Al just announced a reunion show?!

[Pretty Funky]

This thread is heading towards a subject that has been covered many times before here. How about we discuss this 'Reunion Lite' for what it is. Al playing with Mikes band for 20 minutes. Maybe this will start the 50th and it will build from there.

Brian should come for the birthday cake IMO.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

I'm guessing this will be their set:

1. Help me Rhonda
2. Lady Lynda
3. Sumahama
4. Looking At Tomorrow
5, Disney Girls
6. Pitter Patter
7. Fun Fun Fun! 

[Mikie]

I'm not saying David should be there at the exclusion of Bruce or Al. Its cool they are getting together. Not cool that David wasn't asked. I know he'd go if he was asked, and he'd play the guitar parts to those songs as well or better than anybody who will be there. Sorry, call me crazy, but I do prefer to hear the guys who were actually on the hit recordings. I think its a spiritual thing, and it makes it more fun. You can spin it all you want, but there is no good reason to leave him out.

I agree 100% with Jon. For instance, I watched Dave play the leads to 409 and Shut Down TO THE NOTE the same as the records. To me, it's a no-brainer that he be on stage with Mike & Bruce for regular shows and upcoming reunion shows if they materialize. The guy can sing pretty damn good, too!

[Mikie]

Fo sho!   

[Jon Stebbins]

I love David as much as any of us, but he DID quit the Beach Boys after all, right?

Have any of you ever quit a band? I have and can tell you, it causes some problems for situations such as this.

Yeah but BB's and quitting are part of the routine.  Al quit the band in '62, he came back in '63. Bruce quit the band in '72, he came back '78. David quit the band in '63, he was asked back in '71 but declined, and came back in '97. He quit again in '99, and he came back and played the '08 tour of the British Isles as a special guest. Brian quit, sort of, came back, sort of, quit again...and stuff...Carl quit and came back, Dennis, out and back in a couple of times. I think Mike is the ONLY Beach Boy who never quit (or was never kicked out) right? Why does David having quit stand out in your mind?

[Carrie Marks]

Erik, also keep in mind, when David quit in 1999 it was because he was dying of hepatitis C and was given 6 months to a year to live.  The fact he's even alive 11 years later, never mind healthy and still playing the hell out the guitar is a miracle.  So, I'm not sure its totally fair to hold his current status as 'former' Beach Boy against him considering the alternative to him leaving the road in the late 90's would have been a suicide mission.

Back to Al, though...its great he will be playing with Mike again, and finger's crossed there will be an opportunity for all 5 of them to play together sometime in the not too distant future!

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Erik, also keep in mind, when David quit in 1999 it was because he was dying of hepatitis C and was given 6 months to a year to live.  The fact he's even alive 11 years later, never mind healthy and still playing the hell out the guitar is a miracle.  So, I'm not sure its totally fair to hold his current status as 'former' Beach Boy against him considering the alternative to him leaving the road in the late 90's would have been a suicide mission.

Back to Al, though...its great he will be playing with Mike again, and finger's crossed there will be an opportunity for all 5 of them to play together sometime in the not too distant future!

I just mean because he quit and was gone for so long!

My view on David is, it's one of the major tragedies in the Beach Boys saga that David didn't stay with the band. I think if he had, the Beach Boys would've stayed more of a band band, David probably would have been all over  those records in the mid/late 60's 70's onward and the two guitar attack would have remained a core part of their sound. But then again, I would think that because my all-time favorite stuff is their first few albums, and David's guitar is a huge part of those albums.

[Custom Machine]

I predict a very oldies heavy setlist...It'll be interesting to see how many songs they do that Al or Bruce were not involved in the orig. recording. Surfer Girl, Little Deuce Coupe, Surfin USA, Surfin Safari, etc...and apparently the guy who WAS on those songs was not invited. Not cool if you ask me.

Still; Al and Bruce have sung those same songs live hundreds of times more than Dave  
After all, they're not doing the original recordings, they're performing them live.  

