Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again

[JaredLekites]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

[Andrew G. Doe]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

[JaredLekites]

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

I suppose I can wait for the 100th anniversary. 

[Mike's Beard]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

Any idea WTF Brother keep vetoing this stuff???!!??  Do they have some kind of adverse reaction to the notion of pleasing their hardcore fans and in the process making a buck or two?

"Hmmmmmmmmmm shall we release this 40 year Dennis Wilson masterpiece in the wake of the POB success?"

"No lets just stick out "Barbara Ann", "Fun,Fun,Fun" etc for the 53rd millionth time!  

MEMO TO BRI :  SOONER OR LATER THIS AND OTHER UNRELEASED TRACKS WILL LEAK OUT. WHEN THEY DO PEOPLE WILL HAVE NO QUALMS IN OBTAINING THEM VIA BOOTS IF YOU HAVN'T OFFICALLY RELEASED THEM!!  

[Andrew G. Doe]

Any idea WTF Brother keep vetoing this stuff???!!??  

Did I say BRI dealt the veto ?  No, I don't think I did, and for a very good reason - they didn't. BRI consists of four voting members: Brian, Mike, Alan and Carl's estate.

[Mike's Beard]

It's been a long day and I'm getting my corporate acronyms muddled up!! The point remains that the owners of this music seem content to let it gather dust on a shelf somewhere instead of sharing it with the fans.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

OK, who vetoed it AGD?

 Everybody "in the know" on this board loves to drop hints about inside info but never "talks the talk".  "David and Mike have fallen out" is another people are hinting around about alot recently.

So for all you that like to drop vague hints, put up or shut up please.

[TdHabib]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

OK, who vetoed it AGD?

 Everybody "in the know" on this board loves to drop hints about inside info but never "talks the talk".  "David and Mike have fallen out" is another people are hinting around about alot recently.

So for all you that like to drop vague hints, put up or shut up please.

Nothing personal SurfRider, but one of the things I've learned in life is that telling a large group of people something that you were told in confidence is not a good idea. IMO it's a sign of good character to keep something private...private.

That said, I do believe that the compilation WIBNTLA was vetoed from was "Warmth of the Sun"...and what did we get instead...yep "Forever" again 

[grillo]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

OK, who vetoed it AGD?

 Everybody "in the know" on this board loves to drop hints about inside info but never "talks the talk".  "David and Mike have fallen out" is another people are hinting around about alot recently.

So for all you that like to drop vague hints, put up or shut up please.

Hey man, the reason these folks have inside info is because they don't blab every last detail to random folks on a message board. I'm sure they would be happy to spill the beans if it didn't mean losing that source for future tid-bits, so you might want to pull back on the self-righteous indignation trip and think about how real people must interact with other real people, not just fans scraping around for any news on their obsession (not that I wouldn't like to know more myself!!).

[Andrew G. Doe]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

OK, who vetoed it AGD?

 Everybody "in the know" on this board loves to drop hints about inside info but never "talks the talk".  "David and Mike have fallen out" is another people are hinting around about alot recently.

So for all you that like to drop vague hints, put up or shut up please.

One, I'd hardly call saying "David & Mike have fallen out" a vague hint, more a flat statement of fact. David's wife Carrie has stated it to be so on this and other MBs, so I feel quite safe in repeating it.

As for the other stuff... can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes I hear things which I'm told I can comment on generally but not relate any specifics. I'm sure others are in the same boat, just as they are when I'm told something in strict confidence. 'Course, to keep you happy, I could spill, but then two things would happen:

1 - all my sources would vanish like ice in the sun...

2 - my reputation (such as it is) would be so low you'd need a spade to find it.

But, OK, just to please your selfish demand (others seem to have no problem, I've noticed), in future, I'll refrain from commenting on anything I can't be wholly open about... which means I probably won't be around here quite so much. Satisfied ?

[BennySahuaro]

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Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.
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Hmm...maybe. I believe that when the Beach Boys' organisation realized that they didn't have 100% of the publishing, the song was scratched.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

Hmm...maybe. I believe that when the Beach Boys' organisation realized that they didn't have 100% of the publishing, the song was scratched.
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Nope - the Surf's Up DVD-A was shelved because the format never really took off.

[Jason]

OK, who vetoed it AGD?

 Everybody "in the know" on this board loves to drop hints about inside info but never "talks the talk".  "David and Mike have fallen out" is another people are hinting around about alot recently.

So for all you that like to drop vague hints, put up or shut up please.

I know I've been beating around the bush (in more ways than one) with my vague hints, so I'll just come out and say what Brian Wilson told me. He really does have six toes on his left foot and that's why he's a genius. OK?!? SATISFIED?!?

I also heard through the grapevine that the Academy Awards are political, the government really doesn't care about you, God is dead, that Sarah Palin is an experiment in artificial stupidity, and that you complaining about people dropping hints about their inside info isn't going to make a difference to them and certainly won't convince them to share their inside info with the likes of you.

People with the inside info are people who have the ability to keep their mouths shut about it. Don't hate them because they're not gossip queens like you. And just remember that most of the inside info you so desperately want to know could in many cases color your feelings on the Beach Boys. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Let's keep it that way. It certainly hasn't done this board any harm, now has it?

[Matt H]

How close did the DVD-A come to being released?

[Jason]

The 5.1 remix was finished. Live Again was confirmed as a bonus track. Supposedly it was just waiting for pressing.

[slothrop]

People with the inside info are people who have the ability to keep their mouths shut about it. Don't hate them because they're not gossip queens like you. And just remember that most of the inside info you so desperately want to know could in many cases color your feelings on the Beach Boys. Sometimes ignorance is bliss. Let's keep it that way. It certainly hasn't done this board any harm, now has it?

