The Alan Boyd Thread

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Rocker:
Quote from: c-man on January 27, 2006, 05:02:36 AM

Are you sure Brian's leads are doubled in these examples? (at the moment I'm just too lazy to check).  I always thought Bri's lead on "DWB" was single-tracked, and he sang a falsetto part with the group on the other track.  The stabs of lead guitar were recorded along with one of the vocal tracks, if I remember right.  And the first track has the band's basic track.  So three tracks total.  IF I remember right. 

Not sure about "WOTS".  Now, they may have done some pre-mixes to a "second generation" multi-track...they were definitely doing a lot of that by the time of the "Today!" album.

C-Man



I think Brian doubled everything vocally, starting with Surfin'USA(single) and ending with the abandoned Smile-session. I think after that he didn't double very much.

Joshilyn Hoisington:
I would say I'm 99.6547% certain Brian's double tracked on DWB.  That or somebody is singing along with him.  There're too many sloppy sibilants and not exact synchronization of initial consonants to be a single lead vocalist.

c-man:
I think "She Knows Me Too Well" is single-tracked...Brian' lead, that is..

C-Man

Joshilyn Hoisington:
Yes, it is.  Certainly a bit of a rarity for that time, but you'd think necessary as well...yet there are definitely 5 discrete sources of audio on the earlier tracks like I mentioned.  I really do wonder how this was pulled off.  Is it possible that there are two different doubles of either the lead or the backing vocals?  One done live to the final mono mix, one done live to the final stereo mix?

Alan Boyd:
Unfortunately, on some of those songs - DWB, Warmth of the Sun - the original 3 track masters and basic session tapes are long gone, and it's impossible to tell just how Brian organized those.

But for the most part, the final three track masters were NOT first generation.  Brian was doing a lot of "ping-ponging," dubbing three tracks down to two, adding another part, and then mixing those three tracks to two, and so on.  That's how a 3 track master like PLEASE LET ME WONDER will end up with a doubled lead vocal on one, doubled group vocals on two, and the mono track on three.

Sometiimes, but not always, parts would be added during the final dubdown to mono.

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