Brian Wilson & Phil Spector
Mark A. Moore:
Quote from: Bicyclerider on September 19, 2009, 06:46:52 AM
Mark - I think the argument can be made that Brian hiring the top LA musicians to do BB sessions more likely came from Jan Berry than Phil Spector, can it not? But when he started hiring twelve to fifteen musicians or more, as he did with some of Today and then certainly Pet Sounds, that was part of his desire to emulate and surpass the Wall of Sound Phil was doing.
True . . . I can ride with Brian emulating the "Wall of Sound." In fact, I think he surpassed it by far, because his productions were much cleaner than Spector's (in my opinion).
I just looked it up . . . and Jan Berry used 29 musicians (Wrecking Crew) on "Hawaii," "Fan Tan," and "Love & Hate" in 1967 (Carnival of Sound).
In general, I'd say that Jan always used more Wrecking Crew players per session than Brian did . . . Jan used two drummers playing in unison, and also usually doubled the bass and guitar parts.
It's all about arrangement, style, and production. That's why you get such different sounds from producers who were using the same musicians.
M.
A Million Units In Jan!:
In the Endless Harmony doc, Terry Melcher made a comment about how 'Phil's music was always about anger. Brian's was about love'. Which sums it up perfectly, IMHO....
Mr. Wilson:
Spector is full of merda + overrated...Calling BW overrated..phony..etc.. drives me nuts..BW wears his heart on his sleeve + his life is in full view of everyone..Spector some good music + did invent the Wall of Sound..Most of his music sounds more dated than BB music ever will be + he hasnt done much since mid 70"s..BW created positive spirit filled music..He created a sound tons of bands have tried to copy..Dont hear many people tryin to copy Phil..BW created the california sound..PS music is anger...PS is crazy as a loon + jealous..The harmonies BB music has is HARD to duplicate.. And from what ive read... Phil is a shark from the 50:s era..Hire people to sing + play + then keep all the rights + money..BW didnt steal from anyone..People stole money from Brian..Plus PS added his name to songs other people wrote to collect royalties..Spector is PATHETIC..!!
halblaineisgood:
flaws, be appreciated.
halblaineisgood:
im just trying to shoot from the hip
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