Tones by Mr. Carl Wilson

[BiG GRiN]

Has anyone heard the Tones vocals? And what was Dennis working on at the time of Tones? I wonder if the 72 smile would've included Tones, Cool Water, Can't Wait Too Long, etc... Also, I can see the project seeming to be a big challenge if the fragments were spread across tape, etc...

Dennis recorded a track (with Carl, Bruce, and Billy Hinsche) under the working title "I Don't Know".  That was in January, a couple of months before Carl did "Tones".

Is it booted??

I have two versions of the song 'I Don't Know' I found on the web, not on bootlegs, just as a single mp3.

one is labeled:  "Dennis Wilson - I Don't Know (piano demo acetate)" (1mn 08s)
Dennis plays piano alone,  with poor sound quality.
In my opinion, it can be a fragment of the real 'I don't know' from Smile era;

and the other:  "I Don't Know (dennis wilson) mono 1-12-67" (2mn 28s)
full orchestration (guitars, drums, bass...), with better sound;
My opinion, it's the other song titled "I don't know" recorded in 1977 by Dennis; it doesn't sounds like a Smile era song.

Mystery, always mystery around SMiLE!

The "other song" titled "I Don't Know" recorded in 1977 by Dennis is, in fact, "Love Remember Me" as included in the new "Bambu: The Caribou Sessions", Disc Two of "Pacific Ocean Blue:  Legacy Edition".  So if the "mono 1-12-67" (2mn 28s) track isn't THAT...it could be the SMiLE-era "I Don't Know".

Ho, sounds interesting, i didn't know that;
so let me take a listen to "Love Remember Me" and I will be able to give you an answer without doubt;
maybe a new step to the thruth about SMiLE !

[Andrew G. Doe]

Well, I don't know why a '72 SMiLE would have included Can't Wait Too Long or Cool Cool Water, as those aren't really songs that were even originally included. Tones maybe, but that's probably even a stretch. Most likley it would be the same songs as the original, as there was a ton of covers and booklets waiting to be used-unless they were destroyed by that point.

Does anyone know when Capitol finally scrapped all those booklets and LP covers?

I don't know when they were scrapped, but they couldn't have been used in '72...because they had "Capitol Records" printed on them, and the '72 SMiLE would've been a Warner release. 

My understanding is that the slicks & booklets were pulped in late 1969 - coincidentally when the band's contract with Capitol expired. 

[BiG GRiN]

Has anyone heard the Tones vocals? And what was Dennis working on at the time of Tones? I wonder if the 72 smile would've included Tones, Cool Water, Can't Wait Too Long, etc... Also, I can see the project seeming to be a big challenge if the fragments were spread across tape, etc...

Dennis recorded a track (with Carl, Bruce, and Billy Hinsche) under the working title "I Don't Know".  That was in January, a couple of months before Carl did "Tones".

Is it booted??

I have two versions of the song 'I Don't Know' I found on the web, not on bootlegs, just as a single mp3.

one is labeled:  "Dennis Wilson - I Don't Know (piano demo acetate)" (1mn 08s)
Dennis plays piano alone,  with poor sound quality.
In my opinion, it can be a fragment of the real 'I don't know' from Smile era;

and the other:  "I Don't Know (dennis wilson) mono 1-12-67" (2mn 28s)
full orchestration (guitars, drums, bass...), with better sound;
My opinion, it's the other song titled "I don't know" recorded in 1977 by Dennis; it doesn't sounds like a Smile era song.

Mystery, always mystery around SMiLE!

The "other song" titled "I Don't Know" recorded in 1977 by Dennis is, in fact, "Love Remember Me" as included in the new "Bambu: The Caribou Sessions", Disc Two of "Pacific Ocean Blue:  Legacy Edition".  So if the "mono 1-12-67" (2mn 28s) track isn't THAT...it could be the SMiLE-era "I Don't Know".

Ho, sounds interesting, i didn't know that;
so let me take a listen to "Love Remember Me" and I will be able to give you an answer without doubt;
maybe a new step to the thruth about SMiLE !

Ok, here's the news; I took a listen to "Love remember me" and that's nothing to do with "I don't know";
so maybe it's the Smile era song, I just thought it was the 1977's version because it sounds more like 70's than 60's and the note 'mono 1-12-67' was a mistake.
But once again the 2 versions I have are totally different
It still a mystery...