New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE'

[Runaways]

With the benefit of hindsight I agree but at the time it would have been the right thing to do. BWPS was sold as the real finally completed deal, and the only reason Frank's artwork wasn't used was, I understand, more a financial consideration than an artistic one.

Yes, I agree that it's more appropriate to this release (if this release happens). In 2004, however, we were also assured that the release of a BBs SMILE was an "over my dead body" matter.

I hope Frank gets his due this time around and is appropriately rewarded!  That album cover is the most iconic in RnR mythology!

i don't think so.  I've always thought they made the right call.  Just like the title said, it was brian wilson PRESENTING smile.  They would have had to change the art for one thing, make it say brian wilson.  Doesn't matter if it was about financial reasons either.  It would not have been right. 

I know you just want him to get his due, but putting that original art on bwps would have been a misrepresentation.  And i doubt he'd want that. 

[PhilCohen]

Let's hope that the knowledge that such a project is on the way will cause anyone hoarding lost materials to come forward, whether to return the material or sell it to Capitol and/or Brother.

[punkinhead]

If this SMiLE thing really comes out, I hope that "Air Dada" will be part of it.
Because I'm almost convinced that the "Love To Say Dada" sessions were recorded for "The Elements".
I just makes sense.
Brian stated in the late 70's that "Air" was an unfinished piano piece. He remembered "All Day".
"All Day" was recorded later with the Wrecking Crew, flutes used as birds, the often forgotten "Air Dada".
"Love To Say Dada" with the same groove represents water.
"Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" fire and "Fall Breaks", again with the same feel, earth.
The so called Jasper theory.
And if this SMiLE-announcement was just some kind of promo gag from Al, he'll be another head shorter, I tell ya.

I always forget about Air Dada.
I've only heard it on a few select Smile mixes (the ones that chose to get creative!)

BTW, what and where's the facts on Air Dada?
Either in books or on this board?

[Runaways]

yeah i've never even heard of air dada?

que es??

[Jason]

"Air Da Da" is merely the second "section" of I Love To Say Da Da from a later session, re-recorded. The sessions are on Secret Smile.

[OneEar/OneEye]

With the benefit of hindsight I agree but at the time it would have been the right thing to do. BWPS was sold as the real finally completed deal, and the only reason Frank's artwork wasn't used was, I understand, more a financial consideration than an artistic one.

Yes, I agree that it's more appropriate to this release (if this release happens). In 2004, however, we were also assured that the release of a BBs SMILE was an "over my dead body" matter.

I hope Frank gets his due this time around and is appropriately rewarded!  That album cover is the most iconic in RnR mythology!

i don't think so.  I've always thought they made the right call.  Just like the title said, it was brian wilson PRESENTING smile.  They would have had to change the art for one thing, make it say brian wilson.  Doesn't matter if it was about financial reasons either.  It would not have been right. 

I know you just want him to get his due, but putting that original art on bwps would have been a misrepresentation.  And i doubt he'd want that. 

Would have been nice if they'd had him do new artwork for BWPS though. 

[Custom Machine]

I hope they'll also offer a vinyl version. Though I'm not a part of the recent vinyl revival fad(though I've never not owned a turntable since I got my first one in 1966), it would be a thrill to own a "Smile" album cover and booklet, as originally intended & designed.

Yes, I definitely would like to see a vinyl version as well, with the full sized booklet, of course.  And I'd be really surprised if they don't offer one.

I bought the cover slick and booklet reprint years ago, but it'll be great to see Frank Holmes' original cover and booklet artwork in an official release.  Personally, I'm glad Frank Holmes artwork was not used for 2004's recording of BWPS, as it makes whole lot more sense for the original 1966-67 Beach Boys recordings/sessions, which I have optimistically assumed would ultimately be released.

Speaking of vinyl, anyone know if there are any discographies indicating the various formats in which Beach Boys recordings were released?  For example, in addition to vinyl LPs and singles,  back in the pre-cassette Smile era, Beach Boys  material also saw release on 4 track, 8 track, and reel to reel.  Plus I seem to recall there may have been at least one PlayTape from that era containing perhaps two to four BB songs.

[Runaways]

I'd be all over a vinyl version.  Of course this would be the one cd version, assuming that would happen.  i really hope it does. 

[juggler]

New tidbit from the source that broke this story...

Archivist Alan Boyd and recording engineer Mark Linett are in a California studio assembling the project.  In an attempt to interview Boyd, Capitol Records replied that they were not comfortable in giving out any additional details at this time.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

[A Million Units In Jan!]

New tidbit from the source that broke this story...

Archivist Alan Boyd and recording engineer Mark Linett are in a California studio assembling the project.  In an attempt to interview Boyd, Capitol Records replied that they were not comfortable in giving out any additional details at this time.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

I've tried to maintain a steady head about all of this, but if Capitol Records was asked about it, and they didn't shoot it down, doesn't that say something? CRAP!

[Andrew G. Doe]

New tidbit from the source that broke this story...

