via the link John posted somewhere above. I wonder if Amazon JP will offer 30 second samples at some point?

well theres two good vibrations on the smiley disc. So official stereo mix?

Given the quality of amazon's sound samples and the fact that these are remastered versions of tracks we've had since, in some cases, the start of the '60s, I can't see any value in that. Even the new stereo clip of GVs will, coming off a PC's soundcard and speakers, sound like a fourth generation cassette transfer, surely? Only way to sample 'em properly is going to be to buy them.

Not possible.

Well reminded -  I should amend my latest post to read "Even the assumed stereo clip of GVs will, coming off a PC's soundcard and speakers, sound like a fourth generation cassette transfer, surely?"

Wow, this thread with its dearth of information (what little there is obfuscated by crazy Japanese-English translations) is surely custom built for Phil Cohen!

Which makes you wonder - what are they doing for these that they thought they absolutely should not do for TSS? Mark and Alan were interviewed about the stereo GV and said they just couldn't, and that it would sound awful. Label cracking the whip?

Maybe it's not the single version? Maybe they've used one of the earlier mixes, or a  live version? Or maybe the tracklisting has been released too early, and is incorrect.

It could possibly be a instrumental mix like on the EP. There have been several fan-made GV stereo mixes using digital extraction techniques. Technically, not "true stereo", but it could also be that.

Original, and goole translation:

8月にブライアン・ウィルソン参加としては33年ぶりの来日公演を行なうビーチ・ボーイズ（The Beach Boys）の来日を記念して、彼らのオリジナル名盤12タイトルの最新デジタル・リマスタリング・シリーズが7月25日に発売されることが決定！ これらはすべて日本盤のみの発売となります。

Brian Wilson as participation to commemorate the visit to Japan (The Beach Boys), the digital re-mastering the latest series of 12 titles they board the original name of the Beach Boys performances in Japan for the first time in 33 years in August decision that will be released on July 25! These will be released of all Japanese release only.

Duophonyc? I mean, "duophonic"?

I doubt it's a duophonic mix. For songs where a complete stereo mix just isn't possible (such as "Good Vibrations"), I would hope they'd just mix what's there into stereo. In the case of "Good Vibrations", that likely means the same stereo instrumental we've heard before, which is fine with me. A few bits of vocals do still exist, but it'd sound strange and fragmented to have them just pop up over the stereo backing track. They'd be interesting to hear and should have made the TSS box set, but having them on a stereo twofer would be odd.

Some day, I'm sure technology will change a bit and a very convincing makeshift stereo mix can be achieved. Folks around here have gotten some impressive results, although there are still issues (imo) that I wouldn't want to hear on an official release.

Shoot. If it's indeed a Japan-only release, then honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if these remasters presented albums that had stereo/mono mixes in full, but in the cases of Smiley Smile or Today!, they may be the mono mixes and the duophonic mixes given that these seem to be an attempt at a "Let's release definitive, as-close-as-you-can-get-to-the-original versions" kind of remasters. I don't think they'd take the time to make a bunch of new stereo mixes and then only release them in Japan.

Agree, and I hope the statement can be read as simply implying that they won't be released in this format outside of Japan.

Maybe the rest of the world will get a Capitol Years box set of the remastered Mono/Stereo albums, and maybe a successor Brother Years albums box set of remasters:

Box 1 Surfin' Safari to 20/20

Box 2 Sunflower to 'KTSA

and the option to buy both together, bundled with an exclusive 4-disc Box 3 "For Diehards: The Lean Years" (encompassing '85 thu' to Summer In Paradise, with assorted strays such as Crocodile Rock & Happy Endings etc).

I'm in!  In this day and age of repackaging existing material for exorbitant prices -- why the heck not?!!!  Today, single albums are getting massive multi-disc boxes, north of $100.  Even the Beach Boys had their beautifully packaged little boxset of all their singles....

(http://991.com/newGallery/Beach-Boys-US-Singles-Collec-436092.jpg)

So...it's not too much to ask to get a "Beatles in Mono-" sort of box for all the Beach Boys.  Mono/Stereo...all their albums.  250 bux.  I couldn't afford it....but still.   :-\    I just want it to sound good though.  Not overly processed, compressed and jacked-up.

This would be totally ideal for me. If they're gonna do a total catalog overhaul, they should do it right. Like, I really can't listen to most of SIP, but keeping it out of print and omitting it from the tour programs is just dumb. It happened, you can't take it back, all albums and events are important to your history and your existence as an artist in one way or another, so pretending like it didn't happen doesn't really work.

