Pet Sounds in Oor's 'best albums ever' list.

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Holland's leading music magazine Oor held a survey under 100 Dutch music journalists and made a list of the 100 best albums ever. They make this list just once every 20 years. "Pet Sounds" went from number 46 in 1987 to number 8 this year. Funny how an album from 1966 is much more populair now than it was in 1987... The only other BB album on the list is Holland (#96). Surf's Up was #74 in 1987 but didn't make the list this time.

The top 10:
1 (1) The Velvet Underground & Nico - S/t
2 (-) Nirvana - Nevermind
3 (-) Radiohead - OK Computer
4 (7) The Beatles - Revolver
5 (-) The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead
6 (3) Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
7 (-) Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
8 (46) The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
9 (-) Jeff Buckley - Grace
10 (-) The Clash - London Calling

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[Shady]

Holland??? Strange choice lol

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Consider the source,  Dutch journos.  If it had been called "Netherlands," it might have rated even higher.

[Mahalo]

One day, BWPS will get that kind of recognition........it may take forty years, but yes, it will be recognized by these morons who make these dumb lists.

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One day, BWPS will get that kind of recognition........it may take forty years, but yes, it will be recognized by these morons who make these dumb lists.

Well, they published the top 10 lists of the 100 journalists. 10 People had Pet Sounds on their list and Friends, Holland and BWPS were also mentioned. That's not bad, especially if you consider that not all of these journalists write for general pop/rock magazines but that a lot of them are specialized in metal, hip hop, folk or something else. So the BB got enough recognition, I think.

And to be fair, I think that even if you'd ask the people on this board for their top 10 all-time favorite albums, a lot of them probably wouldn't have BWPS on it (I would though).

And another thing, in the same issue of that magazine there's an article about psychedelic music and there's an overview of the 12 most essential albums, and BWPS is included there.

[Goin’Bald]

If there is one music paper I will never read again, it’s this Dutch one. Not because of this, I just don’t like their choice of music they write about. If it’s a hype, then they have it, if it’s from another decade, well…they don’t bother. Brian Wilson, well I don’t know if they know who he is, I can’t recall a time they wrote about him in a positive way. I think they completely missed Smile.

And what about the 100 music journalists. If there are a 100 of those in Holland. So who voted and for what reason. Do they know their history or are they just pickin’ up what others tell them. I can’t recall that VU's album has much been talked about in the press, sold millions in Holland or whatever. So yes, it’s an odd and strange choice. I value this choice as zero, despite Pet Sounds and Revolver. Or because of only those two older albums.

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Oor has never really covered old music, they pretty much limit themselves to bands that released something recently. And I think that's OK. I sometimes get a little sick of magazines like Mojo or Q constantly digging up the same old stories that everyone already read a hundred times. Most musicians from the 60s are either dead or not making really interesting music anymore, so there's only so much that you can write about them. You can't fill every issue with new stories about Hendrix, Morrison or Lennon. And FYI: the top 100 is full of older albums. 2 from the 50s, 20 from the 60s, 31 from the 70s, 14 from the 80s, 23 from the 90s and 10 from 2000-2007.

And so what if VU never sold a million albums here? Did Pet Sounds sell a million copies in the Netherlands? If someone has VU in his all-time top 10 list, I suppose it's because he thinks it's one of the 10 best albums ever made. I don't suppose Lou Reed is paying them or anything... VU was also #1 on the list 20 years ago and it gets a five star rating everywhere (AllMusic.com, Virgin Encyclopedia of Popular Music, Rolling Stone's Album Guide etc.).

BWPS got quite some publicity when it came out, and a VERY positive review in Oor.

I know several of those 100 journalists personally (I write for a rock magazine myself) and I can assure you that none of them are the type of people who would have some kind of hidden agenda or who would care about what other people would think of their personal lists.