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« Reply #650 on: April 11, 2013, 09:15:38 AM »

No, it's a vinyl LP. I'd scan it if I actually had a working scanner!
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« Reply #651 on: April 11, 2013, 09:51:57 AM »

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GF, it always cracks me up. Some people here who say "Genius, "Post of The Week", "Awesome, "Amazing", "OMG".  They sound like school girls. They wouldn't know a good post if it slapped 'em upside the head. Take your posts for instance, GF. A lot of time and effort you put into well thought-out informative posts with meat on them, and sometimes they barely, if at all, get acknowledged. Then along comes a bullshit post (like the one I'm writing now) and watch, somebody will come along and call it "genius". For real!

Speak for yourself! I put A LOT of effort into that post. Do you think lyrics like that come easily? If so, maybe you should have a little chat with Mike Love. It takes hard work, my friend.

Honestly, you're really getting my fuel injected Stingray starting to go. If you keep it up, I'm going to get the traction and ride the clutch. When my pressure plate is burning I'm just too much.
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« Reply #652 on: April 11, 2013, 12:59:29 PM »

Side 2 would have been the same as released, except with WIBNTLA replacing the title track.

Considering the debate that caused the whole stink in the first place, I think it would've been interesting to be a fly-on-the-wall during that whole Dennis-Carl scene. Truly interesting. Smiley

I also have to say, and I know it has its detractors, but I've never really disliked Take A Load Off Your Feet. I actually find it quite charming, and I think it adds a touch of lightness and quirkiness to a pretty heavy album. Though, I respect that others see it as out of place. Had it been on LY, with Brian gruffly singing it, it probably would've been considered some sort of later day masterpiece...lol. I really like the version they did with Carl singing on the box set tour.





easy: axe DG(1957) and SDT but add 4th and WIBNTLA.
In any configuration that would've been a vastly stronger album even with Feet still on it (I like it too)
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« Reply #653 on: April 11, 2013, 01:12:57 PM »



easy: axe DG(1957) and SDT but add 4th and WIBNTLA.
In any configuration that would've been a vastly stronger album even with Feet still on it (I like it too)

Disney Girls is a better song than 4th of July.
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« Reply #654 on: April 11, 2013, 01:17:43 PM »

My album listing:

Take off Feet, I LOVE IT but it doesn't fit here...

Add 4th and WIBTLA, 4th closes side 1, side two opens with Feel Flows, ends with WIBNTLA->DITLOAT->TID->SU
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« Reply #655 on: April 11, 2013, 01:40:31 PM »

I just can't get behind SU as an album closer. Probably because the first time I heard the song was on BWPS.
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« Reply #656 on: April 11, 2013, 01:45:49 PM »

I just can't get behind SU as an album closer. Probably because the first time I heard the song was on BWPS.
It closed Movement 2 of Smile, so in a sense it is a closing type song. Having always heard it closing the SU album for 42 years, that is all it has ever been for me.
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« Reply #657 on: April 11, 2013, 02:07:48 PM »

I just can't get behind SU as an album closer. Probably because the first time I heard the song was on BWPS.
It closed Movement 2 of Smile, so in a sense it is a closing type song. Having always heard it closing the SU album for 42 years, that is all it has ever been for me.

It is a closing for movement 2 of SMiLE, but it's function as such is probably more comparable to the closing of a hypothetical Side 1 than as a finale to a complete piece. But really, it is probably just down to our first contact with the song and it's function within that context; SU in your case - BWPS in mine.
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« Reply #658 on: April 11, 2013, 02:18:42 PM »



easy: axe DG(1957) and SDT but add 4th and WIBNTLA.
In any configuration that would've been a vastly stronger album even with Feet still on it (I like it too)

Disney Girls is a better song than 4th of July.

not in my universe.
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« Reply #659 on: April 11, 2013, 02:46:42 PM »


not in my universe.

That's cool but unfortunately I live in the universe where Disney Girls was included on the 1993 box set, Best of Volume 3, TWOTS and even a greatest hits set in the U.K. so there is no way that it should have been left unreleased in 1971.
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« Reply #660 on: April 11, 2013, 05:30:54 PM »

It is a closing for movement 2 of SMiLE, but it's function as such is probably more comparable to the closing of a hypothetical Side 1 than as a finale to a complete piece. But really, it is probably just down to our first contact with the song and it's function within that context; SU in your case - BWPS in mine.

I feel like it's been said that the song probably would've closed Smile had it been completed in 1967, too.

