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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2010, 06:43:33 PM »

I think some of these lyrics take this to a totally different level..
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« Reply #26 on: November 09, 2010, 01:06:08 AM »

"Barnyard Billy/loves his chicken"??
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« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2010, 08:29:50 AM »

Wasn't there another lyric, not sure from what song if any, something like "Sound sound the music sound"...... it is mentioned in the Priore yellow book somewhere... or is it just a dream I had?

Sorry to bring that up again but it's driving me nuts. Was that an unused VDP lyric snippet for SMiLE?
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« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2010, 09:58:39 PM »

Those verses about "This is not a recording" are so They Might Be Giants it's not even funny.
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2010, 02:10:16 AM »

Why should they be funny?
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« Reply #30 on: November 12, 2010, 06:04:35 AM »

Anyway... The whole reconnecting/out-of-order deal could be an apect of 'rebuilding -after-the fire' (instead of I'll Be Around/Workshop) which is why and how I placed it in the video. Or (even) more far-fetched a reference to the 'is this a track? No...' exchange from the Prayer session. That's why those lines particular ain't funny - not in my book anyway...
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« Reply #31 on: November 15, 2010, 11:04:00 AM »

Why should they be funny?

"It's not even funny" is English slang for saying something is so accurate/so good/so bad/so crazy, etc. that it is hard to believe it. TheLazenby simply meant that the cut "Cabin Essence" lyrics are extremely close to the kind of lyrics They Might Be Giants have written (nothing to do with whether they are humorous or not).
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« Reply #32 on: November 15, 2010, 05:25:26 PM »

 I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.
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« Reply #33 on: November 15, 2010, 06:15:39 PM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

I don't mind the lyric, but I do prefer the chant alone.
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« Reply #34 on: November 15, 2010, 07:07:58 PM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.
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« Reply #35 on: November 15, 2010, 08:01:05 PM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I agree with everyone - that lyric always struck me as incredibly cliche.  If not for the documentary showing Van Dyke teaching the part to Brian, I would have guessed that Brian wrote that particular line himself.  Water Chant is one of my favorite parts of Smile.  Such a cool vibe, as Day Tripper alluded to.  The rest of the lyrics to "In Blue Hawaii" are great though, I agree.
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« Reply #36 on: November 15, 2010, 09:43:16 PM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I have a problem deciphering the lyrics after the chant, is it "I lose a dream when I don't sleep, I'm slumberin'" or "A lucid dream when I don't sleep....."?
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« Reply #37 on: November 16, 2010, 04:44:33 AM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I have a problem deciphering the lyrics after the chant, is it "I lose a dream when I don't sleep, I'm slumberin'" or "A lucid dream when I don't sleep....."?

random online lyric site obtained by putting "In Blue Hawaii" +lyrics into Google, now, how hard was that ?

Alternatively, try looking in the booklet (granted, some of what's printed isn't exactly what Brian sings...).
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« Reply #38 on: November 16, 2010, 05:32:58 AM »

Thanks Roger for educating me in the English slang and TMBG...
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« Reply #39 on: November 16, 2010, 07:31:57 AM »

There's plenty of unused ideas and themes that  Brian and Co. chose not to include in the 2004 BWPS. I reckon it to Pet Sounds when Brian opted to re-write "I know There's An Answer" and scaled down the vocal round at the end of "God Only Knows" to make it a little less 'modern'. Ultimately, I think Brian and Darian made excellent choices in terms of creating a nicely flowing piece of music.

However, I will admit I am a big fan of such things as the alternate Cornucopia lyrics of "Vega-tables" (listening to that version, one can easily picture Brian pounding it out on the sandbox piano with a big grin on his face and a stack of sandwiches beside him).
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« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2010, 09:46:42 AM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I have a problem deciphering the lyrics after the chant, is it "I lose a dream when I don't sleep, I'm slumberin'" or "A lucid dream when I don't sleep....."?

random online lyric site obtained by putting "In Blue Hawaii" +lyrics into Google, now, how hard was that ?

Alternatively, try looking in the booklet (granted, some of what's printed isn't exactly what Brian sings...).

Ah come on,
it was a random lyric site that confused me in the first place, that's why I asked the place where I know I'll get the correct answer. Is it that annoying to answer a question you know the answer to?
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« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2010, 10:13:29 AM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I have a problem deciphering the lyrics after the chant, is it "I lose a dream when I don't sleep, I'm slumberin'" or "A lucid dream when I don't sleep....."?

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« Reply #42 on: November 16, 2010, 10:24:42 AM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I have a problem deciphering the lyrics after the chant, is it "I lose a dream when I don't sleep, I'm slumberin'" or "A lucid dream when I don't sleep....."?

It's whatever you want it to be!

