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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2008, 12:27:12 PM » |
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From the few listens I've had, I think I can see why Adult/Child wasn't released : it's just not that much fun to listen to. Whether you like it or not, Love You sounds like they are having a crack making it. I think that "I want to pick you up" is a wind-up, a joke, like a lot of songs where Dennis does the vocals,
On Adult/Child there are a few tracks which I think are pretty good - but it sounds like Brian wanted a full big band album to try his hand at some different stuff, but then he was persuaded to balance it, and they all sort went for a muddy compromise.
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« Reply #26 on: January 17, 2008, 03:37:24 PM » |
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It's more probable that Brian started recording those big bands tracks and lost interest halfway through.
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« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2008, 08:56:37 PM » |
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I have a question about the track list for this album. Is the bootlegged version that circulates the final "approved" album? Or did a few songs need some more work and touch up's?
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« Reply #28 on: January 17, 2008, 10:54:57 PM » |
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The version that was on the original bootleg LP and most reissues on vinyl and CD is the real album.
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« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2008, 09:20:30 PM » |
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Exactly who's idea was Adult/Child? Was it Brian's "baby"? I seem to remember reading that Landy took a very active role in the general concept of the album.
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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2008, 12:23:16 AM » |
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Well the title may be some sort of pyschobable but Landy was gone by the time most of the new songs were recorded. He claimed to have helped on Love You.
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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2008, 01:25:02 AM » |
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The title of Adult/Child was Landy's, down to the slash.
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2008, 01:34:57 AM » |
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.....sounds like it. Honestly though, was he referring to Brian or himself...he he
Give the dude credit though, it's a great title, imo.
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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2008, 01:06:16 PM » |
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Give the dude credit though, it's a great title, imo.
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2008, 01:23:43 PM » |
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The only problem was, the group was trying to convince the public that Brian was more ADULT than CHILD. I'm guessing that's why the rumored "Group Therapy" album title was also nixed in favor of 15 Big Ones.
Landy didn't give up, however, when he tried to sell "Sweet Insanity". Actually, I was a bit surprised "Getting In Over My Head" was chosen...
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« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2008, 09:11:24 PM » |
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"Everybody Wants to Live" ranks up there with "You've lost that loving feeling" IMHO as some of the best "hidden treasure" in the band's backlog of unreleased tracks.
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« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2008, 05:15:08 AM » |
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"Everybody Wants to Live" ranks up there with "You've lost that loving feeling" IMHO as some of the best "hidden treasure" in the band's backlog of unreleased tracks.
Love that song. It is one of those strange songs I launch into everytime I am just sitting around strumming my acoustic. I think the line "everybody wants to live just once" is very heartfelt.
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« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2008, 04:20:15 PM » |
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the title 'Adult/Child' always reminded me of 'Dumb Angel'... just not as good.
I'm a big fan of "I Wanna Pick You Up"... maybe it's sincere, maybe it's kinky, maybe it's a joke. I still love it. The "pat, pat, pat" lyric is right up there with "I'd Love Just Once to See You" for most shocking/hilarious line to end a Beach Boy song.
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« Reply #38 on: January 20, 2008, 09:11:08 PM » |
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Does anybody know what the reaction was when the other Beach Boys heard the songs from Brian? I was just listening to "Life Is For The Living" the other day, and I was just wondering what was going on in Carl's head when he sang it.
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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2008, 10:35:19 PM » |
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Well Mike had liked the Love You songs as heard on demo tapes, but Brian once said Mike did not like the Big Band tracks. I think Carl and Dennis wanted to be supportive. Al is more of perfectionist so perhaps he didn't care for some of these songs. I forgot what he has said when asked about them.
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« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2008, 11:57:28 PM » |
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Does anybody know what the reaction was when the other Beach Boys heard the songs from Brian? I was just listening to "Life Is For The Living" the other day, and I was just wondering what was going on in Carl's head when he sang it.
I doubt he was too fussed - that was the beginning of his descent into the abyss. Listen to the vocal - it's sloppy for Carl.
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« Reply #41 on: January 22, 2008, 01:22:35 AM » |
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Found an Al quote on Love You, It was like a demo. We did it in another studio that we built in Santa Monica, again from spare parts. When I finally built my own studio in Big Sur, the guys didn't want to come. I couldn't believe none of the Beach Boys wanted to come - by then Brian didn't want to leave. After the Holland album, can you blame him? [laughs] There's some gems on Love You. I co-wrote "Good Time" with Brian. [Starts singing some of the song]. That's a typical Brian track, kinda goofy and zany. It was really really a lot of fun doing that
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« Reply #42 on: January 22, 2008, 01:47:00 AM » |
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Does anybody know what the reaction was when the other Beach Boys heard the songs from Brian? I was just listening to "Life Is For The Living" the other day, and I was just wondering what was going on in Carl's head when he sang it.
I doubt he was too fussed - that was the beginning of his descent into the abyss. Listen to the vocal - it's sloppy for Carl. He sounds MUCH worse on "It's Over Now" though. I've often wondered how "far gone" Carl was when he recorded "It's Over Now".
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« Reply #43 on: January 22, 2008, 03:37:02 AM » |
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He sounds MUCH worse on "It's Over Now" though. I've often wondered how "far gone" Carl was when he recorded "It's Over Now".
Keep in mind though that Carl's vocal on It's Over Now was slowed down. Speed it up slightly and you have something closer to Carl's original vocal. Sounds a lot better in my opinion. I've read that Carl's voice was slowed down to sound more like Sinatra or something cause that's who Brian planned to give it to.
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« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2008, 04:08:57 AM » |
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Thats why it sounds weird,,.. also 1st track Love You.. Sounds weird also..!!
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« Reply #45 on: January 22, 2008, 11:11:16 AM » |
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Carl's vocals in that time period always sounded like ass to me, IMHO, esp.on "The Night was So Young", which to me kills a perfectly good song.
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« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2008, 11:15:50 AM » |
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like ass, huh? I don't think it was his best moments but I don't think they sounded like...'ass'. 
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« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2008, 11:43:48 AM » |
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Well, in comparison to how he normally sounded. That said, I absolutely despise his vocal in TNWSY... I picture him standing at the mic, wobbling, and finally falling over.
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« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2008, 12:15:32 PM » |
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 Thats how I picture him with 'Life is for the Living' but I still love that damn song!
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« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2008, 09:58:34 PM » |
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Life is for the Living is Carl? Man, I always thought it was Brian.
Carl's voice on It's Over Now at the correct speed is ridiculously pure and heavenly.
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