Mike and Bruce Tour 2014

[ontor pertawst]

 

TM is scam, its basic hindu meditation teachings sold to westerners for thousands of dollars. If the TM people and Mike Love were really into helping people, they would not charge huge amounts of money per session.

Your source for Mike personally charging "huge amounts of money", please ? Because that's precisely what you've posted, no getting around it.

Besides, TM now only charges $960 instead of $1500 for the introductory adult course. Or initial payment of $240 and 3 additional monthly payments of $240. I simply don't understand how anybody could get the idea it was a scam!

You can really get good value for the money if you bring your significant other,  initial payment of $420 and 3 additional monthly payments of $420 for both... act now!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Well he is a part of an organization that charges 2500 dollars for basic stress relief concepts. Plus gives out the same mantras to thousands of people. TM is a cult that nearly derailed the BBs in the 1970s, funny how "crazy" BW doesnt follow it.

Mike practises TM, he's not part of the controlling organisation. Yes, like pretty much every organised religion, there's an element of soaking and misleading the adherents but... supposing I was a practising Roman Catholic (I'm not, but for the purposes of illustration...): would that make me answerable for the decades of sexual abuse inflicted by RC priests on the children in their spiritual care ? By your logic yes: I practise the religion, ergo I am responsible. To return to my original question: your source for Mike personally chatging the amounts you've stated here, please.

BTW, I think you'll find it was 1968 when TM adversely affected the band's financial position... and if we're going to apportion blame fairly, it was Dennis who first persuaded the others to meet with Maharishi. 

[startBBtoday]

Well he is a part of an organization that charges 2500 dollars for basic stress relief concepts. Plus gives out the same mantras to thousands of people. TM is a cult that nearly derailed the BBs in the 1970s, funny how "crazy" BW doesnt follow it.

Mike practises TM, he's not part of the controlling organisation. Yes, like pretty much every organised religion, there's an element of soaking and misleading the adherents but... supposing I was a practising Roman Catholic (I'm not, but for the purposes of illustration...): would that make me answerable for the decades of sexual abuse inflicted by RC priests on the children in their spiritual care ? By your logic yes: I practise the religion, ergo I am responsible. To return to my original question: your source for Mike personally chatging the amounts you've stated here, please.

BTW, I think you'll find it was 1968 when TM adversely affected the band's financial position... and if we're going to apportion blame fairly, it was Dennis who first persuaded the others to meet with Maharishi. 

Is Mike definitely not part of the controlling organization? He certainly likes to promote it in every single concert/interview.

[GhostyTMRS]

Well he is a part of an organization that charges 2500 dollars for basic stress relief concepts. Plus gives out the same mantras to thousands of people. TM is a cult that nearly derailed the BBs in the 1970s, funny how "crazy" BW doesnt follow it.

Mike practises TM, he's not part of the controlling organisation. Yes, like pretty much every organised religion, there's an element of soaking and misleading the adherents but... supposing I was a practising Roman Catholic (I'm not, but for the purposes of illustration...): would that make me answerable for the decades of sexual abuse inflicted by RC priests on the children in their spiritual care ? By your logic yes: I practise the religion, ergo I am responsible. To return to my original question: your source for Mike personally chatging the amounts you've stated here, please.

BTW, I think you'll find it was 1968 when TM adversely affected the band's financial position... and if we're going to apportion blame fairly, it was Dennis who first persuaded the others to meet with Maharishi. 

Is Mike definitely not part of the controlling organization? He certainly likes to promote it in every single concert/interview.

Well, Paul McCartney is not part of the controlling organization of PETA but he promotes the hell out of it too.

[drbeachboy]

Amazing how Dennis was the first to introduce TM and riding the oldies train through his meetings and later hiring of Guercio, yet Mike gets credited/blamed for both. It is amazing how the actual facts have done nothing to change perceptions.

[ontor pertawst]

Well, hopefully you guys will be able to fix that and get more people furious at Dennis Wilson or something.

[drbeachboy]

Well, hopefully you guys will be able to fix that and get more people furious at Dennis Wilson or something.

Yeah, well we sure do get furious with Mike now, don't we?

[ontor pertawst]

He seems to step in it an awful lot. I guess as Curly put it, Mike is just "a victim of circumstance!"

[Bud Shaver]

Some pics from a couple weeks ago taken by my brother at a private show:









I believe these were part of a business/tech conference called Dreamforce '14.

[drbeachboy]

He seems to step in it an awful lot. I guess as Curly put it, Mike is just "a victim of circumstance!"

Yes, and we do our damnedest to condemn him whether for the truth or for the fiction which we want to believe as true. Curly also said "truth is stranger than fiction, Judgy, Wudgy".

[ontor pertawst]

Yeah, but Moe said "Only fools are positive," so that cancels him out and we have to turn to Larry for wisdom.

[drbeachboy]

Yeah, but Moe said "Only fools are positive," so that cancels him out and we have to turn to Larry for wisdom.

Did Larry ever say anything that memorable?

[ontor pertawst]

Bwhahahah! My favorite is the immortal "hey! This looks like a kid's game!"

We now return to the condemnation and dome porn in progress.

[SMiLE Brian]

Well he is a part of an organization that charges 2500 dollars for basic stress relief concepts. Plus gives out the same mantras to thousands of people. TM is a cult that nearly derailed the BBs in the 1970s, funny how "crazy" BW doesnt follow it.