If it wasn't for ignorance, this board probably wouldn't exist!

[Jason]

Michael Love popped a pimple for humanity's sins. Amen.

[TdHabib]

that Sarah Palin is an experiment in artificial stupidity

I come to a BB message board to try and escape from the real world, it's a place where I can relax and talk about one of my favorite bands and composers. Therefore I am begging you and everyone never to mention this person on this message board again. Please try and maintain dignity.

[Jason]

And I thought the "God is dead" comment was more offensive...

[Jay]

I have not heard Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again done by anybody. I'm very curios about why it seems to be the most talked about unreleased Beach Boys recording.

[Andrew G. Doe]

I have not heard Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again done by anybody. I'm very curios about why it seems to be the most talked about unreleased Beach Boys recording.

Because it is just majestically outstanding. Very possibly the best unreleased BB track there is. Seriously. Dennis at the very top of his form and vocal ability, his brothers doing some stellar bvs... just amazing.

Go here - http://www.amazon.com/Long-Promised-Road-Dennis-Wilson/dp/B000NJWTH0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1273650056&sr=1-2 - for a 30-second clip of Adam Marsland's Chaos Band's outstanding cover - lead vocal Evie Sands. Buy the CD while you're at it, it's seriously excellent.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

There's got to be some way to eek this track out there.
Couldn't Linnet/Boyd and Company crank out some sort of 50th anniversary compilation and include it?

Or is it tied up in some legal red tape?

The inclusion of "(WIBNT)LA" on a recent compilation was vetoed. No red tape, it was recorded as a BB track thus Brother hold the rights (well, right now Capitol). Had the DVD-A of Surf's Up come to pass, we'd have it by now.

OK, who vetoed it AGD?

 Everybody "in the know" on this board loves to drop hints about inside info but never "talks the talk".  "David and Mike have fallen out" is another people are hinting around about alot recently.

So for all you that like to drop vague hints, put up or shut up please.

One, I'd hardly call saying "David & Mike have fallen out" a vague hint, more a flat statement of fact. David's wife Carrie has stated it to be so on this and other MBs, so I feel quite safe in repeating it.

As for the other stuff... can't speak for anyone else, but sometimes I hear things which I'm told I can comment on generally but not relate any specifics. I'm sure others are in the same boat, just as they are when I'm told something in strict confidence. 'Course, to keep you happy, I could spill, but then two things would happen:

1 - all my sources would vanish like ice in the sun...

2 - my reputation (such as it is) would be so low you'd need a spade to find it.

But, OK, just to please your selfish demand (others seem to have no problem, I've noticed), in future, I'll refrain from commenting on anything I can't be wholly open about... which means I probably won't be around here quite so much. Satisfied ?

You always know a nerve has been struck with AGD when he threatens to pack up his wagon and walk away.  Stiff upper lip man!

This practice of "hinting" of inside info, wetting everyones' whistle but claiming confidentiality is just poor form.  Seems like more of an ego trip. "Hey, I'm a bigwhig insider.  I'm in the know but you all aren't".

Seriously, what in the world is the BIG,  CONFIDENTIAL SECRET about why this song didn't get released.  You say the BRI members didn't nix it.  So who you gonna offend by offering up the story.

As to the David/Mark thing AGD, it was hinted by ESQ that it was a "misunderstanding, now fixed".

Bottom line - sorry I offended you "Insiders".  bowing

[The Shift]

This practice of "hinting" of inside info, wetting everyones' whistle but claiming confidentiality is just poor form.  Seems like more of an ego trip. "Hey, I'm a bigwhig insider.  I'm in the know but you all aren't".

No no no... you get used to it eventually -  it used to irk me but no longer -  i just regard it as a playful tease these days and, to be honest, my life isn't any poorer for not knowing everything that AGD and others know, and I'm grateful for the occasional shared gems they send our way.

If they one day withhold information that means I can't get out of bed in a morning, that deprives my daughter of food, or that results in pools of blood on the landing, I'll be jolly upset.

But this is the world of entertainment.

Be entertained! Have fun!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Seriously, what in the world is the BIG,  CONFIDENTIAL SECRET about why this song didn't get released.  You say the BRI members didn't nix it.  So who you gonna offend by offering up the story.

Read again - I never said that. Someone said that BRI vetoed it, I just pointed out that BRI consists of four voting members. I'm not saying who laid down their veto for one of two pretty obvious reasons:

1 - I don't know

2 - I've been asked not to.

Go figure which is more likely (and I'm slightly surprised no-one has jumped to the usual conclusion in these matters - impressed, but surprised).

As to the David/Mark thing AGD, it was hinted by ESQ that it was a "misunderstanding, now fixed".

My understanding is the situation remains unresolved, but as ever I stand to be corrected. Ask Carrie, she's in and out of here.  

One thing I'd like to make crystal clear - I don't regard myself in any way as 'an insider'. To my mind that would be someone like David Leaf was: someone in the next circle out from the band. I just happen, over the course of some 35 years, to have accquired contacts (as a lot of us have), some of which have led on to other contacts slightly deeper in the labyrinth that is the World of Wilson. And so on. It just happened, wasn't my gameplan, ever. Sometimes - like now - I almost wish it hadn't. If someone wishes to label me an insider, or an expert, or eminence grise, well, that's flattering but I don't take it seriously. I'm just a fan with an inquiring nature, a stupidly retentive memory for trivia and ephemera, a burning desire to see the bands legacy documented accurately, and a laptop. That's a dangerous combination.  

[The Shift]

I guess this means you're sticking around, your eminence!