Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!

[CenturyDeprived]

So, what's the board's stance on sharing material that's in the public domain now? Like this "We'll Run Away" rehearsal:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/y382kx

Baffling why this awesome version and the other available in-progress alternate versions weren't included on the "Keep an Eye on Summer" copyright extension release. Such an underrated track.

[Lee Marshall]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

[LeeDempsey]

So, what's the board's stance on sharing material that's in the public domain now? Like this "We'll Run Away" rehearsal:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/y382kx

Baffling why this awesome version and the other available in-progress alternate versions weren't included on the "Keep an Eye on Summer" copyright extension release. Such an underrated track.

Well, per an email I got yesterday from someone in the know, the work tapes of a released sound recording, including any aborted takes from the recording session that have the same arrangement as the released take, ARE covered under the umbrella of the copyright of the released version.  That was news to me.  So the example above is still a copyrighted work, and will be for another 20 years.  As I mentioned in the KEEP AN EYE ON SUMMER thread, the inclusion of some of the session outtakes wasn't due to copyright extension reasons, but instead was done to fill the package out into a general 1964 50th anniversary release.  But there were limits as to how many tracks Mark and Alan could include, and they tried to make the best choices they could.

Lee

[runnersdialzero]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

They got away with it because it could be explained that it's about spilling cocaine all over your blouse.

[alf wiedersehen]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

They got away with it because it could be explained that it's about spilling cocaine all over your blouse.

The interpretation of which is strengthened by this line, clearly about heroin: "When we rode the horse we got some thrills".

[bgas]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

They got away with it because it could be explained that it's about spilling cocaine all over your blouse.

The interpretation of which is strengthened by this line, clearly about heroin: "When we rode the horse we got some thrills".

Perhaps the two of you should start a standup act?

[Custom Machine]

Well, per an email I got yesterday from someone in the know, the work tapes of a released sound recording, including any aborted takes from the recording session that have the same arrangement as the released take, ARE covered under the umbrella of the copyright of the released version.  That was news to me.  So the example above is still a copyrighted work, and will be for another 20 years.  

Lee

Thanks for posting this info.  From a practical standpoint this completely makes sense. 

[Lee Marshall]

runnersdialzero and Bubbly Waves...are the best.  [at what I'm not the least bit certain. ]

Those gawd-dammed beach boys and girls and their friggin' drug habits!!!  Of course the BBC would support THAT.  As long as they're not rotting their ivories out with that horrible Coca Cola...or even worse...Pepsi.  

Can you imagine if Marilyn had spilt Pepsi...or Dr. Pepper all over her blouse?

By the way...Lola is a guy.

[Rocket]

What would you guys consider Brian's solo albums?

I understand something like Pet Sounds is considered a Beach Boys album, but we all know that it is essentially a solo album with Beach Boy vocals.

I'd say Pet Sounds, Smile, Love You, and Adult Child are. But what about albums like Today, SD(ASN), Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, and Friends?

[the captain]

I don't consider anything released as the Beach Boys to be BW solo. Doesn't matter to me whether BW wrote 25, 50, 75, or 90% of it, if it has the band singing (or playing) and it's credited to the Beach Boys, it's the Beach Boys.

Other than the technical difference, I think Smile Sessions v BWPS shows why. It's a vocal group. Their voices, their group.

[Rocket]

I don't consider anything released as the Beach Boys to be BW solo. Doesn't matter to me whether BW wrote 25, 50, 75, or 90% of it, if it has the band singing (or playing) and it's credited to the Beach Boys, it's the Beach Boys.

Other than the technical difference, I think Smile Sessions v BWPS shows why. It's a vocal group. Their voices, their group.

Definitely a fair point, makes a lot of sense.

I guess I shouldn't word it as "solo albums", but I guess I mean, which albums are considered mainly written and produced by Brian? Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, and Friends are all in question because of the infamous "Produced by The Beach Boys" label.

[bgas]

I don't consider anything released as the Beach Boys to be BW solo. Doesn't matter to me whether BW wrote 25, 50, 75, or 90% of it, if it has the band singing (or playing) and it's credited to the Beach Boys, it's the Beach Boys.

