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« on: March 29, 2008, 12:30:54 PM »

I know that Brian's on the skins (drums) for this track, but does he provide most of the other instrumentation? Also is he on any of the backing vocals?

AFAIK, this song was written & recorded in one session, ostensibly one of the few (aside from Mount Vernon and Fairway) in Holland where Brian was truly active.
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2008, 09:02:28 PM »

My guess would say he is contributed more than just drums, but I can't say for sure.  For the backing vocals, my ears say you can hear Brian on the "Ooooooooohh FUNKY"'s near the end of the song, if anyone knows what part I'm referring to.  Really seems to me like his voice stands out a bit there.
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2008, 02:02:41 AM »

The only parts on Holland where I can really make out Brian are on the fairy tale and Cal Saga pt 3.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2008, 09:42:07 AM »

An article from the "Holland" era stated that all the instruments on "Funky Pretty" were played by Brian, Carl, and Ricky.  I would imagine that Brian played drums and most or all of the keyboards, Carl played the guitar and maybe some keyboards, and Ricky overdubbed the percussion.
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2008, 09:57:45 AM »

From 02:22 to 02:35 you can hear Brian on the backing vocals. He sings something like "funky pretty gone", three times.
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2008, 12:13:31 AM »

Ooh Funky is him slightly speed up.
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 10:42:28 AM »

He's also singing  "Funky Girl, why" part in the normal, "correct" speed.
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 11:09:34 AM »

An article from the "Holland" era stated that all the instruments on "Funky Pretty" were played by Brian, Carl, and Ricky.  I would imagine that Brian played drums and most or all of the keyboards, Carl played the guitar and maybe some keyboards, and Ricky overdubbed the percussion.

Ricky probably played the moog, as he did on "Leaving This Town".
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2009, 06:57:12 AM »

An article from the "Holland" era stated that all the instruments on "Funky Pretty" were played by Brian, Carl, and Ricky.  I would imagine that Brian played drums and most or all of the keyboards, Carl played the guitar and maybe some keyboards, and Ricky overdubbed the percussion.

Ricky probably played the moog, as he did on "Leaving This Town".

I think the moog really adds a lot to FP.  Do we know who did the arrangement of the moog parts -- Ricky or Brian?  It always sounded to me like the atmospherics of some of the Spring album (esp.  Sweet Mountain).
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2009, 07:18:17 AM »

I love the way they did "Funky Pretty" live — it rocked in a way the studio version didn't.
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 07:46:33 AM »

I agree, I always loved the version on the Concert album....it seemed like a steller song to keep on setlist
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2009, 08:09:37 AM »

I really like this song.  Silly but good....and it seems to have been done with tongue in cheek to some extent.   Part of the greatness of Holland.   So many good songs.  It has occured to me that If CATP and Holland were melded into one release back in the day, with a couple of the weaker numbers deleted...and only a couple....this would have been one monumental album.  And given the short period of time between releases, at least by today's standards, it would have been a truly great album done in a relatively short time....again, by todays standard of 3 years betweeen albums.

I've listened to FP carefully and I hear the very high electronic melody overtop and behind everthing else......and it sounds similar to some of the sounds I hear on Mt Vernon.....have you noticed it?

A sound Brian was into at the moment?

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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2009, 09:12:29 AM »

yeah, i always thought Funky Pretty sounded a lot like Mt. Vernon and Fairway...a good intro to the EP if you will....
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2009, 02:19:27 PM »

... it sounds similar to some of the sounds I hear on Mt Vernon.....have you noticed it?
A sound Brian was into at the moment?

Yep, totally.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2009, 11:38:20 PM »

I really like that synthesiser sound on that album(on that song and MT.Vernon.)
I had always thought that nearly all the instruments were Brian. That is truly one weird track.

I like the live version a little better, too, but it's a different animal.
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« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2009, 02:47:13 AM »

I didn't like the concert version as much as it obviously lacked most of the beautiful synth touches so prominently featured in the original arrangement. Brian really should've done a whole album bursting with FP/Sweet Mountain-type "magic synthesizer" songs in 1973.
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« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2009, 09:08:15 AM »

I didn't like the concert version as much as it obviously lacked most of the beautiful synth touches so prominently featured in the original arrangement. Brian really should've done a whole album bursting with FP/Sweet Mountain-type "magic synthesizer" songs in 1973.

I agree with this.  The concert version doesn't do as much for me because it lacks the synth touches.  The synthesizer really elevates the song into something special.
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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2009, 11:20:19 AM »

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I didn't like the concert version as much as it obviously lacked most of the beautiful synth touches so prominently featured in the original arrangement. Brian really should've done a whole album bursting with FP/Sweet Mountain-type "magic synthesizer" songs in 1973.