While lucid dreaming is a big part of my sleep life, it doesn't make as much sense compared to the losing of a dream when a person doesn't sleep.
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« Reply #43 on: November 16, 2010, 10:46:10 AM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I have a problem deciphering the lyrics after the chant, is it "I lose a dream when I don't sleep, I'm slumberin'" or "A lucid dream when I don't sleep....."?

random online lyric site obtained by putting "In Blue Hawaii" +lyrics into Google, now, how hard was that ?

Alternatively, try looking in the booklet (granted, some of what's printed isn't exactly what Brian sings...).

Ah come on,
it was a random lyric site that confused me in the first place, that's why I asked the place where I know I'll get the correct answer. Is it that annoying to answer a question you know the answer to?

I checked four, five lyric sites, the booklet then finally listened to the song itself. Same answer each time.
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« Reply #44 on: November 16, 2010, 11:08:23 AM »

I'm curious as to whether this lyric is from 1967 or 2004 -

  "Is it hot as hell in here, or is it me? It really is a mystery."

  I actually hate this lyric. It sounds so cliche and uncreative when compared to Van Dyke's other lyrics.
 As someone who also dabbled in psychedelics, I loved the chanting section by itself, and I could just picture Brian sitting cross-legged on the floor stoned out of his mind when he came up with that. It gave the song an Eastern mystical vibe.    Just my opinion though.

It's a 2004 lyric.

I too prefer the chant by itself, like weehelper I don't mind the "Hot as hell" part too much. I really love the lyrics after the chant intro though.

I have a problem deciphering the lyrics after the chant, is it "I lose a dream when I don't sleep, I'm slumberin'" or "A lucid dream when I don't sleep....."?

random online lyric site obtained by putting "In Blue Hawaii" +lyrics into Google, now, how hard was that ?

Alternatively, try looking in the booklet (granted, some of what's printed isn't exactly what Brian sings...).

Ah come on,
it was a random lyric site that confused me in the first place, that's why I asked the place where I know I'll get the correct answer. Is it that annoying to answer a question you know the answer to?

I checked four, five lyric sites, the booklet then finally listened to the song itself. Same answer each time.

Ok, I honestly thought it WAS "I Lose a dream,"

I checked the lyric website just to double check....and it's a "Lucid Dream,"

But it doesn't even sound close to "A Lucid Dream," when Brian sings it. He clearly says "I" before "Lose a dream"

So now I'm confused. And I don't own the booklet. And these lyric websites suck.

As Alex says, I suppose it's just whatever we want it to be  Grin
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« Reply #45 on: November 17, 2010, 06:45:16 AM »

I'm pretty sure the BWPS booklet says "lose a dream". Stating the obvious, Parks uses a lot of puns and word-play in the SMiLE lyrics and I think he intended "lose a dream" to sound like "lucid dream" in the same way that "...hall a cost(ly)..." is meant to evoke "holocaust" in "Surf's Up".
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« Reply #46 on: November 18, 2010, 01:27:52 AM »

While on the subject of In Blue Hawaii.. "feel like I was really in the pink": 'I'm wonderin' - Haven't we seen this phrase  used before in a 'SMiLE-text'? Upon reflection YES. In Brian's 'psychedelicate' tale about his Vega-Tables (LLVS, page 68): "We'll soon be in the pink". Is that 'merely happenstance'? - we can ask ourselves.
The point of this vega-tale (though released, so strangely un-used) was for Brian to create a cinematic snap-shot of  his SMiLE entourage dynamics (much like the group photo in the airport). Posse-tively
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« Reply #47 on: November 19, 2010, 07:57:30 PM »

Yeah, that's what I meant by the TMBG comparison.

Those lyrics sound like a song they would've written for Dial-A-Song or something. :-P
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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2010, 04:54:33 AM »

While on the subject of In Blue Hawaii.. "feel like I was really in the pink": 'I'm wonderin' - Haven't we seen this phrase  used before in a 'SMiLE-text'? Upon reflection YES. In Brian's 'psychedelicate' tale about his Vega-Tables (LLVS, page 68): "We'll soon be in the pink". Is that 'merely happenstance'? - we can ask ourselves.

Or, we can reflect on the fact that "in the pink" is a very commonplace phrase, used by millions daily.

BTW, I don't believe Brian wrote the Beat piece any more than he wrote word one of his pseudobiography. The date's interesting, though, as by mid-December 1966, there had only been two documented quasi-"Vega Tables" sessions: the 'chants' on November 11th and the 'argument' five days later.
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« Reply #49 on: November 23, 2010, 03:28:06 AM »

Oh no Doe - PLEASE... Let us keep this one - that Brian still on top of his game in 1966 could author something like that 'vege-ta(b)le' (at least until hard or at least circumstantial evidence is uncovered to prove otherwise - something that someone like yorself would be able and willing to dig up(?))

And for somebody - anybody to even suggest that Brian didn't write that other fairytale (Mt. Vernon & Fairway) would be strictly no-go! So don't go there... EVER
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