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« Reply #1025 on: March 11, 2011, 07:28:34 PM »

Smile's getting released!

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« Reply #1026 on: March 11, 2011, 07:30:14 PM »

Does this mean Warner Bros. will give back the $50,000?
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« Reply #1027 on: March 11, 2011, 07:42:41 PM »

"there are things that we have discovered that the bootleggers missed."
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I can't wait for this set to be released!

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« Reply #1028 on: March 11, 2011, 07:54:34 PM »

I'm dying to see if "Do You Like Worms" actually has Beach Boy vocals.  Plus.... I hope we get to hear those mystery songs that haven't been bootlegged (like "Indian Summer").
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« Reply #1029 on: March 11, 2011, 08:00:16 PM »

i hope they put it together in a way that it makes the best album they can.  don't try and do it to like what a piece of paper in the 60s read. 
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« Reply #1030 on: March 11, 2011, 08:13:27 PM »

I'm dying to see if "Do You Like Worms" actually has Beach Boy vocals.  Plus.... I hope we get to hear those mystery songs that haven't been bootlegged (like "Indian Summer").

What is Indian Summer?
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« Reply #1031 on: March 11, 2011, 08:28:51 PM »

I'm dying to see if "Do You Like Worms" actually has Beach Boy vocals.  Plus.... I hope we get to hear those mystery songs that haven't been bootlegged (like "Indian Summer").

What is Indian Summer?

From Wiki: 
>> Indian summer is a meteorological phenomenon that occurs in November or later, in the Northern Hemisphere. It is characterized by a period of sunny, warm weather, after the leaves have turned or fallen and there is no snow cover on the ground. <<

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« Reply #1032 on: March 11, 2011, 08:29:58 PM »

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« Reply #1033 on: March 11, 2011, 08:38:39 PM »

Thanks for the link to the interview with Mark Linett....I'm hoping that one of the reasons that the release date isn't yet set is that they have some reasonable confidence they still can reel in some missing tapes (sorry for unintentional pun).
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« Reply #1034 on: March 11, 2011, 09:09:27 PM »

"there are things that we have discovered that the bootleggers missed."
- Mark Linett


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« Reply #1035 on: March 11, 2011, 10:25:35 PM »

I tell you what, I feel good now about SMILE being vindicated, that is, in a prepared official statement.  I went on the blueboard last month, and it seemed like I was fighting tooth & nail with some of the members about my interview with Al being false or poorly researched.  Just hope they can get it out soon.

Jeremy, congrats on being the guy who officially broke the Smile news to the world, in your interview with Al, published back on Feb. 3rd.  Then Al came out with a clumsy retraction, but there were many of us on this board who knew the info in your article was correct and that the Smile Sessions would come out later this year.  As I posted in this thread on Feb 16, and I'll say it again ...

Getting back to the forthcoming release of Smile - gotta agree that Al had spoken too soon, and thus issued his rather vague backtracking statement.
I'm still looking forward to enjoying an official release of The Smile Sessions later this year.
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« Reply #1036 on: March 11, 2011, 10:44:35 PM »

Let's hear it for Mr. ALAN JARDINE!

Great that there seems to be material in the vaults the bootleggers missed.
The way they want to release it sounds really exciting with the right people behind it. It sure will be GREAT!
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« Reply #1037 on: March 11, 2011, 11:39:18 PM »

Indeed, the 'things the bootlegger's missed' part is very exciting. I mean, even if ti's just a different backing track of a song we know well, that's exciting sh*t. Think of all the different colors it will bring to the palette.
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« Reply #1038 on: March 12, 2011, 12:22:12 AM »

Let's hear it for Mr. ALAN JARDINE!

Great that there seems to be material in the vaults the bootleggers missed.
The way they want to release it sounds really exciting with the right people behind it. It sure will be GREAT!


"Now that the project has the green light, we think we have a better opportunity to make sure there is nothing else out there that we haven't been able to locate because the project has never come to fruition. So one of the objects here is to make sure that everything that still exists can be a part of this project". That's what we all want to hear! AMAZING DAY!!!!!
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« Reply #1039 on: March 12, 2011, 12:24:10 AM »

What set Steve Hoffman off?  Anyone willing to share the 'Reader's Digest' version of what transpired? 

Basically, he 'explained' why he'd said the project wasn't happening - because he'd been told to by Capitol, otherwise they'd pull the plug because fans were pestering them (seriously) - and most of the posters in the thread found that less than believable. I put forward, politely, my understanding of events, which centered on Alan's clanger and retraction. I guess some folk don't like to be contradicted.

That's funny stuff, indeed! Thanks for the explanation.  
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« Reply #1040 on: March 12, 2011, 12:27:14 AM »

I tell you what, I feel good now about SMILE being vindicated, that is, in a prepared official statement.  I went on the blueboard last month, and it seemed like I was fighting tooth & nail with some of the members about my interview with Al being false or poorly researched.  Just hope they can get it out soon.

Would SMILE have a chance of charting on the Billboard 200?  Maybe this is completely wrong, but I'm thinking with it being an archival release, it would have to make a specific chart.

37 pages here before a official announcement! We had the faith. Wink

Some of us had faith rather earlier than that.  Wink
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« Reply #1041 on: March 12, 2011, 12:28:22 AM »

I'm dying to see if "Do You Like Worms" actually has Beach Boy vocals.  Plus.... I hope we get to hear those mystery songs that haven't been bootlegged (like "Indian Summer").

