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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2010, 07:33:50 AM »

Little Pad, This Whole World, Steamboat, Let Us Go On This Way.

Dude, you poached my avatar . . .
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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2010, 09:37:42 AM »

Bits of genius:

"This Whole World" - One of my top ten favorite Beach Boy songs.

"At My Window" - This song has grown on me through the years.  The whispered "Poof" and "Window" are inspired.

"Cool, Cool, Water" - This song evokes a peaceful feeling.  It is more a meditation than a song.

"'Til I Die" - The best lyric lyric Brian ever wrote matched to the music perfectly.  It is a downer but it is brillant.

"All This is That" - This is perhaps the most blissful song in pop/rock history.  It is amazing that there is no Brian involvement.

From Mount Vernon and Fairway Part 6 Radio Kingdom - The fragment heard at 2:22 through 2:43  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O-a-ep3-uA&feature=related ).  too bad there was never a full song developed from that.

"I'll Bet He's Nice - Carl's vocal from 1:17-1:39 and the tag - As much as I do not appreciate the use of synths this really works.
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2010, 09:49:04 AM »

I was going to mention Mount Vernon and Fairway.  Not the narratives, but the music.  All of that stuff is incredible.  I know Carl helped with that quite a bit, but how much?  Did Carl do any of the vocal arrangments?  That main synth theme is just frikkin' great (wonk wonk).
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« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2010, 09:12:54 AM »

Time To get Alone is Brian's lost treasure. As Mike Love once said, Heroes and Villains is Brian's last powerful (or something to that effect) song. Some say Smiley Smile is the end of Brian's production race era. In my opinion, Time to Get Alone is Brian's last classically produced song, and in itself is part genius. Everything about this song makes it one of the most creative BB songs of the later part of the decade...the lyrics, the vocals, the production; it's all classic Brian.
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2010, 09:49:55 AM »

The genius of Holland

This is the Beach Boys with direction, but not under Brian Wilson. To me, a lot of the post 67 albums still have a Brian direction to them, even without his personal touch (ie Sunflower or Surf's Up). Carl and the Passions seems to have no direction at all; it's like they're waiting for some direction and it never arrives. Holland, though trying to strike interest in Brian (and failed), mostly gave some sort of direction to the rest of the guys to write, produce, and perform a cohesive album.
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« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2010, 03:40:32 PM »

Breakaway.

and I know I am going to catch a bit of flack for this but "When Girls Get Together" has a wonderful and fun SMiLE-type feel to it. I love the song.
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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2010, 11:16:23 PM »

Breakaway.

and I know I am going to catch a bit of flack for this but "When Girls Get Together" has a wonderful and fun SMiLE-type feel to it. I love the song.

not at all from me...the track is an exploration in creativity, some type of sound that was never explored again. I enjoyed myself
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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2010, 11:53:22 PM »

"When Girls Get Together" is like a fun romp through an Italian funeral march, and I mean that in the best way possible. I personally think that "My Diane" is the most underappreciated song Brian wrote in the '70s. That, and "Winter Symphony". Those two songs represent another musical avenue Brian could've explored: piano songs with dense chords and light symphonic touches.
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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2010, 06:03:40 AM »

"When Girls Get Together" is like a fun romp through an Italian funeral march, and I mean that in the best way possible. I personally think that "My Diane" is the most underappreciated song Brian wrote in the '70s. That, and "Winter Symphony". Those two songs represent another musical avenue Brian could've explored: piano songs with dense chords and light symphonic touches.

It is an unusual melody for a Brian / Mike collaboration...but, in pulling the lyrics off a web site, the poem itself would make great fodder for a Womens' study program and perhaps the whole "women's sphere" communication issue.  My sense is that Mike (in all likelihood) nailed the essence of girlhood to old age, and the seasons in between... The lyrics appear to have been written from a  "bystander" point of view, where the girls just "keep to themselves" - they call it a "hen" party.  No pun on Thanksgiving Day!

Been to an Italian funeral lately...pass the biscotti!  LOL


 
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« Reply #34 on: December 01, 2010, 11:16:58 PM »

The production of POB is a genius in its own way.

How Dennis took his main influence (Brian) and almost duplicated what Brian did highly under the influence of Spector.
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« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2010, 02:04:39 AM »

Little Pad, This Whole World, Steamboat, Let Us Go On This Way.

Dude, you poached my avatar . . .

So it seems I did! And I thought I had one no one else had. Let me work on that for you!
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« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2010, 04:06:24 AM »

Little Pad, This Whole World, Steamboat, Let Us Go On This Way.

Dude, you poached my avatar . . .

So it seems I did! And I thought I had one no one else had. Let me work on that for you!

No worries man.  Time for a change.  If anyone already has this, please let me know.
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« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2010, 01:49:12 AM »

Ahhh...the cover picture for Volume 2 of "Get The Boot".  That was fun.
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« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2010, 07:41:40 AM »

"Aren't You Glad"...one of the most underrated post-Smile songs, imo. 
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« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2010, 09:47:49 AM »

"Aren't You Glad"...one of the most underrated post-Smile songs, imo. 

I've always felt that too. I feel it outshines the song Wild Honey. I just like the back-to-basics intro.
I've included it on a couple of mix tapes I've made for lady friends.
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« Reply #40 on: December 04, 2010, 09:39:40 AM »

I think the entire Wild Honey album has genius written all over it.  It's sad to me that the production on it was so minimalist, but then some folks may argue that that is part of the genius; the fact that they got so much out of so little.  Still, a little polish in the mastering would have been nice.
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« Reply #41 on: December 04, 2010, 11:59:26 AM »

'Country Air'... another work of sublime genius. (Especially *that* stereo version with the count-in.) Those harmonies, falsetto, whistling, mmm-mmms, "Come on!", that distorted organ......... well it sure seems like Heaven too-oo me.  Cool Cool Cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kymhUNr7Yhk

Thanks for the link. I kind of feel that I've really heard the song for the first time. I would love a stereo remix of Wild Honey.
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