I agree.  But regarding SIP, I was listening recently to some 80's and early 90's pop -- and I noticed, honestly, it's all like that.  There's simply a major cheesy, goofy pop-thing going on...as we all know.  But it really hit me and put into perspective that BB85 and SIP and Still Crusin' -- they're really not that bad taken in context for what they are.  It's not there best stuff, obviously.  Brian was MIA.  But, I mean they were the Beach Boys...not some underground or niche genre music.  They always stayed in the POP vein.  Minus Smiley and Smile...they've always trended with pop stylings -- not fringe.

And if you listen to these (admittedly not very good) albums, the pain is softened a lot (for me) when I remember -- hey, this is the 80s and early 90s.  This is what was happening.

I've been listening to it in that context recently, I've gotten to love albums like McCartney II and Still Crusin' because of it, and of course i've always loved BW 80'

Well I know that. I'm Just saying that something stereo with the name of good vibrations is on that cd.
Be it a backing track, early vocals, digital extraction or something else. For the whole album though wouldn't there be parts missing in the stereo mix?

FatherOfTheMan brought this MP3 download to light a while back but no one really commented on it. I was curious if anyone had any information on this 2012 mono remaster of Pet Sounds (Who did the mixing? What is different about it?)...

http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Sounds-Mono/dp/B008F67RH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie= (http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Sounds-Mono/dp/B008F67RH0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=)

Not just Pet Sounds... Amazon UK lists four or five "remastered" versions of the Surfin' Safari album released as MP3 downloads earlier this year though lacking the proper album artwork. I wondered, when I first noticed these, whether there's a copyright expiry issue come up? Just coincidence that SS is one of the missing albums from the Japanese remaster series?

I hope they remaster Pet Sounds again. 20 different masters aren't quite enough for me. They should release a mono fold-down of the stereo mix. They should remaster a remaster. Has THAT ever been done? Can you imagine the results? It'd be a nutbuster, rest assured.

I'm from Brazil, but I pre-ordered Smiley Smile.
And because it's so expensive, I'll buy one per month.
I'll buy 9 from these remasters. The exceptions: Pet Sounds, Sunflower and Surf's Up (the last two I have in vinyl, they're the same remasters).

In the UK, there's a copyright lapse thing happening where public domain labels can issue material that is 50+ years old without permission/paying royalties.

:lol

Exactly.  We don't have that.  Fold-down the stereo --> to mono --> then duophonic-ize that bad-boy.  Simulated stereo of the stereo, baby.  With added echo.  Best played with your head in blender.

There's really only one more PS remaster I'd add to my fleet -- a decent hi-res mono.  I would buy another MFSL SACD if they did a mono.  I'd still feel like an idiot buying it again...but you know.

Not to be a dick, but it was I who brought it to light!

Apologies :-D.

I remember seeing a thread he made at the beginning of the month about this - the day it was released.

Regardless, would love any more information on it (is it worth purchasing?)

Not opposed at all. Sans the sudden "Maybe I did push the Q-tip a bit too far in the other day" moment in "Wouldn't It Be Nice?" where Mike's bridge vocal was "restored", the recent MFSL releases of the stereo mixes are pretty durn good. I still wanna know how "You Still Believe In Me" suddenly has a doubled vocal again.

They can remaster it all they want but it's still a 320 mp3. Like installing a jacuzzi in a shithouse.

The last horizon for Pet Sounds re-issues is a CD-ROM Containing the raw multitracks for us to do up our own mixes.

I would absolutely DIE (and waste hundreds of hours) if that ever happened.

I can't believe people still believe this stuff. I have taken many double blind tests and except for very few exceptions, I never could tell the difference.

They (whomever at MFSL) took the single lead vocal of YSBIM and artificially doubled it.

I just bought the Amazon mono 2012 remaster.

It sounds much more cleaned up than Pet Sounds Sessions mono album.

The hissing at the beginning of WIBN is pretty much gone (though a few 'pops' occur during that intro :/). The guitars in Sloop John B seem to have been turned down a bit, really letting the vocals shine. You can really notice the difference during GOK when the tambourine(?) comes in (:08 mark) when comparing to the Pet Sounds Sessions mono version.

Anyways, to my ears it sounds great - each instrument seems much more prominent, the vocals are cleaned up a bit. There's nothing truly earth shattering here, but if you want a good mono version of Pet Sounds for on-the-go, I recommend it.

I highly doubt that. Whatever was done, was done by Mark Linett. MFSL only masters and releases what is given to them. Mark stated at Hoffman many months before release that the doubled lead was back.

:afro  Ooo, yeah..  That'd be on point.

But then they'd need to come out with the Blu-ray-Rom that had all the multitracks in Hi-Res 24/192.

Yeah, I really liked the MFSL stereo a lot.  Mike's bridge-vocal "restoration" is the only scar.  And...YSBIM's double track vocal is -- shall we say -- a surprise? (eye-brow raised.)

With all due respect, that's due to your ears. A trained listener (sound engineers for one) will most of the time be able to tell the difference between a compressed file and a lossless file.