No guarantee that the version this guy now has is unmixed, unmastered, whatever.

Capitol isn't going to pay a mastering engineer to work on a rough draft tracklisting cd that was never intended to be heard outside of their offices.  Besides, the disc says as much.  This isn't mastered.  The track was removed before the comp ever got to that stage.

Right, it's just annoying to see people basically saying "It sounds like sh*t, it wasn't even mastered! I want to hear it mastered first." etc. seemingly not understanding what "mastered" or "remastered" even really means. I'm sure whatever's on this disc sounds just fine, possibly even better than it would have on the final master of the TWOTS compilation, which honestly was a really poor, modern mastering job that doesn't suit the Beach Boys' music at all.

Still. sh*t gets paid to be mastered all the time that doesn't get released, it's simply saying it's a reference disc and should not be considered a final, cohesive product. People are treating it as if what's on this disc is surely a 5th generation rough mix from a cassette or something.
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« Reply #661 on: April 11, 2013, 05:48:37 PM »



easy: axe DG(1957) and SDT but add 4th and WIBNTLA.
In any configuration that would've been a vastly stronger album even with Feet still on it (I like it too)

Disney Girls is a better song than 4th of July.

Absolutely!  "Disney Girls" is the best song on Surf's Up that wasn't written by Brian Wilson.
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« Reply #662 on: April 12, 2013, 01:18:48 AM »

I guess it's to be assumed that Mr. beachboys_fr has the excellent East German "The Very Best of Beach Boys" from 1985?

It is a CD?

An East German CD in 1985? That'd be a find! Cheesy
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« Reply #663 on: April 12, 2013, 01:19:29 AM »



easy: axe DG(1957) and SDT but add 4th and WIBNTLA.
In any configuration that would've been a vastly stronger album even with Feet still on it (I like it too)

Disney Girls is a better song than 4th of July.

Not in my opinion either.
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« Reply #664 on: April 12, 2013, 01:39:36 AM »

No, it's a vinyl LP. I'd scan it if I actually had a working scanner!

I don't have it and it does not interest me (at least for collection purpose). I'm collecting CDs only. I acknowledge however that it is a nice item for a LP collector...
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« Reply #665 on: April 12, 2013, 03:03:37 AM »

My album listing:

Take off Feet, I LOVE IT but it doesn't fit here...

Add 4th and WIBTLA, 4th closes side 1, side two opens with Feel Flows, ends with WIBNTLA->DITLOAT->TID->SU

I love SU because it's the perfect balance of the band's soulful and playful sides. The last thing I would want is Feet replaced with ultimate dirge tune 4th of July. Am I the only one that cannot stand that track?!

Take a Load off Your Feet works as a companion to Don't Go Near The Water & Day In The Life Of  A Tree in that they're all songs with a humorous side. Granted Water and Tree might not be a laugh riot for some, but there's a humorous element to them (Reiley's cartoon haunted tree vocal for starters) - TALOYF is just much more overtly comedic.

I think SU is a near perfect expression of the 70s Beach Boys. Swap Student Demonstration Time out for Sound Of Free (or the dennis tune in question if it lives up to the hype) and you'd have perfection.
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« Reply #666 on: April 12, 2013, 03:10:48 AM »

I read the press news saying MIC is gonna be a deep cut box, but people around here seem to suggest all the hits will be included. What's the truth?
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« Reply #667 on: April 12, 2013, 03:14:54 AM »

I read the press news saying MIC is gonna be a deep cut box, but people around here seem to suggest all the hits will be included. What's the truth?

Both?

Fairly similar to the 1993 box in terms of approach I would guess. Which makes it both an appealing and unnecessary release simultaneously.  Smiley
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« Reply #668 on: April 12, 2013, 03:21:50 AM »

I read the press news saying MIC is gonna be a deep cut box, but people around here seem to suggest all the hits will be included. What's the truth?

All we know for sure is that it's 6 CDs and "career spanning".
Given that there aren't, by even the most generous estimate, six CDs' worth of unreleased songs worth releasing, we can assume that it's something like a revised version of the Good Vibrations box set. I'd guess that we'll have all the hits and a bunch of album tracks -- some of them in slightly different versions, like stereo remixes of previously mono-only tracks, or single mixes being released where only the album mix has been on CD before, no doubt -- and some unreleased material along with that.
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« Reply #669 on: April 12, 2013, 05:21:03 AM »

My album listing:

Take off Feet, I LOVE IT but it doesn't fit here...