Supposedly Brian wanted to make "Mt. Vernon & Fairway" and "Funky Pretty" the centerpiece of a new BB album, but the group felt that "Mt. Vernon" was a little too weird to be a centerpiece. Supposedly Brian felt rejected and stopped working with the group for awhile.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2009, 11:50:27 AM »

Exactly what kind of MOOG is that on Funky Pretty?
To my ears it sounds like a Mini Moog.
And the MOOG "bass line" during the Copenhagee/Tokyosee section sounds phenomenal
when played LOUD! Shakes the floor like MOOG Taurus bass pedals do when listening to Genesis or RUSH.

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2009, 01:43:44 PM »

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I didn't like the concert version as much as it obviously lacked most of the beautiful synth touches so prominently featured in the original arrangement. Brian really should've done a whole album bursting with FP/Sweet Mountain-type "magic synthesizer" songs in 1973.

Supposedly Brian wanted to make "Mt. Vernon & Fairway" and "Funky Pretty" the centerpiece of a new BB album, but the group felt that "Mt. Vernon" was a little too weird to be a centerpiece. Supposedly Brian felt rejected and stopped working with the group for awhile.

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2009, 02:04:27 PM »

I can't see Mt. Vernon as the center of a Beach Boys album; however, it's interesting to think if the Beach Boys had styled a 'fairytale'-themed album in the style of That Lucky Old Sun, with a few lines of narration in between similarly themed groups of songs. That could have been cool. ...The Beach Boys present a California fairytale?
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2009, 02:05:51 PM »

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I didn't like the concert version as much as it obviously lacked most of the beautiful synth touches so prominently featured in the original arrangement. Brian really should've done a whole album bursting with FP/Sweet Mountain-type "magic synthesizer" songs in 1973.
Supposedly Brian wanted to make "Mt. Vernon & Fairway" and "Funky Pretty" the centerpiece of a new BB album, but the group felt that "Mt. Vernon" was a little too weird to be a centerpiece. Supposedly Brian felt rejected and stopped working with the group for awhile.
Did Brian want "Funky Pretty" as centerpiece of ANY album? It sounds more like he woke up in good mood and decided to join the boys in the studio, writing this light ditty in a matter of minutes. After the Holland experience, how did Brian stop working with the group? He recorded the Christmas single and was available for the next try at a new album at Caribou Studios, in '74.
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2009, 03:47:59 PM »

Supposedly Brian wanted to make "Mt. Vernon & Fairway" and "Funky Pretty" the centerpiece of a new BB album, but the group felt that "Mt. Vernon" was a little too weird to be a centerpiece. Supposedly Brian felt rejected and stopped working with the group for awhile.

Deja Vu all over again? Another SMiLE situation?

So, my natural response would be, then why did the guys do such a beautiful job singing on the record, why did they/Carl finish it, and why would they ultimately release it - complete with picture sleeve (more $$$$$ spent)?
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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2009, 07:35:52 PM »

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So, my natural response would be, then why did the guys do such a beautiful job singing on the record, why did they/Carl finish it, and why would they ultimately release it - complete with picture sleeve (more $$$$$ spent)?

I don't know, that's just what I've heard. Maybe Carl and the group (mainly Carl it would seem, who was always very sympathetic to Brian) finished it as a goodwill gesture, after they saw that Brian was hurt? Maybe the record company wanted more Brian, regardless of what it was? That's how "Sail on Sailor" got on the record. And after all of that they still made sure that it was clearly distinguished as being separate from Holland. I know I heard a bootleg with a tape of Brian playing parts of the fairytale to a reporter in Holland and he sounds really into it and proud. Why didn't he finish it, then? Just because of randomly changing moods? Or was it like "Til I Die", where a few negative comments can send him retreating? We'll never know, but they're just as probable.
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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2009, 08:19:35 PM »

Dada, I wasn't disagreeing with the theory that Brian might've felt dejected and stopped working with the group over "Mt. Vernon". He probably was/did. My post was just an observation that, again, the group ultimately rose to the occasion and recorded the song, brilliantly in fact, much like the SMiLE material.

By 1972, the guys probably felt that if Brian wanted something recorded, record it, because A) they didn't want him to retreat again (which he did anyway), and B) due to Brian's dwindling output, they'd take ANYTHING they could get their hands on.

It seems that Brian ultimately got recorded every song he ever wanted recorded. I'm curious, does anybody know of any songs that Brian wrote and wanted to record that didn't get recorded?
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