I'm not saying David should be there at the exclusion of Bruce or Al. Its cool they are getting together. Not cool that David wasn't asked. I know he'd go if he was asked, and he'd play the guitar parts to those songs as well or better than anybody who will be there. Sorry, call me crazy, but I do prefer to hear the guys who were actually on the hit recordings. I think its a spiritual thing, and it makes it more fun. You can spin it all you want, but there is no good reason to leave him out.

Actually, there is a good reason to leave David out, but it's the same reason why Brian, if he was "officially invited", should not appear.  

Why??  Although this performance is significant in Beach Boys history, it should not signify the official reunion of the surviving members.  If it did, any subsequent reunion performances would be significantly diluted in terms of publicity, as it would be impossible to promote a future performance as "the reunion of the Beach Boys, including Brian Wislon."

Yeah, I'd like to see David there, and obviously to a greater extent, Brian, but it doesn't make sense in that this upcoming performance should be the official first 40th anniversary reunion show.  The PR possibilities are just not there.  But, that being said, the BBs have such a dumbass history of failing to understand public relations and how come across as being hip (related, in much more than satirical terms, to "How to Speak Hip" (or is it "How to Speak Hip-Hop?"  Oops, as Mike Love said 42 years ago, "Lost my head!" -- and if you don't get that one, you really don't understand the dynamic behind The Beach Boys as a group) -  but I digress).

The biggest downside to Al's post about him performing with Mike and Bruce, and that Brian has been invited, but may not show up, is that it seems to indicate that the Beach Boys still can't come up with a cohesive plan and get it all together.  They are Windows rather than Mac.  What does that mean?  It means that the BBs and their publicity machine still don't understand how to present themselves and their incredible musical accomplishments to the media and the public.  It's a no-brainer (or is it a "no-Brianer?) that Brian should not be at the Reagan tribute performance.  The big question is, is anybody in the BB organization smart enough, with enough control, (if that is, in fact, possible in BB land), to understand how a 40th anniv BB reunion should be rolled out in 2011 and 2012?

The Rolling Stones are already talking about a 2012 tour for their 40th anniversary. Can the BBs get it together and come across as cool as the Rolling Stones?  History tells us that they can do it only with some significant cooperation and planning.  And who knows, maybe that's what they're up to now.  

In any event, it's great that Al is reuniting with Mike and Bruce.  Hope the guys are not so clueless that they haven't already planned for the official reunion including Brian and Dave.  And if they haven't, they need to get off their butts and come up with a plan now.

[Custom Machine]

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[Autotune]

I thought David did not want to play alongside Mike after some disgusting event a few years back.

Anyways... the Beach Boys that I love include Al Jardine in the vocal blend.

[Carrie Marks]

I thought David did not want to play alongside Mike after some disgusting event a few years back.

Perhaps the elusiveness surrounding my explanation as to why David was no longer sitting in during local shows (something fans in the NY/ NJ / CT area came to expect for a few years there) has caused some to fill-in the blanks based around my partial statement that ultimately, David's feelings had been hurt.  But, time heals and David doesn't hold grudges...and hopefully there is no further cause for him to be treated with anything less than respect by the organization.  He deserves that! So, I will repeat what I've said multiple times since then: there is a big difference between him participating in a reunion-related event with all the surviving Beach Boys and being a part-time (unpaid) special guest at Mike's east coast shows.

Now, like TheOtherAnonymous said, this thread is about CURRENT plans for Saturday, not to re-hash what happened 2 years ago.  I will be playing with my Ronald Reagan paper dolls in honor of his 100th birthday!  What will you be doing?  Watching the live webcast? 

[Roger Ryan]

...The big question is, is anybody in the BB organization smart enough, with enough control, (if that is, in fact, possible in BB land), to understand how a 40th anniv BB reunion should be rolled out in 2011 and 2012?...

...The Rolling Stones are already talking about a 2012 tour for their 40th anniversary....

Both the Beach Boys and The Rolling Stones are approaching their 50th anniversary. A bit daunting, actually, as I got started close to fifty years ago as well!

[Emdeeh]

Beach Boys and Rolling Stones celebrating their respective 50ths -- Blondie Chaplin should have no shortage of work in 2012!  

[Jon Stebbins]

Beach Boys and Rolling Stones celebrating their respective 50ths -- Blondie Chaplin should have no shortage of work in 2012!  

