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« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2008, 12:48:38 AM »

I don't think it's complete Mike Love propaganda. TM wouldn't've been portrayed so negatively.
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« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2008, 10:17:48 AM »

i finally saw this movie recently. this and the Summer Dreams movie kinda get the first years right but once they it the Pet Sounds/Smile era all hell breaks loose: Pet Sounds in a sandbox, hundreds of people partying in Brians house, loops of barking dogs. 
but i do get some perverse, nerdy enjoyment from watching this very interesting time in the Beach Boys history get butchered up into a complete farce.
some things that stand out to me: i thought it was funny how "Van Dyke" is in one seen spouting that beatles, continental quote from i believe that Tower Records parking lot interview from It's O.K. and then the next scene he is in like 5 or 10 minutes later (in the Nik Venet pool scene) he picks right up where he left off with the Beach Boys, Panamerican vibe line. (thats another thing about this movie. all the dialogue is super jam packed with information and it seems like most of it was ripped verbatim from the various beach boys books that i have read.)
i got a big, stoned laugh out of the smile sessions doll scene. also when Dennis punches out that window and yells at Brian through the floor and the camera cuts to Brian on the floor of his bedroom with a weirdly comical, paranoid face. (this guy did a horrible job at portraying Brian, especially during this era on. the one from Summer Dreams is at least likable). also when Manson screams "YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE FAMILY" and Dennis runs for his life
the guy that plays Mike Love does a good job to a degree (voice, mannerisms) but is too nice and caring (the seen when he and brian are working on good vibrations and brian hugs him made me cringe a little)
overall i think the Summer Dreams movie is a lot better (the cocaine/hamburger sessions scene is great), but this one does spend more time on the smile era albeit in a completely innacurate, f***ed up way. these movies should definitely be watched with a sense of humor
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« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2008, 10:58:38 AM »

Fred Weller (Brian Wilson) is my soon-to-be brother in law. No merda.

Get him on here, I bet he's got some good stories to tell us. I'd be interested in the research, the directions he got, the script changes etc. He isn't connected with the Beach Boys now, so he doesn't have to pull any punches.
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« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2008, 11:58:18 AM »

fodaed LOL
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« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2008, 12:46:30 PM »

Say wha?
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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2008, 01:34:45 PM »

Say wha?

I think "exposedbrain" is amused with one of the board's imposed euphemisms for profanity.
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« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2008, 01:44:30 PM »

Ah, I see now.
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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2008, 03:59:24 PM »

Just finished the entire movie...not too impressed. Better than nothing for sure, but how can they get so many things wrong?  In the case of the Beach Boys, the truth is perfectly interesting enough to make a movie based exclusively on fact without having to add in crap to make it 'entertaining'. 
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« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2008, 07:11:06 PM »

sudden jump from SMiLE to Let The Wind Blow...no Jack Reiley...no Blondie or Ricky...no trip to Holland...no Steve Desper...Bruce Playing with them on stage in '74...Brian with his 15 Big Ones era look in 1969...Brian being portrayed as a hapless "mentally handicapped person" (for lack of a better term).........there's so much more I could call out.

I think some people are being a little unrealistic. I mean if you were to cover all eras of the Beach Boys up until say 1983, the movie would have to go for like 15 hours or something.
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« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2008, 08:07:24 PM »

sudden jump from SMiLE to Let The Wind Blow...no Jack Reiley...no Blondie or Ricky...no trip to Holland...no Steve Desper...Bruce Playing with them on stage in '74...Brian with his 15 Big Ones era look in 1969...Brian being portrayed as a hapless "mentally handicapped person" (for lack of a better term).........there's so much more I could call out.

I think some people are being a little unrealistic. I mean if you were to cover all eras of the Beach Boys up until say 1983, the movie would have to go for like 15 hours or something.

I agree, you can't expect every little thing to make it in (although the jump from Smile to "Let the Wind Blow" is pretty jarring).  That's why I really think the BB/Brian story would best be told in an HBO mini-series, similar to what they just did with the John Adams series. 
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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2008, 09:49:48 PM »

Plus, did I already mention that they guy who played Murry was on the 2nd episode of Seinfeld, "Male Un-Bonding". He played a Jerry's friend Joel Horneck, who Jerry tried to "break up with" because he couldn't stand the guy, but Jerry couldn't go through with it because Horneck started crying when Jerry tried to "break up" with him.

I have seen that one! Seinfeld is greatness. Not to mention that two episodes feature Wouldn't it Be Nice and California Girls.
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Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2008, 06:03:01 AM »

Is there a source online to view the Summer Dreams movie?  I saw it when it was current, but it's been several years and I would love to view it in all of it's innacurate glory!
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