Poor crowd at TLOS USA Premier

[Fear 2 Stop®]

I'm sorry...as great of a vocalist as Jeff is, when I go to a Brian show, I want Brian to be singing lead.

[joe_blow]

I remember when SMile came to Vancouver it was announced with a full page ad 6 or 7 before the show....then it wasn't even listed in upcomin concerts until about 2 weeks before. Not surprisingly the show in the 3000 seat theatre came close but did not sell out. Poor.

[Luther]

I'm sorry...as great of a vocalist as Jeff is, when I go to a Brian show, I want Brian to be singing lead.

Not me. I'd be pissed if Brian sat there using his voice as much as he uses his keyboard, of course. But spreading the wealth a little, especially for lines here and there, a song here or there, I think is no problem at all for the betterment of the overall show. But I know there are a lot of different opinions on that.

[Doo Dah]

Agreed - it was a nice change up in tonight's show. Jeff sounded great and it rested Brian's pipes. We need maybe a couple more 'rest stops' like that for Brian. No harm in that, since he can drop in a verse or two instead of a lead. It works.

Close to full tonight btw, with a capacity of around 600 in the theater.

[donald]

Small crowds.  You know, I have some thoughts on this new album's welcome by the public.

I had an opportunity to hear this some time ago but the quality was not so good. 

My initial impression was that it was not so good and just somewhere between the new smile and giomh. 

 The initial promotion, that it was commissioned, to be performed in England, was a narrative, and on the heals of the legendary SMiLE, it just sounded like more product to get out there before the excitement over smile faded.

OH but MY-0-MY!!!!!   When I heard the studio release I was absolutely knocked out!  I just love this record.  But the day before i bought it, I might not have rushed out to get a ticket for a performance.

I  most certainly would now.  And I'd take vacation and travel serious miles to see it performed.

Maybe some others who didn't attend the initial show/s were in the same mindset as me.

It would be a shame for this music not to be seen and appreciated by dedicated fans who don't yet "get it".

[Jim McShane]

I'm sorry...as great of a vocalist as Jeff is, when I go to a Brian show, I want Brian to be singing lead.

Not me. I'd be pissed if Brian sat there using his voice as much as he uses his keyboard, of course. But spreading the wealth a little, especially for lines here and there, a song here or there, I think is no problem at all for the betterment of the overall show. But I know there are a lot of different opinions on that.

I agree with you Luther. There are some leads where Brian does fine. Even when he doesn't have the whole lead he can still be a contributor, like he was on WIBN taking the old Mike part. Sometimes a different lead is great - especially when it can mean the song is performed in the original key instead of transposed down to suit Brian's range.

[The Heartical Don]

I'm sorry...as great of a vocalist as Jeff is, when I go to a Brian show, I want Brian to be singing lead.

Not me. I'd be pissed if Brian sat there using his voice as much as he uses his keyboard, of course. But spreading the wealth a little, especially for lines here and there, a song here or there, I think is no problem at all for the betterment of the overall show. But I know there are a lot of different opinions on that.

I agree with you Luther. There are some leads where Brian does fine. Even when he doesn't have the whole lead he can still be a contributor, like he was on WIBN taking the old Mike part. Sometimes a different lead is great - especially when it can mean the song is performed in the original key instead of transposed down to suit Brian's range.

Wasn't there a time when Brian indeed did let others sing his material? Can anyone fill me in on this?

[LostArt]

I'm sorry...as great of a vocalist as Jeff is, when I go to a Brian show, I want Brian to be singing lead.

Not me. I'd be pissed if Brian sat there using his voice as much as he uses his keyboard, of course. But spreading the wealth a little, especially for lines here and there, a song here or there, I think is no problem at all for the betterment of the overall show. But I know there are a lot of different opinions on that.

I agree with you Luther. There are some leads where Brian does fine. Even when he doesn't have the whole lead he can still be a contributor, like he was on WIBN taking the old Mike part. Sometimes a different lead is great - especially when it can mean the song is performed in the original key instead of transposed down to suit Brian's range.

Wasn't there a time when Brian indeed did let others sing his material? Can anyone fill me in on this?

 

[SloopJohnB]

Wasn't there a time when Brian indeed did let others sing his material? Can anyone fill me in on this?

You're missing Billy's point. At that time, "The Beach Boys" was written on the album cover and on the concert posters... Not "Brian Wilson". 

I guess sharing the leads would be okay if he was recording as nothing more than the member of a band ("The Lucky Suns", or whatever). But then he would sound and look odd compared to Scott, Darian or Taylor. I'd rather listen to a BW-composed album on which he doesn't sing at all than to an album on which he is "just another member".

