Most overrated, most underated

[Eric Aniversario]

I think that the songs mesh on Holland much better then So Tough IMO

I agree that side 2 of CATP doesn't really mesh, either.  But for whatever reason, it doesn't impact the listening experience for me like it does for Holland...

[thomasogg]

OVER-RATED: 'Love You', some nice tunes - but hey, this is the guy who wrote 'Good Vibrations' and 'Til I Die' remember? I think people, Brian included, rate it so highly out of sheer relief that it was a sign Brian could still write/produce after 15 Big Ones had so spectuarly failed to demostrate he could do either.. But compared to even the likes of 'Carl & The Passions' it's all very sub-standard. (Love 'Johnny Carson', Night Was So Young' and the melody (if not the lyrics) of 'Roller Skating Child' though..) Also 'Sunflower', though magnificent, is frustrating because it could've been so much better. No 'San Miguel'? No 'Lady'? No 'Breakaway'? But 'Tears In The Morning' makes the cut..!! What were they thinking??

UNDER-RATED: 'L.A. Light Album' has an awful reputation, but it contains at least two stone-cold classics in 'Good Timin' and 'Baby Blue', a few hidden gems such as 'Full Sail' and the utterly mad 'Shortenin' Bread'. Unfortunately that awful disco song just seems to cloud  over this however.. Also, 'WILD HONEY' is very under-rated. The songs are just great! 'Wild Honey', 'Here Comes The NIght', Country Air' - yet read David Leaf's endlessly apologetic comments in the two-fer booklet and you'd think it was about as sophicated an album as 'Surfin' Safari'. Oh yeh, and 'Holland' is a masterpiece! And 'Shut Down Volume 2' kicks ass!!

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

So Sunflower is overrated, and Shut Down 2 is underrated.

Wow.

[thomasogg]

What happened to 'people expressing there personal opinions'..? Go back and read the original message. I'm not saying Sunflower is better than Shut Down 2, obviously it isn't.. But yeh, Sunflower could've been a lot better, so to me, when people talk about it being up there with Pet Sounds, i disagree. Great album, but also a missed opportunity.. And 'Shut Down Part 2' contains: Fun fun fun, don't worry baby, in the parkin' lot, warmth of the sun, keep an eye on summer etc. It's often dismissed amongst there early albums as a rush-job, but personally i like it more than any other BB album leading up to 'Today'. It's constantly written-off, but it's got a least five or six classics on it! Urgo, yes mate, 'Shut Down 2' is underrated.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

People can't express "there" personal opinions,but they can certainly express "their" personal opinions.  Don't get so pissy, mate. I was saying "wow" because you're the one of the few people who'd put Sunflower in the overrated category. I think you'd have more people who'd agree with you putting Surf's Up in that category as opposed to Sunflower. But hey, to each his/her own.

[thomasogg]

Oh Sorry, 'their' favourite albums.. It's late at night, i'm doing a crap late shift, pardon me if my grammer isn't 100%. What a cheap shot! Anyway, as i say i like 'Sunflower' a lot. I'd put All I Wanna Do, Forever, and Slip On Through in my top 20 BB tracks if i were ever to sit down and compile a list. But i can't be arsed doing that. But if i did, they'd be there.. But as often with the BBs they left off some great tracks, and 'their' absense just annoys me. I mean, missing off 'Lady' is just plain stupid.. Some of the tracks were very cheesy, mainly Bruce's, and i think with a better line-up the album might've performed better than it. I know 'Surf's Up' is flawed in exactly the same way ('Take a Load..' in place of 4th Of July???), but as u pointed out a lot of people are gonna pick 'Surf's Up' so i thought i'd highlight that Sunflower suffers from the same problem.

[carlydenise]

overrated- Surfer Girl....I was a younger fan, so the car/surfin songs were good, but came out before my time, I appreciated and listened to their later music more.

underrated-Sunflower....every song on that album is a gem, it's a shame it didn't get the recognition that it should have.