CD-Roms are so 1999, it'll be a digital Cloud like McCartney's Rude Studio.

With all due respect most if not all make the claim they hear a difference, but from what I read many refuse to take the test.

I'd like to point out here that it has been more than two weeks since this info came out, and the press release that many here insisted would come from Capitol has not come.

There is no confirmation these are coming to the U.S. or Europe. Not a word. Not a peep. After this amount of time, I think it's safe to say that these are Japan-only releases, and likely to stay that way.

I betcha if Phil Cohen said that, everyone would be tearing him a new one.

Did Phil Cohen jack your account? ;D

I'm just saying that the wall of secrecy has descended, is all.

What date was "The SMiLE Sessions" officially announced by Capitol last year?

[Edit]Looks like it was on or around August 31st[Edit]

That said..  give it a few weeks before you start making a bucket list.

We haven't even gotten the promised greatest hits release or the archival/"career spannig box set" yet (nor do we even have a release date for them).  When those are out, I'll feel safe to throw in the towel on these remasters.  Considering I'm not that desperate to get these remasters, I'm not having sleepless nights over it so the wait won't bother me, in the least.

Me too.  I'll survive if they don't make it to my house.  If it was a MFSL SACD of Love You!  Then I'd be all sweaty-like.

 :afro

Oh, keep talkin' dirty to me!

February/March 2011, actually.

EMI Japan are effectively independent of Capitol. No reason at all that these discs should be released world-wide. And I offer that those insisting that there would be a Capitol news release share with Cohen the trait of not having the first idea what's actually going on. This, FYI, isn't a veiled reference that I do, just a statement of fact.  ;D

I actually meant the full details of the release, not the initial statement by Al made in February.

in 11 days, the internet will have a Stereo mix of Smiley Smile, and Today.


So.... STFU.

Ummm?

I don't know if your comment was directed at myself, or not.  I will say that endless speculation and wishful thinking is part of being a nerdy fan of a band is all about.  If you think the 18 pages of this thread are amusing, the 21 THREADS of speculation about the Beatles mono box set on the Hoffman board in the summer of 2009 would have you in stitches.

I can say for sure I have never once 'insisted there would be a Capitol press release'; I have however lamented the fact that I wish there would be one.  And will in all likelihood continue to hold out hope that there's a remastered set of albums a box and a new 'anthology'.  Can't help myself.

With a scratch and sniff sample of Brian's bathrobe with cocaine, birthday cake, steak, and dust from the Moog mixed in?

This thread will be awesome if they end up being the duophonic mixes !

Or it'll end up being one giant flame war.

In that case, I'll get my Johnson's popcorn out....  ;D

I'm thinking hard about buying a few titles just to sample them.  I have a "Greatest Hits Vol. 1 (1962-1965) that was pressed in 2000 by EMI Japan; it sounds fantastic.  I don't know who did the mastering.

Some of Mark Linett's mastering decisions in the past have caused me to really shake my head.  That said, I really thought the team (Linett/Boyd) did a splendid job on the SMiLE box.  So I think it bodes well for these, their possible exclusivity to Japan not withstanding.

If these aren't being released in the West, that's what the internet is for. Cheers, 21st century.

My mindset.

So I haven't been a member here very long but I'm already getting the vibe that deviating one's opinion from the group's opinion isn't welcome? 

It IS welcome...but be prepared for some heavy resistance if it's not a "correct" opinion.

I can understand ripping into people that are overly negative, no one likes a Debbie Downer.  But I was getting the feeling that some of that was directed at me and I'm not sure what I said that warranted it?

Usually everything is pretty relaxed, but the board tends to find itself a whipping boy from time to time to take out frustration on, which is why people will spend pages bitching about Phil Cohen when he isn't even actively posting in a thread.

I don't think there's any chance that Capitol will not release something eventually.

Probably for good reason, who likes a Debbie Downer?


Likewise.  I want to be patient but damn if it isn't tempting to get a couple of titles from Amazon Jp.

Don't take anything personally. I don't know why Fatheroftheman told you to "STFU" but I don't think he meant it. People just get excited around here.

Glad you're here though...Always nice to have new voices in the mix!

Does anyone know anything about the "Smiley Smile Maximus mix"?

I saw some info about it on a BB blog...I'd love to hear it!

I wouldn't take his comment personally. He approached it from the angle of "well, if they don't release it in the USA, they'll be on the 'internet' in 11 days..." meaning those who are crafty will find a way to get them. :)

We're a good bunch. As the Fish said, sometimes the board members find a whipping boy but that's just board life. However, there are some here, even regulars, who cannot take a dissenting opinion.

Final word on these remasters, just the truth.