Mike practises TM, he's not part of the controlling organisation. Yes, like pretty much every organised religion, there's an element of soaking and misleading the adherents but... supposing I was a practising Roman Catholic (I'm not, but for the purposes of illustration...): would that make me answerable for the decades of sexual abuse inflicted by RC priests on the children in their spiritual care ? By your logic yes: I practise the religion, ergo I am responsible. To return to my original question: your source for Mike personally chatging the amounts you've stated here, please.

BTW, I think you'll find it was 1968 when TM adversely affected the band's financial position... and if we're going to apportion blame fairly, it was Dennis who first persuaded the others to meet with Maharishi. 

Is Mike definitely not part of the controlling organization? He certainly likes to promote it in every single concert/interview.

plus Mike is running all those high dollar events with David Lynch. It would take a fool not to see Mike is in the top ranks of TM since he has been obsessed with it since the 1960s. Mike seems to enjoy promoting it  in song and dance as a senior elder .

[Andrew G. Doe]

Well he is a part of an organization that charges 2500 dollars for basic stress relief concepts. Plus gives out the same mantras to thousands of people. TM is a cult that nearly derailed the BBs in the 1970s, funny how "crazy" BW doesnt follow it.

Mike practises TM, he's not part of the controlling organisation. Yes, like pretty much every organised religion, there's an element of soaking and misleading the adherents but... supposing I was a practising Roman Catholic (I'm not, but for the purposes of illustration...): would that make me answerable for the decades of sexual abuse inflicted by RC priests on the children in their spiritual care ? By your logic yes: I practise the religion, ergo I am responsible. To return to my original question: your source for Mike personally chatging the amounts you've stated here, please.

BTW, I think you'll find it was 1968 when TM adversely affected the band's financial position... and if we're going to apportion blame fairly, it was Dennis who first persuaded the others to meet with Maharishi. 

Is Mike definitely not part of the controlling organization? He certainly likes to promote it in every single concert/interview.

I have friends who are intensely religious, and speak of their faith as often as possible... but none of them are the Pope or the Archbishop of Canterbury.

[drbeachboy]

Hey, TM might hit your pocket at the outset, but from my experience organized religion hits your wallet and bank accounts throughout your whole lifetime. $900 sounds like a bargain to me.

[ontor pertawst]

That's just the introductory course!

[bgas]

I guess you don't get levitation lessons for the introductory price?

[drbeachboy]

I wonder what they charge to learn to levitate and fly across the room? That must be worth more than a few Franklins.

[SMiLE Brian]

Holy sh*t, Mike Love can fly!

[Andrew G. Doe]

plus Mike is running all those high dollar events with David Lynch. It would take a fool not to see Mike is in the top ranks of TM since he has been obsessed with it since the 1960s. Mike seems to enjoy promoting it  in song and dance as a senior elder .

Again, a source for this as yet unproved claim ? "All these" events ? I recall one or two, a few years ago. Macca & Ringo turned up too, so by your logic they're in on the scam too. Clint Eastwood and Howard Stern also.

Seriously, it would take a fool not to see your claims as nothing less than an hilariously inept attempt at advanced Mike-bashing. Sad and, in truth, really rather pathetic.

[bgas]

plus Mike is running all those high dollar events with David Lynch. It would take a fool not to see Mike is in the top ranks of TM since he has been obsessed with it since the 1960s. Mike seems to enjoy promoting it  in song and dance as a senior elder .

Again, a source for this as yet unproved claim ? "All these" events ? I recall one or two, a few years ago. Macca & Ringo turned up too, so by your logic they're in on the scam too. Clint Eastwood and Howard Stern also.

Seriously, it would take a fool not to see your claims as nothing less than an hilariously inept attempt at advanced Mike-bashing. Sad and, in truth, really rather pathetic.

 Even if it is, it fits right into the general tone of this board, so why quibble that it's wrong and pathetic even if it is?  Mike has certainly endured worse he can take it and still be happy

[Mendota Heights]

Macca & Ringo turned up too, so by your logic they're in on the scam too. Clint Eastwood and Howard Stern also.

...or appeal to non-authorities.

[wantsomecorn]

plus Mike is running all those high dollar events with David Lynch. It would take a fool not to see Mike is in the top ranks of TM since he has been obsessed with it since the 1960s. Mike seems to enjoy promoting it  in song and dance as a senior elder .

Again, a source for this as yet unproved claim ? "All these" events ? I recall one or two, a few years ago. Macca & Ringo turned up too, so by your logic they're in on the scam too. Clint Eastwood and Howard Stern also.

Seriously, it would take a fool not to see your claims as nothing less than an hilariously inept attempt at advanced Mike-bashing. Sad and, in truth, really rather pathetic.

Has Mike really been involved with David Lynch that much? I've always thought that was more of Al's thing.

[SMiLE Brian]

plus Mike is running all those high dollar events with David Lynch. It would take a fool not to see Mike is in the top ranks of TM since he has been obsessed with it since the 1960s. Mike seems to enjoy promoting it  in song and dance as a senior elder .

Again, a source for this as yet unproved claim ? "All these" events ? I recall one or two, a few years ago. Macca & Ringo turned up too, so by your logic they're in on the scam too. Clint Eastwood and Howard Stern also.

Seriously, it would take a fool not to see your claims as nothing less than an hilariously inept attempt at advanced Mike-bashing. Sad and, in truth, really rather pathetic.

you could use some TM in your life.