Archivist Alan Boyd and recording engineer Mark Linett are in a California studio assembling the project.  In an attempt to interview Boyd, Capitol Records replied that they were not comfortable in giving out any additional details at this time.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

I've tried to maintain a steady head about all of this, but if Capitol Records was asked about it, and they didn't shoot it down, doesn't that say something? CRAP!

Not only did they not shoot it down, but using the phrase "additional details" they have tacitly confirmed that what Alan said is accurate.

[A Million Units In Jan!]

New tidbit from the source that broke this story...

Archivist Alan Boyd and recording engineer Mark Linett are in a California studio assembling the project.  In an attempt to interview Boyd, Capitol Records replied that they were not comfortable in giving out any additional details at this time.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

I've tried to maintain a steady head about all of this, but if Capitol Records was asked about it, and they didn't shoot it down, doesn't that say something? CRAP!

Not only did they not shoot it down, but using the phrase "additional details" they have tacitly confirmed that what Alan said is accurate.

You forgot some sort of excited Smiley face. We all know you need to work on that 

 

[Andrew G. Doe]

New tidbit from the source that broke this story...

Archivist Alan Boyd and recording engineer Mark Linett are in a California studio assembling the project.  In an attempt to interview Boyd, Capitol Records replied that they were not comfortable in giving out any additional details at this time.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

I've tried to maintain a steady head about all of this, but if Capitol Records was asked about it, and they didn't shoot it down, doesn't that say something? CRAP!

Not only did they not shoot it down, but using the phrase "additional details" they have tacitly confirmed that what Alan said is accurate.

You forgot some sort of excited Smiley face. We all know you need to work on that 

 

Like this ?   

[buddhahat]

New tidbit from the source that broke this story...

Archivist Alan Boyd and recording engineer Mark Linett are in a California studio assembling the project.  In an attempt to interview Boyd, Capitol Records replied that they were not comfortable in giving out any additional details at this time.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

I've tried to maintain a steady head about all of this, but if Capitol Records was asked about it, and they didn't shoot it down, doesn't that say something? CRAP!

Not only did they not shoot it down, but using the phrase "additional details" they have tacitly confirmed that what Alan said is accurate.

Oh mercy, I'm getting unhealthily excited about all this, and am setting myself up for a major disappointment I fear.

Alan Boyd and Mark Linnet's involvement does sound promising - like this is something more viable than Al jumping the gun. Maybe explains why Alan Boyd has been so responsive, and on it in terms of his recall, during several fairly recent discussions re: Heroes & Villains Pt 2 and what was found in what box. Maybe he's always like that but would make sense if he has been doing fresh trawls of the Smile material.

If this SMiLE thing really comes out, I hope that "Air Dada" will be part of it.
Because I'm almost convinced that the "Love To Say Dada" sessions were recorded for "The Elements".
I just makes sense.
Brian stated in the late 70's that "Air" was an unfinished piano piece. He remembered "All Day".
"All Day" was recorded later with the Wrecking Crew, flutes used as birds, the often forgotten "Air Dada".
"Love To Say Dada" with the same groove represents water.
"Mrs. O'Leary's Cow" fire and "Fall Breaks", again with the same feel, earth.
The so called Jasper theory.
And if this SMiLE-announcement was just some kind of promo gag from Al, he'll be another head shorter, I tell ya.

I love Air Da Da - one of my favourite Smile pieces.

I'm not entirely sold on it being air, or Da da being water for that matter, although your solution is a perfect one. What confuses me is why Love to say Dada has an apparent 3rd section (they start to lead into a piano section that quickly trails off - on Secret Smile I think)? Why record 3 sections to a song that was supposed to be part of a suite - seems more like a self contained song to me. But then Vegetables was supposedly part of the Elements too.

Also doesn't Air Da da come from a Heroes reel and therefore belong with that song?

Where's Alan Boyd when you need him, eh? .... Oh ... I forgot  

[buddhahat]

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[Runaways]

oh mah looooorrrdd.

glad linett is on this.  he always makes the songs sound new again. 

[A Million Units In Jan!]

New tidbit from the source that broke this story...

Archivist Alan Boyd and recording engineer Mark Linett are in a California studio assembling the project.  In an attempt to interview Boyd, Capitol Records replied that they were not comfortable in giving out any additional details at this time.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

I've tried to maintain a steady head about all of this, but if Capitol Records was asked about it, and they didn't shoot it down, doesn't that say something? CRAP!

Not only did they not shoot it down, but using the phrase "additional details" they have tacitly confirmed that what Alan said is accurate.

You forgot some sort of excited Smiley face. We all know you need to work on that 

 

Like this ?   

That's it!

[gsmile]

glad linett is on this.  he always makes the songs sound new again. 

Please Mark, no gross digital reverb on this...PLEASE!

