Sunflower

[mikeyj]

You could also add to that Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Lady, I'm Going Your Way, Seasons In The Sun, Susie Cincinatti, Back Home, Take A Load Off Your Feet etc.. Pretty crazy when you think about it!

and "At My Window" being on the album twice.

"Our Sweet Love" is in their twice as well.

[Jeff]

You could also add to that Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Lady, I'm Going Your Way, Seasons In The Sun, Susie Cincinatti, Back Home, Take A Load Off Your Feet etc.. Pretty crazy when you think about it!

To me that list just says that the Beach Boys made several mediocre or mediocre-minus songs that fortunately were left off of Sunflower.  Why is that crazy?

[TdHabib]

You could also add to that Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Lady, I'm Going Your Way, Seasons In The Sun, Susie Cincinatti, Back Home, Take A Load Off Your Feet etc.. Pretty crazy when you think about it!

To me that list just says that the Beach Boys made several mediocre or mediocre-minus songs that fortunately were left off of Sunflower.  Why is that crazy?

[/quote]You call "Lady (Fallin' in Love)" mediocre?? Blasphemy

[TdHabib]

And yes Luther, the quoting went hay-wire there. I GET IT.

[mikeyj]

To me that list just says that the Beach Boys made several mediocre or mediocre-minus songs that fortunately were left off of Sunflower.  Why is that crazy?

Well I think it's pretty amazing that they were so productive at that time - if you read my post I never said that those songs should have been on Sunflower just mentioning the fact that they had so much material in the vaults that dated from around that time. I also think it's funny how some people think that Brian is the be all and end all in the band and yet the other guys showed that they were capable as well. Obviously that's your opinion that those songs are mediocre or even worse but I think there is some decent material there. Yes, considering their past record some of those songs are mediocre but then again compared to some of the earlier material most songs ever written in the pop field look pretty mediocre. But I think some of those songs are still pretty decent especially since some of them weren't even finished. And there's probably more that I am forgetting as well.

[Luther]

And yes Luther, the quoting went hay-wire there. I GET IT.

Technically, I doubt it went haywire. You just made a mistake.

[Luther]

I do think Lady is mediocre, though, if on the good end of mediocre. It's better than some of his material on Sunflower, though. That album, in my perfect world, should have included it, as well as Good Time (remarkable that they left that off, it's in the upper half when compared to the songs on that current album), Take a Load Off Your Feet, Breakaway (yeah, so it was a single ... so what. Put it on the album, too), and Loop de Loop and if they had finished it, Soulful Old Man Sunshine.

[Crinkleman123]

Sunflower as a double-album:
                   Side 1
1.San Miguel
2.Deirdre
3.All I Wanna Do
4.Break Away
5.Loop de Loop
6.Slip On Through
                  Side 2
7.Cotton Fields
8.When Girls Get Together
9.Good Time
10.Take A Load Off Your Feet
11.I Just Got My Pay
12.Add Some Music To Your Day
                 Side 3
13.This Whole World
14.Soulful Old Man Sunshine
15.Tears In The Morning
16.Games Two Can Play
17.At My Window
18.Celebrate The News
                 Side 4
19.Back Home
20.Fallin' In Love
21.Our Sweet Love
22.Forever
23.Susie Cincinnati
24.Cool, Cool Water

[carl r]

My ideas were a bit rushed originally, i prefer crinkleman's to my own in most regards. I Just Got My Pay is one of my favorites, just don't ask why, I really couldn't tell you. At My Window ... it was a mistake to include it twice, but thinking about it, an instrumental reprise would be nice to hear. As for being a monster, I guess there's a bit of truth in that. Rar!

Just an additional thought: one of the criticisms of the released Sunflower is lack of a theme. I guess increasing the number of "pom-pom-pom" numbers would let a theme emerge, of a "Music Hall" Beach Boys. Bear with me. A tragi-comic night at the Peoples Musical Theatre. Sunflower extended.

[Alex]

Everyone needs to take three steps back, count to ten, and relax.

Relax, don't do it, when you want to go to it...

OMG, a Frankie reference on Smiley SMiLE!! Fodaing awesome...way to go, Alex... 

Well, I did recently go to a FGTH concert at the Pleasuredome!!

[sleeptalk]

i really don't get the hate for the bruce songs that some people seem to have. the only two songs on the album that are definitely better than them are "forever" and "cool cool water," and maybe "all i wanna do"...

[Luther]

Considering I rank This Whole World among my favorite 5-10 BBs songs, I'd certainly rank it above Bruce's Sunflower songs (not to mention above Forever--by about a factor of a hundred--and Cool Cool Water).

[sleeptalk]

Considering I rank This Whole World among my favorite 5-10 BBs songs, I'd certainly rank it above Bruce's Sunflower songs (not to mention above Forever--by about a factor of a hundred--and Cool Cool Water).

the a capella "Forever" on Hawthorne is my 2nd favorite Beach Boys song, after "God Only Knows." it is scripture.

"This Whole World" is great, though.

[Luther]

the a capella "Forever" on Hawthorne is my 2nd favorite Beach Boys song, after "God Only Knows." it is scripture.

Fair enough. But file me under "heretic," then. 

[Don_Zabu]

Unlike most, I actually love "Add Some Music Too Your Day". It's able to penetrate past the part of my brain that would normally notice how corny the lyrics are and directly bury itself in the overgrown child part of me.

[slothrop]

Unlike most, I actually love "Add Some Music Too Your Day". It's able to penetrate past the part of my brain that would normally notice how corny the lyrics are and directly bury itself in the overgrown child part of me.

Indeed, the lyrics are corny. However, they're also very true. Great lyrics because they speak the truth and don't care whether it's "hip" or not.

[LetHimRun]

5. Great album. A little bit of sugar from Bruce, but not horrible. The rest is great.

[Don_Zabu]

If I were making up this album, I'd replace "Got to Know the Woman" with "Sail Plane Song", "Tears in the Morning" with "Soulful Old Man Sunshine", and "At My Window" with Bruce Johnston's version of "I Write The Songs". Yeah, I know the song hadn't been written yet, but it fits too well to not make it a flawless masterpiece for the ages.