Blondie just played a great solo gig in NYC and reportedly gave props to Dennis Wilson for being "soulful" during his set.

[Custom Machine]

...The big question is, is anybody in the BB organization smart enough, with enough control, (if that is, in fact, possible in BB land), to understand how a 40th anniv BB reunion should be rolled out in 2011 and 2012?...

...The Rolling Stones are already talking about a 2012 tour for their 40th anniversary....

Both the Beach Boys and The Rolling Stones are approaching their 50th anniversary. A bit daunting, actually, as I got started close to fifty years ago as well!

You are absolutely correct, it's the upcoming 50th anniversary of both bands.  In my rambling post above I incorrectly stated it was the 40th.  This error was most likely a result of the fact that it was late at night and I'd been enjoying some Jack Daniels, coupled with the fact that it's hard to believe it's been almost half a century since the formation of The Beach Boys and The Rolling Stones.  (In addition to blaming the chronological error on the late hour and the Jack, I am also blaming the rambling nature of my post on those two factors.)

[Christian]

Why do I have this uncomfortable feeling that Stamos is going to show at this bash ?  Crap, I hope not.

In vain!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Why do I have this uncomfortable feeling that Stamos is going to show at this bash ?  Crap, I hope not.

In vain!

I know... 

[southbay]

nevermind...

[Roger Ryan]

nevermind...

You beat me to it! Just in case folks need a link to view the concert tonight, here it is...

http://www.reaganfoundation.org/live-webcasts.aspx

[Ed Roach]

Not to malign someone who led California into some better days as our Governor, someone who had earlier in his career helped make a star out of Bonzo, went on to become President not only of the Screen Actors Guild, but of the whole-dang U.S. of A, and eventually allow my buddy Dennis a funeral normally reserved for Admirals & the like, but let's not forget how he developed such a close relationship with The Boys...  

While I was attempting to be whimsical in the above statement, initially egged on by an earlier post,
 
"Reminds me of the funniest caption IMO from the Ego Board.
Reagan...'Which one of you f****d my daughter?'
Mike....'We all did!' "

Still and all, I had second thoughts upon awaking the next day, wondering if this wasn't in poor taste - all the while knowing that the old cowboy himself would have gotten a kick out of it!

Well, this morning I was jolted awake by this recent Sarah Palin nonsense, which I was happy to see 'young' Ron Reagan quickly shoot down.  (By the way, guess he's not so young anymore, but I've known him since he was a teenager...)
"Sarah Palin casts herself in Reagan mold, blasts Obama administration"
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-palin-reagan-20110205,0,5876331.story
But his son, Ron Reagan, tells The Associated Press he doesn't see anything in common between his dad and the 2008 Republican vice presidential candidate, "Sarah Palin is a soap opera, basically. She's doing mostly what she does to make money and keep her name in the news," Reagan says.  "She is not a serious candidate for president and never has been!"

Finally, in a hopefully much more respectful mention of our President who would have turned 100 tomorrow, here are reviews of 2 documentaries that are about to air:  By Mary McNamara, Los Angeles Times Television Critic

Ronald Reagan would have been 100 years old Sunday, an observation that is slightly ridiculous — he won't be, of course, because he died in 2004. And yet, it's significant enough to have launched his son Ron's new book, "My Father at 100," and two new documentaries that examine the legend of both the president and his first lady.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-reagans-20110205,0,856687.story
 

[Myk Luhv]

I can't wait for the day that Reagan is not held up as some kind of paragon of 'good President'. He was very obviously not, jeez.

[Runaways]

I can't wait for the day that Reagan is not held up as some kind of paragon of 'good President'. He was very obviously not, jeez.

or very obviously not is he's seen like that.

i think you can only judge presidents relative to other ones.

[Myk Luhv]

And even if you do that, Reagan was still a horrible President. I mean, like most politicians they all did some stuff that makes me hesitant to really like any of them but... Reagan is especially awful.

[Rocker]

Ronald Reagan ? The actor ?

[shelter]

Ronald Reagan ? The actor ?

"Then who's vice-president? Jerry Lewis?"