What is Indian Summer?

I think someone's talking about the "Indian Wisdom/Doves Of Peace" instrumental... which isn't a Smile track at all, rather a Friends out-take.
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« Reply #1042 on: March 12, 2011, 02:56:06 AM »

What set Steve Hoffman off?  Anyone willing to share the 'Reader's Digest' version of what transpired?  

Basically, he 'explained' why he'd said the project wasn't happening - because he'd been told to by Capitol, otherwise they'd pull the plug because fans were pestering them (seriously) - and most of the posters in the thread found that less than believable. I put forward, politely, my understanding of events, which centered on Alan's clanger and retraction. I guess some folk don't like to be contradicted.

That's funny stuff, indeed! Thanks for the explanation.  

Just for historical accuracy and completeness, here's what was posted by SH (seperate posts):

I was requested to squash this weeks ago. I did what they asked for the sake of the project. It has a long way to go. Long way. Don't be looking for this any time soon. At least we are allowed to mention it now.

And to those of you who were pestering Capitol with inquiries (which precipitated the squashing request, to my understanding): Come on...That stuff never helps anyone...Stick to forums like this, where you can pontificate to your heart's content.

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Steve, I have no problem with you doing this, but fessing up to it will make us question your future 'statements'....maybe you should have just said that you were wrong.


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Fair point. But you people put the project in serious jeopardy. Next time should I just say nothing and let you sink it?

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With all due respect, I find that hard to believe. They were going to cancel the entire project because some nerds on an audiophile message board found out about it early and were calling about it? Really???


That's what I was told. A few souls were begging me so I did it. Move on and leave the people alone to get this release out while we still have breath in our bods. I'm not happy about it but sometimes you have to be a tool for a good cause. Anything Beatles or Beach Boys is a good cause for me.

Yes, the consternation about that leak was great and even I was feeling the pressure. You have an almost finished project (um... though it had "a long way to go" in the initial post ?) not yet heard by the people who have to approve it (and they are many) vs. the uncaring execs who are now so young they just vaguely know who the Beach Boys even are. We are like flies to them buzzing around. They would like to swat us. This plus the publicists having their big secret story deflated by a bunch of Internet fan boys (again, us). Then, you have my butt being torn a new one at the Beatles/Beach Boys concert movie thingie a few weeks ago like I'm to blame for what you guys post here, the Beach Boys bootlegs, etc.

Next time, I'm going on vacation.

Of course, the basic flaw in all this is that it wasn't "a bunch of Internet fan boys" who started off all this, but some guy called Alan Charles Jardine.  Grin

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« Reply #1043 on: March 12, 2011, 05:05:20 AM »

Fantastic news !!


Now the question: Will they tour behind the album ?  Cheesy


The Beach Boys most anticipated album and 40 years late. Going by the bands history? A bunt, although a 'Beach Boys SMiLE Live' would be a home run!



Seriously though, they (together or each in their group) probably have to put some songs from Smile in the setlist, especially if it sells as well as everyone hopes. Brian and his guys know the stuff and could probably do anything, even the stuff that wasn't on BWPS. I guess Mike's guys would use "Heroes&Villains" maybe as the Cantina-version. Maybe they also use "Vegetables" (with Al, who I suppose will be part of the band again, singing lead on both). Can't see them doing "Cabin essence" though for example.
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« Reply #1044 on: March 12, 2011, 10:43:27 AM »

If this point has already been made, I apologize. Hoffman repeatedly and smugly denied that SMiLE was being released in the earlier deleted SMiLE thread. Yes, there was a thread 30 or 40 pages or so long that he put in the corn field. He insinuated several times that he had the "inside track" on what was really happening, and that it simply was not being released. He also tried to make anyone who persisted on discussing it feel like a moron.

Then when it became apparent the the release was indeed happening, he started back-tracking with the lame explanations mentioned above. When his forum members called him on it, he had two threads deleted and started his new, happy sanitized thread, which has been heavily pruned already. He is trying to somehow make this release announcement HIS announcement, although in fact he has nothing to do with it. He is seething over not being involved, and over the huge amount of attention the SMiLE project is generating.

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« Reply #1045 on: March 12, 2011, 10:43:39 AM »

" sometimes you have to be a tool …"

Was there ever a truer word?
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« Reply #1046 on: March 12, 2011, 12:06:21 PM »

There's no exception to the rule. 

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« Reply #1047 on: March 12, 2011, 12:42:37 PM »


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With all due respect, I find that hard to believe. They were going to cancel the entire project because some nerds on an audiophile message board found out about it early and were calling about it? Really???


Oh, that makes total sense. Whenever customers beg me to get highly anticipated project work done so they can pay me for it, I tell them to calm down or I will cancel the entire project. That must be why the recording industry is having such a great run lately: canceling projects if fans are too enthusiastic for them. Makes total sense.

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« Reply #1048 on: March 12, 2011, 01:46:50 PM »

Just had a DUH ! moment - Hoffman said he was asked by Capitol to squash the rumours on his board. Funny how Capitol never asked any of the other BB MB mods to do the same.
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« Reply #1049 on: March 12, 2011, 02:23:54 PM »

With companies specifically using "viral" web marketing campaigns directed solely toward spreading the word via internet boards, networking sites, and whatnot, I'd think they'd want the buzz getting around the net to generate excitement, rather than trying to quash the very marketing tool companies want to exploit.

Of course they could always send out postcards to the Beach Boys fan club... Smiley
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