As of now, no word on US releases or UK for that matter from Capitol/EMI
That doesn't mean they're not coming, just none yet.
For anyone who thinks not, stereo mixes now exist (apparently) for Smiley Smile, Today, and SD&SN,
On cd, and the Internet (as of the 25th.)
All in all, they exist, in today's world anything that exists can be bought from anywhere, if you really want it, price shouldn't matter. And if it does, you'll get it somehow.

Nonsense!!  >:(  What kind of opinion is that!?!  All opinions are welcome!!  Except that one.   :lol

Nah.... we're one big dysfunctional family.  I always remember, in the end, we're all koo-koo for coco-puffs here.  In this case "coco-puffs" is the Beach Boys.  And we're always looking for our next score.

I'm not dysfunctional. I;'m not koo-koo for coco-puffs. But I am deviant.

All views welcome and all freedoms respected. Helmets and gloves optional.  ;D

Helmets are for pussies.  Look at me...I not helmet on.  I turned in good!!

The Japanese reissue market is unique, and often doesn't have anything to do with products released elsewhere in the world.  Unique remasters and reissue packages are produced exclusively for the Japanese market all the time.

Details were announced 3/11/11 by Capitol. Actual track listings some weeks later.

My strong impression, as stated before, is that Capitol Japan are acting on their own in this project. Hopefully the parent company will take note.

Not quite Andrew. As somebody pointed out earlier in the thread, it wasn't announced 'til August I'm pretty sure. So I'm assuming hopefully within the next month or so we get news on the box set.

http://www.billboard.com/news/beach-boys-lost-smile-album-to-see-release-1005070202.story#/news/beach-boys-lost-smile-album-to-see-release-1005070202.story (http://www.billboard.com/news/beach-boys-lost-smile-album-to-see-release-1005070202.story#/news/beach-boys-lost-smile-album-to-see-release-1005070202.story)

http://www.examiner.com/article/official-smile-announcement-from-capitol-emi-records (http://www.examiner.com/article/official-smile-announcement-from-capitol-emi-records)

You were saying ?

We shouldn't be discussing the remasters at all. If Capitol finds out we're talking about it before the official press release they will pull the plug on the whole project, just like they did with the Smile box.

At least that's what Steve Hoffman told me.

Argh. I know they announced the release of SMiLE earlier in the year, but the actually tracklistings didn't come 'til August.

Much as I like to be optimistic about this kind of thing, I believe you're on the mark. As posted earlier:

Like I said, but the details of the release - the formats - were made public in mid-March.

True, dat.  ;D

Believe me, I trust Andrew in what he says. On the other hand, Toshiba-EMI have done other releases that were Japan only, but except for artwork and the such, they always used pre-existing audio transfers. In this case though, these are supposedly all-new remasters and remixes from Mark, Alan & Dennis. Seems like EMI went to great cost to do this just for Japan. Just hoping something is in the works for later down the line.

Should we self-impose a Hoff of Silence?

:lol

A bunch of Van Morrison albums got the exclusive Japanese SHM CD treatment, Astral Weeks included which sounds incredible (I downloaded it illegally)

If that is anything to go by this is exclusive to Japan, possibly to celebrate their tour over there and his nothing to do with any future box sets etc

Don't mess with the Hoff.  ::) :p

Right on.  When I said August..I was referring to the 'details about the release' stories...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/31/beach-boys-announce-smile-release (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2011/aug/31/beach-boys-announce-smile-release)

Should have clarified. 

What exactly are people expecting from more remasters of discs that have been remastered and released numerous times already? I get the stereo versions if none officially exists thing but what else am I missing? The only disc I own that sounds inferior is the 1990 Today/Summer Days 2-fer, primarily because Today sounds muddy as it always has so how would that get fixed by another remaster? I thought it was the original mix that's inferior and was under the impression it can't be altered. I'm not saying it wouldn't, I'm just trying to understand why so many people seem excited and eager to spend even more money on the same stuff again and again.

For me, I want the original mono albums more than new stereo mixes. 

Well, I could understand if the 2001 or 1990 remasters were perfect soundwise. They aren't. The 1990 issues suffer from noise reduction and the 2001 remasters have some wierd EQ moves (I know the original albums are bright, but they souldn't sound THAT bright).

And, to understand how a remaster of the same mix can be worth another purchase, compare any previous issue of Pet Sounds in stereo with the new MoFi stereo remaster. The difference is pretty clear - we have a definitive issue of Pet Sounds in stereo. Even Mark L. says it's the best version out there.

It's a fan thing.

Why is this still being talked about, just because something is only released in Japan (for now) doesn't mean we can't get it.

Why shouldn't we talk about it?

"You know, it seems the more we talk about it, it only makes it worse to live without it, but let's talk about it." ;)

+1 awesome points

Very nice!  This and the "Caroline No" lyric reference in the "Brian's mouth" thread are this week's highlights.