Add 4th and WIBTLA, 4th closes side 1, side two opens with Feel Flows, ends with WIBNTLA->DITLOAT->TID->SU

I love SU because it's the perfect balance of the band's soulful and playful sides. The last thing I would want is Feet replaced with ultimate dirge tune 4th of July. Am I the only one that cannot stand that track?!

Take a Load off Your Feet works as a companion to Don't Go Near The Water & Day In The Life Of  A Tree in that they're all songs with a humorous side. Granted Water and Tree might not be a laugh riot for some, but there's a humorous element to them (Reiley's cartoon haunted tree vocal for starters) - TALOYF is just much more overtly comedic.

I think SU is a near perfect expression of the 70s Beach Boys. Swap Student Demonstration Time out for Sound Of Free (or the dennis tune in question if it lives up to the hype) and you'd have perfection.


i liked take a load off your feet in concert. in 1971 it sounded fine in concert. there are recordings of shows in 1971 where feet was played. fun little ditty live back then.
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« Reply #670 on: April 12, 2013, 05:32:06 AM »

I read the press news saying MIC is gonna be a deep cut box, but people around here seem to suggest all the hits will be included. What's the truth?

All we know for sure is that it's 6 CDs and "career spanning".
Given that there aren't, by even the most generous estimate, six CDs' worth of unreleased songs worth releasing, we can assume that it's something like a revised version of the Good Vibrations box set. I'd guess that we'll have all the hits and a bunch of album tracks -- some of them in slightly different versions, like stereo remixes of previously mono-only tracks, or single mixes being released where only the album mix has been on CD before, no doubt -- and some unreleased material along with that.

I think there might be somethign special in th works.

Remember, the 93 box was pretty groiundbreaking in its day, as was the SMile box. Standard-setting stuff this…
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« Reply #671 on: April 12, 2013, 05:36:55 AM »


not in my universe.

That's cool but unfortunately I live in the universe where Disney Girls was included on the 1993 box set, Best of Volume 3, TWOTS and even a greatest hits set in the U.K. so there is no way that it should have been left unreleased in 1971.

It certainly was released and featured on those later 'best of' releases. I'm not saying the song is bad I always felt it becomes and oddity in the context of SU as it's mood is much akin to that of Sunflower (perhaps it could've filled in a slot on that album?).
Ofc the SU album isn't that long so axing only SDT would probably do.
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« Reply #672 on: April 12, 2013, 05:38:52 AM »

I read the press news saying MIC is gonna be a deep cut box, but people around here seem to suggest all the hits will be included. What's the truth?

All we know for sure is that it's 6 CDs and "career spanning".
Given that there aren't, by even the most generous estimate, six CDs' worth of unreleased songs worth releasing, we can assume that it's something like a revised version of the Good Vibrations box set. I'd guess that we'll have all the hits and a bunch of album tracks -- some of them in slightly different versions, like stereo remixes of previously mono-only tracks, or single mixes being released where only the album mix has been on CD before, no doubt -- and some unreleased material along with that.

I think there might be somethign special in th works.

Remember, the 93 box was pretty groiundbreaking in its day, as was the SMile box. Standard-setting stuff this…

Oh, I'm absolutely sure it'll be special.
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« Reply #673 on: April 12, 2013, 07:42:31 AM »

All we know for sure is that it's 6 CDs and "career spanning".
Given that there aren't, by even the most generous estimate, six CDs' worth of unreleased songs worth releasing, we can assume that it's something like a revised version of the Good Vibrations box set. I'd guess that we'll have all the hits and a bunch of album tracks -- some of them in slightly different versions, like stereo remixes of previously mono-only tracks, or single mixes being released where only the album mix has been on CD before, no doubt -- and some unreleased material along with that.

Sounds about right to me. We'll see.
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« Reply #674 on: April 12, 2013, 08:04:13 AM »

I read the press news saying MIC is gonna be a deep cut box, but people around here seem to suggest all the hits will be included. What's the truth?

All we know for sure is that it's 6 CDs and "career spanning".
Given that there aren't, by even the most generous estimate, six CDs' worth of unreleased songs worth releasing, we can assume that it's something like a revised version of the Good Vibrations box set. I'd guess that we'll have all the hits and a bunch of album tracks -- some of them in slightly different versions, like stereo remixes of previously mono-only tracks, or single mixes being released where only the album mix has been on CD before, no doubt -- and some unreleased material along with that.

I think there might be somethign special in th works.

Remember, the 93 box was pretty groiundbreaking in its day, as was the SMile box. Standard-setting stuff this…

Groinbreaking???
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