[Mikie]

And, like I’ve said on countless threads on two message boards since they started up. I wish for a Smile sessions box the same size as the Pet Sounds box. Three or four discs with a nice booklet or two. Would like stereo mixes like the SOT set but mono would be fine - as Brian intended. The Sea Of Tunes releases were broken up as a box and a single CD, but I'd like to see it all contained in one box. Hope Capitol promotes the hell out of it so the masses can hear what we've been hearing all these years.

For the Smile-o-Philes here:

This may have been covered somewhere else already, but what do we know that exists that has NOT been included on bootlegs since 1978? A three minute version of "Child Is Father To The Man"? Or the same with vocals? Is there stuff that has been heard that has not appeared on the countless bootlegs over the years? Are the Durrie Parks acetates for real (been confirmed) or is that an urban myth? How about the Al Jardine "Heroes & Villains" acetate? Is that any different than what we've already heard?

I remember Dom Priore bringing a tape of the "Cantina" sction to the Oakland BB convention in the early 80's and being blown away by it. Play it again, play it again! That was like a revelation. I'd read about it previously but never heard it until then.  Then  it eventually came out as a bonus track on the Capitol Smiley 2-fer.

And some here have heard the SMiLE “Linett mixes” from around 1988, I presume?  Of course we have even better technology today; possibly even better than 24 bit, though I think Mark probably scrapped those mixes and started over. Maybe the mixing/mastering has already been undertaken for this new project. So what did you guys think of Linett’s Smile mixes that were circulating for awhile? Is it OK to bring it up here or please forgive me if that’s suppose to be hush hush.

[jeremylr]

Al mentioned the release of SMILE as an afterthought, to be honest.  We talked for about 40 minutes, mainly about "Postcard," and when he said he had to go, I brought up the 50th anniversary.  After talking about The Grammys, I asked him about all the unreleased material just sitting in a vault and if any of it might come out this year.  

With about 90 seconds left in the interview, Al just said, "Smile's coming out this summer."  I stopped for a few seconds, and I said, "Al, are you positive?"  He said he was.  I wouldn't have printed that if I didn't believe it to be true.  But I understand the 40+ years of the band telling folks it was coming out soon.  I just haven't been around as long to hear all the promises, I suppose.

He really came across as a down-to-earth guy, very friendly, and I'm glad he gave me that major scoop.  I sat on the interview for about 2.5 weeks; Al sent me some follow-up answers last Monday, including his admission that he didn't have any other details on SMILE.

I also sent him & his team the transcribed interview as a courtesy, so they knew what was going to be said, except for my introduction.  Alan Boyd also read it before it went to press; unfortunately, as you know, Capitol didn't want him to divulge any details.  

No one said I shouldn't publish the news about SMILE.  Just wanted to get that out there.  Maybe they thought I shouldn't, but they didn't say no.  Who knows, maybe the BB are asking Al about that interview as we speak.

Last night I published a stand-alone article on SMILE.  I'm surprised no one hasn't noticed the opening promo tag line, as well as the person I thank at the end.  You could say he was a special editor, but more importantly, he made sure everything was correct, and if I left out an important detail, he steered me in the correct direction.  So thanks, Andrew.

http://www.examiner.com/pop-culture-in-national/the-beach-boys-set-to-release-smile-the-greatest-lost-masterpiece-of-all-time

I've been a Smiley Smiler for several years now; I supposed I was waiting a bit to see if anyone was gonna put two and two together.  Also, I was probably afraid the interview might get torn to shreds on here, but it seems like most people got a kick out of it.  Here's hoping more BB interviews are down the line.

[armona]

Wow. WOW!

[jeremylr]

Forgot to mention this, but how did I get the interview with Al.......well, it was almost a year in the making.  Before Postcard came out, I was put in touch with David Carr, who was handling Al's public relations.  Carr seemed interested at the time, said he would send me a copy of Postcard to review, and would put me in touch with Al.  Well, that never happened.

Now, moving onto mid January.  Al must have a new pr guy; I was put in touch with Spud who plays in the band Drifting Sand; and one day later, I was told, "Hey, if you wanna talk with Al, we can do it right now."  I contacted them as a lark to be honest; I knew how well my first attempt panned out.  I stammered and said, well, if we can postpone the interview for another day, I can get my questions together.  Luckily for me, I was kinda, sorta ready that next day, and I got to talk with Al.  And that's my first BB experience.  Still haven't seen any of them in concert.

[armona]

And that's my first BB experience.

If this indeed happens, that's quite an experience  

[Mr. Cohen]

If Smile gets released this summer, we're gonna feel like Sam Flynn does when enters the grid in Tron.

[petsite]

According to Alan Jardine:

Are there plans for a new Beach Boys archival project?

Capitol Records plans to issue a Beach Boys version of Smile sometime this summer to begin the celebration of The Beach Boys’ anniversary.  Smile is the Holy Grail for Beach Boys’ fans, so it will be good.   

I don’t have many details on it, although we didn't do any new recording. I'm happy to see it finally come out.  Brian’s changed his mind about releasing the material, but it was inevitable, wasn’t it? (Al chuckles). 

We shall see...............