[warnakey]

This is kind of a shame. But Brian Wilson has always been more about studio work than live shows anyway

[Fear 2 Stop®]

You're missing Billy's point. At that time, "The Beach Boys" was written on the album cover and on the concert posters... Not "Brian Wilson".  I guess sharing the leads would be okay if he was recording as nothing more than the member of a band ("The Lucky Suns", or whatever). 

Ding! For better or worse, if I pay money to hear Brian sing lead, I...want to hear Brian sing lead. If it's a song that Brian can't or doesn't feel like singing, then...don't do the freaking song. Do something else.

[The Heartical Don]

You're missing Billy's point. At that time, "The Beach Boys" was written on the album cover and on the concert posters... Not "Brian Wilson".  I guess sharing the leads would be okay if he was recording as nothing more than the member of a band ("The Lucky Suns", or whatever). 

Ding! For better or worse, if I pay money to hear Brian sing lead, I...want to hear Brian sing lead. If it's a song that Brian can't or doesn't feel like singing, then...don't do the freaking song. Do something else.

...which strikes me as irresistably funny. You pay money to hear Brian sing lead, and you... want to hear Brian sing lead. Makes eminent sense. S'pose Jeff Foskett would come on stage and announce: sorry folks, Brian is indisposed, we got Phil Collins tonite, enjoy!... what would you do, Billy The Kid C.?

[TheOther Anonymous]

Going by the youtube clip, the 500 at the show loved it!

It was the best lead sung at a Brian Wilson concert since Al Jardine I'm afraid.


 

[SurferGirl7]

Hey Heretical, they could also show some old Brian Landy era workout videos like it was in one of my nightmares before I saw Brian the first time 

[Fear 2 Stop®]

You're missing Billy's point. At that time, "The Beach Boys" was written on the album cover and on the concert posters... Not "Brian Wilson".  I guess sharing the leads would be okay if he was recording as nothing more than the member of a band ("The Lucky Suns", or whatever). 

Ding! For better or worse, if I pay money to hear Brian sing lead, I...want to hear Brian sing lead. If it's a song that Brian can't or doesn't feel like singing, then...don't do the freaking song. Do something else.

...which strikes me as irresistably funny. You pay money to hear Brian sing lead, and you... want to hear Brian sing lead. Makes eminent sense. S'pose Jeff Foskett would come on stage and announce: sorry folks, Brian is indisposed, we got Phil Collins tonite, enjoy!... what would you do, Billy The Kid C.?

Demand a refund and use the money towards a hitman.  Unless Collins was drumming.

I kid, I kid.

Hey Heretical, they could also show some old Brian Landy era workout videos like it was in one of my nightmares before I saw Brian the first time

[TheOther Anonymous]

This statement on any publicity for a Brian Wilson concert from now on may make the group singing any lead a easier pill to swallow.


  The Brian Wilson Band
 
   "The best touring band, period.~~Sir Paul McCartney"

[forget marie]

It isn't new.  Hasn't Jeff been doing some leads for almost the past year?  I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one clip of Jeff doing WIBN in Europe this summer.  He also does "And Then I Kissed Her."

[lance]

Why wouldnt Paul McCartney say "full stop?"

[SloopJohnB]

It isn't new.  Hasn't Jeff been doing some leads for almost the past year?  I'm pretty sure I've seen at least one clip of Jeff doing WIBN in Europe this summer.  He also does "And Then I Kissed Her."

He also did "She Knows Me Too Well" during the TLOS show I attended last year.

[Jim Marrs]

There are also some other reasons. For those that have the guts to speak up, I attended one of Brians Greatest Hits concerts, this past summer. The sound was like listening to a cassette tape from the 70's. Very muddy sound, Brian often looked confused, and looked like he did not want to be there.  After the group performed about 6 songs, I saw about 70+ people leave the show. I stayed for the 70 minute performance, but did not enjoy the show. I was seated with 6 die hard Beach Boys / Brian Wilson fans, and they mostly agreed with me. I also was one of the posters on the blueboard that got lambasted about comments on  the show. I even asked for a refund, but never recieved one. Spending $90.00 per ticket, and not enjoying the show at Hampton Beach NH, (first time in 37+ years) I made the decision that I will not attend another show by Brian. I also received hate e-mail by the goody two shoes on the blue board, for posting my comments. What happened to free speach, and speaking up to tell the truth.

ONE LAST THOUGHT: If anyone asked for a refund to any of Brians summer shows, and got one, please let me know, or post it here. I know of a couple of people that requested refunds, and didn't recieve one. So much for the refund offer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   
To those that attend the upcoming TLOS shows, hopefully you will get a better performance, than what I saw this past summer.

JIM MARRS