Other than the technical difference, I think Smile Sessions v BWPS shows why. It's a vocal group. Their voices, their group.

Definitely a fair point, makes a lot of sense.

I guess I shouldn't word it as "solo albums", but I guess I mean, which albums are considered mainly written and produced by Brian? Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, and Friends are all in question because of the infamous "Produced by The Beach Boys" label.

I can see your producing question, but 95% of the writing is Brian so thats a slam dunk

[runnersdialzero]

What would you guys consider Brian's solo albums?

I understand something like Pet Sounds is considered a Beach Boys album, but we all know that it is essentially a solo album with Beach Boy vocals.

I'd say Pet Sounds, Smile, Love You, and Adult Child are. But what about albums like Today, SD(ASN), Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, and Friends?

:| wat

[Autotune]

Who arranged the vocals on the songs "Make it Big", "Somewhere near Japan", and "Still Cruisin'"?

[Rocky Raccoon]

Who arranged the vocals on the songs "Make it Big", "Somewhere near Japan", and "Still Cruisin'"?

Probably Terry Melcher for all three.

[runnersdialzero]

Who arranged the vocals on the songs "Make it Big", "Somewhere near Japan", and "Still Cruisin'"?

Carole Kaye told me she did it.

[RangeRoverA1]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

They got away with it because it could be explained that it's about spilling cocaine all over your blouse.

The interpretation of which is strengthened by this line, clearly about heroin: "When we rode the horse we got some thrills".

Fyi, heroin="white horse". The horse on ASL is colorless.

[alf wiedersehen]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

They got away with it because it could be explained that it's about spilling cocaine all over your blouse.

The interpretation of which is strengthened by this line, clearly about heroin: "When we rode the horse we got some thrills".

Fyi, heroin="white horse". The horse on ASL is colorless.

FYI, no.

[Andrew G. Doe]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

They got away with it because it could be explained that it's about spilling cocaine all over your blouse.

They got away with it because even though it was a UK single A side in March 1965, it wouldn't have been played on the BBC anyway. Pirate radio, for sure.

[John Manning]

Aye, there'd be no poptastic hit spinning Radio 1 at that time. Did the Beeb have a pop music station at that stage?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Nope, none to speak of.

[RangeRoverA1]

FYI, no.

Whatevs. It's an awful idea to suggest that "All Summer Long" - an ultimate summer anthem - can have drug-related lyrics. So I'm with bgas on here.

[CarlTheVoice]

Recently I've heard quite a bit of Kate Bush and wondered what a duet (musically rather than vocally) with Brian would turn out like. Two great musical geniuses, both in their prime at a very young age and very competent at writing classics. It might not work now they're a lot older but I wondered whether you guys think it would have been a match made in heaven or an utter disaster?

They must have been on the same wavelength on this song I just discovered. Does the start remind you of anything.....?

http://youtu.be/G1vOHrrn7Ns

[Cyncie]

This doesn't merit a thread in any way, shape or form...but a response or 2 would be appreciated.  Probably the UK contingent could answer with a degree of experience.

" 'Member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"...Beach Boys...'All Summer Long'
"Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like cherry-cola."...Kinks...revamped 'Lola'

If memory serves...Ray and the kinky boys had to vacate a N. American tour for a moment in order to fly home and replace "tastes just like Coca Cola"...with "cherry cola".  They then flew back to resume the tour and the BBC began to play 'Lola'.

Coca Cola and Coke are BOTH registered trademarks.  The BBC didn't play songs with references to actual products as that was construed to be advertising.

QUESTION???  Did the BBC play All Summer Long at any point?  Did Brian's wife have to spill "coco over her blouse"?

Well, maybe the fact that "coke" is often used as a generic term for any cola soft drink helped the case. Coca Cola, on the other hand, is definitely a brand.

[runnersdialzero]

Whatevs. It's an awful idea to suggest that "All Summer Long" - an ultimate summer anthem - can have drug-related lyrics. So I'm with bgas on here.

Hay, I was just kidding about that.

Well, maybe the fact that "coke" is often used as a generic term for any cola soft drink helped the case. Coca Cola, on the other hand, is definitely a brand.

Yeah, maybe if you're from CHATTANOOGA OR SOMETHING